The Importance Of Integrity In Public Life, Moving to Stage II

Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart

There is a rising concern about the level of integrity demonstrated by people in high office in Barbados. Such concern is usually targeted at government officials. Not since the late Rt. Hon. J.M.G.M “Tom” Adams, Q.C., M.P failed to enact integrity legislation in the 70s  have we had a Prime Minister who has demonstrated the testicular fortitude to put Transparency Legislation on the statute books.  The Honourable Prime Minister Fruendel Stuart Q.C, M.P maybe the man to do it.

When the Prime Minister announced recently that the Prevention Against Corruption Bill is coming, it caused the political cynics to snigger. BU believes Stuart is serious about delivering the legislation. This is a man who exudes honesty and integrity when compared to his parliamentary colleagues.  He appears to be the type of man who will do what is right and let the chips fall way they may. His biggest challenge maybe within his own team and he will therefore have to drag a few kicking and screaming to the party.

If Stuart can operationalize Transparency Legislation in Barbados – win, lose or draw come general election time, he will command a special place when political history is recorded. However, there is another matter which he needs to put to bed to reinforce the perception that he is a man of integrity. He must inflict Stage II on the Alexandra matter.

Now that the hysteria associated with the Alexandra impasse has subsided, it is time for rational analysis to rise to the fore. BU was chastised for sitting on the fence when we did not throw full support behind headmaster Jeff Broomes. Our position is simple, as headmaster responsible for the administration of the school he did not ‘manage’ the situation effectively. Consequently under his stewardship the reputation of the St. Peter  institution was dented.

There is the the flip side of the issue.

On BU we pride ourselves in distilling issues especially the legal component. There is a strong view in the legal fraternity that no legitimate industrial action should have been taken by the BSTU because Jeff Broomes did not violate the terms of employment of the teachers and therefore there was no grounds for industrial action.

The BSTU took strike action on the grounds that it wanted Broomes removed which, unless Mr Broome had broken the terms of his own employment, did not make sense. In summary if Broomes had not broken his own terms of employment or the terms of employment of the teachers the BSTU was not within its rights to take industrial action. The teachers by striking were the ones to breach.

The legal argument however does not negate the sympathy which many have for the teachers in what turned out to be a black eye for the school. Barbadians continue to wait for Prime Minister Stuart to put the icing on the Alexandra cake. It is a matter of integrity.

  • @David. You are right. The Union had no right to strike. Their members employment terms were not breached by Mr Broome or anyone. And the teachers have no right to try to dictate who should or should not be head of the school. The fact is that there has now been a breach – by the Union and the indivudual teachers themselves.

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  • for the record the PM never gave any details as to what Phase 2 would entail for all we know ther might have been a Phase2 one that was initiated by and agreed upon by the parties involved . However the perception left to linger in the public’s mind is that Phase 2 would entail drastic and quick methods by the removal of Broomes but any one knowing and seeing how PM Stuart thinks would know that he is a man slow to anger and most of all not vindictive and the public’s perception of Phas2 maybe tollally contrary to that of the PM.

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  • The point to be made before the debate goes political is that the PM stated the matter of returning the school to normalcy would have to occur with dispatch. Whether stage II has been initiated is not the point. It is the job of the citizrey to hold the feet of the PM to the fire on this matter. He cannot be politically naïve not to be aware of the political fallout if current perceptions are allowed to blossom with a general election imminent.

    Here is the text of the statement by the PM – http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/pm-stuarts-full-statement/

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  • It really is a question of the right to take industrial action. Whether the strike was legal or not. The rest is window dressing.

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  • after reading the statement i am more convinced that it is a perception voiced by the public of a Phase2 because nowhere in the statement does the PM mentions such a thing as a Phase 2. Moreover he does state that he he hopes that the MOE will take hold of the report and DO ALL THINGS that need to be DONE setting out on a path of enduring solution. As far as i see this matter is in the hands of the MOE and is quite possible that the PM is giving them sufficient time to find resolve. However The PM is acutely aware that feedback on this issue is critical but like he said over and over again the “Barbecue pigtail mentality” is alive and well and he is not influenced by that trend of thought.

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  • @ac

    This is not about the statement it is how the PM manages the ‘barbecue pigtail mentality’ now that we know he knows it exist. If he wants to win an election he has to manage the expectations of the electorate in what Paul Barnes refers to as Emotional Intelligence. How as a leader does he quell the this matter as discussion point, it fact it is more about commonsense.

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  • Presumably the public’s perception of what should be done regarding the continuance of the alexander matter is not up to the PM to quell that is what we have the media for to give facts which are unbiased and salacious in manner instead of giving a false perception of the truth and tilting the truth in a direction which ever the winds blows. If the PM stays abreast of every false and misleading story he would have to spend every day of his political life correcting every innuendo and hyperbole presented as fact and that is not the job of a Leader that is what we have the fourth estate to do. The fact that such a thing as a “Phase2” exist is misleading and only sullys in the interest of those seeking to score political points.

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    @ac
    you are totally correct. He did not say Phase, he said Stage….big difference. Wrt the matter now being a ministry matter, it was taken out of the hands of the Ministry, in addition, CLEARLY by the statements and return to work by the BSTU something or some action has been “promised.” Redman AND Gollop are the ones alluding to “Phase 2.” As to the report, it does not and cannot suggest removal. It can suggest action but alas that action will take years…long after the election bell rings.

    @David
    He cannot be politically naïve

    Sigh. This is one of my fears. Different times, different generations, different modes of media and information consumption. Politicians in this decade cannot operate with the mindset of 20 (or even 18) years ago. I think emotional intelligence was the term used by another blogger. The populace is different, more diverse, more fluid, and more information savvy. Whether the information is right or wrong is another story, but, the impact it can make is what matters.

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  • @Observing

    The Prime Minister promised to follow the matter day to day which means this is not a routine matter.

    The Prime Minister indicated at the time he was not aware of the report which was surprising and an obvious directed slight at Jones.

    What would the public say – BU hopes this does not include PM Stuart – that at the first meeting between the BSTU, Broomes and the MOE, Minister Jones had to adjourn the first meeting because the MOE did not have their counsel present while all the others did.

    Does the PM know this and how does this reconcile with dealing with the matter with dispatch?

    And ac would have us ignore these matter?

    A people will get the government it deserves, come on PM Stuart the window is rapidly closing.

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  • David wrote “Our position is simple, as headmaster responsible for the administration of the school he did not ‘manage’ the situation effectively.”

    What level of management TRAINING and Qualifications are required for the post of Headmaster of a secondary school in Barbados?

    What “management” support staff does the Headmaster/Manager have at the school? Do they have a Human Resources manager. Not likely so all Human resources issues are handled by the MOE. Right?

    Amused wrote “The Union had no right to strike.”
    Union members can exercise their democratic right to withhold services and face the consequences of their actions.

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  • I am supporting the Prime Minister on getting Integrity Legislation before the next elections is called.
    Can you imagine that politicians can say one thing in opposition and then do something else when elected? Most of them seem to want to keep information away from public scrutiny so they can reap the benefits from outrageous contracts from the smallest like fixing a door at a school to building a prison. IT MUST STOP.
    How can intelligent citizens of this fair land allow mostly Economists, Lawyers and Doctors as politicians abused their trust?
    If they want to get rich fast then go and do something like Madoff and end up behind bars in a prison.
    A politician was never locked up in Barbados for any dishonest acts and therefore Integrity legislation may bring us closer to locking up one of them.

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  • it is not going against the grain of what people think or expect of a leader however assumptions or speculations does not cut the grade . The facts of what the PM said are crystal clear on how further measures would be implemented or dispatch. However one chooses to ignore. Never does the PM states catergorically that he himself needs to dispatch on the matters at hand. he however states that stages of ” repair ” subjected to the report would have to be pursued with dispatch and firmness and as of now those matters are being dealt by cabinet and the MOE

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  • Observing (definitely not to be confused with observer)

    I always said the AX matter was major because of the different sectors it crossed. Stuart’s joining in the fray was ill advised because it’s a lose lose situation with labour, legal and political ramifications. Leaders should stay above the fray in cases like that. Redman’s unpopularity and errant actions don’t help. He’s tossed in his hat though and now must follow through the “stages.” The buck stops there. Many people that matter are watching.

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  • @ David

    Have you considered that the PM may have successfully activated phase 2 as intended by demonstrating that there is in fact NO ISSUE that warranted a strike?
    He may well be monitoring the situation as we blog, in order to assess any real or imagined issues, and to be better placed to decide on phase 3- (No Further Action) at which he is a past master.

    The only difference between what FS did and what the Bushman would have done, is that Bushie would have DIRECTED that the teachers had no legal case and should return to work or be dismissed.
    FS ‘s approach may have been the better one- in that, had there been a REAL issue, he would have had the chance to present a backup plan of action.

    The passage of a month without major incident however verifies BT’s instinctive assessment.

    Score for the AX issue –
    FS – 80%
    Mary – 20 %
    Jeff – 54%
    Caswell – 15% (same as he got for a certain subject in school)
    BT – 90% (somewhat below BT’s average)

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | March 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM |

    One must certainly take one’s hat off to you!
    Spoken like a true loyalist with abiding faith in your dear leader. What an “excellent” Deputy PM you would make to handle all the PR and matters of intrigue and conflict. It is amazing or even “Amusing” that such blind faith, confidence and open support is absent among the other players in the ragtag band. If only FS can find a yes person in his cabinet with such blind loyalty to look pass all his faults and be the perfect puppet he will certainly be returned to office, no questions asked. A true friend –political or otherwise- is one who tells you when and where you are going wrong and offers “constructive criticism and advice” not blind sycophancy and ego massages

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    It is one thing to put integrity legislation on the books but it is another thing to police it. Previously I have pointed out that there are many pieces of legislation on our books that should guarantee integrity in the system but are observed in the breach. You do not have to look back very far. What was the Supervisor of Insurance doing in the CLICO affair? The Public Service Commission does not function; Public health inspectors are not allowed to perform their duties by someone who does not have the necessary authority; When has an ombudsman ever worked? I could go on but that is enough to prove that mere legislation does not work.

    I well recall during the campaign there was a promise to implement integrity legislation to deal with elected officials in 100 days. They did not, and to cloud the issue. they drafted legislation to deal with everybody who they perceive to be in public life. They should have implemented the integrity legislation in phases: first dealing with politicians in 100 days; and then everyone else if they wanted to be credible. I maintain the long delay in implementation only facilitated some of the previously unemployed or under-employed paupers who attained office to catch their hands.

    Finally, the biggest problem with this type of legislation is that Government always hold the view that the chairman should be a lawyer. Do they have more integrity than anyone else? I really feel that any such commission should have a legal advisor available to it, especially since lawyers should not advise themselves. If they open up the field they would have a larger pool if honest people available to them. But do they really want honest people or just the perception?

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  • @miller

    another “:Pot shot” that only you can write . Now deal with the facts in the statement and try not to spin yourself out of control . The side effectcs can be harmful which includes dizziness brought about by “Barbeque pig tali Mentality” which you seem to be eating plenty of much lately.

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  • @Bushie

    You might be correct but the PM has to manage public perception in true Richie Haynes fashion.

    Then there is the meeting which had to be adjourned.

    Check today’s Nation as well as every conversation across Barbados when AX comes up as a conversation piece, there is a public expectation which remains unfulfilled.

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  • @Caswell

    Who can despite your last comment up to the point which fails to recognize that Integrity Legislation when operationalized with some good men selection to the Commission maybe the kick start we need to raise the governance level. There must be a reason why politicians from both sides have refused to prioritize the enactment of this legislation.

    For Stuart this maybe legacy building because a win at the next poll seems distant.

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  • yes! perception is everything but being in a political climate people are aware and astute to what is being said and who is saying it and why!

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  • @ac

    If that were the case then perception being reality would not be real would it?

    You can have the last word.

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  • david i find it hard to believe that standards of excellence have fallen so far behind in barbados that the legacy of a prime minister and former attorney general who is not au fait with the laws over which he presides can be accorded hero status for overseeing the passing of integrity legislation which was not even his brainchild. yes, he must be the beneficiary of some credit but i do not see anything so fantastic about the achievment for lack of a better word to describe it. i was shocked when i read in the paper last week that Mr stuart told the DLP faithfuls in New York that the outlawing of bastardy was achieved by the passage of the Succession Act in 1975. Furthermore, it was Mr Stuart’s advice which led to the controversy in the nomination of Mr Gibson for the post of Chief Justice for he is reported to have advised that “there is no legal impediment standing in the way of the appointment of Mr Gibson to the post of Chief Justice”

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  • AC my friend reading between the lines you seem to have gone full circle and now is scratching about like a foul cock over some nondescript point about phase 2 and who introduced it into the debate.. Are you not advocating for the removal of Mr Broomes anymore or are you waiting to see which move Mr Stuart makes first. your eager attention to this phase 2 business suggests to me that you are looking for a way out for Mr Stuart should phase 2 comes to naught or the public’s and your expectation of the outcome (The removal of Mr Broomes) comes to naught.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | March 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM |
    “miller: another “:Pot shot” that only you can write . Now deal with the facts in the statement and try not to spin yourself out of control.

    You call it a “pot shot”. Others might call it a bull’s eye”. What facts are there to deal with? You mean a promise to sort out with DISPATCH (similar to the appointment of a new GG or settlement of the Barrack claim against the Crown) -the AX confusion to ensure the children’s education remains paramount and free from stress and undermining tensions. The way you treat the CLICO exposure and the dismissal of the findings and evidence of the forensic audit can only lead to the conclusion the word ‘fact” is foreign to your biased dictionary. By the way the Oxford English Dictionary defines the word “dispatch’ as verb as: “to deal with a task or problem quickly and efficiently”. Would you, ac, agree that your hero is a keen student of the English language and does not use words of such great import “loosely”?

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  • WHATEVER became of the 100 days promise by the DLP ??
    WHY dont the DLP just resign the Government huh ! huh !! huh ?????

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Integrity legislation is just another high sounding term. Using your office to acquire wealth illegally has always been a crime, with or without integrity legislation. The problem is not the absence of integrity legislation: the real problem is the lack of individuals who are prepared to do their duty. A few years ago, I reported to the police that there were a number of persons on the board of Public Workers’ Credit Union who were embezzling credit-union funds. I supplied all the documentation to prove the case, but they were not prosecuted. Instead, I received a telephone call from a person who identified himself as an assistant commissioner of police who tried to convince me that I should drop the matter since the crooks were all black people.

    If a minister obtains a benefit for himself or for others because he improperly performed his duties or neglected to perform those duties. he would be guilty of an offence even now. However, no one is currently willing to prosecute corruption, probably because that person might eventually fall into the hands of the minister’s colleagues.

    Something that might interest you. The Public Service Act has a whistle-blower provision where a public officer can inform on others who break the law. So far one court marshal made use of those provisions. He was acting in a senior post and they took him down and one of the persons who was paying back money that he had stolen was promoted to take his place, with the blessings of the Public Service Commission. I challenge them to deny that. I was even approached, in Super Centre Warrens, by one of this marshal’s superiors who tried to convince me that I should not represent the marshal. I challenge them to deny that as well and I will call names.

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  • @ Caswell

    Excellent position on Integrity Legislation. A review of BT’s position many years hence would reveal an identical stand.
    Integrity Legislation is just like CSME; these ‘leaders’ have no idea of where we SHOULD be headed, so they make themselves busy finding out where the herd appears to be headed ( using polls and jokers like Wickham) and then pretend to head off in that direction.

    Man Caswell, if only you had stayed out of the AX issue as your campaign manager BT asked you to do, you would now be hitting 100 % scores on most issues….. You was always too hard ears:)

    @ David

    Don’t overdo the perception thing. People are not that smart. Perception only counts at critical times. Remember Eric Williams? …let an issue run for weeks without a word….. Let Tom Dick and Harry have their say….. What perception what?!?
    …..THEN at the critical time (just before elections?) Eric would have the FINAL say!!!!! And every man jack would slink off into the night….

    How do you know that FS is not a student of Eric? Bushie can see it now…. You , Caswell and Old Onions pelting stick in Fueundel week after week….. Then one day he makes a statement to the effect that he always had the matter covered…. He was protecting national interest…. He was able to resolve the matter painlessly, and without any major loss of face…..

    WHO CAN OFFER A BETTER SOLUTION? Not even the bushman…..:(

    Master Stroke…
    FS, 1. BU family, 0

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  • Observing (definitely not to be confused with observer)

    @ac
    Ya all over d place pun dis one man. Let’s see how big a crowd graces haggat hall’s chilly weather and then you can argue with yourself over perception and reality. David (and when possible I) have been shouting the perception over reality argument for months. We may want to think otherwise but in the absence of clear facts and bold pronouncments, perception wins. This is 100 % truer in challenging times. One could argue too that FS used perception to get the BSTU to go back to work….lol.

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  • IS this not a trur trur true statement “the real problem is the lack of individuals who are prepared to do their duty.”
    Caswell Franklyn
    ???????????????

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  • @ Just Asking

    Man what do what duty what?!?!
    That is not even the main problem….

    The REAL problem is the systemic lack of honesty, integrity and truthfulness. NOTE …SYSTEMIC….( if Bushie calls it righteousness some people will get their backs up, and worst yet…..Zoe may come in 🙂 ….)

    Let’s say you are the official who has to stand up and accuse a PM of dishonesty by laundering $3.3m or by banking $ 75,000 that was not his….not as “JUST ASKING”, but as Dick Smith of Licorish Village; husband of Nancy, and father of little Dick and Betty…. Do you get the drift ???? ( just asking…)

    VERY FEW OF US HAVE THE BALLS.
    The situation is made worse when you consider that most people do not even consider these acts by big-ups to be ‘Grossly’ offensive, ….largely because we all do the same things on a smaller scale … AND WOULD DO THE SAME AS THE BIG-UPS IF WE GOT THE CHANCE.

    Caswell Franklyn is one Bajan who has shown that he has the necessary balls – and in that regard, (despite his AX slip,) remains an outstanding national asset in BT’s book.

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  • Integrity legislation … my ass. The are laws governing the awarding of contracts of greater than a certain amount. Employ a Contractor General from over and away, retired and already well off, and pay him handsomely to remain uninvolved in clubs and associations and let him and his staff determine who gets what. (As a consequence we will witness the quick demise of that monstrous, useless, traditional burden to the development of the Caribbean referred to as “the Political Party”)

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  • @BAFBFP

    To confirm your view, you want to have an oversight office based a foreigner holding the office? You are using the argument those who prefer th Privy Council
    above the CCJ perhaps?

    You must be aware such a position has brought no joy to Jamaica?

    Declare your hand man!

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    There is nothing wrong in theory for having our own regional court. The problem came from the quality of judgments that they deliver, probably because the court is staffed by the second eleven, to borrow from cricket. I was one of the biggest proponents of the court. Now I am not so sure, they make stupid blunders and refuse to correct them like the one in the Winton Campbell case which has given the Government to legally destroy the Public Service.

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  • @Caswell

    So that the issue as you described is not the systemic need for the CCJ but the operationalizing (proper staffing) of it. Do you see a parallel with the integrity suggestion?

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  • david see what they want to see or hear what they to hear depends on those who are delivering the message . however facts and perception although seems as real cannot exist evenly in the end the unadulterated truth wins out and in this case where the facts are hidden forums like this allows filtration and evidently facts would be come truth while perception would stand in memorial as a LIE . Decided which side you rather be on Perception or Truth.

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  • correction on above comment: should be “people see……………….

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  • WHO cares about the correction ?
    IS this School ??

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  • WHY is Freundel Stuart still Prime Minister again ???
    WHAT has become of the second ‘faze’ of the Alexandra Foolishness ??
    WHO Freundel think he Fooling,Foolish Fools ?

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  • @just asking
    i like your point of views Limited and only you can understand!

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  • Good to see more people agree with what I have been saying long time–Integrity Legislation my ass. There are 270,000 people in B’dos everybody is a cousin, friend, in law, former schoolmate etc etc, hence many decisions would be under question. There is IL and FOI in Trinidad & Tobago yet a quick read of the recent no confidence motion reveals a litany of ongoing corruption charges. A foreign Contractor General would offer a little more confidence.
    Anyway the absence of IL is not the achilles heel of this government, it is COST OF LIVING et al.

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  • @enuff

    Your broad brush dismissal of a need to pursue measures which bring a higher level of scrutiny to the governance system is not worthy.

    It is clear that we can’t continue business as usual.

    We establish rules which fit pour jurisdiction, it is that simple.

    Barbados has always been a model for others to follow.

    What T&T what?

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  • David read my submission again. It was about priority not necessity!!! Are you willing to sit on the Integrity Board and declare your interests and assets?

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  • BU believes Stuart is serious about delivering the legislation. This is a man who exudes honesty and integrity when compared to his parliamentary colleagues. He appears to be the type of man who will do what is right

    Dear BU
    My first post on this article as have been troubled with network problems..so maybe waaaaayy behind on this one…hope not repeating
    I must say you like many Barbadians like the D word(C too)Dreamers man. You guys serious ?From a man who promise Barrack nearly 3 yrs now, one who promise to to Clico policyholders , who committ to Mary Redman,and she still waiting along with 30 other teachers…come now David and Co. get serious man…I know this post was barely to attract jokes.,,,,,ALL this in less than 10 months….Now Integrity Legislation ??Come now AWAKE will you.

    On this …a man of integrity bit ..less we forget the KING….hold back on them words ..til til

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  • WOULD you be surprised if I told you Bush Tea that I agree with you ???
    DONT you know it is a combination of what you are saying and what Caswell Franklyn is saying ?

    btw Bush Tea -IS that you they mention as departed from Earth on another Blog called Blog watch or Barbados Blog watch or sumting so along with one Bonny Peppa and one Negroman?
    ARE they referring to you Bush Tea ?
    ALSO Bonny Peppa and NegroMan

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  • @observer(DNO)

    To say that one could argue that PM Stuart used perception to get the teachers back to work is not true because for one he met with the teachers and Union and both sides came to a conclusion. Absent of facts are perception but in that case both sides were available to facts. Facts always trump perception no matter who say what and how it is said

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  • WHO going to the Big Meeting tonight ?
    DONT you know that the future of Barbados will be decided tonight at this meeting ?
    DONT you know that the next move is a No-Confidence motion like in Trinidad at present where Kamla la la la is facing one

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  • How many Public servants will declare their assets ??
    DONT you know that the legislation will not be about Politicians but about Public Servants, High and Low especially working in certain (areas of Government that public monies and REVENUE is the focus ???
    WUNNA think it is only Politicians ??
    YUH think that Freundel will bring something (a Law) to just touch his kind ???
    DONT you know that I believe that Freundel will deliver on this one ???

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  • Just asking….what good has a NC motion ever done in Bdos ?
    Of more importance will be future comings… LIME issue…yeah this should be of more importance as well as Mia’s new stance ….ac gf bring a blanket nights could be cold (and a flask of coffee).

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  • Random Thoughts

    Quoting David the blogger ” testicular fortitude ”

    Dear David it is very kind of yu to call it testicular fortitude, but some other people might call it desperation. I think that the Stuart administration has just realized that the public is pissed about the doings of David Thompson and or his administraton and Stuart/the DLP now trying its best to distance itself from David Thompson and the CLICO affair.

    It seems the voting public unlike Freundel Stuart may well believe that Leroy Parris is not their freind, may believe he is a [financial] leper, and that voting public is moving away from the DLP lest it [the voting public] become infected by the [financial] leprosy that is David Thomspon’s legacy to the DLP.

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  • Employment Question for Caswell

    Does an employer have the right to assign any task to an employee that is within the employee’s competency, though outside of the role for which the employee was hired?

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  • Just asking
    Suppose a NC motion was called…do you think Eager 11 mat play a hidden card….hmm interesting .A third party …hmmm tantalizing..we shall see

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  • For sure though, this will be ONE interesting elections….one sided as well..these guys( DLP) just seem hell bent on losing.Why would I want to make yet another PROMISE that I have no real timeintention to keep ? Do I want to go down in history as the PM who could not keep a promise?
    Without even the CLICO forensic disclouser..the word on the street was ONE TERM.Now they sealed by the stench emitting from the tomb.

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  • Random Thoughts

    Quoting whoever “Government always hold the view that the chairman should be a lawyer. Do they have more integrity than anyone else?”

    Some might argue that lawyers have less integrity than other people.

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  • Random Thoughts

    Quoting ole onion bags “they [are] sealed by the stench emitting from the tomb”

    Eloquent.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    David | March 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM | @Caswell So that the issue as you described is not the systemic need for the CCJ but the operationalizing (proper staffing) of it. Do you see a parallel with the integrity suggestion?

    David

    I have always maintained that we cannot truly call ourselves independent when we have an Englishwoman as our Head of State, and we have to revert to her when we want justice. It is nothing but an institutionalized constitutional inferiority complex that would want is to depend on others in this way. If for no other reason than completing our independence, we need the CCJ and a local Head of State. We are saying to ourselves that we are not good enough. However that does not mean that we should staff the court with lazy people who fail to do the necessary research to deliver sensible judgments.

    On the other hand there is no such need for integrity legislation. It was merely an election gimmick because the DLP thought that it would have swayed voters who refuse to think for themselves. They are not really seeking to put any new offences on the law books. The corrupt practices that the bill addresses are already against the law. We did not need integrity legislation: we need enforcement.

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  • @Caswell

    The legislation calls for a declaration of assets to be used as a ‘reference point’ no doubt.

    Where in the existing laws does similar apply?

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Employment Question for Caswell | March 4, 2012 at 4:38 PM |
    Does an employer have the right to assign any task to an employee that is within the employee’s competency, though outside of the role for which the employee was hired?

    The answer to your question is, “No”. An employer would be in seeking to breach your contract if he assigned work that is outside your job description. Mind you, if you accept and perform those duties you cannot change your mind and then refuse. You would have accepted the variation in your contract of employment. They now become part of your duties.

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  • David; re. your 5:36 post above.

    Owen and Mia declared their assets but do you and most barbadians believe that the assets declared were totally accurate and reflected true market value?

    Declaration of assets is important but has to be ironclad where, e.g., independent assessors certify that the declaration reflects reasonable reality.

    Can you point us to a URL with the draft IL legislation and let us see how tightly it is written?

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  • @ old onion bags

    “One term Government” … Jesus H C’rist, you mean I gun be hearin’ that stuttering buffoon as a Prime Minister again … nah! Not he … Lard I can’ tek it na more …! I VOTING INDEPENDENT OR NOT AT ALL!

    @ David

    I have absolutely no problem with the Privy Council residing in London … or Canada … or Nigeria … or New Zealand … or any place else but ’bout hey …! There. I have declared my hand …!

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  • @ david

    So I declare my assets $1000. What powers will there be to delve into the accounts of family members’ accounts where I stash the kick backs?

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  • Employment Question for Caswell - Thanks.

    Caswell Franklyn | March 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM |
    Thanks.

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  • Checkit-Out wrote “Owen and Mia declared their assets but do you and most barbadians believe that the assets declared were totally accurate and reflected true market value? ”

    I am sure Mia’s declaration of her personal assets was correct. She has no reason to hide assets when her future Inheritances will be far more valuable.

    Owen is an honourable man who surrounded himself with honourable Barbadians like annister and icholls who would have advised him to declare all of his assets.

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  • enuff wrote “What powers will there be to delve into the accounts of family members’ accounts where I stash the kick backs?”

    Interesting especially with the large number of Bajans who are bastards like me.
    Then there are friends who are like close family.

    Lots of “safe havens” for “assets”.

    That is why IL must have enough “teeth” to do a forensic audit if there is the appearance of impropriety.

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  • AFTER declaring my assets , do you want them to walk on water ???
    WHEN will bajans ever be satisfied ???
    YUH dont know that Bajans like to talk people name and technology has made it so easy now for malicious Bajans ???

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  • @JUST ASKING ,

    YUH dont know that Bajans like to talk people name and technology has made it so easy now for malicious Bajans ???

    You nailed it. That is what has fuelled the fear of IL and a FOI act.

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  • @ JUST ASKING
    Re: Barbados blog watch, it would appear that after failing to impress as an interloper on BU, the author has gone off to play with himself…..and unable to generate original subject matter, has been poaching on BU.
    WRT to Reference to the ‘late Bush Tea’, …any rumors about the Bushman’s passing are greatly exaggerated…..but it is good to be missed 🙂

    @ Caswell
    ….so are you ready to agree with the Bushman now – that the only serious hope of an effective Government lies in Bushie’s plan for the Senate to be converted into a National Supervisory Council- like the cooperative?
    And for a select group of “Politicians” to be recruited ( after applying for advertised positions) to execute a prescribed Strategic Plan,
    And with ongoing performance reviews and immediate ‘acceptance of their resignations’ as soon as performance falls below par….

    ….and will you chair the NSC?

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  • Caswell Franklyn | March 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM |
    Employment Question for Caswell | March 4, 2012 at 4:38 PM |
    Does an employer have the right to assign any task to an employee that is within the employee’s competency, though outside of the role for which the employee was hired?

    The answer to your question is, “No”. An employer would be in seeking to breach your contract if he assigned work that is outside your job description. Mind you, if you accept and perform those duties you cannot change your mind and then refuse. You would have accepted the variation in your contract of employment. They now become part of your duties.
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    Does a job description not also carries the blanket proviso of, “And any other duties.” ?

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  • WAH wubba habba Owen ??
    OWEN hubba wubba ???
    WUNNA think Owen easy???
    WUNNA want sain wid Owen ???

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Colonel

    When you see, “And any other duties” written in a job description, it does not mean that the employer could give the employee anything to do. The other duties must relate to the other items in the job description. For example, if you employ a maid and her duties are itemized in a job description, let’s assume that one of those duties is mopping: you do not have to include an item in the job description that requires the maid to catch the water in the mop bucket, but she could not refuse to catch the water because that is not written in the job description. Similarly, if you employ a financial controller, the employer could not reasonably assign a duty to mop.

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  • @BU.David et al…

    If I may please identify the elephant in the room…

    The Late (Great?) Thompson promised two things to the electorate: Integrity Legislation, and a Freedom of Information Act. Promised to be delivered within 100 days of his being elected.

    Neither were delivered.

    But I find it very interesting that we’re so focused on the former, while the latter has effectively been forgotten.

    The former falls out of the latter — FOI is the most important broken promise.

    I would argue that if Stuart wants to make his mark on the good he has done for Barbados (while he can), he would focus on FOI.

    FWTIW….

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  • Observing (not to be confused with Observer)

    Excellent point Chris.
    I missed the fact that he (FS) only promised PoC and IL. Question begs, can corruption be uncovered and lack of integrity proven without requisite freedom of information in place? If the answer is no, then you have introduced a very relevant elephant.

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  • @Chris

    Maybe wrongly so but whenever mention is made of ‘transparency legislation’ it is meant to include both FOI and I’ll. You are correct however that there is an emphasis on integrity legislation.

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  • @ Caswell
    Quoting from your comment above. . . .”Similarly, if you employ a financial controller, the employer could not reasonably assign a duty to mop.”
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    That is technically & legally the accepted position “in theory”. However, Caswell, sometimes the reality of the situation could be far different. I don’t know if any “financial controllers” with a family waiting at home for the next meal who would be willing to bet that he could refuse to “mop” and still have a job. With my experience of the job climate/employers in Barbados that fellow’s employers have been known to then make it a priority to find some way or ways of terminating (victimising?) that person without a word being said by the authorities. So now out of work, that person is left scrambling to seek another job which maybe very difficult to land these days. Ah lie? Bullying does not only occur in school, Caswell it is also alive and well in the work place today.

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  • Observing (not to be confused with Observer)

    @David
    The DLP hasn’t used the words “transparency legislation” and FS was pointed in mentioning PoC and IL as opposed to the additional FoI. I’m curious as to whether they intend to bring both… Did the original PoC bill mention anything about FoI??

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  • @BU.David: “Maybe wrongly so but whenever mention is made of ‘transparency legislation’ it is meant to include both FOI and I’ll.

    Careful David. You are dealing with lawyers here, who are artists with language…

    Please remember that the fundamental point of Freedom of Information is everything produced using public funds should be publicly known.

    Every “first world” democracy has a form of FOI.

    Barbados claims to be a democracy, and aspires to be “first world”.

    Thus, I would argue there is something a bit weird about the fact that Barbados does not yet have a FOIA on the books….

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  • @Observing

    The comment was in the context of BU commentary on the matter.

    @Chris

    Agree with you. The obvious corporate governance deficit exposed by CLICO makes transparency legislation (PoC and FOI a priority. What harm can it do? We cannot have business as usual.

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  • Observing (not to be confused with Observer)

    @David
    noted

    A lot is riding on its implementation though. Going to election without it would be political suicide. Well, more than has already been committed.

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  • @BU.David: “What harm can it do?

    To the electorate, none. In fact, there can only be upside.

    To those who “feed at the trough”, on the other hand, it can change “business as usual”.

    Want to guess who are in control of passing such legislation?

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  • Can,t wait to see some heads roll when the FOI is implemented.

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  • Random Thoughts

    Chris Halsall asked “Want to guess who are in control of passing such legislation?”

    My response: Those who feed greedily at the public trough?

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  • a special place what… please … he is killing us with his non-performance adacemic nonsense … please …. It is possible to be so smart you end up stupid.

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