Fiscal Problem In Barbados ! eb2d17288e33d24ec34a90fd04dca0d0 Dr. Justin Robinson recently shared some interesting information on Facebook, he attempted to breakout government expenditure and revenues – see the presentation, ‘facts on the Fiscal Situation in Barbados last 20 years. A focus on Transfers and Subsidies‘.

Successive governments have been challenged by the size of the transfers and subsidies allocation and it has become more so in the last decade given the fiscal challenges being experienced. Although out of the scope the blogmaster used the opportunity to question the chairman of the NIS about government’s non NIS pension liability. Private registered pension plans AND the NIS receive input from actuaries to inform the level of funding required to ensure they are able to meet future obligations.

It is an open secret the pension plan which covers statutory agencies, members of parliament and other public sector agencies continue to be a significant pension expense for government. From arms distance the fund appears to be ‘under-funded’. This is the interesting point of the exchange on Facebook with the Chairman.

David King Interesting to see how you sliced the time series Sir. Was this by special request?
Justin Robinson I just went decade by decade
David King Do you have analysis of the pension expense for the same period for public sector separated by MPs, PSs, and other grades? Any info at all?
Justin Robinson the pensions were only broken out as a separate line item from the years shown. we can make some inferences. There is supposed to have been a sharp increase in retirements in the last five years or so.
Justin Robinson I am hoping that a comprehensive reform program is part of the campaign, so we can get buy in from the populace.
David King The concern by many is the existing burgeoning pension obligation.
Justin Robinson the unfunded pensions in the public service is a major issue that needs to be addressed. No doubt about that one. With pensions and interest, there has been less flexibility in terms of public expenditure than many think.
David King How is the pension managed? Who has oversight? Is it that the government has recourse to fund therefore there is no legal obligation to ensure the plan is adequately funded?
Justin Robinson the pensions mentioned are those not covered by the NIS.
Justin Robinson the public sector has a fairly large legacy of noncontributory pensions.
Justin Robinson as Philip mentioned persons have legal entitlements that were never part of a contributory scheme.
See full exchange on Facebook page – FB Senate

This is a highly technical issue and one worthy of public discourse to ensure an ignorant public is educated about one of the more hidden liabilities taxpayers and their children will have to honour in years to come. Here is a link to the approved 2017 -2018 Government Estimates. Select the Find option and enter the word pension, the size of the pension expense  of government will shock you.

The blogmaster is hopeful the BU intelligentsia will assist with the defogging of the issue.

105 responses to “Unfunded Government Pension a Worry”


  1. A question please. Will each of the current Government Ministers aged over 50 and having served two terms qualify for a pension for life and will they pay tax on this? What is the current pension payable?

  2. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    “….the unfunded pensions in the public service is a major issue that needs to be addressed. No doubt about that one. With pensions and interest, there has been less flexibility in terms of public expenditure than many think.”

    This obvious ‘fact’ has been known for decades now; probably going back to the Tom Adams administration which saw it as a sleeping fiscal monster. Grantley S could attest.

    The question is what will be done (implemented) to ‘address’ the problem which will soon blow up fiscally in the government’s face?

    Will there be the political will to implement what the current MoF proposed as a
    ‘partial’ solution to stem the rising fiscal tide by making contributions by existing employees mandatory (workplace pension as in the UK) or all future workers made responsible for their own pension arrangements outside of their NIS obligations?

    The impending burden from the 1950’s baby boomers must be faced head-on immediately.

    Walter Blackman has been warning us for a long time now.

    We all know what is going to happen sooner or later. If nothing is done sooner, then later the IMF will be removing these unfunded entitlements.


  3. @Miller

    Is this ‘contingent liability’ read expenditure albatross addressed in the government’s soon to be released Recovery Plan?

    Note to be fair to this government it had to expense an extraordinary pension item to pay BDF monies.


  4. Adrian Loveridge January 19, 2018 at 8:15 AM #

    A question please. Will each of the current Government Ministers aged over 50 and having served two terms qualify for a pension for life and will they pay tax on this? What is the current pension payable?(Quote)

    Are we not debating how to get the best out of a corrupt system? It is this pensions for life system that attracts lawyers like bees to honey.
    What we need is to get rid of the pensions for life and replace them with a pay-off for those MPs who have lost their seats.
    I have previously suggested a six-month resettlement grant, based on their annual fees (MPs do not get salaries since they are not employees). This will get rid of the problem.
    Or, in Bajan style, we prefer to discuss the minutiae of a systems that is not fit for purpose.


  5. Adrian, see response from Caswell:

    A parliamentarian qualifies for a pension after serving 8 years. They qualify for a maximum pension after serving 12 years. Public officers qualify a pension after serving 10 years. They qualify for their maximum pension after serving thirty-three and one-third years. Workers at statutory boards qualify for a maximum pension after 40 years

    Pension Gratuity
    P.M. 8,465.65 423,282.50

    Minister (8 years) 4,761.94 238,096.88

    Minister (12 years) 6,349.35 317,462.50

    Parl Sec (8 years) 4,622.70 231,134.81

    Parl Sec (12 years) 6,163.58 303,179.17

    Please note the 8 and 12 years relate to time served in the House, not necessarily as a minister or parliamentary secretary. In order to qualify for a pension at the level of a minister or parliamentary secretary, an MP only has to serve in either of those capacities for three months.


  6. We need to cut these pensions by at least 50 % in order to liberate the Barbadian taxpayer, who is the slave of 21st century.

    No pain, no gain. All these bureaucratic plantocrats should not complain, since they have done nothing for Barbados. Only hot air, talk, debt.

  7. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David January 19, 2018 at 8:55 AM

    Government is a continuum except when it comes to ‘wastefully’ discretionary spending areas like funding football tournaments and useless parasitic constituency councils while the sewage system is breaking down.

    The BDF is one area which is ripe for restructuring. It is just a luxury for power-drunk politicians which the 2×3 country can no longer afford in its current fiscal straightjacket.

    This is one area where Hal Austin makes ‘affordable’ dollar and sense contributions.

    BTW, that much overdue self-designed homegrown “recovery plan” will be nothing but another ‘unimplementable’ incarnation of the same MoF’s December 2013 recovery plan still to be implemented.

    But do you really feel the kind of ‘austere’ plan which is needed to stem the current fiscal hemorrhaging and foreign reserves bleeding can be presented to the public for ‘ratification’ just before elections are due?

    Maybe De liar Worrell is being surreptitiously ‘re-employed’ as a political consultant to psychologically prepare the people for what is on the fiscal cards after they return to office the DLP.


  8. @Miller

    This unfunded pension issue as your alluded in a comment above straddles administrations. We have to discuss the matter in context. It is too serious a matter to be framed in a partisan way.


  9. David

    Some years ago we warned you that large corporations or HNW individuals were fixing to buy countries through the assumption of debt. That Barbados may soon receive offers to change it’s name, national anthem etc from well known brands.

    Bill Gates is starting with Nigeria – https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bill-gates-promised-to-pay-off-this-countrys-dollar76-million-debt-—-now-hes-doing-it/ar-AAuRIkk?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

    Amazon has received an offer from a US county to change its name to that of the corporation if it relocates a warehouse.

    Capitalism gone mad?

    Maybe these pensions could be so paid!


  10. @Pacha

    A transmogrification of FIAT?

  11. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    “They qualify for a maximum pension after serving 12 years. ”

    See how greedy ministers have been, now dont they think if they had done their jobs as SERVANTS and not uncaring masters of the people, the electorate would have been willing to give them a maximum pension, well they blew that one.

    They gotta change the structure of these pension payments, they look like welfare and handouts whether the ministers work or not..,.and we know there are a lot of…or nots…

    ……..so tie minister’s accomplishments over the life of their parliamentary stints to payments…or they dont get anything

    No more free lunches, no wonder politicians all clamor with their mouth filled with lies to the people, jostling to be elected.

  12. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    …..so tie minister’s accomplishments over the life of their parliamentary stintsSHOULD BE TIED to THESE payments…or they dont get anything

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David January 19, 2018 at 10:19 AM

    Isn’t the same chair of the NIS operating in a “partisan” way by not belling the cat and failing to tell it like it is?

    This is 2018 and the NIS financials for many years are still outstanding.

    How can he talk or pronounce about pensions or on whatever fiscal or financial problem without ‘objective’ information to base his decisions or for that matter, any other users that require information to make serious decisions?

    Shouldn’t he be considering ‘resignation’ before he is forced to, like Worrell?
    He, along with Worrell and Alleyne, has contributed tremendously to the current parlous state of fiscal and monetary affairs because of the obsequious silence in allowing the MoF to screw-up the entire country.

    Look at how Worrell is now trying to behave like a professional 4 years too late.

    Would he be assigning blame to ‘somebody else’ after the IMF takes over?

    It has been an overly long time that he, as the head of a committee, submitted a report in respect of the restructuring of the SOE’s requested by the MoF 4 years ago.

    Now what has happened since then? Isn’t the unfunded pension problem an integral part of the same SOE’s funding scenario?

    The political circus is in town; so there is only smoke and mirrors, fun and games, concerts and free food to be taken seriously. Not the fiscal emergency required to save the country from economic meltdown and Devaluation to wipe the smiles of their faces.


  14. Thank you David and Caswell. Just two points please. Is this pension payable for life and is it taxable at normal rates?


  15. UNFUNDED PENSIONS are not an issue. Let all unfunded pension plans collapse, justice for all the lazy assed civil servants, politicians, board etc. employees that have been living off the avails of taxpayers for years. HARSH JUSTICE but justified, what goes around comes around.


  16. @Adrian

    Pension is paid until death. Will leave the other question for someone to answer.


  17. @Wily

    What kind of advice is that? What about the people that deserve their pensions?

  18. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    Civil Servants’ pensions were always charges on the Consolidated Fund. They are now to be paid from the NIS ;and GOB and the beneficiaries are to make contributions going forward.

    What is so difficult to understand ?

    Most state corporations were supposed to have their own pension schemes like the private sector corporations. Did somebody drop the ball again?

    Tom Adams envisioned this move years ago. As I said in a previous intervention we are just bouncing from pillar to post like atomic particles. There is no conceptual difference. We have to finance both schemes collectively. David you may be preconceiving a non problem.


  19. @David

    Any pensioner “that deserves a pension” can go and complain to their BDLP Management to see if any member is willing to part with his/her Mercedes, BMW, Foreign Bank Account etc. to pay poor civil servants pension.

    You want to let your politicians operate with immunity then you’ll have to be prepared for the consequences. HARSH JUSTICE. Bajan’s have been beggars since colonial days, they have it down to a science, go practice on your DBLP overlords.

    One of the basic laws of science is “EVERY ACTION HAS AN EQUAL RE-ACTION”, welcome to the reality re-action.


  20. @David

    Another Wily Coyote prophesy ” New Government Insurance Company RES LIFE is doomed to failure”, my estimate gives them no more than 3 years to join CLICO in bankruptcy. This 3 year estimate could be much sooner depending on the pending Financial Collapse of the Barbadian Government.

  21. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    It is very important to understand what we are dealing with before we attempt to correct apparent malfunction. As Miller said in an earlier contribution:” There is good reason why we do not let monkeys play with guns”.

  22. Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service Avatar
    Well Well @ Cut and Paste @ Your Service

    are there no quarterly reviews of employees performances, they are ALL employees of the people and should be getting quarterly or biannual assessments on their job performances…

    this includes government ministers who sees their job titles and salaries as some kinda entitlement without showing their employers, the people, what they have achieved or accomplished every cycle. before having access to these bloated pensions.


  23. @Bernard

    There is a science to funding pension plans as far as our layman’s understanding goes. With an ageing customer base offsetting pension expenditures from the consolidated fund with the prevailing state of affairs this is not sustainable is it?


  24. A decade, the world went through a period of pensions reforms; Barbados even brought in the 2003 Act which all its faults.
    It failed to capitalise on the reforms that had taken place: 1981 in Chile, the New Zealand Kiwisaver, the Australian superannuation, the UK stakeholder, the US 401(k). There have also been reforms in Poland, Hungary, Germany, France and others.
    Why do we have to try to re-invent the wheel when it comes to social policy? All we have to do in the current circumstances, in regard to MPs salaries, is to commit the leading parties shaping up for the general election to a reform of the system before the election.
    We have a good idea they would not: remember their recently voting for a pay increase.
    Until something fundamental is done, the talk is just hot air. It is like giving the prime minister and governor general a 100 per cent pension. In the case of the GG, after a successful professional career.


  25. @Wily

    Targeting the benefits of the public servant is not the best approach. This is not where the problem is located.


  26. The insurance ‘brand’ has taken a beating let us wait to see if there is a public education program to address this challenge.

  27. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    I am lost in interpreting the numbers provided.

    The reader is told, when dissecting T&S as an expense category, it comprises of
    *Grants to public institutions
    *Retiring Benefits – Public Servants Pensions
    *Subsidies
    *Grants to individuals – principally constituted of support to the welfare department and support for bursaries for children in some private schools through the ministry of education , as well as national development scholarships.
    *Grants to non-profit organizations
    *Subscriptions and contributions

    Then a numerical breakout is provided, titled 2000-2016 Major Transfers (does this include subsidies?). The glaring change occurs in 2010-11 when category “Grants to Individuals” goes from 0 in prior years to $304M, and continues as an expense annually thereafter. And the total within category listed items DOUBLES. It is also in this year the column title “Share” kicks in.

    Based upon the descriptions provided, there is a disconnect. WHAT changed in reporting in 2010-11 year? And where are the retiring benefits included?

  28. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    I suspect Mr.Loveridge would know this. I see 4 ‘tourism focused’ related entries…the BTA (which in unrecognised in the State Owned entity listing, but I think is the Barbados Tourist Authority?), the BTMI, the BTPA, and BTII.

    I thought the BTMI and BTPA were to replace the BTA? Yet under fiscal 2015-16 I see numbers associated with each. I note the BTMI+BTPA = BTA. Isn’t this double entries? I suspect the BTA should have gone to $0.

  29. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Also noted is prior to 2012-13 the expense related to BAMC Barbados Agricultural Management Company, was $0? In 2012-13 it appears as a $27M item, increasing annually to $56M in 2015-16.
    I note for the fiscal year ended June 2013, it was the TWENTIETH annual report.
    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/f45b56de9c0e4e489ee6807ee3ac26b2.pdf

    What changed in reporting?
    Readers will also note from the Annual Report p6 a $13M NIS loan, and an ANSA Bank bond for ‘up to’ $72.5. [I have been told frequently ANSA has been funding the GoB, I just never knew how]


  30. Thanks for your analysis so far NO.


  31. Why is it when some bajan politicians retire no-one sees the difference of when they were working

  32. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Because there is frequent talk in the BU Halls about “small business” here is the last (that I can find) Annual Report for THE BARBADOS AGENCY FOR MICRO ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT LTD.
    (FUNDACCESS)
    It is for 2011, but filed in mid 2014.
    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/3ee3b0ae731376c93977aba58132b61e.pdf

  33. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @John [or anyone who knows]
    because you know about things agricultural and sugar. How do these various bodies relate?
    Barbados Cane Industry Corporation (BCIC)
    Cane Industry Restructuring Project (BCIRP)
    Barbados Agricultural Management Company (BAMC)
    Barbados Agricultural Credit Trust Ltd (BACT)
    never heard of this before…last report I can find, says BAMC is a subsidiary https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/a865d9c4a6e9b68339ee879a3c80a6b8.pdf.

    [I omitted Barbados Agricultural Development & marketing Corporation (BAMDC), for I believe that is non sugar related?]


  34. David January 19, 2018 at 4:37 PM #

    Interesting parallel story out of the UK.

    http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/news/fscs-announces-24m-extra-levy-as-sipp-claims-continue-to-grow/a1080827

    A Sipp is not an occupational pension.

  35. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    what is it…a self directed retirement plan?
    if so….what are the claims for?


  36. A self-invested personal pension (Sipp).

  37. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Found this from mid 2017 where the MoF commented on several of the bodies included the T&S equation
    https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/news/no-rushing-merger

  38. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    and so the claims?…when one of the investments approved by HMRC goes bad?


  39. The FSCS guarantees all personal investments to the tune of £85000; so, if a bank or insurance company collapses then the FSCS will pay out within days. So investors spread their money around. There is a short window, for example, people who have sold real estate and have to bank the money, but they must move it fairly quickly.

  40. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    @ David at 1 :58 PM

    Yes there is a science to retiree pensions. It is in Demography and Actuarial Science. An aging population becomes a dying population to whom no pension is paid. So in a sense it is sustainable.


  41. NorthernObserver January 19, 2018 at 5:02 PM #

    and so the claims?…when one of the investments approved by HMRC goes bad?

    What exactly do you mean?

  42. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @HA you answered already re FSCS guarantee


  43. @Bernard

    Doesn’t the science factor the mortality rate? Is it about dying per s and not funding? The numbers in the Estimates clearly show it is growing.

  44. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    @ David at 5:22 PM

    Where in this submission is the pension transfer figures ? You asked for them and they were not provided.
    The age of retirement was raised by a factor higher than the mortality rate was increasing/improving.
    In addition Public Servants will now be under the unified pension scheme, receiving in the future one NIS pension like the rest of the private sector pensioners.

    A significant number of retired public servants do not live to enjoy pensions for too many years after retiring.

    So we need to see the figures before we rush to judgement.

  45. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    @ David

    Time and time again I have warned you about framing of points in arguments. Transfer for Pensions was put top of that list,and you assumed that it comprised the largest portion of transfers. Soi did I .


  46. @Bernard

    So you differ with Robinson?

  47. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    My interim comment, beyond questions already raised, is in researching the various SOE’s mentioned, one reasonably consistent factor is the lack or absence of timely reporting.
    Much seems to come via barabados parliament links, for which I cannot find a common front door.
    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Needhams%20Point%20Holdings%20Annual%20Report%202012.pdf
    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Needham%20Point%20Dev't%20Inc%20Annual%20Report%202012.pdf
    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/b04983771184954fa54b72f10948e617.pdf

    Hence one has no way of knowing the most recent, beyond Google.

  48. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    I suspect we are all at the same point?

    Bernard Codrington January 19, 2018 at 5:40 PM #
    @ David at 5:22 PM
    Where in this submission is the pension transfer figures ?
    NorthernObserver January 19, 2018 at 2:40 PM #
    And where are the retiring benefits included?


  49. Isn’t the Auditor General Report the best source to determine if financials were audited?

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