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Click to read 6 month review 2009

Given the plethora of utterances flooding the various media, if our survival depends on the understanding of the socio-economic dynamics of the country then we are in deep trouble. It would appear that we understand little about the country and less about how the real world spins. We appear to be lacking in ideas, have a blurred image of reality and terribly short on philosophical contemplation. Here Cave Hill comes into view.

The influx of 40,000 plus foreign residents, mainly European, radically alters the socio-economic dynamics but we don’t even have an up-to-date manpower study, which means a) that analyses based on the old study will likely be way off the mark, b) social science and marketing grads will know little about the country in which they will likely work.

I raised this issue on a couple of occasions in the past and was told that it is a “teaching institution.” True but even private institutions engage in ongoing research. Except for a handful of ISER papers there is a woeful absence of even descriptive data. And much of our history appears to focus around race and colonialism. Chances are few know anything about Drax Hall, Locust Hall, Fortesque, Holborn, Holland Bay or Jew Street. It says a lot when Cricket Management takes precedence over the socio-economic and psychological dynamics of the country. Would the other cricketing nations send personnel to us for training? The money would have been better spent on a manpower study and books for the library.

The current Central Bank Governor is reported to have said that “the Island’s financial system and overall economy were not in crisis…and even though 2009 will be a challenging year the system here had certain ‘buffers’ to safeguard the island’s economic fortunes.” This after the Standard and Poor down-grade. I suspect the above was in support of an earlier statement to the effect that apart from tourism and construction which were in decline, the rest of the economy would weather the storm. I accept that the major foreign owned commercial banks are liquid and not in crisis. The Canadian ones have already been or will be stimulated when necessary and can so afford the luxury of restricting credit. But do the banks alone constitute the ‘Island’s financial system?” If not then we need to identify the other system components. The ‘buffers,’ whatever they are, also need to be explained. If external funding (loans) is one of the safeguarding buffers then the pit will be deeper. There are no barley loaves. The carefully crafted IMF and other reports and projections suggest that the buffers are at best ineffective and a less than optimistic outlook.

The goodly Lady is correct in suggesting that the word crisis “is probably not appropriate to the Barbados landscape at this time.” Ongoing or Deepening crisis would have been much more appropriate. All told one should not be too hard on the Lady whose hands, like those of the gentleman currently in the hot seat are tied.

The same cannot be said for one Courtney Blackman who had the temerity to announce that “the effect of the crash should be minimal in Barbados.” (Nation 3/5/09). And extreme case of utter folly, to put it mildly, passing for wisdom, intellect, knowledge and integrity. It is incredible that a supposedly eminent economist and former Central Bank Governor should even venture to make such a statement. Among other things it says a lot about the competence and effectiveness of the last regime. An economist with an open, inquiring mind would have caught on to the fact that a) we were in crisis before 2007, b) we have precious little with which to foster economic growth, revenue generation and to facilitate debt service, c) the impact of the global financial crisis would be severe, and would continue long after the global recession ends.

He also added that Barbados “had never completely embraced the model that posited that the market should dictate.” Well, do we or did we ever have a choice? Has any country in the embrace of the IMF a choice? Remember Adam Smith’s “invisible hand and the competitive market setting the “natural price.” Economic liberalism (free market capitalism) may not support a market economy without supporting free trade, but it demands that the market should dictate. The Good Book warned against listening to those prophets who “speak a vision of their own heart.”

The Central Bank Report comes with limited data and in a way reminds one of “convenient accounting.” It gives the impression that the economy is not in very deep trouble. There is no mention of the debt or deficit both of which will grow; and almost nothing about the saving rate, employment, revenue generation or the gross domestic product. There is no mention of deficit spending, much of which has been and will be on non-revenue generating projects. To raise money government must sell bonds, raise taxes, or borrow more.

Here it should be noted that our foreign reserves deemed ‘sufficiently adequate” today will be inadequate tomorrow. The old practice borrowing to shore up reserves, spending the money on largely non- revenue generating projects and borrowing again suggests non-sustainability and insufficiency, which is underscored by the need to borrow yet another $80m or so. The borrowed money is neither a gift nor a donation. It has to be repaid and comes with strings attached (obligatory conditions). Ditto for financial support from the IMF and or the World Bank. For one thing allocations will be curtailed to those countries that “borrow at non-concessional terms from commercial or new sovereign lenders.” Note too that President Obama at the Caribbean Summit never really got beyond offering assistance to fight the drug trade.

That retail price inflation has subsided due to falling oil and commodity prices tells us nothing about consumer prices period. People everywhere are spending less but, sales notwithstanding, retail food prices are on the rise and supermarket chains are reporting good profits. Are we to understand that consumer prices have or are falling? Huge markets are normally the beneficiaries of falling oil and commodity prices. Oil prices will rise if only because demand will exceed supply, commodity prices will rise and so to retail price inflation on the island. Local demand is too minimal to affect import prices.

All told the Report is on the vague side and unlikely to generate public confidence. Reading between the lines it suggests a protracted period of privation The IMF projected the volume of goods and services trade to fall by 12.0 % in 2009 in spite of the buoyant stock and currency markets, and the world trade picture remains bleak of 2010. This suggests that prosperity for us is somewhere in the distant future. With credit restricted and no barley loaves in sight the debt will rise and people may have to settle for a pay-cut just to survive.


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  1. @Veritas
    May I humbly disagree with your assessment of the issues raised as ‘non-data’ issue?
    There was indeed a time when we could ‘go with instincts’ and EWB and Peter Morgan among others did well in this regard.
    In this century however, the level of competition is such that only the most accurate, data-based, real time analysis is good enough for effective management direction in serious organisations.

    By data issue therefore, Bush Tea is referring to the need for accurate, realtime, context-meaningful assessment of critical data, with the aim of deducing the most accurate and reliable projections for future management action, policies and decisions.

    By the way
    …you made some statements that could easily lead to war with the Bushman …LOL
    – put three or four bright Bajans in a room and those issues can all be solved (surely you jest…ROTFL).
    -You don’t need “data” to know what works for our tourism. (The only way that you can KNOW is through data)
    -…and finally, if Peter Morgan or even my hero EWB were alive and kicking in 2009, they would be about as effective as the west Indies cricket team is today…
    …times have changed Veritas ….-DRASTICALLY!!
    ….even the mighty Obama is beginning to realize that great leadership is not to be sneezed at…

  2. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Veritas/Bush Tea
    Aware of my lightning rod status, I wont exlicitly align myself to your arguments.

    Whose instincts are best? The best may not be the one people want to follow. Then where are you?

    One can do ‘seat of the pants’ and often be right or not far wrong, but it leaves few guide posts for others when our pants are worn out. Data and methodology are good and highlighting where one should go.

    Tourism is a great example of what lack of data can do. We cannot get an answer about the net financial effect of tourism. So people work on the presumption that it’s positive, whereas it could be a drain. Put otherwise, it could be an economic killer to keep building the sector.

    Taking the adage that it’s not what you learn but how you apply what you learn. Data help you avoid going in bad directions or accelerate movements in good directions. Try driving a car with no speedometer, just having a rough idea of speed. You are content but you can then give little to others except vague notions. It’s easy to figure out when you will have travelled 1000km driving at 50km/hour; but you hazard a guess otherwise. That may be alright but it’s 2nd best. At its worst you end up with very choppy implementation. As you pass sign posts you realise that you are behind schedule and try to speed up but you could be fighting a losing battle. That is avoidable (less costly) with good information.

    I hope the examples help.


  3. Livin’ in Babadas tipped tah be de nex’ Central Bank Govna…!

    AAAAAAAAAAAGhhhhhhhhhhhh

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    livinginbarbados

    @Gear Box
    Sorry to disappoint and it’s strange how some news does not travel but a certain former Deputy Governor has been already nominated and accepted, and is due to take up post in October. Now, a Governor needs advisors…and we were both IMF staffers and…Who knows what the future may bring?

    Life can have new meaning.


  5. Wait a foreigner as head of CBC.

    A foreigner as head of QEH.

    A foreigner as head of the Central Bank.

    I’ve been paying to educate Barbadians since 1971. And yet none of them are good enough to head CBC, the QEH, the Central Bank?

    Where did my money go?


  6. Bush Tea tipped to advise Central Bank Board

    AAAAAAAAAGhhhhhhhhh

  7. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @J
    I think you jumped too far and too fast. The Gov is already nominated and he accepted and is Bajan and very proud of it. The only non-Bajan I am aware of at the central bank is Dr. Daniel Boamah, the Research Director. Now, whether you have the best available by having mainly Bajans is another issue.

    FYI, the Bank of England used to be Britons only; but had to relax that with EU membership. The US Fed has non Americans. Many central banks have or have had top management who are non nationals. Again, the UK just got an American. Cross fertilisation is good. So is mobility of labour in certain circumstances.

    There was even talk of Margaret Thatcher offering herself to be head of state/PM in various countries after she ceased to be PM in Britain.


  8. Wid Caribbean Single Economy de Central Bank gun be door nail dead…!
    AAAAAAAAghhhhhhhhhhhh

  9. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    People with degrees already have freedom of movement under the Treaty of Chagar

    Central banks in the region have ‘lost’ staff over several years, eg to the IMF, World Bank, IADB. But, many have returned with more experience and at higher levels (eg Ewart Williams/Gov CB of TT; Delisle Worrell/Gov designate CB Barbados; Alvin Hilaire/Dir. Research CB TT). Others have continued to make their rounds as their skills and interests allow (eg Arnold McIntyre, ex CDB, now IMF resident representative Ghana, soon to return and work on Caribbean issues, I understand). Some have gone on to wider fields (eg Winston Cox–Commonwealth Secretariat (we worked together in Sierra Leone), IMF consultant (working with me), now IADB Alternate Director/Advisor to Govt of Barbados). And more.

    Staff go to the IMF and Bank of England (I’ve taught them at both places) and Bank for International Settlements for training and return to the region with better skills and experience.

    The art of juggling is not to hold on to the balls. if you do, you will only hold two and the rest will fall. Learn to appreciate that movement is a good thing. Otherwise, you get ossified staff and people stuck when they should have moved.

    People need to be tested in the hardest of circumstances and learn that there are common problems that have been seen and dealt with. Lack of movement/exposure tends to lead to reinvention of the wheel and/or repeating mistakes others have avoided.

  10. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    s/b Treaty of Chaguaramas

  11. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    “The influx of 40,000 plus foreign residents, mainly European…”[Can you put that figure against those used by LHolder in his cost benefit analysis? There’s a tension, if he assumes 30,000 Caricom nationals.]

    I understand from some closer to the student activities at UWI Cave Hill that several problems are worth looking at:
    1. Tendency for Bajan students to not want to got to Jamaica or Trinidad
    2. If they leave for other UWI campuses, they tend to stay on campus and then flock back to Barbados every vacation time.
    3. Looking at recent headlines on Scholarships. A doctor asked “How many of those listed as going to do medicine will study it?”
    4. Does anyone track what Bajan students are doing post secondary school and what the re-entry needs will be in terms of jobs sought?
    5. Why has the sense of one UWI apparently been lost?

    I’ve made my points before about the general lack of contribution from UWI academics on matters of national importance. I wont repeat them here.


  12. Not of course that I have anything against the good people of Trinidad (hi many. many, cousins, and in-laws), Jamiaca (hi in-laws) St. Lucia etc. (hi in-laws)

    My continuing observations have been that Bajan students (finances permitting) are only too happy to study over in way in Jamaica, Trinidad, and in the great white north.


  13. Arnold McIntyre’s wife look like de Firs’ Lady ah Babados

    AAAAAAAAAGhhhhhhhhhhh


  14. So wait Gear Box….
    You tipping Bush Tea to advise the Board of a Central bank …that going be ‘door nail dead’?!?
    …my man, bush tea could only help the living…
    Anyhow, the Caribbean Single Economy going dead long before the Central Bank.


  15. BT:

    “Anyhow, the Caribbean Single Economy going dead long before the Central Bank.”

    It might be a close run thing which entity dies first if DJ is angling for a berry at CB.

    From his twitterings he’d just love to short our currency into the ground, not that it would be such hard thing to do.

    But for an independent Forex trader should that raise conflicts of interest issues?


  16. A point which BU has made to LIB many times is the need to understand the Barbadian way. There are a couple guiding principles which Barbadians will not compromise on, i.e. a)running to the IMF to participate in surveillance programs and b)devaluing the Barbados dollar. The success which Barbados has had defending the two positions over the years has created a confidence in our people. It  has fed the monetary model which continues to work for Barbadians. We should add it is a model which many countries envy.

    The politician who seeks to depart from this model does so at his peril.


  17. Arnold McIntyre’s wife look like de Firs’ Lady ah Babados
    ______

    Dem is sisters yah clown!! lol


  18. Tourism is a great example of what lack of data can do. We cannot get an answer about the net financial effect of tourism. So people work on the presumption that it’s positive, whereas it could be a drain. Put otherwise, it could be an economic killer to keep building the sector.
    _____

    Didnt I hear David Thompson make that point in his last Press Conference? The same man LIB say mashing up Barbados?


  19. @ ST
    “it might be a close run thing which entity dies first if DJ is angling for a berry at CB.”
    ************************************
    The really frightening thing is that, were it not for these blogs, he may well have succeeded…

    Bush Tea suspects that it has become known in some international circles exactly how gullible we Bajans are; and how easily taken in we are with the ‘accented’ among us.

    Our traditional deference to strangers coming here with hifalluting credentials, sweet mouth and especially from Hingland is well documented.

    DJ clearly had a plan that went beyond just ‘living in Barbados.’

    In the old days, (before BU), such a multi-talented, multi skilled, well traveled, genius (ROTFL) would have been quickly appointed to some influential post, and been running some important aspect of our economy into the ground by now.

    Unfortunately for him,BU is merciless in detecting the male bovine stuff, and his propensity in that regard appears to be boundless.

    As a result, we can all see that his likely effectiveness in guiding economic policy bout here is just about on par with Gear box’s (…although GB is way more creative)

    …come to think of it, somebody owes BU/ David a lot, for this outstanding service to the country….


  20. Bush Tea, I wid you. You hear he after the Budget? He aint know one sh..e bout what going in Barbados and talking like a hot potato in he mout! Not a word on he blog bout what happening in other Caribbean countries and how it would affect us. He fah real? He went Dominica and all he know bout is rabbits and food.

  21. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ David // August 17, 2009 at 7:58 PM
    “A point which BU has made to LIB many times is the need to understand the Barbadian way. There are a couple guiding principles which Barbadians will not compromise on, i.e. a)running to the IMF to participate in surveillance programs and b)devaluing the Barbados dollar. The success which Barbados has had defending the two positions over the years has created a confidence in our people. It has fed the monetary model which continues to work for Barbadians. We should add it is a model which many countries envy.

    The politician who seeks to depart from this model does so at his peril.”[Every country has ‘its’ way. What you say suggests that you have bound your government to a set of positions that could be your own downfall. It implies that the value of the exchange rate is at perfect equilibrium, yet there are major economic actors who have argued that it is some 20% percent overvalued and hurting them. Without being pedantic, ‘surveillance’ is what all IMF members are obliged to undergo (Article IV). I think you mean a borrowing program (eg, standby arrangement).

    But, what you say is that whatever the external financing need of Barbados it will never go to the IMF to borrow….and it wont move the exchange rate. Then you are trapped, and something else must give.

  22. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ESSO
    I’m not sure if you are saying that I have figured out the economic problem or not. If so, should I claim that I said it first?

    I have not been to or heard any press conferences by the PM–sorry, been doing other things.

    Can you give me the source of your remarks? I’d love to correct, if possible.

  23. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Straight Talk
    “From his twitterings he’d just love to short our currency into the ground, not that it would be such hard thing to do.”[I’m not sure if you understand FX markets; I think not. The market is huge–about 4 trillions of US dollars equivalent a day. Do you really understand what it means to short a currency into the ground? Or is this buzz word play? Currencies trade in pairs: being short one, means being long another. Currencies rarely move in one direction only for very long; they oscillate. If a currency is to be shorted (ie sold) successfully then the market must believe that its value should fall. The trend is your friend.

    Central banks buy and sell their currencies for a range of reasons including to keep the overall value stable: see recent actions by the Swiss National Bank, and reported actions by the Reserve Bank of Australia.

    I’m no official at the CB of Barbados (and no desire to be one), so why speculate about conflicts of interest–and the currency is not even tradeable (you have a bunch of capital controls constraining currency flows)?


  24. Had this debate since 1991? What’s new? That is the Bajan way. We underwent a reversal of a deficit of 9% of GDP to stick to what we believed in.

    The real problem with some Caribbean countries is that they have no confidence in anything because everything is up for barter. Boom and bust. A successful country has to have some things it believes in and that is what, to my mind, make us unique.

    The LIB formulas have been trotted out ad nauseam by persons who know more and less than him.

    Bajans will fight for what they believe in. We could win or lose, but we will fight.

    What do some other Caribbean peoples have to fight for? That is the failure of their leadership.


  25. @LIB

    A country which does not have a thriving export sector why would Barbados not want to have foreign exchange controls? We saw what happened when Jamaica remove the controls the free fall which followed. Our best Central Bankers, Sir Courtney et al all caution against 100% removal of controls.

    Why should Barbados go with your recommendation?


  26. livinginbarbados // August 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    I’ve made my points before about the general lack of contribution from UWI academics on matters of national importance. I wont repeat them here.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    One possible reason this may be so is because many of the UWI academics may not be Barbadian and may not have the same interest in speaking out as a Bajan would have on matters of National importance.

    Then again remember what happened to Ralph Gonsalves, a UWI academic who regularly used to speak out!!

    …. and if you were a Guyanese academic at UWI would you be making a whole set of noise right now …. particularly if your accent marked you as Guyanese and your field of speciality was in the social sciences?

    Certainly if you look at the threats and foul mouthings directed at Adrain Loveridge, not a UWI academic but just a man who is not afraid to say what he thinks, a UWI academic, or for that matter anyone might just keep quiet. Why bother!!

    Maybe there is some merit to what Peter Wickham claims ….. that Bajans are xenophobic …… BTW, is he a UWI academic?

    The truth is that Barbadian society does not encourage thought or speech that is too independent so anybody would think twice about raising his/her voice on any matter, be it of National importance or not.

    …. and therein lies the success of the blogs.

  27. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David
    “A country which does not have a thriving export sector why would Barbados not want to have foreign exchange controls?”[I’m not sure what you call the export sector–there are several elements to it. But, your statement implies a lot about the past performance of tourism.] ”

    We saw what happened when Jamaica remove the controls the free fall which followed.”[It’s not the removal that is the problem but what you have by way of defence. If you do have not enough reserves to defend a rate then you need to think carefully about the scope and timing of the removal. That is consistent with “Our best Central Bankers, Sir Courtney et al all caution against 100% removal of controls.”]

    “Why should Barbados go with your recommendation?”[I made no recommendation: I said the country was trapped and that something else (other than the fixed exchange rate) has to give.]

  28. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David
    Take a look (or have someone else do it) at Capital Controls: Country Experiences with Their Use and Liberalization, http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/op/op190/index.htm


  29. Bush Tea wrote “uch a multi-talented, multi skilled, well traveled, genius (ROTFL) would have been quickly appointed to some influential post, and been running some important aspect of our economy into the ground by now.”

    Stop it man!!! Ya killin’ me.


  30. living in Barbados wrote “1. Tendency for Bajan students to not want to got to Jamaica or Trinidad

    J replies: Bajans youngsters are not used to the kind of violence that Jamaicans and Trinidadians seem to take for granted.

    2. If they leave for other UWI campuses, they tend to stay on campus and then flock back to Barbados every vacation time.

    Bajan youngsters are not used to the kind of violence that Jamaicans and Trinidadians take for granted. They may feel that on-campus is the only safe place. They flock back to Barbados because Barbados is home sweet home. They like living in a place where they can sleep naked with the windows open (and so do you living in Barbados) otherwise what is your unemployed (or under employed) self still doing in Barbados these past many months?

    It strikes me that you may jealous that Bajans parents, grandparents and great grand parents have created a place in our young people like to live (and in which living in Barbados likes to live)


  31. @John

    Nice point but I have to wonder. Ralph and Neville Duncan. There were more like Samuels, Pat Emmanuel and to a lesser extent Clive Thomas from UG.

    These guys enjoyed a level of reception from the Barbadian public and at some points in time were the vocal opposition to government, completely overshadowing the BLP.

    The only observation I would make is that these fellas had some good Bajan backing like Farley Brathwaite, George Belle and the likes. Gonsalves problem was that he messed with the PM at the time…

    But except for Andrew Downes every once in a while, hardly anything else Bajan comes out of Cave Hill.

  32. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @J, the logic for 1 cannot also apply to 2. The presence of guard dogs, gated communities, security guarded residences and stores, calls for more police presence in some areas suggest that things may not be as safe as you believe.


  33. LIB
    I BLBH …Barely Livin’ ‘Bout Hey…
    AAAAAAAAAAGhhhhhhhhh


  34. ROK

    Just to use some of the lingo used in the J/LIB exchange, if you look carefully at Cave Hill as you pass you will see it is a gated community with security guarded residences and stores.

    It is surrounded by a razor wire fence, estimate its height.

    True, no guard dogs and I don’t hear calls for more police presence but the next generation (supposedly our decision makers) is becoming acustomed to the concept of the gated community.

    Things change over time, bit by bit, but they change ….. for better ….. and for worse.

    Sometimes we don’t even notice.

    It is said if you put a crapaud in water and slowly bring it to the boil the crapaud will not notice.

    But if you throw him in when the water is boiling he will protest vehemently.

    I have never tried this myself and don’t know if it is true and if it works for all species of crapauds but if it is said and repeated and nobody contradicts it …… all the same, perhaps they never tried it either …. so this may be a bad example.

    Whether Ralph Gonsalves messed with the PM or not, it is expected that academics will be different.

    Should not matter.

    … and do you hear any young Guyanese academics in Barbados taking up the cause of regional integration and movement of people?

    It is only the old salts like Ricky Singh and Sir Sridath who have something to say.

    I may not agree with them but that is not the issue, we are not hearing young Guyanese having anyhing to say.

    Come to think of it I reckon Guyana can’t be a society where too much noise is tolerated and people are accustomed to keeping quiet and accepting the status quo.

    Death squads …… in the Caribbean ….. Who ever heard of this before?

    The physical deterrents mentioned at the beginning of this contribution indicate an element of fear, perhaps you might argue caution …. but for the generation of students and faculty who make UWI what it is, I would imagine they are fully aware that personal safety is a far bigger issue than in the past .

    It should not be so. It says we are doing something wrong.

    So why attract attention to yourself by taking an unpopular road just because your instincts, training and research tell you so?

    It is simpler to keep quiet and just do your job,

    …. and if you aren’t Bajan, this is particularly true.

    It may be that when the people who mouth, of in many cases out of ignorance and with no facts are through talking, they will keep quiet!!!

    … my guess is that’s what many Jews felt in Germany and Rwandans in Rwanda.

    We gotta be careful with our thoughts because our words are betraying them!!

    Maybe that is all Peter Wickham is trying to say.

    Read some of the words being muttered on the blogs, don’t look at who is saying them, just read them and think how they could be interpreted.

  35. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @J
    “They may feel that on-campus is the only safe place.”[Crime exists on campus; check the papers. I do not know if UWI keeps statistics for each campus.]
    “They flock back to Barbados because Barbados is home sweet home.”[That makes sense]
    “They like living in a place where they can sleep naked with the windows open (and so do you living in Barbados)”[Almost all the rental homes I saw–Atlantic Shores, west coast, south coast–had at least bars on their windows, so sleeping with the window open is not such a risky proposition. Maybe that only covers part of the island, but it suggests at least that a fear of crime exists, maybe directed more at foreigners/visitors. The newspapers report some crimes. Anecdotal reports tell of crimes in hotels, in rental homes and in owner-occupied homes in Barbados. The island is far from crime-free. See what the US government puts out, http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1022.html#crime
    “Crime in Barbados is characterized primarily by petty theft and street crime. Incidents of violent crime, including rape, do occur. Visitors should be especially vigilant on the beaches at night. Recently tourists have been targeted during daylight hours on isolated beaches such as Long Beach in Christ Church Parish and Maycocks Beach in St. Lucy Parish. Visitors should avoid these beaches or exercise caution if visiting these and other isolated beaches alone or in small groups. Visitors should always secure valuables in a hotel safe, and should always lock and secure hotel room and rental home doors and windows.” So travelers to the island are put on alert–of course, the crime problem is less than in Jamaica and Trinidad, but do not suggest that just by coming back to Barbados the students are safe.


  36. Wait..Rihanna Fenty and Arnold McIntyre’s wife is sisters den…! I feel she should sing somet’ing ’bout dese IMF people dat mekkin’ a come back all of a sudden…
    AAAAAAAAAGhhhhhhhhh


  37. @LIB
    You really need some kind of work…


  38. Dear living in Barbados:

    If you will read a little further you will see that U.S. government reports read almost the same for all countries. They are boiler plate alerts to prevent otherwise sensible people from engaging in silliness when abroad.

    It cannot be countered that Jamaica’s murder rate is 10 times that of Barbados, yes even taking population into account. When my Little Johhny was due to return to Barbados from Mona a nice brown skinned uptown upper middle class Jamaican family was horrified that he would want to return to this small island and tried to persuade him to make his future in Jamaica. Even while 80% of his Jamaican classmates were planning to migrate to greener pastures in the great white north. This Jamaican family like so many well educated, wealthy Jamaican families, had never visited Barbados or anywhere in the Eastern Caribbean, and so in truth knew NOTHING about Barbados. Little Johhny is doing very well living in Barbados.

    Sometimes tenants are afraid and they ask landlords to put lots of steel on the windows. I had to do that myself recently when a tenant who is afraid of her own shadow asked to have steel put on every window. The house was built on that spot in 1951, has never had steel bars or any security system at all (except good neighbors, very, very good neighbors) and has NEVER been burglarized, but the tenan is afraid of her own shadow and is afraid of assorted, imaginary boogey men; but hey she does pay the rent in full and on time, so she gets whatever she asks for, even if it uglies up the house and makes the neighborhood look unsafer than it really is.


  39. Sometimes Jamaicans have profound mis-understanding of Barbados and Barbadians. They see Barbados as Jamaica only smaller. I should know, my FORMER chief of staff is Jamaican.

    I know a sensible woman, whose chief of staff is Jamaican. She said that the Jamaican insisted that the child go to private primary school [but of course for secondary education the child went to Harrison College a PUBLIC secondary school.] I was amazed that a sensible Bajan woman was persuaded by the Jamaican father that no public primary school in Barbados is good enough for his child. But knowing that in Jamaica only the poor go to public primary schools, whereas in Barbados it is still normal for middle class families to send their children to public primary schools. Although who knows for how much longer if we continue to let foreigners interpret our society for us.

    We are Bajans and we know better Barbados, its people and its institutions better than anybody else.

  40. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @J
    I did read on, but did not mention it. My point is that the US does not see Barbados as having any special ‘safety’ status; they have a different alert for Jamaica, I know. What that means is that reports of crime become more pronounced in the eyes of foreigners. (It’s almost not an issue for Jamaica, which is a pity). So, the one murder of a tourist punches harder in the stomach of Canadians, say. That’s more salient than if Bajan kids like to come home for their comfort. If they bring in FX then great.

    What you say about Jamaicans and schooling is almost standard for foreigners, who often do not want to rely on public schooling as they do not always control their residential location so do not want that to impose an educationial penalty. They opt for schools that do not need location qualifications. It is also the case that private schools can often be more flexible about entry times etc. (In my case my daughter could start school right away rather than wait a year more, because of her birthday and time of arrival). That is not trivial. Expats also know they may need to move on and sometimes with little notice. All that factors in. From what I have seen Europeans are far more prominent in private schools here than Jamaicans so, I think, that should make you rethink.

    I really do not think that Jamaicans have a MORE profound misunderstanding that other foreigners. It is different, but I have seen and heard misunderstanding amongst Trinis, Bahamians, Lucians, Vincis, Antiguans, Guadeloupeans, Canadians, Americans, and the beloved English.

    Other Caribbeans have a leg up on others (say Europeans) in that we can relate well to many things we see or experience. Some have no problem eating pig knuckle and chicken feet, for example. We also can do a better job on making translations. I am not Bajan but I understood “Cheeze on..” quickly. Americans are still waiting for the sandwich. We have also the idioms. We also have a lot of shared history and its pains and pleasures.

    I know no Jamaican who sees Barbados as anything else but Barbados. You cant compare the two countries–Where the Blue Mountains? Where the waterfalls? Where the real ackees?

    Keep your beliefs, but they are not right. Understanding is spread. Some people know and understand a lot; some do not. Check out the understanding on one key subject of your choice in a range of places over a week across the island. If you find the same answer share that honestly; likewise, if not. The fisherman at Oistins does not see things the same as the man at Licensing Authority.


  41. The Governor of the Central Bank designate, Dr. Delisle Worrell, was reported on the front page of the Barbados Business Authority of 9 August 2009, as saying that this is NOT the time to borrow, given that the prevailing economic and financial climate is too uncertain. Indeed, we in the PDC presumed he meant the country. Furthermore, he was reported in this same story of this said Barbados Business Authority issue as saying that Caribbean countries need to establish an adequate regional stability framework – what ever that is – which helps us to make sure that our financial system does NOT collapse every five years.

    Now, one week later in the 17th of August issue of the said Barbados Business Authority, but on the back page now, there is a titbit citing Mr. Lindsay Holder as opposing Dr. Worrell remarks that this is NOT the time for the country to borrow. Furthermore, Mr. Holder was reported to have said in this issue: “that we do NOT know when the crisis is going to bottom out, but what we do know is that at this time, given that we have the flexibility, we should seek to address some of the problems as early as we can, so borrowing US $ 120 million from the Trinidadian market is a good start”. Well, when Mr. Holder can be reported as saying “we”, we in PDC really presume he means a few governmental and public figures within the highest financial corridors of this country, and therefore what we deduce is that it is like he himself belong to this group.

    Now, notwithstanding that none of our members were present when these gentlemen were being interviewed by the Barbados Business Authority at the given times, and which therefore means that we would be unable to comment on the context in which their cited remarks were made, we are still going to hazard a thought that these two so-called economists are yet unable to get it right in relation to what the country needs to do when it comes to the question of governmental foreign or domestic borrowing.

    Just a few points to support this argument.

    1) That the biggest problem is NOT whether or NOT BORROWING BY THE GOVERNMENT is being done at whatever time it MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT be felt best or appropriate by one or two so-called economists for the government to borrow, BUT is AT ANY TIME that of the governmental personal private sectoral DEBT, the attendant money circulation problems, and lack of production and distribution problems that come with DEBT, that are themselves the most massive persistent problems that are in need of being addressed and partially resolved by the people of this country;

    2) It appears that both these so-called economists have failed miserably to understand that it is many Westernized Euro-centric Barbados governmental political and legal rules and standards that are part and parcel of the massive governmental personal private sectoral DEBT problems that emerge in this country, the attendant enormous money circulation problems and the lack of production/distribution problems that orient around DEBT and the said money circulation problems, that are in need of being seriously replaced by better home grown political and legal rules and standards that will seek to reduce DEBT to a minimum in relationship to the governmental, personal and private sectors.

    That is why we in PDC have been promulgating that any time we become the government of this country that INTEREST RATES WILL BE ABOLISHED – that INSTITUTIONAL LOANS FOR PRODUCTIVE PURPOSES WILL BECOME NON-REPAYABLE, ETC.;

    3) That without dealing with a home grown national strategic plan of action for the addressing and the partial resolving of the governmental, personal and private sector DEBT problems in Barbados, the money circulation problems of the country, and the production and distribution problems that orient around the said massive debt and money circulation problems, there will be NO ESCAPE for the evil plots and machinations of those who are here locally, or those who are outside of our country, to as much as possible use certain political financial laws and standards to dangerously help to bring about booms and busts and expansions and recessions in this so-called economy, as a means of making the masses and middle classes, on one extreme, fall prey to the illusions of political economic prosperity and, on the other extreme, fall prey to the realities of social misery; and finally for now,

    4) that by systematically reducing our governmental personal and private sector borrowing, money circulation and production and distribution costs via the ABOLITION OF TAXATION, the ABOLITION OF INTEREST RATES, MAKING PRODUCTIVE LOANS NON-REPAYABLE, ABOLISHING THE ISSUE OF GOVERNMENT PAPER, ETC., will mean that there will be a substantial lowering of the government’s foreign borrowing requirements.

    PDC

  42. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @J
    “But knowing that in Jamaica only the poor go to public primary schools, whereas in Barbados it is still normal for middle class families to send their children to public primary schools.”[This is false or a misrepresentation. In some places, say parts of rural Jamaica, there are only public schools. Now, the people there may be poor–farming is not the best income generator. So, yes poor people send their kids to public schools there. If the middle class keep their kids in the area they make the same choice. (The same applies to secondary schools, such as in St. Elizabeth, if you know it. If not, then check.)

    But the middle class office or service worker may be able to move more easily; it’s not the case that the farmers cannot, but it’s hard to take land with you. When people move they reassess. In Kingston, the choices are very wide, and the market shaped too by the presence of many foreigners. Many people opt for private primary schools because they also offer secondary education and so the choice is set for say 12 years not just 6.

    I know several Bajans who do not want the local system at all and have sent their kids to the UK, Canada, the US, sometimes under care of relatives, some private, some public–not a Jamaican in sight on the choice. Some Bajans do not like the 11-plus system and being locked into its streaming, and other reasons.


  43. @LIB
    “What you say about Jamaicans and schooling is almost standard for foreigners, who often do not want to rely on public schooling as they do not always control their residential location so do not want that to impose an educationial penalty. They opt for schools that do not need location qualifications. It is also the case that private schools can often be more flexible about entry times etc.”

    What really is all of that garbage? An attempt to excuse Jamaican phobia?


  44. Come on folks, we have always had rivalries between the islands, especially with Barbados as the target, it is nothing new under the sun.


  45. @LIB
    “I know several Bajans who do not want the local system at all and have sent their kids to the UK, Canada, the US, sometimes under care of relatives, some private, some public–not a Jamaican in sight on the choice. Some Bajans do not like the 11-plus system and being locked into its streaming, and other reasons.”

    Another pile of garbage. Like you driving the garbage collection truck today. If there is one thing that Bajans pride is the secondary school system here in Barbados. Bajans feel more comfortable pressuring their children to get into Harrison’s and Queens College than sending them overseas.

    The majority of Bajans who would send their children overseas are those children who are not doing well here and to save themselves the embarrassment they ship them overseas.

    Since when are you an expert on how Bajans think and act? I think you referring to your Jamaican middle class who believe that nothing about Jamaica is good and who drive around with windows rolled up, electronic gates at their posh homes and in general fear of the poorer population.

    Fear? That is not an apt description. Terrified is more the word. I thought that Barbados had the most conservative people anywhere in the world until I visited Jamaica and met the Jamaican middle class.

    In my humble opinion, the Jamaican middle class are an insult to the upright reputation of Jamaica and Marcus Garvey. Like the woman say, they fear their own shadows and only go to what they consider, the safe places in Jamaica. You come here trying to put down Barbados and Bajans. Dig the beam out of your eyes and then you can tell me about the mote in mine.


  46. In other news former PM Owen Arthur said that the country is going down the wrong path. Arthur said “The Government, the private sector and the civil society have to work together on what will be necessary to put in place now, to make that recovery come about when it comes about”

    This was right after he said that he wouldn’t take part in any breakfast meeting with the PM to discuss the economy.

    http://www.nationnews.com/news/local/LEAD-new-arthur-on-economy-FRONT-PAGE-OTHER

  47. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David
    The notion of rivalry is neither new nor unnatural (like a certain x word). I thought a lot about ‘jealousy’. I cannot find the reference I had in mind, but it was something along the lines of “Foreigners are jealous of what Barbados has achieved…with so little”. I want to think about how sensible that can be. What I do see exhibited in ‘rivalry’ on both sides. I have to really think why ‘envy’ would come into play say for a Jamaican vs a Bajan. I cited a reference yesterday from another commentor about possible sources of envy. Given that no society in the Caribbean is absolutely or relatively very wealthy we have the roots of envy all around.

    Is the envy stronger within than without? Put another way, does someone in the Pine or St Martin’s Bay feel real envy toward someone in Strathclyde or Belleville or Claremont. Is this more than felt between the islands? Which is more of a problem?

    More ‘work’ for idle hands and brains.

  48. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @David
    One commentator showed yesterday what I thought was a poor understanding of FX markets (eg ‘shorting to the ground’ or similar). If you think it may be useful, I can offer some links that point to some simple explanations and even some hands-on web-based tutorials.

  49. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @ROK
    Help everyone out here. I wrote “I know several Bajans who do not want the local system at all and have sent their kids to the UK…” You say “Another pile of garbage…” Then write “If there is one thing that Bajans pride is the secondary school system here in Barbados.” which may be true but not my issue. But most puzzling, you seem to support my garbage with “The majority of Bajans who would send their children overseas are those children who are not doing well here and to save themselves the embarrassment they ship them overseas.” That is totally consistent with my saying that 11-plus/streaming was not to the taste of some. You put it that the kids/parents dont want to be seen as failing. What’s the difference?

    Well, now I am confused. You give reasons why my rubbish is not rubbish but still call it garbage.


  50. @David
    “Come on folks, we have always had rivalries between the islands, especially with Barbados as the target…”

    I have heard criticism of Barbados that I could take, but when the criticism are unfounded and void of a knowledge of Bajan society to the point of being outrageous and ridiculous, then some correction is necessary.

    This man is trying to make somebody feel that some majority of Bajan have no confidence in the school system, when the same middle class are embracing a lot of the newer secondary schools and “bigging” them up.

    I was privileged to hear a set of them (mothers at that) expressing pride at their children entering schools like Deighton Griffith. The one deficiency which parents worry about is early childhood education and if you check you will find that the day nurseries and some public schools like Pine Primary have added this aspect to their operations. So what he really saying. He cannot be excuse on the basis of inter-island rivalry.

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