@passing thru
You said the Bees will pay for underestimating Stuart . I wonder who Sturat willl pay for undersetimating the electorate? Stuart ‘s behaviour and lack of good political savvy will be his own undoing and no Dem can undo what Stuart has so effectively done in the eyes and minds of the people . Is this to Barney;s benefit? The people in the South are saying no to Fumble.

So far in this thread the question is should we say no to REDjet and the answer has been a perasonal attack on Lynch, the most successful Minister of Toorism there has been in Barbados. You dont change fhat by attawcking the person. Should we subsidise Redjet. Answer the question. I dont have all the answers but I think there should be point and counter point…Some peole seem to thionk that invective is the way to argue , . Well I dont know who that influences ecept the dull and the ignorant ,But i exxpect logic, figures and a cogent response to the information. For the record in the CWC the failure of Barbados was not about misplaced or misled priorities but simply because India dn Pakistan teams were knocked out early in the World Cup and the people from the Asian continent did not bother to come . Check the faces . Thionk on these things.

@ ac
The chance of plenty Indians coming to see India in the World Cup final was far, far greater than Brazilians coming to Barbados to kite surf, surf or tan. How much has the BTA spent so far on GOL?

I shall say it again. The change of use of agriculture land to other uses is nothing new and is expected given the small land space known as Barbados, the need to maintain our standard of living and the quest for everyone to ‘own piece of the rock’.
I find it comical that supporters of the DLP are finding fault with OSA’s statement when the biggest and most publicised sod turning event by the late PM was at a whole PLANTATION. What about Foul Bay?

Why pump money into Red Jet when we are badly in need of a Ferry service.

@ David
They do for cricket though and at the time of the World Cup had money to spend, and that’s the point.

@David .. Indians are not good tourist ? oh really ..
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-06/india/31126478_1_indian-tourist-german-tourist-british-tourists

@true to form
[Lynch, the most successful Minister of Toorism]

You killing me ttf with your fruedian slip, Lynch was successful at Too-much shit. The man arrogant and corrupt. Ask George Payne who he turn into a cartoon when he announce he came to take the Pain out of tourism. He insult the country by refusing to sit in same room as respected citizen and hotelier Loveridge. His list of infelicities is endless. Tourism held its own in spite of Lynch not because of.

@enuff- Brazil is a BRIC country one of the richest and fastest growing economies 4 hours from Barbados with 200 million people rapidly improving their standard of living? You must be on ecstacy to compare India with Brazil as a tourist market for BARBADOS.

@true to form

It seems you are the running from the facts. How did Lynch diversify the tourism product? For his tenure our dependence never changed from UK, US and Canada. What about Heritage? We never attracted brand names to our market and this was in the good times. Let us debate the issues indeed.

True to form,

Just remind us which brand names he brought to Barbados. Hilton and Fairmont were here before him and Marriott was added after he left office.
34 hotels lost over the last 20 years’ but more rooms added!
You really have to explain that to us.

David,

Heritage tourism was pushed for one. Investors then were going to luxury condos. Brand name hotels are difficult to attract in Barbados. The cost of doing business is a big deterrent and you all know that too.

I understand that an announcement is to be made soon on investing in Redjet. (Should have been today, dont know if the man with the sore nipples is back yet). But should not government come to us and tell us where this money is coming from?

Justin Robinson, are you going to sit there on the NIS board just to be called chairman and allow this inept government to raid our NIS funds? I know your navel sting aint bury ’bout here but have pity on us whose are. Have some balls and stand up to this government. Enough is enough.

@enuff

The villa sector is diversification but you still must contextualize it.What is the mix we want to guarantee forex/employment levels etc.

@islandgal

We need to hear what form government support will take. It is possible government may waive airport fees etc and support will not be cash.

@ David

“Recent commentary clearly confirms that many of our hotels are over leverage, labouring with fatigue plant and cost of delivering is high…this did not happen overnight.”

I am borrowing your argument:The costs are high because we have higher taxes to support social programmes that the other islands don’t have.

Here we go again.

I absolutely hate this son of a bitch, Arrogant pompous crook who think bajans forget his reign of black supremacy. Imagine if Barbados really use to provide justice for one and all where this cloak and dagger would be today. This is one man who will not get my vote in million years….

True to Form

The Barbados Labour Party took over a government and an economy from the Democratic Labour Party back in the day that was considered to be in crisis. Their fourteen years of reign took Barbados through the best and probably the worst of times. Owen Arthur and his ministers did yeoman service to their country men and their country. Yet for all their greatness it did not take away from the fact that many hold this “outstanding” party to be responsible for the biggest controversies and corruption scandals to hit this island in many a millenia. What sense it is that Noel Lynch was an outstanding tourism minister yet to be branded as a highly controversial figure with hint of boaster to his name.

The BLP had the biggest opportuunity to show Barbados and the world what makes them such a robust and intellecutally indept party when the late Prime Minister asked Owen and his group: let us put our heads together in a show of solidarity to assist Barbados in their darkest economic hour. But what did Owen do, put his biases and personal agenda first before his loyalty to the people. Owen said you are the government you fix it. What if Owen had assisted; what you think would have happened. He Owen would have been immortalised and his Barbados Labour Party would have regain so much of their lost honour amidst the negative branding that is associated with this party. Such a show would have augured well for the BLP in any election since history would have been made.

You chide Adrian Loveridge for speaking the facts concerning a minister who speaks with fork tongue. Go into his constituency and ask the many how this minister use to handle and speak to them. Ask them how regular he made himself available to hear their needs. It seems that they came over to him as a bother. He has also been described by many as: not the nicest or most humane person when it comes to the colour of his own kind.

@
Sunny
I think some people like you believe that you must come with innuendo and piffal to attack someone personally without looking at the facts. Truth is not always popular but truth is always right. I dont know of any wrong doing which the former Minister has done . I think we have a Police Force which will investigate wrong doing. If you know and you are so sure you should give the information to the Police. That is not to say that wrong does not go undeteced. The DLP was supposed to lock up every one. Not a case. No information?. I think this is trying the patience and intelligence of Bajans . If you besmirch a person willy nilly dont tell me that we must believe your crap . If you have proof bring it. Embarrass the the lying , cheating and stealing politicians? This lame strategy will not work. I say look in the glass and you will see a reflection you do not like. Get thee behind me .

I did not chide Adrian because of the facts he brought. I asked for enlightment in a number of areas with which he would be more familiar and the original point was should we put money in REDjet? The persons have not answered that .Some believe that attacking Lynch would answer the question I say we are more inteligent that that .
I think you should give your self some home work. Go into the constituency and tell me what they are saying about Lynch and Stuart. The last I have heard is that Stuart works in the Constituerncy and no one sees him. He does not come around I doubt it.,but people say so.. You said Lynch is a boaster. Does he have something to boast about?. Lynch was the fastest Bajan in the 100 metres before Oba and you know these athletes! I dont doubt it It is sometihng call personality.It does not make him bad . He is full of selfconfidence and a desire to do well . Dont take away his right to feel important . Give your self a chance to shine. Think on these things

True to Form

Innuendo is an effective tool to use in the context of carefully concealed corruption. How the heck would you know about any wrong doing when you think your boy or maybe you are him has not done a single thing wrong. You are so darn typical in your loyalist ideals that your slip is showing. You want proof, lets get a lie detector test for you and the one you are defending. Other than that none of those whom you seek to defend are not that stupid to make an open show of their instant millionaire status.

True to Form

Not sure of the jealousy you do speak. And the act concerning the proceeds of crime does not apply to high profile figures under our two sided justice system. My reputation can only get tarnish if I misrepresent myself in rogue behaviour. Talk all you like, if the one you seek to defend is the epitomy of integrity and uprightness then let him come foward and take a lie detector test. Other then that no proof can be brought to bare against those in public service who benefit from the public purse through a careful coordination of back handed deals. Why is the one that you seek to coninously defend so attacked by many in this country? I hide behind anonymity for fear of the evil that men do. Why do you hide?

@ Sunshine Sunny… The minute that True To Form took the route about we have a police force so let them investigate,you should have pulled the plug on the dialogue.That was the sign of a person beating a hasty retreat through a back alley in an attempt to avoid the facts.Noel Lynch is one of the most obnoxious persons in Barbados.His dealings with persons under him made a choirboy out of O’brien Trotman.Juxtaposed with the acquisition of his personal treasure trove at a speed that neither he nor Oba ever came close to during their athletic exploits,this man is just not fit to hold office and his party should be ashamed to put him back there.If the police force of which True To Form speaks had any teeth this would be of no bother to us today,for in prison even Mary Magdalene becomes Bubba’s Bitch.

“Like GEMS, if I was a Director I would walk with my head down in shame.”
like clico, if i were a dlp supporter i would walk with my head down in shame at mr thompson’s alleged involvement in the clico scandal especially after exposing to all and sundry mr arthur’s purported impropriety in receivingcampaign funds from clico in the form of a $75000 cheque which he allegedly pocketed for his own use.

“Prove it, former Minister, or is this just another puff of unsubstantiated hot air.”
“but one can not help to see the political dimension of it all from which Noel is trying to reap political benefits! after all who is he to crticise his record as Min. of tourisim leaves much to be desired!”
i must concede that former ministers do indulge in disengenuos and comical banter when they no longer hold office seemingly oblivious to theirown sins of commission when they are in office.Am i to understand that they should not thereafter comment on matters relating to previous responsibilities because of perceived incompetencies in their performances? then if that were the case, the dlp would not have been able to comment on any thing since losing the elections in 1971 for like Gems for example there were many laudable projects initiated by the dlp between 1961 and 1971 some of which like SEAFOODS LTD, CARICARGO, COAST GUARD STATION AT ENTERPRISE BEACH, CREMATORIUM AT WARRENS, CARSICOTT to name a few all came to naught at great expense to the taxpayer but the lack of success of which never prevented the dlp from offering critical comment on similar postions when in opposition.by the way,if mr lynch owns a plantation or whatever that is , he would not be the first minister to do so. mr dacosta edwards former minister of health in the barrow administration was purported to own norwards plantation in stjames. mr vic johnson, former minister of comunications and works in the adams administration was credited with owning one in st lucyand mr morgan lived at one in st john. i went there with mr barrow.. so mr lynch owing a plantation is nothing new. by the way, the emasculation of agriculture commenced with the cutting up of the ruby and sandford estates in st philip under the barrow administration between 1961 and 1971 which is now populated by 99.9 % of DLP supporters of all persuasions mostly high negrocrats, and to a lesser extent middle and lower class.

Sunny
He who affirms must prove. I have never worked for or worked near Mr Lynch. I do not know where he lives or care. I care about you and your inability to prove anything and yet you would want people to believe your crap. You are vain. Talk of lie detector test!. Take it you should be able to say how you got your information. . You do not have the facts so you will go to the inane the stupidity and swiping.. Not a word od peoof form tanyone just slime from you. Get thee behind me / People like you wouldl say anything I have to think it is besause you are a lackey. Think on these things.