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dcameron_brexitOver sixty years ago Eric Williams famously argued that one from 10 leaves naught. His arithmetic formulation has been pregnant with meanings for Caribbean peoples since. Words which continue to ring in the ears of regional peoples for these six decades hence. Now the echo of Williams’ words may to be felt in the centre of the ‘former’ colonial masters. The colonialists who were run out of the Caribbean after an abysmal performance during world war two and the emergence of America as the hyper-power with the CIA as its spearhead in this region.

Within a few days the people of England go to the polls to determine this accidental political issue. We say accidental because it was almost an afterthought by current prime minister David Cameron as a way of getting a wedge issue, an insurance policy, to pry an election from opposition forces.

This does not mean that healthy numbers of British peoples have not had longstanding misgivings about the European Union, NATO and the Eurozone. And not without just cause. From the beginning, ‘hidden government forces’, birthed these alliances to dis-empower the citizens of Britain and empower unelected EU and business interests, at all levels of government. They have been highly successful in concentrating political and economic power into the hands of unelected officials in Brussels. And there maybe more diverse views in Scotland and Wales as based on wider internal political calculations – Scotland more so than Wales, we suspect.

Both the ‘leave’ and the ‘remain’ forces have waged extensive campaigns. In recent days the leave campaign has opened up a 10-point lead in some polls. We will be surprised if the Council of Europe allows a mere public expression by peasants to derail 50 years of strategic supra-national nation building efforts. The orders of magnitude are beyond large. Just a few years ago the Caribbean itself was in a haste to establish an EU of the Caribbean. Now that dissatisfaction is rife all across Europe, from hindsight, our thought leaders would no doubt be having fourth thoughts. We are used to relying on the mis-leadership of Caribbean elites.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer has estimated that Britain will lose 1.5 to 4.5 percent of GDP should the ‘leave’ campaign prevail. London, is indeed, in a life or death struggle to be ‘the leading centre’ for global finance. Indeed, minus the net capital inflows into London, and particularly Canary Wharf, Britain may well be heading backwards. For it can no longer be seen as a fourth generation industrial centre.

His case is quite persuasive especially when one considers that about 45% of British exports go to EU countries. These goods and services will immediate be subject to increased tariffs as coming from a non-EU country. Banking interests particularly, on balance, will face a sleuth of ‘headquartering decision making.’ This decision alone could turn Britain into a third world country unless it goes again on a re-colonizing project.

And there are several other political forces at work. These include the influence of far-right elements, within and without, the conservative party that believes the EU delivers too many immigrants. ‘Commonwealth’ citizens are feeling that they are and are likely to continue to be collateral damage from a distinctively racist discourse which was underground from the 1950’s, but now is in the open.

The immediate efforts of ‘leave’ activists are to stymie the endless flow of people from eastern European countries. Certainly, the foreign policy of Cameron ‘s government in relation to the ‘Middle East’ continues to deliver a steady flow of migrants, of a hue, likely to put a tad too much coffee into the British milk.

The British hate the idea of handing over 15 billion pounds annually to European bureaucrats. They see themselves as having to carry the paupers of the EU – the eastern European countries, the southern Europeans – Greece, maybe Spain and Italy are to be added soon. They feel outmanoeuvred by the Germans, the high tech industrial base of Europe and thus its increasing relative power regionally, globally.

There are some who are forecasting a total collapse of the EU project starting with a ‘leave’ vote in Britain. This maybe be possible but unlikely. Surely the project has entered unchartered waters. Extreme pressures are getting to the point of unsustainability. Surely, when the defense arm of the alliance, NATO, as America’s boy scouts could be made to threaten Russia with the current war games of 30,000 troops, on Russia’s western borders and on the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa, suggests that those in Washington may yet have some ‘useful’ purpose/s for they ‘united’ colonial possessions in North-western Asia (EU). Military considerations point to unity to fight a perceived enemy, as primary consideration.

On June 23, 2016 the people of Britain have two choices – ‘yes’ or ‘no’. We would like to suggest a third option. We contend that if the people vote yes, their vote will be ignored for years as terms for a Brexit are negotiated. During this window the potency of that vote will weaken as the establishment and business interests seek to re-interpret the intent of the people. Of course a ‘no’ vote will re-impose the position ante, will be a vote for the bankers, the unelected officials and so on. We however, suggest that the ‘yes’ will prevail if a fair election could be had. So we judge that one from 28 will still be 28.

Again the Caribbean, in the person of Fruendel Stuart, would have benefited David Cameron as to how expressions of the people in ‘elections’ could be easily misinterpreted. In the same way Stuart did not give us a national unity government then, Cameron will never accede to popular demands to leave the EU, neither now nor never! In both cases we will witness the most sophisticated impositions of private interests ahead of popular demands.


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101 responses to “Brexit – One from 28 Leaves 28”


  1. I read an article yesterday stating that even if Britain leaves the EU no other European city will replace London. I guess only time will tell.
    This is my lighe hearted take on the matter: https://politics868.wordpress.com/2016/06/17/possible-brexit-scenarios-if-the-eu-were-an-empire-and-the-uk-were-its-colony/


  2. An interesting article, unfortunately totally without inside knowledge..! Why, I live in the UK and flying out tomorrow to cast my vote! This referendum could have a twist… The “Spin Doctors” are working on both sides. According to Putin (Russian Leader) Cameron could postpone the election and hold the EU to ransom for a better deal..! The terrible execution of Jo Cox MP by a “British First” terrorist has turned the attention away from “Brexit” debates. The nation is in mourning, most politicians are heartless, this could be the ideal opportunity to throw a spanner in the works..!


  3. What Brexit has exposed for this outsider is how a reputed mature democracy had been turned inside out and transform to a very toxic environment. What does it bode for the parodies we practice in this part of the world.


  4. Your questions go to the centre.

    We see, or are made to see, these countries as the ‘examples’. The goals we should try to attain.

    On closer examination, especially for those who have lived in North Atlantic countries, there are very different stories. Stories seldom told. And if told are based on propaganda, not reality.


  5. Sometimes outsider knowledge is as valuable as insider knowledge.

    Some of us got your point.


  6. @David
    What Brexit has exposed is that this whole lotta shiite about a common market, common community and open borders, is long outdated in the twenty first century.
    Lotta shiite.

    First of all, the selfish, albino-centric mentalities that dominate this world are counter-intuitive to such unions …UNLESS there are overriding considerations (like being attacked and over-run by a potential enemy as was common back in the nineteenth century).

    Secondly, the all pervasive idea that economics and material ‘success’ represents the “be-all” and “end-all” of life must ring hollow to tthose of us who can think beyond the uselessness of such thinking.

    That one of the so-called models of such common markets continues to experience such divisiveness, years into its existence, should reinforce the nonsense that was (is) CSME; and should lead us to reflect of what is REALLY important in the fleetingly short window of consciousness that we call ‘life on earth’…..

    ….and It SURELY ain’t just the accumulation of millions of dollars…..
    LOL (and Bushie would know 🙂 )


  7. It doesn’t matter if the stay or leave vote wins, what matters is the weight of Churchill’s view all those years ago. What system is better.

  8. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @ David, after 2000+ years this Brexit does ” bode”badly for what you describe as ” the parodies we practice in this part of the world”.

    One can posit that a similar ‘Brexit’ was evidenced in the dissolution of the once bold and proud USSR. The new Russia regrouped to be a colossus, however.

    ‘Brexit’ can be evidenced in the calls over many years for Quebec to leave their Canadian union. Will this give greater momentum to that effort?

    And ‘Brexit’ is surely seen in Scotland wanting their own exit. If Britain leaves the EU, does Scotland regig a new referendum to leave the UK union, as pundits as surmised.

    And of course ‘Brexit’ is seen in the specter of more liberal, gun bashing, confederate flag- hating, gay-loving US Presidents – particularly if they are Black – leading to the wild growth of separatists groups in the US -by some counts growing 14% from 2014 -15. By other measures exploding to over 1,000 such groups over Obama’s two terms.

    And this providing a backdrop for places like Texas to voice a desire, like Quebec, to secede from the US union.

    So evidently it’s nothing to do with the system of government per se but more to do with Bushie’s greed.

    And too the inverse of that “overriding considerations” to being attacked, as the fear of attacks from immigrants who no longer share a way of life and ethos is directly a reason for these various break-ups.

    Based on all that, young, maturing societies seemingly don’t stand a chance….unless they look very carefully at the reasons for success of the processes of the US (over 200 years) or the UK and even USSR (70+ years before breakup).

    The possible break-up of the EU does tell us a lot but neither that or the other ‘Brexits’ paint a story of all negatives.


  9. What??


  10. @Dee Word

    Scotland has already put Cameron on notice if the leave vote wins.


  11.  

    Tumble family’s plea to fly injured Clive Rees home from Barbados

    • 17 June 2016

    Clive Rees

    A family in Carmarthenshire must raise £65,000 to fly their injured father back from Barbados.

    Clive Rees, from Tumble, was celebrating his 65th birthday on the Caribbean island with his wife Sonia when he was hit by a car.

    He is being treated in an intensive care unit after developing pneumonia and breathing difficulties.

    Mr Rees is unable to return home on a commercial flight and the family is raising money for an air ambulance.

    They have made a heartfelt plea to the public to help them reach their target following the incident on 13 May.

    "You always think something like this will never happen to you," said daughter Tracy Rees.

    "We just want him home."

    Miss Rees said the response has been "overwhelming", with support from family, friends and local businesses.

    "We’ve raised about £2,000 so far," she said.

    "I just can’t believe how generous everyone is. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts."

    The £65,000 air ambulance fee encompasses a return trip from the UK, refuelling and a team of medical staff to look after Mr Rees.


  12. David/Bushie

    It is always hard for us to understand why some, one in particular, always have to hold fast to things they ‘believe’, not know, to be true.

    For some who pretend academic training, we wonder if there could ever be any intellectual space to come to any discourse with clean hands. A determination to find new truths even if painful.

    Why is it so hard for people to understand that we genuinely care not about any particular political ideology. Our interests are to continue to seek the best way/s beneficial to all of the people, all of the time. Nothing else.

    Please believe these views are counter to our own interests. They are counter-intuitive, but right!

    We were called ‘narcissists’. We imagined being the opposite. Are narcissists not to be like Trump anymore? Not to have an inability to show empathy? To care for their fellow man. Yet we qualify.

    It’s a contradiction in terms, to say the least.

    And we care not what range of ideologies have to be combined to achieve those objectives.

    Even the Third Reich of Adolf Hitler helped with a technological leap into a third industrial age that may have some lessons for development.

    To ignore that we have lost our way with ‘democracy’, with capitalism, cannot be ignore because some want to accuse us of being ‘Communists’ or ‘Socialists’ or ‘Anarchists’ even as Narcissists.

  13. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    de pedantic Dribbler June 18, 2016 at 10:26 AM #

    Another slant,is that it is all about deciding the new leadership of the Conservative party as Cameron leaves.Note Corbyn is not saying much.


  14. David,

    Is there an insurance company involved?


  15. @Donna

    Let us hope for some details. It is hard to imagine the family is not able to secure help to transport this man home from UK authorities.



  16. Brits built a fair and just society on the backs of an enslaved people.They became ‘civilized’ as a result of their new found wealth,so they were able to make the quantum leap from hanging and quartering people,beating them with a cat-o-nine tails and legalizing man to man relationships.As a result of all this wealth they were able to afford lots of social services which became attractive to poor East Europeans and others from the African and Asian continent and subcontinent.Today the BBC said 800,000 polaks alone moved to the UK in the last 10 years.This migration,the constant over ruling of the British courts by the European court and the 10 billion pound contribution paid by Brits to the European Community coffers have all come together to make Brexit a big possibility.


  17. @ Gabriel
    A society ALWAYS ends up with the results that it truly DESERVES.

    Whether they ‘Brexit’ or ‘Bremain’ their asses are grass… and they will pay multiple times over for the rape Africa, the Caribbean, and other parts of the world.

    Any old idiot must know that when you put a wide variety of apples in a common bag the whole lot ends up the same as the lowest quality. So now that they have come to experience the rot …what is the point of leaving? will they deport the millions of parasites who moved there to gorge on the ill-gotten spoils?

    There is a time for everything.
    The time has come for reckoning across this world of ours…
    So..
    If they stay ..or if they exit..
    if we stay with Froon …or if we go with Mia..
    if the USA Trumps…or if they Clinton..
    if Dribbler drinks the Canadian water …or if he drinks beer…

    Start counting…..


  18. This Brexit debate presents an opportunity for us to revisit issues around the ‘independence’ of Barbados.

    For years the canard that Errol Barrow is some ‘father of independence’ a ‘national hero’ is what it always has been – a bald face lie.

    We know now, for certain, that it was the CIA which was behind almost all the former colonies getting ‘independence’ after WW2. Including Barbados and most of the Caribbean.

    The historical lie that anybody in Barbados should be praise need urgent correction.

    If this lie continues to stand ……………………… no genuine nation building can occur.


  19. How interesting it will be if the country that once encouraged us in the West Indies to have a federation now bows out of a would-be federation of which it is now part.

  20. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    atomtrident June 18, 2016 at 12:55 PM #

    A west indies federation or a unified caribbean has never been in the interest of the world powers.


  21. You can also see that in the way the EU broke the ACP Group into smaller sub-regional groupings for EPA negotiations.

  22. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pacha, not to be pre-sumptious but are YOU really accusing ME of the following.

    “For some who pretend academic training, we wonder if there could ever be any intellectual space to come to any discourse with clean hands. A determination to find new truths even if painful.”

    ‘come […] with clean hands” . You have the audacity to accuse others of that. Oh lawd.

    And to string together a few words to a sentence in an attempt to offer an opinion as logically and clearly as possible is to pretend academic training and intelligence? Oh lawd. I’ll accept that as a compliment. LOLLL.

    But as I said maybe I am being absolutely presumptions. LOL

    Laughter aside. Anyhow, my actual reason to tap you is to ask: what difference does it make why the islands went independent back in the 60s as it relates to “no genuine nation building can occur.”

    I would agree with your independence view re CIA or a push from England etc. But I don’t see why knowledge of that canard should adversely affect us now or negatively impact future growth

    Let’s leave reputation and dirty hands off the blog and simply deal with what is written. It’s hypocrisy to impute to others what you seem yourself to be doing.

  23. Colonel Buggy Avatar

    Even if Britain exits the EU, it will still continue to receive favourable concessions from the EU. With Russia flexing its muscles and practicing it deadly bear hugs, the UK is the only real force , that has the capacity to lead a combined NATO / EU force in the Baltic. Right now with all the Brexit talk, Britain is supplying a battalion as part of a buffer force in the Baltic.
    Britain, in or out, is still important to the EU.


  24. Jean-Claude Juncker recently warned that if the UK leaves the EU it will be seen as a deserter and have to stand the consequences in terms of not getting any special treatment from the bloc.

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Vincent Haynes June 18, 2016 at 1:15 PM
    “A west indies federation or a unified caribbean has never been in the interest of the world powers.”

    The region’s politically variegated history of conquest and colonisation along with its ‘individually’ distinct geographical carvings makes it almost impossible for any form of unification to be achieved.
    The region (West Indies) is just a social microcosm of a blend of Europe, West Africa and East India superimposed on an almost extinct Amerindian landscape.

    Do you feel the recent assassination of the Labour MP would have a negative impact on the influence the pro-Brexit lobby is having on the ‘undecided’ UK voters? Certainly among the ethnic minorities and immigrant population it will push them closer to the “Remain” side of the referendum debate.

  26. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    millertheanunnaki June 18, 2016 at 4:33 PM #

    I agree,the Britain first rant will not help Brexit and will assist the undecided.

    Did you see Corbyn on the Marr show this morning….he tried to show the need for immigrants…….a point on immigrants which many miss is that if you have a reduction in children being born you need to augment your population with migrants in order that your pensions and NIS funds can be maintained.

    As stated in a previous post…..just look at the fragmentation of the ACP group by EU….this will support your statement and we can see it manifesting itself on BU regularly by some loudmouth individuals who play into the hands of the superpowers by objecting to the unification of at least the english speaking Caribbean.

    This Brexit thing is a game within a game within a game a bit like the old Dubonnette ad.


  27. @ Vincent,

    I agree.

    For what it is worth, maybe not much, I believe that leaving the EU will hurt Britain tremendously in both social and economic status.

  28. Colonel Buggy Avatar

    Passing through Belgium once I voiced my surprise at the many Vauxhall cars seen on the road there, only to be told that many Vauxhall cars are made in Belgium, and exported to the UK. I once experienced a problem, in Germany, obtaining a particular headlamp bulb for a service vehicle, and discovered that the manufacturer of these bulbs, was just a few kilometres down the road from my location.
    Manufacturing in Great Britain is at an all time low. With Bedford ,Fodden, AEC and Leyland, the work horses of the British Armed Forces, out of production, Britain has turned to Germany for its supply of heavy duty vehicles. And pretty soon ,with Land Rover , the adopted light duty vehicle since 1948, relocated to India, the Brits will be looking for a replacement from an EU manufacturer.
    Britain needs the EU ,and the EU needs Britain.


  29. BBC Breaking News@BBCBreaking 2m2 minutes ago

    LIVE: UK PM David Cameron faces questions from the #bbcqt audience in an #EUref special http://bbc.in/264XBZu


  30. Anthony Hilton of the ES is positing that the vote is not binding on the British Government and its not the first time such a referendum was held.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/why-we-may-remain-even-if-we-vote-leave-a3272621.html


  31. @Gabriel

    Unlike Harold Wilson Cameron’s rhetoric is all about leaving.


  32. David
    I got the opposite impression.He is for staying,his current nemesis Boris is about leaving.


  33. @Gabriel

    You are correct, got wires crossed.


  34. A monitor of the morning news out of Britain suggest it is difficult to determine how people will vote. What is sure is that the country has become polarized as the date to vote draws nigh.

    Refreshing is the courage and custom of Prime Minister David Cameron to face citizens to answer hard questions.

  35. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David June 20, 2016 at 6:14 AM #

    Jo’s killing has given remain a 3% advantage……still too close to call although I will forecast a remain win.


  36. “Vincent

    The Scotland referendum should make the pundits very cautious.

    Agree with you many have become concerned about the rhetoric fueled by xenophobia etc.

    Let us hear what Corbyn has to say later.

    On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  37. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David June 20, 2016 at 6:22 AM #

    Westminster has been reconvened today for Jo’s eulogies and I have no doubt that references veiled or otherwise will be made to the killers leanings.


  38. @Gabriel

    ” polaks “………really? This is akin to the N word and is just as offensive.

  39. Colonel Buggy Avatar

    bookworm June 20, 2016 at 7:52 AM #
    Many of us do not recognise,other derogatory terms , mostly invented by the British to describe natives of lands they once ruled under the British Empire, or those who they have waged war against. The French,the Dutch and the Germans and the millions of Asians/Indians, who feel just as insulted as us when called the N-word.


  40. @ Colonel Buggy
    Polack is a derogatory name used by Germans to describe the Poles,nothing to do with the Brits this time.


  41. “For years the canard that Errol Barrow is some ‘father of independence’ a ‘national hero’ is what it always has been – a bald face lie.”

    Then the eccentric Mr Eric Gairy must be the “father of Independence” to Grenadians as wwell.


  42. Brexit is nothing more than a hoax fostered by Mr Cameron upon the British people to enhance his unappealing profile in the eyes of the British electorate. Without Brexit, he would have been an irrelevant politician.


  43. An interesting tidbit coming out of the Brexit debate is the low regard by a large segment of the population of politicians. In fact the word used is the childish behaviour the political class has displayed. The point here is that our politicians have company. What are we to do!


  44. Al Jazeera English

    10 hrs ·

    "The general tone of political debate [in Britain] has reached the point where politicians are almost despised by the population."

    Brexit and the toxicity of UK politics


  45. Britain votes to leave

    Is this a pyrrhic victory for the “Leave” side? Cameron campaigned vigorously to keep Scotland in the fold, the Brexit result ensures that Scotland will also vote to leave next referendum.

    Tomorrow should be an interesting day on the British, European and North American Stock markets as the North American market had risen in the last few days on the assumption that Britain would stay.

    Some political careers on the wane (Cameron) some on the rise (Johnson) and Farage?

    It was reported that HM11 let the word out that she favoured the “leave” side, guess the majority of Brits didn’t like playing second fiddle to the Germans and French.

    I suppose it will not be an understatement to say that the Post Mortem will be very interesting.


  46. @Sargeant

    Yes interesting next few hours. The financial markets started to dump pounds from yesterday. Will Cameron resign? How will the EU group react…

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