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Submitted by Terence Blackett
bankHow Unlawful Bank Charges, Variable & Adjustable Interest Rates and the Practices of Corporate Bigotry and Institutional Prejudices Affect Black Businesses and Individuals?

A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining but wants it back the minute it rains – Mark Twain

Virtually all countries in the world operate on what is called the Private Debt Money System (PDMS) and what that basically means is that institutions like the (Bank of England & Federal Reserve) can just create money out of thin air. The money is then lent to commercial banks who in turn lend it to you and me at sometime extortionate rates of interest.

Sir Josiah Stamp (1920) then president and director of the Bank of England aptly said that: “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money and control credit, and with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from the bankers and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a better and happier world to live in.  But if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and to control credit.”

With [6] commercial banks in Barbados, [54] offshore banks and [14] licensed Trusts, Finance and Merchant banks – last year alone, commercial banks made over $50 million from consumers (which equates to $185.00 for every man, woman and child in Barbados) for everything from investment interest on deposits, bounced/returned cheques, exceeding overdraft limits and fees incurred, also insufficient funds / negative balance charges – all of these “red-ink” entries fuelling their number one source of income.

In 2007 while in Barbados, a business colleague who owns a major construction firm was having problems with his bank, First Caribbean, and asked me to write several letters on his behalf to those specific members of the institution with fiduciary responsibility for overseeing the legalities pertaining to corporate accounts.

After several hard-hitting pieces of correspondence, utilizing the penchant of the bank’s legal and contractual obligations to address my colleague’s concerns – we were granted an audience in their corporate offices in Rendezvous to discuss the matter. The bank finally conceded, settled and ameliorated to my colleague’s amazement.

Today banks in Barbados are still playing on people’s ignorance of the law and at the same time, a lack of transparency, non-disclosure and external accountability only adds to the perpetuation of the status quo.

A recent article in the Advocate Newspaper by Stephen Alleyne  only helps to highlight the quagmire that Black business people as well as individuals encounter as they seek redress to basic idiosyncratic problems created by banks who are frankly a law on to themselves. The bank’s procedural processes in regard to follow-up are truly pathetic. Business people and individuals suffer undue embarrassment, no explanations whatsoever for stupid cock-ups relating to unauthorized movement of monies from accounts and on the other hand, refusal to move monies from savings accounts to business accounts to offset payment of cheques to clients and suppliers which results in returned cheques (though authorized) incurring penalty charges to the individual or business.

It is not to say that monies are not available even when the bank has a signed letter authorizing transfer of funds when needed to supplement additional payments to existing business accounts (but certain White owned businesses receive preferential treatment in this regard). Regrettably, there is never any acknowledgment, apology or a remonstration from the bank in regards to its corporate inefficiencies, the lax way bank officers approach their jobs and its functions but more so the management’s lack lustre approach to genuine customer complaints and even an acceptable way of curtailing future episodes.

My Australian colleague, friend and “freedom fighter” Jim Wilson  drew my attention to the fact that banks who charge “variable interest rate loan contracts are invalid under Common Law”, which means in principle that for all those with adjustable rate mortgages, the bank can fluctuate your rate “willy-nilly” depending on how the wind is blowing in the marketplace and in the Common Law it is a violation based on “informed consent” rendering the contract fraudulent in Mr. Wilson’s words.

Another area of concern is the issue of unfair bank charges – these tariffs are in principle “Penalty Charges” which are irrecoverable at Common Law. The precedent for this was Dunlop Pneumatic Tyre Company Ltd v New Garage and Motor Company Ltd.[1915] AC79, along with Murray v Leisure Play [2005] EWCA Civ 963. It was held that a contractual party can only recover damages for an actual loss or liquidated losses. It is clear that these charges do not reflect any actual and/or real loss.

In the UK, under the terms of the Administration of Justice Act 1970, when a debtor has reasonable grounds to put an account into dispute, a creditor has to freeze all action on the account until such time that the dispute is resolved.

The Office of Fair Trading in London has looked at the way banks in the UK charge customers for their current account pricing, alongside a formal investigation into the fairness of charges for unauthorised overdrafts and returned items. The study did help the OFT to consider the current levels and incidences of the charges in the broader context of efficiency, transparency, value and consumer choice within personal current accounts. This has been the most wide-ranging study into personal banking to date – something the government of Barbados need to SERIOUSLY* address.

The law is plain: any charges banks levy on their customers must be proportional to the actual costs they incur.  The simple question is – does it really cost £35 to send an automated letter when someone’s gone 1p over the limit or for a bounced cheque which actually cost ONLY £2 to service as in the case of Barbados the cost is $60 when the actually cost to service that cheque is mere $5.

Banks in Barbados have been getting away with bureaucratic highway robbery for years – exploiting Black folks through monetary mechanisms which in some quarters borders on fraud. The looming crisis on the horizon is when suddenly out of thin air, inflation results in skyrocketing interest rates which will take most people’s variable or adjustable mortgages from 8% (which is frankly too high giving international interest rates stand at 0.5%) to double-digits which will push most monthly loans repayments beyond the reach of families who are already struggling to keep up their payments.

It cannot be ignored that class and colour contradictions still exist within the sphere of the banking system today in Barbados. According to Franz Fanon, “You are rich because you are white; you are white because you are rich. [1966] “We must recognize that ever since emancipation ‘Blacks’ have occupied the lowest positions of any biological group in the societies of the British Caribbean; and although there is no clearly drawn race or caste line in these areas, prominence and prestige, wealth and power, have historically been distributed in terms of light pigmentation.” [Smith, 1960]

So C.O.W. Williams et al will be treated with much greater sobriety than the [90] odd percentage of the population who are stigmatized because of entrenched socialization and values etched on our psyches eons ago by the whip of the “massa”.

Making sense of the duelling paradigms of money and exploitation is still a public policy debate even in the 21st century but in the words of Albert Jay Nock, “there are two methods, or means and only two, whereby man’s needs and desires can be satisfied. One is the production and exchange of wealth; this is the economic means. The other is the uncompensated appropriation of wealth produced by others; this is the political means.”


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91 responses to “Banks in Barbados”

  1. Mash Up & Buy Back Avatar
    Mash Up & Buy Back

    A truly enlightening piece of well researched,well written article.

    I hope that we get qualified bankers who will add to this discussion with some meaningful input.

    Why is there such a conspiracy of silence on this subject and a hands-off approach?

    Governments and indeed even this new DLP government has not addressed the serious public concerns raised by this writer EVEN IN THE LIGHT OF GROWING REVELATIONS ABOUT THE FRAUDULENT AND INEQUITABLE PRACTICES OF BANKS ALL OVER THE WORLD INCLUDING BARBADOS.

    Why isn’t this topic discussed more in the newspapers on radio call in shows,on the People’s Business – for this truly is the People’s business.

    Only former banker Harry Russel has from time to time taken on the banks in his columns in the Nation.

    Tony Marshall does not use his bully pulpit on radio talk shows to point out some of these dishonest practices by banks and to offer solutions.

    The time has long gone past for Banks to be seriously regulated in Barbados.

    With this economic crisis upon us banks mortgage rates should have been dropped to 5% or below like yesterday.

    Instead banks are seeking to induce new customers by offering lower lending rates but those customers who need it most – that is,those struggling to pay their mortgages – are still facing these high interest rates – with the only solution being the banks just willing to renegotiate the arrears thus keeping the clients in debt for a longer period.

    There needs to be a revolt by the people against the banks for their wicked practices and against their enablers the Governments and the Fair Trading Commission who allow them to continue these practices year after year unchallenged.


  2. Behind the scenes there are debt buyers and debt sellers targeting distressed homeowners in order to repossess their homes for unsecured loans.

    “Junk Debt Buyers” are collection agencies that purchase bad debt. They are working for themselves because they now “own” the debt. “Contingency” collection agencies work as agents for another company to collect a debt.
    Examples are Eversheds, Shoosmiths Solicitors and KPMG who work together and are in breach of human rights laws (namely Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.


  3. Disproportionate bank charges in unlawful and has been challenged via the Banking Ombudsman (but has dragged on for 3 years).

    Another banking scam is to debit your account immediately for transactions and to take a week to credit your account for deposits.


  4. Debt collectors bully clients illegally and often become abusive and threatening phoning clients up sveral times a day.

    http://gomestic.com/personal-finance/how-to-bully-a-debt-collector/

    http://www.anysubject.com/debt-collection-agency-fair-debt-collection-practice-act-fdcpa-debt-collection-services.asp

    Credit firms knowingly offer loans to people who can not afford the debt such as unemployed housewives, students etc
    They also rack up interest and charge extortionate fees for late payments and defaults.

  5. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    Now that David has identified who wrote this piece ( after it was up for a while),things finally fell into place,because I was saying that this writer wrote a beautiful piece but you did not get the sense that the person lived here and was able to draw on specific local banking practices.

    Good start though,now I will like some of those knowledgeable about the local banking system to submit their own articles which will have greater depth and specificity to the local situation and bring this argument more into the popular discussion.


  6. @Mash Up & Buy Back
    “Why is there such a conspiracy of silence on this subject and a hands-off approach?”

    GREAT QUESTION!!!

    Maybe your elected representatives and the boys mashing up the airwaves everyday with a bunch social issues can address this –

    Let’s face MU&BP, “MONEY” talks but Black folks do NOT* have the same attitude toward money as do those Bajan white folks…

    Could there be a problem here with us?


  7. @ KIKI
    “Examples are Eversheds, Shoosmiths Solicitors and KPMG who work together and are in breach of human rights laws (namely Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence….”

    Good point KIKI* – these bastards are worst than the “Vatican” guards standing at the gates of the financial institutions – safeguarding the skulduggery, the shenanigans and subterfuge which goes on year after year…

    Governments are virtually powerless over these institutions because of the complex nature (even worst than Secret Societies) where information is more sensitive than the custodians at MI5/6…

    Don’t you see when the banks are on the ropes – governments run in with our money to bailout these suckers…


  8. The subsequent scam is ‘Court fees’ and associated costs involved in sending out automated ‘legal’ letters.
    Lawyers accordingly drag out their involvement rinsing out costs for thousands.


  9. @Mash up

    We wait for comments and submissions from the BU family et al based in Barbados about the financial system. Thanks to TB for getting us rolling. We have touched on this industry in the past along with the credit unions. Does it have to do with a perceived complexity?

    Let us face it, if our regulators continue to struggle with competition in the other less rich sectors how can they have a hope with the mighty banks.


  10. BTW ‘Regulators’ are financed by the industry and toe the line for them.
    Their general procedure is to automatically close complaints which need to be raised again (and then again) at the next levels of regulation.
    There are no automatic rights except the right to fight for them.


  11. I am eagerly anticipating that someone in BIM* will have the balls to set a legal precedent and sue these EVIL* institutions over the issue of unfair bank charges…

    Individuals in the UK have claimed back to date – £5,587,551.00 from banks, everything from dodgy credit cards charges, charges on (what can only be described as fraudulent) loans, charges on overdrafts and lines of credits – the list is endless!!!

    MODERN-DAY USURY at diabolical levels…

    The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 No.2083 states that a term is unfair if it requires any consumer who fails to fulfill his obligation to pay a dis-proportionately high sum in compensation therefore allowing there’s argument for a control mechanism may be common sense, it is unfair and therefore not binding on consumers.

    The losses which could legitimately be recovered as actual losses the bank may charge the consumer. Such things could be; administrative costs (being everything is computerized that is hardly a high figure) and interest lost by having to pay out of bank funds to cover the items. Logically, the amount of interest lost would fluctuate dependent on the value of the transaction, thus the charge should be linked to the value.

    If the banks are right and the value of the transaction should have no link to the charge cost and the period overdrawn also has no effect then why do some banks such as charge a daily penalty for being overdrawn. Also to charge for bounced cheques and direct debits etc fluctuates depending on how much the transaction was worth.

    Often, people get fined by their banks because of the antiquated clearing system as you pay a cheque into your account to cover a transaction, but then still get fined because it didn’t clear in time.

    For the 4 working days it takes for a cheque to clear dates from the era of clerks reconciling accounts between banks manually during the Elizabethan era of quill pens and paper.

    In this day and age, when everything is done automatically, there is no way that 4 working days is any longer justifiable that the banks cartel has kept the clearing period at 4 working days to give them an excuse to earn interest on people money while it passes artificially slowly through the system…

  12. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    Terrence Blackett

    I Mash Up am sick and tired of those who we see holding leadership postions in this country.

    Why you may ask? – because they don’t and perhaps CAN’T lead.

    It seems to me every politician since Sir LLoyd erskine sandiford all rely on what seems to be unwilling to deal with the difficult issues.

    Sir lloyd had the balls and he determined – ‘If I perish I perish – I will do that which is necessary for barbados and so he had the 8% cut and stabilised the economy and protected the parity of the dollar.

    Owen arthur was master at that – to his peril eventually,and will be the same for david thompson if he is not careful.

    The issue of the local banking system is just one of the many important issues that needs addressing immediately.

    This society needs a complete overhaul and it needs some direction.

    Every year we speak about the same issues and as yet no political leader sees the need to address them.

    Didn’t the DLP say that they were going to implement legislation that will only allow the leasing of our land to non nationals?

    Any sign of that yet?

    What about the setting up of some forensic audits into the past government actions – all talk by the DLP in opposition,but nothing so far.

    Admittedly the got in on a rough deal with the economy in a bad shape partly becuase of the massive thieving by owen and his crew and the worldwide recession,but the public will at least feel some vindication if we see that our public dollars which were stolen,that some action is being taken against the perpetrators of this crime.

    Instead these BLP minister and their family and cronies living the sweet life – ‘la vida dolce’ while the average citizen struggling – right here on this lil 12 x 10 rock.


  13. Terence M. Blackett said:
    “Don’t you see when the banks are on the ropes – governments run in with our money to bailout these suckers…”
    +
    I don’t understand why institutions are
    protected by the tax paying public
    and real people are forced into penury


  14. @DAVID

    Again, thanks you so much for giving wings to a serious problem we have across the board…


  15. @MU&BB
    “Every year we speak about the same issues and as yet no political leader sees the need to address them….”

    So how can we move social action from BU* to the doorsteps of our politicians?

    OUT OF OUR SEATS AND INTO THE STREETS!!!

    OUT OF THE SUNDAY MORNING PEWS AND ON TO THE PAVEMENT!!!


  16. @ KIKI
    “I don’t understand why institutions are
    protected by the tax paying public
    and real people are forced into penury…”

    There’s been a GREAT* swindle going on in the banking system for donkey years but folks are either reluctant, recalcitrant or simply do NOT* have the balls when it comes to facing down the banks’ managers and the institutions as a whole, for fear of censure or reprimand…

    Since 2007 in the UK, proponents for fairer laws governing banking; greater transparency and of course, greater accountability has been the proverbial “thorn” in the lion’s paw…

    Barbados has not been exempt. To be totally frank, for those who think there is such a thing as a “LOCAL BANK” – think again!!!

    Your governments have sold you out long ago…. Try to unravel the complex web of secrecy surrounding who own what and what % – would be a job for the ‘Mission Impossible Team’…

    Look at the con that go on right before our very eyes:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-443600/The-great-bank-swindle-Undercover-investigation.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6470000/newsid_6473700/6473757.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2

    Where’s the investigative journalism in sunny ‘ole BARBADOS?


  17. One solution to stop the bad practices by these firms would be to prevent property foreclosures by institutions who do not hold the original loan notes for the property. Companies have been placing legal charges on homes for petty debts and unsecured loans, instigated by their own irresponsible lending practices.


  18. If we try to make this discussion relevant to Barbados, when there was the financial crisis last year the point made by bankers in Barbados was – lending institutions in Barbados own the charges on properties.

    Can someone advise how long Barbadians have to wait to have cheques cleared? Not sure that it is 4 days.


  19. It is 3 days …… and clear business days at that, “bank” holidays and weekends don’t count!!!

    They take this 3 days literally.

    …. and it doesn’t matter whether the cheque is a manager’s cheque from another bank or not!!

    I deposited a cheque on a Thursday to an account which was automatically to pay a credit card, due to be pulled on the following Monday at midnight.

    The cheque was from a different bank so I took the time on Sunday to do a “mini statement” at an ATM and saw the cheque had been paid from the acount …. got a printout too … just in case.

    When I got my credit card statement it showed that my account had not been debited and I owed about $300.00 in late charges.

    After I showed the mini statement I was told the charges would be reversed.

    It was explained to me that I should have deposited the cheque on the Wednesday, not the Thursday so I would have had the 3 clear business days!!

    I await my next credit card statement to see what will actually happen.

    I think it will be done ….. atleast I hope so.


  20. … the thing is I asked the cashier when I deposited the cheque on Thursday whether it would clear for the Monday midnight deadline and was told yes.

    Had I known just how literally the bank took the 3 days I would have deposited cash and avoided the expense of the time to straighten out matters!!


  21. Of course illegal charges forces you to keep staying overdrawn. Subsequent incoming transactions made on a single day are deliberately trickled on the books over separate days to maximise incurring further overdraft charges several times over.

    The Banks Treasury’s make bulk money by depositing your funds in overnight deposits.


  22. @Terence, You memtioned both (Bank of England and Federal Reserve), neither of which are owned by their respective Governments, contrary to popular belief, (You know this!) and the most apt quote from Sir Josiah Stamp!

    The Need for Monetary Reform.

    “The modern theory of the perpetuation of *debt* has drenced the earth with blood, and crushed its *inhabitants* under burdens ever accumulating.”
    -Thomas Jefferson.

    “Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to…provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands.”
    -Theodore Roosevely.

    “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has *owned* the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
    -Franklin D. Roosevelt (in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933).

    I realise the above quotes relate to the American economy; where The Federal Reserve, IS the fraud of the century, just look at the back of the US $1 dollar bill, the *ALL* seeing eye, where it is placed!

    Likewise, the Bank of England, is owned and controlled by the Rothschild banking dynasty!

    To what extent these fraudulent institutions exercise some degree of control over the Banks in B’dos, maybe you can enlighten us!

    Now, I’ve maintained that the BILLIONS of $$ in our local banking system, re deposits, term deposts, fixed deposits, etc, MUST be owned by the majority of Black working class Bajans, as is also true of the MILLIONS in the Credit Unions, BUT, the average black, does not like to venture out into buying shares and so on; if Blacks would come together, they could easily have bought B.S. & T, or even LOB, now Sagicor, rather they DO little or nothing with their collective *wealth* sitting in Banks and Credit Unions, so that other ‘ethnic’ groups, come in and are buying up these enterprises; even the ‘white’ Bajan, is still very conservative in this regard!

    Just a few thoughts!


  23. I’m not the best at saving money, so I tried to organise for monies to be transferred from 1 savings account to another(without an atm card), in the same bank on a monthly basis and was told this would cost $10.00 a month!

    I can understand a charge for a standing order from your bank to another establishment but within the bank itself I think it should be free or a nominal charge e.g.10 cents. At the end of the day the bank is still earning money from your money.

    Yes you could use other methods and do it yourself each month but you should not have to do that. It should be all part of the service.

    I suppose one solution is to vote with your feet and move the accounts to another bank, which I have done in the past but with only 6 commercial banks? I’ll soon run out of choice.


  24. A few more quotes, that speak volumes, on the massive deception of the fraudulent money system in the US!

    Voices from the past.

    “I sincerely believe…that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is swindling futurity on a large scale.”
    -Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816.

    “We are in danger of being overwhelmed with irredeemable paper, mere paper; representing not gold nor silver; NO SIR, representing nothing but broken promises, bad faith, bankrupt corporations, cheated creditors and a ruined people.”
    -Daniel Webster, speech to the U.S. Senate in 1833.

    “Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.”
    -James A. Garfield.

    “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”
    -Frederic Bastiat, “The Law”

    “The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is on in which complexity IS used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.”
    -John Kenneth Galbraith, “Money: Whence It Came, Where It Went,” 1975

    “Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money”
    -Daniel Webster.

    “Money power denounces, as public enemies, ALL who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes.”
    -William Jennings Bryan.

    “Money is the most important subject intellectual persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it is widely understood and its defects remedied very soon.”
    -Robert H. Hemphill, former credit manager, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

    “Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing.”
    -Ralph M. Hawtrey, former secretary of treasury, England.

    “Those who create and issue money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in the hollow of their hands, the destiny of the people.”
    -Rt.Hon. Reginald McKenna, former Chancellor of Exchequer, England.

    “Pape money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to RUIN commerce, OPPRESS the honest, and open the door to every species of FRAUD and injustice.” emphasis added.
    -George Washington, in letter to J. Bowen, Rhode Island, Jan, 9, 1787.

    “You are a DEN OF VIPERS and THIEVES. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”
    -Andrew Jackson, to a delegation of bankers discussing the Bank Renewal Bill, 1832. emphasis added.

    Read carefully what David Rockefeller admitted to.

    “For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-published incidents to attach the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interest of the United States, characterizing my family and me as *internationalists* and of conspiring with others around the world to buil a more integrated *global* political and economic structure- one world, If you will. If that’s the charge, I STAND GUILTY, and I AM PROUD OF IT.”
    -David Rockefeller, in his autobiography, “Memoirs” emphasis added.

    These wise men of the past, saw and understood exactly what was transpiring in the Banking system, a cartel of wicked, evil, men, all carefully planned and diligently executed, which ultimately came to ITS head, in the current *financial* crisis, for the express purpose of bringing down, to its knees, the American economy, to USHER in the One World Government, which IS well under way, right around the corner, and there IS NOTHING anyone can do do to STOP IT; all prophesied to unfold in God’s Word, the Bible!


  25. @ Pearl
    “I’m not the best at saving money, so I tried to organize for monies to be transferred from 1 savings account to another(without an ATM card), in the same bank on a monthly basis and was told this would cost $10.00 a month!”

    Pearl do you have internet banking?

    If so, then why not use the convenience of internet banking to move your money around at will without reliance upon (SOME)* bank staff who frankly do precious little while on the job…

    In the UK, this is what we do in the comforts of our homes and I am sure that facility is available in Barbados – if not, time to demand it!!!

  26. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    Kiki,Zoe and even Terrence – what happened in the U.S and U.K. while instructive is not the identical situation we have here.

    So cutting and pasting stories from these places will eventually lose their value as we are looking to identify OUR – read that – local bajan problems – and come up with the relevant LOCAL solutions appropriate for our small enviroment.


  27. MASH UP wrote:

    Sir lloyd had the balls and he determined – ‘If I perish I perish – I will do that which is necessary for barbados and so he had the 8% cut and stabilised the economy and protected the parity of the dollar.

    —————————–
    The former Prime Minister Sandiford gave away 33 million dollars to public servants as a result of the regrading exercise. A lot of DLP yardfowls including retired public servants benefitted from this largesse and that is what led to the problems we had and to the 8% cut.

    Dont get me vexxxx now !

    The former Prime Minister Sandiford put we in it.

    Dont try to fool people.

    It is like me digging a hole and pushing you in it and then giving you a rope to pull yourself out. Unnecessary in the beginning -could have been avoided.


  28. Pearl do you have internet banking?

    @Terence

    Check their websites, not all the banks in Barbados have Internet Banking. It seems stupid that intelligent Barbadians would not take the opportunity to use online banking and put pressure on those financial institutions refusing to bring that service.


  29. After a recent experience ,I am convinced that some of these credit card frauds are either originated or facilitated by some bank employees.


  30. @BU FAMILY

    THESE ARE TEMPLATE LETTERS OF DISPUTE THAT WE USE IN THE UK IN DEALING WITH THE BELOW MENTIONED:

    Send this to the Debt Agency or Bailiff Co; Letter to Debt Handlers

    Phone them first, explain that the account is now in dispute.

    Dear Sir/Madame,

    Account ref:

    I am writing to you following a telephone conversation on the (inset date) regarding the outstanding amount of $*****.

    I informed your operator that the amount owing on this account is now in dispute due to the recent events that have come to light with bank charges.

    The amount outstanding is made up of unlawful charges that are contrary to the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999. Schedule 2 (e) of the said regulations gives a non-complete list of terms, which may be regarded as unfair, such as a term that requires me as a consumer who fails in his obligation, to pay a disproportionately high sum in compensation.

    I believe that these charges are disproportionately high and therefore they are contrary to the Unfair Terms in Consumer Regulations 1999.

    In addition I believe that the charges are a Penalty. Penalty charges are irrecoverable at common law. The precedent for this was Dunlop Pneumatic Tyre Co Ltd v New Garage and Motor co Ltd [1915] AC 79.along with Murray v. Leisure play [2005] EWCA Civ 963 It was held that a contractual party can only recover damages for an actual loss or liquidated losses. It is clear that these charges do not reflect any actual and or real loss.

    Please be aware that this just does not relate to credit card companies but to any organization that levies disproportionately high charges for late payment, overdrawn or returned payments.

    It concerns me that after informing your operator that the whole amount is in dispute you are refusing to freeze any action or pass this account back to your client (Credit Card/bank name) I am also very concerned that despite me informing your operator I will now only conduct any further communication in writing and that I wish for you not to contact me by phone, your operator refused and told me that and I quote? Our initial reply will be by letter and should we not receive any contact from you we can and will ring you 3 times a day everyday until we actually speak to you.

    I will inform you now that the only form of communication I want from you must be done in writing and I will reply in writing. If you fail to adhere to my request then I will take it as an act of defiance and pursue this matter under the Administration of Justice Act 1970.

    I must make you aware that I believe you are already in breach of The Office of Fair Trading Code of Guidance in which it states:

    PUTTING PRESSURE ON DEBTORS OR THIRD PARTIES IS CONSIDERED TO BE OPPRESSIVE.

    This includes: Ignoring disputes about whether you owe the money, refusing to freeze action if you dispute the debt.

    Just for your information I will not be making anymore payments to yourself. Your client, (Credit Card/Bank name), will be receiving a Data Protection Act letter for all my bank statements for the period of (enter dates). I will be pursuing this further with (Credit Card/Bank Name)

    I hope to receive your full co-operation in this matter and I look forward to reading your written reply.

    Yours sincerely

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    If they still keep pressing you then send this.

    Dear Sir/Madame,

    I am writing to you regarding your letter dated (date of letter). On the (date of your letter) I sent you a letter regarding this matter, which I have enclosed another copy for your attention.

    Please be aware that a DPA request was handed into (Card/Bank name) on the (date of DPA letter). This now makes the amount of (?***) officially in dispute furthermore you will not be receiving any payments from myself.

    If I find that my first letter has been ignored and that this covering letter is also ignored then there is no doubt in my mind I will be pursuing this matter further.

    Please be aware that when a debt is in dispute it has either to be passed back to the origin or any further action halted. This will be my final letter to you.

    Failure to take heed of the contents of the letter I have sent you will be at your own cost.

    You will receive no further warnings.

    Yours faithfully

    Need more help? Just ask.

    Remember also…keep copies of everything!

    THESE TEMPLATES CAN BE REFORMATTED TO SUIT BARBADOS WITH THE RELEVANT COMMON LAW & STATUES…


  31. @BU FAMILY*

    Sample CPR letter
    ________________________________________
    WARNING

    THIS IS A REQUEST UNDER THE CIVIL PROCEDURES RULES

    PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE

    Date

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Account details and number:

    Thank you or your letter dated ………….., in which you have indicated that there is an imminent court action should I not respond to your letter.

    In your letter you have given notice that ………………..are preparing to initiate legal proceedings over the non-payment of the outstanding balance claimed to be due on the above account.

    Given that this matter is now subject to potential legal proceedings, you are obliged to provide (under the Civil Procedures Rules) information to ensure that all parties are on an equal footing, and also to ensure that the claim is dealt with expediently and fairly, avoiding an unnecessary burden to the court’s resources.

    Under the Pre-action Practice Directions – Protocols 4.6 of the Civil Procedures Rules – I request that you supply copies of the following documents:

    1) A true copy of the executed credit agreement and any terms and conditions that applied to the account at the time of default and at the time the account was opened. Please note that a “true copy” as defined by the Consumer Credit Act will not be acceptable in this case, and a copy of the actual executed agreement, including signature, is required.

    2) All records you hold on me relevant to this case, including but not limited to, the following:

    1. A transcript of all transactions, including charges, fees, interest, payments and both the amounts of credit and any repayments made to the account.
    2. Transcriptions of all telephone conversations recorded and any notes made in relation to telephone conversations.
    3. Where there has been any event in the account history over this period that has required manual intervention by any person, disclosure of any indication or notes that have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention, or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to the account held by me with ………………… is required.
    4. True copies of any notice of assignment and/or default notice or enforcement notice that you sent to me, with a copy of any proof of postage that you hold.
    5. Documents relating to any insurance added to the account, including the insurance contract and terms and conditions, date it was added and deleted (if applicable).
    6. Details of any collection charge added to the account; specifically, the date it was levied, the amount of the charge, a detailed financial breakdown of how the charge was calculated, and what the charge covers.
    7. Specific details of the fees/charges levied by any other agency in respect of this account and a detailed breakdown of said fees/charges and what each charge relates to and on what date said fees/charges were levied.
    8. A genuine copy of any notice of fair use of my data as required by the Data Protection Act 1998.
    9. A list of third party agencies to whom you have disclosed my personal data and a summary of the nature of the information you have disclosed.
    10. Copies of statements for the entire duration of the credit agreement.
    This information is required within the next fourteen days. I must advise you that if the information is not forthcoming, it will be reported to the Court that you are trying to deny me the opportunity to review my position in relation to your claim of alleged breach of agreement and any possible counter-claim.

    Please note that, as you have initiated this action, failure to respond to this letter will place this account in clear dispute and as such you may not:

    • demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you;
    • add any further interest or charges to the account;
    • pass/sell the account or outstanding balance to any third party;
    • register any information in respect of the account with any of the credit reference agencies; or
    • issue a default notice related to the account.

    Should you ignore any of the above I reserve the right for legal action for redress, and will show the court this letter.

    I will also report your actions to any authority that I see fit and will request that your suitability to hold a consumer credit license be reviewed.

    I look forward to hearing from you in due course.

    Yours faithfully,

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    This letter is also a TEMPLATE* that can be formatted according to the by-laws of Barbados, quoting the necessary COMMON LAW* and Statutes…. This is to be sent to any bank or institution that is trying to hang you out to dry….

    FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  32. Zoe……..”and there IS NOTHING anyone can do do to STOP IT; all prophesied to unfold in God’s Word, the Bible!” Another big ph-cking LIE from the mouth of a christian.

    This was not prophesied, this is all long term planning by the same zionists blood-letters. Let it be known that its the “zionists” who are at the helm of this cabal, who just want you to sit back and accept that this is bible prophecy. This is gotdamn EVIL. That’s what it is. They don’t care about laws, because they write the laws and they always change them to accommodate their evil deeds. They just want control of your money.

    Money was intended to be a servant but it has now become a master.

    Just watch how they don their yarmulkies, enter their sinogogues and chant their Kol Nidre on their yom kippur and then return for more blood and not a DAMN christian ever raise his voice against him. Instead they try to coerce you into believing the bull shit, that you can’t do anything about it.

    Watch some Arabs and Muslims fight back and what do you label them…Terrorist! When the biggest terrorist are the money-grubbers who are doing their utmost to terra-form this earth today.

    They will never be happy until this entire planet is under their dominion. They must have a spoon in every pot.

    And as usual Barbados will follow North America and the Britshit Empire. What a bunch of mental midgits!

    YOU CAN STOP IT. STOP COOPERATING WITH THEM.

    We have the power in the palm of our hands to bring down this shitstem!

    And contrary to what you zionist-loving-christians might think, there’s a movement afoot to bring this shit down.

    TO HELL WITH THE ZIONISTS BLOOD-SUCKERS AND THEIR CHRISTIAN MINIONS!


  33. @HOPI

    Please stay on message – man it’s a lovely Sunday morning and you ranting so early – have a freshly brewed cuppa’ coffee and take a chill pill…

    You guys have all week to throw “Bovine excrement” about the blog…

    Meantime – stay on message….

    Banks are taking all of us to the cleaners and we are busy fighting amongst ourselves while guys like COW Williams drinking their Johnny Walker Scotch and figuring out how to get over some more….

    C’mon BRUV*


  34. Now, I’ve maintained that the BILLIONS of $$ in our local banking system, re deposits, term deposts, fixed deposits, etc, MUST be owned by the majority of Black working class Bajans, as is also true of the MILLIONS in the Credit Unions, BUT, the average black, does not like to venture out into buying shares and so on; if Blacks would come together, they could easily have bought B.S. & T, or even LOB, now Sagicor, rather they DO little or nothing with their collective *wealth* sitting in Banks and Credit Unions, so that other ‘ethnic’ groups, come in and are buying up these enterprises; even the ‘white’ Bajan, is still very conservative in this regard!

    Again trying to make this discussion relevant to the Barbados scene.

    Barbadians could have purchased shares in the companies you mentioned but we must keep the big picture in focus. In Barbados the interlocking directorships in the top companies has been well discussed. The way business is done has to be systematically dismantled, planned. The old boys club will not relinquish easily.


  35. Some mishmash masquerading as cogent analysis in which the writer used race and class to bolster his argument. He is writing about Banks in Barbados like it is the 50’s or 60’s Last time I checked most of the executives at the Banks in Barbados were black and if one didn’t know it before, their primary objective is to increase their Corporation’s profit so that they can fatten their pay cheques and advance their careers. It has nothing to do with race or class.

    Two questions, how does the author know that “white firms’ receive preferential treatment relating to transfers from one account to the other when letters authorizing same are on file? Transfers made as a result of a letter of authorisation are manual entries which someone must process; don’t confuse employee nonchalance or incompetence for official Bank policy. Also, how did you arrive at the $5.00 fee to service a return cheque? What is that figure based on?

    As to the rate spread between deposits and loans, Banks will do what they can get away with, is there a Central Bank policy which regulate these spreads? If there isn’t perhaps the economists out there could pitch in about the effectiveness pro or con about such a rule. I look forward to his next revelation about the markup on food items and other imports in Barbados

    The case cited was about the returned cheques of Ms Sealy reeked of employee incompetence and arrogance which should never have reached the courts. Employee incompetence is part of the issue; a relative of mine recently attended a Bank in Barbados to retrieve a document which had been lodged there. For several weeks they denied having the document, after she produced a receipt voila –document located.

    The writer also tries to differentiate how the Banks would treat COW as opposed to how they would treat other clients. What planet is he living on? How do Banks or any Corporation treat their best customers? Sometime ago I attended an event in Toronto with some employees of a firm and was seated in a Bank’s corporate box- it sure beat sitting in the cheap seats.

    Lastly a few weeks ago the writer also wrote about the imminent collapse of the Bank of Montreal, the shares shot up the next day and continued for the next week. I should have bought some stock.

  36. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    Sargeant

    Agree with your analysis above.

    To make matters worse the writer insults our intelligence by copying and pasting a standard U.K. letter which refers to legislation and policies etc which have no bearing on Barbados.

    If he had just left it at the article and then worked on getting local information on the banking system here in barbados it would not have been so bad,because the article is well written.

    But now we seem to be drifting further and further into irrelevancy.

    I think the blog administrator may wish to consider getting back to doing their own articles with the occasional input from other members of the BU family.

    A little with content is great gain.


  37. @ Sargeant
    “Some mishmash masquerading as cogent analysis in which the writer used race and class to bolster his argument. He is writing about Banks in Barbados like it is the 50’s or 60’s… “Lastly a few weeks ago the writer also wrote about the imminent collapse of the Bank of Montreal, the shares shot up the next day and continued for the next week. I should have bought some stock…”

    Maybe you could explain to the BU family why the BOM did NOT* actually BOMB* after all and what mechanisms were put in place to assure the collapse of the bank… Please don’t withhold that information…

    I was sitting with banking “BIG-WIGS” lest than 2 years ago in BIM* over fraudulent and unethical behaviour by the vanguard of banking officers who (yes are Black folks) but who are the guardians of the White man interests…If you see how we have been brainwashed, my God, it is lamentable!!!

    The banks are not owned by wage earners – but by rich white hedge fund managers, wall street scum and a barrage of unscrupulous bastards who almost brought our global economy to the precipice of the abyss….

    Look at the Advocate news this morning – that should tell you who’s in control (if you believe all the spin):

    http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/todayspaper/default.asp

    Need I say more???


  38. @MU&BB
    “To make matters worse the writer insults our intelligence by copying and pasting a standard U.K. letter which refers to legislation and policies etc which have no bearing on Barbados…”

    Did you read the enclosed documents along with the sub-annotated headings and footers which “CLEARLY” stated that these letters were “TEMPLATES” used by 1000’s who have been fighting to reclaim creditability over banks and their goons who hassle and harass people into foreclosures, bankruptcies and County Court Judgments…

    These “templates” were issued in good faith as a guideline to be reformatted to suit the commercial environment of Barbados – something that was already clearly outlined!!!


  39. @Terrence B…………. you never cease to amaze me with your ‘altitude’…first you commence with the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve [from whence cometh ALL manner of evil] and then you try to hurl your bovine excrement at me. Aren’t you a hypocrite? ‘you people’ never cease to amaze me with your one dimensional mentality. What ever is done in the US or that Evil Empire will be done in Barbados. [Massa’s will be done].

    And while my use of this equivocal english tongue might be a little more acidic than most, I’m in no way fighting with you. That would be lost cause, because you are already save and sanctified and on your way to Glory!

    No bank is taking me to any cleaner. One tried to do that with me and I showed them which god they were serving. And, furthermore I just went and withdrew all paper funds from one of ’em because the FDIC just announed that they are running out of cash.

    More pillaging to come! I say to f them b4 they f u!


  40. @Sargeant
    “I look forward to his next revelation about the markup on food items and other imports in Barbados…”

    Thanks for the heads up on the next thread, dear boy!!!

    What I wonder is – “do you have poor family in Barbados that struggle to have a quality of life?

    And PLEASE* be honest!!!

    I know for the average person coming into Barbados from abroad, it looks as if everything is ‘peaches and cream’ but I do know for a fact that the reality on the ground is so much different…

    You see it is alright for those who have well-to-do family and for those with family who live abroad who can send the good ‘ole British £££ when it is trading at £3 & $4 , equally we can ship home barrels of food, clothing and accessories for parents and loved ones…

    But what about the POOR* who has to face Trimart*, JB’s, SuperCentre and cannot afford the little extras far less sometimes all the basic necessities…What about them?

    So if I am to glean anything from your statement – frankly, I have already deduced the kind of person you are…

    Sitting in the bank’s corporate box is the be all and end all for some of you folks….

    No wonder the country is in the mess it’s in!!!


  41. @HOPI
    “ou never cease to amaze me with your ‘altitude’…first you commence with the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve [from whence cometh ALL manner of evil]”

    Hey HOPI* – have I disagreed with you on this point???

    Are you deducing that I harbor warmth, fuzziness and ardor for either of these diabolical institutions?

    I stated “categorically” at the outset of this article that these bastards have been created “monies” out of thin air like David Blaine pulls a rabbit out of a hat…

    So yes – there is an “altitude” problem!!!

    Listen HOPI* – a minor correction based on mediocre spiritual infraction – “I am neither “save and sanctified and on your way to Glory!”

    Brother, I PRAY I MAKE IT IN!!!

    And on that note – I’m DONE!!!


  42. The current Global Economic Crisis, all well planned, is on stream to do what it IS intended to DO; bring IN One World Government; therefore, in light of the *PLIGHT* that little Bimshire is struggling with, a ‘small fry’ in the international scheme of things, while the suggestions re Banking reform legislation etc, etc, sounds good; IT will not get ‘feet’ as the present problems are far more the focus of this government; employment, inflation, and so on; which it can’t DO a dam about!

    How the Banks Create the World’s Money.

    “The growth of financial capitalism made possible a *centralization* of *world economic control* and a use of that power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect ‘injury’ to all other economic groups…

    “The powers of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching [plan] nothing less than to create a *world system* of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each *country* and THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE.”

    “This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by *secret* agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.”

    “The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks, which were themselves private corporations.”

    “Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasuary loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
    -Prof. Carroll Quigley, late Georgetown historian (mentioned by former President Clinton in his first nomination acceptance speech) from his book “Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in our Time”

    “He [Carroll Quigley] was one of the last great macro-historians who traced the development of civilization…with an awesome capability.” -Dr. Peter F. Krogh, Dean of the School of Foreign Service (Georgetown).

    Unfortunately, most people, including PM’s Bankers, economists, don’t have A CLUE what is really going on globally, and are trying so hard to ease the present crisis, by changing the ‘spark plugs’ in the engine, try a better Gas, nonsense, when the very *CRANKSHAFT* is falling apart at its CORE! And purposefully, intended to DO SO!


  43. @DAVID
    “Barbadians could have purchased shares in the companies you mentioned but we must keep the big picture in focus. In Barbados the interlocking directorships in the top companies has been well discussed. The way business is done has to be systematically dismantled, planned. The old boys club will not relinquish easily…”

    As a society, we do not want to face up to the facts that we are our own worst enemy…

    The historical legacy of slavery and servitude has left an indelible impression on the psyche of our people.

    We still have not learnt the lessons of UNITY* and “ONE ACCORD”…

    The power struggle for supremacy and the tug-o-war continues unabated with every man vying for his piece of turf…

    Is it no wonder that no true “CHARISMATIC” leader has arisen since “DIPPER THE SKIPPER” in Barbados (after over 40 years) and the massive vacuum remains in an island with such powerful potential….

    What a colossal waste!!!


  44. We keep coming to the same point. If a blog is submitted which has points to be challenged then do so. The BU household is not versed in everything which goes on, we sometimes do not have the time and we like reading the opinions of others.

    It is up to all the thousands of Barbadians who visit weekly and leave without comment to make a difference from what they have read.

    The submission above can be used to provoked discussion. It can be used to provoke research on our rights under the existing consumer and financial legislation. It can be used to just vent. We can do whatever we want OR we can continue to bicker and lose the opportunities we currently have to exchange ideas in fora such as this one.

    Barbados is a small place and we all know how business gets down in this place. The kind of relationships we build with our bankers are critical to how we gain success in business. We can continue to bicker about a fee, or a loan which we feel should have been approved, the meat is in how we get to make banking more transparent in Barbados. Who was it from the UWI in a paper a few years who stated there appears to be a trend of collusion between the banks over the years.


  45. Warning, shares can go down as well as up.

    Individual or Private Investors should always remember that share holdings are big risk exposures or gambles and should regularly sell their holdings to take profits, as an immediate short term investment strategy.

    Fund managers and investment banks invest millions to make a few thousand profit and can sell short when shares go down, they can also invest in other instruments such as institutional shares not available to the general public.


  46. @DAVID

    David is correct!!!

    We can bicker or we can find innovative ways to give this issue the wings it needs so that “Disclosure” and “Accountability” can work in everyone’s favour…

    @ZOE

    What about the age-old travesty of “WAR” fuelled by bankers playing both sides of the war efforts against one another while raking in the profits…

    Who profits from war?

    Ask the Rothschild’s & Rockefeller’s?

    Who are amongst the richest companies on earth – is it not the military defence contractors, i.e. Bombardier, BAE Systems, Lockheed Martin and all the rest them who are in the business of creating munitions for war, destruction and desolation…

    This is the broad remit of the god of “MAMMON”…

    Closer to home the issues no less simpler….


  47. Unfortunately a small market such as ours can be too risky for the small investor to dabble in safely.

    Inside information and nods to lodge brethren seem to matter more than directors soundly advising their shareholding employers.

    A classic case being the recent sale of BS&T.

    How come the chairman (knight and senator) recommends an initial offer at almost half the actual market price?

    I sincerely hope it was only an unwise judgment on his part, but it does indicate that even our captains of industry do not realise the value of the entities they are charged to direct.


  48. STEUPSEEEEEE !! no charismatic leader my foot !


  49. @TB……………You’re about done as a turkey! Just watch you eat back up that same bovine excrement.
    The Rothschild and Rockefellars are all zionists.

    How de hell Black People can learn of Unity and One Accord, when people like you think that you are superior to other Blacks? And that the only solution can come from those who created the problem?

    Why de hell should a bank in Barbados be transparent to ya average joe?

    You people know what the problem is, yet you just wanna sit to hell down and debate…….to prove what? That you too can debate about shite?

    No banker is gonna change their rules because a bunch of run-of-de-mill bajans complain. They don’t answer to you. The only way they’ll be transparent is when you stop bullshitting yaselves and tek ya money and walk.

    Go set up your own Black-owned and operated Bank for BLACKS only.

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