The management of Massy Supermarket Worthing refuses to close that outlet.
Dr. Robert D. Lucas
Dun-Low lane
Bridgetown
Barbados, BB11157
Tel.246-426-6512
11th, January2018
Barbados Underground
Bridgetown, Barbados
West Indies
Dear Sir/Madam,
Currently, there is a clamor about the health hazards posed by the condition of the South Coast Sewerage system. Indeed, the acting Chief Medical Officer (CMO) is on record as having stated that microbial assays of potable water and the environment were found to be negative for enteric organisms. His position was augmented by the Massy’s Group of Companies (MGC) in the print media. In the latter case, MGC claimed to have engaged the services of a firm and that between the firm and local government departments, the area surrounding its Supermarket was being disinfected thrice daily (I will deal with this practice later on). In all instances according to MGC, no indicator pathogenic enteric organisms were detected. No mention was made of viral or protozoan pathogenic causative agents of cholera, hepatitis, and dysentery and so on. Since the above pronouncements, the CMO has now acknowledge that there are thirty-five cases of gastroenteritis. Prior to this acknowledgement, it was reported in the local print media, that there were twelve cases of gastroenteritis in the affected area and that fish had died. Having admitted that there were cases of gastroenteritis, the CMO must concede that there has been some type of contamination on the South Coast. The CMO is now disputing the American claim that sewerage has been discharged into the sea. (I will deal with this later).
The following is written in the public interest. Let me start by saying that the authorities dealing with microbial assays are either remarkably incompetent or else they have been placed under gagging orders. The absence of disease causing agents signifies nothing. As I will now show. The assays alluded to above did not indicate the assay protocols used. The public is told assays were done, nothing-found end of story. Let me point out here that the microbial media used and protocol conditions all have a bearing on the detection rates. This particularly so under the following conditions:
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The causative agent is present in the environment in trace amounts. For example, testing seawater. If there is one organism per cubic meter of seawater, one has to do lots of sampling.
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Causative agent has been exposed to hostile environment and has been injured, thereby requiring special enumerating media and conditions. For example, “enteric (gut) organisms including coliforms are generally adapted to relatively high nutrient and solute concentrations, but low oxygen concentrations due to the nature of their natural habitat and when exposed to oxygen show an increase loss of viability”. Roslev, P. 2004 “Effect of oxygen on survival of fecal pollution indicators in drinking water”. Journal of Applied Microbiology .96:5: 938-945.
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The type of storage medium/diluent used. For example if samples of salted-fish are placed in sterile distilled water, lysis of microbial cells occur resulting in death, since cell have been moved from salt environment to a non-salt environment. As a result, no microorganisms will be detected.
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The timing and frequency of sampling. If sampling is done immediately after disinfecting, obviously there will be fewer organisms detected. MGC did not specify when sampling was done.
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The causative agent is present as an aerosol and sampling is done on solids and water only. Since vehicles passed through the area, one would expect aerosols to form and the wide distribution of the causative agent.
The practice of frequently exposing a microbial population to disinfectants is a hostile action. This type of activity is referred to as selective pressure and causes the microbes to undergo mutations and to develop resistance to antibiotics (if the hostile agents are antibiotics) or resistance to the disinfectant as the case maybe. If the microorganisms are exposed to moist, solid surfaces such as is the case of the local sewerage, biofilm forms. A biofilm is a thin layer of densely packed microorganisms encapsulated within an aqueous matrix of proteins, nucleic acid and polysaccharides. These characteristics combined with strong cohesive properties and sophisticated collaboration make biofilms highly resistant to conventional cleansing agents such as biocides and disinfectants. Bacteria use quorum sensing (use of chemical molecular signals) to coordinate certain behaviors of the cells in biofilm (exhibit resiliency in the presence of chemical and physical stressors such as pH values, oxygen, pressure, heat, and cold).
The CMO is keeping a lot of noise about the America’s claim that raw sewerage has been discharged into the sea. I wonder if the CMO has ever heard of the terms in geography “surface run off and percolation.” With all the rain the country has been experiencing recently and the lack of gutters on the roads, surely one would expect some kind of discharge into the sea. For his information, the Americans can use remote sensing from aircraft or from space to detect microbial growth in the oceans. “Remote sensing instruments exploit electromagnetic radiation to study surface processes on earth. Passive sensors use reflected sunlight or heat being emitted by objects along the earth’s surface, while active sensors transmit laser or microwaves that are then reflected back to and recorded by the sensor. Many orbiting satellites currently map ocean properties such as color, surface temperature, height, wind velocities, roughness of the ocean surface, and wave height. Salinity, as well as the vegetation canopy using active light detection and ranging (LIDAR)” Douglas G. Capone and Ajit Subramaniam.2004. “Seeing Microbes from Space.” American Society of Microbiology. 71: 4: 179-186. Fecal matter contains nitrates and phosphates and when discharged in rivers and the oceans algal blooms occur resulting in changes in sea color. Using algorithms the biochemical signals of a particular organism can be used to detect its presence from space. In any event, the DNA profile of microbes present in the sewerage can be extracted and compared with the DNA of the microbes isolated from the thirty-five suspected cases of gastroenteritis.
Sincerely
Robert D. Lucas, PH.D.
Food biotechnologist
Politicians and their lackeus lie, just because they could..
..the US is many things..
…… but they are always on point when it comes to the welfare, health and wellbeing of their citizens who live in other countries.
“Today the sluice gate at Worthing was emitting brown water which was running into the sea.”
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/11/bim-wants-country-to-issue-a-24-hour-ultimatum-to-pm/
Photo of raw sewage which is now being redirected by the opening of the sluice gate to the sea in Worthing, from leaking onto the streets in Worthing to Hastings.
We see that the anti-Christian the criminal god has appointed (or anointed) Trump, according to BU’s leading Trumpian, has called Haiti, the Caribbean and Afrika ‘shithole’ countries.
Not because sewerage in running in the streets.
For Norway is not a shithole country. Norway is maybe more than 99% white. A country with the Hitlerian ‘master race’ Trump believes.
Shiiite running in the streets was not the consideration, race was. Race has always been!
We wonder when the island scholars, the raaassssssoul Christian, 11-plus slave boys, complete c^ntholes who have defended this modern day mad man of a Hitler, a racist to the bone operating under the misbegotten rubric of Christianity will come to their senses, if they have any.
How is it possible that our so-called best and brightest to support the most ignorant madman in our world?
What kind of wickedness could this religion be?
All we can hope for is that the dick which Mueller has up Trump’s ‘shithole’ is as large as a tree. That considerable pain will soon be brought to bear on god’s appointed as argued by the dispensationalist-dominionists.
Lol blame the messenger, clean up your act and it is the sewage and garbage in the streets.
One gets the impression the public utterances of the CMO on this matter have been politically ‘flavored’.
Lol…on point Pacha, but the illiterate racist squatting in the shithole of a white house built by Black slaves also just handed immigration lawyers in the US all the ammunition they need to win every immigration case.
Ah waiting for 45frausterthetrumpskidmark to leak out onto the blog and call me a racist, he is late..lol
Ya should see the beautiful photos of Haiti and Africa people posted to facebook, showing the wonderful shithole they got, you only hear the negatives of these countries caused by nasty, corrupt greedy presidents, prime ministers and ministers, that is the only reason they leave their countries, bribery and corruption practiced by business people in collusion with politicians and leaders, ruins their living standards, causes civil wars and poverty, causing them to run..
DR LUCAS HAS POSTED AN INTERESTING TREATISE ON ADVANCED MICROBIOLOGY RELEVANT TO THE ISSUES IN THE AREA OF CH CH WHERE I GREW UP………..AND THE RESPONSES BY THE BU BRIMBLERS IS AS EXPECTED AND VERY PATHETHIC! MURDAH!
IF WUNNAH CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAN SAID, WHY DONT WUNNAH SHUT UP!
Whe government gives these starving doctors jobs, they feel beholden and would tell lies, be dishonest, destroy lives, become perrenial yardfowls for ministers….. forgetting the oath they took……forgeting their code of ethics……….that is what you get in banana republics…..
…that is why George now finds himself looking stupid……and unprofessional, it is not like he did not know the wide array of diseases inhaling shit could cause….he was trying to cover it up like a dangerous little yardfowl would.
Lawson…..in the meantime, the UN is investigating the racist, everything is going as planned…lol
“Donald Trump’s reported remark branding Haiti, El Salvador and unspecified African nations as “s***hole countries” has been branded racist by a UN human rights official. “If confirmed these are shocking and shameful comments from the President of the United States,”spokesperson Rupert Coleville said.”
@GP
The purpose of the article is to get reaction ah lie?
We laymen understand alright, he is saying that Massey’s methods of testing leave a lot to be desired and the CMO’s reaction to the US statement about sewage in the ocean is lacking in fundamental research and knowledge.
Ah got dat rite?
ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE ARTICLE IS TO EDUCATE. HOW CAN SEMI-ILLITERATES REACT TO INFORMATION THAT THEY DONT UNDERSTAND?
YOUR LAYMAN UNDERSTANDING MERELY SCRATCHES THE SURFACE. OK?
THE ARTICLE HAS MICROBIOLOGY AS ITS BASIS………THE RESPONSE IS ABOUT “he island scholars, the raaassssssoul Christian, 11-plus slave boys, complete c^ntholes who have defended this modern day mad man of a Hitler, a racist to the bone operating under the misbegotten rubric of Christianity will come to their senses, if they have any.
How is it possible that our so-called best and brightest to support the most ignorant madman in our world?What kind of wickedness could this religion be?”
Thanks, Dr . Lucas, for your comprehensive and incisive analysis of the issues. Brilliant as usual. As I have often said we have the local capabilities but we seldom use them.
it’s GPs day for senior moments, the ministry of health should be carrying out daily testing of the sea water, they are not, hence no information from George..
…. I doubt very much any of them have any specialist testing skills anyway….and would lie about the results anyway because they are government yardfowls with no ethics….
Pacha look….this is what the wicked fake christians admire and lovevabout the wicked fake jews, their evil criminal ways….selling drugs and body organs, murder and theft.
“The New Arab & agencies
Police arrest Israeli organ smuggling ‘mastermind’
Harel has been hunted by the authorities for almost a decade [AFP]
Date of publication: 6 January, 2018
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Moshe Harel, who was arrested in Cyprus on Saturday, is a suspected ringleader of a global gang of organ traffickers. Tags: Israel, organ traffickers, Cyprus, organ transplant
The Israeli ringleader of a global gang of organ traffickers has been arrested in Cyprus, Kosovan police said on Saturday.
Moshe Harel is suspected of organising dozens of illegal kidney transplants at the Medicus clinic in the capital Pristina in 2008, and is the man being held, according to local media.
“The suspect whose initials are MH was arrested a few days ago in Cyprus following an international arrest warrant” from Pristina, Kosovan police spokesman Baki Kelani told AFP.
Harel has been hunted by the authorities for almost a decade for exploiting victims, often recruited from poor areas in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, by promising 15,000 euros ($18,000) for their organs.
Recipients, mainly Israelis, would pay up to 100,000 euros for the transplant.
The organ trafficking network came to light in 2008 after a Turkish man collapsed at Pristina airport following a kidney removal operation.
Police raided the Medicus clinic, which shut following the scandal.
In 2013, an EU-led court in Kosovo sentenced five Kosovan doctors to up to eight years in prison for organ trafficking in the country.
Donors, whose organs were illegally removed, were left without proper medical care and treated “like waste,” prosecutors said at the time of the trial.
The Supreme Court of Kosovo annulled the verdict in 2016 and ordered a new trial, which is ongoing.”
Georgie Porgie January 12, 2018 at 9:15 AM #
“DR LUCAS HAS POSTED AN INTERESTING TREATISE ON ADVANCED MICROBIOLOGY RELEVANT TO THE ISSUES IN THE AREA OF CH CH WHERE I GREW UP………..AND THE RESPONSES BY THE BU BRIMBLERS IS AS EXPECTED AND VERY PATHETHIC! MURDAH!”
Georgie Porgie
I have known Dr. Robert “Peeka” Lucas personally, through a mutual friend from the time I was a youngster.
At “one stage” I think he was the only food biotechnologist in Barbados and although he may be a bit eccentric and arrogant, he is an expert in his field and his opinions should be respected.
In Bajan parlance “De man know wuh he talkin’ ‘bout.”
RE we have the local capabilities but we seldom use them.
IN FACT WE RAN THEM AWAY OR DISCOURAGE THEN FROM COMING BACK HOME TO SERVE
The wicked fake christians and fake jewish animals.
“IN FACT WE RAN THEM AWAY OR DISCOURAGE THEN FROM COMING BACK HOME TO SERVE..”
That is very sad development for any country.
Artax
I DO NOT KNOW DR LUCAS.
EVEN IF HE IS a bit eccentric and arrogant, he is CLEARLY an expert in his field and his opinions should be respected, BECAUSE, AS YOU CORRECTLY OPINE De man know wuh he talkin’ ‘bout.”
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RE “Today the sluice gate at Worthing was emitting brown water which was running into the sea.”
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2018/01/11/bim-wants-country-to-issue-a-24-hour-ultimatum-to-pm/
HERE IS AN ACCURATE AND INTERESTING RESPONSE ON BARBADOS TODAY TO THE ABOVE
The opening of the sluice gate to equalize water levels between the swamp and the sea has been happening for decades, more frequently in the past than in recent years.
While the photograph shown and the date stated may be accurate, it is misleading and dishonest to conflate that event with the current sewage problems. It suggests strongly that the effluent shown flowing into the sea is sewage, which it is not.
THAT “The opening of the sluice gate to equalize water levels between the swamp and the sea has been happening for decades, more frequently in the past than in recent years” IS A FACT. I USED TO SEE IT 60 YEARS AGO.
Nonsense comments will be deleted starting now.
Nonsense comments will be deleted starting now.
Who determines what is nonsense? Linear thinking?
The blogmaster determines.
Even though this article did nothing to resolve the crisis, it restored my faith in my educated countrymen. I was beginning to think we were educated but knew nothing. At least one educated man knows ‘stuff’. Wanted to write ‘shit’.
Well written, clear and informative.
@GP
This is why you have to post your presentations no matter what is said
I swear…Ha, Ha how many times you have to be reminded that the blog is not years, it is owned by someone and that someone is not you, have some respect..you do not make these determinations…lol
One gets the impression the public utterances of the CMO on this matter have been politically ‘flavored’…….OR THEY ARE DUE TO IGNORANCE!
DR LUCAS’ COMMENTS IS DEFINITELY ADVANCED MICROBIOLOGY
WHAT HE HAS POINTED OUT HERE IS NOT FOUND IN BASIC TEXTS OF MICROBIOLOGY OR EVEN THE USUAL MEDICAL MICROBIOLOGY TEXTS.
I DONT KNOW WHAT IS TAUGHT AT THE LEVEL FOR MPH OR IF THE ACTING CMO HAS A MPH
BUT CERTAINLY DR LUCAS IS CORRECT………..UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS, NEGATIVE TESTS ARE NOT ABSOLUTE AND MUST BE REPEATEDLY REEVALUATED.
ALSO THE DISINFECTANT PROGRAMS MAY LEAD TO “FALSE”NEGATIVES OR RESISTANCE TO ANTIBIOTICS.
I could swear the same Dr. Morley said he saw RAW sewage floating into the sea through the same sluice gate, only yesterday, he is not blind, he lives right out there, the photov is accurate, others, tourists…posted to various sites that they saw the same thing…
Covering this up will only make this even worse.
The blogmaster determines.
Is nonsense about foreign exchange real nonsense, or cutting edge economics? What about nonsense about the original language of the Bible being Latin? Is nonsense about a creative economy real nonsense? Is nonsense about tourism real nonsense, or good economic thinking?
This article accurate in content as to how bacteria can grow and thrive and become resistant .
In times of a national crisis what is needed is input that can help and this information would have been more helpful if it was forwarded to the ministries involved in assessing the problem rather than on BU where political grandstanding is the order of the day
RE In all instances according to MGC, no indicator pathogenic enteric organisms were detected. No mention was made of viral or protozoan pathogenic causative agents of cholera, hepatitis, and dysentery and so on.
WHAT DR LUCAS IS SAYING HERE IS THAT EVEN IF NO pathogenic enteric organisms were detected AN ALL CLEAR COULD NOT BE ISSUED OR REPORTED BY THE LAB UNLESS THEY HAD TESTED FOR ” viral or protozoan pathogenic causative agents of cholera, hepatitis, and dysentery and so on.”
RE Since the above pronouncements, the CMO has now acknowledge that there are thirty-five cases of gastroenteritis. Prior to this acknowledgement, it was reported in the local print media, that there were twelve cases of gastroenteritis in the affected area and that fish had died. Having admitted that there were cases of gastroenteritis, the CMO must concede that there has been some type of contamination on the South Coast.
WHAT DR LUCAS IS SAYING HERE IS THAT 35 PLUS 12 cases of gastroenteritis in the affected area and that fish had died DEMANDS A COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE STUDIES n the affected area TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE
IT SEEMS TO ME FROM THIS DISTANCE THAT THE EFFORTS OF PUBLIC HEALTH STALWARTS OF MEN LIKE SIR MAURICE BYER, VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, KR RAO ETC AND PUBLIC HEALTH LAB MEN LIKE MR BEST , FLR FRANCIS, DR DOSSANTOS ETC HAS GONE TO NAUGHT.
IN THEIR DAY WATER SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND WAS ROUTINELY TESTED ON A WEEKLY BASIS………..FAR LESS IN THE SITUATION OF A POTENTIAL EPIDEMIC.
I GUESS I MUST APOLOGISE TO THE DEPARTED HINKITH BELL AND THE GENERAL PUBLICFOR REFUSING HIS INVITATION TO BECOME A “TRAINED” PUBLIC HEALTH MEDICAL OFFICER, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT WE ARE PRACTISING THE THINGS I LEARNED FROM THE ABOVE MENTIONED TEACHERS, AND LEADERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH
What is the protocol when businesses are cited as the source of gastroenteritis in the population? Should the names of the two businesses be disclosed?
@ Georgie Porgie January 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM
“EVEN IF HE IS a bit eccentric and arrogant, he is CLEARLY an expert in his field and his opinions should be respected, BECAUSE, AS YOU CORRECTLY OPINE De man know wuh he talkin’ ‘bout.”
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LOL!!
Isn’t this a clear case of two birds of the same feather flocking together instead of the pot calling the kettle black?
PS: The above applies to your medical knowledge; not your contradicting convoluted religious gibberish of the Judeo-Christian variety.
In a related story how does this potentially add to the crisis on the South Coast? The movement of rodents.
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/119240/litterbugs-rats-boardwalk
It appears health inspectors have no say on the island, they are the ones determine if businesses should be closed, due to health threats….in the real world….
……but in a banana republic, it appears the tourism officials and ministers make that determination, so look out for more gastro and other contaminants…as long as sewage is following.
All businesses along that stretch of highway that are impacted, should be closed for health reasons,, as Morley warned.
@ David who wrote ” Should the names of the two businesses be disclosed ? ”
YES.
The businesses should then let the public know what steps they are taking and have taken to minimise risks to their customers.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/disgusting-video-shows-mice-feeding-on-pastry-at-toronto-bakery-1.3505535
Q. What is the protocol when businesses are cited as the source of gastroenteritis in the population? Should the names of the two businesses be disclosed?
A. the names of the two businesses NEED NOT be disclosed. HOWEVER PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE THE POWER TO CLOSE DOWN SUCH A BUSINESS BY NOT GRANTING A LICENSE. IN ADDITION THEY CAN PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS.
TRADITIONALLY, THE OFFICIALS GIVE A LIST OF THINGS THEY WANT IMPROVED AND A “GRACE” TIME PERIOD FOR COMPLIANCE. USUALLY THIS DOES THE TRICK
Q how does the movement of rodents potentially add to the crisis on the South Coast?
A THIS IS POTENTIALLY VERY SERIOUS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LEPTOSPIROSIS! WE SHOULD AT A MINIMUM HAVE AN ADVISORY ABOUT THIS……e.g not walking bare feet there especially if there are breaks in the skin
“In times of a national crisis what is needed is input that can help and this information would have been more helpful if it was forwarded to the ministries involved in assessing the problem.”
There are doctors and health professionals in the ministry of health…who graduated from various universities, were trained in these disciplines and already know all of this…,…were trained kn all of this…
So …wasted tax dollars on education when they still sit around waiting for other health professionals or lay people to post the same information they were taught at university….to blogs. .., so that they can be prompted to do their jobs..
How much dumber can ya be.
Government needs to invest more money in Public health.
” Prevention is better than cure.”
@ Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service January 12, 2018 at 10:53 AM
“..but in a banana republic, it appears the tourism officials and ministers make that determination, so look out for more gastro and other contaminants…as long as sewage is following.”
Where ever there is open sewage floating there will be rats. Easy food for rats to breed and multiply.
Why hunt in the dark to tease obese cats when they can move among scared humans and have a vacation on the Boardwalk for free?
Rats are some of the most efficient carriers (vectors) of diseases that afflict humans. You can expect an outbreak of leptospirosis and could be even bubonic plague.
This government has really shot itself in their own head by playing the deadly game of Russian roulette with the country’s public sanitation, health and one-cylinder economy.
BTW….everyone inside and outside of Barbados already knows the names of all the impacted restaurants…and other business places to avoid, so…instead of participating in a cover up, the same business houses….and suffering residents….should be applying immense pressure on the government, through the law courts for an immediate and permanents fix.
Everyone just sat abd let this evolve.
It is clear from Fruendel’s mutterings and telling of the 3 countries that neither government have the requisite IQ and intelligence to move away from the one horse money earner tourism or to devise other money earners…it may take generations before the island produce people with that intelligence level….so, sue the damn government now.
Miller…ah know their IQs still have not reached double digits but even they should know that if any plague breaks out, the days for bajans skipping across the earth to every country will be over….for a very , ong time….their one horse money earner tourism will die an instant and indefinite death….and they will really be reduced to a shithole trump style.
They better get this shit resolved…and fast.
The three countries UK, US and Canada could put permanent bans in place NOW..stop their people from risking their lives and health…..but they did not ..
…please note that everyone knows I cuss all 3 countries simultaneously or separately depending upon my mood so no one can accuse of being biased, but Fruendel and his useless government ministers are dead wrong, this time..
the preponderance in rats to day is obviously due mainly to the inability to collect the garbage and dispose of it properly
as far back as 1994, a Bajan in the UK who was an expert in solid waste management sought to return home to do the same here…..he was denied
there was also talk then about incinerating the waste and converting the heat energy released to electrical energy for transfer to the national grid……..nothing came out of that idea either
It is worthy to note that since the Cahill proposal was vetoed by government there has been no comprehensive alternative proposal offered to replace it. Until we are able to implement a relevant and comprehensive waste management and environmental program we will be kept busy putting out the fires:
things are getting so bad on the south coast even the thieves are wearing masks
Your real fear is that Dr. Lucas, as a qualified expert, exposed this inept DLP administration.
There has to be a reason why Dr. Lucas “forwarded” this information to BU. Perhaps he took into consideration this inept DLP administration’s refusal to listen to professional advice for reasons of political expediency and BU’s track record of using information to expose corruption such as CAHILL or the $17M NIS loan to Bizzy Williams.
Dr. Lucas made a correct decision by posting his information to BU giving other people the opportunity to “voice their opinions,” rather than to the ministries where it would remain idle.
Lawson
I’m hoping this comedian thing of yours is a hobby or side job…………and not your full time occupation..
Hahahahahahahaha
Wuh loss………….murda
In his second paragraph, Dr LUCAS points out that “The absence of disease causing agents DONE WITH STANDARD TESTS signifies nothing” since the sampling protocols used for testing determines the results. Hence merely to say that tests were done, and nothing was found is remarkably incompetent and NOT the end of story since the microbial media used and protocol conditions all have a bearing on the results of the tests.
He then indicates that if the causative agent is present in the environment EVEN in trace amounts, one has to do lots of sampling….ant testing!
He also points out since THE SUSPECT ORGANISMS i.e the “enteric (gut) organisms including coliforms are generally adapted to relatively high nutrient and solute concentrations, they would have been exposed to a hostile and injurious environment because these pathogenic organisms though well adapted to the relatively high nutrient and solute concentrations found in their natural habitat in the faeces in the gut, they are simultaneously accustomed to, and thrive best in the low oxygen concentrations there.
Consequently, when exposed to oxygen they will DIE AND THUS show an increase loss of viability……AND BE UNDETECTED IN STANDARD TESTS.
THE QUESTION ARISES THEN HOW WERE THE SAMPLES HANDLED AND TESTED.
WERE THESE FACTORS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND ADEQUATE ALTERNATIVE TESTS DONE. IF NOT THE RESULTS PUBLISHED BY OUR SPARKLING NEW EXPENSIVE LAB ARE FALSE AND WORTHLESS!
THIS IS A SERIOUS EXPOSE AND THE TYPE OF EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC DESERVES
IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO TESTS……..WE MUST ALSO BE HONEST AND ACCURATE IN THE REPORTING OF THE DATA OBTAINED!
Last year when the ministers performed the PR stunt of bathing in the sea in the Worthing area there was the disclosure that water testing was done and all clear given. How does the process as outlined by Dr. Lucas and supported by you make one question the process used to test the sea water at that time?
” A National Conservation Commission (NCC) worker detailed their experiences spotting the rodents.
“I see plenty of them, early in the morning and on evenings. On evenings, I see them jumping out of the cans and running across the road, and even attacking crabs and I hear people complaining about them,” she said.
As bad as this sounds, the worker also said the bait programme seemed to be working as she had come across some dead ones on the beach, which they disposed.”
” the bait programme seemed to be working ”
MORE BAIT AND MORE WORKERS NEEDED.
MORE BAIT AND MORE WORKERS NEEDED………AS WELL AS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT GARBAGE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL TOO!
‘even attacking crabs’ ….
would pay to see that
Wondering what they would do to cats
We reject everything the racist Christian Georgie Porgie has to say.
We find him highly illiterate. There can be no difference between those who support racist ideologies and illiterates like Georgie Porgie
Literary not based on the outdated standards of the 11-Plus slave boys, educated at the public’s purse. Now to presume that he is better than those who paid.
But a literary based on the changing demands of the world, the truth about a wider sets of existential realities.
And the 11-Plus exam is anathema to this conception.
We doubt, that even in his field, Georgie Porgie does not even know who is the real father of medicine. He may know well who his racist friends have said is its father. To whom he has taken oaths.
He’s a functional ignoramus intent on instilling his nonsense in the minds of the mentally vulnerable
What is literacy when one only speaks a single language in a world where we have thousands?
Certainly, this writer will not go to any quack like Georgie Porgie, even in the face of death, a believer in magical thinking.
We choose to go to those who spend their lives concentrating on a single malady. Not an illiterate pretending to know what he does not.
And there are many kinds of literacy required in a modern world. For example technological literacy, social literacy etc
The 11-Plus boys can’t cut it.
@Pacha
You are being deliberately provocative and naughty. The ball is in your court.
RE @ Theophilius Gazerts 258 January 12, 2018 at 10:15 AM #
@GP
This is why you have to post your presentations no matter what is said
I HAVE FOUND A GOOD PPT ON MICROBIAL GROWTH FROM MY DATABASE THAT IS RELEVANT BUT I WOULD NEED TO EDIT IT FOR THIS TREAD
Let us increase the 11+. Bright boys and girls show their initiative from an early age.
David
In all circumstance we differ to you. But somethings should not remain unsaid.
Some scenarios suggest that if the planet is destroyed by a nuclear conflagration (and God knows that might not be far off) the only survivors will be rats and cockroaches. Rats are among the most resourceful mammals on this planet and can be found everywhere, if there is an available food source they will survive and thrive. There are probably a lot more rats than the few seen by the local KFC, they are mainly nocturnal so may be scurrying around under cover of darkness.
We need a Pied Piper to lead them out to sea, where is Bushy when you need him?
Q Last year when the ministers performed the PR stunt of bathing in the sea in the Worthing area there was the disclosure that water testing was done and all clear given.
A DR LUCAS EXPLAINS THIS VERY WELL IN HIS ATICLE
if the Health officials tested for enteric bacteria in the sea they would very likely draw a blank because enteric bacteria are not halophiles.ie they dont favor salt water situations for their growth
in addition enteric bacteria have been adapted to low oxygen environments so when exposed to the air most of them will die….and not be detected.
However, some of the organisms can survive and mutate and become pathogens
Q How does the process as outlined by Dr. Lucas make one question the process used to test the sea water at that time?
Dr. Lucas explores sampling techniques such as collection and storage medium of the samples, the nature of the suspected agents e.g are they salt oxygen heat loving etc, all of which are factors that affect the growth of organisms in the lab and elsewhere.
Dr. Lucas is correctly positing that correct results can only be obtained if
1- knowledge of the suspected organisnms is borne in mind
2- samples are collected and transported in the correct medium
3- adjustments are made so that the correct tests are done
He is essentially saying remember GARBAGE IN (thelab) GARBAGE OUT (poor or incorrect results)
We must understand that for us to say that an organism is present we must culture or grow it in the lab. To do this we must do the RIGHT series of tests in the RIGHT WAY!
iF WE FAIL TO do the RIGHT series of tests in the RIGHT WAY, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT NO ORGANISMS ARE PRESENT!
The point Pacha getting at is that GP argues that Trump’s was a divine appointment and the said same Trump now call GP ancestors and brethren people from ‘shithole countries’ and which he don’t want in the USA.Well Pacha,look for GP getting his ass kicked out of Trump America.ICE will do the honours.
@David, both docs have been quite pellucid dont you think re the query “How does the process…. make one question the process used to test the sea water at that time”. In Trumpian simple terms one can distill the heavy scientific narrative as: the tests were ‘fake’.
Or rather as Doc GP said: “IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO TESTS……..WE MUST ALSO BE HONEST AND ACCURATE IN THE REPORTING OF THE DATA OBTAINED!”
When Dr Lucas noted that “The causative agent is present in the environment in trace amounts. For example, testing seawater. If there is one organism per cubic meter of seawater, one has to do lots of sampling” ….
He is saying (in layman speak) dem fellas let loose de shiites in lots of water and all or most de serious bacteria-causing-RH dissipate to the point that samples proved nothing…or said agaim simply: it proved not one shiteeee.
So back to the other doc: “THIS IS A SERIOUS EXPOSE …”
The fact that we have politicians who swore to serve us offering such blatant lies and who are effectively creating an environment where folks are being contaminated by harmful substances as a result of this ailed government action is scandalous.
The further fact that a civil servant is perverting his/her professional reputation to desiminate these lies is mind boggling.
Clearly prima facie the gastro and other problems suggest this effluence is causing a problem.
Just as clearly the water ‘poisoning’ debacle in Flint, MI, USA is lost on the authorities.
I hope Bajans sue these atrocious govt officials. One can never avoid ststem malfunction even with awesome maintenance…but we can ALWAYS avoid dishonesty.
This is indeed a MAJOR exposee. The oscillating device is on full blast and the BS is flying!
Artax I decided a while back I would try and be funny dealing with my frustration over the stupidity on the island rather than lashing out .i could have said Things are so bad even parro s are washing their hands
RE GP argues that Trump’s was a divine appointment
YES I DID AND WONT APOLOGIZE THEREFOR
ALL LEADERS ARE DIVINELY APPOINTED ACCORDING TO ROMANS 13:1.
SOME ARE FOR GOOD..SOME ARE FOR BAD. SOME ARE LOVED SOME HATED
THIS IDEATION IS CLEARLY MANIFESTED IN A STUDY OF JUDGES AS A GOOD EXAMPLE
WHEN ISRAEL DID EVIL GOD SENT OTHER COUNTRIES TO DESTROY THEM. WHEN THEY REPENTED HE RAISED UP A LEADER TO DEFEND HIS PEOPLE.
JUDGES IS CHARACTERIZED BY SEVEN SUCH CYCLES
@Dee Word
BU will use a pedantic approach to making a point from time to time. Some say Barbadians are educated to the hilt.
We continue to passively allow the political class to rub the brown stuff in our faces.
What a complete asshole is this general practitioner, alias Georgie Porgie!
Is this where public funds were to be expended.
And is it not possible to arrive at such a destination without an education, of any type.
THIS IS A SERIOUS EXPOSEE …”BECAUSE IT IS GOOD TEACHING–SOUND DOCTRINE
RE one can distill the heavy scientific narrative as: the tests were ‘fake’. NO ONE SAID THIS.
ONLY A MORON LIKE THE DRIBBLER WILL DISTILL WHAT WAS SAID THUS.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT TESTS WERE OR NOT DONE
DR LUCAS QUERIED WHETHER ALL THE ALTERNATIVE TESTS AND FACTORS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, AND THAT DECISIONS WERE NOT MADE ONLY ON SIMPLE TESTS
“IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO TESTS……..WE MUST ALSO BE HONEST AND ACCURATE IN THE REPORTING OF THE DATA OBTAINED!” IS A FUNDAMENTAL OBJECT OF ALL LABS. HONEST AND ACCURATE REPORTING MAY REQUIRE SAYING THAT FURTHER TESTING IS REQUIRED
THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH BY THE WANNABE DRIBLER IS BARE SHITE!
When Dr Lucas noted that “The causative agent is present in the environment in trace amounts. For example, testing seawater. If there is one organism per cubic meter of seawater, one has to do lots of sampling” ….
He is saying (in layman speak) dem fellas let loose de shiites in lots of water and all or most de serious bacteria-causing-RH dissipate to the point that samples proved nothing…or said agaim simply: it proved not one shiteeee.
HE DID NOT SAY THIS. HE QUESTIONED WHETHER THE LAB OFFICIALS WERE COMPETENT OR WHETHER THEY WERE GAGGED BY THE OFFICIALS. HE THEN WENT ON TO CORRECTLY INDICATE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE OR CONSIDERED
Whatever plans the foolish ministers had to prolong the inevitable and deceive the electorate until the election, it will not work now…they are literally up shit street in more ways than one, all eyes worldwide are on them……especially since Fruendel gathered up the nerve to talk shit, out of line and out of place.
….so let them continue to pretend they are slick.
The world population is about 8 billion.The Jews make up 16 million of that population.Only they have special drawings rights to Palestine and to heaven and Donald Trump is their savior never mind he is a proven racist,a mysoginist,a liar a scoundrel a bully,a fool ,a mentally deranged ticking time bomb and a complete embarrassment to the majority of Americans.But GP says otherwise and quoting a history book to prove a non point.Some black people get confused between myth,logic and lunacy.But it was not always like this for the African.
On 2nd Feb 1835,Lord Macaulay addressed the British Parliament.
“I have travelled across the length and breadth of Africa and I have not seen one person who is a beggar,who is a thief such wealth I have seen in this country,such high moral values,people of such calibre that I dont think we would ever conquer this country,unless we break the very backbone of this nation,which is her spiritual and cultural heritage and therefore,I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system,her culture,for if the African think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own,they will lose their self esteem,their native culture and they will become what we want them,a truly dominated nation”……
Gabriel…not many people have read that, fewer still can understand it.
And then they turned them all into beggars and thieves and criminalized them in such a manner that they do not want to or care who they are, cant stand their own identities, lost in a wilderness, hopelessly so. ……
,,,,,the proof of this is in the 51 years of celebrating dependency, debt and cannot move away from a one horse money earner and unable to add another let alone several others.
That they see as progress, cant see it was by design.
If GP gotta leave US, he gotta leave, I bet he can find out why somewhere in his little fantasy book, which clearly outlines that mankind keeps making the same mistakes over and over every century, but expect different results, although their actions are predictable…and have been for many thousands of years.
The charlatan Georgie Porgie was supportive of the racist Trump before the results of the elections were known.
Nobody that has any sense would not inquire how god’s will was to be known ahead of time.
He obviously has a direct line to that fictitious demon of a god
What utter nonsense!
The Jews…….. have special drawings rights to Palestine TRUE
and to heaven NOT TRUE
and Donald Trump is their savior NOT TRUE
RE Donald Trump is a proven racist,a mysoginist,a liar a scoundrel a bully,a fool ,a mentally deranged ticking time bomb and a complete embarrassment to the majority of Americans
MOSES WAS A MURDERER
DAVID THE SAME
KING UZZIAH a good man, and KING MANASSEH an evil man, both ruled 50 years in Judah
WHO AM I OR YOU TO JUDGE WHOM GOD CHOOSES AS LEADERS?
For the religionists no change in the zeitgeist is to be factored
We are to remain in the bondage of a book of fiction
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HATE AND DONT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, THAT IS OK WITH ME.
WHY THEN SHOULD IT BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU IF I BELIEVE IT?
WHEN SOME OF YOU SHARE YOUR DISDAIN FOR THE BIBLE IT BOTHERS ME NOT, FOR I KNOW IN WHOM I HAVE BELIEVED, AND I WILL NOT FAIL TO DECLARE IT.
BUT WHY DO YOU CUSS ME FOR BELIEVING THE WORD.
WHY DO YOU HATE ME IF I LIKE TRUMP? I DONT HATE YOU FOR YOUR DISAPPOINTMENT THAT HIS OPPONENT FAILED AT THE POLLS
WHAT DOES YOUR REMARKS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC UNDER DISCUSSION IN THIS TREAD?
@ Sargeant January 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM #
“Some scenarios suggest that if the planet is destroyed by a nuclear conflagration (and God knows that might not be far off) the only survivors will be rats and cockroaches..”
Come off it, Sarge!
How can the actions of a parasite calling itself homo sapiens ever destroy something it never created?
This planet called Gaia has been hit by cataclysmic forces far greater than modern man’s puny arsenal and survived.
Just think of the poor dinosaurs that had no say in the matter that led to their extinction. There was no Iran or North Korean deal to be sealed in exchange for US$.
Fortunately for mammals, including humans, the fate of the dinosaurs led to their ascension on the stage as top dog for this moment in Time.
Mankind can only destroy what he has built. That is his so-called civilization, himself and his domesticated flora and fauna.
But you are right about the rats and the cockroaches. Let us see if ‘humankind’ can be assimilated by machine-kind and be assimilated in this grand old game of evolution in true Borg fashion.
BTW where is our Archbishop Bush Tea?
Is he vacationing with the Devil at the Vatican after their rendezvous at the Garrison at midnight to unblock the sewage outfall which was fully ‘plugged’ with human grease?
We are not surprised that ignorant Christians like Georgie Porgie would resort to lies. He is a consummate liar, like the bible.
Our BU record is clear. We never supported Clinton at all, though we wrongly judged that she would have won. In the same way we are not supporting the BLP or the DLP but have judged that the BLP will win.
We have no loyalties to any government on this earth. Unlike you, who would like to have us believe that a nonexistent sky god appoints them all.
We also care not what people choose to believe or not. The wickedness with christianity is that it has done vast amounts of harm to the human and must be opposed at all costs.
From slavery to capitalism to wars, and before, it continues to manipulate the people’s minds with foolishness.
The spewing of such wickedness is not unlike terrorism. It is Christian terrorism and protection should thus be granted from sophisticated liars who believe their own lies. Foolishness that has never been independently verified, with certainty, while robbing the poor of meagre earnings through tithing.
What we agreed to was that Obama was wrong to impose bulling as a central organizing/governing plank. And as bad as Obama was, Trump is a far, far worse.
When he was president the racist fire rage you picked up was in the service of your White masters. For your types Whiteness is rightness!
You did not refrain from being highly critical of Obama, as god’s appointed, according to you. But for Trump all the fictitious religious protections must be extended regardless of all his mounting indiscretions.
This is so because you Georgie Porgie are a avid follower of the White-Christian-supremacists, the KKK without the hoods. People like Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell jr, etc.
And people like these should not exist.
Wait Buhbaydoss is now officially a S-Hole ?
Travel advisories from UK, Canada & USA.
Rigor mortis addled govt unable to maintain the flow of Shite?
Shiftless govt renaming buildings & ribbon cutting at multiple ceremonies ad nauseum. Who voted for these clowns ?
even though haigh thinks that the sewage problem is going well, but if they cant say what will happen if it rains a lot, or when permanent repairs will be done she should not expect th uk,usa,or canada to recind their warnings on her hopes. Barbados will have to work to hard to gain peoples confidence maybe even spruce the place up.
@ lawson January 13, 2018 at 8:07 AM
“even though haigh thinks that the sewage problem is going well, but if they cant say what will happen if it rains a lot, or when permanent repairs will be done she should not expect th uk,usa,or canada to recind their warnings on her hopes. Barbados will have to work to hard to gain peoples confidence maybe even spruce the place up.”
Well said, Lawson! The current crappy shitty situation (which was purposely allowed to fester) is one that they cannot find a scapegoat to pin the blame on.
They cannot this time blame the international recession or even the BLP.
Only the cabinet of shitehounds who were warned over and over of the ramifications of not fixing the festering problem.
The place is in a’ terrible’ need of a sprucing up. The country has become very shabby and most depressingly off-putting over the last 10 years; clearly reflective of the fallen standards and quality of its current administration.
There was a time when the South Coast of Barbados could have rivalled and even outclassed many tourist strips on the Mediterranean. That certainly cannot be said today far less brag about.
Just a bunch of low(e)life vermin whose sanitation standards can be equated to the South coast sewer.
That Low(e)down black mouth fella reminds us of a person who would use a public latrine to do a No.2 and purposely refuses to flush afterwards to annoy the next user.
Just look at the lot! Just a herd of low(e)-class wild boys who need to be trained in basic sanitation habits.
To use some of Archangel Gabriel’s colourful phrases to aptly describe the ‘cursed’ lot: Gorblinddemlot of summsofbitches. Look what they have gone and done to once sweet Bubadus!
Now where are those garbage trucks that were supposed to arrive before December 2016 after collecting millions in NSRL to do just that and to clean up Barbados?
Is it because the Low(e)down crook is being watched like bacteria under a microscope and his demands for “where is my cut?” have not been met?
Barbados won´t survive a 3rd blue term. We have already a blue admin heritage, if we look at the new GG, DPP, Gov-CBB and many other newly appointed figures. A new government will face 20,000 hostile blue civil servants.
Solution: In 2019, we need a purge in the public service from top to bottom. We need to change the constitution to allow the firing of any person not working at least 45h per week in public office and accepting a reduction of salary and pension.
Cause: The BBD is under pressure since the public service is a heavy burden for the whole island. We need to reduce the costs by at least 30 %.
Alternatives:
– Higher efficiency: nearly impossible, given the local attitude and work ethics
– firing 10,000 civil servants: possible if one pays the cargo for emigration and gets some American or African to welcome their new citizens …
@ Pachamama January 12, 2018 at 3:01 PM #
“We doubt, that even in his field, Georgie Porgie does not even know who is the real father of medicine. He may know well who his racist friends have said is its father. To whom he has taken oaths.”
Pacha, do you really expect the hocus-pocus quack GP (blinded by Judeo-Christian lies and plagiarized myths) to know of the Prince of Peace who was sent from Above to teach and show mankind the ‘Sciences’ far less of Imhotep the King for all seasons of human endeavour?
Poor Dr. GP, taking an oath to a copier called ‘Hippocrates’ instead of his real Father from the land of Kemet but whose name has been ‘bastardized’ to “Imouthes” in the Land of the true hypocrites and plagiarists who did a similar job to the Bible.
You must try to convince poor GP to retake his oath of allegiance; not to Asclepius but to the god whose works and knowledge given to benefit humankind will live on as long as the Sun shines and be eternally arrayed in that large but little talked about Constellation ‘Serpentarius’ (Ophiuchus to those who have not been schooled like GP in the art Western propaganda and cultural grave-robbing).
We wonder if GP is aware that the well-known and often displayed ’Logo’ of his bastardized profession called Western medicine is supremely representative of the Snake-handler in the Heavens with the rod of correction of human maladies (the rod of Asclepius) in his hand?
Let it be known to Dr. GP et al that the Constellation was first named after Imhotep to venerate forever His presence on Earth to whom modern man owes a lot.
Akhenaton is pleased to inform that Amenhotep is still with us holding the Aten of knowledge and Yawheh the god of religious mumbo jumbo.
Akhenaton! (he who is beneficial to Aton)
@ Tron January 13, 2018 at 9:36 AM
“Higher efficiency: nearly impossible, given the local attitude and work ethics
firing 10,000 civil servants: possible if one pays the cargo for emigration and gets some American or African to welcome their new citizens …”
Why can’t these ‘excess to requirements’ people be exported to Japan which has exported to Barbados thousands of motor Japanese-made vehicles (mechanical steel-donkeys) than any other country?
Isn’t Japan badly in need of people to sustain its fast aging (and soon to disappear) population?
Instead of learning Mandarin and Cantonese young Bajans should be learning Japanese.
But as you quite rightly pointed out, given the culturally embedded local work ethic, Bajans would certainly be in for a total culture shock.
Bajans only work under orders and direct supervision of whites and other ethnic minorities from overseas; just like the days on the sugar plantations.
Just look around at how they are keeping their ‘fields and hills which were once beyond recall but allegedly now their very own’.
They would never have done that to their old Massa plantations and great houses.
Shameful indeed, the IQ levels never rose beyond the level of educated slaves in the last 60 years, not even in the leaders.
However, there is hope for the future. If Barbados had a strong leader and strong cabinet ministers for 20 years, acting as true role models.
The current attitude is no DNA thing and no inescapable fate. When there is a strong will, society will change.
Miller
You are quite right, per usual
This is not guess work on our part. We have irrefutable proofs of our claims
Even Hippocrates himself, who learnt everything he knew over 40 years in training at the feet of the masters in Kemet, said so in all his writings.
However, the criminals who constructed a Whiteness acili to make idiots of Georgie Porgie were not interested in any truths at all.
Everything which Georgie Porgie thinks he knows is a lie!
Which such a man then pretends to have anything to say about science or microbiology it is best ignored.
But when you have a book of fiction aimed at promoting Whiteness as rightness the production of total illiterates like Georgie Porgie is unavoidable.
They are however dangerous for their marketing of wickedness has the world in turmoil.
When people like Georgie Porgie get as brazen to want to contend that some fictitious god appointed Trump he represents a level of wickedness which must be excised from the body politic.
Yes….npw to find a lawyer or lawyers who are not government pimps, lackeys or yardfowls and who would not maliciously sell out their clients and keep a class action lawsuit spinning around in the supreme court for decades.
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/119835/okay-sue-bwa
“Go ahead and sue the Barbados Water Authority (BWA). There is precedent, says social activist David Comissiong.
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But he won’t be the one fighting the case this time.
Comissiong said businesses along the stretch of the South Coast affected by the sewage spilling into the streets should take their matter to the High Court.
“It is scandalous. This neglect on the part of the Water Authority and the Minister responsible for Water Authority is scandalous and the householders and businesses affected should definitely be seeking legal representation,” he declared.”
There is only one answer to this idiot, vote him out, it is very obviously that the government ministers were going to use the shit flowing in the streets as a weapon and maliciously refuse to fix the sewage plant all in an elaborate and deliberate plan to blame it on the opposition and trick the electorate into reelecting them, like the syupid politicians they are…..
…all of.that is until the US, UK and Canada cracked the whipped on the useless house negros, now they are running around pretending thry are doing ehat they should have done since 2008….fix and mqintaonnthe sewage system…
Why do these mediocre politicians nelieve they are smsrter than everyone else.
now they are running around pretending thry are doing WHAT they should have done since 2008….FIX and MAINTAIN the sewage system…
Why do these mediocre politicians nelieve they are SMARTER than everyone else.
It was indeed ugly to see taxpayer paid representatives in the house of parliament trying to deliberately drag out their nastiness surrounding non action in raw sewage on the streets for as long as they could until the election….to pin the blame on the opposition, they should all be in prison, they have no regard for the health of paying visitors to the island and even less regard for the health of for their own local people.
The channel is blocked again.
The level is approaching 0.7.
I saw a manhole by Big B weeping.
If the tides and levels in the swamp are linked, there will be more manholes weeping come the end of the month with the higher high tides.
Tidal predictions have the high tides on 31st January and 1st February at 0.9 metres, about 10 inches higher than they are now.
The bad thing is the manholes may weep, the good thing is that we may not be watching raw sewage but mostly brackish water issuing forth!!
We will see by the end of the month, if not before.
@John
And if one of the mitigation measures is dumping sewage in the swamp?
Just asking for a friend.
There are two manholes by Tapas which are looking suspicious.
We will know by tomorrow afternoon.
There were three by Big B that were weeping which I saw just now, more than this evening when I passed and saw only one.
https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Bridgetown-Barbados/tides/latest
If the tides are to blame then it will be tomorrow afternoon that we will see an increase in activity of the manholes.
This afternoon at 2:27 pm the higher tide for the day was 0.77.
This would try to force the level in the swamp up.
Tomorrow afternoon it will be 0.79, slightly higher than the first high tide tomorrow around 3 early tomorrow morning, 0.64.
We will see what happens, if anything, in the afternoon/early evening.
Unethical herpes vaccine trial in St Kitts reaches US Senate
By Shawn Seabrookes
BASSETERRE, St Kitts (WINN) — The fallout and implications of the unethical testing of a trial herpes vaccine on test subjects in St Kitts is more far-reaching than initially thought, as an article in the Washington Post shows.
The discreet experimental project took place in St Kitts, over the summer period of 2016. The then chief medical officer for St Kitts and Nevis has gone on record, on several occasions, denying any knowledge of the testing.
The matter of the herpes vaccine trial has now caught the attention of the United States Senate.
According to a recent article in the Washington Post titled “Grassley Calls For ‘Corrective Action’ On Abuses In Herpes Vaccine Research”, Republican senator Chuck Grassley, of Iowa, who is the chair of the Judiciary Committee, has demanded that the Trump administration and Southern Illinois University scrutinize how a researcher was able to inject an experimental herpes vaccine into human subjects without routine safety oversight.
The senator said he wanted to be reassured that “corrective action” was being taken to prevent similar research abuses.
This entire episode illustrates a failure in necessary governmental oversight of vaccine research as well as a failure by SIU to properly oversee its research staff,” Grassley wrote in letters to the Department of Health and Human Services and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
Grassley also sent a letter to the federal Office for Human Research Protections (OHRP), which monitors how human subjects are treated in trials.
Southern Illinois University professor William Halford tested his experimental herpes vaccine in St Kitts without FDA or institutional review board oversight. Investigations done by the university concluded that Halford was in “serious noncompliance with regulatory requirements and institutional policies and procedures.”
The St Kitts and Nevis government has indicated that there is an ongoing police investigation into the herpes trial matter; however, no recent update on the inquiry has been provided.