Submitted by William Skinner
John Cumberbatch, the late president of the Barbados Union of Teachers, often described the Common Examination as elitist. He was convinced that once it remained the gold standard of excellence, the system would eventually be the main cause for several societal problems. It was a position he took before the mid-seventies, when he was leader of the BUT. Forty years later, his predictions have come to pass and we are still refusing to accept that he and others who supported this view were correct.
What is most unfortunate is that many of those teachers who were exposed to John’s views, embraced them but we now find them four decades later, in powerful positions, denouncing his positions and shamelessly defending the status quo. These former “Comrades” have sold their souls on the altar of political expediency and one often wonders, if they have collectively agreed to hold fast to the mantra: “if you can’t beat them join them”. They are to be found in both government and opposition. The classical case of pigs now walking on their hind legs and behaving like the masters, in Animal Farm.
Those voices crying in the wilderness for a radical reform of the education system, are to be commended but once parents believe that their children, can enter Harrison or Queens College, the task to change the system becomes more difficult. If many of those parents knew that some children enter the examination room, barely having the ability to recognize their names, they would perhaps be more supportive.
Any country that deliberately throws hundreds of its children in a socio-economic river while gleefully celebrating the achievements of a few, is certainly guilty of a form of societal genocide. The current rise in crime and the escalating disregard for life or limb by some of our youth, are certain signs of the full growth of seeds that were planted at least four decades ago. Our social scientists, have bluntly refused to utilize their knowledge to show or explain how the education system, is fertile breeding ground, for much of the deviancy that is now permeating the society.
Some moderators who chased callers off their programs, when they tried to explain that the education system was a great contributor, to many of our problems, are heard these days crying crocodile tears because they are facing the frightening reality, that if we refuse to rescue our youth from the path of drugs and crime, they would be no longer safe in their comfortable heights and terraces. It means that their desire to now embrace what they formally dismissed as “fringe elements”, is perhaps guided by ulterior motives.
Any form of elitism breeds disaffection and is immediately followed by hopelessness. We cannot restructure the economy without education reform. It is impossible to produce a 2017 model car on a 1950 production line. Our people remain our most precious resource, and that resource must be carefully nurtured for national development. It is not too late but time is running out.
Lol….hope they are all being detained and vigorously questioned.
While it is true that many scholars do not return or enter politics because of what they consider to be inferior persons in charge, there is also some reluctance to be beholden to the dominant black upper middle class that has emerged since independence.
Those born on the wrong side of the tracks would have experienced rampant classism and therefore opt for the anonymity that other countries offer. They seriously believe that to return to Bim , to confront the classism from within their own people coupled with the racism from the traditional white sector, is too much of a challenge and a waste of their time and the education that the taxpayers underwrote from primary to University level.
Another point that we should not over look, is that some of the island scholars of late are the offspring of at least one parent who was also an island scholar and they would have grown up in very solid intellectual upper middle class homes, so they would have been a different class from their parents who had won a Barbados scholarship while they were relatively poor.
We should note that relatively speaking a considerable number of whites and other minorities have also been scholars but we do not expect them to enter politics or the public service because they do not find such activity attractive or necessary to their social and economic well being.
It is also interesting to note that there is now a notable increase in private primary schools and the fees will automatically ensure that most of the children will be from high income homes. Perhaps if our social scientists were alert or less selfish , they may be able to connect the dots. In the most recent Sunday Sun, I read where the roll of the Metropolitan High School has dropped from a high of over 800 to no more than 30 students. While practically all of the Black owned high schools are basically out of business, we should pay very close attention to the ownership of all the new private schools that are emerging.
Sooner or later, we are going to have to confront several issues that we have swept under the carpet.
No amount of useless political nit picking is going to solve any of the problems we now have to confront.
This is not a good example. The education system has moved passed the Metropolitan School model i.e. the Black owners like Cox, Prescod and the lot have not been innovative enough to tweak the business model. In the past they existed based on the subsidy from the MoE anyway.
“Another point that we should not over look, is that some of the island scholars of late are the offspring of at least one parent who was also an island scholar and they would have grown up in very solid intellectual upper middle class homes, so they would have been a different class from their parents who had won a Barbados scholarship while they were relatively poor.”
For such a tiny island, destructive classism is too much of a deciding factor in identifying people, not even the racist US has that much classism..
Of course scholars who possess a higher level of knowledge, once exposed to the international arena….than the average person on the street, will see the constant decades old classism and racism practiced by dumb people and enabled by even dumber governments, that can be attributed to condensed ignorance and backwardness of island people…… as counterproductive to any future progress and development….no one wants to live like that in a constant pit of stupidity and stagnation.
Look how well it’s working out now after being practiced for decades on the island ..everyone seems to be an idiot, corrupt and criminals…..because of and despite the fantasy of classism.
And just thinking of interacting with a bunch of semiliterate racist bajan whites and others in the minority population, who control black government ministers and politicians with bribery and corruption and who, given their decades of criminal activities against the majority population on the island…….could only be described as repulsive to any scholar.
Previous black scholars made that mistake of returning to work for little racist companies like the then BS&T….. in the 70s and 80s and regretted it for the balance of their lives.
No one would want to be associated with those particular fools to become tainted and stagnant.
Seriously…as a scholar, could you see yourself demeaning and degrading yaself in the process and working for any of these callous, greedy, vicious uncaring, dirty moffukers in Barbados’ trifling, petty little business community or for any of those dumb, corrupt, uneducated mofukkers for government ministers…….honestly.
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Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 18, 2017 at 7:39 AM #
You hit the nail on the head, past all of the ‘should scholars return’ talk.
With all of the evident corruption and ‘know a man’ way in Bim, who in their right mind with a degree from MIT, McGill, Oxford, Cambridge or London, is going to come back here to work for some JA or as a consultant dealing with JA’s? When with degrees from those places they can get offers of $$$$ overseas?
Those days are done. The ones who came back before, even those who studied abroad and were not Bdos scholars, who will have opportunities abroad, will have learnt their lesson and twenty / thirty years ago was a different time.
Things have become worse while people have become more street smart, especially the youth.
You can wish all you want, but we now will see a brain drain en masse.
Anyone with an overseas degree will not come back.
The conversation needs to be ‘how can we stop the brain drain’ and the answer must begin with ‘we need to stop corruption first’.
Sadly, I do not see that happening. Which is why I have already said in other posts on this blog, to the young people, to get qualified and get out.
Why should a bright young person with potential stop here to be subject to the whims and fancy of a corrupt lot?
Like it or lump it, that is the way it is.
@ William
Your analysis is largely correct. However you must have noted in thinking about the matter, that the whole focus of these ‘scholars’ is about their own selfish desires and convenience.
This is what Bushie calls albino-centric thinking, and it is THE root cause of our (and this current world’s) demise.
If the talented, bright, blessed (with state funding) scholars are ONLY thinking about their own interests and well being, …pray tell us what the dim, slow, intellectually-challenged, and exploited (with the taxes to fund these scholars) average BBBB is supposed to do…?
Not sell Ganja where he can make thousands instead of waiting on welfare?
Not run a ZR in a manner that best suits HIS objectives..?
Not litter, piss all over the place, look unkempt and behave waxy?
Not rob tourists whenever it suits his fancy?
Societies that do well produce citizens that feel a COMMITMENT to contribute to their family, friends, community, country …. and world. They do this by inculcating a culture with a COMMUNITY CENTRIC focus.
This way, not only Scholars, but even the lowest strata of citizens are driven to do what they can ‘for the country’.
This is a MOST CRITICAL role of any education system….. a role that is COMPLETELY missing in Barbados – with the consequences that we are seeing.
WW wrote,
And just thinking of interacting with a bunch of semiliterate racist bajan whites and others in the minority population, who control black government ministers and politicians with bribery and corruption and who, given their decades of criminal activities against the majority population on the island…….could only be described as repulsive to any scholar.
Previous black scholars made that mistake of returning to work for little racist companies like the then BS&T….. in the 70s and 80s and regretted it for the balance of their lives.
WW, casting the dispersion that all Bajan whites are semi literate is ridiculous. Most of the Scholarships in my era of the mid 70s were won by whites and those that are very close to white ie most foreigners would not know the difference. The darker gents mostly came from professional homes although some were from very poor origins eg dad sold oranges on the wharf.
AS I have stated before the truth on bribery is that it was and is EXTORTION. “U want this Govt contract then place 10%commission in my/ our Cayman AcctS” So even I lay off 123 workers or I play ball. Obviously I want to retain my workers for continuity, cashflow etc how much choice do I have???? No matter what the morals/ ethics are what should I tell my workers and their families approx 5-600 human lives plus those they do business with like shops?
BS&T was always a large unwieldly organisation that did employ some whites who were well connected / protected and far from swift. I was amazed when some Bajans did not want it sold to a Trini Corp with a senior executive who was obviously Afro Trini. Who could afford to buy it in Bim? Why not take the cash from Trin and redeploy in developing smaller better managed Corps for the future? Who stopped Bajans from buying shares on the market for donkeys years?
As my former school friend of African lines says,”stocks / investments dont know or care that I am Black.”
Bush Tea September 18, 2017 at 8:15 AM #
You can make that assertion, but what draw is there when there is so much embedded corruption?
Or are you alleging a chicken and egg scenario, which came first?
FYI, there have been such scholars who returned and sacrificed of their time and lives. Some research is needed, but they were there. Not quite recognized for their contributions. And the corruption and decadence still prevailed despite their efforts.
Hence why the young ones know better.
You all can talk about the altruistic motivations, but what sense does that make in a mire of despotism?
The scholars that return to Bim tend to be Lawyers, CAs, Doctors mostly. Scientists some of who are Profs at top Unis in the USA/ Canada/ UK/ Aus are far too advanced and would stagnate in Bim eg Prof at UWI that I know is always crying about inferior Lab equipment etc whereas our friend in the exact same field at MIT has the latest most advanced Labs.
Computer scientist may try Bim for a few years but quickly realise they are far better off in the large countries.
Who wants to become a victim of corrupt Politicians as several of my pals with PhDs have?
Some are literally banned from Govt jobs!!!!!!! “U doan want to LIE fuh we den tek dis nuh!”
FACT!
@ Crusoe
You can make that assertion, but what draw is there when there is so much embedded corruption?
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The greatest draw of all Boss…
To come and clean up the shiite that is stinking up THEIR family, friends, communities and country.
If our brightest and best – who we nurtured, and in whom we invested scarce resources – are unwilling (or God forbid) unable, to deal with corruption in high places, what can you HONESTLY expect from the current union leaders – for example..?….or from the pissy press (who all seem to be consumed in sex scandals with their editors) … or the third rate clergy…
… or even stinking Bushie (who barely passed the 11+…)?
Bushie respects Caswell for HIS selfless commitment to justice and truth.
BUT Caswell did not benefit from elaborate resources, exposure and training that comes with scholarships….and would be lost among the stinking lawyers of Barbados.
This is why Caswell does not have the SELF CONFIDENCE to fully exploit the VALUABLE talents that he possess. For lack of this TECHNICAL and SOCIAL self-confidence, WE are unable to benefit from his invaluable ethical, moral and social excellence.
Take a fella like Georgie Porgie.
He has the needed self-confidence and attitude to make a contribution, but he is to damn arrogant.
Jeff has the intellect, social and ethical grounding, and the self-confidence, but has been ethically and spiritually compromised by his legal groundings.
Walter is a strong candidate, but, like his pal David Thompson, sees himself as too much as a needed saviour rather than a willing SERVANT of the people…. and easily falls into albino-centric traps…
To whom much is given, much is expected.
This saying is more applicable to this situation than anywhere else…
Bushie wrote
Societies that do well produce citizens that feel a COMMITMENT to contribute to their family, friends, community, country …. and world. They do this by inculcating a culture with a COMMUNITY CENTRIC focus.
This way, not only Scholars, but even the lowest strata of citizens are driven to do what they can ‘for the country’.
This is a MOST CRITICAL role of any education system….. a role that is COMPLETELY missing in Barbados – with the consequences that we are seeing.
Exactly Bushie. Leaders should be maximising OPPortunity for everyone. Culture of Success, growth as a people. As Kennedy said,”Ask not what the country can do for U but what U can do for the country”. People must feel they belong and are part of the success in all respects.
True Pride and Industry.
“WW, casting the dispersion that all Bajan whites are semi literate is ridiculous. ”
MoneyB …I can tell you that ALL who run the and maintain the slave society, who are bribers, corrupt and commit crimes on the island are semiliterate….cause if they were intelligent…they wont have to…like yaself and others…they would use that intellect, if they had it, to do much better…for themselves and the entire population and not just a few….by using bribery, cirruption and theft….how many scholars, ah dont mean John.,…do you see running back to work for any of them…outside of their ilk.
Same goes for the ministers and politicians who accept bribes from the semiliterate minorities, commit crimes and tief taxpayer’s and presioners money…would you call them genuises and brilliant intellectuals and scholars also….
…MoneyB…look. dont get me started…lol….and stop acting like they are innocent, none of them are, they should have exposed the “extortion”….to british, US, UK and other media from the get go…if they were clean and not corrupt criminals themselves…
…… with the digital age they could tape everyone of those corrupt ministers and politicians, but have any of the minorities done so…no, instead they colluded with the same extortionists and the bribed ministers and pokiticians to remove social media so their corruption and bribery never becomes public knowledge. …that’s why their names have all ended up in some international agencies….all who were involved.
….they too deserve time in prison.., and when these ministers are taken down for their crimes, I hope they at least have the commonsense to take all of the minority criminals in the business community down with them….call all their names…..everyone of them..
“Who stopped Bajans from buying shares on the market for donkeys years?”
As a matter of fact, I understand it was by design and conspiracy by Fields and others to prevent the majority population from buying shares in the company.., and dont be surprised if there was political help from lowlife black ministers to prevent their own people from owning the company,
@ Money B
Why don’t you keep out of these discussions nuh?
We all accept that you are a special human specimen who, while 100% albino-centric in outlook, manages to fool yourself that your system is fair and balanced – and that you are loaded because you are some kinda genius, while poor people are just lazy idiots who deserve their lots.
BUT…BS&T was manipulated by whites specifically to keep talented blacks ‘in their places’. Same exact thing with Mutual, BL&P, Banks etc.
These were eventually sold off to foreigners when it became clear to all that Blacks were becoming unstoppable. In most cases, they were sold off below REAL value, with various “underhanded sihininagans” taking place to maximise benefits to the connected whites.
Don’t come here with that ‘Johnny-ish’ shiite about what blacks ‘should’ have done. Short of ISIS-type tactics, not much more could have been done when the albino devils has bribed the black leadership, the courts, the police – and when the lawyers are all honorary ‘whites’ in the systemic brass bowlery.
When Tom Adams imposed a ‘reparations-styled’ income tax to try to bring some BALANCE back to the society, you and others – who had exploited the masses for CENTURIES, packed up and moved to albino lands to avoid making contributions.
You have no credibility in this particular debate sir.
WW,
My own brother refused to take part in the extortion/ bribes that were DEMANDED and eventually had to resign an executive position as a result! None of you can tell me about this as my family was there in the initial phases of its adoption in Bim. My brother died of cancer within a few years of this fiasco, probably hastened by his desire to be so pure and his disappointment by being cast aside.
Taping senior Pols demanding bribes would lead to DEATH! Mafia works— either U go along and make $$$$$$$ or your health may deteriorate rapidly. Who served time for murders (political) Stokes? Pele? Guy? many more?
Please explain how U stop anyone from buying Stocks/ shares in a public market?????????????? Unless there has been a Court ruling against a crooked player!
Besides who should buy non performing Corps? Much better to own Banks Beer!
I have not stated that many are innocent just illustrating that there are alternative ways of viewing the situation that leads to greater accuracy! U too love to go overboard and someone has to pull yuh back a lil.
…cause if they were intelligent…they wont have to…like yaself and others…they would use that intellect, if they had it, to do much better…for themselves and the entire population and not just a few….INSTEAD OF using bribery, corruption and theft…….to project wealth, riches and pretend superiority…..
….intelligent people know better, scholars know better than to do that…only semiliterates do that…because they know no better….and have semiliterate politicians and governmrnt ministers to hrlp and protect that corruption.
….how many scholars, ah dont mean John.,…do you see running back to work for any of them…outside of their ilk.
@ Money B
Exactly Bushie. Leaders should be maximising OPPortunity for everyone
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What ‘Exactly Bushie what!!??!
That is NOT what Bushie said.
….and leaders shiite!! what happens when the leaders are jackasses…?
What the bushman DID say was that EVERYONE should be maximising their opportunities to do their best for their families, communities, countries, and world…. in that order.
The BIG jobs of sorting out leadership, national strategy, vision and justice etc., …MUST be the province of the brightest and the best….
If THEY run away to go pimping under the skirts of foreigners for crumbs, it is only obvious that scum and shiite-hounds will rise to the top…..
Who then can expect such shiite ‘leaders’ to maximise opportunities…?
Bushman….ah can’t wait to see all their asses stripped and in prison..where they belong….
…… MoneyB can’t have it both ways, scholars know as long as they embroil themselves in that corrupt, criminal mess between corrupt politicians/ministers and corrupt, criminal minorities on the island…there could be only one outcome, one ending, no matter how many decades it has been in play….
……. they have seen that movie many times before…, that is why they are scholars and know to keep away..
Bushie wrote,
We all accept that you are a special human specimen who, while 100% albino-centric in outlook, manages to fool yourself that your system is fair and balanced – and that you are loaded because you are some kinda genius, while poor people are just lazy idiots who deserve their lots.
Bulloocks! U are attempting to reframe/ recast/ mislead, good try for U! All I am doing is bringing understanding and truth which many of you purposely bypass like a full bus. Experienced thinkers wont buy into such one sided arguments.
Poor people require help as I have stated relentlessly but NOT continuous give– aways without accountability and working on their development / progress. Discipline as in teach them to fish but dont just give dem fish for 50 yrs.
Maybe only then will genuine scholars be and feel comfortable enough to engage and bring the island out of the stinking, stagnant waste dump it has been reduced to by greedy, useless, racist, criminal minorities and greedy, corrupt, useless criminal politicians and ministers. …from both political parties.
Create some light and propell the people and island out of the dark ages….., that was created by these miscreants on both sides of the political divide and the minority of criminals, for the last 30 years……3 vicious unproductive, wasted decades.
The only saving grace, is that the island produces more and more scholars each and every year….so as soon as the present lot of parasites, termites and leaches on the people are gone permanently….whichever scholars who care to, can start making the requistie changes and free parliament from the grip of semiliterate criminal politicians.
@ Money B
My own brother refused to take part in the extortion/ bribes that were DEMANDED and eventually had to resign an executive position as a result!
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Ok …. so your brother was not up to the task.
All you are doing is reinforcing the need for TOP QUALITY people to deal with this mess….
Bushie agrees that incompetent shiitehounds should KEEP AWAY from such jobs.
See if you can explain this to Froon and the other 29 JA’s we presently have in Parliament.
What do you want to bet that a VERY similar line of argument is used privately by these politicians and senior public officers …as to why they are ‘forced to work with the bribers, gang-leaders and scam artists like CAHILL, VECO etc’.
Wanted:
a Real Man, with balls, stamina, impeccable ethical and moral fibre, strong social and intellectual skills, excellent academic qualifications, …..and MOST CRITICALLY, a LOVE for Barbados and BBBBs.
How is that not a Barbados Scholar somewhere…?
…either THAT, …. or a stinking bushman with a big-ass whacker….
LOL
ha ha ha
Murduh!!!!
Bushie wrote,
When Tom Adams imposed a ‘reparations-styled’ income tax to try to bring some BALANCE back to the society, you and others – who had exploited the masses for CENTURIES, packed up and moved to albino lands to avoid making contributions.
You have no credibility in this particular debate sir.
Bushie, it is this type of LACK of Thinking that betrays U!
When I migrated from Bim I was 24, NOT 324! I did not exploit anybody for anytime. My father went to work at 13 to help his parents feed 9 kids! My mother was orphaned at 8 yrs. So dont try with ignorant talk with excrement dripping from your mout. That works with the ILLiteraty who imbibe puup as if it were honey. It will eventually lead wunna NOWHERE!
“My brother died of cancer within a few years of this fiasco, probably hastened by his desire to be so pure and his disappointment by being cast aside.”
More the reason it should have been exposed from very early and shows beyond a doubt, how many minorities are involved in corrupting both governments for their own advancement.
Were it not for the blogs, this would go on for another 50 years because both governments and minorities…so no reason to end it are all on board and good with bribery and corruption and would keep passing it on from one generation in parliament and the business community…to the next generation of corrupted self serving criminals in parliament and the business community…
a cycle without end, while the majority sinks into more crime and poverty and the minorities and others feed them a steady diet of guns and drugs.
That is not prigress, it is destruction on an extremely large and evil scale.
Bushie wrote,
Ok …. so your brother was not up to the task.
All you are doing is reinforcing the need for TOP QUALITY people to deal with this mess….
Again you illustrate the stupidity of sucking and blowing simultaneously. If paying bribes is wrong why was my brother “not up to the task” by refusing to play? Abject stupidity by Bushie! Which Top Quality person is going to alert the FBI et al and risk floating face down in the Cbean Sea? Maybe with family? They were eating Bfast happily but some escapees from Dodds massacred the family, how sad!
“Taping senior Pols demanding bribes would lead to DEATH! Mafia works— either U go along and make $$$$$$$ or your health may deteriorate .”
Not if ya get them on international, criminal money laundering charges.., they dont stand a chance then…I will bet my last dollar that everyone of them are laundering money…big time.
The minorities did not try very hard to stop any bribery and corruption, they were too busy committing their own range of crimes and getting away with it…..against the people and country,
WW wrote,
More the reason it should have been exposed from very early and shows beyond a doubt, how many minorities are involved in corrupting both governments for their own advancement.
U like a Lawyer–professional LIAR! EXTORTION is how it all started in Bim! Bribes are DEMANDED by a corrupt bunch of traitors!
Probably only one way to handle this–Benevolent Dictatorship! Nothing else will work as the next Govt will know of the sweeets of corruption and want a huge helping!
My immigration has proven to be quite BRILLIANT, now all I have to do is learn to live with the Corrupt White Bastards in Canada and NthAm.
“Poor people require help as I have stated relentlessly but NOT continuous give– aways without accountability and working on their development / progress. Discipline as in teach them to fish but dont just give dem fish for 50 yrs.”
But Bizzy “give me” and other minority parasites have no qualms about begging for taxpayer’s money, pension money, contracts and scam subsidies which belong to the same poor people, not to him or any other minority. .,they have no qualms about joining with tiefing ministers…to rob the same poor people..
The same briber Bizzy jumped in the newspapers to demand from his bribee ministers “give me BWA”…which belong to the poor people…..”and 60 million dollars”.., which again belong to the poor poople…..
Maybe the poor people should teach Bizzy and the other minority thieves and parasites….how to go fish…Instead of begging…, the poor.
Again you illustrate the stupidity of sucking and blowing simultaneously. If paying bribes is wrong why was my brother “not up to the task” by refusing to play? Abject stupidity by Bushie!
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LOL
Your brother was not up to the task because Bushie is talking of a level of input that is able to DISLODGE and OVERTHROW corruption and bribery …. not just avoid it.
Average citizens are able to ‘avoid’ bribery. That take no great set of balls.
Top class scholars are those who are prepared to DIE in the process of rooting it out….
Top class scholars are able to CHANGE PARADIGMS…
…add two and two… 🙂
The only way to handle this is to LOCK UP THE CRIMINAL MINORITIES AND THE CRIMINAL POLITICIANS AND MINISTERS…
why is that so hard fpr you to understand when that is how every other modern society handles it…what makes Barbados so different….
….Singapore executes corrupt government officials and business people, or gives them long stretches in prison, with a few lashes from a cane, since ya like that model.
Ya think minority criminals are too special to go to prison for their crimes, ya think international police will buy any of your lame excuses trying to justify bajan white tiefing, bribery, corruption and criminality because it benefits themm because they white or indian……dream on…, hope ya name dont get caught up,,,
…… it’s the only workable deterrent, international public shaming, humiliation and prison time.
@William Skinner September 18, 2017 at 4:44 AM “We should note that relatively speaking a considerable number of whites and other minorities have also been scholars but we do not expect them to enter politics or the public service .”
But I do, and we should all expect “whites and other minorities have also been scholars to enter politics and the public service.” You have received a good nursery, primary, secondary and university education at the hands of, and at the pockets of the Barbadian people. We want you in. It is payback time.
If you have a good brain, we want you in–you too money brain–and your children.
We want you back while you are still young and healthy and capable of good work. We welcome you to retire here. BUT retiring to Barbados is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
We want you while you are still young and healthy and capable of good work.
We know that bad coin drives out good. But we need our scholars to fight back. Do not give up your right to serve, and leave us to the mercies of unmerciful mediocre people.
This woman Simple Simon like she gotta whacker yuh!!!
If she keeps this shiite up…. Islandgal will become a fading Bushie-memory ….. 🙂
@Crusoe September 18, 2017 at 8:24 AM “You all can talk about the altruistic motivations”
Altruism is ALWAYS good.
Why do you think that I have donated 60 units of blood? Do you think that I got paid? Or expected pay? Or needed surgery myself? Or had family with a chronic illness who needed blood?
No. Altruism.
We must inculcate altruism in our children and in our children’s children. And in our Barbados scholars and exhibitioners. We have not done so, and that is our failing.
@Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 18, 2017 at 7:39 AM “Seriously as a scholar, could you see yourself demeaning and degrading yaself in the process
One CANNOT demean, degrade or diminish oneself by service to one’s people and/or ones country.
It is alright for you to stay overseas and shout and curse and abuse those of us who remained, or you returned while we were still young and able. But what have YOU done, besides shout and abuse and curse? If there is a fire and you do nothing but shout fire, fire, and you refuse to pour water on the fire how does that help?
When will you DO something?
When will you DO something which adds value to Barbados?
Simple and Bushman…make it your personal business to lock up all your criminal minorities and criminal politicians and ministers and you will see the island’s scholars enter politics and every area of government in droves, but yall have to get rid of ya blighted criminals first.
Do you see to what lengths the South African majority are going to get rid of the corrupt Zuma and those minorities whom he enables…., well start there…KPMG executives just got taken down for colluding, Bollinger of UK got taken down for creating mischief and destruction for black South Africans….and these are giants, not the little pissant nobodies ya have on the island who no one in the large countries have ever heard about, outside of some petty criminal activity or tiefing from poor people…..yall act like thiefjng minorities and tiefing government ministers got special powers…well they dont and can be taken to hell down just like everyone else..
And if ya will claim that ya cant get rid of your criminals in parliament and in the business community and you are the ones living there…..why subject scholars who dont need to live there, to that type of challenge if you yourselves are not up to the task.
Yall can’t expect not to get up and protest and fight…, but expect to get rid of those criminals, do something, no one else can do it but you…, call RCMP…INTERPOL…FBI…SCOTLAND YARD…if you have to, if you are pushed and give the information…
…many black bajans who complain the loudest about minorities and wicked corrupt ministers are the ones who keep their darkest deepest secrets for them that can lock them all up….maybe it’s time for those deepest, darkest, secrets to be revealed, if ya want to free yaselves from criminals.
Besides. ..the scholars who are intelligent enough to stay away until the implosion comes, are not the ones negatively impacted by the crimes of minorities and ministers/politicians…..but yall are, so do something….quickly..
To illustrate the point being made by Bushie and Simple Simon, let us take Peter Wickham. A second rate retard who goes around the place parading as a political guru and social scientist… as an example.
A fella who did not have the capacity to succeed – even at UWI, where jokers like Justin and others are seen as beacons – or even to excel at the 11+ stage …CAN NEVER have what it takes to bring needed CHANGE to political life in stinking Barbados as it currently is….
Shiite man… Wickham did not even have the balls to remain on BU when Bushie put the whacker in moderate gear ..and put some whacks in his retarded donkey.
Compare this with Money B, Jeff, Caswell and others, who clearly have at least the intestinal fortitude to stand up for their positions.
VERY FEW of us have the full package of skills and talents that are needed to bring the needed change. Among the scholars, Bushie hazards that probably ‘one-in-a-hundred’ comes close…. among the ordinary population, the figure is more like ‘one-in-a-hundred-thousand’ …. NONE of those in our current parliament is that ‘one’…
What is even WORSE now, is that in more recent times, the situation has deteriorated to the point where EVEN those who may be blessed with the needed human and technical qualities will FAIL to bring the needed change – UNLESS they are FULLY equipped to counter the SERIOUS DARK SPIRITUAL forces that have come on stream in our world….
The situation is dire, and worsening…. Without our VERY BEST AND BRIGHTEST leading the way, we may as well ALL give up and concentrate on wuk-up and wine and women…
Do you see to what lengths the South African majority are going to get rid of the corrupt Zuma and those minorities whom he enables…., well start there….
….cause they are not asking South Africans who live outside of South Africa to do it for them, they are doing it themselves….
…..too many bajans have enabled the corruption over the decades, yardfowls and others who get crumbs or pats on the heads or menial jobs for being good little negros…..who would you like to get in the middle of that….surely not the scholars or those who returned more than once and got burned each time…
Not me, I never get burned, cause I make sure to find out where evahbody live.
BTW…how do you know I dont continually add something to the island, I am not one to run into the newspapers to make myself look good each time I give away a candy bar, like many I see do to get a photo op in the Nation or Barbadostoday,……
…..no one needs to know what you contribute, but the recipient… that is the spirit of giving.
@Bush Tea September 18, 2017 at 9:59 AM “Wanted: a Real Man, with balls, stamina, impeccable ethical and moral fibre, strong social and intellectual skills, excellent academic qualifications, …..and MOST CRITICALLY, a LOVE for Barbados and BBBBs.
How is that not a Barbados Scholar somewhere…?”
That man will arise. And it WILL BE A WOMAN.
And I don’t mean Mia.
Even now I am raising that person.
Give me another 20 years to get the good job done.
Simple Simon
“We welcome you to retire here. BUT retiring to Barbados is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
You are right, of course. It took me 40+ years to find my way home but I have no intention of ever retiring… the work I was capable of 20 years ago can’t hold a candle to what I am capable of today, so don’t write of the grey haired brigade.
Bushie’s great advice for men and lesbians ” concentrate on wuk-up and wine and women “
Thanks Peter. Welcome again. There is no need for a good brain to retire at 65, or to retire at all.
Simple…if ya think handling those criminals with kids gloves and calling them sweet fake honorable names and massaging their oversized egos will get them to stop committing crimes against you, your family and the majority population…, welll think again, that only gives them more incentives to victimize and brutalize the populstion while robbing everyone,…cause ya insist on giving them respect they never earned and certainly dont deserve.
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They are all repulsive, both criminal ministers and criminal minorities….and telling them how good they are will not make them better….but will give you more fuel to complain….while people like myself will watch and smile because you choose to enable them as opposed to removing them, excising the cancers they have all become.
@ peterlawrencethompson wrote ” It took me 40+ years to find my way home ”
Have you found the Hurricane shelter yet ?
@ Hants
Bushie’s great advice for men and lesbians ” concentrate on wuk-up and wine and women “
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An apology is due to Bushie …who said no such thing…. 🙂
What Bushie said is that “UNLESS we get our brightest and best into leadership, we MAY AS WELL…..”
….accepted!
@ Simple Simon,
PLEASE do not raise up your beautiful daughter with ‘balls’…..
Such must be a VERY LAST resort …when ALL the men have been castrated (as John continues to emphasise….)
In the longer term, good women are even more critical to national development than men are – but in the SPECIFIC roles of fighting corruption, confronting evil Devils, facing down bribery and challenging crime lords, …Good MEN are VITAL….
In ANY case, there is NO SUCH THING as a strong, good, complete ‘MAN’ ….without a good, loving woman being half of that package……
Bushie I apologise for deliberately discombobulating your comment. lol
@Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 18, 2017 at 11:57 AM #
Simple…if ya think handling those criminals with kids gloves and calling them sweet fake honorable names and massaging their oversized egos…cause ya insist on giving them respect they never earned and certainly don’t deserve.”
I THINK no such thing. I DO no such things.
…but in the SPECIFIC roles of fighting corruption, confronting evil Devils, facing down bribery and challenging crime lords, …Good MEN are VITAL….
so where are they, you cant seriously be waiting for male scholars complete with females to watch their backs…and others, to journey away from lives that are more settled than what they can expect from a corrupt, slave society…
…these people also know of the history of Bussa, and what he endured trying to help his own people…
PLT…hope you have not forgotten in your quest to make the requisite changes and give back, many who complain bitterly will be the first to run tell the criminal minorities and criminal politicians/ministers your plans….judas resides in their bloodstreams.
I had the best secondary school education that Barbados could offer at HC in the late 60s & early 70s. I understand that many of my schoolmates are nostalgic about that time in their lives, but it would be a grave mistake to characterize it as a good education. It basically imitated the English Eton tradition and taught the following:
* a sense of moral superiority because we were assumed by the society around us to be tomorrow’s leaders,
* a reverence for tradition because we were at the top of that traditional hierarchy,
* how to imbibe information quickly and regurgitate it on an exam paper because your entire 7 years of learning in any subject had to be expressed in a single 3 hour A level Cambridge exam.
The first two lessons were worse than useless. The third I found of great practical value in passing university engineering exams by cramming for 48 hours having spent all the rest of the term chasing young women and playing the fool, but in actual life it has been of very limited utility.
We will not be able to create the education system that Barbados needs by casting our eyes back nostalgically to the past.
@Bush Tea September 18, 2017 at 12:12 PM “PLEASE do not raise up your beautiful daughter with ‘balls’”
Intellectual, moral and spiritual balls…not the little physical appendages.
Lolll!!!
@Simple Simon September 18, 2017 at 12:29 PM #
It has always amused me that we use testicles as a metaphor for strength… small, exposed, vulnerable, and fragile. The vagina is a much better metaphor… flexible, adaptable, productive, life giving, etc.
Whenever someone calls me a cunt I take it as a supreme compliment
lol…
@peterlawrencethompson September 18, 2017 at 12:37 PM “It has always amused me that we use testicles as a metaphor for strength… small, exposed, vulnerable, and fragile. The vagina is a much better metaphor… flexible, adaptable, productive, life giving, etc.”
Exactly.
It is still a male centric world, and that male centricism is also embedded in the language.
What strength does it take for 24 mostly young men to have lost their lives already this year and for many more than 25 mostly young men to have lost their liberty?
Unless those who own balls believe that life and liberty are inconsequential.
All of these dozens of men, have mothers and grandmothers, and most of them have sisters, aunts, female cousins, daughters etc.
We need to find the why and then we need to fix it. I don’t have the answers either, but then I am no scholar.
WW wrote,
The only way to handle this is to LOCK UP THE CRIMINAL MINORITIES AND THE CRIMINAL POLITICIANS AND MINISTERS…
why is that so hard fpr you to understand when that is how every other modern society handles it…what makes Barbados so different….
While I totally agree on this prey tell how does Hilly Billy get away with rampant corruption in the US where U supposedly live? How can there be a much greater crime than selling out your country? I wont list their other crimes as time is limited.
I am surprised that no one has written in defense of those “scholars” who remained behind to guide the fortunes of the country. It is an admission of failure for the “Bushies” and “Johns” of this world to bleat about the outstanding scholars who remained “over and away” and failed to return while they were given the keys to the family chariot and drove it into the ditch.
I think that we spend to much time idolizing scholarship winners and expecting great things of them in the future.
All that it takes to win a scholarship is talent for taking in information and regurgitating it on an exam paper. This is not life. This is not even an adequate metaphor for life.
@Money Brain, September 18, 2017 at 12:49 PM #
“how does Hilly Billy get away with rampant corruption”
Careful Money Brain, if you go off on this tangent everyone will know your full identity 😉
Bushie wrote,
What is even WORSE now, is that in more recent times, the situation has deteriorated to the point where EVEN those who may be blessed with the needed human and technical qualities will FAIL to bring the needed change – UNLESS they are FULLY equipped to counter the SERIOUS DARK SPIRITUAL forces that have come on stream in our world….
The situation is dire, and worsening…. Without our VERY BEST AND BRIGHTEST leading the way, we may as well ALL give up and concentrate on wuk-up and wine and women…
How come there are those who say that Darcy is a dangerous fella, he was a Bdos Scholar? He is not a MP but has been in high places for quite awhile. I have no info on him so cant judge.
Money Brain wrote
How come there are those who say that Darcy is a dangerous fella, he was a Bdos Scholar?
Darcy’s signature is on the Cahill scandal. QED.
https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/power-purchase-agreement-signed-barbados-march-15-2014.pdf
PLT,
WW was waxing on about how the US deals with transgressors of the corrupt kind. We know that certain powerful types of the most corrupt variety are walking free, so I could not resist reminding WW.
PLT,
I was making the point that Bdos Scholars are not necessarily part of the solution.
Thanks for the Cahill link.
@ PLT
All that it takes to win a scholarship is talent for taking in information and regurgitating it on an exam paper
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True.
But it is better than those who are unable to EVEN do that basic chore.
A half a loaf is better than a Hal Austin….
haaaa ha ha
Wuhloss…
@ Sargeant
Bushie is not a scholar.
He is a basic, stinking bushman with a big-ass whacker.
…you mean John, …but he is busy digging up the cemeteries trying to rewrite history…
@ PLT
As you well know… we ‘use testicles as a metaphor for strength’ because this is where testosterone is manufactured.
Oestrogen is a COMPLETELY different compound …that produces completely different characteristics.
Who are we to question the design concepts of the great creator…?
What makes you or Simple Simon a more discerning concept strategist than Bushie’s step dad?
…which man or woman wunna ever made…?
…While I totally agree on this prey tell how does Hilly Billy get away with rampant corruption in the US where U supposedly live? How can there be a much greater crime than selling out your country? I wont list their other crimes as time is limited….
MoneyB…….they are close to serving trumptard with warrants, ask me if i care, i would like both him and Killary to share the same metal bracelets…
ya may not have heard, but Mueller got a warrant and facebook gave up a ton of Russian info…all i ask is that Mueller work faster…and if Killary gets snagged, thats a twofer….i cant stand politicians, particulary those two.
WW, Lock dem both up! Then lock up Mueller, Comey, Debbie WS, Podesta, and a very long line of corrupt Pols.
Build de Wall around Washington! (anudder one round Wall St tuh)
@ Money B
I was making the point that Bdos Scholars are not necessarily part of the solution.
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Not a logical point.
Complex problems require high level interventions.
Simple minded brass bowls CANNOT be expected to solve complex, inter-related, multi-disciplinary problems in a fast-changing society …. when they are challenged to grasp the difference between 0,07 and 0,7 …. or where they are wont to multiply 200,000 ten dollar ($10) contributions …and arrive at $20M.
…or even where they are challenged to follow Bushie’s simple logic.
It is altogether self-evident then, that the KIND of brass bowls that MAY be capable of solving such problems WILL be the sort that – at the very least – ARE able to pass 11+ and go on to win scholarship- since (as PLT correctly points out,) THAT is a relatively basic obstacle to cross.
If you were looking for an Olympic champion sprinter – at the VERY least that person should be among those who could run fast at inter school sports….
Darcy Boyce has many of the attributed that COULD define a great leader, …but so did David Thompson……
Even among the MOST talented, Bushie sees only about one in a hundred OF THESE ELITE scholars …as being fully qualified.
Outside of this group, it would be about one in one hundred thousand…. ordinary BBs..
The current leadership challenges are THAT complex, dangerous, and fast changing….
…He is not a MP but has been in high places for quite awhile. …
thats the problem, he has been in the highest of low places, an errand boy, your garden variety sell out negro, easy to manipulate, go along to get along.
am sure everyone witnessed how far that got the ex governor of the central bank.
when you are weak, you become expendable.
Bushie,
Book learning is one aspect but there is much more growth / experience after Bdos Schol. As PLT makes clear learning and regurgitating is but a small part of becoming a top notch human. Your analogy is faulty because winning the 100 at interschool sports directly translates to 100 m races whereas winning a Bdos Schol does not mean you can manage anything, especially people. Many brilliant Math Scholars are poor Math teachers.
i agree walls should be built so none of them can get out and thousands of miles of razor wire wrapped around both walls, that would keep everyone else safe.
Elombe Mottley may be a progressive thinker to many in Barbados, but in my mind he demonstrates his ignorance as a supreme illiterate in matters of medicine, and medical schools when he suggests that there should be medical schools here……..there and everywhere in Barbados.
During the years I hung around offshore Medical schools, there are at least two things that I learned.
1. These schools find it difficult to bring in teachers from overseas because of the COST OF PAYING FOR WORK PERMITS FOR TEACHERS FROM OVERSEAS
2. Producing the most excellent website, whereupon thy can spew lie upon lie to lure unwary would be students and wannabe doctors to train at these schools.
I would enjoin commenters here to go to the websites of both AUB, and WUB and notice that not only are the websites very poor (suggesting that we are dealing with very poor con artists) but that there are no medical teachers at any of the schools who are Barbadians, and ask why? This at a time where several other offshore schools are now forced to employ locals to teach.
Why is it that WUB (see faculty and staff webpage) have few well qualified teachers listed on their site but yet they list 7 chefs and 7 security guards.
Who is collecting all the money for the WORK PERMITS for these staff members, I wonder?
I would invite you to go to this webpage on the valueMD site http://www.valuemd.com/washington-university-barbados-school-medicine-wub/
and follow the discussion on the thread
new medical school in barbados in trouble already
Notice that the valueMD moderator has tried to shut up the poster.
Then try to use ctrl and C to try to download anything from this website and note that they have disabled ctrl and C
Then let us start a blog entitled BARBADOS AND OFFSHORE MEDICAL SCHOOLS DO W REALLY NEED THM? Then let us try to understand and thrash out whether our Government has really sold out our medical education for thirty pieces of silver.
Please also read this thread on valueMD
http://www.valuemd.com/main-foreign-medical-schools-forum/246323-allegations-report-true.html
WUB website is http://www.wubmed.org/
AUB website is http://www.aubmed.org/
@Dr.GP
Three or more links in a comment are diverted to the moderation queue.
@Dr.GP
You obviously know what you are talking about on this matter, we started a page ‘Barbados Medical Schools’ to allow for wide discussion, check the top of the BU homepage. The link can be shared to encourage views on the matter.
https://barbadosunderground.wordpress.com/barbados-medical-schools-american-university-of-barbados-washington-university-of-barbados/
@ Money B…
( to Bushie)
Your analogy is faulty because winning the 100 at interschool sports directly translates to 100 m races whereas winning a Bdos Schol does not mean you can manage anything,
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Boss..
It is your mis-interpretation of Bushie’s analogy that is faulty…
The bushman NEVER said that winning a scholarship means that you can be a successful manager.
What Bushie DID say, was that “those FEW-and-FAR-between, who CAN manage successfully – are SURE to have been among the ones that passed the 11+ and won scholarships…
Top leaders are therefore a sub-set of the scholarship winners…
Simplified for Hal’s benefit… 🙂
Not all scholarship winners are successful managers at the level required, …BUT 99.9% of those who are CAPABLE of successful leadership will find the scholarship (and 11+ before that) to be cake…
@ peterlawrencethompson September 18, 2017 at 12:38 PM
“Whenever someone calls me a cunt I take it as a supreme compliment”
OMG!! LOL!!!
PLT, you are simply the best when it comes to a Freudian sense of ‘wicked’ humour.
Never really associated you with such devotedly committed love of worship at the Mons Veneris!
In ‘true’ Judeo-Christian mythological thought a “Cunt” with the crowning glory of a hidden clitoris of pure pleasure was the last thing the anthropomorphic Creator made before going to sleep on the 7th day and, like His son RIP Van Winkle, woke up a few days later to find ‘He’ made a rather irreversibly serious mistake to lead man into eternal damnation.
After your imaginatively fertile description above of a true “cunt” it has to be supremely futile for the likes of Bushie and his gang of misogynists to ever conceive that the female human being is inferior and subservient to the male.
There is no species in the Solar Deity’s ‘creatively’ evolutionary process where the male is ‘superior’ to the female. Not even among flora.
So to let us agree that a male like Bushie cannot be a cunt in the ‘true’ sense of the word and that his god the BBE has to be female to create such a beautiful creature of a Black Bajan Brass Bowl in Her own image.
PS: to Hal Austin: Please do not read or comment for you will be totally lost and only make yourself look like a really ‘risible’ jenny of a johnny living among the dead of brass bowls.
millertheanunnaki September 18, 2017 at 3:06 PM #
As Leonard Cohen, my favorite songwriter, put it:
So I knelt there at the delta
at the alpha and the omega
at the cradle of the river
and the seas
And like a blessing come from heaven
for something like a second
I was healed, and my heart
was at ease.
Hey GP…good to see you again, I invoked you just recently.
@ Georgie Porgie,
Glad you are on BU. Hope Irma did not spank you.
Your contributions to the Medical Corner are still useful as a reference for some of us.
@ David did you see yhis ?
MARIA BECOMES A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE
…THE EYE AND THE INTENSE INNER CORE IS NEARING DOMINICA.
David
Thanks ………..BUT
There is no box there in which to post
THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS INFO TO BE ON A SEPARATE BLOG TO THAT IT CAN B TRANSMITTED VIA STUDENT DR VALUE MD ETC AND TRANSMITTED WORLDWIDE THE CENSURE
@Dr.GP
Sorry, comments were inadvertently turned off.
Just saw a post Hurricane Maria, CAT5 if you please, blew the roof off PM Roosevelt Skerritt’s house and he had to be rescued…he posted to facebook.
This is what students who reach thrir full potential do, when they realize they have the potential to build empires….they build their own, not continue to help others build theirs…
“200,000 People Downloaded Her App Within Two Weeks, and Forbes Magazine is Calling Her “The Next Steve Jobs”
Angel Richer, founder of the Credit Stack app and The Wealthy Life
Angel Rich, from Washington, DC, has developed a very innovative app called Credit Stacker that teaches students about personal finance, credit management, and entrepreneurship in a fun and engaging way. The app is so popular that 200,000 people downloaded it to their smart phones and tablets within just two weeks of it’s launch. Even more, Forbes has named her “The Next Steve Jobs”.
Remarkably, the app has been named the “best financial literacy product in the country” by the Office of Michelle Obama, the “best learning game in the country” by the Department of Education, and the “best solution in the world for reducing poverty” by JP Morgan Chase. It has won first place in several business competitions including the Industrial Bank Small Business Regional Competition and the Black Enterprise Elevator Pitch Competition. All in all, Angel has won more than $50,000 in business grants.
Her background
Angel was raised in Washington, DC, and graduated from Hampton University. She also studied at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing, China.
After winning Prudential’s annual National Case competition for her marketing plan to reach millennials, she worked briefly as a global market research analyst for Prudential, where she conducted over 70 financial behavior modification studies.
She says that during her time there, she helped the company generate more than $6 billion in revenue. She resigned, however in 2013, to start her own company, The Wealth Factory.”
Principal of Erdiston Teachers’ Training College, Dr Patricia Saul, is concerned about the slipping literacy rate in Barbados.
She said according to the most recent statistics published by UNESCO, 773 million adults and young people lacked basic literacy skills, and more than 617 million children and adolescents were not achieving minimum proficiency levels in reading and mathematics.
“No doubt the COVID-19 pandemic has exacerbated these problems. In Barbados, there is a growing concern that the proportion of the population lacking functional reading and writing skills is far too high in spite of the fact that we have universal access to education. This is a serious hindrance to the development of our people and our country,” Saul said.
She was speaking during a ceremony yesterday to mark International Literacy Day celebrations in the Dorothy King Teaching Complex, at the Pine Road, St Michael college. ..(Quote)