David Comissiong’s Release – FINAL Refutation of HAL GOLLOP’s Absurdity
Submitted by David Comissiong
David Comissiong – Citizen Advocate
Hal Gollop, Attorney-at-Law
Dear Members of the Media,
I do not possess the luxury of time to be constantly used in responding to Hal Gollop’s absurd claim that the Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015 were only an “idea” of the DLP Administration, and did not actually exist. I have therefore attached the following documents hereto:-
- Several pages of the actual text of the Regulations as made by Freundel Stuart on 17th April 2015 and published in the Official Gazette of 23rd April 2015
- The first page of the Official Gazette of 23rd April 2015. Please see the Contents section
- The text of the Barbados Government Information Service Release of 15th February 2016 announcing the decision and directive stipulating the fingerprinting of persons leaving and entering Barbados. Please see the fourth paragraph of the text of the Release which indicates that these measures “WERE MANDATORY UNDER THE IMMIGRATION (BIOMETRICS) REGULATIONS 2015”.
I would be grateful if you would publish these documents in order to safeguard the Barbadian public from being misled by Mr Gollop’s un-informed and misleading comments.
Related Documents:
- David Andre Comissiong v Freundel Stuart, Adriel Brathwaite and Wayne Marshall
- Immigration (Biometrics) Regulations 2015
Barbados Underground 
Gollop was on the talk show today suggesting that the matter was incorrectly gazetted.
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Don’t worry Comissiong..we got your back. We know that Gollop is trying for damage control, lies on top of lies to cover lies and mislead the voters, elections is around the corner and he is not afraid he wakes up tomorrow morning with no tongue from lying.
Even this most humble bajan knows they are lying and must be punished for being snakes in the grass. Soon come.
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Does ANYBODY from the press EVER intend to ask Gollop what the hell he knows about the kidnap and murder of a Mrs Smith? …. a woman whose home HE visited in questionable circumstances just prior to her disappearance….????
How the hell does he manage to have a ‘story’ for every other shiite – from fired NCC workers to Froon’s amateurish law-making …… But can’t say a pang about his visit with Mrs Smith?
On the matter of David Come-and-sing-a-song’s issue….. Gollop’s story seems to be ..that we should ignore the idiot Froon, …who does not know the difference between a ‘bad idea’ and a gazetted Law.
Basically Gollop is arguing that Comissiong should have known better than to take the Prime Minister seriously ..when he stood up in Parliament and announced that they were bringing this ‘Law’ on finger-printing….
WAIT BOZIE …. Bushie thought that Gollop was Froon’s friend….!!??
…but perhaps Gollop is now pissed off too…
After all, Froon ALSO said that CAHILL had not reached his desk…
…He said that The NCC would be fast-tracked…
…He said free UWI education would NOT be touched…
YOU!!! Come to think of it, …what exactly led Comissiong to think the man was serious this time about fingerprinting…?
LOL…
Oh Shoiite!!!
Ha ha ha
Wuhloss!!!
We DEAD!!
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There s a provision in the gazetted “mistake” for facial image …read….recocgnition, as well, but they chose fingerprinting which could give DNA samples. Can’t trust them get them gone.
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@David, so is this an additional ‘excuse’ to his earlier claim that it was ‘not a law’ !
There is one thing that is true of politicians, their lawyers and related advisers the world over: they lie brazenly.
The details from the FBI today related that Sec Clinton clearly is an absolute, wicked liar.
The only reason that anyone should vote her as President is because the other candidate is even more of a pathological liar than she is.
The prevarication contrast between Gollop and Stuart or rather Stuart and Mottley is not as clear (at least to me). Although Mottley often seemed worst the recent revelations paint Stuart as an extremely ‘competent’ liar….much better than often realized.
The joys of politics.
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@Dee Word
Would it not have been more constructive if VOB and other media outlets searched out independent legal commentary?
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All this talk about fingerprints and today’s newspaper article informs that we will be protected by cameras on Spring Garden and elsewhere. Now tell me, will we be living in a fools paradise when we believe that the cameras are working? If this government is unable to upkeep a D9 tractor, busses, a hospital, a few ambulances and some sanitation trucks, why should we place our faith in the upkeep of security cameras? They can’t even keep the cameras at the Transport Authority working for an extended period and now want to fingerprint travelers and citizens. Gimme’ a brake.
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We are at a loss as well.
Is it possible that Hal Gollop has dementia or ‘early’ on set Alzheimer’s?
Is he compus mentis?
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I cannot wait for the day when we no longer have to hear from educated asses like Hal Gollop.
I thought that he did Fumble no favours today.
He inexplicitly said that Fumble did not know what he was doing when he signed the amendment. I thought that as soon as an amendment is gazetted it becomes the law of the land?
I heard Fumble said after the Opposition raised this matter, Dale Marshall spoke in the House and the BLP dealt with it at the Baxters Road meeting…….when they said that they were going to file this case against the finger printing…….he said that they can talk all they want, the finger printing will go on because Barbados’ national security was at stake.
What I would like to ask the PM one question though……….if he is so concerned with national security, how would he get the finger prints of the Barbadians who do not travel? Are the people who travel the ones who are the security risks?
Ignorant decision just like every other decsion these morons make!
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@ FearPlay
What cameras on what highway what? …
Fuh show!!
Wuh they can’t even get the damn street lights to burn…
You hear what Gollop said….? The DLP is just about meaningless shiite talk… except of course when it comes to moving our money into Bizzy / Maloney’s hands… then they get VERY creative with things like ‘Shiite taxes’ and CAHILL…
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David Comissiong
There is a saying: When you argue with a fool, he is doing the same thing. So David, stop arguing with Gollop otherwise people would mistake you for a fool.
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@FearPlay at 9:24 PM # Some years ago I knew a few people who were ‘pimping’ around to win one of those ‘big brother’ security cam projects. You can talk about whether they work or not but if the gov’t is operating true to form then that is a tidy sum of hardware (high end cameras with night vision optics and the works) and a robust software package to manage it.
A nice ‘small’ contract (expandable likely) to have no doubt!
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Pacha.. it’s Gollop’s numerous compus crimes returning to haunt him.
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But wait…….is Fumble off his medication?
The man told a bold faced lie on DLPTV tonight ……….the man said in Guyana that unemployment is down to 9% and that jobs are coming back.
Fumble, where? In Barbados? You have been travelling overseas too much….you got to be mad. Just last month in the CBB report, the governor said that unemployment was 11% (which is another big lie……..unemployment has to be over 20%), so how could it drop by 2% in 30 days? You ever see lies?
I would ike to know where are the jobs as I know a lot of people whose children have finished UWI, many are out of work, some have finished medical school and cannot get into the internship program, some have had to go overseas. These lies do nothing for these young people. I know of families where no one is working. Just last week a neighbour who is a single parent was made redundant and the sad thing is that her eldest daughter was also made redundant last year……so no one in that family is working now.
And the economy is turning around and jobs are returning? Give me a break from your lies!
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Woop woop the unemployment rate drops into single digits don’t remember that happening since Owen Arthur’s halcyon days. News to be thankful for if you want to see Barbados back to work and you are a patriot.
The yard fowls and paling cocks will bawl the Statistical Service numbers are incorrect Sinclair and Froon cook the books. Mind you the same Statistical Service was held up as an oasis of integrity when Arthur’s mantra was jobs jobs jobs.
Froon you accepted mission impossible if you aim to satisfy the yard fowl sector. Heart warming news for families, the economy and society now less people are unemployed. Big up to citizens and residents who make the effort to build Bimshire. Upwards and onwards.
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FOR THE FIRST quarter (January to March) 2016, unemployment stood at 9.3 per cent.
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/82914/unemployment-93-cent-quarter#sthash.pTGGBKsU.dpuf
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Dear David Commissiong: We are with you on this one.
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I heard Gollop on VOB today and I began to wonder if I had taken a psychoactive substance.
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I glean from Gollop’s remarks to his former BLP colleague Glyne Murray(incidentally,Murray,if it is one thing you cannot do is speak coherently.I cannot understand what you are saying mister man.You are stammering and talking 90 miles an hour,obviously you are untrained in radio)I glean from Gollop’s remarks that he would do a far better job for Froon as the AG.Froon would then get the advice which Braffit is withholding from him and it is making Froon look very bad,not to mention Braffit who is an unknown in Barbados prior to the appointment in the AG position.
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I don’t believe BU contributors are actually taking Hal Gollop seriously. This man has very little credibility and this characteristic came to fore when he was representing Leroy Parris, insisting the “laundered” $3.333M was actually a GRATUITY PAYMENT due to Parris, while IGNORING the METHOD by which the money was obtained.
Gollop proved this again in March 2016 when, as Chairman of the ERT, and BEFORE GIVING a VERDICT in the former NCC employees’ hearing, he told the public government DOES NOT have any MONEY to re-engage those former employees.
I am not too intelligent, so I would have to assume that, taking the fact that Gollop said the government has no money to re-employ the former employees, how could he RULE in THEIR FAVOUR.
As chairman of the ERT, would Gollop’s statement prejudiced their case, could his actions be deemed as a breach of trust or did he imply a bias against those retrenched workers?
And now Gollop re-appears from the “wood-work” to talk shiite in an effort to defend his personal mate, Freundel Stuart.
Hal Gollop deserves a space in BU’s “Lawyers in the News” blog.
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Hal Gollop’s character is already known. He is the play thing and stand in the gap of lies man for two very wicked political administrations. What concerns me and should all of you, is that we have a very dishonest, immoral and bold face liar of a Prime Minister parading himself in all his vain–disrespect thinking that he is dealing, still, with a bunch of backward shites name foolish Barbadians. That is what troubles me the most. The Prine Minister of Barbados is a silent cess pool of lies, manipulation, and bold face deceit.
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Wuhlaus! Muh belly! Bushie, are you going to kill me before they do? Well, at least I will go laughing!
I am imagining you and Gollop in wigs and robes fighting a case in the law courts. That would be one for Laugh it off!
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Mr. Commissiong,
Why are you fighting a man who is knocked out on the floor? We know he is punch drunk and talking idle. Go to your corner and wait like a good fighter until the count is over!
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I typed here years ago that Gollop is Fumble’s only friend and stalwart lackie.
He is also complicit.
It doesn’t help Fumble’s case that Gollop is as shit a lawyer as he is.
There will be no economic, moral or cabinet credibility recovery under Fumble’s Fools.
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Caswell Franklyn July 5, 2016 at 9:59 PM #
David Comissiong
There is a saying: When you argue with a fool, he is doing the same thing.
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
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On Q100FM Maureen Holder says”l hope that Hal Gollop would call and give us clarification” and like clockwork he was there. On VOB Glyne Murray goes “thanks for calling” only to be corrected “I didn’t call you called me”. My point is this. Something political? We gotta hear from Harold Hoyte and or Peter Wickham. Legal matters? Bet cha life the esteemed Hal Gollop must be consulted. The shit files bout here because we permit the lazy ass journalistic fraternity to condition our minds as to what qualifies as as independent and influential opinion. Were we not once bombarded with the impartial economic reports of Ryan Straughn almost daily? Whenever we revamp the broken system I hope we don’t forget the fourth estate.
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Look at the captioned photo above and think on this -“Men in suits look really successful…..until you realize that they work for men in t-shirts and jeans”.
A Chief Justice with an unimpressive legal history, an Attorney General with an unknown legal background and a Prime Minister with a legal background too insignificant to mention and we were expecting what????
Is there any wonder why the holder of the office of PM treats the people of this country with such scant respect and disdain? He landed in a job he was ill prepared for, he suffered horribly through a part term only to be thrust back into a position that he did not want, did not expect, did not deserve and was incapable of managing, far less mastering. I think we can all remember the low level of enthusiasm displayed after midnight on the fateful morning when the results were announced. So sure was he that sensible people would not return to power, this cancer masquerading as a government, that he was unprepared to speak with purpose or meaning. They did not have a plan on how to manage the country before elections and expecting not to be re-elected, never took the time to have one going forward.
What we are experiencing is the head master punishing the pupils for being stupid! Some (approx 50%) of the population made a horrible mistake and the sooner they are willing to take ownership of their misjudgment and correct it the better. A horrible mistake, yes but they thought they were doing the right thing for the country at the time. Hindsight is 20/20 vision.
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Fearplay…everytime I see that photo with the two sickly looking Adriel and Fruendel all dressed up in monkey suits with nowhere to go cause they are not intelligent enough…I go off, now they have added the lying walking dead Hal Gollop, who is not fit to be presented publicly, to the equation…and I am fit to be tied.
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@ Prodigal Son
You said and I quote “What I would like to ask the PM one question though……….if he is so concerned with national security, how would he get the finger prints of the Barbadians who do not travel?
“Are the people who travel the ones who are the security risks?”
“Ignorant decision just like every other decision these morons make!”
There is an old statement about “he who pays the piper calls the tune” and what is being practiced here is a sophisticated exercise in bobo, graft, bribe, whatever you want to call it.
For those people who understand how the country’s budget operates and which ministry and MINISTER gets the money to dole out, the mystery of “how would he get the fingerprints of Barbadians who do not travel?” is solved in a hurry.
It made sense for this to have been a National ID project to secure ALL of the biometric data BUT SUCH would have enriched that specific ministry/Minister greatly.
Once commenced in the Office of the PM, under his ministerial chapeau of National Security, it falls to his ministry where the purse is allocated, where the bilateral aid funding will be provided and to whom the responsibility of doling out $$ lies
Why you think is the basis of the rumour? that the LoE wants have the Ministry of Finance under her portfolio, in addition to that of National Security?
With regard to the second part of your question about the people who travel being part of the security risk you would have to refer to Humpty Dumpty Greenidge on that one, cause certainly it has been such a risk that the Government of the United States, through this fingerprinting program, put its foot down and wants the falsification/fabrication of identities to stop
And finally De ole man would only say that you should now realise that, given where the $$ was and is going to be flowing, Fumbles’ decision and that endorsed by Nitwit Brafs, is not so moronic after all.
Where else would they be able to secure graft and bribes and kickbacks? Other than sharing de moola with the Guyanese fella when dem releasing murder accused pun bail!!
I hope that that doan “hit you fuh six, like it hit Fumbles!!!
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Why is it that when there is an argument of disagreement the Blp operatives always arguments hinges on character attacks. the blp operatives ought to look among their household including party and leader and find if their is one among them that9 is without blemish
Two legal scholars disagreeing is nothing new in the legal farternity this is not the first nor would it be the last. Points given on both sides by the lawyers are valid .Hal argument that the judges ruling is not on Law is justifiable and true
All this long talk and attacks are ridiculous political grandstanding.
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Sorry ac, our bad. You are correct. Everything is good. Country good. Party good. We never had it so good. Thanks for reminding us to be grateful that we have such a competent team managing our affairs. Carry on smartly, nothing to see here.
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ACs…yall pimps. I know Comissiong is a legal scholar doing his civic duty, putting country and citizens safety and well being first and foremost….along with the other attorneys who really care…taxpayer funded education now working for the people…so who is the other one….scholar.
I hear Gollop making noise and telling lies…that does not a legal scholar make.
The government can learn a thing or two from these great attorneys who challenged government in their lies and deceit to the citizens,,, wint you say.
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@Fear play
Indeed you are sorry that after seven years barbados has not fell off the cliff off that much talk about doom and gloom cliff that much i do believe
Now all that is left for you and other blp operatives to drag around in the mud are names which makes Maloney and Gallop the new whipping boys and daily side shows
What happen to all the gusto which was heaped on govt about the defecit. Looks like the wind has knocked them sails to the ground and replaced by Gallop and Maloney
I will bet that come 2018 the blp would have outspaced themselves gobbling up any and every mundane issue except those issues that are importance to goverance
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What governance AC?
This country has been running on auto-pilot for seven years without a captain at the helm.
Your little coup to remove the planning ministry from Fumble is the first real leadership demonstrated by the Cabinet of Barbados in seven years and it was rebels who led the way. Now the idiot can hide from reality under his desk until podium time without affecting Barbados’ progress? You wish!
Revolution? Not in Barbados. Easier for us to sit it out.
There will be no economic recovery under Fumble’s Fools.
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The AC pimps are sounding less and less sure of themselves, the “stoopid” posters must be working, another year and a half of that and they may be even too scared to tell anymore lies.
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@ FearPlay July 6, 2016 at 7:02 AM #
“Is there any wonder why the holder of the office of PM treats the people of this country with such scant respect and disdain? He landed in a job he was ill prepared for, he suffered horribly through a part term only to be thrust back into a position that he did not want, did not expect, did not deserve and was incapable of managing, far less mastering. I think we can all remember the low level of enthusiasm displayed after midnight on the fateful morning when the results were announced. So sure was he that sensible people would not return to power, this cancer masquerading as a government, that he was unprepared to speak with purpose or meaning. They did not have a plan on how to manage the country before elections and expecting not to be re-elected, never took the time to have one going forward”.
……………………………………………
Truer words have never been written! Well spoken!
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Well Well,
…”they chose fingerprinting which could give DNA samples….
How??Do you know the method?
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i remember issues like the polyclinic and Clico all hot button issues that were safe and sure bets to give the country back to the Blp them too have fell on the wayside no matter how many slings and arrows were thrown in the backside of govt none never seem to stick
Then along came the drawn out long speeches by barbados so called economist about the high deficit seems like no one cares as the deficit has trickled to an almost crawl , So what we have now is no more long talk about the defect , but recent shocks and awe with actual deaths of people falling dead in the street Oh NO! a new and different strategy ME style strategize by a bunch of goof ball to create more fear and doom issuing loaded statement of the lead in water system Oh no Unbelivable but true what a bunch of a.ss hole
Makes me wonder what next does the BLP operatives having hiding in their doom and Gloom broom closet… Even Mia seems have given pause and opened a new page to re-energize and revitalize the lost souls of The Covenant of Hope
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Alvin…you have a big able computer in front if you and I am not speaking about ink printing…that is now archaic, at least in modern societies, I cant tell the ladt time I have seen fingerprinting using ink….so go do some damn research….keep yaself gainfully occupied.
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ACs…yall are not going back in that parliament as leaders in 2018, get used to it, nothing you say will change that…nothing.
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Thos is what happens when human rights have been eroded, killing of a black man by an nofficer on administrative leave despite the black man having a licensed gun.
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http://ow.ly/vHKF3020R0C
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NRA defends to the hilt an American’s right to “bare” arms…..but it’s not for blacks,they still have no rights in the USA.A black man is stopped.He plays it safe by telling the already frightened cop that he has a licensed firearm.Who tell him say that…..4 bullets in his torso.Dead one time…for trying to be honest.
What blacks in the US must realize is that they generate a naked fear among other segments of the population,and they should use that fear to effect change for their betterment and an almost zealous respect for their wellbeing.
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Gabriel July 7, 2016 at 12:07 PM #
NRA defends to the hilt an American’s right to “bare” arms…..but it’s not for blacks,they still have no rights in the USA.A black man is stopped.He plays it safe by telling the already frightened cop that he has a licensed firearm.Who tell him say that…..4 bullets in his torso.Dead one time…for trying to be honest.
What blacks in the US must realize is that they generate a naked fear among other segments of the population,and they should use that fear to effect change for their betterment and an almost zealous respect for their wellbeing.
First rule of living in the USA: when a cop stops you for any reason, don’t reach for anything, don’t say anything until instructed to do so.
I appreciate that everyone feels outrage and the need to jump on the hearsay bandwagon. Don’t.
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Gabriel…first of all that cop was on administrative leave…as told by his superiors, he was not supposed to be stopping anyone..leave is leave normally their weapons are taken away from them when they go on leave…we will hear the rest on that later.
In this instance the black dude had a right to be armed, the police could be lying about telling him dont move, in this instance he should not have been engaging with this man about a busted tail light at all….that is what the most vile of the cops in the US do…they lie.
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The police cant tell lies and make a criminal out of this one…this is much different.
He told the police he had a licensed gun, the police told him get his wallet out and he shot him when he reached for it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/minn-man-killed-police-sweet-gentle-spirit-article-1.2702552
http://ow.ly/VlTZ3021zp0
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@Frustrated businessman
Never better advice has been given to Blacks when confronted by White policemen in the USA.
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David July 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM #
@Frustrated businessman
Never better advice has been given to Blacks when confronted by White policemen in the USA.
Correction: anyone travelling in the USA but especially if black, indian, hispanic or speakers of foreign languages or with foreign accents.
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LOL @ David
What ‘advice’ is that?
Be humble… prostrate yourself like a pet dog… and do whatever the racist albino with a gun says…?
WHY? …because a live dog is better that a dead man? Says who? …. to live another day to be treated like scum just for living…?
…It is OK for Frustrated B to spout that shiite…. they will treat HIM with all due respect.
The problem with Blacks in the USA, is that there are too many damn MLKs ..and too few Malcolm Xs.
Exactly when do you put your damn foot down and say ‘enough is enough!!’ ?
Lotta shiite!!
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@Bush Tea
Spout your ish if you want but that shit is institutionalized in the USA and it will not change any time soon. Be a martyr if that is your death wish.
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Frustrated
You know every man jack in USA knows that.But only whites are given the benefit of the doubt.Blacks know when a white cop stop you,you automatically give up your rights to life.Fact,fact,fact.
One day every black man will throw white man thinking and reasoning to the wind like Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X did.Only then will this murdering of blacks come to a stop.
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Well Well,
My question referred “specifically” to your claim of obtaining the DNA from the fingerprint. Of course I know about the aBiometrics, and I also know about obtaining DNA from tissues, fluids etc. You do not know and that is why I asked that question deliberately, because as usual you are misleading people and giving faLSE INFORMATION. BIOMETRICS DOES NOT USE INK TO OBTAIN FINGERPRINTS.
Gabriel, Neither Muhammad Ali, nor Malcolm X “throw white man thinking and reasoning to the wind. ” They were militant but they were also NOT stupid. Malcolm X was not killed by white people but by his own Black Muslim brothers. They were the stupid ones. Neither Martin Luther King nor Barack Obama were stupid.They used logic, progressive thinking and “thinking to reach their objectives. A white man killed both Jack Kennedy and Martin Luther King. A white man shot Ronald Reagan, and a stupid multimillionaire like Donald Trump has the support of millions of Americans Black and white in agreement with his diatribe. That is one sick society. And
england is not far behind. Read the report on Tony Blair’s support for the American incursion into Iraq.
Explain.
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Does @ac mean Alvin Cummins one would logically conclude as both spew the same unintellectual filth. When you look at what houses Hal Gollop’s brain matter one can only conclude that nothing so ugly can contain anything worth while. He surely seems not to have anything more than the matter in it. Like the Attorney General two excuses for QC’s. When you think of the last set of them you can conclude safely they gone to the dogs. They can give dumb ass Michel Lashley one before they go since if they gave to Hal Gollop and the Theifer of the house any jackass can carry that cart..
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@David, you are right of course that BushTea is talking ‘ish’ on this matter of prostrating oneself to the altar of police supremacy…but he KNOWS that.
To the other point @Gabriel re “One day every black man will throw white man thinking and reasoning to the wind like Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X did.Only then will this murdering of blacks come to a stop.”
That too is dangerous ‘ish’ on the reverse of the same coin. Like Bushie is masculine and powerful in verse. But it fundamentally speaks to war,…race war.
I like everyone else wish I had answers but as a Black man (who is not small) I have had cops respond to simple queries as if I were just out of jail for rape and murder.
But as long as you are not white then you are supposedly a piece of ‘ish’ to be cleaned off the boot.
There is definitely a war out there and a Black president seems to have caused an escalation (seems too, no stats reviewed). But even on that anecdotal perspective if his peaceful elevation pissed off the white establishment so much then how can we change to a better place by waging a ‘by any means necessary’ forceful offensive or defensive, really.
In blunt terms we effing bad-word screwed.
So we must teach our children to be humble to cops so they live; so that their kids can grow up to be President or Joint Chief of Staff, US Armed Forces. Then he (we) can expel our anger on some other effing JAs. Real frigging despicable and sad, of course.
But any other war started by a Black man in the US will be a death sentence for all de rest of we.
Incidentally, a comparison of sorts to the police deaths in Minneapolis and Louisiana to a case in a place called Crockett, Texas back in March.
Two suspects take cops on a long car chase and fire multiple shotgun blasts at the officers. They shoot two of the cops in the process. This guy and gal happened to be WHITE , though…shooting at WHITE officers. So after a crash here is the scene…
—“The male driver fled on foot and officers chased him on foot and were able to catch up to him. He did not follow officer’s commands and resisted officers and [an] officer deployed his Taser on the male subject. The male suspect continued to resist and officers were able to get him handcuffed after a brief struggle.”—
Where did that excellent restraint and training come from so perfectly?
In Minneapolis Phlando Castile does as commanded and is killed. At least we can be consoled that his fiancee Diamond Reynolds was not manhandled or shot for using her phone to ‘interfere’ with the ‘lawful’ activity of a ‘peace’ officer.
Oh John KIng where are you?: “How many more must die”.
There is definitely a war: The NRA are arming us so that the police can kill us and Trump is going to make it all so effing great again!
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White man thinking and reasoning:…..500 years of down pressing,hating,stripping of dignity,treating as chattel,abusing,withholding their worth,taking their labour and expertise as a given not worthy of valuation,depriving them of their history and belief systems,brainwashing them to believe they are lazy and clueless,only fit to be treated like beasts of burden and objects of pleasure……..when the black stop allowing these stereotypes to flourish as they do now,and take back their pride and dignity,by force if necessary,demand respect if necessary,only then will the madness of white destruction of black stop.Pray that blacks don’t turn the tables and reverse roles.
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Alvin…I made a comment about fingerprinting and DNA..I did not mislead anyone, if you cant find the information, just say so…your little rant means nothing to me…I definitely will not indulge you in your own ignorance…figure it out on your own.
You want misleading…the Cahill scam, with you as head pimp and instigator was misleading.
Violating people’s constitutional rights is misleading.
I have nothing to explain to you, why don’t you ask the international authorities.
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Bajan Boy…Thiefer of the house…I like that one…lol
Alvin Cummins is an asswipe who cannot be trusted to even perform that function.
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@Well Well & Consequences July 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM “that is what the most vile of the cops in the US do.”
There are some U.S. cops that are not vile?
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Dear Simple…I did not say all were vile. .a female cop from Cleveland posted a video about the Louisiana shooting and she said she watched the video numerous times to see where the dead dude had done anything wrong and she could not find anything…she said it was a clear case of coldblooded murder…so yes, we all know that not all cops are drug dealers, wife beaters bribetakers and coldblooded murderers…but many are..
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http://ow.ly/dskY3022jL4
This is how yiu stand up against wrongdoing and murder.
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http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/07/08/free-lord-evil/
Adriel Brathwaite was a mediocre practicing attorney, just like Fruendel, he has become a useless attorney general.
The ministers of government should take courses in public relations and their job description…before being elected, look at what Nitwit Adriel could cause because he does know what his job entails.
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Vote with your feet brethren. Add USA to the long list of places you don’t go like Syria, most of Africa, anywhere AK47s are sold on the street and water is brown.
But Baje can’t do that. We love the bi-annual trips to NY and Miami to buy worthless Chinese shite and come home from with a Yankee accent.
Same old Bajan double standard. Piss and moan about how shit USA is but continue to support them.
There will be no economic recovery as long as the Bajan sheeple are stupid.
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@ Frustrated B
Hear! hear!
100%
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Will Barbados be issuing a travel advisory to its citizens making them aware that it may be safer to participate in fore-morning jam right here, rather than to travel to the USA? If the mighty American State Department can warn its citizens about us and how dangerous it is to visit this country, it only goes to reason that we should be doing the same. Fear is Fear.
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@ FearPlay
THat would be only fair but I fear that we Bajans fear the United States of Murica too much to bite the hand that feedeth us arsenic.
@ DAVID COMISSIONG
I had posted this in another of your articles on this Immigration matter but have copied it here with a hope that you see it and that it move you to some consideration. I will shorten this one.
Your social activism has, after many years, started to pay off. You are not there as yet though David, not by a long shot.
A few suggestions from the ole man. You need to leverage this as one who would champion of the Po (Black?) Man, a term not used in a derogatory way, but you should leverage your “currency” David.
There is only one of you, with finite resources, so you have to choose your battles wisely, choose battles which you will win and get maximum “currency” from the People on.
I do not see you as a “political candidate” per se cause “bajans got this thing gainst people with “your look” David, they let through a woman, Suckoo, because of her campaign manager etc. but it is different with males, Maloney nor nun uh de rest, cant run in Barbados, Abed jet lick-up Duguid doctor ting is whu bring he through.
What you can change, and have changed, is what people see you to be, in your wiser years, articulate and capable of delivering something for the disenfranchised.
Build on this success. Create a Social Action Website/Blog that is solely formed to advocate and promote Justice – Justice for All.com where you (and your team?) champion the rights of the underdog.
Things like the cases your chambers won where you championed the underdog while you cant advertise, you can so orient these matters so that they highlight said matters.
Wunna fellows cant advertise but a website can be so constructed so that it does not advertise but it advertises.
In the background form an informal team of similar minded activists as you seem to have done with Eddie (aspirant to the BLP P.M position)
Let Justice for all “Seek out the dispossessed”, “it” can more easily go to a Felicia Holder and say to her, the entity Justice for all wishes to advocate on your matter against Mark Baloney re civil litigation and wrongful death and it can secure the “necessary resources” to do x, y or z.
Of course every lay chamber in Barbados going run to set up a CBO with a website David, to bypass the advertising constraint that the legal professions seems to be faced with but yours alone has the landmark success with the Immigration Matter.
Interactive blogs are the way to go. Interactivity in GUI speak is (a) who are you (b) what is yor matter (c) what has happened so far (d) what docs do you have (e) and a rating per their success quotient by say, a retired judge who is not similarly bound as you are (and a statement of disclaimer per his opinion)
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO LEVERAGE YOUR “SOCIAL CURRENCY” I suggested a web instance for the submission of matters against LIME or FLOW.
David there are virtually thousands of people in Barbados who have a mater agains LIME/FLOW that needs representation. I am not a lawyer but i say Tariq Khan bring nuf CLICO policy holders together under the guise of helping them. So my layperson’s understanding is that wunna can “enjoin” multiple claimants under one and bring a matter to court.
A LIME matter and an Abijah Holder matter would endear you to a constituency bigger than all ot the other political candidates and make you “king maker”
Like is say choose well. My hear cries for Abijah, Luke, Jahan and Shamar now statistics never to be seen again
Let it be that your life is one memoire and testimony that you were here and did not come to rest outside the walls in clear view of the HC Bell Tower in Crumpton Street still spellbound by that bell that summoned you to class like a death knoll.
I dun wid dat
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Fearplay…the US is very, very dangerous and volatile right now, especially for black people, but you know others will get caught in a crossfire. There should be warnings to people who think they must go to the US…that they do so at their own risk..the US dont miss a beat to do that for other countries.
Until Congress and their legislators put laws in place that prevents the police practicing their extrajudicial killing of black preople..which prompts protests…which as we see can prompts more violence where innocent people can be hurt or killed….the US is not a safe place.
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http://ow.ly/mKeF3024c1r
America’s racist creation, now their uncontrollable disaster.
http://ow.ly/faJu3024csS
And of course they had to bar Donald Trump from making a really bad situation more volatile ×10…which they coukd also bar Fox News, anither bunch of scum.
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http://ow.ly/gfYT3024fsA
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I have NEVER visited the US of A because I have no desire for Chinese trinkets. I have always laughed at these annual status required trips to the land where the streets are paved with gold and stained with the blood of black men. I could easily have opted for a British passport and bypassed the humiliating US Embassy experience but I refuse to hold any other passport but Barbadian. I have long been showing my son what happens to black men in the US of A so he will stay to hell out of that God awful country which holds itself up as the moral authority of the world.
Some people here are suggesting that a black man should keep his hands up until told to do otherwise. How did you miss where the girlfriend said that he was asked for his license and registration? If you don’t comply you’re dead and if you comply you’re dead. Why don’t you see that? Why?
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“Some people here are suggesting that a black man should keep his hands up until told to do otherwise. How did you miss where the girlfriend said that he was asked for his license and registration?”
Am I to presume that the term ‘driving while Black’ years old yet facetiously true is unknown? Of course hands-up CAN still cause death. Hands-down IS SURELY a call to the UNDERTAKER.
In simple terms when stopped by a white police officer a Black man, must first pray to his faith Leader.
Then turn on his camera phone.
And then do his best Denzil in order to live another day!!!
It is incongruous to give a son the ‘cops and stop’ talk (the girls need ONLY get the ‘birds and bees’ one) and yet advise any Black man to adopt a position of pride and passion when confronted by a police officer unless the desire is to bury a son as a ‘proud brother’ who did not kowtow.
Living in Barbados is wondrous.
But for those of us in Canada or US we know that if a Black man is US president, a Black woman is the chief law officer and yet Black men are still being concerned about ‘driving while Black’ then we are effing bad-word screwed.
I’ll leave the Rambo talk for folks not confronted by this very real threat.
Incidentally, a cop stopped a Black man today and while going back to his car he (cop) was shot three times.
That means that Black men will not be stopped for a while (tomorrow I WILL WIN a million $$, too), or it means that EVERY traffic stop of a Black brother white cops will escalate to the max ‘def con 5’ immediately.
Let’s keep those hands visible!!! THAT WILL still SAVE some lives.
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Sir, he was asked for his particulars. He was reaching for them. How was he supposed to get them – with this teeth? If somebody asks you for something instinctively you reach for them I bet that if he hadn’t reached for them he would have been labeled uncooperative. Why are you not getting this?
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his teeth
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Donna, you are being ridiculous so let me leave this discourse by saying of course you are right. steeeupse. And suffice to say we are saying the same thing but you want to split hairs apparently.
When I say hands-up it means also the broad point of being extremely careful – extremely – when confronted by cops. Of course he was getting his ID as requested. So too was Levar Edward Jones in Columbia, South Carolina, reaching for his DL when he was shot.
So I repeat to your rambo type comments that this is very REAL. Five cops were killed last night. Right now cops are on edge. If its me then my hands are staying on the damn steering wheel until that cop holsters that gun or I am otherwise comforted.
If he wants to take me to the damn station then I going too. And I will NOT hang myself in there so if they say so then they lying as shiittte. I hope David can get justice for me!!!!!
Frankly, however, if they intend to kill my ass then they will.
Check and become aware that just 1/10 of one effing % of cops involved in killings of citizens on the job are successfully prosecuted.
You son is in Barbados and you are a woman. Your lotta long talk is real pretty in those circumstances.
My hands down pon de steering wheel. Arrest my backside! You obviously think this is BS blog talk. SEVEN people died in the last three days. More will follow UNFORTUNATELY in same context.
YOU will not be any. Be thankful. But really don’t play semantics on such a painful, serious matter. Steeeupse.
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At the end of the day with all the nasty crap the police have been doing in the US, none of the commissioners of police or the mayors from any of the cities want to see them burning to the ground…that will be the eventual response of angry black people.
Bill Bratton formerly Commissioner in LA…remember those riots, now commissioner in NYC knows that too well….hardcore racist that he is…he refused to allow Trump to speak to any police roll in NU to stir anger…he remembered well what happened under his watch a second time.
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@ Donna,
Dont misread De Word.
He is saying the same “damned if you do damned if you dont” thing that you are saying
I dont think many of you understand the phenomena of guns particularly in the United states of america
I am going to deal with it at the personal level first.
Here is a cuntry that is built on frontiersmen having to match their wits against nature and the native indian and kill him the indian and now try to tame it, the frontier with another scourge which he the white man brought. Non Whites.
Now imaging this here scene.
“Stranger, dont go for that thar gun, or I’ll be your Huckleberry”
Those days of the wild wild west are gone, or are they? Where in the united states of america can a nation that is momentarily fed on killing and shooting and garotting and bombing, and senseless killing can you get to be a living cowboy, kill a few people and jes ride on home to the missus and the childrun (are is reading well)?
United States Armed Forces “Be All that you can be” and the police. Or in that private contractor unit – the BlackWater scandal where them gun slingers, not to be confused with timothy slinger, though he did attempt a ting at that shop in Baxters road, without a gun, where those BlackWater fellows kilt, yes i done said kilt, “them thar pilgrims” (not to be confused with Pigrims) because they need to be bad assed and get a notch on the handle.
WHEN THE TAPES ARE PLAYED AND THE SOUNDS ARE ENHANCED FROM THE WOMAN”S PHONE you will all hear what the cop said before he murdered the black man.
He came to kill him and get his notch on his gun butt, that is what this is criminals with badges.
Now once you understand that mentality that lives in all americans, particularly the white ones then we go to the National Psyche.
Guns are a billion dollar industry, and guns got to sell, the NRA is one of the most powerful lobbies in the USA.
What few of you understand is that Amrica is constantly in a state of readiness for war.
Alot of you happy go lucky west injuns who live in a society where the CoP gives weapons to bajan whites on the fly and affluent Bajan blacks, and the rest of the law biding citizens like me got to hide my glock under the dog pen well lubricated with gun oil, we live in a kiddy goat heaven where once in a while we get a shootout and one or two people get kilt.
The concept of the armed militia is enshrined in the American constitution so that WHEN THE INVASION COMES they will be armed to the teeth.
All uh wunna jes stay happy doah in Beautiful barbados, gem of the Caribbean Sea…
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Fear Play@1.40pm
Bahamas seem to have done it….
http://www.loopnews.com/content/bahamas-issues-travel-advisory-us-after-police-shootings
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@Dee Word
There is the saying you have to walk in the shoes to understand – feel the pinch. It is a very scary experience when White policemen stop a Black man in the USA. The BU household has first hand experience. You are made to feel less than a man for the experience because you want to live and protect your family from harm.
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Gabriel…it’s the smart thing to do, the police are gearing up for a war, everyone is armed to the teeth and not afraid to shoot, so why would anyone in their right minds take their good money to buy tickets and take their children and risk their lives traveling to the US, to get killed.
May as well stay where ya are, instead of paying to get shot.
There are 112 weapons to every 100 people..are people crazy, who wants to be in that mess.
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http://ow.ly/6jay3024yR6
Smart people.
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“The United States has routinely issued travel advisories for The Bahamas and other Caribbean countries. Its current threat advisory level for American citizens traveling to Nassau is listed as “critical”, due to crimes involving firearms.”
Other Caribbean islands need to grow some balls and advise their citizens about the extrajudicial killings of black males bynpolice in the US….if they care about their citizens…that is my opinion.
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http://ow.ly/Y4H73024zjn
Gingrich was never my favorite person and I am really surprised that he finally understands the danger, after decades of denial, let’s hope congress and the legislators on capitol hill also get the message….no more shits and giggles.
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Until the philosophy that hold one nation superior and another inferior…..
We acknowledge another fallen nigger because we are niggers (though not sand niggers)
That is their struggle and they MAY OR MAY NOT DEAL WITH IT cause that is Murica and them loves that.
I still going get up tomorrow with my Abijah Holder dead at coverley roundabout and not a man charged with the crime.
Let me issue a challenge to all the BU legal luminaries right now.
I will be wunna Huckleberry and pledge to get de grandson develop the first teir of the Justice for All Virtual Participatory Democracy platform if wunna legal beagles work pun incorporating it and getting the entity Non Governmental Organization status.
Stop all de pretty talking and let we do sumting nuh instead uh getting heah and doing all these pretty Stoopid Posters and wunna postulating and liking and getting like
Is any uh wunna serious??
Send wunn false address to de blogmaster and leh he send um tuh me and I will share some ideas wid wunna pun a Virtual Platform, I ent tekking no files from nun uh wunna snozzet.
Do a facebook private group and only gine de serious fuh dis ting…
But den again I is a serious man so now we gine see which uh wunna menses dat is lawyers and got udder skills want to up de game fuh de less fortunate or jes heah blowing air up a man pooch
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Piece…they have no excuse, lawyers etc…they have all the tools available to them to form a powerful movement in cyberspace …and the anonymity.
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Rather any of you like it or not; Mia Mottley will be the next Prime Minister of Barbados. Until that time, and three thousand more comments about how terrible she is ( I is included), she must be pressed and pressure hard to reform her party towards greater transparency, and her leadership to one that will make Barbadians comfortable and proud. Mia Mottley must, therefore, be forced into to talking about integrity legislation, constitutional reforms, greater accountability and transparency, provisions made to charge all crooked ministers and civil servants via new powers of the Auditor General, and establishing a Financial supervisory body led by the Auditor General. These measures, along with much more, will ensure the proper perusal and screening needed in all government contracts, contractors and associate business persons. She must also make all matters of state, where large sums of money are spent, available for public scrutiny.
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Dearest Suzanne niceeeeeee.
I hope you will beep your place in Europe and not come back here.
For two reasons.
One is that you ent going get let in at de airport and Two, according to De Pedantic Dribbler, I going need somewhere to move to when the Default Prime Minister, formerly Deputy Prime Minister becomes the Despotic Prime Minister.
DPM All De Way
One of the reasons I have not launched Mia’s Cartoons and Videos and Animations just yet is very simple.
Three letters they are central to her campaign but that is in abeyance.
The issue though is as follows.
The average bajan does not do things in moderation so, like the Brexit campaign, if I attack Mottley now, me fears that the backdraft will not achieve the not one “badword” seat that is my objective.
She Mottley cannot be a Despot in the presence of Eddie Hinkson, and Kerrie Simmonds, not while the old stalwarts are alive that is, and the new bucks are bucking to be Prime Minister too.
This is why she is handpicking the new constituency representatives the ones without any obvious backbone who will give her numbers should that internal voting thing happen,
Eddie ent no idiot.
She would be advised not to do it, in Barbados, th island won’t survive the economic onslaught that would follow.
But she just want to be Prime Minister for Life that all.
Steupseeee what and absolute shame that we are governed by the mediocre and the power mad.
It destroy the economy of Barbados in a more radical way than Fumbles and his inept band have
There is also a way to ensure that Mottley behaves and does the right thing but one cannot broadcast that avenue as yet.
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Listen to Gollop’s reaction to the Judge’s ruling at 36.50 on the recording.
[audio src="http://vob929.com/FilesFTP/Brasstacks/2016/July/DTBJul05-01.mp3" /]
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My Sweet Piece
You know who are the boys from the men, those with balls and those without, those who love Barbados, and those who are only interested in talking about things bajans while showing off their skills or talking about their educational levels. You know those who are on the take and only pimp and those who cannot tell a Beavis from a Butt-head.
None of that is going to change the state of Barbados’ current uglies and, certainly, will not attract the investors if we continue to operate backwardly in our stupid conceit and various narcist nonsense. I believe in my heart that Mia is key. I do not like her or what she stands for. In fact, I cannot stomach the pretensive, manipulating, power hungry bitch. But, but, but, but, what is certain to me, and what I see, is a person who is in the best position of her life to make some serious decisions that could change the fate of Barbadians for the better. That said, she must decide on a course of leadership that is effective and appeals to the people. She has the lessons from the current Piss Poor Prime Minister (3PM), and all others that came before this deceitful person. She can, overnight, become the darling of Barbados leadership or another Stuart of impugned Freundel.
I am not interested in the other circus clowns from the DLP. The electorate will decide who gets a seat and who does not. What is certain is that the DLP will not be victorious in 2018, and Freundel Stuart would have to buy the entire constituency of St. Michael South if he wants to win, or come up with a game plan that would cause those constituents to like him again. He or his administration is not my focus, Mia is. That is why she must tell Barbados what she would do as Prime Minister against the overwhelming evidence that things in government remain non-transparent because it benefits many pockets of government officials who operate very shady indeed. She must no think that we would allow her to talk all around anti-corruption and declaration of assets legislation when we know that her government had 14 years of doing a lot of shite and pocketing a lot of free tax money. When they were put out to sea, we had to deal with another bunch of equally despicable, crooked and lying brutes. Now we want no more of the exploit. Mia Mottley must be pressured. I will give her my vote; my peeps are all with me; and trust me when I say, we girls can influence a lot of numbers in and out of Barbados. We are well connected. And, Mia, you know how well connected we don’t you?
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True, Mia has the opportunity to be famous or infamous. We should encourage her to choose the former. It would be more gratifying to use power for good than for evil, I would think. I wonder if she has even considered that. Most people do not even give it a thought because they are caught up in the old ways. How great it would be to be seen as the one who turns things around! She would command a greater space in the history books than Errol Barrow. A politician among politicians! A woman among men! etc. etc. etc.
P.S. Sometimes one catches more flies with honey.
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Ok Dearest One (and Donna)
Say just for the sake of argument one was to support the Default Prime Minister, even in the face of what one knows, tell me how, in the face of the dog pup Covenant of Hope, tell me how, in the face I’d so many previous Manifestos of Lies do we the electorate achieve an equitable position with these varmints and parasites?
One which secures Freedom of information, integrity legislation and my personal favourite The Power of Recall?
We are in 2016 and Eddie Hinkson and Payne and Smiley Teets Marshall and Ronald Toppin nor none of them have not declared their assets, not a man!!
If in the time of the Bridegroom or in this time when they are not in power, these slime cannot declare what the have and are starting with, how in the time of absence of any controls on them will we the people be able to demand any such declarations and accountability?
If the two of you ladies, one whom The PPK hath exposed my interest in, and the other who loves My Lord, can answer this for me, I shall give consideration to a compromise of sorts.
I simply do not believe anything Mottley says, you see her body, you hear her speak but I see through a different eye.
It is not your or my sensory organ with light receptors running to the brain no, anyways, at the end of the day, I will listen to what you say but I shall incline mine ear the the Voice of My Lord and lean not to mine own understanding
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pieceuhderockyeahright July 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM #
“Ok Dearest One (and Donna)
Say just for the sake of argument one was to support the Default Prime Minister, even in the face of what one knows, tell me how, in the face of the dog pup Covenant of Hope, tell me how, in the face I’d so many previous Manifestos of Lies do we the electorate achieve an equitable position with these varmints and parasites?
…….If in the time of the Bridegroom or in this time when they are not in power, these slime cannot declare what they have and are starting with, how in the time of absence of any controls on them will we the people be able to demand any such declarations and accountability?
If the two of you ladies, one whom The PPK hath exposed my interest in, and the other who loves My Lord, can answer this for me, I shall give consideration to a compromise of sorts.”
pieceuhderockyeahright,
A random piece of superb reasoning has led you to a fundamental but powerful question. Do not be a coward and ask two ladies to answer that question for you, when you already know the answer.
I cannot put it as colourfully as Bush Tea can, so I say “give consideration to a compromise of sorts”, what!
Be a man. “Grow some balls”. Be fair.
Say it after me: “Not one effing seat” for the opposition neither. LOL.
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My Sweet Piece
These persons have not declared their assets because there is no consequence or penalty, no law or rule that says they must. None of the two parties are interested in having this necessary piece of legislation put in place that could cause them to stumble and trip up. Mia Mottley and her gang, even long before her, are aware of the system designed to benefit all serving political figures. Note that her attacks on the piss poor democratic labour party have not touched the need for anti-corruption legislation, integrity legislation, accountability legislation, certain constitutional reforms, and greater enforcement against malicious activities. She takes her cause that far and no further. She must be targeted as the key for change.
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Not One Mention of Albert Branford commentary titled Desperate BLP
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Have been saying for the past six and half years that Mia and her gang including the body of yardsfowl supporters have used the politics of Desperation mostly defined by fear to gain political support ,however the electorate has not bought into her hilarious and well seasoned mouthing as she bits and claws at every issue
Now Mia has been called out by one of the BLP stalwarts because of the ridiculousness and callous statement encouraged by the Politics of place and Blame while being aided and encouraged by her hobby horse Cynthia Forde
It is about time a gag order be put in place against both Mia and Cynthia both veteran political criminals who would stop at nothing to put fear in the hearts of the citizens
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No mayyer how mia bobs and weave around the burning issues of the nation at the end of the seven year period she would have to tell the country her plans for the economy,After six years of hiding behind Doom and gloom strategy her only way to win the election would be that of giving clear and precise plans for the social and economic health of the country. If the Blp operatives believe that talking about and talking garbage would be enough to win then they have all their facts screwed up and indeed it is time for them to wheel and come again
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pieceuhderockyeahright July 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM #
Ok Dearest One (and Donna)
I simply do not believe anything Mottley says, you see her body, you hear her speak but I see through a different eye.
My Sweets, Mottley is rogue. You can paint her with stripes, put on a cloak of good on her and even tell her to come clean; it is not going to remove the nasty stain she created for herself over the years. Mottley is simply a female with a hidden agenda and a thirst for the seat of Prime Minister. That said, how is ‘you not trusting what she says’ gonna change her or provide for better governance when you know she is capable of doing a lot of shites? You think sit back and say, ” I do not trust her,” is going to get her talk more about those integrities and transparencies and accountabilities and declarationies, and legislative lobbynies and enforcementies we need from her as part of the massive change in the forward movement? Shite, I do not trust her or the BLP either, just like you and I do not trust Freundel Stuart or the DLP. Both parties have done enough throughout the years not to be trusted. It’s the reason why you are poster protesting against the DLP. You see them as the worst government in the history of DLP governmental politics. But tell me, babes, when you have achieve ”Not one Effing Seat,” and Mottley claims all for her party, just remember that you would have successfully dealt with the disgusting half of the dozen, leaving the other disgusting half to their devices. MOTTLEY MUST BE TARGETED NOW AND THE PIONEER TO REVAMP THE OUT OF CONTROL ELEMENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPTION!!
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