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  • Loads and loads of fun actually. The kind taught to them by us adults.

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  • The youth of today is responsible for the leadership of tomorrow.

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  • And some got de Gall to criticize Rhianna!

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  • Now really, what is the purpose of this?
    Is it suppose to promote an Independence Kadooment?
    Is it to demonstrate that kids are actually learning and that the present education system is not a total waste?

    If it is suppose to highlight something negative that was taking place, I for one do not see it. I mean, how can I condemn these children and at the same time condone and endorse the behaviour of their elders, including our very own Grammy Award winning Ambassador and the Queen of Soca.

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  • Dear David:

    Don’t you think that as an adult you have a responsibility to protect foolish school children from themselves?

    Even if somebody sent you this video, you did not have to post it.

    Shame on you.

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  • @Random

    Next time BU will push it under the rug.

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  • the youth of today is responsible for the leadership of tomorrow. very nice sounding words david.
    Questions: But aren’t the leaders of today responsible for the youth of tomorrow .

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  • What the hell you expect when you allow that kind of behavior (and worst)to dominate Kadooment and fool the youth (by the actions of the adults) that this is ‘we culture’?

    The NCF can be justifiably proud as can the Minister of Culture. Moral decay, a society that has lost its way.

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  • What you are seeing on the vid is more the influence out of Jamaica and the dancehall dibby dibby stuff.

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  • @David

    Why do you seek to portray Jamaica as the source of all that you consider negative especially when it relates to the behaviour of our young people?

    First of all they may be young but they are sexual beings and when their hormones are flowing its “kitty bar the door”. If the folks who” tut tut” at the action were honest they would admit that when they were teenagers they did the same when they thought that they could get away with it.

    BTW since you mentioned the dance hall activity, have you ever observed how American College kids act during Spring Break? How come you don’t blame them for this type of activity?

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  • that’s dancing? or wukking up, looks like boring sex, since clothes are still on.

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  • @Sargeant

    To anyone who wants to be honest about what is happening in Barbados – what is being portrayed on the video should be of concern. Several factors are obviously interacting to bring us where we find ourselves, the ghetto Jamaican sub culture is just one factor.

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  • can’t get better than that ! blame Jamaica! Who next dee obeah man!

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  • There is no one to blame but ourselves. Strange behavioral influences have always been around. Time to take stock of what we are doing on this rock of ours instead of pointing fingers all the time and trying to put the blame on anyone but us. Not one of those children could be or would be mine…and if one was and I recognized it, that child would nevah see a party evah again until he/she became an adult with responsibility. There is not much more to say…except perhaps one thing…when I look at some of the comments above, and some comments on other blogs, I can see why this behaviour is taking place amongst our youth and further, during the celebration of our independence – a celebration that should be conducted with some form of decorum because of its symbolism which seems to be lost today…no problem with having fun and dancing but this is outrageously bad. And BU thanks for exposing (and do not pardon the pun!). Shame on all of us. Pure shame.

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  • We live in a time where there is declining moral standards and rising parental delinquency. In such an environment don’t you thing a strong sub culture would thrive?

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  • True these youngsters are imitating adult behaviour. One of my students told me the same thing in a discussion about the behaviour at the school.

    I asked her if she has seen all the adults she knows misbehaving themselves? If most of the adults she has ever seen were misbehaving themselves?

    The answer to both was; no. So the next question was why do they not imitate the behaviour of the adults who were not “loud and brawling, not behaving crude and lewd, not swearing and fighting, not disgracing and disrespecting themselves”?

    Yes I do believe that adults need to set the right example and I believe that most do, but if the youngster was not nurtured to be strong and sound in judgement, he/she is most likely to follow his/her peers if they choose to follow the bad examples.

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  • I see boys and girls haveing fun, doing what they do at cropover, now lets just say you are right David, and what they are doing is wrong, can you tell me what they SHOULD be doing instead?

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  • cut it. blame jamacia, blame america, blame england, blame adults,blame,blame,blame. i am 54 years old and living in the US, i did that stuff 30 years ago in Barbados, the difference? the girls did’nt bend all over like that

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  • We are saying to our children, “Do as I say and not as I do”. Children imitate what the adults do. You cannot have all this vulgarity on the streets every year, sponsored by Government, right in front of the children and then say to them that it is not acceptable.

    Barbados has become a nation of wuk up. We even have a national wuk up foundation. The NCF does precious little to develop other aspects of our culture. We are now reaping the whirlwind. We can be justly proud of our success.

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  • I don’t comment or say much on this blog but the comment on this video has mad me upset. When are you all going to wake to hell up and understand what is total ignorance and what is commonsense its time the majority of you on this blog learn to do such.

    First of all whatever is taking place is taking place at school, where are the teachers and principle that are responsible for these children from the time they arrive at school? Secondly the teachers and principle are NOT doing they job, if they were what we are witnessing in the video will not have be taking place, two thing am assuming are happening the children are unsupervised or the principle and teachers just don’t care about what is taking place right before they eyes.

    I see nothing wrong with allowing the children to have dress down day at school allowing them to wear the national colors of Barbados to showcase and high light Independence. But its total unacceptable for the principle and teachers to just sit or stand around and allow those children to behave in that manner within the walls of that school that they are responsible for.

    Time to STOP POINTING FINGERS and who is charge with running the schools of Barbados take RESPONSIBILITY of doing so.

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  • Rosemary Parkinson and David I congratulate you both for knowing what is ignorance. Caswell Franklyn am disappointing in you just so you know now that am finally speaking on this blog, I once look up to you and see you as someone with credibility but from seeing you in action on this blog I no longer do. Your above comment is a perfect example. Stop pointing your finger and blame who is to be blame the NCF has nothing to do with what is taking place in the video.

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  • Many will blame outside forces (sounds familiar) for the behaviour of our school children when we see this taking place at Crop over over the years. This didn’t happen overnight, we see toddlers behaving this way and laugh and say it is cute. Vulgarity is the accepted norm as it is considered WEE CULTURE. When anyone criticizes this vulgarity he or she is condemned and told that “wunna trying to be white” or “wunna trying to be BOURGEOIS”. Children learn what they see and hear. Good examples will go far just as Bad examples. Let us start setting some good examples and start correcting the little ones. The outlook doesn’t look too good if we continue to accept this type of behaviour.

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  • Who Is To Blame?

    On August 21, 2008, I submitted an article on this Blog (BU).
    “Is wuking up “without limits” Barbadian culture?

    I looked into the distance and did not like what I saw but excuses are always made.

    I will say now, that not before long the attire in such dances will be so minimal that no imagination will be required and then some soul to make a name of sorts for him/herself will throw all caution to the wind and there “it will happen in full view”. On stage in a quiet place, then perhaps a club and then more open. People will shake their heads and ask how did we get to so dark a place. How? because by increments my friend by increments.

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  • I will say now, that not before long the attire in such dances will be so minimal that no imagination will be required and then some soul to make a name of sorts for him/herself will throw all caution to the wind and there “it will happen in full view”.
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    Sir, the above already occurs. If you doubt me tell David to ask his sources and report back to the blog.

    The “Ghetto Culture” as BU likes to term it, is embraced and promoted by respectable and honorable members of this society for profit.

    The bigger problem is that too many, as they hobnob with the well-to-do and better-off, are oblivious to the new Barbados taking shape beyond their little enclaves

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  • I agreed with David that this type of dancing came out of Jamaica dance halls in which some Barbadian adults and young persons are now hook. It is called the 360.

    My problem is that it is happening on the school compound where the Principal and teachers should be in control of whatever is happening.

    These same children go to school prayers and talk and do all kinds things because they have to stand up too long which is usually about 15 minutes. The same adults who are in charge of them and cannot get them to take prayers seriously plan all kinds of shows for them to wuk up for hours.
    Time to take a stand Barbadians; find out what is going on in our schools

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  • hsge

    I never asked you or anyone to look up to me: I am not one of your parents, you are looking in the wrong place for role models. I call things as I see them, if that disappoints you, tough! My younger son once said to me, “Daddy I want to be just like you”. that’s who I am responsible for and he is proud of me , so to hell with you.

    That said, now to deal with your naivety. Do you think that the children’s eyes are closed when a state agency, the NCF, promotes and sponsors the exact behaviour that these children are copying. If you doubt me stand on the streets between the National Stadium and Spring Garden on Kadooment Day and tell me what you see. This vulgarity is promoted even by our churches since they lend their blessings to the proceedings. While they would argue that church members were not dancing in that manner, ask what are they doing there, walking holy or otherwise?

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  • This behaviour is an escalation of carnival and crop over wukkin up.

    Google you tube videos of “sparrow de two ah dem” then Alison Hinds and then lill Rick.

    Children are usually a product of their environment.

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  • Dear David:

    I have not changed my mind, so I repeat

    “Dear David:

    Don’t you think that as an adult you have a responsibility to protect foolish school children from themselves?

    Even if somebody sent you this video, you did not have to post it.

    Shame on you.”

    These children may be too young to know better, but there is no excuse for a had back man such as yourself.

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  • UWI-Barbados Carnival

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  • AH, to be young and foolish again. I’m sure that ALL of US in our youth did things, that in later life, we were not too proud of, however most of us turned out to be responsible individuals. Some Posters think this style of dance comes from Jamaica, I think it comes from the GREEK culture of the Mediterranean, they made the “back door” approach famous long before Jamaica or Barbados was even thought of.

    Let the youth of today have some fun just as we did.

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  • Article in the Boston Globe:

    Arlington High bans student dances

    Arlington High School administrators have suspended school dances because an increasing number of students are drinking alcohol and dancing inappropriately at the school functions.

    Mary Villano, the interim principal at the school, sent a newsletter to parents Monday saying the moratorium will be in place until administrators can address growing concerns about behavior at the dances.

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    At every dance in the past few years, at least a couple of students have been asked to leave and have then been suspended, because of drinking, Villano said. This school year, she said, some students have vomited and been taken to the hospital from dances because they were intoxicated.

    At the same time, Villano said school officials also believe the dancing has become too sexual, including a dance style called grinding, in which students are in close physical contact.

    http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/11/30/arlington-high-bans-student-dances/eo82w7yGjtTR2mwp0ABnvK/story.html

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  • @Green Monkey

    Why bother, let the children have ‘fun’.

    Let them bend down and expose the crack of their arse because it is the decent thing foe a 13 year old to do.

    Let them party in the classrooms unsupervised because it is the way to go.

    Why bother if it has been happening through the ages.

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  • We throw our hands up in despair as if nothing can be done, that is not the case.

    We need a Police Inspector with the will to Act.

    (1) He should observe the dance; choose his opportunity carefully.

    (2) Ensure he has photographic evidence, this is crucial as all dances are not the same.

    (3) When certain parts of the body are exposed even if fleetingly, warn the young lady that if she continues to dance in that manner so attired, she will be arrested for indecent behaviour. If she persists arrest her immediately, your evidence must be unambiguous. Ensure that some of the persons watching or who saw the dance were offended by it, and are prepared to give evidence.

    Which Inspector of Police will step up to the plate and do Barbados proud, your name will be spoken of in future as one who had the courage to stop this foolishness. Who will be the “Man?”

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Yardbroom | December 4, 2011 at 1:42 PM |

    Why don’t you stop with this moral policing agenda?
    First get the said bent moral police to lock up Leroy and his thieving cronies along with those that took millions from people in VAT and bluntly refuse to pay it over to the Treasury to help reduce the deficit! When we see those enforcement measures occurring we will support you on your moral crusade to try to “straighten out” the hormone-charged youths. At least they are not yet in board rooms planning how to rip off naive suckers like the CLICO policyholders!
    Fix the cabinet and the vip champagne stalls and bars before you comment on the playpen! (Hoping you get the gist!)

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  • Indecent behaviour or indecent exposure?

    Please confirm.

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  • you could say david is a pervert by showing an orgy gang banging video of underage school children. merry xmas bu

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  • Who decides when a dance is indecent?
    Those plumbers bending down and exposing the cracks of their arses around this country daily, you are hereby asked to cease and desist.
    The same also goes to you young women travelling on ZR Vans.

    By Order Of Management.

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  • @miller

    We have to be vigilant about all things you are correct. However as adults we have to speak out about behaviours which we believe are wrong. Arising from the discussions the moral compus will ‘settle’. There is no absolute right or wrong this is why morality issues are the most challenging. Do not deny the citizenry the right to express outrage.

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  • Jesus piece man, I wish I was back school in these times … wah … Look, I was very opposed to co-education, but now I change my mind … Too sweet!

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  • Hi 630,
    Who decides when a dance is decent?

    To outrage Public Decency
    “(1) Publicity: the offence ( whether substantive or a conspiracy to commit it) must be commited in public, in the sense that the circumstances must be such that the alleged outrageously indecent matter could have been seen by one person only, no offence is committed. (2) Outrage: it should be emphasised to the jury that “outrage” (like corrupt) is a very strong word. Outraging public decency goes considerably beyond offending the susceptibilities of, or even shocking, reasonable people. The offence is concerned with minimum standards of decency which are likely to vary from time to time. The jury should be reminded where appropriate that in a plural society with a tradition of toleration towards minorities, this atmosphere of toleration is itself part of public decency.”

    If you equate a workman be it a plumber etc doing his work and thus bending over in the act of working or a young lady boarding a bus; as the same as a young woman very scantily dressed – to the point where at times she could be exposed – contorting herself with a male behind her simulating the sex act accompanied by music as the same. I will leave it to others to decide if the circumstances mentioned here are that….the same.

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  • This exhibition is but a reflection of Western society’s dearth of appropriate behaviour. This dry humping would be okay if it did not lead to further encounters due to the youngsters inability to restrain further action on the basis of comprehending potential consequences. C’bean people tend to be very sexually explicit and as a youth I did some serious “grinning” too BUT was somewhat more circumspect than many. Indeed I had a few experiences where really over heated females demanded sex in front of other friends! The peer pressure can lead to trouble, as in promising students ending up pregnant and placing major roadblocks in their attainment of a successful life.

    This kind of premature action does NOT occur in many societies including Singapore, Muslim countries etc. It is definitely an aspect of Cbean life that impinges on our development and maximisation of our most critical resource …people.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ David | December 4, 2011 at 2:38 PM |

    Agree! Life is not a black or white picture but is made up of various shades of grey and other colours of the spectrum.
    My contention is that interpretation of morality is not the province of the police. Whereas blatant violation of statute laws is the immediate concern of the police and should be their direct focus as opposed to watching young people “wukking up” in a bacchanalian fashion even under the sponsorship of well known corporate peddlers of alcoholic beverages. Yardbroom has every right to express disgust and outrage at his interpretation of immoral behaviour but also should have the more important expectation that blatant violations of the laws of the land must be brought to the fore (not swept under the carpet with his hypocritical broom) and dealt with by the same law enforcement agencies that he or she wants to see spend scare resources spying on ‘energised and sexually expressive ‘young people.

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  • @BAFBFP
    Agreed, I would still be in 3rd Form at HC now so!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    Moneybrain | December 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM |
    “This kind of premature action does NOT occur in many societies including Singapore, Muslim countries etc. It is definitely an aspect of Cbean life that impinges on our development and maximisation of our most critical resource …people.”

    Take your pick: “Wukking up” and gyrating in a sexually suggestive way in a Caribbean Dionysian environment or a woman being raped and then punished by stoning or jailing for inviting this violation on herself under Sharia circumstances. What about a fitting act of “honour’ killing of a woman not keen on marrying a man chosen for by her family even if he is an abuser or homosexual? What about other acts of moral rectification in line with the pronouncements of theocratic dictators from the 6th century.

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  • Yardbroom,
    Unless you are saying that a crack exposed to the public during a dance is more offensive than one exposed under other circumstances, as far as I am concerned, a crack is a crack. Patch one, patch all.

    Re:
    … a young lady boarding a bus; as the same as a young woman very scantily dressed – to the point where at times she could be exposed – contorting herself with a male behind her simulating the sex act accompanied by music …

    The same thing takes place every year during August at state sponsored events. Events that the members of the RBPF, including Inspectors , provide security and prevent breaches of the law.
    I cannot recall any of those person simulating sex being arrested for doing so, but I guess it is not too late to start doing so. Recorded evidence is all over the Internet, not sure if it is admissible in the hallowed chambers at Whitepark though.

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  • Moneybrain

    To be honest I feel that you should still be in third form .. fah real!

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  • If a female bends down on the bus to pick up her bag and her blouse accidentally rides up her waistline and exposes her bottom how can you equate that with another female who is knowingly and deliberately exposing her behind?

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  • Okay let’s nit pick.
    How does one enforce a subjective law?

    Females deliberately exposing their cracks are offensive. Agreed?
    Now if a female deliberately chooses to dress in such a manner that if her blouse accidentally rides up, her behind is exposed to the public, is she also not guilty of indecent behaviour?

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  • This is why issues of morality will occupy us until eternity.

    There is alot of grey and this is why citizens will always have to dialogue on these kinds of issues, ensuing tensions notwithstanding.

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  • To quote Timothy Wilken who graciously shared a preview of his soon to be released book:

    “To solve today’s problems and exit our current human crisis will require
    nothing less than the creation of Enlightened CommUnities. We humans can build a better world for ourselves, for our children, and for our children’s children, but to do so we will have to work together and act responsibly. We will have to change our minds as individuals, and we will have to change our behaviors both as individuals and as community.

    Fortunately, we humans live in a knowable world — a world that can be
    understood by observation, measurement, and experience of the physical world — a world that can be understood by observation, pattern modeling, and experience of the metaphysical world.”

    http://synearth.net/Restricted-Confidential/EnlightenedCommUnityPreview.pdf

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  • I understand that what we see is not the worse that happens at some of these parties, many times it gets very wild and the young people expose themselves in public. I guess someone will say, what they do at a private party is not the responsibility of the police, but that is were we allow our moral standards to fall to an all time low. Time we arrest this situation and bring laws to curb the vulgar behaviour of today’s youth, we need to protect them from themselves. Out of this culture we are having too many young girls under thirty years of age with five to eight children from just as many males. Today many are regreting their slack behaviour when they were joung

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  • isn’t there a law against indecent exposure which applies to persons knowingly exposing certain areas of the human anatomy which are considered private and should be clothed or covered up when in public or public view,

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  • In the USA children under the age of 21 years are not allowed in night clubs, also they are not allowed to drink alcohol, but it is not unusual to find fifteen year olds in St Lawrence Gap on weekends and drunk too. Many are victims then of older men; our moral have fallen to an all time low,, but we can’t just blame the youth, it is a combination of evils that has caused this.

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  • ac
    Yes, but at a private party, is it in the pubilc’s view? What about the many adult clubs here in Barbados where even some executives promotes and some of these have very young girls dancing before them in the nude or very scantily dressed. What about the private yachts that take some of these young girls out at night for private entertainment out to sea, an no-one bothers to distrub them? there are a lot of things that happens in this little country with our youth that would make what we see here look like a Sunday School party.

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  • Check the many young girls who do simple jobs during the day but are driving the posh cars and SUVs. How do you think they got those and they owe no-one financial company or bank for them? Even some school children have more money than we adults and they are dressed in the very latest every show in Barbados.

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  • @ The Scout

    “… but it is not unusual to find fifteen year olds in St Lawrence Gap on weekends and drunk too..”

    Now the f*ck do you know this ..?!

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  • And by the way girls with the ordinary jobs and the fancy cars may very well be driving their parents’ or boy friend’s cars …

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  • BAFBFP
    Is St Lawrence Gap a restricted area? Does one have to have a permit to be in St Lawrence Gap? There are places in St. Lawrence Gap and Dover where adults congregate and have healthy fun, maybe you can pass there one night.

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  • BAFBFP
    As a H.C boy, you’re either dumb or ignorant of what’s going on in Barbados, or you’re just trying to believe it’s not happening , but WAKE UP my lad and see what’s going on, get to know about the executive adult/nude parties that are held behind electronic gates, about the wife swooping, about the immoral acts that are done almost every week end in Barbados. If you don’t know about it, it is because either you don’t want to know or you pretend they don’t happen. Maybe you need an exoctic massage.

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  • Quoting Scout “executive adult/nude parties that are held behind electronic gates, about the wife swooping”

    And these things are being done by school children?

    Or I nay ask so what? When I was just a youth way back in the 60’s one of our SIRS he wasn’t a sir then, divorced his wife and married his brother’s wife. We subsequently knighted him and he and his brother’s wife went on to live happily ever after, even until today. And we hold them up an Pentecostal Christian examplars in this society. And I didn’t hear anybody calling for any locking up. And now we want to lock up school girls for dancing?

    You old frauds make me sick

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  • Quoting Yardbroom ” warn the young lady that if she continues to dance in that manner so attired, she will be arrested for indecent behaviour. If she persists arrest her immediately”

    So Yardbroom I see both boys and girls dancing in this video, and yet you are planning to have only the gilrs arrested.

    Why?

    What is it about old men that they are so anxious to police the behaviour of women, especially of young women?

    Just today I was talking to a friend. She is an old woman who taught elementary school for more that 40 years. She put a good chuck of her gratuity in CLICO’s flexible executive annuities. Now she has been retired a few years and she would like her money back, especially as she has an adult child who is sick an unemployable. Yet I don’t hear the Yardbrooms of Barbados and the Caribbean calling for the arrest of CLICO executives here or in Trinidad.
    Is it because the CLICO executives are the friends of dead and living Prime MInisters?
    Is is because old women who taught our snotty nosed children for more than 40 years are unlikely to have belonged to the right lodge.
    When will we realize that many of our children have lost all respect for us because they know that we are a bunch of old time frauds?

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  • Dear Yardbroom: I guarantee you that nobody in that room was outraged.

    However I am outraged that my Prime MInister Freundel Stuart claims Leroy Parris of CLICO as a friend.

    Shall we lock up the PM then because I can assure you, he outrages me everyday.

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  • @Random

    Why can’t you stay on point?

    We are discussing the behaviour of a group of children and CLICO yet again has to find its way into the conversation?

    Would you want your 13 year old daughter or son for that matter engaging in that bullshite behaviour?

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  • Quoting moneybrian “. Indeed I had a few experiences where really over heated females demanded sex in front of other friends!”

    Don’t know where you went to school or what sort of people you hung out with, but as I approach pensionable age I’ve never yet heard anyone demand sex of anyone else.

    But maybe moneybrain you are not only a lot brighter than me, but I guess a lot better looking too.

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  • Quoting moneybrain “This kind of premature action does NOT occur in many societies including Singapore, Muslim countries etc.

    Maybe moneybrain becasue when a Muslim girl is 16 she has already whether she likes it or not been taking “legal” doggie for years. In other words at her first menstrual period the girl has been married off to a first or second cousin who is likely twice her age. Ain’t that the truth money brain?
    So therefore as a 16 year old married with a child or 2 or 3 (whether she likes it or not) she has no time for wikking up. And besides Islam forbids dancing for everybody. But Christiany encourges dancing. One of the folks who know the Scriptures better that me will tell you that somebody danced in the temple before the Lord. In fact the dancing of JUdiasm and subsequently Christianity is the exact reason why Islam forbids dancing. Dancing is sensual and sexy. Stll Islam does not forbig 13 year old girls from tekking man, in fact encourages barely pubescent girls to take as much man as they like (once it is theri husband) even if he has a dozen other wives. As I said go figure.vGo figure.

    Dear moneybrian:

    You live in Canada I think. Is it not true that the Shafia famly, father, mother and teenage son are currently on trial for the first degree murders of 3 daughters of the family and the father’s first polygamous wife. Is it not true that when the men in the family could not control the bahaviour of the 13, 17 and 19 year old and thier 52 year old stepmother the 4 ended up dead, dead, dead. And is it not true that one of the things that bothered the father is that one of the girls sent pictures of herself in her underwear to her boyfriend?

    Don’t take my work for it google “Shafia”

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  • @ David

    Random Thoughts is damn on Mark. Morality is not like Scout says, in fact I believe it immoral to speak with confidence on a subject and not demonstrate some qualification or experience. It is also damned immoral to assume that I am from Crumpton Street High, immoral to continue the labeling of two of Barbados’ many high schools as Colleges when they are NOT, and immoral as Prime Minister to refer to the head of a very offensive and irresponsible institution in Barbados as a “friend”. Nudity and displaying of sexuality by school children might very well be inappropriate behavior, but immorality is not an issue here

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  • Quoting David “Would you want your 13 year old daughter or son for that matter engaging in that bullshite behaviour?”

    Actually they have, and so have I, and so has our foremothers.

    None of us came to any harm. We all remain fit and healthy way, way, way into extreme old age. Dancing is good for the health. Very, very good.

    Dancing cannot get a girl pregnant.

    A girl can only become pregnant when an older boy or adult man puts his penis into her vagina. I think that we should be calling on men to control their penises. Or is that too hard? (Pun intended)

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  • Sigh, the actions/behaviours of the person today must be assessed against the climate operating today.

    To compare what you did of ever long ago is like comparing Lara with Sobers.

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  • We act as though dancing is sex. It is not. And eve sex is not new. Young people have always had esx. I am her reading the Sunday Sun page 32A and B. In this article Professor (now Sr) Mickey Waldron speaking of 1964 is quoted as saying “There were lots of uyoung women who wer e having miscarriages, abortions – some of them induced abortions illegally”

    These young women who were pregnant and aborting in 1964 must have been born between 1924 and 1949. The QEH gave them D&C’s, and IUD’s and they went back to being our respectable mothers, grandmothers, big sisters and aunties. And some of our men also born before 1950 must have been the ones who impregnated them, and must also have encouraged or compelled them to abort.

    Cause don’t tell me that they were impregnated by little green men from mars.

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  • David the way a girl or woman become pregnant has not changed in maybe 2 million years. Dancing does not cause pregnancy. It didn’t 2 million years ago and it does not now. The best thing we can do for our teenaged girls is for our men to keep their penises in their pants. Or may I ask again. Is that too hard?

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  • I am sure that you know that the statistics have been collected and most 16 year olds who become pregnant. become pregnant by MEN who are on average 10 years older. And yet we have people on this blog calling for the arrest of dancing school girls.

    And yes David it is IMMORAL for CLICO to deprive elderly, sick poor widows and orphans of their money. But I suspect that just as Leroy is Freundel’s friend, that you too are Fruendel’s friend.

    Neither of them is my friend. I choose my freinds very, very carefully.

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  • Quoting moneybrain “This kind of premature action does NOT occur in many societies including Singapore, Muslim countries etc.

    Dear moneybrain Methinks that you have spent too much time in your counting house. When a Saudi girl and her mother goes for a skiing holiday in Switzerland even though neither of them can ski don’t you think that it is possible that expensive, secretative Swiss clinics will perform abortions as needed, and will restore the girls hymen so that her virginity is restored.

    If the Saudi and other Muslim men ever discoverd how many of them are married to recycled virgins all hell would break loose.

    But Swiss clinics are as secretative as Swiss banks.

    But just as you know banking secrets some of us know medical secrets.

    Rest assured that Muslim girls are just as sexual as Bajan girls.

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  • @ David
    …after all the Bushman’s efforts and you still arguing with a woman…..

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  • @Bush Tea

    One would have hoped that a woman would be horrified at the behaviour captured on the video.

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  • What is clear to me is that women understand morality a hell of a lot better than men. Probably explains why Church is traditionally a male dominated institution …

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  • We don’t arrest adulterers in Barbados even though adultery does great harm to the “family units” we so love to talk about. In fact a good number of adulteres have and will in future receive our highewst national honors

    But we want to talk nonsense about arresting fully clothed dancing schoolgirls, most of whom judging form the video are minors?

    If we arrest them for dirty dancing now, when they grow up and perchance commit adultery against thier self important husbands, shall we execute them then?

    David I can’t be silent when alledgely intelligent people write foolishness.

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  • David I am horrified that Leroy Parris is still walking ’bout, free as a bird, while my school teacher friend (40 years in the workforce) cries in vain for her money.

    And MY Prime MInister Freundel Stuart tells us that Leroy Parris is his friend.

    THAT HORRIFIES ME.

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  • When will we realize that many of our children have lost all respect for us because they know that we are a bunch of old time frauds?

    When?

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  • @BAFBFP
    Bro it would not be good for your reputation if I was still in 3rdForm and still exposing your sometimes illogical rants. Be careful what you wish for.LOL

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  • @RT
    It was in my haste that I omitted qualification, it should have been to a significantly less extent.

    The Shafia case supports my point that the consequences of early illicit sexual activity is very severe in certain societies! Therefore logic dictates that teen sex outside of marriage is much lower in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia et al Muslim nations. Now that is NOT to suggest that marrying 9 yr old girls for sex does not occur and IMHO is very wrong!

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  • @Scout

    You should be charged under the laws of Slander, libel et al for suggesting in writing that BAFBFP went to HC! That maybe the gaffe of this millenium!

    Worse yet, is that the said BAFBFP did not accept that very generous accolade but we know he can be an ingrate! LOL

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  • @RT
    You state that older boys or adults must put their penises into a girl for her to become pregnant.

    NOT at all accurate since my wife is significantly older than I!
    The male has to be produce sperm with healthy, active swimmers!

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  • @Random

    You must have heard the CoP and his Deputy quoted in the news that their investigations are soon to be completed and a recommendation will be made shortly to the DPP. Why are you preempting the ‘process’?

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  • If Leroy Parris is the Prime Minister’s friend, then I feel sorry for Leroy Parris as he has a clown for a friend.

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  • Thanks for the correction moneybrain..
    David I ain’t preempting anything.
    We charge the Trade Confirmers people yet?
    We charge Walther Mathisen yet? Has he been convicted? Has he served his time? If he fled Barbaods, have we made any effort to get him back?
    And those two children wh drowned at Gibbes in Mehnert’s swimmming pool? We charge anybody yet, or do 2 dead working class infants not matter? Because that house was built in zone 1 long after the area was zoned 1. Have we ever asked how come that house/pool was built in zone one? Who gave permission to build? Do we want to know? Or are we happy ignoring corruption in government offices? And while we are asking David is Lucille Baird’s Church not located in zone 1, right above the “Bullseye” resorvoir? Who gave permission to put a church there? Or won’t we mind if holy shit escapes into our drinking water.
    As I said our children are bad behaved because they recognize us for what we truly are, not what we would like to pretend to be. Only in Barbados a country where serial fornicators and adulterers are given the highest national honors and where an old man seriously suggests that we send senior police officials into school halls so that we can charge school girls for receiving fully clothed jucks.
    And yet we know very well that when a school girl becomes pregnant, it is mostly by grown men, and not by the teenaged boys who gave her harmless jucks in the school hall.
    And if we are going to charge the juckee, what do we do with the jucker? And what do we do about the teachers who stand in locus parentis, and who clearly excercised a laspe of judgement, and failed to properly supervise their charges, and do we charge the person who made the videophotograph with making pornography, and do we charge David the blogger with disseminating pornography? And finally when will we start charging old men with terminal stupidity.

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  • Hi Random Thoughts,
    I did not make a comment here – this thread – about Clico, the mentally ill, domestic violence, violence in general, drugs and the list is endless because those topics were not in the thread. Wukking up “of a kind” by young children is and the impact the same is having on society….plain and simple.

    To include other transgressions not mentioned by me, as taking a hypocritical stance is to be disingenuous to the extreme, if it were not you Random Thoughts, I would not have bothered to reply, but you know of what you write.

    We must separate political affiliation from serious discussion as it often skews the argument. If I am outraged it is with the perpetrators of the act. It matters not where they were born, who their parents are, their position in society, their colour or their financial position or political bias,if any.

    That is a fault of some of us, we see misdeeds through a narrow focus of peripheral things and thus people are not guilty because of who they are, unfortunately that is at the “root” of Barbadian society.

    I can assure you Random Thoughts I am not against wukking up or young people enjoying themselves, but I am against a slow slide into moral decay that goes against what makes us a better people and leads to a more caring honest and decent society. If I am attacked for that stance, so be it.

    Ps. I take this position not from any Religious perspective but only because I believe it is the right thing to do. It has nothing to do with a BLP or DLP perspective it is greater than that, it started before those illustrious Political Parties and will last long after they are gone….it is what makes us what we are as human beings.

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  • Antz

    Oh shite man I ain’ stope laffiin’ yet … Oh God I got tears in my eyse .. can’ even se tp tpye straight . ha haha ha

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  • Sorry to say this video has showed me 2 disturbing facts.

    1) Children nowadays need to learn to dance as what they are doing is called “daggering” and not the traditional “wukking up “dance of most bajans.

    2)Some of the adults who posted regarding this video apparently have no idea of how children and adults are to conduct themselves.

    The latter is especially shameful as if the adults are unable to identify the differences between accepted and unaccepted conduct, pray tell how they are supposed to teach their children.

    In the end holding a girl and “stroking” her as if she was in a “popular” sexual position isn’t considered as dancing (especially when out of rhythm). I would like to see how many of you readers out there would like to walk into a class room and see your daughter being pushed up to a wall with a man who has half of his pants down and his boxers showing pounding away at her rear while she stands there with a big smile on her face. If you cant see something wrong with this, then you need the kind of help which I can’t offer you at present.

    I wish you all well!

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  • Quoting Yardbroom “We must separate political affiliation from serious discussion ”

    ???

    What political affiliation?

    I’ve never been affiliated with any political party. And if you have I’ve not noticed.

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  • Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15
    Dear David on December 1, 2011 at 9:26 PM you wrote “Next time BU will push it under the rug”
    I did not ask BU to push anything under the rug. My argument is that children as written in Proverbs are foolish. They were foolish 3,000 years ago when Proverbs was written, and they WILL still be foolish 3,000 years from now when all of us are dead and forgotten. Since we all acknowledge the foolishness of children, we as adults have a responsibility not to publicly shame them. Note that the Proverbs recommends that children be corrected, and a further reading of Proverbs will show that correction is best done by loving parents. In the abscence of loving parents, and since this event took place at school, the teachers who stand in loco parentis should have corrected the children; or asked the parents to come to the school to correct the children. We who have commented on this blog, do not know these children. We do not love them, and we have no effective or practical way of correcting them. We can only shame them in front of 7 billion people.
    Dear David: If these were your children who were dirty dancing I am sure that you would not have posted this video on the internet for all 7 billion people in the world to see. You as all loving parents do would have corrected your children privately. You certainly would not have wanted the police to arrest them as Yardbroom recommends.
    Dear David: The golden rule is still true “do unto other people’s children as you would have done unto your own children.”

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  • millertheanunnaki

    Random Thoughts | December 7, 2011 at 7:06 PM |
    “If these were your children who were dirty dancing I am sure that you would not have posted this video on the internet for all 7 billion people in the world to see.”

    What a random coincidence! 7 billion people on Earth so 7 billion people have access and use the internet. A Quantum leap of statistical correlation out of this world!
    Random Thoughts, if you knew what’s already out there in cyberspace and also right here in our adult yard you would ease up on the youngsters doing a bit of “dirty” dancing!

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  • Ok that 7 billion include those not yet born but who may at some time in teh future come across David’s BU.

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  • whats this stripper dance that everyone is doing?

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  • Beloved Rosemary. You save me from typing. I am one with you. oh. just in case no one has noticed, these are Sodom and Gomorrah dispensations of time, any and every thing goes in the Lost minds.

    Rosemary Parkinson | December 2, 2011 at 5:45 AM |

    There is no one to blame but ourselves. Strange behavioral influences have always been around. Time to take stock of what we are doing on this rock of ours instead of pointing fingers all the time and trying to put the blame on anyone but us. Not one of those children could be or would be mine…and if one was and I recognized it, that child would nevah see a party evah again until he/she became an adult with responsibility. There is not much more to say…except perhaps one thing…when I look at some of the comments above, and some comments on other blogs, I can see why this behaviour is taking place amongst our youth and further, during the celebration of our independence – a celebration that should be conducted with some form of decorum because of its symbolism which seems to be lost today…no problem with having fun and dancing but this is outrageously bad. And BU thanks for exposing (and do not pardon the pun!). Shame on all of us. Pure shame.

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  • Didnt you guys have any school days….. Yes its harmless fun….. I remember the school ‘jams’ at end of term, Christmas and/or Independence we had back in the day; and we did this same kind of thing (not going to overboard; yes I dont think this is too overboard)

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  • Lil whores in the making

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