Barbados Country Assessment of Living Conditions Report: Poverty On The Rise and The Need to Protect Our Women

RIP Nicole Harrison-Watson

The death of 37 year old Nicole Harrison-Watson remains top of the mind for many Barbadians a couple days after she was found murdered at her Ferniehurst, Black Rock, St Michael home. While it does no good to speculate about what motivated her assailant (a suspect is being questioned by Police), it affords the living the opportunity to critically and dispassionately analyse the poor conditions which many Barbadians live under in Barbados and in particular our young women.

BU subscribes to the view that a woman with her unique nurturing quality was created to complement a man. When the two – man and woman – function in harmony, they are able to optimize on their mental, physical, and emotional state. The result is that the society we cohabit becomes a good place in which we can live quality lifes. The challenge of the government, NGOs and civil society at large is how do we manage to achieve the societal equilibrium required with all the competing ideologies at play.

Without fuelling the puerile debate about building a society instead of an economy, how can we pontificate about the success of the Barbados society, if according to the most recent  Barbados Country Assessment of Living Conditions Report (CALC)  “persons living below the poverty line in Barbados has double, since the last study on living conditions and poverty was undertaken over a decade ago”? Pertinent in the report is that 19.3% of Barbadian individuals in 15% of  households earn income below the poverty line – 9.1% of individuals 7% of households were living below the indigence line at the time the survey was carried out. An easy conclusion to make, anecdotally though it is, these numbers with the prevailing economic hardships must be trending upward.

A significant  percentage of individuals and households operating below the poverty line are located in government housing developments – Deacons, Pine, Silver Hill, St Matthias and other clusters known for low income habitation. Of interest to BU is that a significant of number of individuals operating below the poverty line are women and on p.110 of the report 38% recorded no level of examination passed. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to understand what this current state will breed.

The bigger point is that there is bound to be a positive correlation in the lack of social cohesion and crime in many of these depressed neighbourhoods like Deacons and the Pine and the declining economic condition. It is no secret that Deacon is overridden with drug lords whose stranglehold on the women especially is born out of the over crowding, lack of opportunity, under employment, hunger, lack of education voluminously articulated in the (CALC). How many women existing below the poverty line are abused, rape, beaten because of the infestation of a drug culture in these developments which makes those with money (usually men) the ‘bankers’ in community?

In a negative environment accepting the findings in the CALC report what happens to families if the women are victims? Without the woman how will the family survive? Of course some will get a lifeline but many will be sucked into a black hole of poverty and their generations to follow. We have to do better to protect our women to enable them to fulfil their nurturing role. No society can deem to have progressed if we are not protecting our womenfolk, if we are losing our womenfolk.

Barbadians one and all have to agitate to ensure the authorities mobilize an action plan to fight back against the scourge of poverty wrecking havoc on 19.3% of Barbadians (which equates to about 58,000 people) across Barbados. Of importance, let us protect our womenfolk,

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  1. It is not just to do with drug lords and poor areas of Barbados. It is to do with mentality. It is deemed acceptable to beat a woman in Barbados and correct more should be done to protect women in Barbados from physical abuse which now is extending to women losing their lives. The Police too should be made to take a more serious view and attend victims promptly instead of taking a view that it is not important or she probably deserved a beating. I spoke once with a Policeman in Barbados on this subject and he informed me women do not hardly report this abuse to the Police as not much is done and they fear for their lives after reporting it because nothing is done to prevent the man from going near the women and continuing to abuse her or even kill her. Harsher sanctions are needed, Injunctions with powers of arrest attached to them, records similar to that as child abuses should be implemented, jail terms. The message that needs to be sent to the men and also women because there are some women physically abusing men albeit not as much as the men is that this sort of abuse will not be tolerated and severe consequences will follow. Women are losing their lives because it is deemed okay to beat and abuse a women because they are looked upon as inferior to the man. It is abuse! Is this how Barbados want to be classified as a country that allows women to be beaten and killed. Fix up Barbados, it is not looking good.


  2. it does not matter how much money is thrown into social programs it takes continual educational programs for those who have fallen through the cracks and money and the a desire and willigness of a nation to go the long haul in hepling to reduce poverty,


  3. Poverty will al;ways be with us, but successive governments have not been doing enough to lessen or raise the level of poverty in this country. The urge to keep up with the “jones” also cause poor people to steal, shoot, and murder to get what they want. Unfortunately, our police force is not adequate to handle this situation, we need trained police officers to deal strictly with this and domestic quarrells/ fights. As a former student of that university on the hill C.P. I’m in sympathy, with her family, school friends and other friends as well as her work colleuges. Enough is enough, time that we take these matters more seriously


  4. In the same way some have been prepared to place the judiciary under the microscope the same needs to be done to government agencies like URBAN and RURAL. and the ministry responsible. It appears these agencies/ministry are not getting the job done.


  5. It is amazing how some BIG hypocrites in here who have posted and will post here on BU have previously condemned women and have blamed women for all the ills of society. Some have stated that their wives know their places and that since women have gone into the teaching service have made the male teachers leave and that has contributed to delinquency of children. Some have gone even further to say that because women have gone into the workplace that has also contributed to the lawlessness of the youth.

    There is a deep seated dislike bordering on hatred of women in this society. Women are still treated as chattel and must have a master to lead them. Women make up around 52% of our population yet we have not penetrated politically enough to one day elect a leader.

    Women have been systematically brainwashed by the church that they are the weaker sex and must have a man in charge of her morality and reproduction. Men have been also brainwashed that he is the master of women and that he is responsible for a woman’s morality and fertility.

    Mothers MUST instill in their sons that women are human beings and must be treated with respect and that they are not chattel. Mothers MUST instill in their daughters that they are not chattel to be bought and sold to the highest bidder.

    Women must STOP waiting for men to validate who they are and their worth. We must teach our girl children and our boy children that violence will lead to more violence and must put a stop to it when it rears its ugly head. WALK away and save your life and someone else’s.

    The authorities MUST take violence against women and Domestic violence very SERIOUSLY. This includes violence toward men as well.

    Women MUST be responsible for their reproductive cycle. Unprotected sex leads to unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases. Men MUST understand that when a woman says NO it is NO!


  6. If I had a hammer, i’ll hammer in the morning, hammer in the evening, all over this land,….. hammer love between my brother and my sister, oh yeah all over this land….Truth of the matter man or woman..too much hatred for each other…no real love. Men seen as the enemy ..aggressor…woman the victim..ALWAYS. Men in crisis ? What duz this mean ? Women in crisis ?
    IslandGal…Potter …ac..defensive from the word Go…by experience ?, genetic what ever….things women do to their husbands…mothers to their son…too ..can all leave bad memoirs ….results hatred between sexes passing from generation to generation….thread will now show it…bring it on !


  7. David Thompson was on the right track with those now so much repeated statement of a an economy and society being as one as cliche as it may sounds one cannot progress without the other for therin lies the heart of all societies problems and no matter how some segements of a society tries to ignore these social pitfallfs there are not going away what really is neceesary is a comprehensive education of the public in general And the truthfulness on how we all address and confront these problems


  8. AC David Thompson DEAD AND GONE he did NOTHING in his short tenure as PM of Barbados except raise the cost of living. Why don’t you stop trying to resurrect the dead and deal with the living? Happy May 1st to you!


    • This issue is really a serious one and could lead at the rate it is moving – double in the last 10 years according to CALC – in an environment which will fuel greater decline. We all can paint a picture of the problems that we know well. If we want to see where we are heading think garrison community a la Tivoli in Jamaica. An interesting stat in the report is that in the households below the poverty line 93% own TVs and 83% cellphones define as assets in the survey. Not saying there should not be entertainment but there is a mentality as a previous commenter referred which speaks to an overwhelming problem. We need to unleash forces within these communities to nurture and be punitive to slow the rot now.


  9. Island girl so what is your point or i am to conclude that if any thing said of value that is meant to have an overreaching effect in any society it therfore should be ignored or dismissed because the person is dead .if that is/so we should banned all historical writings and artifacts from those persons who are long dead where there is/truth there is value and relevancy andfrom these things we must learn and not set ourselves up for failure because of our stubborness and know it allattitude


  10. Interesting blog. Raises more questions than answers and requests a solution that is too complex for a one sentence answer. David you are right about the mentality part of it. many of us are still very much mentally enslaved, some knowingly and some unknowingly. Often times purposely so by the political, financial and religious status quo.

    Poverty shouldn’t only be counted in terms of “wealth” but also in terms of spirit and values. Therein lies the negative impact on the overall society. When selfishness, greed and corruption are the order of the day at the top and bottom levels of the society, the country becomes unwilling victim. Until the powers that be (policy makers and THE people) decide to do something visible, tangible and continual to at least send a CLEAR message that this is something we want to do something about and these are the things that we WILL not stand for, we’ll continue to spin in mud and watch as our girl children become women with no hope or spirit and our boys (maybe) become men with no sense of responsibility to others and country.

    It is not the job of a Prime Minister nor ministry, it;s the job of the right thinking responsible people who desire better to start to seek better and do better where ever better can be done.


  11. n the same way some have been prepared to place the judiciary under the microscope the same needs to be done to government agencies like URBAN and RURAL. and the ministry responsible. It appears these agencies/ministry are not getting the job done.

    What do you expect when in the name politics and PR a government rids these agencies of most of the key staff members?


  12. Islandgal246
    I believe some of your remarks are directed to me, if you have a problem with the relationship between my wife and I, I do sympathise with you, but we trust each other and enjoy each other’s company for well over 40 years.there is room for both genders but some of you seem to be bent on pulling down men, I guess a man was/is your father. a man has no right hitting a woman, in fact any man that hits a woman , in my book, is a weak person. However, women today are beating men, not only physically, but verbally, and mentally; this makes them feel like they are superior. As far as I’m concern, any person who tries to degrade another just to elevate themself is most uncomfortable with themselves, Sorry but you fit PERFECTLY into that catagory.


  13. not to forget absentee fathers who for one reason or another have neglected their resopnsiblities in the rearing and caring of their children leaving this totally up to single mothers who must survive on a week to week paycheck this also is a major contributing factor in the decline of poverty, men must step up to the plate and stop playing the blame game and lead by example. too many fatherless children helps to contribute to the breakdown of our moral fabric of our society. men knows the drill it is time to stop using woman as an excuse to avoid your responsibilty


    • @ac

      If you are familiar with the Barbados society from the time of the village you should be aware that it was the woman who was the glue that kept the family unit together. The men were mostly to be found in the rumshop or at another ‘house’. This is not to excuse the role of men of course.


  14. @ ac
    men must step up to the plate and stop playing the blame game and lead by example. too many fatherless children helps to contribute to the
    breakdown of our moral fabric of our society.
    ************************
    It was only a matter of time before you like IslGal mount the white horse GENERALIZING….placing all men in one category.Well i got news for you sweet heart..don’t let me start to tell you about what some of the women doing nowadays…. all sorta sordid and unscrupulous things to themselves (infidelity) and men.When last you see two men fighting ?……when last you see women fighting …Friday..Don’t mount …women nowadays ( not all)..vicious as hell and even more promiscuous than some men..I could go on and on about some of the things we in here hear and know..but for what, the above video clips said it all…in both cases the male in the end got the shitty end of the stick..which from what was (limited) portrayed .. and was unjustly unfaired…so lid it gf


  15. David but my thrust is not how we started but where we are going and the impact that absentee fathers leave on a society for generations to come . this too is generational as so aptly pointed out in your response as we are now seeing the devastating paths which were left behind by those fathers who had spent more time in “rum shops than doing their fatherly duties in t turn what we have now are sons who have adapted an attitude of total abandonment of their children


    • @ac

      Maybe you are correct, it is a perplexing issue and needs a multifaceted approach.


  16. @ Onions!

    Oh! dear bf we are discussing POVERTY and some of the root Causes of it. Woman behaving in a salacious manner does not cause poverty in families . However i beg bf please don’t beat up on me.


  17. “A white sport coat …and a cream carnation…I’m all dressed up for the dance…” (Onions singing and cutting the rug, with an imaginary doll in arms)..lol


  18. yuh see what i mean! you are a perfect example of a gentleman. thats what women like maybe Bush tea can take a chapter a verse or two out of your book instead of rehashing Proverbs.
    Anyhow the women that you spoke of in your comment are suffering from very low esteem and in need of wanted attention and usually their audience which is mostly made up of men who reward them with empty promises to no where. THese women need to be educated in finding a way forward to a meaningful future and the men should stop patronising them but we know that will never happen


  19. I’m seeing very often especially on morning and afternoon, fathers taking their you children to and from school or nursery. I know of many fathers who raised his children, both boys and girls, on his own. It is time women stop trying to behave as victims to all men. Yes, we hear of more man to woman beatings, but there are much woman to man beating too, just that men don’t shout and scream like the women. In a nutshell, neither gender made the other, so neither should be trying to dominate the sexes; they both have their individual roles to perform


    • @The Scout

      To remind you we are discussing a segment of our population who are trapped in a cycle of poverty and the concomitant issues which result.


  20. Yes scout we have all heard the stories which you have mentioned but what we are discussing are the undelying causes of poverty and what role does absentee fathers attributed to it.


  21. What are you saying David …that ac, Scout’s (and mine) inclusion of the current state of relationships between men and women bear no relevance to this thread ? Well I hope not . The topic points to the protection of women and pic of the late Ms.Harrison-Watson (sincere condolences to the bereaved)…..opening the door for our slant of discussion.
    Until we can have some understanding between the two….women and men will continue to see each other at different ends of the spectrum.One giving ..the other looking to be given..speaking of financial support. Are you aware that a gentleman raising his own son or daughter is unable to have a child support order issued in the Lower Court…since there is no provision at this level to entertain his request ?. however a female can. Laws need to be changed more in line to what Scout was speaking of….fathers solely looking after their offspring ….a very common occurrence nowadays. Notwithstanding, women are being paid (in some cases)..more than their men…..How times have changed …we must bring to the table all these new variables in any discussion of alleviating poverty in the household.


    • @Onions

      This is about how a cycle of poverty if allowed to take root is likely to affect the social dynamics in Barbados. It is a bigger issue to where you want to take it.


    • To reiterate the CALC – scientific analysis – has revealed an escalating level of poverty in our ‘slum’ districts. BU again posits that our womenfolk have been made very vulnerable in prevailing environment. Women are raped, beaten and otherwise victimized because of their dependence on men for their survival. The problem is dominant if compared to men in the same dataset. They suffer this mostly in silence. It is a problem we need to fix given the importance of a woman in the family matrix. It is not to say that men are not affected. The analysis is there and generalization is not going to help.


  22. so who is resonsible for the financial care of the child must be a point that laws take literally so that even when the men assumes full time responsibilty of the child the law does not automatically change As a reward for what he is bound by law to do in the first place.. you might call it favouritism for woman however if the man is supposed to be head of household his responsibilty fiancially remains as is wether he has custody of the child or the woman.


  23. @ David
    This is about how a cycle of poverty if allowed to take root is likely to affect the social dynamics in Barbados. It is a bigger issue to where you want to
    take it.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where I want to take it ? Tell me where I want to take it ? The name of the article leaves open more than one facet to the root , it speaks also to protection of women (not men)…I guess we men should just hush while people like ac highlight how all we delinquent men are always the cause right ?..You position is nothing but silent policeman to some men…..a danger to those unaware….What is it with you lately anyway ?…What ever became of letting the blogger make hisher point ? Who the dog likes she licks…who she don’t he bites …..


  24. Onions

    Just make your point and forget the blustering. You have not been prevented from making your point. Be assured BU will voice ours.


  25. @ david
    Similarly Scout made a point……The Scout | May 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM |

    “I know of many fathers who raised his children, both boys and girls, on his own. It is time women stop trying to behave as victims to all men. Yes, we
    hear of more man to woman beatings, but there are much woman to man beating too, just that men don’t shout and scream like the women.”

    and your response……………

    “To remind you we are discussing a segment of our population who are trapped in a cycle of poverty and the concomitant issues which result.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++
    So what , MAY I ASK.?..Is Scout ( like myself)……”blustering”…or needs be ….a BU redirecting to point ? But ac ….is spot on……right ?..

    “so who is resonsible for the financial care of the child must be a point that laws take literally so that even when the men assumes full time
    responsibility of the child the law does not automatically change As a reward for what he is bound by law to do in the first place.. you might call it favouritism for woman however if the man is supposed to be head of household”

    MAN U FULL OF IT!


  26. However onions surely you cannot overlooked the fact that sigle households shoulder in part by mothers is a real cause of concerns and in part a cause of poverty and most of the blame should be put squarely on THOSE FATHERS who neglect their parental duties which also becomes a burden for govt and taxpayers to resolve.Now how can one overlook such a factor as to one of the real causes leading to poverty a single income household is doomed to financial failure which plunges that household into poverty.


  27. Oh ONIONS are you one of those who don’t scream and shout? Well wunna menz dat does get beat wunna got to scream and shout to be heard!


  28. single income household is doomed to financial failure which plunges that household into poverty.

    AC I am with you pon dat!


  29. The ratio to women as head of household is astronomical when compared to men and the cases brought against men who neglect child support are much greater than thosebrought against women. the govt is now tring to give some financial relief to women because of men failure to support their children even when the court demands them to do so.


  30. @ ac
    However onions surely you cannot overlooked the fact that sigle households shoulder in part by mothers is a real cause of concerns and in
    part a cause of poverty and most of the blame should be put squarely on THOSE FATHERS who neglect their parental duties which also becomes a burden for govt
    *******************************
    Look that may apply to some cases…my point… NOT ALL…today is a different day (read Scout)….I have been in the Court yard and lucky enough to see a “impoverish” mother ..dawned her expensive treads and place them in her SUV….proceeded to put on tattered rags..scruff up the braids..finally looking like the epithet she wanted to portray, before going before Magistrate Benn….With tears in eyes, she proceeded to relate, how the money ain’t enough ..how she getting unfaired…by a father who came by bus. Benn revised the Order with threats of imprisonment for non payment…TRUE as I here this morning…The sweet part was ..on getting the revised order..she proceeded to inform …us in the Court Yard ..that she now on the way to St .Mathias court …for a repeat
    performance.
    Tell do you think a man would be able to pull that off / Or even get an Order in the first place ?
    Some of us need to get a grip of what is going on at that level…and not pick noses from high places.


  31. LOL
    Onions you like you eat some old peppers this morning…
    Yuh very uptight bout this topic…. Wuh happen boxie?
    ..nuh poetry today?
    LOL


  32. .”I have been in the Court yard and lucky enough to see a “impoverish” mother .”

    Onions what were yuh doing dey? Yuh like yuh get call up too!


  33. @ Bushie
    Nah man…these women about playing Lone Ranger and Tonto…like he wants to tag along …..That incident happen bout 15 yrs ago in Oistins when Onions get hold for speeding…..TRUE TRUE..think dem sweet ?
    Bushie …D woman did look good 2 ya….but after that performance …not wid a 10ft pole…


  34. For all the witches……we kno who they are..

    Scale of dragon; tooth of wolf;
    Witches’ mummy; maw and gulf
    Of the ravin’d salt-sea shark;
    Root of hemlock digg’d i the dark;
    Liver of blaspheming Jew;
    Gall of goat, and slips of yew
    Finger of birth-strangled babe


  35. LOLLLL…..Whooooo

    Lawd Harry Potter’s school mate is trying to make a master brew. Go long back to Hogwart’s school of witchcraft for the correct recipe!


  36. Agra Cadabra Pooof! Onions you are now a slimy python with the letters BLP engraved on your back!


  37. @onions and the scenario you painted of that woman is daunting beacause it shows what women hAve to go through in oder to collect their child support..inany event if the women is self supporting she is entitled to buy whatever needs she wants that does not justify a man not supporting his children


  38. What about women getting children, for the child money….having 6-8 men.in Court…. and spending most of that money on themselves ?


  39. and what about men who if the female makes more money than them think that it is the female who should take on most of the financial burden of the children and used that as an excuse for not supporting the children.

    @ onions

    yuh know i have heard all the same excuses men make not to support their children and high up on the list is the one you mention . but if the man has proof by records that the money giving is not being used to support the children he can always seek relief from the court and ask for custody of the children but however i suspect that he is not going to do so because of the burdensome tasks it takes in rearing a child not to mention the freedoms one has to give up and very few men are willing to give much of anything!


  40. David what you said is absolutely true but again men prefer to wear blinders and act like it is all the woman fault. until men stop seeing women as sexual objects to be used and abused and discarded this problem would continue to exist. however i am hoping that the abused mothers of today would have learned a lesson and emphasis emphatically to their children the importance of having a good education and in so doing it can help to curve this generational cycle of abuse in the household . yes there are good men out there but not enough to fight this cause because most of the time these good hearted men are looked down upon by other men and because they don’t want to frowned upon by other men they remain quiet . therfore it is up to women who have been victimised to keep sounding the alarm and let abusive men know that enough is enough .


  41. I feel your pain……..it goes back to my opening remarks….Mars and Venus..who gives…who believes should be receiving regardless….the solution…to get both to realize..they both should equally contribute. But we know that is easier said than done…What is a surety is that on attending men discussion forums….not one parenting father went after a mother with “the parenting RIGHT to be paid for the job…do you know why….? They view it differently….my offspring…and not a God given RIGHT to get My support .Enough said.


    • @ac

      Indeed, the findings of the CALC report should be very disturbing to all. Can you imagine the offspring of that 40% of women who have not gained any examination passes and juxtapose it to the fact many will have absentee fathers? The vulnerability of the woman in this situation is scary.

      It is a simple point which Onions is not grasping for what ever reason.


  42. Sign of the changing times (expectations).
    A murder suicide in Antigua….wife stabs her husband….thereafter drinks poison and die…..TWIST…not what (roles) we are accustomed…


  43. David
    It is a simple point which Onions is not grasping for what ever reason.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Wish you would stop dogging Onions…..no sweat , I have grown accustom.
    Why can’t you accept…we have slightly different views….?


    • @Onions

      People engage on BU so get use to it. If you drop an opinion expect to be challenged sometimes Ok?


  44. @BU.David: “People engage on BU so get use to it. If you drop an opinion expect to be challenged sometimes Ok?

    This is why the “cool kids” hang out here….


  45. @ onions

    and you know why woman react in such a way is because most of the time these absentee fathers make promise after promise then the woman gives up and lashes out at all men. but you know something it also does great harm to children because of the woman’s anger towards the man for what he has done the children especially the girls builds up a resentment which they too carry on into adulthood rendering them helpless in maintaining a good relationship and the boys not seeing a father around they too take what they have seen their mother ability to take care of them and relieves it in their relationship with woman so there we have a vicious cycle of hopelessness and a lost generation of broken relationships and broken families, that is why i emphasis that the burden is simply up to the male in helping to discard the victimization of their families and be the man that they were designed to be to help strengthen and renew a spirit of being wanted and appreciated by their household, Woman do what we do best and that is to fight but when all is said and done they will put their family first and men can be included.


  46. @ac: “Woman do what we do best and that is to fight but when all is said and done they will put their family first and men can be included.

    Let us please be honest.

    What only human women can do is birth other humans.

    Everything else falls out of that.

    No joke intended.


  47. There is arole for the man and the woman in the raising of a child. In many, too many cases, the woman wants to play both roles and only wants the man to bring the money. I’ve heard of many cases where the man supports the child whether through the court system or privately, but everytime he goes to see the child, he/she is never at home, gone by a aunt, uncle, grandmother. Until both parents realise they have a responsibilty to this child, ther will always be a problem, and both women and men will suffer for raising this child singlehandedly.


  48. @The Scout: “I’ve heard of many cases where the man supports the child whether through the court system or privately, but everytime he goes to see the child, he/she is never at home, gone by a aunt, uncle, grandmother.

    Such data is subjective, and would be rejected by any honest study.

    Do you have any hard data to submit?


  49. Onions
    There is a new breed of woman in Barbados, CAREER WOMEN, who only needs a man to empregnant them, then he can do to HELL. These children come up not knowing who their father is and is mummy’s baby. It is children like this who lashes out and don’t know how to treat a woman because he never had a man to teach him things that women can’t teach them. In many cases these mothers uphold their unruly boys/men, even though they know they are wrong. They usually end up spending thousands of dollars trying to get them out of the arms of the police. These children are rebelling because of the lack of male guidance, no fault of the father.


  50. @The Scout: “These children are rebelling because of the lack of male guidance, no fault of the father.

    Have you considered this might be because of other influences?


  51. @ Scout

    Stereo -typing of woman is not the answer. they are real problems that need to be addressed such as abuse of woman which leads to a downward spiral in the stability of families and a childs well being which men have forfeited for a myriad of reasons . the route which men have chosen to addressed the issue has only stifle and made these problems harder to be resolve but has cause division between both male and female , now it is time that all men man up and say that what they have done in the stagnation of their children and relationship is wrong and a new approach and direction is needed.


  52. @ Scout
    Hear, Hear…..You think I minding Lone Ranger ac, and Tonto..?…We my brothers live in the real world…..some of these women ….” only want the seed..” I have heard this with my very own ears…Some these evil ladies..want to live by themselves…with as many men and women they could …they want independence from any man ( but that is their prerogative)…..child but a meal ticket, SUV ticket, clothes ticket…..Yo Scout,.. like you Onions live in the real world…..ac enjoys her schizophrenic role ….When the bell rings …I can see her walking but with a STRONG conviction…of every single twisted view she has put fwd on this blog….
    (bet ac divorced, and born September October )…lol


  53. @ ONIONS

    LOL! another male tactic. women scorned ! divorced! but the month is a new twist how about the Sign.


  54. @OOB: “Girl you cud laugh but we men duz got to put up with dis shit.

    That’s the fundamental problem, isn’t it.

    The girls laugh.

    The boys don’t.

    Who’s having the more fun?


  55. ac
    I’m not saying some men are like angels, but neither are some women, both genders MUST carry some of the blame. However it is this socalled INDEPENDENCE women now project that is causing a big rift between men and women. Thank God there are still many levelheaded men and women out there who are not getting the roles of the two genders criscrossed. You can always tell the ones who thinks they are superior, they write their name Ms Whoever. To me that indicates Man Sometimes. Even them don’t know who or what they are. Many of these women are catching their ROYAL, but try to impress that they are somebody. Some of them need to come back into the REAL WORLD and help improve the standard of living in this country, instead of playing BIGSHOT and flying into MIAMI or PUERTO RICO to buy a dress to wear to a function, while neglecting going to the supermarket to purchase food, just to keep up with the JONES. Can you blame a man for that?


  56. @ Scout
    most woman did not choose to be in dependant but were forced and for several different reason some of which were financial and lack of support from their partners. most women would tell you they hate the rat race of having to work two or three jobs and put up with all the stress that goes along with it, but would rather prefer a committed and fulfilling a relationship however when they chips are down they would do what they have to do to maintain their home and a comfortable lifestyle over a “sorry ass good fuh nutting man who does nothing for them.


  57. Talking about Mrs.So n So……Onions reliably informed that the bassa bassa up at NCF by two strong head women had to come to a front sometime….They say the two could not gree from Day 1..Well ya dun kno….Ole time entrenched strong party connections duz hold more play than PhD-ship with a pinch of uncle salt…Talk bout WOMEN….power hungry…ac where do you fit in the sort of things ?….grandad a stalwart or what ?


  58. why am i not surprised that the MEN have not shown any support for abused woman on this blog while others have remained silent /it has been painful reading some of the comments and the way woman are being protrayed.


  59. @ ac ..Because
    Women want to eat their cake and have it too…..based on all said ..I know you could figure it out…What I would ask (in contrary) is how come women could be such a hard nose knaving DOBitch..yet fall back to being ..the sweet innocent beings of the past …wanting compassion of..”support for us abused women”…things have changed babies…..Women wanted no diff between men n women…now you got it… please ask us men for no sulking quarters


  60. Ladies when you finish with a man, first thing change all the locks on your doors. And in general be very careful who has keys to your house. If the person does not live there they should not have a key. When visitors come let them stand at the door and knock and wait to be invited in.

    And a message to NHC: Write it into the leases that only adults who are listed on the lease, and the children of those adults can have keys. And then ENFORCE, ENFORCE, ENFORCE. That means no keys for boyfriends, ex boyfriends, non-resident husbands or ex-husbands etc.


  61. And men you can’t own a woman. Massa day dun de’d. If the woman doesn’t like you anymore

    Walk.

    Fast


  62. And everybody:

    It is NEVER right to hit.

    Never right to hit a woman.

    Never right to hit a man.

    Never right to hit a child.

    We all have to stop hitting our children, our girlfriends and wives, our boyfriends and husbands.

    Because massa day dun’ de’d and this hitting, licking, beating, and brutality that we brought forward from slavery has to be thrown away.


  63. And everybody when you see something bad happening say something, do something.

    Don’t pretend that if you act like it isn’t happening it will go away.

    It will not go away.

    It will get worse, and worse, and worse like a life sore.

    Do something.


  64. And the authorities, you have to take reports of spankings, beatings, slappings, burnings, kickings seriously.

    I guarantee you that this is not the first act of violence that Nicole has endured. I bet that she was licked at home and at school as a child. I bet that this is not the first time this man hit her.

    Long ago way back in the 1960’s the Alexandra school did not lick any of the students for anything and the school turned our fine women.

    Who reintroduced licks to the Alexandra school?

    Is it you?

    You should be ashamed of yourself.


  65. And men, talk to your sons.

    Love your sons.

    Support them.

    Don’t engage in this ignorant pretense that if you give some money and see them every other weekend that you are being a good father. You are NOT being a good father.

    And bad, neglectful fathers raise bad, neglectful, angry or violent sons.

    And stop this nonsense of separating children form their mothers. What is the matter with you that you can’t be a loving step-father to the children of those women who are already mothers?

    What is the matter with you?

    If you don’t like women with children, then WALK and find a childless woman. There are billions of them around.


  66. When last did a Bajan woman kill her boyfriend or husband?

    Being a Bajan boyfriend or husband is to be in a very safe place.


  67. Quoting old onions May 1 at 7:38 a.m. “Are you aware that a gentleman raising his own son or daughter is unable to have a child support order issued in the Lower Court…since there is no provision at this level to entertain his request ?. however a female can. Laws need to be changed”

    I agree.

    Get your male buddies who occupy 90% of the seats in the house to work on it TODAY.


  68. what you guys seem to be avoiding is the missing link which contributes to poverty that being of absentee fathers one that should be of real concern and should be adressed .


  69. @Scout

    I am notsaying that there are no built in problems in any relationship with or without children. However some of these problems should not be used as an excuse to make the children suffer. also you mention 50 /50 partnersship however when one parent is absent that in itself becomes a bone of contention by the one who is absent by way of admitting that all other responsibilty other than taking financial care of the children becomes void and the rest should be taken care by the one with custody . which begs the questions do men really understand their responsibilties and duty and care to their children inrespect to all the blame they have cast on women who stays for the long haul wether men give them any kind of help or not.


  70. Random thoughts…Glad to read your contributions.

    AC….You are on a roll keep it up.

    To all the career women HATERS….it is because of insecurity and inferiority you HATE successful women. Women have become successful and have managed to juggle well and effectively. If you really look at the ratio of successful women and unsuccessful men you will see that more and more women are ahead. By successful I mean who own their own homes and cars, who are bringing up children on their own. Many of these children are well behaved and well adjusted children so I don’t know where you all get this idea that the successful women have lawless children. That is a myth. Look at the socioeconomic background of many of the incarcerated youth. Many if not most of them come from depressed neighbourhoods where their mothers have to scrunt to get a dollar or do not work at all. The only thing these women have in common with successful women is that they are single parents. Women must educate themselves and to strive to make a better life for themselves before they embark on having children. That does not always work out that way BUT start the thought process from school. Women MUST learn to choose their men very carefully, and learn to steer clear of the garbage that crowd our streets. It is better to be alone and unhappy than to be with someone and unhappy. A woman MUST NOT depend on someone else for her happiness.


  71. Maybe some of us have not fully understood what was put fwd by Scout and yours truly….that a lot of these career women…though they want no male around… want the male’s child ..for the money… By not having the male role model around….raises a problem child ..if a son.. @ loss for role father..if daughter …wants to copy the misfit mother…catch 22 all over again.Let’s face it ac ..it’s not the father not giving money to support the family in all cases…but a selfish self opinionated DOB..who cares a rat’s ass about society or its problems(as long as she gets what she wants)….and would sit there …brooding like a cat…..about “those men are the problem”… and not willing to move a wink from that stance ,,,even if seen the light..It is this type of individual…that a man will avoid..and or seperate from…. for fear that the spirit of God may not always dwell in man.
    You see as long as these new wanna be independents…want to enforce their wonderful new creme le creme rules……we got problems… for not all men get on their knees like puppies………but entrenched fighters like pitbulls to the end.There lies our violence problem.


  72. @IsGal
    That is a myth. Look at the socioeconomic background of many of the incarcerated youth. Many if not most of them come from depressed neighbourhoods where their mothers have to scrunt to make a living
    ****************
    Really now…..did you watch CBC 7.00PM news last night?


  73. The only ones seems to be brooding is onions and scout and when it comes right down to it like most men they feel threatened by the womans independence and there lost of control of a womans/actions


  74. It is all about POWER itmust be hard formen to lose can you imagine the russick which men caused when womAn were giving the RIGHT TO VOTE the same accusary accusations were heaped on woman . then imagine when woman learend to drive i could only imAgine the debate of “too much freedom ” women have heard it all and nothing has stop us in our desire to fight for our RIGHTS


  75. Look umman doan B a pantii…lose power when a woman gone. ?..You a moojan…remember the days of Harry’s on Bay st …or you too young ?


  76. @ ac
    The amount of ladies of the night have quadrupled in recent months……are we saying according to this article ….its the fault of stingy and they should be blamed ?
    If we pass by Bush Hill nowadays at 10.30…..lower Bay St. as well there by the Family Planning….the ladies are doing a brisker than ever trade….
    How do we assume these things ? Are they the results of the impoverished female left to support alone her kin ? Or is this the results of a fractured and over taxed and disenfranchised people in a society and not an economy ? Tell me acIslandGal which one is it ?


  77. @ onions

    there is an article which might enlighten your mixed up and confuse brain on the plight of the single woman and its effect on poverty
    you can google
    http://www.the grio.com/sin
    http://www.the grio.com/…/single-mothers-need=pathway=out-of-poverty


  78. @ onions typical male mentality always lurking behind the bushes for unsuspecting ladies of the night. man yuh too ole fuh dat behave yuhself nuh yuh time has come and gone not enuff viagra to save the day fuh you.keep dat up yuh soon hav a heart attack


    • Had hoped when this blog was posted we could share about how the number below the poverty line has double and the implications for wider society. Particularly the impact on young uneducated women who have to be the mother/father of families. What does it portend for Barbados? We know that women caught in this vicious cycle of poverty become vulnerable. There must be long term implications right?


  79. You are so wrong…….Onions.got to feed the BEAST….when she hungers…her name is python and she no friend of Lady Viagra..nor Cialias.
    The only bushes she is accustomed to are the airy’ bushes. Besides in case you didn’t know ….Onions is but a Spring Buck…and shall not see retirement till another 15-20 yrs of sowing the needed seed …lol


  80. Wait onions de only seed you be planting is de ones dat yuh might be planting in yuh backyard. .

    Anyhow as for planting too many men plant seed and never look back to see how they grow then one day that sprout becomes a giant and all of a sudden the planter decides that he was the rightful owner of the seed you see the seed he never took care of is now some thing worthwhile and the planter sees that owership is all worthwhile.


  81. @ David
    What you had hoped for was an exercise in being a statistical suggester and not in pursuit of reality.You, like others, had hoped that the sad state of things hinged to the backs of poor disenfranchised young men. What was put fwd was actual experiences of the mostly down trodden…often wrongly blame…conveniently called to be in crisis…. (sometimes rightly so)… of being kicked to the curb by an outdated judicial system. Those left behind( womenchildren) can only see the end result >..”.it is because of men impregnating us… that this is our ordeal…. AND NOT …”it is the system….whereby we being the disenfranchised, and poor…. will always be so… the global way of things … ever since the days of the Bible..we constantly subjected to measures (LIME) to enable us to remain poor to enable the rich to be rich “. Our men… fight they must… also en roped.


  82. Yes the long term ramifcations Are devasting survey after survey has shown that mothers as head of household and families are most likely to end up in poverty not only ecomomic but social as well which includes a high crime rate because of lack of education early mortality because of lack of health care mothers try their best to confront these challenges but it is not sufficient without the much needed help of both parents.


  83. Yes ac..but why we keep butting heads …surprises me ? You keep hitting on the same point. But its not totally the men at fault….Have ever heard of a situation where a man will leave his home and children…and will go to another and support someone else’s children ? Have you ever stopped to ask why ? Certainly, he is not mad…then why the move.?….we know but I leave you to write the answer…. That man in the right peaceful conditions will remain there and maybe increase the family…I think you see my point…he is not a dog…but he does not want to spend the rest of his days up Dodds either…so he does the next best thing…he moves on …HE SHOULD SUPPORT HIS OWN,,,but you know what …he cannot support BOTH…He may also be spiting his last spouse (and indirectly his children)…but you know what …..he is hurt and want to hurt back..not thinking right, he seeks to etch out his own existence as logically as he could in his own demented way. But this is life …it goes on….less than perfect..only if things were different…but they aren’t


  84. @onions

    let me ask you .taking your scenario into account what if woman took the same attitude as the men in seeking resolution . what would you say. man look there is no excuse for a man not supporting any child that he has . if he can take care of another woman he can take take care of the rest . why be so vindictive to the point where it hurts your flesh and blood.


  85. Why you don’t admit…what we would like and what is ….especially on this issue….is two diff tings…nothing go change…the poor are placed there to struggle by the proletariat..its the systems way of things…we came n found it..will die n leave it…


    • Why you don’t admit…what we would like and what is ….especially on this issue….is two diff tings…nothing go change…the poor are placed there to struggle by the proletariat..its the systems way of things…we came n found it..will die n leave it…

      One wonders why the BP created Poverty alleviation initiatives.

      One wonders why the Ministry of Transformation was created.


  86. yes the poor would always be with . but when there is a sector of the poor who through no circumstances of their own was abandon at birth or afterwards the story takes on a different meaning.


  87. FRONT #1…….all ya better try something….look nuff people down here at welfare…try a do something ya…..how much duz really go into thru PA ?

    FRONT# 2…Hammie La…..nah boi he is D man….ya want a ackee tree cut down call H…you wanna bring Movado..try he…Min of Transfomer S…jobs for admin workers….more votes all rund..worthy ..but poor people moving a catch 22. Pine votes lock DEn.


  88. i have come to the conclusion a man would never admit when he is wrong and this Topic of Poverty and the role Absentee fathers play in this downwardspiral of poverty in single woman household is a perfect example. all the statics would never change their mind as long as they see the woman as the problem


  89. Ok. Miracle worker ac OVER TO YOU NOW ..!…..wave your mighty wand….put money in the broke Asp papa’s pocket….so he cud give the mother child money..If the father ain’t working…get him a job…make sure the money is enuff to support two families too..now don’t forget…and if he has 4 children make sure he gets about $800 per week after deductions….that’s for about 30,000 or so unskilled papas..don’t forget..


  90. @ac
    I COPIED you submission from The UNIONS thread,,,,

    ac | May 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM |
    only in small caribbean islands would these corrupt corporate giants take advantage of poor people. In the first place these outrageous over due back wages should not have gone on so long so one can blame the unions too for not flexing their muscles earlier and standing up for the workers. i mean Corporate Giants like Lime got this attitude that it is them who are doing the favours and the workers should put up or shut and the Unions let this shite go by until it is too late .

    I SEE YOU HAVE FINALLY SEEN THE LIGHT…..then I know my 67 submissions on this article was worth it !


  91. Let the truth be know….Marshall..ac

    For ’tis the sport to have the enginer
    Hoist with his own petard, an’t shall go hard
    But I will delve one yard below their mines
    And blow them at the moon.

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