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Submitted by Guyana Consul Norman Faria

guyanese-souljahThere is much talk these days of the “Diaspora” and how they relate to their birthplace. These are Guyana and other CARICOM born people residing mainly in US, Canada and the UKโ€ฆ

There is some balance. Their diplomatic and consular missions highlight theย  contributions of a sterling few to their newly adopted homelands and mention of integration.ย  Heads of government and Ministers regularly visit . But the message is always sent: ” Don’t forget to keep sending home the money. It helps the economy”.

There is a needย  to go beyond the symbolic awards. How many of our people overseas really get involve in social work, community affairs and local and national politicsย  ? How “socially active”, or “civic minded” to use a more mainstream phrase, are we when we settle in the three main countries (and by extension other places like Barbados) ?

More needs to be done, perhaps more pressing at this conjuncture with theย  worldwide and apparently deepening financial contraction in traditional destinations. More “civic mindedness” may be unable to overcome “done deal” measures such asย  “local friendly” anti-migrant legislation. But more activism/commitment anย ย  help reduce , maybe stop them in their tracks, theย  opportunist and sometimes brutish effects ofย ย  trends where scapegoats are made of the newcomers, particularly the visible ethnic minorities (those who stand out on basis of colour) by decision makers and opinion makers. In recent periods, both Canada and the UK have “tightened up on immigration” while one hardly expects new US President Obama to change much of his predecessor’s “guest worker” programme. Immigrants and those affected by any new regulations, curtailment of sponsorship of families, restrictions/ cutbacks on contract work (work permit programmes) and other difficulties need to join with longer established residents, who happen to be white,ย  in community, church, labour an other peoples’ organisations as traditionally allowed in the liberal democracies of these great nations.

Thee have already been outstanding, emulative examples. While in New York last September , I learnt of several people with Guyanese roots running for public office. More were campaign workers for other candidates andย  are involved in neighbourhood and tenants groups. In Canada, a Guyanese have been mayor of Owen Sound, a town in Ontario province.

But how extensive is it ?ย  How much more time, energy and financial outlay in placed on “we ” activities, however commendable as they may be ? In New York I witnessed the really wonderfulย  Caribbean style carnival parade on Labour Day.ย  I was invited to a “duck curry competition” at a park near Liberty Avenue where many Guyanese live. We need to remember our roots and enjoy ourselves, but “jumping and wining” won’t deal with the ever present and probably increasing worries suchย  as high cost of living, working long hours andย  jobย  and immigration cutbacks and security.

As an aside, there have been questions of “the Diaspora” being permitted to vote in elections “back home”. This should not happen. So called (actually non-existent) “overseas voting” was used in Guyana to help rig elections for 28 years until the 1992 poll. It goes against the grain of the integrating in newly adopted homelands argument.

The “Diaspora” (ย  I never use the word myself because it hasย ย  connotations of people being in limbo, uncertain of themselves and adrift and unwanted in strange lands which is far from the truth)ย  has its organisations. Guyanese in New York have dozens, maybe hundreds. Some are a few ex-members of aย  particular school or government department. Same with Barbadians and other CARICOM nationalities including the growing Haitian presence.

Traditionally, there have been a need for such groups. When the main nationalities starting arriving in New York in the early 1800s (the Italians, Irish, Jews, for example) they had to stick together. Their essential self help bodies assisted with for instance providing jobs and advice on immigration and legal matters . There were also social needs including linking up with members for sex andย  companionship to combat the cruel loneliness and alienation all newly arrived migrants experience under capitalist type of societies.ย  This is all understandable , or was a “constant” as Marx would say.

Now, with increased assistance programmes from the appropriate government departments of the host country , there may however be less pressure for such organisationalย  ghettoisation. Some however can still provide valuable advice and practical help to newcomers to compliment governments’ programmes. Last

summer , New York’s Mayor Bloomberg , following a campaign from immigrant groups, stipulated that key municipal documents must be printed in Spanish, Chinese, Russian, Korean , French Creole (Haitian) andย  Italian to reflect the still necessary difficulties recent new comers may have. More importantly, people are also urged to learn English.

Against this background, I commend Barbadian institutions such as the Labour Department, Child Care Board and others for their kind outreach to newcomers including Guyanese.Advice should nevertheless be sought from their Consulates, by the undocumented especially, which also provide advice and assistanceโ€ฆ

As with other urban areas like Chicago in the US, New York has seen overtly politicalย  immigrant organisations.Part of their work is to mobilise support for, or opposition to, developmentsย  “back home”. These are the solidarity groups. They include the “support organisations” for all the major CARICOM political parties. They have their value in raising people’s consciousness and also provide practical assistance.

There are sometimes focal issues.ย  In the 1920s in New York and other cities worldwide there were mass campaigns on behalf ofย  two Italian born labourers Bartolomeo Sacco and Nicola Vanzetti to save them from the gallows. A wide cross section of left, social democratic and liberal was in the solidarity leadership.

Some groups have been backward. German and Italia organisations who praised the dictators Hitler and Mussolini were, correctly,ย  ordered disbanded.

The Sacco and Vanzetti campaign underscore the need for collective action against scapegoating (or blaming them unjustly for national ills)ย  of ethnic or national minorities. The Italians and Hispanics in general were treated terribly including racist stereotyping byย  the media and otherwise. The Winnipeg General Strike of 1919 in Canadaย  evoked another tactic used by opportunists in an uncaring capitalist society that essentially treats migrants as non-persons to fill a labour shortage. Some of the strike leaders were branded “Bolsheviks” and “alien radicals”. Problem is, they couldn’t be deported to (the then socialist) Soviet Union. They were in fact mainly British and Scottish immigrants. Indeed, a banner atย  a massive demonstration at the height of the strike noted: “BRITONS SHALL NEVER BE SLAVES”. They were asย  white as the average longer establishedย  residents in the Canadian city. That case had nothing to do with race, as we hear in some countries like the UK and European countries from the far right about migrants and contract workersย  bringing in “racial problems”. In the 1930s, during the justified labour upsurges throughout the Caribbean and then British Guiana, colonial authorities in Barbados deported “alien radical” Clement Payne to Trinidad. In fairness, authorities clearly had Intelligence that he had been sent by a pro-Soviet Union Marxist group in Trinidad to help Barbadians. Today, Payne is a Barbados national hero.

In immigrant life —and I experienced it having spent 14 years in Toronto in the 1960s and 1970s working in several occupations including welder and office cleaner— youย  need to adjust. While newcomers, including those on work permits and the undocumented, shouldย  stand up for their rights and freedoms, we have to beย  sensitive to the feelings of longer established residents. It may sometimes be difficult but one will find —as I did with the Canadian working people—that peoples worldwide are tolerant, democratic minded people welcoming newcomers. These include Barbadians who are embarrassed by the handful of xenophobes on lawless blogs which need controlling.

The need for sensitivity is especially true in small island societies like Barbados. A group of Guyanese residents (not on work permits) in Barbados once asked me to help them participate asย  a “Guyanese band” in the local Crop Over carnival-like festival.ย  I politely refused, advising them to march with other “Bajans” in their bands and build friendship and understanding that way.

Being “socially active”, “civic minded” or whatever term you use, includes raising your specific issues and remembering your roots.. But only through working with others and with their support can there beย  effective combating of any backwardness from misguided or wilful decision makers and opinion makers includingย  right wing fringe groups and even mainstream parties in places like Europe. .Only that way can there be a just and lasting solution, including practical advances and neighbourly love,ย  as we work together in this changing and challenging global village to make itย  a better for all of us.

For the legal immigrants, Guyanese or Barbadians, “home” is where they are now. We do not blame them for this. That is their freedom to travel to try and find the so called “greener pastures”. Maybe they have. In the main, they will never settle back or perhaps only as retirees, in their birthplace.They have a new home now. As Italian-American community leader Dominic Castore said in the NY paper City Lights: “My inheritance is Italy but my culture is New York city. That’s America !”


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  1. This does not tickle my fancy.


  2. Mr Faria
    You said you have some good idea of how many illegal guyanese are in Barbados. Would you PLEASE let us know? Secondly with the meltdown in the economy, do you think bajans should be competing with guyanese for work in their own country. Thirdly, with sooo much fertile land in Guyana, should not those illegal guyanese who are here trying to rent a one acre lot from a bajan be better off working large fertile lots back home? I have many many more queries but when you answer these, I would ask you more.


  3. Some people en got nuh shame, talking about lawless blogs and then submitting articles to the said blogs.
    Am I to believe that this lawless blogs comment does not include BU?

    His comment about the rigging of elections before 1992 shows where he stands. This is why he has nothing to say about the current state of affairs in his beloved Guyana.

    David, BU does not need the validation of the likes of Norman Faria.


  4. Mr Faria
    What is the relationship between BLACK guyanese and INDIAN guyanese? We hear and read of some bajan men going into what was then B.G and starting families, how many of these indo- guynese coming here have bajan roots? Do you see any similarity between the latest sprat of crime in Barbados and crime operations in Guyana? What do you think my government should do with the illegal guyanese in Barbados? Is Barbados the only country that has a problem with this influx of guyanese coming to their shores?


  5. ha hahahahaha he right he RIGHT HA HA HAHAHAH Norman Faria ya right ha ha ha aha lol!

    Don’t think that I have gone mad but writing this comment I am laughing my ass off!

    BECAUSE JUST NOW, they will have their own party in about hmmmmmmmm 15 years (if that much)!

    ha ha ha he right!

    I heard Ms. Ram talking about tying the US dollar to the bajan dollar or some shite! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! Ms. Ram aint talking bout carpets and hardware appliances no more ha ha halol lol ha She talking economics h ah aahahahahahahlol LMAO!

    What song Gabby sing ha hahaha

    “One day coming soon, the people wake up h ahahahahahaaha!”


  6. JC
    I think the people are waking up. This is another scene in this guyanese takeover. However, they are using a reel to reel tape and it just broke. Ladies and gentlemen, we have come to the end of the show, I’m asking you kindly to vacant the premises in an orderly fashion. Anyone caoght loitering while be dealt with according to our law.Let me state it plainly, THE FULL LETTER OF OUR LAW.


  7. ha ha ah aha aha ahI like I goin mad ha ha hahahahah I knew it was going to happen I like the part when he say ……..

    “Guyanese or Barbadians, โ€œhomeโ€ is where they are now. We do not blame them for this. That is their freedom to travel to try and find the so called โ€œgreener pasturesโ€. Maybe they have. In the main, they will never settle back or perhaps only as retirees, in their birthplace.They have a new home now.”

    ha hahahahahahahahaha lol

    HE RIGHT! HA HHA AHAH HE RIGHT! THEM RIGHT!

    As NM would say you is the Deputy ha ha ha ya right bechrist ya right ha hahahahah


  8. Incredible writing for a consul. This bedlamite can’t even find a modicum of cohesion in his thoughts, hence his drivel is just blowing in the wind. He goes all the way to the Soviet Union to come back to B’dos just to tell us that BU is a lawless blog that he would like to control and that Guyanese immigrants are here to stay, like it or not and there’s nothing you bajans can do about it. When did this heist of a financial meltdown start and when did B’dos started having a problem with Faria’s immigrants. Please show the relevance. How can a piece of real estate 144 sq miles accommodate its already dense population and still house 10s of ks more without social problems while 83k sq miles of mineral rich arable land just sit by the wayside? Mr. Faria can bajans leave their home and go to Guyana and live without being molested? What’s a wilful decision maker? What’s local-friendly anti-immigrant legislation? And you locals, pleeze don’t forget to have sex with Faria’s immigrants to help them combat the cruel lonliness and alienation of your little capitalist
    society.
    Mr. Faria – ‘Do Not Agitate and Do Not Violate.’


  9. What a ridiculous ploy of an article,BU should definitely keep up the heat on this immigration matter.

    The fact that he proposes censure to this blog would suggest that he does not believe in Freedom of Speech,also there is no “Freedom of Travel” to ANY country because that is why there are LAWS & REGULATIONS to cover immigration.

    He is just dogding the basic problem that many on this blog have expressed about,& that is does Barbados have immigration procedures or not & are they being followed by his fellow countrymen ?The answer is a big fat NO for both questions.

    There can only be talk when the P.M. starts enforcing the immigration laws vigorously w/ deportations no matter the nationality.The majority of Barbados citizens have had enough.

    I have also always wondered if Mr. Faria or Mr. Singh have actually visited Guyana for any extended period of time & why do they absolutely insist that non-national illegals are apart of Barbados.

    This highlights absolutely why Barbados citizens must be ever vigilant & hold the P.M. & their M.P.s accountable for this mess no matter the party until something is done about it.CSME is also contributing to this problem immensely by the Devised treaty of Chaguaramas & defintely the most dangerous element is free-movement of nationals with no limitations whatsoever.

    I have always wondered how can poorer nations of Caricom be of any help to Barbados & the only nations within Caricom that comes close or exceeds our GDP per capita is the Bahamas,Antigua & Trinidad.

    I also like how Mr. Faria talks about Canada,The U.K. & the U.S. when these are absolutely HUGE countries that CAN take in an influx of people,while Barbados absolutely CANNOT.Barbados is currently the 15th most densely populated country in the WORLD compared to 225th for Guyana.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

    What sort of a moronic Government would agree to freedom of movement in an already densely populated country ?


  10. Anyone who had believed that these people left Guyana on a temparary basis were only fooling themselves. Guyana is a failed state, Guyanese can’t wait to see the back of it.

    Then are continuing to make a name for themselves wherever they can sneek in.

    [quote]
    An illegal immigrant has admitted raping one woman and attacking two others in Belfast within the space of 48-hours in 2007.

    Ryan Subryan is originally from Guyana in South America, but was living at Dunmurry Lane in south Belfast.

    The 25-year-old, described in Belfast Crown Court as a sexual predator, admitted a total of seven offences.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7847759.stm

    Barbados was lucky this time, Ireland was not.

  11. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    For Mr. Hinds, I guess for each Guyanese we may find one Barbadian, as a simple search of the Internet indicates, in the case reported August 2008 of ‘A Barbadian national arrested in Manhattan, who had prior convictions for criminal possession of a controlled substance and attempted robbery. This individual was the 600th criminal alien fugitive arrested by the New York Fugitive Operations Teams during the current fiscal year’ (http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0808/080826newyorkcity.htm). Was Barbados lucky this time and NYC not?


  12. It’d be interesting to know why this GUYANESE, person thinks her thoughts might be of the slightest, interst to me!! I can’t begin to imagine why, at the moment!


  13. Norman Faria wrote:
    …”while newcomers, including those on work permits and the undocumented, should stand up for their rights and freedoms, we have to be sensitive to the feelings of longer established residents. It may sometimes be difficult but one will find – as I did with the Canadian working people – that peoples worldwide are tolerant, democratic minded people welcoming newcomers. These include Barbadians who are embarrassed by the handful of xenophobes on lawless blogs which need controlling”…

    The sensitivity to which you have alluded has never been shown by you, in your dealings with the Barbados population. It is your insensitivity which has brought this situation to what it is. Your hubris, inability to step back, rather than plunge headlong into all matters without due caution, and the respect one expects from a Consul officer has made you a “catalyst” for discontent.

    If you had conducted your affairs and by extension those of the Consul, in a more diplomatic fashion, the situation would not be as it is…I therefore put the blame on your shoulders.

    It would appear you wanted a separate “Kingdom” as opposed to a Consul Office under the protection of the sovereign state of Barbados.

    Your use of the words…”longer established residents”… as a throw-away remark indicates what you are about. Remember Sir! you are speaking in the main of Barbadians who were born in Barbados and have a true affinity for this country, in some cases stretching back hundreds of years. More than simply…”longer established residents.”

    It is obvious to me that the Barbadians you know who are embarrassed – about our stance on illegal immigrants – are in a minority. I would say to you, what you consider as a right for newcomers…”to stand up for their rights and freedoms”…is equally applicable to Barbadians and that is what Barbadians are doing.

    The remark about…”lawless blogs which need controlling”… is not worthy of further comment.

    Your ” true behaviour” is reflected in what I now quote:

    …”But only through working with others and with their support can there be effective combating of any backwardness from misguided or wilful decision makers and opinion makers including right wing fringe groups and even main stream parties in places like Europe”…

    You should be “ashamed” that you wrote the above, Europe was only tacked on at the end to camouflage, your attack.

    You have shown what you are, and what you think of our democratically elected Administrators…and you a Consul!


  14. livinginbarbados // January 31, 2009 at 4:24 am

    For Mr. Hinds, I guess for each Guyanese we may find one Barbadian, as a simple search of the Internet indicates, in the case reported August 2008 of โ€˜A Barbadian national arrested in Manhattan, who had prior convictions for criminal possession of a controlled substance and attempted robbery. This individual was the 600th criminal alien fugitive arrested by the New York Fugitive Operations Teams during the current fiscal yearโ€™ (http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0808/080826newyorkcity.htm). Was Barbados lucky this time and NYC not?
    ===========================

    The difference between You and I, is that i will make no case for illegal immigration or Immigrants no matter where they are from. None nada.

    On the point of your guess game “One Bajan for every one Guyanese regarding criminality, and illegal status, check further on Ice website for yearly statistics of US deported Caribbean nationals, and tell me if your ratio still holds.


  15. Well David giving Faria the space to cuss us and feed us his propoganda.Nice man,nice.

    I wonder how long we will be continuing to see these thesis.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if the submissions become nore regular.Ha,ha,ha.

    Guyanese really laughing at bajans for real,they must know we are too foolish.


  16. Oh this livinginbarbados is Dennis Jones who speaks with a borrowed british accent, the worst i have heard in a long time. Is that the best you could do after 30 years in Hingland? Yuh could keep your Jamtown accent, but there is probably a reason you gave it up, and it is probably from this reason that you made fun of the St.Thomas man and his choice of words on vob! We know you don’t like to sound ignorant. Tell me what is an international economist? Has David Ellis invited you back to vob to talk about the global financial fallout? you did such a lousy job that last time. People where trying to get past your fake accent but you spent so much time on it that there were none the wiser.

    This Jamaican with a fake british accent spends some of his time cussing Bajans with comments like,

    “this island filled with crazies”

    AND

    I am sorry to say that since arriving in Barbados nearly two years ago I remain unconvinced about certain “stylized facts” about the country. Highest on my list is the notion that Barbados has a highly educated population.

    “My gut feeling from encounters across the island have convinced me that, while many Bajans have gone through formal schooling and perhaps passed the prescribed tests, the population has levels of literacy and numeracy that are far lower than one would believe from statistics such as the literacy rate (99.7%), which ranks Barbados fifth in the world (see report on ”

    http://livinginbarbados.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2008-12-06T17%3A35%3A00-04%3A00&max-results=20

    Dennis Jones
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qwRt0R0vmw0/SUZZY2bc-XI/AAAAAAAACNo/1d2lXDouE-o/s200/Tennis+tournament+December+10,+2008+007.jpg

    THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE HIM MAKE SURE NOT TO GREET HIM WITH A BAJAN ACCENT.


  17. I think this article has done it. Time for action. Mr Faria, I’ve asked some pertinent questions that I would like answered. If these are not answered within 48 hrs, I’m not responsible for whatever action is taken. I think you’re looking for a fight with bajans, don’t encourage what you cannot handle. I just hope it doesn’t get violent.


  18. It has become obvious in recent weeks the PR initiative to sell the position of the benefits of immigrant labour and specifically Guyanese immigrants. We have had PR articles in the Nation (remember Roxanne Gibbs was born in Guyana is Chief Editor), Ricky Singh appeared on the CBC talk show hosted by the neoliberal Peter Wickham (he BELIVES that Barbados can absorb all comers. This is a man who makes a living from proving hypotheses based on numbers)

    We also had Faria on CBC morning show last week. He appeared on VOB late last year (remember CEO Vic Fernandes has a Guyanese connection.

    The fact that many of the immigrants are illegal or there is obvious deterioration in social structures in Barbados appears not to be material.

    The fact that Mr. Faria has refused to discuss how many Guyanese immigrants maybe in Barbados makes his position disingenuous. The fact is he should not be the one to do so. The recent revelation by Minister Maxine McClean that the number could be as high as 25 to 30 thousand should make us pause and evaluate our position which is what the DLP government has done.

    We are appalled that the fact we have inadequate management information system at immigration which was being abused seems to be of little concern to the Wichams and Symmonds’.

    It is clear that with the promise of an immigration shake up which is meant to improve management and uproot shady connections the cat will be placed amongst the pigeons. The PR effort will probably escalate in the comming weeks.

    Along with the shake up at immigration BU will soon lobby that the time has come for Consul Faria to be relieved of his position. He has become ineffective. The crisis brewing in Barbados on the immigration matter immediately requires a Consul with upgraded skills.


  19. But Dennis Jone AKA livinginBarbados
    you have made very clear that you have a problem with Bajans. You think that Barbados is filled with crazies, you took us to task as not being as literate as statistics may display. You have a ball of a time making fun of the Bajan accent. This is all good, as it matters little to me that after 30 years of living in England you have abandon the Jamaican accent, if you ever had one and your British accent is as fake as any i have heard. Would your Jamaican accent make you “Morder the Language”?


  20. So true Adrian,so true.

    At every turn dennis jones tries to find some way to disparage bajans except when he is dealing with his favourites – white people – and those lovely white people he meets at the brighton farmers market.

    Go figure.


  21. I do not think that you people are being fair to DJ/LIB. All Barbadians are not perfect and if someone living among us draws reference to our shortcomings, or the shortcomings of some of us, why should we not thank him as opposed to cussing him?

    AH, I am disappointed in you referring to his accent. Do these things really matter in the grand scheme of things?


  22. Juris there are several instances in Dennis Jones blogging that he takes his time to reflect on the Bajan accent/dialect, and i did not detect curiosity, or adoration, I detected villification, and a willingness to be condesending. Unless you also see the Bajan dialect as a shortcoming why are you wanting to defend this joker? Do you also believe that Barbados is FILLED with crazies? those are his exact words? Hopefully you will take a break from his defense to equire of him “do these things really matter”, for i do not know what makes you think that you question me and not him.


  23. Lef d Bajan accent alone!! I’ve got a British accent but I still love the Bajan accent, jes lef it alone, please!!

  24. INDENTURED SERVANT Avatar
    INDENTURED SERVANT

    You know, Mr. Faria has written insightfully on a matter. Biased readers will never be able to see his points.

    I could write a whole book in respose, however …. why waste my time and yours? I’ll just make a comment on one of the first posts….

    Scout asks …. “do you think bajans should be competing with guyanese for work in their own country.” I ask you scout … do you think Americans and British people should be competing with Bajans for work in their own country? …

    PLEASE REMEMBER TO REPLY. Thank you.


  25. Indentured servant

    Your days are numbered in Barbados.

    There is soon coming a day when you will wish you never heard the name Barbados.

    One Day Coming Soon.


  26. ID, there are immigration concerns all across the globe. All the concerns are not at there core the same. The specific case for Barbados as i understand it, is threefold.
    1: Our size and the assume numbers here and are coming.
    2: The race relationships that exist back in the homeland of the assume largest block of immigrants on the island.
    3: The willingness of immigrant to work for less, and employers to pay less.

    When i look to these three concerns i see legitimate greviences.

    Immigration concern in America is huge and is centered primarily on Law. Most American see the question of illegal immigrantion as basically breaking the law, therefore it is wrong and should not be reward with amnesty etc. The concern is not about race or wages as it is in Barbados. There is a concept of a minimum wage that is expected to be adhered to even in those states that have safe-haven laws.

    I don’t know what are the core issues driving the concerns in Britain, but i would suspect that it may have to do with what some Brits are saying about the difficulty of being British in Britain. i.e banning the st.georges flag, can’t wear cross pendent, etc.

    However in this global economic situation, fear of losing one job and livlihood could be a factor in the three aforemention locales, as companies try to shore up their bottom line and profit margin they will seek ways around any minimum wage regulation and take advantage where there is none. If they can replace 10 $ hr employee with a 5 $ and hr one, they will seek to do so.

    Face with a situation like that especially when you have IMF and IMF type economist and advisors whose claim to fame is growth and profits at any cost, I would risk being called a xenophobe to protect myself and my family. Face with such odds stack against you, why would I be annoyed at someone for not willingly accepting his immediate competition from another country into his?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123333658509033955.html


  27. INDENTURED SERVANT // January 31, 2009 at 8:51 am

    You know, Mr. Faria has written insightfully on a matter.
    ===========================

    I will not beg to differ, but I do so forcefully.

    Don’t you think it is bit of a condradiction for us to still refer to Guyana as the potential breadbasket of the caribbean, what with its vast amount of arable land, and all the current government seems to be doing is exporting the resourses to work that land, and in so doing causing great concern all throughout the caribbean and the world for that matter.


  28. Guyanaโ€™s Honorary Consul to Barbados, Norman Faria, has met with the Chief Executive Officer of the Star Chick Farm, where a Guyanese worker died on Saturday.
    Bibi Hassim, a 38-year-old general worker, was crushed to death in a container through which the poultry passes on the assembly line.
    Faria refused to speculate on whether the woman had been intentionally killed, as claimed by her relatives in Guyana.
    โ€œI made some inquiries, including on reports that while she was in the container someone turned on the power supply, activating the mechanisms in the container, which apparently crushed her,โ€ Faria stated.
    โ€œI met with a Mr. Clarke and gathered information that would form the basis of my reportโ€ฆ I also spoke with several of the Guyanese employees and received other information,โ€ said Faria.
    Relatives told Kaieteur News earlier in the week that they believe she was murdered.
    There are several other Guyanese working on the chicken farm.
    /////////////////////////////////////
    Between Norman Faria, Kaiteur News, Negroman, Scout and a few more there appears to be secret pact to start a race war between Bajan blacks and Indo Guyanese. The good thing is these four despicable persons and entities are dismissed by right thinking people as crackpots.

    The rest of the world is working hard to turn back worst manifestations of racism, Obama and Nelson Mandela are recent shining examples while these home grown buffons continue to stoke racist flames.

    The majority of Barbadians and Guyanese are sensible people and despite the legitimate immigration problem they will not be suckered by the Hilter/Goebbels type tactics of Kaituer News, Faria, Negroman and Scout.

    Those four may appear to be on opposite sides but they are all preaching the politics of extreme hate. We must reject them all.


  29. The difference between You and I, is that i will make no case for illegal immigration or Immigrants no matter where they are from. None nada.

    On the point of your guess game โ€œOne Bajan for every one Guyanese regarding criminality, and illegal status, check further on Ice website for yearly statistics of US deported Caribbean nationals, and tell me if your ratio still holds.
    ———————————————

    ADRIAN HINDS you aint easy ha ha lol

    I love when you drop it hot hot hot!


  30. Anonymous you said

    The majority of Barbadians and Guyanese are sensible people and despite the legitimate immigration problem they will not be suckered by the Hilter/Goebbels type tactics of Kaituer News, Faria, Negroman and Scout.

    Those four may appear to be on opposite sides but they are all preaching the politics of extreme hate. We must reject them all.

    ————————————————-

    Have you ever watched the Rosa Parks film? I remember this particular man stating when every one had gathered that they should write a letter to the White persons stating their problems! ha ha ha ha thank God Maritn Luther King and followers who were called criminals didn’t listen ha ha ha!

    Anon this is for you …. please read ….. it will help you to understand how we bajans feel and we refuse to apologise READ perhaps it will help (hopefully ….

    16 April 1963

    My Dear Fellow Clergymen:

    While confined here in the Birmingham city jail, I came across your recent statement calling my present activities “unwise and untimely.” Seldom do I pause to answer criticism of my work and ideas. If I sought to answer all the criticisms that cross my desk, my secretaries would have little time for anything other than such correspondence in the course of the day, and I would have no time for constructive work. But since I feel that you are men of genuine good will and that your criticisms are sincerely set forth, I want to try to answer your statement in what I hope will be patient and reasonable terms.

    I think I should indicate why I am here in Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against “outsiders coming in.” I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty five affiliated organizations across the South, and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise. So I, along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here. I am here because I have organizational ties here.

    But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their “thus saith the Lord” far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco Roman world, so am I compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

    Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial “outside agitator” idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.

    You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am sure that none of you would want to rest content with the superficial kind of social analysis that deals merely with effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city’s white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative.

    In any nonviolent campaign there are four basic steps: collection of the facts to determine whether injustices exist; negotiation; self purification; and direct action. We have gone through all these steps in Birmingham. There can be no gainsaying the fact that racial injustice engulfs this community. Birmingham is probably the most thoroughly segregated city in the United States. Its ugly record of brutality is widely known. Negroes have experienced grossly unjust treatment in the courts. There have been more unsolved bombings of Negro homes and churches in Birmingham than in any other city in the nation. These are the hard, brutal facts of the case. On the basis of these conditions, Negro leaders sought to negotiate with the city fathers. But the latter consistently refused to engage in good faith negotiation.

    Then, last September, came the opportunity to talk with leaders of Birmingham’s economic community. In the course of the negotiations, certain promises were made by the merchants–for example, to remove the stores’ humiliating racial signs. On the basis of these promises, the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth and the leaders of the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights agreed to a moratorium on all demonstrations. As the weeks and months went by, we realized that we were the victims of a broken promise. A few signs, briefly removed, returned; the others remained. As in so many past experiences, our hopes had been blasted, and the shadow of deep disappointment settled upon us. We had no alternative except to prepare for direct action, whereby we would present our very bodies as a means of laying our case before the conscience of the local and the national community. Mindful of the difficulties involved, we decided to undertake a process of self purification. We began a series of workshops on nonviolence, and we repeatedly asked ourselves: “Are you able to accept blows without retaliating?” “Are you able to endure the ordeal of jail?” We decided to schedule our direct action program for the Easter season, realizing that except for Christmas, this is the main shopping period of the year. Knowing that a strong economic-withdrawal program would be the by product of direct action, we felt that this would be the best time to bring pressure to bear on the merchants for the needed change.

    Then it occurred to us that Birmingham’s mayoral election was coming up in March, and we speedily decided to postpone action until after election day. When we discovered that the Commissioner of Public Safety, Eugene “Bull” Connor, had piled up enough votes to be in the run off, we decided again to postpone action until the day after the run off so that the demonstrations could not be used to cloud the issues. Like many others, we waited to see Mr. Connor defeated, and to this end we endured postponement after postponement. Having aided in this community need, we felt that our direct action program could be delayed no longer.

    You may well ask: “Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn’t negotiation a better path?” You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word “tension.” I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth. Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood. The purpose of our direct action program is to create a situation so crisis packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation. I therefore concur with you in your call for negotiation. Too long has our beloved Southland been bogged down in a tragic effort to live in monologue rather than dialogue.

    One of the basic points in your statement is that the action that I and my associates have taken in Birmingham is untimely. Some have asked: “Why didn’t you give the new city administration time to act?” The only answer that I can give to this query is that the new Birmingham administration must be prodded about as much as the outgoing one, before it will act. We are sadly mistaken if we feel that the election of Albert Boutwell as mayor will bring the millennium to Birmingham. While Mr. Boutwell is a much more gentle person than Mr. Connor, they are both segregationists, dedicated to maintenance of the status quo. I have hope that Mr. Boutwell will be reasonable enough to see the futility of massive resistance to desegregation. But he will not see this without pressure from devotees of civil rights. My friends, I must say to you that we have not made a single gain in civil rights without determined legal and nonviolent pressure. Lamentably, it is an historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals.

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word “Wait!” It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This “Wait” has almost always meant “Never.” We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”

    We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights. The nations of Asia and Africa are moving with jetlike speed toward gaining political independence, but we still creep at horse and buggy pace toward gaining a cup of coffee at a lunch counter. Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, “Wait.” But when you have seen vicious mobs lynch your mothers and fathers at will and drown your sisters and brothers at whim; when you have seen hate filled policemen curse, kick and even kill your black brothers and sisters; when you see the vast majority of your twenty million Negro brothers smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society; when you suddenly find your tongue twisted and your speech stammering as you seek to explain to your six year old daughter why she can’t go to the public amusement park that has just been advertised on television, and see tears welling up in her eyes when she is told that Funtown is closed to colored children, and see ominous clouds of inferiority beginning to form in her little mental sky, and see her beginning to distort her personality by developing an unconscious bitterness toward white people; when you have to concoct an answer for a five year old son who is asking: “Daddy, why do white people treat colored people so mean?”; when you take a cross county drive and find it necessary to sleep night after night in the uncomfortable corners of your automobile because no motel will accept you; when you are humiliated day in and day out by nagging signs reading “white” and “colored”; when your first name becomes “nigger,” your middle name becomes “boy” (however old you are) and your last name becomes “John,” and your wife and mother are never given the respected title “Mrs.”; when you are harried by day and haunted by night by the fact that you are a Negro, living constantly at tiptoe stance, never quite knowing what to expect next, and are plagued with inner fears and outer resentments; when you are forever fighting a degenerating sense of “nobodiness”–then you will understand why we find it difficult to wait. There comes a time when the cup of endurance runs over, and men are no longer willing to be plunged into the abyss of despair. I hope, sirs, you can understand our legitimate and unavoidable impatience. You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court’s decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

    Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation, to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an “I it” relationship for an “I thou” relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man’s tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus it is that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong.

    Let us consider a more concrete example of just and unjust laws. An unjust law is a code that a numerical or power majority group compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on itself. This is difference made legal. By the same token, a just law is a code that a majority compels a minority to follow and that it is willing to follow itself. This is sameness made legal. Let me give another explanation. A law is unjust if it is inflicted on a minority that, as a result of being denied the right to vote, had no part in enacting or devising the law. Who can say that the legislature of Alabama which set up that state’s segregation laws was democratically elected? Throughout Alabama all sorts of devious methods are used to prevent Negroes from becoming registered voters, and there are some counties in which, even though Negroes constitute a majority of the population, not a single Negro is registered. Can any law enacted under such circumstances be considered democratically structured?

    Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.

    I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.

    Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar, on the ground that a higher moral law was at stake. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians, who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire. To a degree, academic freedom is a reality today because Socrates practiced civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party represented a massive act of civil disobedience.

    We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was “legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.” It was “illegal” to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler’s Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country’s antireligious laws.

    I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

    I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

    In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn’t this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn’t this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn’t this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God’s will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: “All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth.” Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.

    You speak of our activity in Birmingham as extreme. At first I was rather disappointed that fellow clergymen would see my nonviolent efforts as those of an extremist. I began thinking about the fact that I stand in the middle of two opposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made up in part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drained of self respect and a sense of “somebodiness” that they have adjusted to segregation; and in part of a few middle-class Negroes who, because of a degree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit by segregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation, the largest and best known being Elijah Muhammad’s Muslim movement. Nourished by the Negro’s frustration over the continued existence of racial discrimination, this movement is made up of people who have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, and who have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible “devil.”

    I have tried to stand between these two forces, saying that we need emulate neither the “do nothingism” of the complacent nor the hatred and despair of the black nationalist. For there is the more excellent way of love and nonviolent protest. I am grateful to God that, through the influence of the Negro church, the way of nonviolence became an integral part of our struggle. If this philosophy had not emerged, by now many streets of the South would, I am convinced, be flowing with blood. And I am further convinced that if our white brothers dismiss as “rabble rousers” and “outside agitators” those of us who employ nonviolent direct action, and if they refuse to support our nonviolent efforts, millions of Negroes will, out of frustration and despair, seek solace and security in black nationalist ideologies–a development that would inevitably lead to a frightening racial nightmare.

    Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever. The yearning for freedom eventually manifests itself, and that is what has happened to the American Negro. Something within has reminded him of his birthright of freedom, and something without has reminded him that it can be gained. Consciously or unconsciously, he has been caught up by the Zeitgeist, and with his black brothers of Africa and his brown and yellow brothers of Asia, South America and the Caribbean, the United States Negro is moving with a sense of great urgency toward the promised land of racial justice. If one recognizes this vital urge that has engulfed the Negro community, one should readily understand why public demonstrations are taking place. The Negro has many pent up resentments and latent frustrations, and he must release them. So let him march; let him make prayer pilgrimages to the city hall; let him go on freedom rides -and try to understand why he must do so. If his repressed emotions are not released in nonviolent ways, they will seek expression through violence; this is not a threat but a fact of history. So I have not said to my people: “Get rid of your discontent.” Rather, I have tried to say that this normal and healthy discontent can be channeled into the creative outlet of nonviolent direct action. And now this approach is being termed extremist. But though I was initially disappointed at being categorized as an extremist, as I continued to think about the matter I gradually gained a measure of satisfaction from the label. Was not Jesus an extremist for love: “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.” Was not Amos an extremist for justice: “Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream.” Was not Paul an extremist for the Christian gospel: “I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.” Was not Martin Luther an extremist: “Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God.” And John Bunyan: “I will stay in jail to the end of my days before I make a butchery of my conscience.” And Abraham Lincoln: “This nation cannot survive half slave and half free.” And Thomas Jefferson: “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal . . .” So the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice or for the extension of justice? In that dramatic scene on Calvary’s hill three men were crucified. We must never forget that all three were crucified for the same crime–the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thus fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment. Perhaps the South, the nation and the world are in dire need of creative extremists.

    I had hoped that the white moderate would see this need. Perhaps I was too optimistic; perhaps I expected too much. I suppose I should have realized that few members of the oppressor race can understand the deep groans and passionate yearnings of the oppressed race, and still fewer have the vision to see that injustice must be rooted out by strong, persistent and determined action. I am thankful, however, that some of our white brothers in the South have grasped the meaning of this social revolution and committed themselves to it. They are still all too few in quantity, but they are big in quality. Some -such as Ralph McGill, Lillian Smith, Harry Golden, James McBride Dabbs, Ann Braden and Sarah Patton Boyle–have written about our struggle in eloquent and prophetic terms. Others have marched with us down nameless streets of the South. They have languished in filthy, roach infested jails, suffering the abuse and brutality of policemen who view them as “dirty nigger-lovers.” Unlike so many of their moderate brothers and sisters, they have recognized the urgency of the moment and sensed the need for powerful “action” antidotes to combat the disease of segregation. Let me take note of my other major disappointment. I have been so greatly disappointed with the white church and its leadership. Of course, there are some notable exceptions. I am not unmindful of the fact that each of you has taken some significant stands on this issue. I commend you, Reverend Stallings, for your Christian stand on this past Sunday, in welcoming Negroes to your worship service on a nonsegregated basis. I commend the Catholic leaders of this state for integrating Spring Hill College several years ago.

    But despite these notable exceptions, I must honestly reiterate that I have been disappointed with the church. I do not say this as one of those negative critics who can always find something wrong with the church. I say this as a minister of the gospel, who loves the church; who was nurtured in its bosom; who has been sustained by its spiritual blessings and who will remain true to it as long as the cord of life shall lengthen.

    When I was suddenly catapulted into the leadership of the bus protest in Montgomery, Alabama, a few years ago, I felt we would be supported by the white church. I felt that the white ministers, priests and rabbis of the South would be among our strongest allies. Instead, some have been outright opponents, refusing to understand the freedom movement and misrepresenting its leaders; all too many others have been more cautious than courageous and have remained silent behind the anesthetizing security of stained glass windows.

    In spite of my shattered dreams, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause and, with deep moral concern, would serve as the channel through which our just grievances could reach the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed.

    I have heard numerous southern religious leaders admonish their worshipers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers declare: “Follow this decree because integration is morally right and because the Negro is your brother.” In the midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churchmen stand on the sideline and mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard many ministers say: “Those are social issues, with which the gospel has no real concern.” And I have watched many churches commit themselves to a completely other worldly religion which makes a strange, un-Biblical distinction between body and soul, between the sacred and the secular.

    I have traveled the length and breadth of Alabama, Mississippi and all the other southern states. On sweltering summer days and crisp autumn mornings I have looked at the South’s beautiful churches with their lofty spires pointing heavenward. I have beheld the impressive outlines of her massive religious education buildings. Over and over I have found myself asking: “What kind of people worship here? Who is their God? Where were their voices when the lips of Governor Barnett dripped with words of interposition and nullification? Where were they when Governor Wallace gave a clarion call for defiance and hatred? Where were their voices of support when bruised and weary Negro men and women decided to rise from the dark dungeons of complacency to the bright hills of creative protest?”

    Yes, these questions are still in my mind. In deep disappointment I have wept over the laxity of the church. But be assured that my tears have been tears of love. There can be no deep disappointment where there is not deep love. Yes, I love the church. How could I do otherwise? I am in the rather unique position of being the son, the grandson and the great grandson of preachers. Yes, I see the church as the body of Christ. But, oh! How we have blemished and scarred that body through social neglect and through fear of being nonconformists.

    There was a time when the church was very powerful–in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being “disturbers of the peace” and “outside agitators.”‘ But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were “a colony of heaven,” called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God-intoxicated to be “astronomically intimidated.” By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide and gladiatorial contests. Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Far from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church’s silent–and often even vocal–sanction of things as they are.

    But the judgment of God is upon the church as never before. If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.

    Perhaps I have once again been too optimistic. Is organized religion too inextricably bound to the status quo to save our nation and the world? Perhaps I must turn my faith to the inner spiritual church, the church within the church, as the true ekklesia and the hope of the world. But again I am thankful to God that some noble souls from the ranks of organized religion have broken loose from the paralyzing chains of conformity and joined us as active partners in the struggle for freedom. They have left their secure congregations and walked the streets of Albany, Georgia, with us. They have gone down the highways of the South on tortuous rides for freedom. Yes, they have gone to jail with us. Some have been dismissed from their churches, have lost the support of their bishops and fellow ministers. But they have acted in the faith that right defeated is stronger than evil triumphant. Their witness has been the spiritual salt that has preserved the true meaning of the gospel in these troubled times. They have carved a tunnel of hope through the dark mountain of disappointment. I hope the church as a whole will meet the challenge of this decisive hour. But even if the church does not come to the aid of justice, I have no despair about the future. I have no fear about the outcome of our struggle in Birmingham, even if our motives are at present misunderstood. We will reach the goal of freedom in Birmingham and all over the nation, because the goal of America is freedom. Abused and scorned though we may be, our destiny is tied up with America’s destiny. Before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth, we were here. Before the pen of Jefferson etched the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence across the pages of history, we were here. For more than two centuries our forebears labored in this country without wages; they made cotton king; they built the homes of their masters while suffering gross injustice and shameful humiliation -and yet out of a bottomless vitality they continued to thrive and develop. If the inexpressible cruelties of slavery could not stop us, the opposition we now face will surely fail. We will win our freedom because the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal will of God are embodied in our echoing demands. Before closing I feel impelled to mention one other point in your statement that has troubled me profoundly. You warmly commended the Birmingham police force for keeping “order” and “preventing violence.” I doubt that you would have so warmly commended the police force if you had seen its dogs sinking their teeth into unarmed, nonviolent Negroes. I doubt that you would so quickly commend the policemen if you were to observe their ugly and inhumane treatment of Negroes here in the city jail; if you were to watch them push and curse old Negro women and young Negro girls; if you were to see them slap and kick old Negro men and young boys; if you were to observe them, as they did on two occasions, refuse to give us food because we wanted to sing our grace together. I cannot join you in your praise of the Birmingham police department.

    It is true that the police have exercised a degree of discipline in handling the demonstrators. In this sense they have conducted themselves rather “nonviolently” in public. But for what purpose? To preserve the evil system of segregation. Over the past few years I have consistently preached that nonviolence demands that the means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek. I have tried to make clear that it is wrong to use immoral means to attain moral ends. But now I must affirm that it is just as wrong, or perhaps even more so, to use moral means to preserve immoral ends. Perhaps Mr. Connor and his policemen have been rather nonviolent in public, as was Chief Pritchett in Albany, Georgia, but they have used the moral means of nonviolence to maintain the immoral end of racial injustice. As T. S. Eliot has said: “The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.”

    I wish you had commended the Negro sit inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes. They will be the James Merediths, with the noble sense of purpose that enables them to face jeering and hostile mobs, and with the agonizing loneliness that characterizes the life of the pioneer. They will be old, oppressed, battered Negro women, symbolized in a seventy two year old woman in Montgomery, Alabama, who rose up with a sense of dignity and with her people decided not to ride segregated buses, and who responded with ungrammatical profundity to one who inquired about her weariness: “My feets is tired, but my soul is at rest.” They will be the young high school and college students, the young ministers of the gospel and a host of their elders, courageously and nonviolently sitting in at lunch counters and willingly going to jail for conscience’ sake. One day the South will know that when these disinherited children of God sat down at lunch counters, they were in reality standing up for what is best in the American dream and for the most sacred values in our Judaeo Christian heritage, thereby bringing our nation back to those great wells of democracy which were dug deep by the founding fathers in their formulation of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

    Never before have I written so long a letter. I’m afraid it is much too long to take your precious time. I can assure you that it would have been much shorter if I had been writing from a comfortable desk, but what else can one do when he is alone in a narrow jail cell, other than write long letters, think long thoughts and pray long prayers?

    If I have said anything in this letter that overstates the truth and indicates an unreasonable impatience, I beg you to forgive me. If I have said anything that understates the truth and indicates my having a patience that allows me to settle for anything less than brotherhood, I beg God to forgive me.

    I hope this letter finds you strong in the faith. I also hope that circumstances will soon make it possible for me to meet each of you, not as an integrationist or a civil-rights leader but as a fellow clergyman and a Christian brother. Let us all hope that the dark clouds of racial prejudice will soon pass away and the deep fog of misunderstanding will be lifted from our fear drenched communities, and in some not too distant tomorrow the radiant stars of love and brotherhood will shine over our great nation with all their scintillating beauty.


  31. The Press Association UK, 31 January ,2009

    A Spokesman for the UK Border Agency said…” Abuse of the UK’s immigration system will not be tolerated. Illegal immigrants will be found and removed from the country. We remove someone every eight minutes.

    We are cracking down on illegal working because it undercuts honest UK businesses. Dodgy bosses will have their premises raided and could face a fine of up to ยฃ10,000 per illegal worker they hire. Illegal workers will be arrested and removed from the UK.

    Immigration officials are investigating X-Factor winnner Alexandra Burkes half brother after receiving allegations that he is working illegal in Britain sources said.

  32. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I can not imagine why any sensible Bajan would give Norman Faria the time of day.

  33. Guyana First Lady Avatar
    Guyana First Lady

    Wow, Jadgeo should be ashamed of himself. First Lady, Varshanni Singh-Jadgeo revealed at a press conference that she has been barred from entering State House (offical residence of the President of Guyana) yesterday on the Presidentโ€™s orders.

    DemeraraWaves:

    In an ongoing โ€˜First Rift,โ€™ Guyanaโ€™s First Lady, Varshnie Singh-Jagdeo, said she has been barred from entering State House and that she would later Tuesday comply with a formal request for her to remove from the premises.

    She planned to take a truck to State House on Tuesday afternoon to remove her possessions. Presidential spokesman, Kwame Mc Koy, told Demerara Waves that he was looking at the First Ladyโ€™s statement and would advise when a reaction would be made.

    She has been ordered to leave State House, effectively marking what appeared to be the end of a 10-year old lonely and virtually penniless marriage during which she said she was the victim of โ€œhigh-techโ€ domestic violence.

    Speaking at a news conference at the Pegasus Hotel, Singh-Jagdeo said that on 5th January, 2009 she received a letter dated 2nd January, 2009 from President Bharrat Jagdeoโ€™s lawyer, Anil Nandlall, requesting that she โ€œvacate State House within 48 hours or I will be denied access to it.โ€

    Though she had responded, asking to keep her room until she returned on April 1 from overseas fundraising activities, the First Lady recounted that she was allegedly barred from entering State House on 19th January.

    โ€œOn the 19 January when I returned to State House I was denied access on the Presidentโ€™s instruction. I have no clothing apart from what you see me wearing here,โ€ she said.
    Singh-Jagdeo announced that she would close the office of her Kids First Fund charity for sick and under-privileged children and return to the United Kingdom to earn a living to support her charitable work.

    โ€œThis is not what I want to do, as Guyana is my home and I have a right to live and work here. Due to the unfair discrimination I am suffering at the hands of our president and his agents, I have no choice, she added.

    Since she and the President two years ago announced their separation, the First Lady announced that she had allegedly lived a virtually lonely and neglected woman.

    โ€œAlthough my personal life was dysfunctional and non-existent, my official or professional life was very productive and compensated to an extent for what was lacking in other areas,โ€ said Singh-Jagdeo

    She alleged that for almost two years from 2003 to 2004, she had been denied access to the Presidentโ€™s apartment at State House and if she was not at home by 6 PM, the apartmentโ€™s door would be locked with the latch from inside โ€œso my key could not open it.โ€

    โ€œEven if I was home at 6PM I would be in my room by myself, where all I could do was read and listen to music. We were two people living separately under one roof,โ€ she added.

  34. INDENTURED SERVANT Avatar
    INDENTURED SERVANT

    To Anonymous // January 31, 2009 at 9:14 am . You said: ” Indentured servant, your days are numbered in Barbados.

    There is soon coming a day when you will wish you never heard the name Barbados.

    One Day Coming Soon.”

    Yes Anonymous, “coming soon.” Like Jesus. Don’t hold your breath!

    BTW: I notice you or no one else (unless I missed it) has answered the question posed to Scout:

    Do you think American and British people should be competing with Bajans for work in their own country?

    If you don’t mind I’d also like to ask โ€ฆ “how do Bajans working in a foreign country feel about taking away jobs from the people in whose country they reside?

    PLEASE REMEMBER TO REPLY. Thanks.

  35. Cunnnnttttttttt Avatar

    I have some questions:

    If there is truly going to be a SHAKE UP, is the former CIO Greaves going to be moved from being the Permanent Secretary, Defence and Security.

    Why are they still advertisements in the newspapers asking for example Roti Maker, child and elderly care etc.

    Why is Government allowing non-nationals access to education without paying whilst Bajans are crying out for school places for their children.

    Why allow persons to receive work permit when they were here illegally in the first place and why aren’t business people not prosecuted when they break the law.

    Why doesn’t education and immigration collaborate more to lessen the burdens on school.

    Is it because that Senator McClean and Ms. Williams were following the immigration laws that they were moved.

    When are the Guyanese going to leave!

    How can you implement CARIPASS!


  36. I will reply If the bajans are there illegally, THEY SHOULD COME TO SHITE BACK HOME!

    I will ask a question to you when will you go home? I am not holding my breath!

    When did all of this nonsense start?

    Why are the people all over the world kicking up pist about this issue?

    I know that it is not just us bajans

    How comes people like YOU can come to my country and feel you have the right to say something and we dont?

    For centuries persons have been migrating to other persons’ COUNTRIES but not in this way.

    Stupse!

  37. INDENTURED SERVANT Avatar
    INDENTURED SERVANT

    Just wondering …. JC // January 31, 2009 at 3:47 pm – are you directing your question to me …”when will you go home?”

    If you are… fyi my foreparents and the generations that followed, were born here since the late 1600’s. So was I… 50 years ago. I believe this gives me “the right” to roost here. I believe your foreparents may have been born here too, but I may be mistaken.

    Tell you what: both of us can “go back home.” On the same ship.


  38. Indentured servant

    A criminal,lawbreaker like you can’t ask me any question.

    However I will say; this watch carefully at how black average bajans are relating to you and your people.

    Look carefully at the bajan faces and soon you will get the answer to your future.

    Notice for the most part they don’t even look directly into your face.

    Early this week I was in a public place where black bajans were gathered and there were 2 indians present.

    The expression on the faces of the bajans told everything.Not one looked at,smiled with or even acknowledged the presence of the indians.

    You can always tell when a blcak man is boiling up inside,and I can tell you those bajans there were not amused by the presence of the indians.

    They are fed up and are not doing too much talking anymore.

    It is up to Mr Thompson to wait forever to do what he has to do.


  39. ID, you obviously think you have a bombshell of an argument so i gine help you move it along.

    I take your question as it is:

    ” Should American and British people have to compete with Bajans for work in their own country?”

    NO

    Do they and on what scale?

    Over to you now!

  40. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Now that the job market is contracting, it is the best reason for sending home Guyanese. They have outlived their welcome, if they ever they were welcome, and they must remember that the Barbados Labour Party is no longer in office.

    We the electorate removed them from office because they were flooding this country with Guyanese to the detriment of Barbadians.


  41. ust wondering โ€ฆ. JC // January 31, 2009 at 3:47 pm – are you directing your question to me โ€ฆโ€when will you go home?โ€

    If you areโ€ฆ fyi my foreparents and the generations that followed, were born here since the late 1600โ€™s. So was Iโ€ฆ 50 years ago. I believe this gives me โ€œthe rightโ€ to roost here. I believe your foreparents may have been born here too, but I may be mistaken.

    Tell you what: both of us can โ€œgo back home.โ€ On the same ship.
    ————————————————
    ha ha ha lol you so funny so you were here for 50- years and think that you have the right to talk shite ha ha ha My family was here FOREVER!

    What same ship shite! 50 years you fool you came by plane! You never suffered one shite.

    My grandmother was the leader of the gang (IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS) and a bad BARROW woman!

    Your family came when things were sweet compared to her time you have no right to question my love for my country!

    I dont think that the argument should be how long some of us were here it has to do with what is best for OUR COUNTRY!

    Furthermore, answer the other questions! Oh you and your little 50 year ole mind ha ha ha ha think you know something about Barbados I can tell you stories that were passed on about Barbados stupes !

    I think that because we have opened up our doors to you and yours you THINK


  42. Just to help this discussion along there are estimated to be 800,000 legal foreign workers in the US, in a population 1,000 times the pop. of Bim.

    The latest total of US unemployed is 11.1 million.


  43. I forgot to add there are estimated to be 12 million illegal immigrants in the US.


  44. @ Adrian,In fact Barbados immigration laws have been ahead of the curve of even the US & the UK,by placing Bajan citizens first actually into law for employment.

    Currently,the US is trying to see if they can do something similar.There was a recent article I had read that Senator Chuck Grassley asked Microsoft to lay off foreign workers first & keep U.S. citizens on the payroll & the U.K. government is currently trying to do something similar by not advertising jobs overseas,but cannot offer British first employment due to EU laws on free-movement.

    The fact is that Indentured Servant’s question is ambiguous at best.We are talking about people who have absolutely NO right to be in Barbados under the law & as such isn’t worth debating,here in the U.S. it is what we call a”no-brainer”.Those who are in Barbados illegally should be deported & are definitely NOT entitled to ANY benefits whatsoever from BIM.


  45. IS I didn’t read your comments properly and was hasty to answer for that part I apologise. However, I am of the opinion that you could never be a true bajan or not you would want what is best for your country and that is proper immigration policies!


  46. Jay i take your points, very good ones indeed. I decided not to ask ID for specifics, so that he can move his argument along, at some point to build his case he has to define “compete”.


  47. Indentured servant is not a bajan!

  48. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    I see that Mr Hinds has really gone to town. But let me help a little. My ‘borrowed’ acent is I guess what usually happens to young children when they leave their mother land and live in another country for 30-40 years. My Jamaican accent also got diluted in a few of those snooty English institutions, where one is expected to speak a certain way. Shame on me. My daughter has already gained a Bajan accent after her two years here, and still has her French from living with that tongue. Poor her for being bilingual. At five that is a heavy burden.

    As to my views, I take issue with many things here and elsewhere and do not feel constrained that just because sugar is in a cup that the brew is really sweet. Many of my issues are echoed by Bajans themselves. For example the extensive debate about eduacation.

    If insults are to be bandied about feel free to throw, but do not worry if none are caught or thrown back.

    I was interested to see the report in today’s Sun about another Bajan arrested for robbery in the US, and only cite it and the other to say that it’s a weak line of argument about any race that the sins of their migrants show anything more than the sin of the individual.

    If David Ellis is reading I will let him answer on his invitations pending. as for what an international economist is, it is one who concerns him or herself with international economic issues, not just that of a single country. I could list the countries where I have worked and the issues I have worked on, but I see no need. Thanks for such stimulting material to ponder and have a blessed day.


  49. YAWN! Non nationals who are illegal GO HOME!


  50. I have read that idiot Norman Faria article,but in truth & fact I cannot really understand the gist of his argument.

    Can anyone enlighten me on what the points the fool was trying to make?

    This Norman Faria is stoking the flames and he wants Barbadians to get involve in a confrontation with Guyanese especially the Indo-Guyanese human germs so as to play the unfortunate victim’s role.
    Norman Faria your wish is about to come true.

    Norman Faria knows that this government is not serious with its reforms in the immigration department.There is not going to be any major shake up at the immigration department.The Prime Minister is bluffing as usual.
    If this government was serious with immigration a serious dent would had been made in the amount of illegals in Barbados.The new immigration policy will be in the public domain for our responses.There will have been Town Hall meetings to discuss this issue.Nothing of the sort has been done.We have a new minister of immigration and I have not heard him said 1 word on the immigration issue in Barbados.Norman Faria,Rickey Singh and all the Guyanese in Barbados have nothing to fear from this present government.Nothing will be done.This government is complicit in the whole affair.

    Norman Faria you are a king in Barbados I must admit.I concede you are a very powerful & influential person in Barbados who have thwarted the efforts of this government to accede to the wishes of the majority of Barbadians who voted for a change and for positive action to be taken against non-nationals especially the Indo-Guyanese scums.
    Norman Faria you have rewritten our immigration laws.I said congratulations.

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