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Submitted by Benny
Deputy COP Seymour Cumberbatch
Deputy COP Seymour Cumberbatch

I wish to congratulate the Police Services Commission (PSC) for the bold stance they have taken in recommending the removal of Mr Dottin from office. I have made numerous calls for some form of sanctioning of Mr Dottin. The members of the Royal Barbados Police is feeling a little relief. However the job is not yet finish.

Mr Dottin’s problem was that he was hand picked by the government of the day to lead the force when he was not equipped with general policing knowledge to adequately fulfil that role. If we cast our minds back we should remember that this was stated by Inspector Anderson Bowen some years ago. The second issue for Mr Dottin was that he attempted to draw on the experience and knowledge of those he assumed he could trust. Little did he know that he was embracing the Devil himself in the person non other than the current acting deputy Mr Seymour Cumberbatch. I will now call on the PSC and the PM. Mr Stuart to complete the job with the immediate suspension of Mr Cumberbatch and an immediate investigation into the second fatal accident for which his brother is responsible.

Mr Cumberbatch transferred the collision reconstructionist Sgt Mayers because the report he submitted was unfavourable to his brother as charges was recommended. Secondly the vehicle driven by his brother was taken to a private garage after the accident instead of being impounded as an exhibit until all mechanical checks were done by the MTW personnel. This vehicle was escorted by Sgt 1051 Cumberbatch himself a questionable character. It is common knowledge that Mr Cumberbatch was always viewed with suspicion among the ranks. He was the S/Sgt in charged of the Major Crime Squad in the 1990s when a number of his juniors were removed from that department by the then COP Mr Durant for corrupt practices. Mr Cumberbatch should recall when the Special duty officer saw him in the late 80s off loading blocks from the then CID land rover M3607. This was after the watchman at the Heywoods Hotel which was under construction reported to District E that this vehicle was seen removing blocks. Mr Cumberbatch has reached a very high rank in this organisation despite always being of suspicious character. It is would be a total mockery of the law and the Royal Barbados that this man should be allowed to use the court system to seek elevation to the rank of DCP whilst at the same time still engaging in corrupt practices. He never had respect for the very law that he swore to uphold and should not be allowed to continue to commit and condone crime.

The removal of Mr Dottin should be followed by the removal of Mr Corrupbatch, it should not be seen as a political vendetta but a matter of cleansing

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71 responses to “No No Seymour Must Go!”

  1. David Avatar
    David

    The question then becomes, how are persons promoted in the police force when question marks hang?

  2. *smh Avatar
    *smh

    The Acting Commissioner was on charges for 7 or 8 years. Something to do with fraud and a police car. He eventually got off on a technicality relating to a matter of law.

    Say what you like about Dottin, but I have never heard so much as a whisper about him and corruption.

  3. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Benny ” the second fatal accident for which his brother is responsible.”

    That ain’t Pusstard’s brother. You mean his second cousin.

  4. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Wait!!! everybody in the Royal Barbados Police Force hate everybody else?

    Why?

    I get the feeling that this bad behaviour is endemic and has been encouraged for years, and years and years. That this behaviour has existed long before this current crop of policemen and politicians were even born

  5. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Benny “the Devil himself in the person non other than the current acting deputy Mr Seymour Cumberbatch. He was the S/Sgt in charged of the Major Crime Squad in the 1990s when a number of his juniors were removed from that department by the then COP Mr Durant for corrupt practices.”

    So the man is corrupt because he weeded out corrupt cops?

  6. David Avatar
    David

    Listen to retired policeman Hartley Reid who should know a thing or two about the force:

    http://bajan.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/untitled.mp3

  7. lol10 Avatar
    lol10

    With so much acrimony among the Police Force, there is no way they can effectively and professionally serve the public. No wonder they have to beat up people and kick down doors to ventilate their frustration.

    They should try cracking a head or two, or shooting several people. That may ease their pain and suffering.

  8. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    David The question then becomes, how are persons promoted in the police force when question marks hang?@ Answer? , the same way Ralph Thorne get QC when many question hang?Because his wife is a Judge and it “Just dont look good for a judge to be married to a just a lawyer?Because QC may have a little more standing to resist charges , and charge more money when title moves up. lawyers does the same things. go figure .
    Better take a good look at who the BLP put in place to carry out cover up and fraud in Barbados. The key spots were covered ,
    Their is still more cleaning to be done.
    If you all stop and think then you will see why Violet Beckles is coming back to Haunt them ALL.
    How can this happen ? Ploice fraud squad hands tied, and the lawyer run ramped with doing as they like , All doors for justice SHUT and shut out who they JUST dont like or just want to rob, ,,,, cops and robbers is the order of the day..Get the broom out , you all still not done,
    There are Ministers that need to be in Jail ,
    Violet Beckles midnight callers were the Dottin and CJ Simmons ,,,,very friendly to here while back stabbing her all the way to the grave .Crane -Scott also need to be looked at with others. lawyers who are not judges.Keep looking

  9. Give us a break Avatar
    Give us a break

    Tell me this iw not what Mottley and Marshall are promoting and fighting tooth and nail for t keep corrupt criminals like Dottin and thiscone Corruptbatch working against the best interest of Barbadians ????:

    i totally agree with the writer of the article all of them want purging and included in that purge should be Mottley for her part is giving directions to Wire Tap the phones of innocent Barbadians she is even more guilty of the crime having been the one who requested the Wire Tapping to be done and who it was to ne done to.

  10. WATCHING Avatar
    WATCHING

    Now that the two criminals gone will the Head of the Bridgetown Divison Johnson go home as he was saying that Dottin got a promotion for him and he aint leaving after spending all his time framing police and got the Btown division on a high level of sick leave. lets hope he take his wobbly friend S/sgt Miss Critchlow with him.

  11. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “The question then becomes, how are persons promoted in the police force when question marks hang?”

    The answer, BLP affiliation.

  12. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    It is better for this Government to pay what ever it has to pay and clean up a lot of these Government agencies.

    Every dept. the crooked BLP government touched it defiled. It is no joke when persons come onto this blog and spoke about the corruption of the Barbados Labour Party.

    Everything it touched turned to lead. This party brought Barbados to a low never seen in this country before.

  13. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @CCC
    You are right that this party is corrupt BUT the other Party is both corrupt and incompetent with NO LEADERSHIP!!!
    Tom, Errol, Grantley, Cammie MUST BE spinning like a top in their graves watching how their brilliant foundation has been damaged by these jokers!!

  14. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Moneybrain…………it has always been nastiness and corruption, it was an open secret, the only new deal is that people have more courage to speak of it openly so that everyone can understand the dynamics involved…both political parties have always been a pox (blight) on the island. All of this runs very deep and they are interchangeable, small wonder neither side can do much to stem the tide of s*** that is now rolling downhill upon them….HA!!

  15. checkit-out Avatar
    checkit-out

    Moneybrain; No truer words spoken on this blog. Net off corruption and go from there.

  16. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    A lot more disclosure is needed in Barbados. A lot of people got to where they are base on friendship, nepotism, underhandedness, and never by merit. Years of silence, fear, and hush up tactics has led to where we are.

  17. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    What happening Hindsie man….you very quiet!
    …that is not like you LOL

    Nice to hear ya!

  18. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    You are 100% correct AH
    Today it is quite the norm for many to lie down to get up!

  19. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Bushie

    Like you din hear from Sarge….the German Panza tanks rolling and we Poles pun the blog better start trembling in we boots…whaloss!

  20. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Barbados is a market … It has always been. Markets only have one responsibility to be considered useful, and that is to buy … irrespective the nature of what is on sale … even if it packaged shit, den …! Political parties don’ owe none ah wunna squat … They are playing the same game as any other business entity in Bim, and like so many of their clan, they rely on deception to survive.

    Now which among the clan will blow the whistle …huh … the media houses? … Will any of these business operations that purport to employ “journalists” be willing to draw the scorn of the other members of the brethren and lose advertising revenue … huh?

    For those who are taken in by the deception, normal business practice will appears as example of corruption.

    Politics is NOT “the art of the possible”, it is a business model …!

  21. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    Bim MUST institute Strict Integrity Legislation and triple ( quintuple???) the MPs Salaries!
    Tripling+ salaries is both to compensate for corruption income and to ATTRACT the best and cleverest to political management.
    In Singapore MPs are making $1MN +, BUT if they transgress jail looms very large!

  22. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @Baffy
    I agree with the point U are driving at here, BUT there is a massive factor that none of us should neglect and that is POLITICAL LEADERSHIP is achieved via Elections by the Peeps and for the Peeps, BUT business leadership is not part of any elective process!

    The Political and Judicial Systems MUST be designed and practiced with utmost integrity or the Nation will always be divided against itself. How else will Bim make serious progress?

  23. pieceuhderockyeahright!!! Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright!!!

    With any major operation it is critical that the patient is in good enough health before any major surgery.

    What does that mean with regard to what seems to be an endemic problem across our public sector?

    What we do acknowledge is that there are issues and cancers across and within our many government agencies but what we need to manage is the removal of these problems in a way that is not going to cause the very system that we are seeking to save, to implode.

    For every legitimate issue and need to get rid of these parasites and crooks, there will be those who will encourage witch hunts and purging that is only based on their personal vendettas.

    So for example, if I did not like Bertie Hinds because he insisted that I button my police tunic and not bare my chest hairs while on duty,I can just as easily say that Bertie tief brick from Miss Ram or some other contrived offense

    How do we address this problem, do we do so easily over the course of time or is it to be a radical excision, I certainly can’t say, but I do suggest that we tread easily

  24. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    Well said Well Well @ All the She-it hitting them at one time ,

  25. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Money

    Can’ argue wid that … But you know fully that “integrity” is only a buzz word in the world of business … It in actuality translates to “What one could get away with … The universal rule in business, and you must know this, is “do not get caught …!” HA HA HA.

    Look these entities “exploit” as Pacha would attest to, and that can NEVER be a healthy practice; and to be successful, as you have demonstrated, Money, requires a special layer of scales. If you are straight up honest to the core, business … read politics, church, contracting, retailing, media and the rest … is NOT for you

    HA HA HA

  26. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    Good point peiceahderock….

    But remember that Caswell does occasionally spray the baygon on the beloved house pets….
    ….if they sickly and ‘doing poorly’ they may even die like the termites, but strong healthy pets (like strong healthy ABLE leaders should be) will just shrug off the little spray and move on with the job….

    …nobody ever said that leadership was a cake walk. In fact that has been our downfall – thinking thus….

  27. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Bush Tea, I do more reading than commenting these days. 🙂 You and GP are usually right on the money. 🙂

  28. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @Baffy
    The only thing more crooked than Business is Law/ Politics and naturally the reason is Greed—-Power/ Money!
    Indeed, we need to reform Politics to limit the dominance of the Legal Profession ie there should be a maximum limit of all professional backgrounds, say no more than 25 from each.

  29. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    Agree , Evey lawyer wants to be a Minister , So they may look for ways to help their bank accounts , Now all being lawyers ,no one telling on each other for they are all BAR members , So the Government is at a stand still , As they all crook the public from in side the House .

  30. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “9/24/2012

    By Stephen Alleyne

    Tomorrow the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Mr. Bertie Hinds, will say goodbye to the men and women of the Royal Barbados Police Force as his more than 44 years’ service in the 177-year-old organisation comes to an end.

    Undoubtedly, the majority of the force’s members will wish him well in his future endeavours. A few, it is expected, will not spare the time even to pay lip-service to the veteran police officer’s contribution to the force and his country. Will Commissioner Darwin Dottin condescend to do so? I don’t think so. It is virtually impossible for Dottin to have anything positive to say about a deputy with whom he has had a tumultuous relationship for the past nine years. The enmity between the two highest-ranking officers in the force is what, to my mind, has precipitated the gaping division and low morale evident in the organisation today, but there are a number of other contributing factors.

    In a previous article I identified the breaking-point in the organisation as early as 1999 when the decision was taken by the Police Service Commission to make Dottin senior to Vernon Wilkinson and Hinds, both of whom were senior to Dottin at the time, on their promotion to the rank of Assistant Commissioners of Police.

    However, the force underwent a metamorphosis under Dottin’s leadership. Officers of all ranks for whatever reason, and the evidence is available, became the focus of a phone-tapping campaign, the object of which is still somewhat vague. The evidence nevertheless suggests that the exercise was to determine their political affiliation rather than any involvement in criminal conduct or corrupt practices. For example, certain members of the Police Service Commission, Deputy Commissioner Hinds, former Senior Superintendent Graham Archer, former Senior Superintendent Morgan Greaves and a number of junior officers who performed duties with Members of Parliament were the principal targets.

    At the same time, a number of things considered integral to the development of the force ground to a halt. For example, this Commissioner of Police, described by Opposition Member of Parliament Dale Marshall as one of the finest police officers in the Caribbean, has not convened an annual force conference since 2008. A force conference is the forum where the rank and file are given the opportunity to make their contribution to the force’s policy. The result is that the rank and file have been silenced and the feeling among the junior ranks is that Dottin has effectively thwarted any potential confrontation with them.

    As far as discipline is concerned, the disciplinary tribunal (the Commissioner) has met once between July 2011 and July 2012. Under former Commissioners Orville Durant and Grantley Watson, the tribunal heard matters once or sometimes twice a month as the exigencies required. Generally, police officers who have outstanding disciplinary matters hanging over their heads are not promoted once those matters remain unheard. Dottin’s failure to hear disciplinary matters in a timely manner has therefore denied, and continues to deny, several police officers of promotion.

    Then there is the problem of the issue of firearm licences. When Dottin became Commissioner of Police he established a three-man committee to determine the issuance of firearm licences, removing the discretion to grant or refusal of licences from one person alone. This was a good decision in that it brought fairness and transparency to the process. However, the committee seldom meets and the consequence is that applicants have been paying their application fees to the police department and have not been getting the service they paid for.

    I have said all of the above to sketch the kind of force Mr. Hinds is leaving behind as he takes leave. Sadly, there are still quite a number of officers who would not want him to go at a time when the force is at its lowest ebb. He is perceived by many to be the one person who can keep the ship on course. Unfortunately, the ship’s navigational equipment has long malfunctioned, and it is going to take more than GPS (Global Positioning System) to bring it back on course. This is a task for younger heads.

    I have known Bertie Hinds for a long time; we patrolled the beat together 35 years ago as constables, and in the early 80s we reunited when we were transferred to work in what used to be the Traffic Branch. Hinds excelled in academia and would have received the bulk of his promotions during the tenure of Commissioner Durant who rewarded officers who did exceptionally well academically. The holder of a master’s degree in criminology, Hinds for the past four years has been lecturing part-time in criminal justice and criminology at the Cave Hill Campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI). And this too was abhorred by his Commissioner who tried to frustrate him by failing to submit his application to do private work as required by the rules of the Public Service.

    In closing I want to wish Mr. Hinds well and urge him to continue lecturing at the UWI which will keep a fertile mind well nurtured. Lest I forget, I am well aware that there are some senior people in the force (some past ones as well) who have been quietly critical about some of the comments I make in this space concerning the goings-on in the organisation. I want to state publicly that the critics are welcome to reply orally or they can pen their responses in this paper under a pseudonym if they lack the guts to state their real names.

    (Stephen Alleyne is an attorney-at-law and former member of the Royal Barbados Police Force. E-mail: swalleyne@hotmail.com)”

    Often times it is good to go back and read some old articles. It is also good to repost them before people forget.

  31. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Plantation…….you got that, everyone wants be a lawyer now there are 22 in the house of parliament and not one of them has the mental acuity to move the island away from it’s present predicament, they have been focused for too long on self.

  32. Common sense is not common Avatar
    Common sense is not common

    Carson Cadogan

    You have done a great service to those of us on this blog site who genuinely seek to determine the truth and who are interested in fairplay.

    The Columnist Stephen Alleyne did not write anonymously but under his own name.He has made some rather frightening statements and as far as I can recall there has been no public denial by Dottin.We should keep in mind stephen alleyne is a former police officer and a lawyer.

    Some things stood out in my mind from that article:
    1. Stephen Alleyne has confirmed what ‘give me a break’ has been posting – that Dottin regularly did tap into the phones of persons,in this he spoke specifically of senior police officers and even junior ones;and the sole intention for Dottin wire tapping their phones was to find out which political party they are supporting;
    If as has been suggested he was deliberately placed in the position of COP by mia to do her bidding, it would follow that the tapping was to determine who the DLP sympathisers in the Police Force were.

    2.Again Stephen Alleyne established and it has never been challenged that he was not the best person for the job nor the person next in line and therefore supersession was involved.

    3.He operated like a dictator by refusing to call annual force conferences where the junior police officers could address issues.

    4.He also operated in a spiteful way by refusing to hold disciplinary meetings so police officers charged could not have their matters heard and therefore could not be promoted.

    It is disgraceful to watch mia mottley,dale marshall and all the BLPites tring to create fear and hysteria but I am hoping that this matter goes to court and all the nasty information comes out.
    In the absence of any reliable information contradicting this information,I am with Stephen Alleyne on this one.

    Once again thank you Carson Cadogan for going back into your files and producing this article which was written only last September.

  33. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    I messaged Dale Marshall the follwing on Facebook on August 19th 2012

    I listen to your speech at the meeting in St.thomas/st.James. Do you think your comments were an accurate portrayal of events leading up to the current empasse in the RBPF?

    How do you respond to the following? Will you be responding to Stephen Alleyne?

    Under Scrutiny: Force tension

    How do you respond to the following? Will you be responding to Stephen Alleyne?

  34. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Under Scrutiny: Force tension
    8/13/2012
    By Stephen Alleyne
    Last week I promised I’d refrain from making any comments about the High Court action brought by the 15 police officers against the Police Service Commission (PSC) challenging their exclusion from promotion, but I couldn’t allow Dale Marshall’s invective against the PSC in certain sections of the media to escape scrutiny.
    In his capacity as Shadow Minister of Home Affairs in the Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP), Marshall, in calling on the Commissioner of Police to “say something”, has, in a release appearing in both printed and online newspapers, asserts that “[f]rom the day after the election (January 15, 2008 General Election), the force became completely politicised, with breaches in the chain of command, tension between the Police Service Commission and the leadership of the force, resulting in such things as specious and preposterous charges being brought against the Commissioner”. Obviously armed with many of the details in terms of the number of persons recommended for promotion, which must touch and concern the trial presently before the court, he accuses the PSC of wrestling the management of the force from the capable hands of the Commissioner and rejecting one-third of his recommendations.
    From a strict reading of the above quote, Marshall is saying that from January 16, 2008 there was tension between the PSC and the leadership of the force; thus, he is not only lambasting the present PSC, but the previous PSC which was appointed by the Governor General on the advice of former Prime Minister Owen Arthur, after consultation with the Leader of the Opposition. To my knowledge the Arthur-recommended PSC remained in office for another year after the 2008 General Election. To also say in the release that the tension in the force started in 2008, Marshall is confirming that as Attorney General until 2008 he wasn’t in tune with what was happening in the force. I’d be surprised if his party colleague Mia Mottley, the Attorney General he succeeded, would support him on this one.
    Marshall clearly doesn’t understand the culture in force, so he needs to be apprised.
    For Marshall’s information, the disquiet in the force started long before January 16, 2008. A pall of uneasiness and ill-will is always cast over the organisation the moment promotions are in the air, but the breaking-point, in my view, was about 1999 when the force was undergoing a transition at the top. That year, Senior Superintendent Vernon Wilkinson and the present Commissioner of Police, Darwin Dottin, were promoted to the rank of Assistant Commissioner of Police with effect, I think, from December 15, and Bertie Hinds, the present Deputy Commissioner, was promoted to the same rank with effect from January 1, 2000. This set of promotions effectively made Dottin senior to Hinds, but, Wilkinson, because of his date of enlistment in the force, remained senior to Dottin. The anecdote is told of how these three individuals appeared at a meeting and as Wilkinson was preparing to sit in the order of seniority to Dottin, he was told to hold his horses that something else may be coming. Days later, Commissioner Grantley Watson received another letter from the PSC which made Dottin senior to Wilkinson by 15 days.
    Dottin later became Deputy Commissioner of Police to Commissioner Watson and on Watson’s retirement he became Commissioner. Another event that poured fuel on the fire in the force was the fact that in October 2003 Wilkinson had long indicated that he was going on pre-retirement with effect from October 2003 and days before he proceeded he received a letter from the PSC informing him that he was acting as Deputy Commissioner of Police indefinitely. Dottin, I’m told, called Wilkinson and Hinds to his office, read the letter and told them that that was what the PSC had decided. Wilkinson would have none of it, because he thought it was unfair to Hinds, and he went on leave. Hinds then acted as Deputy Commissioner of Police for several months before he was appointed. Ever since the force has not been the same, because Dottin and Hinds are seldom ad idem on important administrative matters concerning the force. Hence, a number of events have conspired to create the tensions in the force under the BLP regime, and these tensions have not been eliminated by the Democratic Labour Party’s.
    I have also noted that Marshall has called for the resignation or dismissal of the members of the PSC, questioning their motives. But is that enough to call for the removal of a body that is presumed to be independent of the executive, the judiciary and the legislature? The members of service commissions, like Judges of the Supreme Court, can only be removed from office for inability to discharge the functions of the office or for misbehaviour. Of course, the implication of Marshall’s whole discourse is that the political interference in the force of which he speaks is coming from the PSC although he hasn’t mentioned a shred of evidence to support his claim. It would be interesting to see how the members of the present PSC deal with these allegations.
    The truth is that even if the BLP wins the next General Election, the present members of the PSC are going to be in office for about another two years unless they decide to resign or it can be shown that they misbehaved.
    (Stephen Alleyne is an attorney-at-law and former member of the Royal Barbados Police Force. Email: swalleyne@hotmail.com)

  35. Give us a break Avatar
    Give us a break

    Very well said Common Sense, to reinforce my point and your point,
    However, the force underwent a metamorphosis under Dottin’s leadership. Officers of all ranks for whatever reason, and the evidence is available, became the focus of a phone-tapping campaign, the object of which is still somewhat vague. The evidence nevertheless suggests that the exercise was to determine their political affiliation rather than any involvement in criminal conduct or corrupt practices. For example, certain members of the Police Service Commission, Deputy Commissioner Hinds, former Senior Superintendent Graham Archer, former Senior Superintendent Morgan Greaves and a number of junior officers who performed duties with Members of Parliament were the principal targets.

    At the same time, a number of things considered integral to the development of the force ground to a halt. For example, this Commissioner of Police, described by Opposition Member of Parliament Dale Marshall as one of the finest police officers in the Caribbean, has not convened an annual force conference since 2008

  36. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Dale Marshall’s reply to me on Facebook….

    Dale Marshall
    Adrian, I don’t propose to enter into a debate with Mr. Alleyne. I believe that the facts as I outlined them are accurate. But what is most telling is that even if Mr. Alleyne’s version were true, what is undeniable is that in no disciplined force, can the governing entity permit a subordinate officer to de-stabilise the organisation. To act on the recommendations of a subordinate officer sets a precedent that opens a pandora’s box.
    What happens when a Station Sergeant decides to countermand an Inspector of police? or a Sergeant does the same to an Assistant Commissioner? Or a constable to a sergeant? In those circumstances, the force would become ungovernable!
    Let him deny that it is wholly improper for Hinds to approve Vybz Cartel performing in barbados, when the Commissioner publicly refused that permission? Let him deny that the PSC brought specious charges against the commissioner?
    He asserts that the unrest started under the BLP. If that is true, then it speaks wonders about the ability of the barbados Labour party to hold a force together and maintain discipline with all that going on. It speaks wonders about a government that completely transformed the working conditions of the RBPF at a time when Alleyne says there was total unrest. Under our watch, there was no insubordination; there was no with-hunt against Hinds, Morgan Greaves, Leonard Broomes and so many others. We believed then and still do, that ALL Barbadians deserve to work in their professions and to get satisfaction from so doing, regardless of their political persuasion.
    Thanks for tuning in and following the issue.
    Dale

  37. Common sense is not common Avatar
    Common sense is not common

    Adrian Hinds & Give Me a Break

    Thank you to the 2 of you as well,especially you Adrian with that facebook posting.

    I wish the whole of Barbados could read the information you all are providing because it would shine a bright light on the mischief afoot in the BLP and those in the media who are aiding and abetting and pushing propoganda regarding this Dottin matter.

    The sad thing in all of this is the number of super qualified,dedicated police officers who left because they could not deal with the rot happening under Dottin.

    This Barbados Labour Party is solely responsible for setting back this country and tearing down the wholesome traditions in institutions.

    We only have to look at the unprecented decision to put a sitting politician as head of the Judiciary in David Simmons thus completely blurring the lines between the executive,legislative and Judiciary.
    Who do that – Owen and the BLP.

    Then we had a sleuth of questionable judicial appointments who according to legal beagle ‘Amused’ some of which have created and are continuing to create a
    royal mess in the courts.Their one common thread is they are all supporters of the BLP.Independence of the judiciary my big toe.

    Who do that -Owen and the BLP.

    Then we had the former CJ having his wife placed as a Judge while he was Chief Justice.Apart from the fact that Amused and others told us she left a mess at the Registry,but she demonstrated no competence to hold that job.
    After she left we now have a judge in Jacqueline Cornelius who did very little practical work being given a judgeship with her husband being elevated as Q.C and he is the lawyer of choice in all matters involving the Dottin -prefered police officers and in matters against the government.I wonder if there is any pillow talk at nights.

    Who do that – Owen and the BLP.

    Caswell is on record as saying here on this blog site that BLP sympathisers were placed in high positions in the civil service,especially as permanent secretaries. We also had the spectre of giving inducements under the politics of inclusion to lure weak and greedy opponents,starting the practice of the payment for votes at election time,using the Town & Country sign off and approval as the minister in charge as a weapon to get bribes.

    It will take years for us to remove the damage done to our instituitions and to the physce of our people.

    Even during the last elections and after,it is clear a large segment of the society believe that once the BLP is in they can get easy ‘money in dey pockets’.

    The BLP has done enormous damage and it will take more than this current DLP politicians to cure this,because at least one person’s name in this DLP government keeps coming up as being in suspicious activity.

    Change must come,but from where and from whom, is the millionaire dollar question.

  38. David Avatar
    David

    @Common Sense

    David Simmons was not a sitting politician when appointed CJ but we get the idea.

  39. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Wait David … You mean he resign the AG post a week before the CJ appointment then …?

  40. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    “The Prime Minister has made me an offer that I cannot refuse …”

  41. David Avatar
    David

    @Baf

    Correct!

  42. DR. THE HONOURABLE Avatar
    DR. THE HONOURABLE

    Dottin is a clown

    He should have left long time ago. He knew the DLP was out to get him.Why did he stick around is a musyery

    He was suffering from degreesitis

    Some People are going to the University and getting degrees and coming back with ‘attitude’, bad attitude, fart frighten and throwing their weight around and behaving like –well -Clowns creating a lot of problems and not in their own businesses but confusing government offices and agencies

  43. DR. THE HONOURABLE Avatar
    DR. THE HONOURABLE

    musyery is extreme mystery

  44. Gabriel Tackle Avatar
    Gabriel Tackle

    Was not Darwin Dottin Commandant of the Regional Police Training Centre?
    If yes why would he not be au courant with ‘general policing’,whatever that is.And who was driving the Police Bus out of Sandy Lane a night without lights in the late 50’s,and a certain newspaperman wrote about the load of building materials on board said bus.And why do bajans wash their mouth on a certain member and,a former member of the Force who they say qualify for the olympic fencing team.As Sir Roy observed”the rule of law can be easily adjusted to become the rule of lawlessness”

  45. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    Common sense is not common@ We agree with your words.
    We have the Fix, for We have the Deeds.

    Well Well.@ their is not enough tax payer money to go around the 22 lawyers pocket , to many feeding in a small dish.So now they have to fight lololol, they may have to do work for their 6000 pay each month.
    The real party is over.

  46. David Avatar
    David

    Is the CoP on record explaining why he never saw it necessary to hold a police conference? Was it a retaliatory move to how the PSC was treating him?

  47. Fedup Bajan Avatar
    Fedup Bajan

    You talk about Mr. Dottin being hand pick for the job by the previous government but what about Mr. Tryone “typie” Griffith from the blue corner in St. Lucy? He was promised the job as Commissioner by the current government so that so that he was the only Assistant Commissioner that would not apply for the deputy Commissioner position because the current political masters promised him the job. This is a guy who was suspended for beating a junior member of the force. Now what message are you sending to the junior members of the force when you give the job of Commissioner to a vagabond.
    How can the government not allow the Commissioner to sit in on interviews for the post of Deputy Commissioner but allow an acting Commissioner to sit in on the interviews.

    Something is not right and I wonder if this is a calculated move to have someone from the blue corner in the position of Commissioner so that when the polictical masters ready to call out the force to “crack some heads and shoot some people” that they would get a favourable response

  48. David Avatar
    David

    @Fedup Bajan

    You need to apply commonsense. Why would the PSC allow Dottin to sit on the interview panel if the paperwork to remove him was being processed? Agree with you that it diminished the office of the CoP. Why couldn’t the PSC delay the interview for Dep Commissioner?

  49. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Common sense is not common | June 21, 2013 at 4:31 PM
    “Then we had a sleuth of questionable judicial appointments who according to legal beagle ‘Amused’ some of which have created and are continuing to create a
    royal mess in the courts.Their one common thread is they are all supporters of the BLP.Independence of the judiciary my big toe.”

    What you have written encapsulates the symptoms of a rotten corrupt incestuous society based on small-minded values tainted with vile political infestation of termite proportions.

    Are you claiming that the judges elected during the political administration of the BLP were chosen solely because of their known support for or sympathy towards that political party or its leaders?

    Well, if you are, you are directly casting serious sinister aspersions and questioning the integrity of not only the GG but the then leader(s) of the Opposition.
    Are you saying that the Leader of the Opposition colluded and contrived to politicize the judiciary and to dilute the quality of justice?

    Are you saying that any judge, including the CJ, appointed to the bench during the last 5 years could also be tarnished by the same process being followed as outlined in the following extract of the Constitution?

    “81. (1) The Chief Justice and other Judges of the Supreme Court
    shall be appointed by the Governor-General, by instrument under the
    Public Seal, on the recommendation of the Prime Minister after
    consultation with the Leader of the Opposition.”

  50. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Miller
    …sometimes you like you does forget to take your tablets yuh.

    Skippa, EVERYBODY (except apparently you) know that the GG is merely a rubber stamp of what the government- which is now the same as the Cabinet- which is essentially the same as the Prime Minister, wants……. Even ac knows this.

    …as to consultation with the LOTO….that is basic semantics…..CONSULTATION. It essentially means that you tell him/her before the public 🙂

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