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Submitted by Anthony Davis
Minister Boyce also sought to make it clear that even in the worst of times, the hospital’s suppliers had never withdrawn their services.
…Minister Boyce also sought to make it clear that even in the worst of times, the hospital’s suppliers had never withdrawn their services….

‘’Warning that the unavailability of essential medical supplies at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) has reached a crisis of the highest order, doctors at the state-run health care facility have decided to handle emergency cases only. And they have called on Government to not only state unequivocally how it plans to fund the QEH in the short, medium and long term, but also to ‘explain the measures they will take to restore the broken supply chain …” – Barbados TODAY  28 November, 2014

So what’s new?

It seems to me that the QEH only gets a bit of money if the doctors come to the public and complain about the dire straits in which our primary health care institution is. This is the second time in less than six months this has happened.

Has the administration of that institution not learnt anything?

Are we at a stage where the Minister of Finance will have to find money for the QEH every six months, instead of funding it properly?

It is obvious that the CEO of the QEH would criticise BAMP and the JDA, because he does not want their members to show the lack of supplies at that institution. The only persons who wouldn’t have known about that were probably the “best” Minister of Finance in the world, and the Minister of Health. But neither of them need to care, because they can go anywhere in the world for treatment at the expense of the same people whom they are depriving of the basic and best treatment the QEH can offer!

There is no money for this institution, education, nor welfare, but enough for high-end SUVs for the boys, and hotels like the “All Seasons” which is always in a state of “soon ready to start” and into which they are always willing to pump millions of dollars which they pilfer from the NIS Funds. The amount of money which has been pumped into that bottomless pit could have better been spent on the QEH, and by extension the clinics, education, and welfare instead of cutting their funds!

If people are taught too much, that could be dangerous as they will start challenging more and more things instead of just swallowing everything they are told by them. It is the same with the health situation. First they changed the medication which people were getting for eons because they wanted us to pay more for our medication.

They knew full well that many of the elderly in our society could not pay for the new medication they introduced and nevertheless they did so, forcing them to be tied to the QEH and the clinics. The same goes for the poor, the needy, and the vulnerable in our society.

Now everything is stacked against them, and it will not get any better. I wonder how much lower Barbados can sink. It can already be likened to a snake, slithering along on its belly. You do not cut the funds for health, education or welfare. RPB’s song “de  country en well” is most appropriate at this stage of our development, and in our 48th year of independence. But, can one talk about development when we are only taking retrograde steps? I very much doubt it!

Instead of attaining First World status it seems as if we are headed for Fourth World one!

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62 responses to “Another Band-Aid for the QEH”

  1. HAMILTON A HILL Avatar
    HAMILTON A HILL

    These government ministers and public officials make all sorts of statements that go unchallenged by a mainstream media that seems to be in the business of permitting themselves to be prostituted for advertisement dollars. When the budget for the lone hospital was butchered in preference for campaign gimmickry the most vulnerable in this much vaunted ” society ” was made to feel pinch, while trained journalists accepted flawed reasoning without a question. They also accepted advertising dollars.

  2. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Whereas it is clear that things are bad at QEH———THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT FROM ABOVE IS CONCENTRATED BOVINE EXCREMENT

    “First they changed the medication which people were getting for eons because they wanted us to pay more for our medication.
    They knew full well that many of the elderly in our society could not pay for the new medication they introduced and nevertheless they did so, forcing them to be tied to the QEH and the clinics.”

    i WOULD LIKE THE AUTHOR OF THIS RUBBISH TO EXPLAIN THE NONSENSE HE WROTE AS CITED ABOVE

  3. Stupse Avatar
    Stupse

    When will the Budget be coming? Thought it was this month. How will they bring the Budget in the midst of Xmas?

  4. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Do you remember the children’s story about King Midas? Everything he touched turned to gold. Well it seems that this Government is suffering from a case of reversed Midas: everything they touch turns to sh-t.

  5. ac Avatar
    ac

    maybe it is time wunna start paying wunna way cause of all the freeness of yesteryear the country can no longer afford , , if the govt is broke than the next best thing would be for all to pull their own weight,

  6. bookworm Avatar
    bookworm

    Country run by third world despots!
    Shoot me now!

  7. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    How comes country Barbados was working effectively up unto January 2008 and all of a sudden NOTHING is going right in country Barbados?

    It certainly then has everything to do with the inept incompetent morons who are supposed to be the leaders.

    Country Barbados was working well under previous BLP, DLP administrations……….with Sandi’s as the exception, now because these ignorant morons have messed up every aspect of our society and economy, we have people questioning the two party system and are calling for a national unity coalition which they know is not constitutional.

    This is what this wicked DLP has done to country Barbados!

    QEH has always had its challenges but nothing of the magnitude currently being experienced. Did the Stinkliar and the gruff voice one tell us that with the massive cuts to the budget that patient care would not be compromised?

    I wonder what Maxine McClean has to say about the QEH especially since she is now actually a minister. Some years ago when she was lying saying she was not political on VOB’s Tell It like It Is, she lamented and agreed with a relative whom she said came in to visit a member of their family who was in hospital. She said the relative said “not one thing had changed since Wendell McClean was in there years previously.

    Maxine, what say you? Is the QEH worse today than in 2008?

  8. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    “maybe it is time wunna start paying wunna way cause of all the freeness of yesteryear the country can no longer afford….”

    This is a very interested comment. Free education across the board, subsidized rent for government units, school text book scheme and bus fares, $5 a week for school meals, “free” milk for infants school children, health care, $10,000 grants for house repairs, etc, etc.

    Many are quick to mention “the Barrow vision for Barbados”, but if we are honest with ourselves, this vision was good for the times during which it was formulated. Also, many of these social policies created a mendicant society, whereby Barbadians were given the impression they had a right to depend on government for all this “freeness”.

    In an effort to gain favour with the electorate, both political parties have strived, through their social programs, to keep Barrow’s vision alive. We must also admit financing these policies, while implementing additional programs, created a burden on the island’s finances, which ultimately led to the increasing debt, since each administration had to borrow to maintain the status quo.

  9. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re Prodigal Son | December 2, 2014 at 11:06 PM |
    How comes country Barbados was working effectively up unto January 2008 and all of a sudden NOTHING is going right in country Barbados?

    It certainly then has everything to do with the inept incompetent morons who are supposed to be the leaders.

    THIS CAN NOT BE DENIED OR DISPUTED

  10. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Prodigal Son

    Come on now prodigal. How much brain power does it take to govern a country the size of a dot on the world map?

  11. Dompey Avatar
    Dompey

    Prodigal Son

    Waa looka hear prodigal: Bush Tea, made a valiant endeavor last year to put forth his 11 points plan. He felt that he could have gotten it done with Georgie Porgie as his deputy. Now, Prodigal, could imagine Don Knotts and Benny Hill governing Barbados? Man it would have been a movie made for the big screen in Hollywood. Lol

  12. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    “How much brain power does it take to govern a country the size of a dot on the world map?”…………………

    You have a nerve to ask me that question…………it is your party that clearly is lacking brain power! They are inept and incompetent jackasses!

  13. Dr LOVE Avatar
    Dr LOVE

    What do I feel ?Think?
    When I read what Barbados has been brought to.
    Cant put my finger on it.

    I feel it is somewhat akin to losing a close family member.
    Maybe at a gross incompetence of a medical person.

    A great anger that it is of NO consequence , a frustration that it happened,
    A feeling of lost ,uselessness, at the crass ignorance .
    A wish to do some serious damage to SOMEBODY involved.

    How many moreof our basic rights; can Stuart and his cronies destroy , misuse , sell, ignore, or simple SHITE on??

    My mind tells me; ALL !!

  14. Dr LOVE Avatar
    Dr LOVE

    Ode to a despot PM, et al Whores

    Hey!! Niggah
    How long it does tek yuh tuh figah,
    Understan;
    dis heah Man;
    ent yuh kin!
    I trap en dis skin
    Understan.?
    Yuh got dat right!
    Widout dis Fkucin skin
    I be WHITE.

  15. David Avatar
    David

    One wonders if the issues at the hospital made public by BAMP and experienced by ordinary Bajans on a daily basis is not enough to guarantee a debate in the House of Assembly what is.

  16. Dr LOVE Avatar
    Dr LOVE

    @ David.
    HHHHMMMM!!!/
    Now yuh axin !!!
    He ent even care, does know de place open , he ent evah gine deah.

    LOL
    Let dem eat cake!!

  17. ac Avatar
    ac

    barrow’s vision began with an urgency,,an urgency to educate,, and out of the education there was to be a creation of wealth by the people sufficiently(so) and sustainable enough to maintain all of society needs, nothing to do with a cup in hand mentality be it govt having to look outside or people having to look for govt. for help.
    .

  18. ac Avatar
    ac

    i sit here in the gallery and shake my f..king head wondering what happen to the bajan spirit of brotherly love one that came with a hash tag of self reliance and dedication to country, it is mind boggling to understand(that) that spirit has been replaced( through no fault of any individuals) but by the high performance of govts attitude of withholding the truth throughout the years and repacking truthfulness with false hopes and dreams, far removed from barrows ideas and philosophy,

  19. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Yeah U so wud know about cup in hand mentality…….but all ya better find some cups QUIX…..all the other Caribbean countries surpassing we with outside investments…take a look at yet another one…
    Image just as wid last year,news of people gine home coming in December….cheeson breds man.. just plain ole NASTY !!

    Robert De Niro to be economic envoy for Antigua & Barbuda

    Actor is developing $250m resort in Caribbean island nation
    De Niro to help attract investment and US celebrities

    Associated Press in St John’s
    theguardian.com, Saturday 29 November 2014 15.33 GMT
    Jump to comments (9)
    robert de niro Robert De Niro will be encouraging US investment in Antigua & Barbuda. Photograph: AGF s.r.l./REX

    The prime minister of Antigua & Barbuda has appointed the actor Robert De Niro as special economic envoy of the twin-island nation in the eastern Caribbean.

    The administration of Gaston Browne said in a statement on Saturday that the appointment comes after De Niro signed a memorandum of agreement on Friday for a $250m hotel investment in Barbuda.

    Officials said De Niro and Australian businessman James Packer will help renovate and expand a former five-star luxury resort that closed several years ago.

    Browne said he expects the deal to be signed in late December and for construction to begin in the next 12 months.

    He said De Niro will help attract more investment and American celebrities to Antigua & Barbuda as special economic envoy.

  20. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    ac | December 3, 2014 at 6:32 AM | quote”i sit here in the gallery and shake my f..king head wondering what happen to the bajan spirit of brotherly love one that came with a hash tag of self reliance and dedication to country, it is mind boggling to understand(that) that spirit has been replaced( through no fault of any individuals”

    Heck YES!!! Fault OF specific individuals!!!!!!!

    Darned yes. And that is why people are xissed now.

    Even staunch DLP supporters, telling me this is the worst Government BIM ever had.

    But then, we had some serious ignorance in the last administration too.

    So, Heck YES, fault OF individuals!!!!

  21. Crusoe Avatar
    Crusoe

    David | December 3, 2014 at 1:23 AM | One wonders if the issues at the hospital made public by BAMP and experienced by ordinary Bajans on a daily basis is not enough to guarantee a debate in the House of Assembly what is.

    @ David. This is true and refusing to acknowledge issues is in of itself serious. Why? Because people KNOW there are issues and are vexed as heck.

    I am now, officially, VERY worried about the next six months. People are blue vexed.

    Might just stay home budget day and hide.

  22. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    WHAT’S THE USE COLLECTING ALL THESE TAXES..and taxpayers cannot get…….

    Proper Health care
    Systematic Garbage collection
    Debushing to rid Chickngunya mosquitoes
    Reliable bus service
    Responsive electric n gasoline price regime
    Free tertiary education
    Good Roads for 100% increased road taxes
    No more water woes for 60% in water rates

    What are ALL these TAX $$$$ being spent on then?

    NOW we hearing MORE LAYOFFS?………

    AND MORE TAXES?

    WHY?…Are we in an IMF Program then??? but receiving NO MONEY for these AUSTERITIES and SACRIFICES?

    IT DON”T MAKE SENSE……..

  23. Hamilton Hill Avatar
    Hamilton Hill

    I am convinced that this uncaring group of political hacks that now run this country designed the nuisance charges against the Facebook poster purely on the grounds of intimidation. The longer Barbadians continue to grin and bear this torture based on their abject fear to stand up for themselves, the longer this nonsense continues. Monies owed to entrenched workers cannot be found. Monies to maintain the single hospital in the country cannot be found. Still to this day The Frequent Flyers Club is very much in vogue. Richard Byer got his. …then again he served us well in St George South didn’t he? That’s what is meant when they tell us that government cannot be everything to everyone.

  24. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Make no mistake, this government’s intention is to take is back from whence we came: poor, pauperizing, and simply back to peasantry. The Prime Minister stated we are to count our blessings and be happy. The Prime Minister is a callous indifferent cunt. One whose elitist status has made him forgot about his maid mother and pig killing days in the back yard. He only addresses the status quo and leave the peasant class to themselves. The DLP I loved is no more. I have resigned myself from this callous bunch of hooligans and misfits. Talkers who make belief that they are thinkers. Crooks who want to appear as saints. Educated yet dumb to the affairs of country, State and its people. I have not seen such poor rakey administration in the all years I have come to know politics in Barbados. I have never in my life felt so ashamed to speak of Barbados where once when I speak I could speak with pride at our effective educational system, our ability to manage ourselves well and the fact that we were the talk of the town amidst an economy that was fuel by good management, good planning, good implementation with early leaders who were visionaries; most of whom understood that our lack of meaningful natural resources meant we had to manage our affairs at any cost well. Now we are saddled with a leader and leaders of latter years who is and are an island or islands on to him and themselves. These latter day leaders whose greed knows no bounds and whose ambitions are towards development of the whole but the preservation and upkeep on individual selves. These latter day leaders have pushed Barbados to the edge whilst their plunder for their own benefit and gains. I hope you all meet your fates soon…You bunch of no good crooked arrogant Johnnies… I hope all your lackeys and defenders also burn and rot in the only place that will house you….SEVEN LEAGUES BELOW HELL…

  25. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    “Barrow’s vision began with an urgency,,an urgency to educate,, and out of the education there was to be a creation of wealth by the people sufficiently(so) and sustainable enough to maintain all of society needs……”

    If that “vision” is the model as described above, then it sounds good on paper, for New Years, Easter Independence and Christmas messages, as we as at annual conferences and during election campaigns.
    Barbadians have refused to critically analyse this “vision” because Barrow’s name is held in high esteem for his efforts in securing independence for Barbados.

    Scarcity is the condition in which human wants are forever greater than the available supply of resources. Because of this economic problem, a society’s resources are insufficient to produce all the goods and services necessary to satisfy all of its citizens’ requirements. Hence, choices are necessary because resources are scarce. For example, if the government chooses to make significant investments in education, then fewer resources would be made available to invest in other areas. Consequently, adequately sustaining the hospital, social services, road repairs and other capital projects, etc., creates an additional burden on the island’s finances.

    The real test comes when government is able to sensibly and effectively allocate scare resources for productive purposes.

    In an environment where government’s revenues are less than its expenditure, resources will not be enough to invest in all areas within government’s jurisdiction, especially when some of those areas can be considered as being unproductive, or if the long-term benefits derived are worth the initial investment.
    Borrowing or using available funds to finance unproductive ventures, coupled with a lack of corporate governance, whereby party affiliates are allowed to charge government what they like and are paid [e.g. Richard Byer], and as outlined each year by the Auditor General, are unsustainable, adds a burden to these scarce resources and all benefits derived there from are short-term.

    Therefore, education as a means to “create wealth by the people sufficiently (so) and sustainable enough to maintain all of society’s needs” is difficult to achieve.

  26. Grime and Slime Detective Avatar
    Grime and Slime Detective

    IF the country were really broke , how come Byer the attorney- the Caves infame, could get his $485,258.33 for proof reading a loan contract that another lawyer charged only $17,453.00 for a higher loaned amount?

    If the country really broke, how come plans in the making to bring a megabucks plasma waste incinerator plan that will require more garbage than Barbados could produce to make it efficient?

    If the country really broke how come we can afford to pay all these ministers $17,000 and up every month and nobody can see it fit to FIRE 3 or 4 of them ?

  27. ac Avatar
    ac

    Why has China now emerged to be a super power .barrow model with some similarities if kept in place would have had the same effect as that of china whose natural resources founded out of an educated society is being sourced world wide

  28. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Prodigal Son | December 3, 2014 at 12:19 AM |
    “How much brain power does it take to govern a country the size of a dot on the world map?”…………………
    “You have a nerve to ask me that question…………it is your party that clearly is lacking brain power! They are inept and incompetent jackasses!”

    That incompetent jackass called Stinkliar will again be showing his arrogance and asinine stupidity if he again puts off the budget come Tuesday 16th . If he continues in his game of delay and political tic-tac-toe, how does he expect to achieve the fiscal targets set for the current financial year ending march 31, 2015?

    The Guv of the CB inadvertently let the cat out of the bag forcing the MoF to delay the presentation so as to defy the Opposition in his one-upmanship game of political folly. The next window of opportunity available to the fool after the 16th would have to be sometime after Parliament reconvenes in the new year; less than 3 months before the end of the current fiscal year.

    The longer the lying idiot refuses to bring the necessary fiscal measures and to announce (but more importantly implement) further expenditure adjustments to statutory corporations
    the greater would be the pain for the people who will be expected to swallow a larger dose of very real bitter medicine and unfortunately increasing the chances for a double credit rating downgrade thereby putting more serious pressure on the country’s foreign currency peg.

    The man is just one ‘powful-foolish’ jackass that will sink the financial ship of poor Barbados. How can Bajans put up with four years of such blatant fiscal mismanagement and financial ‘ass-holery’ from a boy who hasn’t a clue about decimals or percentages and believes that 1+1 = 11?

  29. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    Excellent, miller!

  30. Grace Fuller Avatar
    Grace Fuller

    The amount of debt Government has on its books has been a hot topic of discussion among economists, accountants and financial analysts for some time. Related articles ON THE LEFT: Liquidity may be the… BEHIND THE HEADLINES: Jamaica’s… THE BIG PICTURE: The economy The longer Barbados’ economy has remained in recession and the wider the fiscal deficit has become, the debate on debt, especially the interest costs, has continued. Given its importance and the related imminent announcement of another fiscal adjustment by Government, BARBADOS BUSINESS AUTHORITY revisits this important issue this week. While officials, including Central Bank Governor Dr DeLisle Worrell, do not think Barbados has a debt problem that should worry the population, Barbados Economic Society president Jeremy Stephen is one individual who differs. In 2014 the economist has voiced primary concern about Government’s short term debt and interest payments. “Short-term debt as a percentage of long term debt grew by 25 per cent over the last fiscal year. What that means is that there is a heavy reliance on short-term debt as we have been hearing about. It shows that there is almost a reversal in terms of new long-term debt coming into Government versus short-term debt,” he said in an analysis on the issue. “Government is relying more on this short term debt than its long-term debt but yet the likelihood of it being able to repay the short term debt without infringing on salaries, without being able to reconcile means that there are severe challenges in convincing not only the international ratings agencies but local investors as well as overseas investors that short-term debt is not as desirable as it once was.” Economist Dr Clyde Mascoll also thinks debt is an increasingly worrying problem for Barbados. At a recent Barbados Chamber of Industry & Commerce discussion he said while the current administration said in 2009 it would cut debt and grow the economy, debt had in fact grown by about $5.3 billion in the last six years, compared to $3.5 billion between 1994 and 2008. “The only way to do it is to set targets for your debt going forward and control those targets. If you control Barbados’ national debt and allow it to grow at five per cent per annum, there can be some implications for growth,” the former Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance said. In its third quarter economic review released in October, the Central Bank said “Barbados’ net public sector debt at end-September was equivalent to 75 per cent of GDP [gross domestic product], up from 67 per cent at the end of last year”. Last month, Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs Chris Sinckler said a major aim of Government’s revised fiscal consolidation programme introduced a year ago was to “eventually cut the growth of the public debt”, while the primary focus was reducing the fiscal deficit to more manageable levels. He said having generally achieved mixed results, Government would have to take additional steps by the time the financial year ended on March 31 given the continuing difficult circumstances. Debt was one of the major concerns that resulted in credit rating agency Moody’s Investor Service giving Barbados a triple notch downgrade in June. At that time, the agency said it was concerned about Barbados “increasing Government debt ratios projected at above 100 per cent of GDP by financial year 2014/15, coupled with elevated short-term debt issuance and gross financing needs in excess of 30 per cent of GDP in 2014 and 2015 – See more at: http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/60075/issue-change-consensus#sthash.fa8QdcGw.dpuf

  31. Grace Fuller Avatar
    Grace Fuller

    BAMC = Staff Not Paid Salaries for November
    BADMC = Staff Not Paid Salaries for November
    BACT = Staff Not Paid Salaries for November
    BCIC = Staff Not Paid Salaries for November

  32. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    Barbados cannot be compared with China, since the Chinese culture and the
    political and economic variables are diametrically opposite.
    Whereas China has a population of approximately 1.35 billion people, Barbados’ population is just under 300,000. Barbados has a democratic society, while communism is the preferred system of government in China. The culture and work ethic embraces this system and policies are structured for the economic benefit of the country.
    Although China has thrived to become known as a “super power”, the system of government continues to suppress the personal liberties of its citizens.

  33. ac Avatar
    ac

    So what do we have now? an economy built on debt alone and which is unsustainable and will never be fixed passing on from one generation to another barbados is not alone all these small island nations are affected in part by not learning a basic lesson of using there natural resources to produce china did it so why was it so hard for small nations to initate.one can easily argue that we as a people lack the courage ! discipline and trust among each other but rather charter a path destined by others.there is no excuse for the economic malaise that small nations find themselves confronted expect a loss of will and desire to charter their own path.

  34. Grace Fuller Avatar
    Grace Fuller

    ac
    All of that only happen after February 2013???????????????????????????

  35. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    NO GRACE IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE THE DEMS TOOK BACK OVER IN 2008
    TO MAKE AN OXYMORON
    THIS GUVMENT IS COMPOSED OF A GROUP OF SUCCESSFUL FAILURES.ah lie?

  36. ac Avatar
    ac

    So are we arguing the point that before 2008 barbados was a debt free economy.? The point being that all the debt and accumulation of high interest could not be sustained especially when the rafters of a one sector economy became unhigned which brings ac back to what EBW had in mind one of an economy built from the knoweldge and skilled of its people resulting in direct ownership and one without a beggar mentality.right now our economy has borrowed and beg to achieve but where is the real source of our achievement owned and in the hands of our creditors

  37. The People's Democratic Congress Avatar
    The People’s Democratic Congress

    Grace Fuller,

    THE TRUTH IS THAT BARBADOS DOES NOT HAVE ANY SERIOUS DEBT PROBLEMS.

    For the writer of the said segment in the said latest edition of the Barbados Business Authority to cite the particular views of Mr Jeremy Stephens and Dr Clyde Mascoll on the subject to support the notion that the country has serious debt problems shows a terrible understanding by him of what is really remuneration debt as opposed to false fictitious fraudulent debt that is almost totally imposed on the relevant individuals by mainly the core financial system.

    The People’s Democratic Congress has evolved so far 14 fundamental principles concerning MONEY and its uses in Barbados.

    Principle 3 states that M or its uses CANNOT give rise to M debt, and Principle 4 states that M CANNOT be used to pay back M debt.

    Having stated such – and without elaboration though – we nevertheless will have to assert – as we did under a recent thread on BU – that money and its uses and financial numbers and figures and their uses by an individual or groups of individuals in the financial system in Barbados do NOT have any causal or non-causal connection with one another sufficient that in and of themselves ( the money, the financial numbers and figures and their uses by the relevant individuals ) will actually lead to any kinds if DEFICITS or DEBTS any where in this country.

    The fact remains too that no matter how much money that is in stock or that is in store or that is temporarily set aside for later uses by the relevant people and that is actually circulated used by any one; and that no matter how many financial numbers and figures that are capable of being generated by persons, computers, etc. whatever the reasons, and that are actually generated, CANNOT CAN NEVER lead to any coming about of any so-called fiscal deficits and the so-called national debt of the government.

    So its is clear that with the nonexistence of the fiscal deficit ( what little expenditures government has CANNOT be linked in any cases with what ever measly remunerations it gets from many others) leaves us to only promulgate that the debt of the government is really tremendously overstated.

    However, the real massive money problem in the country, and in terms of the use of money, is the alarming staggering levels to which the real actual cost of use of money (local) has risen by almost sheer imposition by mainly the core financial system of this country.

    PDC

  38. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    @ Georgie Porgie | December 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM |

    “THIS GUVMENT IS COMPOSED OF A GROUP OF SUCCESSFUL FAILURES. ah lie?”

    Georgie, the jokers in this present administration cannot take full responsibility for the economic woes that are presently confronting Barbados, but they are definitely guilty of exacerbating the problems.

    I refer you to the topic “Health care for all” on page 10 of the DLP’s 2008 election manifesto. The DEMs recoginised the QEH and overall health care facilities were in chaos.
    The manifesto went on to state the DEMS “shared the concerns of the National Union of Public Workers and the members of the Barbados Association of Medical Practitioners over the parlous state of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. Something needs to be done and done quickly at the premier health institution of the country. On the issue of health alone a change of political administration in Barbados would be fully justified.” They also promised “there will be no user-fees for public patients at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.”

    So far, the three ministers of health appointed under this administration [David Estwick, Donville Inniss and John Boyce] have taken a confrontational approach with BAMP, and the problems at the QEH have gotten worse.

  39. David Avatar
    David

    The current state is that the government racked up debt to support a bloated public service. We have not grown the economy. Although there is some signs tourism is picking up our problem is lack of growth/revenue. The discussion now must be how do we action our way out of this mess.

    On Wednesday, 3 December 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  40. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re three ministers of health appointed under this administration [David Estwick, Donville Inniss and John Boyce] have taken a confrontational approach with BAMP, and the problems at the QEH have gotten worse.

    THEY DID NOT CONSIDER MY 2008 PROPOSALS THAT ARE WORKING IN ST LUCIA NOR DID THEY INVITE ME TO COME HELP THEM SOLVE THE PROBLEM

  41. DR. THE HONOURABLE Avatar
    DR. THE HONOURABLE

    PDC ‘s contribution are always well written with proper grammar , good punctuation , correct spelling and seemingly well thought out and well presented ideas. It says that PDC gives in-depth thought and considerations to what is presented. I find this to very impressive and says quite a bit about PDC and the approach to solving the problems that confront this country.
    Keep up the good work PDC!

  42. The People's Democratic Congress Avatar
    The People’s Democratic Congress

    To the person going by the pseudonym, DR THE HONOURABLE,

    First, the PDC wishes to thank the Divine Creator for using us to help spread HIS words of wisdom and understanding to so many others.

    Secondly, we feel exceedingly humbled by your immediately above comments, and wish to express thanks to you for your having made them.

    And thirdly, with the making of such congenial positive comments by you – and the light, tone and temper in which we have seen them presented by you also – there will definitely substantially be greater inspiration and motivation by the PDC to do so much more, politically philosophically and otherwise, for and on the behalf of the people of Barbados and of the wider humanity.

    So, Thanks Again.

    PDC

  43. ac Avatar
    ac

    David

    . The discussion now must be how do we action our way out of this mess.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    By having an educated system that is diversified educating and training people in all areas that fits all the needs of a global community. exhiubit A china///, one can frowned about their lack of human rights but when the global crisis hit all the critics of China even the great USA capitalist were knocking at China’s front door, China rule of thumb was one of having an educated workable force unlike other countries so much so making all an offer which none can refuse,, barbados need to take such a leaf moving them it in a positive direction. ,

  44. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    As I have previously stated, it is ludicrous to compare China with Barbados. I think you should do a bit more research on China’s economic model and the reforms made to its education system over the years. Pushing an agenda you believe in without availing yourself with all the relevant facts will take you in wrong direction.

    China operates under an economic system known as a command or planned economy, whereby the government [as the central authority] is responsible for making decisions relative to production and investment. In other words, market forces [supply and demand] do not determine what commodities are to be produced and how many, or the prices of what is produced, the government does. As such, the current economic recession would not affect China as adversely as it did to other countries operating under the alternative economic systems.

    In 1986 China introduced a compulsory education law, which made it mandatory for all Chinese children to receive an education for a period of 9 years, and it is estimated by the education ministry that 99.7% of the population has received this basic 9 year education. China has made significant investments in education to facilitate a process of reforming the entire system to the extent the country hosts an increasing amount of international students.

    In Barbados, we educate people and then tell them go and look for a job and nothing is done to accommodate “drop outs”, this is not the case in China.
    The new education reforms in the country ensures all citizens have a legal right to higher education and to ensure no student drops out of school because of economic reasons. After graduating, students select their own jobs under the guidance of state policy.

    Surely, one must agree that there are significant differences in both systems.

  45. ac Avatar
    ac

    firstly in your comment you have all but agreed that china has used it education model as a prerequisite for advancing its economy,no one is comparing the largesse of china to barbados,, what is important and significant is the huge dividends for china with an education model plan which has played a great part in reshaping and building its economy.i

  46. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    “firstly in your comment you have all but agreed that china has used it education model as a prerequisite for advancing its economy…”

    I can see you lack reasoning and comprehension skills…… nowhere in my comments have I “agreed that China has used its education model as a prerequisite for advancing its economy.”

    YES, you have to COMPARE. In my comments I have TRIED to explain that Barbados and China have two completely economic and education models. As such, these differences will make it impossible for Barbados to achieve the so called “Barrow vision”, as articulated by you, within the previous and present structures of our economy and political system.

    Barbados is a democracy, whereby Barbadians have FREEDOM TO CHOOSE what subjects they want to learn for entry into tertiary level, what course of study they want to undertake at that level, and what career they want to pursue. Barbadians are also individualistic, in that they pursue careers based on their personal preferences and NOT on the dictates of what the state requires.

    The “Barrow vision” [as you explained] would necessitate a change of our political and economic structures, to a form of communism, where people are FORCED into careers determined by what Barbados requires.

    However, I’ll agree to disagree.

  47. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    Is the author of this article the same BLP yardfowl whose letters are printed almost weekly in the Nation newspaper as “letters to the editor” when they are really originating from Roebuck Street, just asking?

  48. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    @Hamilton Hill
    “These government ministers and public officials make all sorts of statements that go unchallenged by a mainstream media ”
    You need to include the Leader of the opposition on that list.

    Imagine the Leader of the Opposition as usual tried to score cheap political points by holding a press conference after BAMP’s and criticising the QEH for having a 50th anniversary newspaper supplement while currently having budget constraints.
    Can someone educate the “know it all” opposition leader that the newspaper supplement would have been of virtually no cost to the QEH since the advertisers would have paid for the space.

    Of course, the Nation newspaper did nor carry that story from Mottley’s press conference since it was the Nation newspaper that made the money from the supplement.
    I had to read that story in The Advocate. My advice is not to only rely on the Nation BLP newspaper for your news or you will get only their spin on the issue.

  49. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    After the Nation BLP newspaper spent large section of Wednesday Nation (Dec 3, 2014) covering the politically staged walk out by BLP MPS complete with photos, Sanka Price now comes on Thursday, Dec 4 Nation and gives an entire page coverage quoting Mottley on the same issue.
    Only in the Nation BLP newspaper- a newspaper that has lost its soul and Is now the public relations mouthpiece of the BLP.
    How else can one explain giving the BLP official spokesman Mascoll a weekly page to campaign while not seeking to offer the public alternative opinion?
    Fair and balanced just like Fox news.

  50. NationBLPnewspaper Avatar
    NationBLPnewspaper

    Positive News does not sell newspapers so the fact that Barbados is still selected as the Least Corrupt Country In Caricom by Transparency International will not make headlines.
    Can you imagine where that story would have been placed if we were knocked from that number one position?

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