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Parris (left) having a chat with director Leslie Haynes, QC, minutes after the meeting. (TM) (Picture by Nigel Browne of Nation newspaper.)
Parris (left) having a chat with director Leslie Haynes, QC, minutes after the meeting with Prime Minister David Thompson. (TM) (Picture by Nigel Browne of Nation newspaper.)

The expected deal between CLICO Holdings Barbados Limited and Insurance Corporation of Barbados Limited seems to have gone off the boil. Terse announcements from ICBL and CLICO suggest that both parties were not satisfied with the tenor of the negotiations. No sooner the announcement was made the Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) reinstated its call for the regulators to take hold of the company.

BU in a previous blog has expressed our concern at the haste with which some parties in Barbados seem to want to dismantle CLICO Holdings Barbados Limited. This is despite the assurance by Prime Minister David Thompson that the government of Barbados will protect the policyholders and investors of CLICO Holdings, the Opposition Party led by Mia Mottley seems hell-bent on escalating the call for the liquidation of CLICO’s assets.

The question to be asked is why no similar concern expressed at the recent downgrade in A.M Best Rating of Sagicor? ALICO which is a subsidiary of AIG has not raised even a murmur. AIG we know is the US based holding company which has been deemed to large to fail and has been on life-support for over six months now.

Last week Barbadians learned of an initiative by a small group of Black businessmen to save CLICO. It is our understanding the group met at Solidarity House but up to the time of posting this blog we have not had any feedback on any outcomes. It is interesting that a Black group should be mentioned as piloting the initiative. The history of CLICO is rich, the stuff Sir Hilary Beckles should be proud. If our memory is sound, Sir Hilary sat on the CLICO board for a period in its history. CLICO is a company founded by Cyril Duprey a Black man in 1936, to cater to the needs of working-class Trinidadians. The company nearly 75 years latter employs thousands of employees across the Caribbean and further and can be called an international company in its own right. The failure of CL Financial would have a negative impact on economies across the Caribbean.

It is our belief that many of the actors in the CLICO Saga have allowed their egos to become inflated. Whether employees will have no work or investments will be flushed have taken second place to Chairman Leroy Parris’ relationship with Prime Minister Thompson. BU like many is uncomfortable with the role the Prime Minister has played to date in unravelling this mess given a perceived conflict of interest but it has not stopped us from rising above our opinion to see the bigger issue.

To support the point BU was surprised when  Rawdon Adams, the son of former Prime Minister Tom Adams weighed on this matter when it first broke. BU family member Adrian questioned the timing of Adam’s intervention given his political lineage. While we don’t agree or disagree with Adrian, one can legitimately question why did Adams feel the need to inject his comment at that time and not since. Another interesting observation is the revelation that Douglas Skeete, Intervenor and Head of Corporate Shareholders regarded up to now as an independent commentator has admitted his interest to replace the soon to be vacant BLP St. James North seat held by Rawle Eastmond. Things that make you go ummmmm.

Should CLICO Barbados Holdings Limited be deemed too BIG to fail?


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  1. The BLP administration is showing how corrupt they really are.

    They are about power at any cost.

    Even if it is at bajan’s expense.

    Sad very sad.


  2. Barbados Underground hasn’t given a good god damn about conflict of interest, integrity legislation or FOI since Thompson was elected. Your defense of the indefensible is a complete reversal of your position when the BLP were in power. ‘nuf said.


  3. The extract below from:http://www.capital-chronicle.com/2009/04/credit-crisis-in-caribbean-cl-financial.html makes interesting reading. In particular “So it would make sense for the government to hedge by encouraging multiple bids rather than halting the brokering effort at a single potential buyer as they have done.”

    “Given this realpolitik one CL financial subsidiary, the Barbados-based US$100m (by assets) life insurer Clico International Life, may not see material benefit from the fund. In breach of regulatory reserve requirements, the firm requires capital having been caught out by an aggressive underwriting strategy, too much leverage, falling asset markets and illiquid holdings. Salt in the wounds, it also bought bond-based but derivative-powered “guaranteed return” structured investment products from Deutsche Bank which carry redemption penalties if cashed early. This further hurt its liquidity position.

    Which is why, as much of the rest of the CL Financial insurance operations in the eastern Caribbean fall apart, it is in talks brokered by the Government of Barbados to sell up to a competitor. That single suitor is a Bermudan firm of identical gross asset value – Bermuda Fire & Marine (BF&M) – whose capacity to finance an acquisition that will double its size whilst maintaining a prudently structured balance sheet is surely questionable.

    Understandably in a small island with rising unemployment and where nearly half of all households have policies with the firm the survival of Clico has become a hot political issue. If BF&M choose to cherry pick – and who would blame them in the current economic context – there will be a rump of operations left over for the local social safety net and taxpayers to deal with. Worse, BF&M could simply walk away.

    So it would make sense for the government to hedge by encouraging multiple bids rather than halting the brokering effort at a single potential buyer as they have done. And there is a cheap and elegant method of so acting which might even have a place in the current US context: a sovereign guarantee underwriting against further falls in value the bulk of the riskiest and most illiquid company assets.”


  4. Barbados Underground hasn’t given a good god damn about conflict of interest, integrity legislation or FOI since Thompson was elected. Your defense of the indefensible is a complete reversal of your position when the BLP were in power. ‘nuf said.
    ______________

    In the current context of Clico, that is a non-point. Where is the conflict of interest here?

    Should David Thompson shut Clico down and have 1500 workers put on the breadline? And let people lose their deposits? Or policies? I think he is right to get a sale of it as a going concern and it seems as though Trinidad has come around to his thinking. Why do you think the Trinidad injunction was not registered here? How else could Barbados announce the sale of a Trinidad asset here unless it is confident of Trinidad’s support? Didn’t Mariano Browne (one of Trinidad’s Ministers of Finance) confirm that Trinidad was mot registering the judgement here?

    What has the current government done with Clico that causes a conflict?

    Also, what Mottley is recommending is of little value. It is pathetic. The Barbadian policy-holders are not in peril … the government has said it will guarantee them. It has also acted to safeguard them.

    Ms. Mottley: Clico in Guyana is under “judicial management” and jobs were lost, people can’t get their money, health claims are not being paid and the Judicial Manager was shot!

    There has been no run on Clico in Barbados and that is the test of a sound financial system.

    Kudos to Prime Minister David Thompson.


  5. The question to be asked is why no similar concern expressed at the recent downgrade in A.M Best Rating of Sagicor

    Why are you bringing Sagicor into this? so far Sagicor is not in the same predicament as Clico. The problem with Clico and you and everyone else knows is the relationship between the PM and Leroy Parris. There is an old bajan saying that goes friendship and business dont mix and that is the crux of the matter.

    The job of the Opposition is to oppose and that is what Ms Mottley is doing and frankly I dont give a damn about either party B or D cause they are the same bunch of power hungry liars just using a different letter. Ignore whatever Ms Mottlay has to say and try to get the Leroy Parris to act like a man and not the arrogant bastard that he is portraying, at least everyone knows where MS Mottley stands since this Clico affair broke please tell me where Leroy Parris stands, what reassurances has he given the staff and policyholders? As far as I am aware NONE and that is the problem right there, nothing from Parris and a bunch of double talk from the PM.


  6. BU will address the issue of FOI and Integrity legislation.

    So the Opposition should oppose and expose at all cost and to hell with the carnage which could result?

    Does anyone know if Chairman of NIS Jepter Ince was the one who made the investment decision to go with the German bank derivatives when he was at CLICO?


  7. **************************************
    “The problem with Clico and you and everyone else knows is the relationship between the PM and Leroy Parris. There is an old bajan saying that goes friendship and business dont mix and that is the crux of the matter.”
    *************************************
    This is a petty and unsustainable argument, and especially so in a small society. How does one manage the Barbados economy, Government business and social development without doing business with some persons who are one’s friends?

    Obviously the real test of such an arrangement is an objective analysis of the actions, deals and results.

    Did not the BLP deal with their friends? or was those well known names that kept recurring just independent mediators?
    What we need to do is to compare the RESULTS of the CLICO decisions by Thompson with similar arrangements made by the previous administration.

    …and by the way , that Bajan saying does NOT mean that one should not deal with friends, but rather that such deals should be BUSINESSLIKE – not informal, casual or biased as friends tend to do….

    The opposition should not oppose for opposing sake. Nor should they appear to be hoping for a failure of the local economy to make a political point.

    Worse still, the opposition should be careful not to appear to be actually creating conditions that will encourage hardships for Bajans.
    It does not aid their cause….


  8. David, who in their right mind would want Clico to “fail” when the consequences would affect all of us whether we have policies or pensions with them?

    The problem is that the management in Trinidad and Barbados has to realize that they cannot run insurance companies and financial institutions that they control like their own personal companies.

    Go and take a look at the corporate financial information available on the Sagicor website for all to see.

    http://www.sagicor.com/corporate-financialinfo.aspx

    Now go and look at Clico Life

    http://www.clicolife.com

    Why is there not a shred of corporate financial information?


  9. @Nostradamus

    First Sagicor is a publicly traded company and must sign on to best practice governance structures. In the case of CLICO we have a private company which through entrepreneurial enterprise has become a large company. The fact that our region despite all talk about CSME and CARICOM has not implemented a regional harmonized regulatory framework for pan-Caribbean companies should not be 100% blamed on CL management.


  10. Conflict of interest and lack of oversight are how Clico was allowed to break the law all these years. No public books. Short falls in statutory funding and as we are finding out those shortfalls were sometimes based on phony assets.

    Come clean BU. Conflict of interest and integrity rules and FOI haven’t been a topic here since your precious DLP won the election. Now that your party is in the driver’s seat accountability and rules are unimportant to you. Not worthy of discussion.

    Thompson made promises. Here we are 17 months after he took power and it is still legal for a government minister to issue a contract to his/her own company!

    You screamed about FOI and integrity legislation when Arthur was PM. Now it is unimportant. Says everything about who runs this blog.


  11. David, I am referring to the Barbados Company, Clico International Life Insurance Limited. Although it is a private company they still have certain legal requirements regarding the publication of their financial information.

    Where is that information? The fact that the information is not available to the public has absolutely nothing to do with the establishment of a regional harmonized regulatory framework.


  12. @Nostradamus

    Should CLICO be blamed if the Supervisor sat on his ass? Should CLICO be blamed if the previous government ignored the Statutory Fund shortfall? For example there was a time when CLICO Holding owned a bank in Barbados can we assume that the Central Bank showed favours when regulating that bank? We do not absolve CIL from their responsibility to their shop effectively by adhering to laws but we can say this about several companies in Barbados can’t we?
    CBC
    HRl Resorts
    check any Auditors General Report

    @akabozik

    You are correct that we have not pushed FOI and Integrity legislation issues for all the obvious reasons. We commented yesterday that we will and BU so far has always followed through on what we promise. Although we have not written about it we have been following developments closely and understand that it is a process which will take time. As always we appreciate your feedback.

  13. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    Readers should note the following provision of section 39(2) of the insurance act of Barbados

    “Every company shall publish
    (a) the balance sheets referred to in paragraphs (a) and (b); and
    (b) the profit and loss account referred to in paragraph (c),of subsection (1) annually in the Official Gazette and in a daily newspaper
    within 4 months of the end of the financial year.”

    This is now may 10 and has the public seen anything!!


  14. @Donald Duck

    We don’t have the act before us at the moment can you quote if the act says anything about provision for an extension?


  15. David, you ask “Should CLICO be blamed if the Supervisor sat on his ass? Should CLICO be blamed if the previous government ignored the Statutory Fund shortfall?”

    The answer is yes, yes , yes! The chairman and directors have a responsibility and they are obligated to ensusre that they carry out their responsibilities. Heads should roll.

    As for HR1 and CBC their directors should also be held to account. Taxpayers money being squanders and and no one gives a damm.


  16. @Nostradamus

    We agree!

    The last government was voted out which reflected how the people felt about HRL, CBC etc.

    In the case of CLICO we have no doubt that this company will see massive changes forced or unforced.


  17. When speaking on the Clico matter, we should differentiate between the Insurance company and Clico Holdings.
    CLICO HOLDINGS IS NOT IN ANY FINANCIAL TROULBLE.


  18. CLICO MORTGAGE AND FINANCE IS CERTAINLY NOT UNDER FINANCIAL PRESSURE.


  19. I hope you guys can sort this out. It’s a sham CLICO couldn’t last.


  20. @ Facts

    CLICO Holdings (Barbados) Limited, is a wholly owned subsidiary of C L Financial Limited.

    CLICO Holdings (Barbados) Limited is the parent company for CLICO International Life Insurance Ltd.

    You may be correct that Clico Holdings is not in any financial trouble but how do we know? Just take your word for it?


  21. Any big company or big companies that has or have been as seriously grossly mismanaged as CL Financial Co Ltd and some of its subsidiaries have been including CLICO Holdings Ltd in Barbados must on reasonable grounds be taken control over by the governments of the countries within which they are operating, given the still significant policy holder/investor/employee interests that would be at stake if they were allowed by these said governments to continue to be as seriously grossly mismanaged at some times before.

    The facts are that where CLICO HOLDINGS in Barbados is concerned this entity blatantly allowed one of its subsidiaries to be in breach of the statutory reserve fund requirements, and had NOT for the collapse of its parent body in Trinidad and Tobago it is reasonable to think that scores of Barbadians – almost all policy holders, investors and employees too, would NOT have known about the fact of this breach – which is the huge deficit in the statutory amount required.

    The fact too is that CLICO Holdings failed in its legal duty to inform policyholders, investors, employees and the general public about this breach of the statutory reserve fund requirements and other shortcomings, and failed to give them any understandings as to how these requirements and shortcomings were to be overcome. Are there any other statutory funds too that are NOT in breach by the CLICO Holdings corporate? Is CLICO Holdings therefore a good corporate citizen? No. Not in such cases!!

    What CLICO Holdings has also been doing is putting at serious risk the money value of those policy holders investors and creditors that have had connections with this entity by its seeking to own and control too many assets in Barbados – many of which did NOT have any immediate prospects for guaranteeing returns on the purchases made, e.g. The now increasingly derelict Sam Lords Castle Hotel, Villa Nova. It is totally wrong and reprehensible for CLICO Holdings to have been seen to be doing these things whilst putting itself in more debt by building new office facilities for itself!

    Were a PDC Government in office today, it would have been our duty to ensure the taking over of any of CLICO Holdings subsidiaries found here to be putting at severe risk the policy holders, investors, creditors and employee interests in Barbados, with a view to making sure that CLICO Holdings is divested of many of its assets, and with a view of making sure that it incorporates best company practices into its remaining organizations, so that it would be in a better position to manage its own affairs, to be able to give full respect the rights of its policy holders, shareholder and relevant others, and so that its would be very certain of meeting ALL of its statutory requirements.

    Finally, what this continuing CLICO Holdings saga brutally shows up is the inherent weaknesses of this present political corporate financial architecture that is so pervasive throughout Barbados that the DLP and BLP must be wholly blamed for the dastard roles that they have played in allowing it to come to this sordid point. So, Down with the DLP and BLP!!

    PDC

  22. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    The question is how much will the ride on the CLICO jet now cost the Government of Barbados???


  23. […] Limited and Insurance Corporation of Barbados Limited seems to have gone off the boil”: Barbados Underground and Barbados Free Press closely follow the latest developments with the failed regional […]


  24. Extravagance at policy holders’ expense: the Clico brand:

    GITA SAKAL, who called it a day on April 30 after 15 years as CL Financial’s general counsel and corporate secretary is claiming termination benefits in excess of US$5 million from the cash-starved conglomerate, now controlled in large part by the Government.

    The Sunday Express understands that Sakal, who received a monthly salary of US$45,000 and a fixed annual bonus of US$2 million handed in her resignation letter on April 21, which advised that Thursday would be her last working day at 41-43 St Vincent Street, Port of Spain.

    Sources say the separation was less than amicable. Group Executive Chairman, Lawrence Duprey, in a rare departure from standing practice is reported to have asked Sakal to hand over all of the company-owned assets in her possession, including a black BMW car, laptop and cellphone

    Source: Trinidad and Tobago Express, may 3, 2009.


  25. On April 3, 2009, a day after his return from the Clico, British American financial rescue mission in Antigua, Dominican PM Roosevelt Skerritt disclosed that “the Barbadian government gave a commitment that it will honour the obligations of Clico (Barbados) Holdings in the Eastern Caribbean.”

    The April 24 issue of the Nation newspaper quoted PM David Thompson as saying, “A memorandum of understanding is currently being drafted for the sale of the Life Insurance arm of Clico Holdings (Barbados) Limited.”

    Thompson further disclosed that Barbadian economist, Frank Alleyne, is to be appointed to the board of Clico Life and that the company will be subjected to a full audit.

    Does the foregoing reflect a healthy company in control of its destiny?

    There is another reason why the bosses at Clico (Barbados) fear exposure. Clico (Barbados) owned Clico (Bahamas) and its reckless investment policies there may have caused operations in the Bahamas to go belly up.

    Both Clico (Guyana) and Clico (Suriname) have made claims of US$34 Million and US$15.5 million against the Clico (Barbados) owned Bahamian unit. Clico holdings in Belize, Turks and Caicos, US Virgin Islands and Cayman (which were administered by Clico (Bahamas) have been similarly stricken.

    In Cayman, the monetary authority imposed additional restrictions on Clico Cayman, prohibiting it from writing new business or transferring assets without approval.

    On April 2, Bahamian PM Hubert Ingraham, in a detailed and transparent account, told his country’s parliament that, “The parent company of Clico (Bahamas) is Clico Holdings (Barbados) Limited, a company incorporated in Barbados. Clico Holdings (Barbados) Limited is itself owned by CL Financial Limited, the parent company of Clico…” Clico says that their finances are strong and their investments are safe, but provided no proof. It is like the guy who tells the girl ‘trust me.’

    Nine months later he cannot be found. Will Clico be around? Can it survive without the massive injection of tax payers’ money?

    Readers might want to know where all of the money went. Well, look north to Florida and a company called Wellington Preserve Corporation.

    Follow closely the bouncing ball.

    Wellington, whose primary business is property development, is owned by Clico Enterprise Limited, which is owned by Clico (Bahamas), which is owned by Clico (Barbados), which is ultimately owned by CL Financial.

    To follow the money trail, here’s another excerpt from PM Ingraham parliamentary address: “Since 2004 Clico (Bahamas) began making excessive cash advances called ‘loans to subsidiary’ to Clico Enterprises Limited.

    In 2003 there was zero ‘loan to subsidiary’. However, loans to the subsidiary increased as follows: 2004 ($37,092,149), 2005 ($53,760,786), 2006 ($68,301,770), 2007 ($57, 010,248). Loans were granted at a rate of interest of 12% per annum with no fixed maturity rate.

    “In 2007, ‘loans to subsidiary’ represented 58.56% of total assets and 68% of invested assets.

    These advances to Clico Enterprises Limited were made to Wellington Preserve Corporation’s Florida project. This US investment is in respect of a 600-acre real estate development with a reputed value of $80 million.

    A write-down of $25 million occurred in 2007, mainly as a result of the decline of sales in the Florida real estate market and the non-completion of the project.

    As of December 31, 2008, loans to subsidiaries of Clico (Bahamas) were $73.6 million.

    http://www.thevincentian.com/dcmain.aspx?p=0&i=2173&skin=62&tID=198

  26. Knight of the Long Knives Avatar
    Knight of the Long Knives

    Interesting reading Dark Knight it is good when you prevent facts instead of propoganda. BTW are you paid fulltime to monitor the blogs or is this volunteer work?
    Nevertheless I think Ms Mottley needs to temper what what comes out of her mouth, I view it the same way I viewed Clyde Mascoll’s no confidence motion against O$A , nothing more than political grandstanding.
    I believe it is better if an outside company purchases CLICO Barbados as it will mean less job losses so if it means a Bermudan company that is fine with me.


  27. Dark Knight wrote ” a fixed annual bonus of US$2 million ”

    I thought that bonus was from the French word bon, meaning good.

    How than can anyone get a fixed bonus?

    A bonus should only be paid if the worker did bon, that is good.


  28. Donald Duck Esq. wrote “The question is how much will the ride on the CLICO jet now cost the Government of Barbados???”

    Not the government of Barbados Mr. Duck Esq.

    The taxpayers of Barbados.

    A good number of whom are struggling working class people.


  29. @Donald Duck

    Agree with you. PM Thompson jetting around on CLICO’s plane was an error in judgment committed by a green PM. Can we compare it to when former PM Arthur appointed Wilkinson to head HRL knowing he was the Godfather of his children?


  30. But Wilkinson has a master’s degree from the London School of Economics and an accounting qualification and many years of experience when he accepted the Hotel and Resorts appointment.

    Conscience develops by about age 4. If is does not parents should be very, very worried, because they might be raising a psychopath.

    That said any thinking 4 year old should have know that accepting a ride on a friend’s plane was just plain wrong and very likely to lead to trouble.

    And to besides good old LIAT and Caribbean Airways flying between Barbados and Trinidad everyday, or many times a day.


  31. And besides Owen cannot be godfather to any Anglican children.

    Owen is not now and never has been a member of the Anglican Communion or a member of any church that is in full communion with the Anglican Church. So whatever he is to Wilkinson’s children he certainly is NOT their godfather.

    He might be the father’s friend, but it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be the children’s godfather.


  32. @J

    Do a Google.


  33. David you and Owen might be unfamiliar with the teachings of my church; but I am not.

    No need to do a google when I am in the pew almost every Sunday.


  34. @J

    You win.


  35. Yes, Yes and YES we can and dont go saying that is an error in judgment by a green PM he has been in politics long enough to know better.

    Same bunch of crooks and liars only thing different is the letter!


  36. “BU in a previous blog has expressed our concern at the haste with which some parties in Barbados seem to want to dismantle CLICO Holdings Barbados Limited. This is despite the assurance by Prime Minister David Thompson that the government of Barbados will protect the policyholders and investors of CLICO Holdings, the Opposition Party led by Mia Mottley seems hell-bent on escalating the call for the liquidation of CLICO’s assets”.

    I am not certain who is the author of this statement but clearly it is a statement steep in ignorance of the subject matter or pregnant with political mischief.

    First, Thompson is the last person from whom you would want to take assurances on this matter. When the crisis with Clico first broke Thompson also gave Barbadians the assurance that all was well with the company. It was only after the Opposition Leader spoke to the matter that policyholders knew that their investments were at risk – a situation that remains unchanged today.

    Secondly, it must be stated that the opposition’s call for judicial management of Clico is not to dismantle it but rather to protect the policyholders and investors. Trinidad has gone that route. Has there been a dismantling of Clico Trinidad? What utter nonsense am I reading? If you follow what has happened in Trinidad you cannot come to the conclusion that judicial management means dismantling.

    It is only when the Supervisor of Insurance brings Clico under judicial management that an orderly sale can be pursued, if recommended, protection from the injunction issued in Trinidad is guaranteed and the policyholders and investors shielded from an aggressive takeover.

    There are two primary reasons why the Prime Minister has failed to place Clico under judicial management. First, as has happened in the case of Clico Trinidad and Guyana the Board and senior management were removed. In the case of Barbados Thompson’s friend and benefactor Leroy Parris would be removed from his position and this would be financially disastrous for both of them. It is Clico that has provided the slush fund for them to live out their fantacies.

    Secondly and most importantly the likelihood of a forensic audit could well reveal the magnitude of the financial irregularities that has brought the company to the position in which it now finds itself. The audit would reveal the level of funds paid out to Thompson’s law firm as well as the over generous sums paid to the DLP to finance their election campaigns over the years. This is obviously information for which Thompson would want to guard with all his heart.

    No doubt these sums would have been extended to Thompson, his law firm and the DLP at a time when the statutory fund was in deficit. The private jet would also have been bought at a time when the company’s requirement to satisfy its obligation to its policyholders and investors were being compromised.

    It is my firm belief that Clico Barbados would eventually have to go under judicial management, vindicating the position taken by Ms. Mottley and the BLP.


  37. BU wrote, “Is CLICO Being Used As Target Practice”?

    BU you should really be asking the other question. Was Clico and the funds of its policyholders and investors used as a slush fund by Parris and Thompson?

    It was not Ms. Mottley who brought about the financial crisis in Clico. She only raised concerns about it.


  38. And when all these transactions were being made by CLICO where was the Barbados goverment in 2003 to2007? The CLICO financial problem (deficeit on the statuory fund)was allowed to fester under the previous administration but i can assure the Barbados public that the sale of CLICO Life is close to completion and jobs will be maintained in the company which is the main focus.


  39. And where was Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition? This is the answer.

  40. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    late to reply

    Who is buying Clico life? will this be announced in the upcoming promised budget of next week?


  41. Dark Knight, why didn’t the BLP deal with the statutory deficit when in office?


  42. Nostradamus // May 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm asked: why didn’t the BLP deal with the statutory deficit when in office?
    ————————————————-

    Because as the song says all politicians are friends. The BLP was the government and the then DLP opposition leader is/was the lawyer and both sides were helping each other out!
    SIMPLE


  43. We don’t like the tone of the conversation by CLICO management based on media reports regarding the ICBL/CLICO deal.

    Why has CLICO been so late in responding to ICBL?

    Why did CLICO not sign the non disclosure agreement to permit deeper discussions to continue?

    What information is being hidden from the public regarding the propose due diligence by ICBL over CLICO assets?

  44. Barnabas Collins Avatar
    Barnabas Collins

    We can sit here and lament on whose fault it is for CLICO’s position, the fact remains they are in trouble and we BLP/DLP or NoLP need to find a way of solving this debacle. Talking about the previous administration is futile in my estimation because the world was not in a financial mess between 2003-2007 and they got the boot from governance so that is a moot point.

    My concern is if my wife Sarah will be able to draw her pension fund in a few years time which she so diligently paid. I also know that the PM will not let CLICO fail because that would be catastrophic for the country and less importantly his political career. I am not interested in who was who lawyer and who fly around in whose private plane. What I am interesting is if the government will shield the policy holders of CLICO and BAICO because I think the latter is in more trouble than the former.

    Finally, why is it that on every topic on this blog it always ultimately boils down to BLP and DLP surrogates cussing each other AND a VERY LONG submission from the PDC….lol…..I await your responses.

    BC

  45. Knight of the Long Knives Avatar
    Knight of the Long Knives

    Welcome to the blogs Barnabas :-).
    .


  46. David,

    1) It is surprising that the largest company in the region gets into so much trouble that it single-handedly forces the credit downgrade of the whole of Trinidad and Tobago and yet discussions of the implications for one of its mains subsidiaries in Barbados focus whether the real point is that it is a political football. The point is salvaging what remains viable of the enterprise before – and this is a judgement, not fact – it can no longer continue self-financing its operations, a time sensitive task.

    2) Fairly certain if you look back you will see my comments were initiated by a fine article and comment threat posted on your site. That’s the timing of the “intervention” – inspired by you, as was my March letter to the conventional press. Two other letters were written since: one unpublished, also in March, the other published on 10 May in the Advocate which set out one way to swiftly secure a recapitalisation on sound terms.

    By my arithmetic, BU has managed less output on Clico over the same period. So let me offer an alternative suggestion to the insinuated hidden agenda point: no one can usefully front-run events concerning Clico.

    3) There is a comment above about Clico Holdings vs Clico Intl Life. The holding co. controls something like $1.4bn of assets of which the life ops are $1bn. When over 70% percent of your house is on fire that constitutes, in my book at least, what the commenter calls the “financial trouble”.

    4) Another comment asserts no run has taken place and policyholders have already been guaranteed. “Problem solved” seems to be the implication. This would be a complacent position unless one does not believe – and it is possible – that time is of the essence in arranging the capital injection. Passing over the sensitive first point concerning client withdrawals, guaranteeing policyholders is not the same as saving the jobs at a minimal cost to social cohesion, economic growth and the public purse.

    Indeed, such a policyholder guarantee is, in my view, the nuclear option and not one that I have seen quantified anywhere in the media although it is clearly a large number. If it proves necessary to find it, all taxpayers will be on the hook, Clico clients or not.

    Hence the particular importance of avoiding that outcome and securing a recapitalisation. Which is why the failed ICBL talks were particularly bad news. A sale as a going concern is the ideal outcome. But the odds of a break-up, partial sale and expensive public safety net for what is leftover appear to be growing as time passes. Losing one suitor is unfortunate. Losing another would be careless.

    Regards,

    Rawdon


  47. Secondly, it must be stated that the opposition’s call for judicial management of Clico is not to dismantle it but rather to protect the policyholders and investors. Trinidad has gone that route. Has there been a dismantling of Clico Trinidad? What utter nonsense am I reading? If you follow what has happened in Trinidad you cannot come to the conclusion that judicial management means dismantling.

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    Rubbish, Anonymous! You are obviuosly reading your own nonsense.

    There is no Judicial Manager in T&T. The Central Bank entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with the company. And the Barbados government obviously has a similar understanding!


  48. There are two primary reasons why the Prime Minister has failed to place Clico under judicial management. First, as has happened in the case of Clico Trinidad and Guyana the Board and senior management were removed.

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    Rubbish again Anonymous! Duprey is still Chairman isn’t he? Check it for yourself! Clico could not be up for sale and operating as usual! I am sure the government has some “cover” and will wait for the Budget to hear the facts.


  49. Duprey is still Chairman but according to the Trinidad Express (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161477002)

    “The Manning Government, through its lead negotiator on the State bailout, Finance Minister Nunez-Tesheira, has made clear that Duprey must go as executive chairman of the group’s holding company, CL Financial.

    Government last week presented Duprey with a list of demands for management control of the privately-owned conglomerate which went knocking on Central Bank’s door for financial rescue in January.”

  50. Donald Duck, Esq Avatar
    Donald Duck, Esq

    The following is an extract from today’s trinidad express

    “FINANCE Minister Karen Nunez-Tesheira says Clico is now back on its feet following Government’s intervention to save the cash-strapped subsidiary of the CL Financial Group.

    Nunez-Tesheira said yesterday the Government was certain that Clico, with its new business model, would continue to grow from strength to strength.”

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