Warrens Roundabout – Politicians Must Listen to Citizens

Warrens-Bridgetown

Why do politicians ignore feedback?

The BU household vividly recalls the period during which the Greenland Landfill debate was a hot topic. Despite the sensible feedback offered by Barbadians the government of the day forged ahead with the project and today we are saddled with the result –millions of tax dollars wasted.

Former Minster of Transport and Works John Boyce has come out in defense of the work Government has done to improve traffic congestion in the Greater Warrens, St Michael, area – (Barbados Today 11 February 2014)

In 2014 after the government constructed the Warrens (oblong) roundabout circa 2012 there was an avalanche of criticism about the project and a flood of feedback was offered to the ministry by the public. One does not have to be an expert or consultant to determine that the Warrens roundabout was poorly designed based on the number of accidents and near misses that occur weekly.

How on earth can the authorities permit traffic to cross two lanes to enter the Simpsons complex when exiting from the West? How does one allow traffic to cross two lanes of traffic to enter the Warrens gas station when exiting the roundabout from the East?

Barbadians were pleased however to hear Minister Michael Lashley address the concerns of Barbadians when he finally admitted last week that the Warrens roundabout will undergo remedial work.  Millions of dollars later what was obvious to ordinary Barbadians from the initial construction will be addressed.

No doubt a few will be smiling all the way to the bank.

104 comments

  • What about the WILDEY TRIANGLE, black Bagan traffic designers are totally out of their element, let’s give the problem to some kindergardeners to solve.

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  • Coyote

    Warren’s was designed by Abdul Pandor, last time I check he was not a black bajan road designer. The problem with Warrens is quite simple, get rid of the need for both showrooms of Simpson Motors to have direct access to the highway.

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  • The turn right into SOL Warrens should be stop by constructing an island and forcing traffic to the KFC roundabout. Obviously that decision was influenced by the ownership of the gas station and not good sense.

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  • @Own Area

    He is in fact Bagan, he was appointed to the Drainage Unit by David Thompson from Chairman of NHC and then to lead the redesign of that ABC HIGHWAY. Does not sound to me to be any prerequisite for a highway designer, more nepotism than experience.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    That tilting Warrens rouudabout is a stupidly designed death trap, I noticed it upon one of my returns….and why is this dude Pandpr involved in so many different government controlled matters involving bajans…which corrupt ministers set him loose on the population.

    …. not forgetting that drivers DO NOT like to stop at the crosswalks for pedestrians to cross from the H&B Hardware side to the Chefette/Massy side even when all other traffic has stopped as a courtesy, one lane of traffic will continue speeding and refuse to stop for pedestrians to cross……they do not look out for pedestrians.

    Every jackass living off the backs of the population have a say and the population do not have any say and are never listened to by these uppity, arrogant government ministers.

    And let’s not get started on that Wildey 3 or 4 lane death trap.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Niw we know Wily..

    …..and why is this dude Pandor involved in so many different government controlled matters involving bajans…which corrupt ministers set him loose on the population.

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  • @ wily coyote

    A designer of wells , named Inniss , from the Drainage Unit of MTW came onto a lot of land without asking the owner, and placed a well in the wrong position ,the well made the flooding situation worse , Inniss boldly stated nobody can tell him where to put a well, the well was supposed to be 40 ft, but, it is 20ft.

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  • @WELL WELL

    “…. not forgetting that drivers DO NOT like to stop at the crosswalks for pedestrians to cross”

    Assuming Barbados Crosswalks at Roundabouts follow UK traffic laws, the pedestrians can only enter the crosstalk when there is no oncoming traffic, ie: vehiclar traffic has the right of way at roundabout crossways, pedestrians right of way is dependant on NO TRAFFIC.

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  • @Watchman

    NEPOTISM RULES.

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  • There are three issues with pedestrian crossings in Barbados.

    1. Many need repainting.
    2. Many are located very close to the exit of the roundabout.

    3.The attitude of many pedestrians is poor. They saunter across the crossing sometimes carrying on cellphone conversations -no problem.

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  • Here is who the designers and government pandered to when designing this nonsense
    Simpson Motors
    Williams Industries
    Shell & Sagicor
    Chefette
    Cusumers Guarantee
    KFC

    A blasted disaster.

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  • @Owen Area

    Absent from you list is the public.

    What the no prolix highligh seeks to do is how ministers can twist on a dime and we fail to hold them accountable.

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  • Wily,

    You are wrong. Pedestrians have the right of way at pedestrian crossings. That is the problem with some of the new immigrants from Eastern Europe. They do not stop. I hope y do not drive in Britain.

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  • It is a total disaster. At least the one at Wildey is for the greater good of keeping the teeffic moving in that area and has had a great and positive impact on that regard. The Warren’s roundabout and the project generally is piss poor and shame and blight on a country where the people are suppose to be intelligent.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Ah think it’s different in Barbados Wily, while a courtesy, if 2 lanes of traffic stops for pedestrians to cross, the drivers in the 3rd lane should not be speeding along, pretending they are unaware and distracted, which can not only kill the pedestrians but is discouteous to the drivers who have the courtesy to stop and results in holding up traffic, creating longer lines at the roundabout, while the pedestrians wait for one driver who have the courtesy to stop and let them cross….lights may need to be added for pedestrian crossing. …and will only happens when these uncouth drivers kill someone at the Warrens pedestrian crossing…as that Transport driver killed a pedestrian in her 80s at the pedestrian crossing in the bus terminal…they do nothing, take no action until someone is killed, these useless governments and even then it is still ignored and takes decades to actually happen.

    Besides…Barbados has too many damn roundabouts, it’s like an addiction.

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  • Have to admit the triangle is not as problematic.

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  • I can’t believe that we want to spend money on anything that does not improve our foreign exchange competitiveness at this time. Just teach users to use the oblong with due care and consideration. This is simply NOT priority expenditure. Bajan drivers ride their gas pedals like if fuel is free. Get real and hold your horses Barbados, we are heading for a wall !!

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Wily…in North America one lane of traffic is allowed to move at the same time pedestrians are crossing, so everyone has to be vigilant…of course ya get the cockups where a pedestrian is killed because of speeding or drunk driving etc…but it is clear and if I remember correctly…in the Barbados driver’s manual…when a pedestrian steps off the sidewalk….you, the driver, stop and wait until they have cleared the road before driving iof..,.but these new uncouth drivers do not even wait for you to clear the road before zooming off…..some people are disabled and cannot skate across a streets or 2 streets…

    ……besides, it takes no more than 20 minutes to get anywhere in Barbados…the island is that small…so what’s their hurry and they always seem to be in a hurry.

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  • Throw away the T-Squares and circle templates.

    https://www.aimsun.com/aimsun/new-features/

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  • Some of you like to boast about how great everything in North America works…..

    2016 the deadliest year for pedestrians in Toronto in over a decade

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/2016-the-deadliest-year-for-pedestrians-in-toronto-in-over-a-decade-1.3891808

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  • Roundabouts were first introduced by the Dutch; they are now busy removing them with traffic lights.
    I remember the advertisement on television teaching people how to drive at roundabouts. It is still a problem.
    How can people pass their driving tests when not capable of driving at roundabouts? I say again, we need a dedicated traffic police team to sort out this traffic chaos..

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  • Not really Hal.

    The chaotic traffic situation is just a symptom of a societal problem.

    We have these machines that can do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds on an island not conducive.

    We need a Barrow type leader to say no car greater than 1300 cc to be sold for leisure and limit one per household. There is the opportunity to implement ferry and park and ride services.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Who is boasting…have you seen the deaths by speeding drunk driving, careless driving and just plainzoned out drivers in the US…..

    Just a month ago an 18 wheeler was driving near Prospect Park and smushed a lady into unrecognizable mincemeat, they just picked up a bag offkeshfrom thestreet, she was crossing the road and the driver drove merrily away and swore he never saw her and never even knew he hitsomeone…when he was found a day later…which is understandable given just the size of tractor trailers.

    The issue is too many bajan drivers are careless and act like the lives of pedestrians dont count and dont matter…….just like a few years ago when they were deliberately running down and killing bicycle riders because they felt they slowed them down.

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  • The Warrens roundabout is fine.

    Barbadians simply drive like hangmen: speeding and driving too CLOSE to the next car in front. If everybody would drive not faster than 30 km/h in said area, everything would be fine.

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  • David@8.57a
    Tron@9.08a
    Both contributions make lost of sense.We wonder if the flyovers were not the better outcome to some of these traffic nightmares.I often remember how Bermuda limited the type and capacity of vehicles and how they dealt with water management.Of course Bermuda is subject to an oversight which continues to serve them well despite the corrupt wannabees who clamber for change.

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  • @ Gabriel
    Bermuda has a National Supervisory Committee.

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  • @Hal Austin April 12, 2017 at 7:32 AM #

    Your wrong HAL, pedestrians typically have the right of way on crosswalks with the exception of those at the entrance and exit of roundabouts, go check your UK Road Rules.

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  • Re my post @9.22a …what I meant to write was……’Both contributions make lots of sense’…..predictive texts sometimes take the cake conveying the opposite of intention.

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  • Wily,
    Well I have been driving for all these years and got it wrong. The Highway Code, paragraph 11, states quite clearly that until you put a foot on the zebra crossing traffic does not have to stop, but once the pedestrian has stepped on to the zebra crossing traffic must stop. Have a look at Zebra Pedestrian Crossings Regulations 1971.
    I will also tell you a story: in the winter of 1968/9 a young black woman was killed on a zebra crossing. At the inquest the driver claimed he did not see anyone. He got off.

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  • Someone needs to tell me how big intelligent people could sit down and design that shite at the Warrens roundabout and then follow through and build it? I tell you, the answer is not that complex and it certainly is not due to incompetency of those involved.

    The shite roundabout is neither fish not fowl, it is everything to everyone to nothing to all at the same time. That roundabout has been designed and built to all of the commercial owners in the area with no concern whatsoever about the safety of the driving or pedestrian public.

    Only in crappy Barbados could that be conceived and built.

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  • And while I am on it……………………… look at the shite that has been built at the entrance at Coverley. That is a clear and ever-present danger to driving public for which a number of accidents have already occurred. It has probably also contributed to or been responsible for an accident which caused the death of a child.

    I make bold to say that if that was my child who lost his or her life because of the shite at Covereley’s entrance then NOT even high residential perimeter walls, security guards and security at government offices could keep those responsibly SAFE from my own form of justice.

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  • The worst traffic in Barbados is between 7-9 AM and 3.30-6 PM, caused by insane one way streets like Princess Alice Hwy/Hincks Rd or the triangle of doom at Rubis Wildey/SOL Wildey and roundabouts not working.

    Barbados as a nation loses at least 10% of GDP due to the bad traffic! People wait in their cars instead of doing business.

    Solution as said on BU:
    – limit the number and engine size/power of cars per family and lower duties for import at same time to beef up purchase power for other items
    – ban gas/diesel cars after 2025, use electrical cars instead; Barbados has plenty of solar power
    – lower top speed at critical points like roundabout to 30 km/h
    – lower top speed at night to 50 km/h
    – install speed cameras
    – enforce the law
    – repair the roads

    However, we all know, this will never happen, given the insanity of local self-governance.

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  • @David April 12, at 8:57 AM… re ” The chaotic traffic situation is just a symptom of a societal problem. We have these machines that can do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds on an island not conducive.”

    Quite true. Small island roads with too many cars. But why do we “…need a Barrow type leader to say no car greater than 1300 cc to be sold for leisure and limit one per household.”

    Are you suggesting that commonsense does not otherwise exist in the minds of the Bajan people. Perish the thought!!!

    But seriously, it is reasonable to opine that Bajans are absolutely happy to have three or fours cars per household…per the remarks attributed to the JMGM administration that such an eventuality was the epitome of success for the island and supposedly Bajans so ‘driven’.

    That concept of ferries/park & ride is now long past it’s sell by date. Frankly things like ride-sharing easily supplants that heavy investment and basic ‘inconvenience’.

    But the Bajan people are the ones who need to drive the politicians on this. We appear to desire the fanciest air-con big cars and do not want motorized bicycles, scooters and the like because it’s too frigging hot and we can’t parade with our peeps wid dem.

    More open parks space with nice gardens to relax solves the latter issue. Not sure about the heat thing tho! LOLL.

    — Incidentally, when did the accepted road traffic codes/laws change internationally? Whether in US, Can, LatAm or Europe (on roads I have used) the same rules re ped crossing applied.

    Unfortunately pedestrians get killed on cross-walks much too often…nothing particular about Bim or UK for that matter.

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  • @Dee Word

    Who own the auto dealerships? The large garages? Importantly what about the revenue generated from this line of business? Yes you need a strong leader lead us via a different path.

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  • No what is needed are for the laws to be enforced and get these stupid drivers off the road.The idiot that killed the policeman he is a typical example of some of the ignorance that drives on the highway daily and doesnt care
    Police enforcement is necesary in the prevention of accidents.but no everybody here has a bleeding heart until the next victim loses their life because of a jack a.ss then arms wave hell break lose and nothing happens.
    Enforce the laws and fix the problems

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  • @David 8:57 AM post “We need a Barrow type leader to say no car greater than 1300 cc to be sold for leisure and limit one per household. There is the opportunity to implement ferry and park and ride services.”
    I have two neighbors with five family members in each household and they own ten cars between the two families spread between SUV’s, high end saloon, truck and regular vehicles. And yet, we claim that we are suffering and can’t get ends to meet. This may be sour grapes on my part but why does anyone need a Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Range Rover to get from point A to point B on an island 14×21. What it boils down to is that these high end high performance vehicles are required to move around the egos of the owners. This is how they remind us how much they are worth and to hell with the lack of foreign exchange for day to day survival.

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  • @Fearplay

    What you wrote about the ego trip is probably true but isn’t the behaviour encouraged by government because of the resignation to support the status quo?

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  • Minister Michael Lashley address the concerns of Barbadians when he finally admitted last week that the Warrens roundabout will undergo remedial work.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Where can this remedial plan be seen,

    When is it scheduled to start and be completed,

    Who will be responsible,

    What will be the cost and which budget will it come from?

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  • @Vincent

    In response to the question when he assured very soon.

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  • David

    Chuckle…..I thought so…..pissing in the wind.

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  • Definitely David. Take for instance some or most of the members of government (both parties), – before elections some of them would be happy with a lift in a ZR because of their humble means but immediately upon appointment to a position in government they are driven to own some of the biggest and the best that bribery can buy. Just wait until after they leave office and the vehicle reaches the end of its useful life, well its back to the old struggle buggy. With traffic congestion growing on a daily basis, we definitely need to limit the number of cars per household.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    London…….Fruendel and .the government ministers owned by Mark Maloney refuse to tell him to remove thd illegal and dangerous structure he built at the entrance of Coverley, which contributed to the death of that child and which Mark Maloney lied about, with a smile.

    The ministers are the biggest problem on the island both them and their corrupt minority owners.

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  • FearPlay

    What makes them so disposed to show off their ill-gotten gains? A smart man would be humble and not seek to draw attention to himself given his position and the obvious assumptions that go therewith.

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  • Everything has its own form of justice and retribution is never far behind.

    While people may ascribed to Mr. Maloney a lot of attributessuch as and including dedication and perseverance it is a major character flaw if a man is willing to put the commercial and financial interest above and beyond caring whether its consequences have dire and life threatening implications for fellow human beings.

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  • @Fearplay

    Interesting comment when judged against the TCP decision not to do a TIA for the Hyatt project.

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  • David

    Hyatt was given a pass to proceed. That passage was navigated and captained all the way from the bottom to the top and back down again.

    Coverley was built because a man needed thru put for his pre-cast concrete plant and we know what an eye-soar we have been left with there on the ABC highway. The GOB and people of Barbados got stuck with that project cause each and every unsold house must be bought back by the MOH and NHC.

    What do you think Hyatt is and why do you think it needs to be 15 storeys? So besides the blight this will be on the roadscape into Bridgetown, what do you think the taxpayers will be saddled with if and when all the concrete has been deleivered and erected, the project finished and the hotel struggles to be viable in that presently less than desirable location?

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  • David

    If you own a dog and he bites you once

    A certain action should be taken

    When you allow that dog to continually bite you

    Then, the dog is the master and you are the canine.

    Once that relationship has changed, and for so long

    It is then impossible to bring the dogs to heel, ever

    Lest a tectonic event, or series of events.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    The bottom feeding governments, both of them, are known to bend over backwards and overlook the destruction of their own people and the island to accommodate these same small time crooks and minorities the government ministers aid in financially elevating. …with taxpayer’s money and now in the last 9 years of this useless government…with NIS pensioner’s money.

    And Maloney had the nerve some weeks ago to still try to dip his hands in taxpayer’s money through the same dumb government ministers….because that Hyatt project is costly….it will suck the life out of anyone stupid enough to put money into it.

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  • Let’s look at Hyatt; what financial guarantees will be put in place to ensure that the GoB and people of Barbados do not awake one morning to find that this is not just another project, hurriedly approved, only later to discover that there are insufficient funds to achieve completion. This one is in the heart of Bridgetown. Has anything like this ever happened before? Could it happen again?

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  • Roundabouts cost less to maintain than traffic lights.

    Nothing wrong with roundabouts as long as the signs and lines on the road are clear.

    The problem on the roads is the brassbowl idiots that do not use common sense.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Yes….. the Bizzy, Cow, Pemberton 4 seasons scam with Mia Mottley as their lawyer, when they ran out of money and David Thompson intervened ……that cost NIS pension fund 60 million US dollars that none of the ministers will tell the people where that money is……from the Redjet fiasco and 4 seasons scam all these thieves have had their eyes glued to the pension fund.

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  • A carefully formulated plan to build fly-overs got derailed by persons, supposedly professional engineers included, driven purely by politics. After grandstanding and politicking on the folly of fly-overs Thompson, given his love for dramatics, ‘fired’ 3S, did not have a better plan and resorted to a make shift solution for a complex problem. I repeat a makeshift solution i.e. government by vaps!! 9 years later we are in a worse traffic management position and surprise…..stupse.

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  • Hants,
    The reason why even the Dutch are rejecting roundabouts is the accident rate.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    I remenber 3S had sued the Barbados government for breach of contract, because the other idiot government had contracted them with extremely high cost overruns and Thompson fired them when he was elected, because of course he too had his own greedy agenda. ..whatever happened to that case.

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  • Hal – Roundabouts are also locations of high levels of air pollution and are not pedestrian friendly.

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  • True. There are also used by Indian gangsters in Britain to deliberate hit cars for insurance purposes.

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  • Some time ago I observed in passing certain West Coast high end restaurants I see Mercs,Beamers and Range Rovers parked in the compound.This is 10 am.I have said before that’s why these restaurants charge such high tariff.Its not the expense of the produce and other items,it’s the high life show off albino asses we have on this island that think they are owed a living and are allowed to bring in albino managers and chefs at will.Pay the locals little pay the furriners massive and give them big rides at company expense.Bloody clowns killing the goose.

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  • Replace roundabouts with traffic lights.

    That would be a nice $20 million project. Who will get the 10% ? lol

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  • The ugly man from england just can’t hide his innate dislike for people who he presumes are not as loyal to pound and crown.

    The ‘other’

    This time it is the ‘Indian gangsters’

    This slave is no better than King Dyal, a court jester.

    We have often wonder if there are no ills of those White people or their systems which this consummate idiot find as gangsterism.

    At the centre of British society.

    There has never been any sustain critique of his slave masters.

    Is such a person not worthy of death?

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    There is nothing wrong with roundabouts. Not one bloody thing. The problem is that Barbados road traffic laws are weak, surveillance is even weaker, and penalties too paltry. Technology is available to deal with those who break the traffic rules on a daily basis. It is an easy fix but those in charge seems to love it the way that it is.

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  • Must agree with you, SSS, I’ve done my driver training in a southern English port city, which had some very complicated roundabouts , at that time. I soon learn to master them, and this is only a couple of months after leaving Barbados, which at the time did not have a single roundabout , not counting the traffic circles which were long established in Rockley and Graeme Hall communities. The only roundabout which I observed presented some problems to unfamiliar drivers , were those in Germany. Germany had two types of roundabouts, a National Roundabout, (Red roundabout sign) and an International Roundabout,(Blue Roundabout Sign) both of exactly the same design. The confusing difference to many was that at the National Roundabout, vehicles already on the roundabout were mandated to give way to traffic on the Right wishing to enter the roundabout. (Germans drive on the Right side of the road)
    The problems at Warrens Roundabout will always be with us,and we will continue to throw good money away in an effort to appease some of the surrounding businesses ,which seemed to have built without proper planning.
    The authorities,whether its Town and Country Planning or MTW ,must bite the bullet and construct industrial ring roads. One encircling the Simpson Motors side and the other the Massy Side. The former accessible from the Jackson Roundabout and the latter from the proposed Cigarette Factory Roundabout, doing away with the lollipops and other “short” term measures, and reverting the Simpson Roundabout to a simple (Bajan) circular roundabout. Thus enable the roads which are now chocked with traffic, to become more or less, By-Pass roads.

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  • @Colonel Buggy

    A big part of the problem caused by our roundabouts is that traffic should give way before entering the roundabout if the exit is impeded.

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  • @enuff

    You are well aware the 3S deal came under scrutiny and perhaps this distracted from the debate.

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  • @Pacha

    In theory yes but human behaviour cannot always be logically explained.

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  • David – Yes the “deal”, but I am talking about the concept. Thompson could have addressed the “deal” and kept the concept.

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  • @Hal

    “Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.”

    In other words the pedestrian cannot step onto the zebra markings unless it is safe ti do so with respect to vehicular traffic.

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  • David

    Well explained

    At the same time this idiot from england pretends to be some fountain of knowledge

    And in all his years here we are yet to see a sustained critique of the british

    The underlying reasons peoples from all over the world find themselves in britain include imperial domination of said people, the stealing of nations resources etc. Surely, these crimes are orders of magnitude greater than simple insurance fraud.

    Instead of interrogating these, it is always a season to berate Indians, or Arabs, or Muslims as less british than he seems to feel he is. What a c-hole is this ugly man from england.

    There are sound theoretical frameworks buttressed by praxis to explain the behaviours of modern day slaves. And not only within industrial psychology but a range of other disciplines.

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  • WW&C
    Was not Bizzy part of the 3S syndicate?

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  • @Wily Coyote. I find that in Barbados drivers are very courteous when one is at a zebra crossing. As soon as you put your foot down, both sides of traffic come to a complete stop. They do it for me all the time. I go home in winter when I am quite pale, so maybe they mistake me for a tourisse.

    I live in Ottawa East, a suburb. At the intersections where there were lots of accidents, the city removed the stop lights and installed roundabouts. The speed is 30km entering and driving in the round about. They had a campaign teaching us how to use these traffic calmers. We got pamphlets in the mail, there were infomercials on tv and the police was there for 4 weeks to direct people on the proper use. I just love the roundabouts, not as much waiting as at stop lights. Over here the pedestrian crossing is very near the roundabout exits and they have the right of way as always.

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  • @Pacha

    Why don’t you leave Hal alone. We all share perspectives from where we are perched.

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  • The idiot minister who approve the oblong against the protestations of the masses should have his pension docked as restitution for the attending liability.

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  • @ David
    Enuff also knows that there was no damn plans for the flyovers. …. no design details, no specific quotation…. it was just a loose arrangement, with open ended ‘agreements’ between The BLP government and 3S…. we all know how those end.

    @ Gabriel
    Bizzy said on VOB that he went to a certain minister’s office early one morning and talked him into the flyover deal. Apparently that was Bizzy’s idea of wuk fuh wuk.
    Bizzy already owned 2S (structural Systems) so naturally this one was called 3S. Like Cahill, the operation consisted of a shady office in some run-down building with nothing its name.

    It was just a scam in process…. Enuff has a way off supporting these scams that drain the treasury …with nothing to show in return.
    Fly-overs
    CSME
    Mia… 🙂

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Gabriel….I would not doubt it, but the primary dude was from UK….it’s around that time the culmination of scams started against the NIS pension funds, every 2 bit crook was being introduced to it, like the people to whom it belongs, have no say…….it was targeted from back then, the mid 2000s….until present.

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  • Did anyone noticed Pandor on the CBC News last week, when Michael Lashley was in Elizabeth Park beating his chest about the resurfacing of the road in that community? Pandor could be seen in the background, holding down feeling the surface of the “barber green” with his fingers.
    What was he testing , road hardness? Just goes to show that we, as jackasses are led by bigger jackasses.

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  • This use of NIS funds for highway flyovers,towers in Warrens and hotels should be forbidden by law.Just now pensions will be affected like a friend who says she is still awaiting her income tax refund for 2008 repeat 2008.These scams are enough to make people take the law into their hands as a form of restitution for all the underhand doings of these politicians. Perhaps the Quisling Boyce had a hand in that 3S arrangement and then ran to Thompson with it because he sat in the sanctum sanctorum when the idea was incubated with Bizzy and ‘the minister’.

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  • Gabriel,

    NIS is the last ATM in Barbados for the local establishment in the driver´s seat. Revenue – gone for debt service. I predict that not only the currency will crash very soon, but also NIS. Your recommendation for a ban to abuse the NIS is honourable, but there won´t be any money to spend in any case.

    After next election, the new government will act as some kind of insolvency liquidator. We also need some historians – to tell the next generation how it was before 2008 and why Barbados transformed into some Caribbean Mozambique during the Dark Age of Ignorance and Deceit.

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  • This is another call for politicians to listen to citizens who are concern about the mass dumping of toxic chemicals over this nation multiple times daily….

    Who has given permission to do this?
    Are you aware of its implications?
    Do you think that it will affect everyone else except you or your family and friends?.. think again.

    This has been ongoing for sometime and no one seems to care.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwHJs4GLQCRjanZXTUotV3oyd0E/view

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  • ET AL…

    This is another call for politicians to listen to citizens who are concern about the mass dumping of toxic chemicals over this nation multiple times daily….

    Who has given permission to do this?
    Are you aware of its implications?
    Do you think that it will affect everyone else except you or your family and friends?.. think again.

    This has been ongoing for sometime and no one seems to care.

    TODAY
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwHJs4GLQCRjanZXTUotV3oyd0E/view

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  • Is this some attempt to fish for personal data?

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  • Lets face it , most Barbadians drivers are taught to pass a driving test on a pre-determined route. Anything outside of this mandate is rocket science ,as far as they are concerned. Over the many years I have never heard a sensible announcement on radio or tv, instructing drivers how to correctly use roundabouts. Or for that matter our highways.
    But isn’t it strange that many of our people being transported in public service vehicles , are frequently injured due to senseless accidents, but we never see David Seale’s and COW William’s horses, traveling daily , in the back of horse boxes on their way to the Garrison, or a Polo Ground, suffering from injury due to the driver becoming involved in an accident.

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  • Wily,
    Road safety is not the same as priority.

    @ David,

    Thanks for defending me, but the man is like an itch. If you cannot challenge him with argument, then abuse him. Sadly for him, and his admirers, I can take it.

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  • Barbados Today page 16. BDLP….. This is how they roll !

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  • ndtewarie April 13, 2017 at 9:44 AM #
    POOR IS WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF HOPE

    Born and grew up as an orphan
    I knew I can and I know I can
    Then I got my long SC1 book list list
    But from my mom’s eyes I saw mist
    Then it hit home we were too poor
    To be chosen for the SC for sure
    I never had anything nice so what
    Back to school and swung the bat
    I had to do better, I was poor but bright
    Topped my class studying without light
    I passed all my exams even the PTA2 one
    I breathed a sigh of relief now its all done
    Got a break as a Pupil Teacher only part time
    But slipped back right into the religious slime
    They won’t hire me because I wasn’t a Christian3
    I was an outcast again ‘cause Hindi was my bastion
    I once thought of using the rope
    But I bid my time, never lost hope
    Then my Uncle from another county
    Send for me after hearing my story
    And I got a telegram one Friday afternoon
    To go to Anna Regina to Teach,.. too soon
    No clothes so I went to my Uncle with much hurt
    Went to Uncle Asraf and bought me $26.81 worth
    A big grip, raw cloth, shirts, a tie, comb and Brilliantine
    Left home going 200 miles away scary thoughts all mine
    Yes I got a break and gave thanks to the one Above
    I never lost hope for in my heart there was much love.

    NB. PTA= PUPIL TEACHERS APPOINTMENT; IN GUYANA, THE SCHOOLS WERE CONTROLLED BY THE CHURCH AND HINDUS WERE BARRED .

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  • More road traffic accidents. Barbados is in chaos. These self-professed educated people cannot even control road safety. This is our biggest social problem and the prime minister and his Cabinet remain silent about it. The man is a buffoon.

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  • @ Hal
    This is just the tip of the iceberg.
    The PM and his collection of clowns are clueless…..but then again, so are you.

    Barbados is laced with narrow, winding roads and jam-packed with idiot drivers – whose main pastime is drinking and liming. They all now have access to high-powered, power-assisted, automatic vehicles – since Arthur and Sir Cave told them that success means having a paper from Cave Hill and two cars in the garage.

    Add to this a general lack of sidewalks, REALLY stupid, impatient, careless pedestrians walking /riding carelessly – dressed in dark clothing at night,…then add the thousands of children sky-larking on the roads morning and evening….
    Seriously – what do you expect?

    Previously, a divine presence seemed to have kept us in some level of check… you may want to call it ‘luck’….But ever since we have clearly embraced evil as a NATIONAL policy – as exemplified by such government sanctioned issues as:
    ..CLICO
    ..CAHILL
    ..Four Seasons
    ..The Speaker of the House mugging clients and going unpunished
    ..The minister’s $4M mother
    ..Inviting the regions low-life entertainers here during lent
    ..The unresolved $3.3M diversion of funds
    ..The multiple scams with baloney
    ..the Auditor General’s ongoing litany of unpunished thievery and mismanagement

    ….we would be FOOLS to expect that any divine interests would continue to stick around trying to protect us from our brass bowl selves.
    …and PARTICULARLY after Froon and the clowns took the decision to build an alter on the Garrison in honour of their newly adopted boss…. and featuring his pitchfork dominating the Garrison savannah…after being unable to complete ANYTHING else of value in 9 years.

    Hal…If these people don’t understand decimals, cannot multiply, cannot communicate simple issues …. how the hell would you expect them to unravel a complex matter such as this one….?

    Bushie has been trying to explain the SERIOUS DANGERS of allowing EVIL to take root….. but the jackasses have only been focused on easy access to dollars…..
    Steupsss…
    We ain’t seen nothing yet….!!!

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  • This is where the vision rises to the fore.

    Our narrow, winding roads do not fit with driving fast with these high powered vehicles.

    Our unplanned location of schools and work sites do not fit well with effcient traffic flows on a small island with a high number of vehicles.

    Our small island does not fit well with with the large transport Board buses deployed.

    So where is the vision Hal? Bushie?

    Feel free to add to the list..

    By the way, note the recently paved strech at Halls Road has been dug up by a utility already. The constant flow of traffic and the soon to come downpour will speed up a return to the status quo.

    #pleasehearourprayer

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  • David,
    One car per household, better public transport system and dedicated traffic controls. Also pass the cost of road traffic accidents on to insurance companies, the hospital and ambulance service should do the same, magistrates should suspend drivers’ licenses and make passing the test more difficult.

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  • The Chicken&Egg conundrum….

    Limit the imports of vehicles equals a reduction in tax revenue for BRA that would have to be replaced……with what??

    The merchant class with their imports provides a steady easy stream of revenue for succesive lazy govts who refuse to do the hard work of shifting the economy from imports to sustainability and exports.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Ya gotta star somewhere, when the ministers get off their uppity soap boxes and realize that there is only 10 US dollars left in reserves, they will have to haul ass.

    Hal…making the issuance of driver’s licenses more difficult. …does not stop careless driving or drunk driving, or reckles driving or uncouth drivers…enforcing the road traffic laws currently available, introducing breathalyzers and harsher penalties for reckless driving will…

    ……all the problems on the island stems from both government’s neglect and refusal to enforce existing rules and regulations, the minister’s propensity to punish anyone who tries to enforce existing laws and regulation……..and giving special treatment to those connected to them…who break those laws…..eg….Dumbville Inniss was highly annoyed that his wife was stopped for a traffic infraction by a police officer doing his job..that he called the police station to make a big stink and cause trouble for the officer just doing is job..

    …..just saying cause ah know with you everything has to be spelled out.

    You cannot keep doing the same stupid things for 50 years and expect different results.

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  • Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Ya gotta start somewhere….

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  • @David at 8:03 AM…The issues of our road management are well ventilated so nothing to add there but I was taken with your remark that “Our unplanned location of schools and work sites do not fit well with effcient traffic flows on a small island with a high number of vehicles.”

    I actually was generally ‘impressed’ with the location of schools built over the last many years (QC, a great example)…particularly when one considers that said locations – of primary schools – are often a function of the growth in the surrounding areas.

    But mine has really been a cursory examination.

    What are the dynamics that led to your remark?

    Work sites are a different matter completely as the inputs there go in reverse: government can create any suitable work site (depending on industry) and develop the infrastructure (transport etc) to support that site.

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  • @Dee Word

    Should the location of schools be linked to zoning if your observation is accurate?

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  • During the economic crisis in the early 1980’s , Tom Adams ,then Prime Minister, restricted the import of cars/vehicles above I think, BDS.$10,000. This was the gate way in making one man very rich .

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  • We saw the rise of the Shodas, CXGS and Suzukis.

    @Vincent

    Where is the logic and practicality of proposing a scheme to circumvent government?

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  • David

    Who has a scheme to circumvent govt?

    Govt…any which one….has to start restructuring our economy and infrastructure,this country cannot be allowed to free fall for much longer.

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