What is Mottleyism?

Submitted by Gary Cole


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Mia Mottley, Leader of the Opposition

I am going to give a detailed account of what I think is the psychology and motivation of Mia Mottley. I cannot be one hundred per cent accurate, psychology is not an exact science but for those of you that will like to read my book Boys in the Band you can click the link and read a limited preview online at Googlebooks – Or you can visit my mother’s official website In that book we argue explicitly this:

“The private lives of public officials are subject to the morality of the office they hold. Adultery, homosexuality and prostitution are the age-old partners in crime. If there is evidence of the subjection of high office to any of these vices then the private lives of public officials cannot be ignored.” This article will seem remorseless in its attack on Mia, but in terms of elections, I have already argued in my previous post why Mia is key. Here is the reason why she is key, and an exposition on the term you use against her – Mottleyism.

Before I go on I must tell you a bit of myself with reference to Mia. My mother Angela Cole and Mia’s mom and dad, Eliot and Amor, were the best of friends, when I was a boy. Amor would hold great parties and I grew always overhearing my mom and Amor, who is not a Mottley, having long conversations on the phone, as friends do, and they were very close friends, so much so that I came to regard Amor as some kind of mother removed. She was a very loving caring woman, and I suppose she still is today, and what I say is in no means disrespect to her or my mother, to which I have for personal reasons come to a kind of falling out, but this is politics and this is the nation.

That was before my mothers fall from grace, which was just the result of my mother wanting out of some horrible nasty things. Carlton Brathwaithe, who was my mom’s partner, and lived together as man and wife, and through his divorce from his first wife, asked my mother many times to marry him, but she wouldn’t, and who I regarded as a father, is a very amoral man. And this hurts to say from a boy who considered him a father to a man who treated me as a son.

People may not know Carlton Brathwaithe and all the schemes he dreamed up with Roll, because that was a different time, but when people mention Errol, I see a different person, we lived with him in our house, know one of his two sisters well, and the woman he lived his last 17 years with remained a close friend and confidant of my mother, the Belgium expat Jeanine Chipalato. Errol would always lately quarrel with Jeanine, after my mothers fall from grace, for talking to Angela, he considered my mother a close friend turn nemesis, the worse kind of enemy, but my mom could track his every move – he would step out the house and Jeanine would call my mother. So I know the DLP party process intimately, and was always close to the DLP, and naturally see why I would support David, but this is how it relates to Mia, dating back to when she first got involved in politics. But first the story begins with Mia’s grandfather, Ernest Deighton Mottley.

I think there is more political experience coursing in the genes of Mias blood than the whole of the BLP put together. She is the man who would be king, and sometimes belief and conviction count more than ability, acumen, and intelligence. I am not saying the BLP are stupid, but Mia is making up her own mind, to do what her grandfather couldn’t do, and that is take over and destroy the BLP of Grantley Adams. That doesn’t mean the end of the BLP it just means it has been taken oven by its antithesis the heir to the planter association and the electors society of Ernest Mottley.

Some people say Mottley was a good man some people say he was a bad man, but even the people who say he was a good man say he was a ruthlessman. And his ruthlessness scared Grantley. Mottley’s ruthlessness terrorized my family, and I think to this day with the exception of my mother kept my family out of politics and in the boardrooms and in the background of the civil service. And my family accuses Ernest Mottley of nothing less than the demise of Allen Brown the father and grandfather of my aunt and cousins, who played cricket for Barbados, but was a godfather in the association of Ernest Mottley.

Ernest Mottley started out as a lowly tout, with no reputation and a shaded background in the united states where he was said to have to be involved in the old profession before he eventually came to resettle in Barbados. He was the son of Walter “Jube” Reece and it makes no sense me repeating what my mother has so beautifully written, but yes which I also wrote along with her – but this is her writing, and this is her story…

“Walter Walton Reece, Q.C. was District Grand Master of the Scottish Fraternity of Masons. He was the son of H. Walter Reece and born in 1897, the Jubilee year of the late Queen Victoria, and thus his nickname was Jube. He was an astute, handsome, popular, quick-witted with eyes of steel and completely untrustworthy. He was nine years older than Sissy. He was elected to the House of Assembly as a Member for St. Michael in 1930 and was E.K. Walcott, the Attorney General’s junior. He worked as Solicitor General, was a good lawyer but politically corrupt. He appeared to be Allan’s best friend, but the relationship was for his own wants. He was twelve years younger than Allan and was also a member of Spartan’s Club. Jube needed Allan. Clennel Wickham, the writer for the Herald Newspaper in the 30’s described him despite his hail-well-met manner as subtle, dangerous, below contempt and caring only for his own ends. He behaved as he pleased and cared not for nor about public opinion. He acknowledged his black blood in order to manipulate the electorate but tried to put fourteen-year-old children out of elementary school. His routine was to leave work on afternoons and drop a man called Lyden Goring in Eagle Hall. He knew Barbados and Barbadians very well and was no more than a guttersnipe. He eventually lost his seat.

“Do not trust him.” Maude warned her daughter when “Rugged” Mottley came to the house with Jube. She kept him in the kitchen. “Where he belongs.” Rugged was the son of Jube’s father and Miss Skinner, his maid, from Hothersal Turning. He looked like a dark version of Jube. The mother and child were shipped out to America. How he got the name Mottley and what he did in the States are a mystery. He returned to Barbados in the mid 30s. Officially there is not much written about Mottley, not his mother’s name or who his father was. His obituary reads: “Like most Barbadians he /Mottley] returned to his old home bringing with him an air of worldliness and youthful sophistication and this at once brought him a following of youngsters.’ Rugged was a pimp when he first returned and the youngsters spoken of were the young girls and boys he supplied to mainly the white and wealthy gamblers. He married and kept a stable of young girls from whom he had many children. His obituary continues: ‘He was popular and soon entered his first business with the Brighton Club on Brighton Beach. Club life was given a much-needed fill up and so Mottley attained the status of a man about town.

Closely connected with the Reece family of lawyers, he soon acquired a deep knowledge of the social and political life of Barbados. He exchanged club life for real estate. Values were changing and the land hunger that was quite noticeable made his effort a successful financial proposition. It kept him in the swing of things political because of the anxiety of small landowners to get past the Registration Officer and have their names added to the three thousand voters list with an unchallengeable land qualification. This was the key to Mottley ‘s success. He knew everybody and everybody knew him so that when he hoisted his own political banner he found ready support. Sugar suffered one of its many setbacks and plantations as well as tenantries and small lots were sold and Mottley was in the thick of things. During this time he had been assisting in the political campaigns of members for the House of Assembly and the Vestry.”

Mottley was not allowed into decent drawing rooms. He attached himself to Jube and began touting. A barrister’s tout is described in the “Wayside Sketches” of the 30s as ‘Our tout usually attaches himself to one (and sometimes more than one) of our barristers and plays the role which the pilot fish takes the shark to its victims. He may often be seen browsing in the courtyard and with a vast army of people always eager to ‘ha up’ somebody. Blessed with a conniving manner, very often he supplements his income by making out documents and complaints.”

Later Mottley become the first political tout, touting for Jube and the Electoral Association. With the lowering of the franchise in the thirties, the white planters formed the Electoral Association to counteract the newly formed Progressive League, and used Mottley to secure black votes. He sold land to selected people allowing them to be registered as voters provided they joined his association and voted for its candidates.

Now this is a personal and autobiographical story my mother is writing and she is saying many things but for the moment forget about Jube Reece and settle on what she is saying about Mottley, and understand that what Mottley brought into black Barbadian politics is the very heart of ruthlessness, immorality, amorality, a political movement associated with the mob in the united states that became known in the 30s as syndicalism. That is running a country like a criminal syndicate, and this is what I think Mia will drag the country completely into without her even knowing it if she takes hold of the party and establishes her rule, her destiny.

And it doesn’’t have to be that way. Grantley wasn’t that way, he became more removed from the people after becoming prime minister and Errol was able to snatch the government from him, but Errol too was not like that. And he did a great many things to me and my mother, but he wasn’t like Mottley. Now Tom I think suffered as his father did as a child with being pushed too hard into his father’s footsteps, and it changed him, and made him a ruthlessman, but it was a ruthless born of ambition. This is important enough for a nation to know. Mottley marks a departure from the kind of politics that has always been mainstream Barbados. This is another essay to explain what I mean by Barbadian main stream politics, but it relates back to Samuel Jackman Prescod, who is on the face of our dollar bill.

If Mia gets to be prime minister she will first rehabilitate her grandfather, perhaps he will be on the next change in currency, she will attempt to erase the truth that Grantley and Errol knew about, these the national heroes in our country. And this is why Owen remains to the conservative center of her, as long as he rules in the name of Grantley, Tom, and Errol, she is neutralized. But Owen is going down the way how all leaders go down after they remain in power so long, the knives come, and people are waiting their chance…he cant pretend to be this benevolent grandad of politics in the image of the great prime ministers, with his party getting out of line and Mia waiting in the shadows to complete the Motley revolution. My mom always used to say that Eliot used to like to watch, and that Elombe felt that Eliot had everything because he was illegitimate, and I think politically when Elliot started handling all the drug cases he was doing a disservice to his daughter if she went into politics, and then I realized no – that’s the Mottley way.

And I told you before how to attack Mia, on the issue of homosexuality and Lesbianism; a friend of mine ran a gay bar and my girlfriend worked behind the bar and at the table, and it was a nice atmosphere, Buddies it was called, right there in Hastings. And I’m straight I’m not gay, I don’t know what it feels like to be gay, but I have a great many friends who were gay and are gay, and they have rights and they are people too. And things may not be as bad as in Jamaica where gays are killed and the police don’t even investigate, and out of which the music of gay hatred spews out, and country after country in the civilized world have to ban them from performing and their music from playing because they recognize the message of hatred..kill a gay…They say it in their songs and we as a nation are content to watch our child play and listen to these messengers of hate – and think it doesn’t make a difference. If Barbados had decent laws protecting the rights of gay and lesbian couples, establishing their rights for civil partnership, and brought itself in tune with the civilized world on this issue, we could stand as an example to Jamaica and not be satisfied to accept its export of hate. And that might shame Jamaica. But enough of that, if you pressure Mia to take the lead on this, and say to her I know I am putting you on the spot but look what good it will do for your kind, she will betray her kind for votes, she’ll say Barbados isn’t ready, its a conservative country. And then you ask ..So you expect to be prime Minister still? And you will have neutralized her, and still have the conservative center, but done it one a principle, and people will respect you for it, gay and homosexual have every bit of rights and heterosexuals.

So when I used to see Mia, we knew each other and she’d say hello Gary, and hello Mia, and I detected a kind of relief in her that she felt she could be herself, and I respect her for it, and to tell you the truth I would advise David to try every means to get her over to the DLP, and bury her hatchet with Errol and make a good woman out of her, because she is the best politician in Barbados, but you have to understand her flaws and that you just can’t take the Mottley out of the child, he was really horrible man. I know some may disagree but I had a family member who suffered at the hands of Mottley and his crew over land and property, and I direct you to George Lamming’s book in the castle of my skin and show you how the great land theft in Carrington’s village, the murder threats form Mottley and the association to steal the land from the people, literally ran him as a young boy away from the thought of growing up in Barbados.

Nuff said

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88 comments

  • Interesting information. Interesting psychological thesis Sir. Are you a psychologist?

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  • No i am a writer, and you probably dont know it but literature and psychology are one and the same, i direct you to here (Shibboleths@googlegroups.com), and you will see how the UWI literature department introduces the study of psychology – lacan, deluse, foucault, derridda, de bevoiur, to its undergrad and post-grad students, and that on the continent literature and psychology are studied as one – by the way i think you are confusing psychiatry with psychology or psycho-analysis invented by Sigmund Freud. And you use social psychology every day in politics in the study of polls, in the analysis of trends, in the creation of ideology. So psychology is part of politics, and politics part of psychology. But you dont understand these traditions, politics is a serious business, it is about a nation a destiny and a people not about parties, for a party takes over the nation it becomes the nation and you know that very well, Owen Arthur is the Prime minister of barbados before he is the leader of the Blp, those of you who continue to put the party of the Blp before the nation will eventually bring the party down through your own greed, corruption and neglect of proper governance, and that is written in stone, and its psychology too. In fact i think Owen said it himself, he had to keep you all in check much more than he has every had to this term.

    I direct to the last nobel peace price winner for Economics and his mathematical formula, that the more disinterested the political elite of a country is from the poorest most vunerable members of its society the more inefficient its economy – so the despised gays, with no rights, the unemployed, and the poor that you only take interest in once every five years, if you cant hold out concrete gains – in hospitals, schools, housing, prisons, transport improvements, improvements in quality of life – in diet, social welfare and pensions etc, and i am not saying the BLP havent achieved but the issue is the people want a bit more than trickle down economics, they want strides like Grantley made, like Errol made, and even if the world economy has changed, and corruption is pandemic not just in Barbados, you owe to the people to articulate a vision.

    As errol used to say action is action, vision is vision, and unfortunate its gotten to the point much to Owens frustration that it seems his party has neither, and at least with the DLP there is a chance if it grabs the power of government for a new vision and some new action, and i would like to be a part of that, a chance to make a new begining.

    And you can take it or you can leave, but dont accuse me of party politics, not now not ever. I serve a party to serve a nation.

    Excuse me sir

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  • The history of Dates, associations etc are good, but the rest of this STORY is nonsense. Mia Mottley will never be prime minister of Barbados. As long as Bajans continue to have their current views of homosexuality and their views of Mia’s rumoured life style, she can network as much as she wants it will not happened. But if it somehow does occur, it will be the most uncomfortable time for her, internationally. I am committed to this.

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  • Gary – Angela son

    Get your head straight on this son.

    WE DON’T WISH TO HAVE HOMOSEXUALITY TO BE THE NORM IN THIS OUR BLESSED LAND,O.K?

    So get with the program,and while you doing so,undestand that we will never elect a lesbian or gay man as our prime minister,that is once we know their orientation.

    Nobody troubles gays here in Barbados,so where you going with all this sympathy stuff.

    You tell us that you not gay,yet you seem to be pushing a very strong agenda for them.

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  • I dont understand Adrian, that you say it is nonsense and then it might happen.

    Do you remember Sir Cameron Tudor, he was the DLP’s king maker for many years.

    He was a principled man, Mia is not principled.

    Once i had a problem with a lecturer at the UWI marking me down for my political views as a young student and not for the ideas, and my mom took an essay of mine in which the lecturer had done this to cammie, just at the bottom of Cave Hill, behind Stanmore Cresent; and Cammie, who was the first black head of the Oxford debating society, said to my mother after reading it – it was about Kamau – this boy is a genius he should be at Oxford.

    So dont come telling me I am talking nonsense, without dealing with the issues. Lesbianism is treated very different in Barbados than male homosexuality – you just dont know your facts. Mia is the most powerful person in the BLP. And, Adrian, she may or she may not, but you dont konw Barbados, like i do, the parties, as i do, and you are not a writer as i am, so no disrespect but dont talk about me writing nonsense, i have worked with every editor of the Nation and Advocate to produce political commentary.

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  • Come off it Gary

    BY the time you were at University age I think Cammie Tudor had already died.

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  • And anonymous whether you like it or not if i count the number of gay judges, lawyers, politicians etc you cannot tell me it is not the norm.

    I agree with you that Barbados is conservative, my next two pieces will be on barbadian conservatism and why the the DLP must hold the conservative center, if you read carefully you will see i tell you this is the way how you opportunistically attack Mia and keep the conservative ground, because if you come out and and attack her just for being gay, she will just point out the members of the DLP that were and have been gay. It may not be that many but enough to prove her point in public that it is the pot calling the kettle black, and that is why i mention Cammie, who was DLP king maker, and a principled man – but Mia has no principles, so dont expect her to act principally, i tell you like her grandfather she will corrupt the morality of the country. Read deeper and understand.

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  • We’ll you look at the dates i went to UWI from 1988-2003, and it happened in my first year at UWI – you going tell me now that david wasn’t my mother’s lawyer, and that he passed the case that my mother eventually won against the government after 8 years to his partner in chambers, Garth Patterson.

    You dont know me, you may think you know me, I suppose i never used to go and sleep over at Errols house Colloden farm as a child, right. Get real

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  • Gary Cole (aka Tatanka Yotanka) // January 11, 2008 at 8:57 am

    I dont understand Adrian, that you say it is nonsense and then it might happen.

    Do you remember Sir Cameron Tudor, he was the DLP’s king maker for many years.

    He was a principled man, Mia is not principled.

    Once i had a problem with a lecturer at the UWI marking me down for my political views as a young student and not for the ideas, and my mom took an essay of mine in which the lecturer had done this to cammie, just at the bottom of Cave Hill, behind Stanmore Cresent; and Cammie, who was the first black head of the Oxford debating society, said to my mother after reading it – it was about Kamau – this boy is a genius he should be at Oxford.

    So dont come telling me I am talking nonsense, without dealing with the issues. Lesbianism is treated very different in Barbados than male homosexuality – you just dont know your facts. Mia is the most powerful person in the BLP. And, Adrian, she may or she may not, but you dont konw Barbados, like i do, the parties, as i do, and you are not a writer as i am, so no disrespect but dont talk about me writing nonsense, i have worked with every editor of the Nation and Advocate to produce political commentary.
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    I don’t Fear Mia Mottley neither do I fear or even respect your assumed detail knowledge Barbados. I tempered my statement of her not becoming the PM with an IF statement being fully aware of my humaness, that i cannot know the full extent of the future, and outcomes therein. I will be working hard to prevent it and even harder to curtail it should it come to fruition.

    …..Having Mia Mottley as your PM will solidify in the minds of all caribbean people who already hold a view of Bajanmen as Bullers, that it is indeed so. What christian society, supposedly trying to protect and teach morals, that insist on indentifying devientcy as it was define pre 1960, would feel comforted by the public knowledge that their so called Leader lives an alternate lifestyle, chain smokes, is obese? Thinks it’s ok for women to horn men? Only a society of neutered men and a society of women who have little self repect would allow such a freak of nature to personify them, as their Leader.

    ……If it was public Knowledge, and so to the extent that it is for Mia Mottley, that Cammie Tudor was a buller? The DLP with him as one of it’s Leaders may not have been in power for as long as it was.

    ……I have a big problem with people attemptING to force me to accept them thru laws, and positions of power. I WILL FIGHT IT TOOTH AND NAIL.

    You can write your exposition without all the histrionics about Mottley being powerfull, that OBESE, CHAIN SMOKING FREAK, has no power other than what the NEUTERED men in the BLP gives her. I saw a RASTA MAN in her consituency rallying for her, a RASTAMAN, and then they would wonder why people don’t take them seriously. It would seem this Rastaman don’t take the teaching of his religion seriously.

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  • This drivel is beneath the dignity of this site!

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  • Gary Cole (aka Tatanka Yotanka)

    I asked if you were a psychologist because there are features of your analysis that are very interesting.

    My problem with your article though, was that you fliited from subject to subject thus making the article more difficult to comprehend. I guess you were trying to say too much at one time.

    However, you caused me to think, and I do not do that after reading most of the junk on most fora.

    If folk will dissect your article and focus on the individual topics that you present, I am sure that they will find some sense in what you are saying. I certainly did, and will get back to it later

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  • I don’t get the relevance of Mia’s sexual persuasion having to do with anything.
    There are so many homosexual men/women in leadership in Barbados in both leading polital parties, no one bats an eye. In the international community gays are widely accepted, they are people. BIM has to stop being so hypocritical.

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  • Starting my dissection of Cole’s article

    In the last paragraph of his article Cole posits…..

    I would advise David to try every means to get her over to the DLP, and bury her hatchet with Errol and make a good woman out of her, because she is the best politician in Barbados, but you have to understand her flaws and that you just can’t take the Mottley out of the child, he was really horrible man. I know some may disagree but I had a family member who suffered at the hands of Mottley and his crew over land and property, and I direct you to George Lamming’s book in the castle of my skin and show you how the great land theft in Carrington’s village, the murder threats form Mottley and the association to steal the land from the people, literally ran him as a young boy away from the thought of growing up in Barbados.

    1- Do you agree that David should try every means to get Mia her over to the DLP?
    2-Is that likely?
    I think not. Mia is her own man. And two man rats can live in the same hole as we were taught as children. Mia is not stupid like Mascoll. She is young and she knows that once she lives she will lead the BLP and be PM one day, because she is indeed the best politician in Barbados, what ever her flaws.

    3- Do you agree that Mia is the best politician in Barbados?

    4- Is there any truth in the allegations in this final paragraph.
    5- Are these issues relevant to the issues Cole set out to teach us at the beginning of his article?

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Mia Mottley will be the best prime minister Barbados never had.

    I don’t agree with everything she says, but she is brilliant!

    Too brilliant for Barbados!?

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  • DISSECTION CONTINUED
    Cole states that Walter Walton Reece, Q.C., [Mia’s great great grandfather] was ……….. an astute, handsome, popular, quick-witted with eyes of steel and completely untrustworthy. ………….. was a good lawyer but politically corrupt. He appeared to be Allan’s best friend, but the relationship was for his own wants. Jube needed Allan. Clennel Wickham, the writer for the Herald Newspaper in the 30’s described him despite his hail-well-met manner as subtle, dangerous, below contempt and caring only for his own ends. He behaved as he pleased and cared not for nor about public opinion.
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    Are these facts relevant and what are we to infer from them? Or are these statements the bias of the author and to be discredited.

    Does MIA project any of the qualities above?
    Does she have a similar modus operandi?
    Has she ever really been for Owen or only for self?
    Is she astute, attractive , popular, quick-witted with eyes of steel ?

    Do these things contribute to one’s perception of her?

    I would have to be able to answer these questions objectively and unemotionally before discarding or agreeing with Cole’s analysis.

    His opinion might not be yours or mine or indeed the popular one. But the best approach to his analysis (and a lot of issues presented on this forum) is IS WHAT HE SAY TRUE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE etc.

    This time around for example most of us want to see the DLP win the election. But how can we get them to tighten the screws in the next few days, is a more relevant approach than bashing the BLP supporters on the forum who might be pointing out the very flaws in the Dees attack and strategy……as none of us are perfect.

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  • gary can you email me at admin@caribusiness.com …it is very important

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  • Any political party’s parliamentary team that threathens to make her their leader, the individuals that comprise that parliamentary team, must never get our votes as our representatives in the constituencies.

    We must target the following candidates now and in the future

    Rommell Marshall
    Noel Lynch
    William “fatso” Duguid
    Left attention colonel Bostic 😀
    Trevor Prescod
    Hammie Lah
    Flopping Toppin
    Cinty from st.Thomas
    Kerrie Simmonds
    Rawle Eastmond
    Clyde Mascoll

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Georgie Porgie

    I agree, Mia is by far the best politician in Barbados.

    She will NOT join the DLP. She would be stupid to do this. Say the DLP win the election (which they will unless there is some big-style vote rigging) they may flounder in their first term after making all those promises and due to the impending world recession. (Its like a new football manager who takes over from a well-loved (?) long-term manager!) Mottley will either stay with the BLP (and all the other rogues will disappear living off ill-gotten gains) OR she will choose some other avenue in which to excel, maybe abroad.

    I’ll tell you one thing she should do right after the election – come out of the closet! Barbados needs to wake up and embrace diversity and what better way than via Mia – a political icon!

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  • You choose your role model, YYILI.

    Pardon me if I select my own.

    Lying windbags may be your idea of a consummate politician, but I have simpler tastes.

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    To politicians, lying is like breathing!

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  • The hypocrisy of Bajans is TOO much!

    If I had a puppet husband with whom I went to church pun a Sunday I would be leading today’s Cadres poll!

    You ain’t seen the last of MAM!

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  • Yum Yum

    I think you instead of Mia should come out of the closet since you seem to be harbouring secret latent (or are they really overt) desires.

    We don’t want no wicker nor bulla as our leader so get lost.

    Every post on homosexuality seem to draw you out de closet with your ‘supposedly liberal’ views.

    I am with adrian hinds on this one.

    People feel by pushing this ‘everyone is equal’ and homosexuals are born so argument – that eventually they will cause enough people to feel guilty.

    Well let me tell you even 80% of americans don’t want to see homosexuals being placed on an equal footing as hetrosexuals.

    Live and let live but don’t force me to accept your perversion.

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  • “I GO FURTHER” in my dissection of Gary Cole’s dissertation

    what Mottley brought into black Barbadian politics is the very heart of ruthlessness, immorality, amorality, a political movement associated with the mob in the united states that became known in the 30s as syndicalism. That is running a country like a criminal syndicate, and this is what I think Mia will drag the country completely into without her even knowing it if she takes hold of the party and establishes her rule, her destiny.

    If Mia gets to be prime minister she will first rehabilitate her grandfather, perhaps he will be on the next change in currency, she will attempt to erase the truth that Grantley and Errol knew about

    My mom always used to say that Eliot used to like to watch, and that Elombe felt that Eliot had everything because he was illegitimate, and I think politically when Elliot started handling all the drug cases he was doing a disservice to his daughter if she went into politics, and then I realized no – that’s the Mottley way.
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    Does Mia Mottley also bring into black Barbadian politics the very heart of ruthlessness, immorality, amorality, and syndicalism, that is running a country like a criminal syndicate political movement associated with the mob in the united states ?

    Will Mia Mottley do these things if she takes hold of the party and establishes her rule, her destiny?

    Does Mia indeed operate in the Mottley way.
    Is the Motley good or bad for Barbados in this century? Was it ever good for Barbados?

    If Mia gets to be prime minister will she rehabilitate the legacy of her grandfather? Would that be good or bad for Barbados?

    Is Gary talking sense or nonsense? Is he issuing us Bajans a warning or is he just talking bull?

    If he is indeed talking sense, what should we do about what he has said?

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Anonymous

    Let me ask you two questions.

    Should Mia Mottley declare her sexuality?

    IF she announced that she was gay and introduced her current (very attractive) partner, do you think this would increase OR decrease her popularity?

    I am intrigued to see what you think.

    Have a good day

    YYILI

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Wishing in Vain

    Though I broadly support the DLP in this election I CANNOT condone Patricia Inniss’s over-agressive style. Her conduct has not been fitting for a prospective MP, and I hope the electorate punish her for this.

    The comment about her 100% woman-ness is crass nonsense and you should no better than to enter into this kind of innuendo!

    Enjoy your day WIV and PLEASE avoid being smug – it does not suit you my man!

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    I thank you for those two additional questions that ought to be answered in the analysis of Col’s submission.

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  • Georgie Porgie, for those who can read and understand he is making perfect perfect sense and really is sending a warning that should be heeded by all.

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  • One Not So Blind Mouse

    I am so impressed with this column, its so informative and guess what? I have never read any lies on this blog so far. Why is it ,that no one is attacking Muscle Mary and Doctor Quinn the medicine woman when speaking on the subject of morality, ethics or corruption?

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  • One only has to mention the work ‘Homo’ or ‘Gay’ and YUM YUM springs into action…

    Look YYILI! We get your point about discriminating against persons based on their sexual preferences.
    YOU ARE RIGHT!!
    This is no reason to HATE, pick on or abuse anyone.

    HOWEVER, you need to understand that this does NOT give such persons any rights or authority to IMPOSE their DEVIANT lifestyles on SOCIETY.

    ANYONE who wishes to accept LEADERSHIP roles in any organisation (or society) is dutybound to respect, defend and support the MORAL, ETHICAL and legal rules of that organisation or society. NOT TO USE THEIR POSITION TO IMPOSE THEIR OWN DEVIANT STYLES.

    In any case, as I have said before, a tree is known by its FRUIT. If some of the fruit are KNOWN to be DEVIANT and questionable what can we expect about other fruit from that tree? like honesty, Integrity etc???

    …Back off YYILI, you are taking a strong point much too far….

    Pat Inniss is in the circumstances therefore JUSTIFIED in flaunting her NORMALCY.

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Dear Bush Tea

    For reasons I have conveyed previously I have a special interest in fighting against hateful homophobic attitudes.

    I am however getting bored arguing with West Indians whose intolerance is so deep-rooted that they are unable to debate issues of sexuality without resorting to terms like “perversion”, “deviance”, “freak” etc…

    Our sexuality is predominantly genetically predetermined although there is a significant environmental influence. Homosexuality CANNOT therefore be expressed as a ‘lifestyle choice’ as there is no more choice involved than there is with a persons race, height, eye colour, sex etc..

    THIS is where the pre-judice comes in!

    Take the following comment by Anonymous (above):

    “We don’t want no wicker nor bulla as our leader so get lost”.

    Replace the words “wicker” and “bulla” with “black man” or “woman”. (A la USA election!)

    NOW you feeling so comfortable?

    Is it not a shame to squander the talents of potential leader because of an element of their being which they cannot change! They can however hide it – IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!

    Closet PM.

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  • YUM YUM said
    Our sexuality is predominantly genetically predetermined
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    Please Sir/Madam pray tell on which chromosomes are the traits for bulling and wicking carried?

    Is transmission by simple Mendelian inheritance? Or by random transmission?

    At what stage in embryology does this occur?

    Please could you cite the literature where we can see where you found this scientific information?

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Georgie Porgie

    The scientific viewpoint on the origins of homosexuality (or bulling and wicking as you so elegantly put it!) sway between genetics and environment. There is a massive body of scientific evidence proposing both of these causes although currently the balance seems to be skewed towards genetics. It is however VERY unlikely that sexuality is caused by exclusively by nature or nurture ALONE.

    To date no “gay gene” has been found.

    Inheritance pattern is unknown but thought to be random.

    Let me ask you a counter question. Do you believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice?

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  • Yes I think it is a lifestyle choice..

    Can you cite the Scientific journals for the massive body of scientific evidence proposing a genetic aetiology for homosexuality?

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  • Why all this irrelevant discussion. Both parties have questionable characters, some we talk about and some we refuse to talk about. But this have nothing to do with the future of our economy. Dems, the more you resort to sideline tactics, the longer you will have to wait for the bus to come. Let’s deal with issues for the last day of debating.

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  • Frankology dont lets discuss Dems tactics here. I am so upset that we cannot see ANY of the DLP speaches made since the campaign started except those from David Thompson.
    All the BLP speaches can be seen and heard.

    So I might as well talk about science

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Georgie Porgie

    Re. Scientific journals

    I read a very good review paper recently but I can’t find the link for it right now.

    I’ll send it to this thread once I find it.

    I am interested by your assertion that homosexuality is a ‘lifestyle choice’. From this I can logically conclude that you think that people become gay purely through environmental influences and their own volition. Therefore homos can be cured – in your opinion. Have YOU evidence of this?

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  • rE EVIDENCE : Only in those cases where people have come to Christ as Savior.

    tHANKS FOR SENDING THE LINK IN ADVANCE

    FRIEND WE CAN DISAGREE WITHOUT DISAGRREABLE AND THERE IS MORE THAN THE ELECTION DEBATE

    yOU WILL NOTICE TOO THAT IN DISSECTING COLE’S ARTICLE THAT I FIRST THREW OUT THE PARAGRAPH ON THE HOMOSEXUALITY

    I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THE OTHER INFLUENCES FROM FAMILY HISTORY AND INFLUENCES

    CLEARLY MIA IS A BRIGHT YOUNG WOMAN. THAT CANT BE DENIED

    ALSO SHE IS ABLE TO RELATE WELL TO ALL CROSS SECTIONS OF THE SOCIETY.
    i ACTUALLY ADMIRE HER.

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    Yes Georgie

    And her sexuality has NOTHING to do with her ability to lead.

    Say I.

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  • YUM YUM I like it!

    GP

    Actually, you know the interesting thing about reading research articles? You quickly realise that all of science is political. This means that in all your readings you have to bear in mind what influences there are on each project – who is funding it? is there an agenda in the research? etc…

    Quite often researchers are under pressure to ‘find something’ as a key to securing further funding.

    Also, it sometimes comes down to a battle between two different disciplines. In this case the biologists are sparring with the psychologists and to date no-one has prevailed.

    Its all politics!

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  • There is much merit in what you say Sir.
    I must concur.

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  • YYILI and GP,

    I just got home from listening to David Thompson (live). I note that you two have not yet resolved the question of homosexuality.

    YY, I thought that my post was quite uncontroversial – I agree that discrimination is wrong, but it is also wrong – even worse -for gays to expect that they should be able to IMPOSE their lifestyles on society.

    I do NOT think that this is a ‘life style choice’ – I know exactly what it is… It is a spiritual disease that is spread by immorality. Meaning that when a society adopts immorality, dishonesty and injustice as a norm, this situation presents itself (often in completely innocent victims)

    The physical equivalent situation is when a society chooses to live in an unclean environment where certain diseases inevitable show up in various persons in that society. (often victims who are not responsible for the unclean environment)

    GP,
    My mother used to say that one cannot be in church and Chapel at the same time…If DLP can’t even get a hearing in the newspapers you think that they will be allowed to operate a live stream (private TV) during an election campaign? get real this is OSA Barbados.
    …man come home nuh – you would make a good politician…

    I repeat:
    Davis Thopmson will be the best PM EVER in Barbados. He has good vibes….

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  • Bush Tea
    If you get a job for me in the Ministry of Health I will come home from exile

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  • BUsh Tea
    GP,
    My mother used to say that one cannot be in church and Chapel at the same time…If DLP can’t even get a hearing in the newspapers you think that they will be allowed to operate a live stream (private TV) during an election campaign? get real this is OSA Barbados.
    =============================
    Ok I understand it now. But I like to hear Freundell & Sinckler and Michael Lashley especially. Didnt realize what was going on. What is fair for the goose should be fair for the gander

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  • Mottleyism is the highest form of yardfowlism.

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  • I love DPM Mia Mottley and we in Guyana have seen her in action and we know she will make a great Prime Minister for the Land of the Flying Fish. You all don’t know about yourself, that is the problem here. I had a maid that went to Barbados to do a little maid work, and when she came back to Guyana I enquired if she liked Barbados and her reply was that there are so many anti-men in Barbados that a girl can walk down the road naked and a man would not bat an eye. Anti-man is the Guyanese word for homosexual. Did you all hear that a young Barbadian girl had successsful open heart surgery at Georgetown Public Hospital this Saturday last. Yes, and the fee was a mere $3,500.00 US dollars. The family was in the process of raising $33,000.00 US for the same surgery in Miami USA, but a Barbadian doctor intervened and said to the family you get the same surgery in Guyana for less. The Barbadian girl is recovering well in the modern GPH and cared for by our excellent Guyanese doctors and nursing staff. There you go, so the next time, think before you bash Mia or Guyana, because you might need heart surgery and I will just tell the GPH to not give you the surgery. Bye

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  • Out Leader His Excellecy The Honourable President of Guyana Mr. Bharrat Jagdeo in 2004 tried to get the Guyana Parliament to pass a law that would allow homosexual to marry and have right liek their fellow Guyanese, but the bill was shelved because the Holiness churches protested, but we in Guyana are working vigourily to erase stigma and discrimnation against gat. Our country is the only country that has launched a protest agianst that Jamican singer, I don’t want to mention his name here, as I don’t want trouble. In Guyana SASOD check the website out is working assiduously to promote harmony amongst all Guyanese, whether homosexul, heterosexual, nonsexual and so on. So chek out the SASOD Guyana website and have a nice day. Guyana waiting to hear who wins this tense election.

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  • NONSENSE and false logic that Mia Mottley will take Barbodos into criminal activity if she becomes PM because her grand dad was involved with shady people in the USA. My goodness, not only are you narrow minded, but ignorant also. Mia is smart, dynamic and erudite, BUT you are just jealous that here is a woman and she is everything you all wish you could be, but can’t, so you come here and tarnish her with this obsolute nonsense about her family tree and then spice it up with her sexuality. I hope you know what you are doing here is a sin. A big sin, and the Lord will deal with you all. I am not Bajan, so I should not get involved here, but they say in Guyana a picture is worth is 1000 words, well the picture of the leader of the DLP says to me that he is as dumb as a door nail. The man looks like a rotten apple just hit him in the head, and he wondering what to do. Now just looking at Mia you can see she is brilliant. But as you say she is she own man, and that in itself says to me that you jealous that you all can’t be her man, you all are not enough man for a woman such as Mia. I live in Guyana, as one of you asked a while back and choose to call me a liar. I have traveled to some of the world, and I have stopped at BGI, when it was Seawell and now Grantley Adams, but I have never stepped off the aircraft, but I did smell some of your air as I walked to the aircraft door to get a some fresh air. I have never stepped onto your soil, as I do not want any insults from BGI immigration, because my back yard in Guyana is bigger than all of Barbados. That is right, infact I can start my own country in Guyana and name iteSisterBabyLand, and call up Mia and have her turn my mud and jungle into something like Barbados.

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  • Sister Baby are you a lesbian? In Bajan parlance a wicker. I hear a large part of Guyana population very poor. Also hear there are lot of lesbians, gays, drunkards and kleptomaniacs there. Why are so many Guyanese clamouring to get to Barbados?

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  • Observer, You hearing right about Guyana, and Guyanese are not clamouring to come over to BGI. The jet should be full that comes there twice a day from here, but it’s not, so for me that is an indicator that we are not coming in droves. You need workers, we come, you need voters, we come, you need anything we send it over. However, let me remind you that this blog is not about me, or Guyana, but instead the vicious attack on one of the best hopes for our region. These attacks are irrelevant to how this woman performs in public life. She can’t help that she is decended from shady American people. She had no say in that, but to come here and write such vile things about her shows me that the writer is a malicious and dangerous male. He is stuck in an antiquated way of thinking and this prevents him from effectively accepting the thought that the region will have a a dynamic leader in the near future. So he uses this gutter nonsense to deter people from accepting that fact. It will not work, becasuse people are not studid, for we know who can help us. You guys on this forum need more flexibility in dealing with these sitiutions, you know the Guyanese problem, Mia’s family tree and so on, but unfortuantely, it is not going to happen here because you are all old men with limber minds, who only care about the theats against some man that immigrated there and opened a 23 room hotel 9 miles form BGI and 3 miles from Bridgetown. I would like to request that yiou remove the nonsense about Mia. You really should, because any crazy poor Guyanese would know that you playing on people’s emotions. That is it. Now who says people cannot be gay? Please answer, and please don’t come back with the Bible, for you will take me back to the 70’s when a University of Guyana English prof told her students to read a passage from any book, including the $2.00 book of myth, and write a brief essay about what you had read (she wanted to see how well/advanced they were in English writing). Now there were 10 foreign students in that classroom, and 16 Guyanese, the Guyanese all knew which book was the $2;00 book of myth, but not the foreign students. The point that sI am trying to make is that the Guyanese have had other religions thrown at them, with each one condemning the other teachings and reading, so because of that exposure the Guyanese were able to make the distinction of which book is the $2.00 book of myth. Anyways, we are all creatures of habit, and it is quite evident that we as Guyanese are ahead of you all in certain area. You can learn more about our strives for equality by going to the SASOD website, and see what is going on in Guyana. You are also invited to come to the Guyana Gay and Lesbian Film Festival which is usually held in the June in Georgetown. You will find the times and venue on the SASOD website. Please come, and expose yourself to all the different possiblies in this world. Peace and Love to all

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  • Sister Baby i dont like the sexist jibs of the comments, but they cant write, so forgive their manner, i know Barbadian men, and they love any hint of sexual or homosexual, or lesbian scandal, so there is that course sallaciousness, that so agravated my mother growing up.

    Its like sussing or catcalling, you tell that to a barbadian male that he shouldn’t, and you denying his whole existence and meaning of life. HaHa.

    But what you write about mia is too dishonest. I dont think you realize that before you came along Guyana and Barbados have always been linked in their history, and you have to try to reach a broader audience through genuine study, and i set you an assignment as Guyanese ambassador, write your interpretation of Courteen’s Curse and the burning down of the Dutch fort in the Essequibo in 1637 (cirra), for it is in these roots as a people were the destinies of the two nations intetwined, and i’d be interested in your view, and here’s the rub about what i am saying the strategy for Mia should be, have her come over to the DLP now that they have won, and the BLP will be out of politics for at least 15-20 years, and yes she might have to give up being prime minister, but i think if she takes the time to decently handle this issue of gay rights, i think in 20 years with the DLP, learning from the loss of the Blp, at least she will be in the party with power, and command respect, and one day with the DLP when she silverhaired and far wiser she would make a great Prime Minister, at 58. But David should go after and crush the BLP, and get Mia out of the BLP, and that will be the end of them. And that would be my advice to David, you have to signal their destruction, and court her publicly. Strange but yes…i follow russian party politics, Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky and how they operated in the party, and if one party doesn’t press the advantage, that party will fall for lack of that advantage.
    With Mia out of the BLP it would be better, remember its going to be Mia in 2013.

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  • Hi Gary, It’s refreshing to meet you and I must say you and Adrian are indeed passionate about your country’s politics and I might add well versed in its history. I believe I have heard of Courteen’s Curse, but at my age cannot rally tell you anything about it. You see in my high school days in the then British Guiana, history was one of my most remote subjects, because here I was a black girl in a sweltering hot classroom studying about how some early Barbadian people came here and set up plantations, and then brought us over from Africa to toil day in and day out without rewards. It made no sense to me, but that was then, because now I am an prolific reader of all subject matters. Yes, we Guyanese are ware of the cultural and historic ties between the two nations. In fact President Jagdeo ever so ofter alludes to that fact whenever he is asked about the situation in Barbados with the illegal Guyanese workers. Now, I know Mia as Deputy Prime Minister, and from what I saw of her on Guyana NCN TV. led me to conclude that she is a brilliant politician. She was the shining star at Guyana Expo last year, the 21 st century Caribbean woman, and that is what led me to come to her defence after reading the dangerously intense essay on her family tree and personal life. You see there is a fine line between sanity and madness, and with the internet I felt that what was written about Mia certainly can jeapordise her political aspirations and maybe even bring harm to her life. Mia is an erudite woman in a sea of improvished minds and malicious hearts and there in lies the problem. Anyway, Gary such a cute daughter, and I love the books on the shelves. Anyway, I once heard a young Jamaican man who was half black and half white say, that when he got up in the morning he had to think if he was going to be black today or white today, he had conflicts, and I thought to myself, oh my, for I never think of who I am when I wake up. And nowt he homosexual thing, I feel for the young poeple who have to face this problem, which has led me toe write to President Jadgeo asking him to help the homosexual people. I know the Guyana Goverment is working assidusouly to bring equality to all Guyanese. Well, they say Guyana is a failed state, but in the failed state there are those who are enjoying life, because as you know this is a big country, with so few people, about 500,000 people, and so many of the homosexual Guyanese live in the interior and farm, and never come into contact with hateful people. Anyway, listen you know her and the family, but for me she is Deputy Prime Minister. Bye

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  • Let he without sin cast the first stone.

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  • Jaboy you are quoting that verse out of context. To take a text out of context makes it a pretext.

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  • Let them put her up to run for the PM job; she would be an easy target.
    Barbadians would not go for the gay agenda and neither would the church. Plus, Mia is the only former government minister in this region to have a whole prison burn down on her watch, ha ha.
    Mia’s political ambition is finished as far as I am concerned

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  • Forgive us for being a devil’s advocate ASIS. Why do we crucify Mia on the lifestyle issue but knowingly turn the other cheek when our male leaders engage in immoral behaviour as well? it is a fact that the late PM emerge with a ready made family which was little known to the public. Why are we being so hard, some might say hypocritical about Mia on this issue?

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  • mottley, Has destroyed all chances of becoming a future PM by her own actions and by her own actions I am not referring to her sexual appetite, her homosexuality, her willingness to beat women into submission, what I am referring to here is her bullying actions while in office, these actions do nothing to enhance her status as a leader, when mottley can use her high office to threaten persons involved in business in Barbados as she did with the meetings with the main builders in this island when the subject of CHINESE WORKERS AT PARADISE arose, and that if they did not do as she requested and tow the line that they would find themselves subjected to a VAT and a TAX AUDIT is a sad statement coming from the DPM.

    Her willingness to use her power at will to hurt and destroy honest sincere persons is a feature that none of us really need in our politics but her greed is such that it is necessary to operate in this manner after all the old people always said, never trust a mottley as they do not pay their bills nor are they honest.

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  • The danger is not homosexuality in high places but closet homosexuality because of blackmail. We all have our problems and therefore we should not look down on homosexuals but homosexuality is deviant behaviour, and not to be pushed as an alternatiave lifestyle.
    By the way, after lots of interviews with
    lots of homosexual men over the years I have never met one gay man that has told me that he was not turned on by a man.

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  • Jukecheckedeyskirt

    Do you really believe that Mia’s lifestyle will be reflected in the way she governs Barbados, if awared the office of Prime Minister in 2013? I honestly do not think so. YOu people who purport this propesturous nonsense like you are the Alpha and Omega of Barbados’s politics really need to get serious. The politicians of our country are corrupted by greed and personal gain because the laws of Barbados does not allow for them to be transparent, declare their assets and punished persons in high office for laundering money. If the appropriate laws were in place and the political web had not entangled many aspects of the judicial process and ministries of this country, I do not honestly think that we would not have all the smut that we currently have to deal with. So what if Mia Mottley has an alternative lifestyle, what if her family has a dark secret, all of us have our dark secrets. Mia Mottley is the best thing that could ever happen to Barbados politics and many can attest to the fact that she is a very hard worker.

    I do not condone her lifestyle but on the other hand I will not condemn it because far more sicker things happen in this country that goes unheard of by people we would be very shock and surprise to know about. Mia if you read this, it is not to late for you to change your lifestyle and be the women that you are. You are strong, intelligent and I must say gorgeous and what ever happen in your past that made you so, I believe there is a good man out there for you. However if you continue to be the way you are, I do not think you will sit in the seat of Prime Minister because you fully know, regardless of the hypocrisy of bajans, that this island is still very christian minded.

    But aside the intelligence and let commonsesne prevail.

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  • I am Mia’s cousin. She is a person the same as any one of us. If we all followed our own advice and teachings we would be living in utopia.

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  • but looka my rasthole crosses dis blessed Sunday mornin doe.
    stupseeeeeeeeeeeeee.
    Who is dese ‘new-niggas’ now dat comin to confuse de place and tell we who did dem motha frien and who did dem play-mate? Wah dah got to do wid anyting? We doan k who did you motha frien or foe. I din read de hole ting cause I did gettin confuse. I does get confuse very quik. stupseeeeeeeee

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  • lesley mottley
    and who k if you is she nephew,niece, uncle, aunt or pet-rat? wah dah got ta do wid anyting? We discussing leadership not de family-tree. stuupseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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  • @Bonny

    Relax, don’t burst a vessel.

    This submission was posted back in 2008, so Cole is no Johnny Come Lately…lol.

    The family tree reference is establishing a foundation to speak on the Mottley’s man.

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  • David
    wah ya had ma day man. i did beginin ta get confuse which in very hard ta do. LOLLLLLLLLL

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  • Micro Mock Engineer

    “It is a spiritual disease that is spread by immorality. Meaning that when a society adopts immorality, dishonesty and injustice as a norm, this situation presents itself (often in completely innocent victims)”
    ……………………………….

    Interesting analysis BT… others throughout history have made similar observations…

    Shakespeare… “The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children.”
    Horace… “For the sins of your fathers you, though guiltless, must suffer.”
    Euripides… “The gods visit the sins of the fathers upon the children.”
    … and several places throughout the Bible… “visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons”

    Tragically, the “innocent victims” you mention often come from later generations.

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  • @ MME

    …man for years now the bushman has been trying to show to anyone who would listen how close the parallel situation between the spiritual and natural realities is…… but wanna won’t listen…..
    If one allow oneself to live in an unhygienic environment you can expect to see manifestations of various diseases around you.
    Spiritually, if you allow certain types of immoral and injustice to become institutionalized in society you can be sure to expect the resulting manifestations….. like homosexuality, lesbianism, lack of strong men who can be effective leaders, women who do not understand their true role and purpose etc.

    You would be surprised at the other parallel situations…

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    This thing of a person’s sexuality is very serious business.
    The future of the Nation is at stake.

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  • @Carson C. Cadogan wrote,
    “This thing of a person’s sexuality is very serious business.
    The future of the Nation is at stake.”

    This homophobic diatribe you are spewing is absolute nonsense.

    You live in a predominately heterosexual country that has had rampant promiscuity for the last 60 years or more.

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  • @Bonny. Chile. Yuh right. Bitter confusion. I clicked on the links to the websites in the submission. But all I get is a message from Hushmail saying the sites down. I actually bought the first oeuvre written by Angela Cole and enjoyed it so much that I decided not to spoil myself so much ever again by buying another one. So, if I cannot read it free online, the excitement would be too great for me.

    But I remember Angela from the time she did living with Carlton, poor fellow. Every time they had a row, Angela used to clean out the contents of Carlton’s house up by Chancery Lane. And every time she moved back in with poor Carlton, the contents stayed in Angela’s warehouse and Carlton had to refurnish so she could tek it again. Nuff times it happened. Gave a whole new meaning to “redecorate”.

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  • Amused
    My suga-plum, trust you ta mek my Sundee nite worth it. Ya too swoiteeeeeeeeee.

    Carlton did a real foolish bitch or a glutton fa pain. Pork was nevva in such great demand dat he had ta pay sa dearly fa piece/peace. stupseeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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  • Amused
    I kno a fella dat we does call ‘stove-man’. He got bout a hundred stoves put way at he muddah house. Evry time he n a woman brek up, ‘gimme back my stove’. doan laff. how sum men does get sa foolish doe? stupseeeeeeeeeeee

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  • Mia mottley sexuality seems to be a topic of interest to most. However if that is her only weakness as a politician I would be inclined to vote for her. Wouldn’t it be of more interest if her weakness in the political arena were pointed out than her sexuality!

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  • @ac. MIA has other weaknesses as a politician but gossip and innuendo is “entertaining”.
    Does she have the strength of character to be a leader of the BLP and possibly Prime Minister?
    The electorate and her elected MPs will decide in 2012 or 2013.

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  • David;
    I hadn’t seen this thread in 2007-8 so the apparent historical revelations were quite startling to me as well as the conclusions that Mia would exactly duplicate the supposed failings of her grandfather. The name-dropping by Gary Cole of the rich and famous in Barbados from the last century with the implication that his family was hard done by several of the same rich and famous persons also stood out. It might be interesting if you could get a psychologist to comment on the article and its writer.

    By the way, I suppose it was you that brought this topic back from its 2008 grave. That action suggests an interesting, if not malicious, agenda.

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  • @checkit-out

    Bringing forward blogs at the request of BU of commenters is something done routinely. In this case if you read the blog titled ‘The democratic Labour Party Is Bad For Barbados’ you should see the request to bring forward the post after the blog was copy pasted as a comment. At the moment Mia Mottley is under the radar given her position and expected role and you should not be surprised if any and all issues are placed on the table for discussion.

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  • @Bonny. But chile, you know some men. Not bright. Give them a little whif of p**** and it like if the drunk. Carlton did like that. He and a certain queens council used to share the girls.

    I always suspected that Carlton also shared some pillow talk with Angela and he used to take her everywhere with him and he was afraid she might embarass him (more than she did in any case) by repeating something he said. After Carlton finally told her not to come back, she was clawing to associate with the same crowd, but none of them ever had any time for her and only put up with her because of Carlton. So, as a bitter woman scorned, she started to write a series of history books (all illiterate and mostly fictional) about the people who had dropped her from the team. Most of the contents of these books is highly and actionably defamatory. However, as the actual damages they give rise to are slight to none, no one bothers to sue. Then too, there are the court costs of such an action – could they be reclaimed from Angela or the Oxford Prospect? You cannot get blood out of a stone and Angela, without Carlton, is now juiceless. As for Tatanka Yotanka, without Carlton nobody done tek he on needer. I suppose that, courts permitting, you could sell tickets to attend the trial to recoup your costs, as you can be sure Angela would defend herself, or get the Oxford Prospect to do it for her. Probably end up getting themselves locked up for contempt – but that would provide them with far greater attention than their meagre talents indicate.

    So, like Carlton (and because of Carlton) these two are part of our cross. Bonny knows exactly how to deal with them. “stupseeeeeeeeeeee”. Right on, girl.

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  • Amused
    Mawnin, my cinnamon-toast, ya hilarious. ya prose always got me in stitches. ya crazeeeeeeeeeeee n i luv ya baddddddddd. ya in eezee.

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  • David; Thanks for the explanation. Sounds very reasonable. I withdraw the comments in my last paragraph above.
    Did WordPress shut you down for an hour or so this morning?

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  • Hear the name: “Owen Arthur” and immediately you think of the man who received $750,000 as campaign financing but secretly deposited it into his personal bank account. That’s why for us in the DLP, Arthur is the best person to lead the BLP into the next election. Having read the Sunday Sun, each time you see George Payne, you will immediate get the image of election rigging, electoral fraud and electoral corruption. We still cannot figure out how (as Chairman of the BLP for two years) George could not even make it onto the radar of the recent Nation Newspaper Poll, when 1% of the respondents said they want ‘Hammie Lah’ to lead Barbados.

    Last Thursday, Chief Advisor to our Prime Minister – Harley Henry wrote that ‘political happenings create strange bedfellows.’ As a leading political strategists, not even Henry could understand the sudden unholy alliance between George Payne and Arthur, who were once sworn enemies. Then on Sunday, October 10th 2010, the reason became clear once the front page of the Sunday Sun was read.

    Sitting Member of Parliament for St. James North, Rawle Eastman was bemused that $560.00 could have been paid for 56 delegate on behalf of his Branch, unknown to him and his Branch Executive. We agree that this is serious and smells of political bullying, corruption, fraud, organized crime and election rigging. This is easily the very worst of the BLP.

    What is even more vulgar about this scenario is that late last year, this same BLP had a lot to say about our Minister of Social Care having the power in law to identify 450 persons to serve on Constituency Councils.

    Many will recall that in the last election, it was the charge of corruption that destroyed the BLP. Many will also agree that the BLP seemed to have been sailing towards a 4th term until our Prime Minister broke the news that a cheque for $750,000 (given to the BLP as campaign financing) ended up in Owen Arthur’s personal bank account, unknown to anyone in the BLP. That is corruption! That Arthur would now find an ally in George Payne, is obvious. But it is the image of corruption, real and imagined, that continues to hurt the BLP. Adding a new charge of internal election rigging simply is not helping. It does not help either when some put their personal interest before what is best for this country.

    News reaching us is that George Payne is quietly canvassing for a return of Owen Arthur as head of the BLP. Now in his 60’s, George does not seem willing to take instructions from Mia Mottley – a female 20 years his junior. It is also rumored that a deal has been struck where Arthur would become Prime Minister again, making Dale Marshall (from George Payne’s law firm) his Deputy Prime Minister.

    As we understand it, the deal is that Arthur would serve one year as Prime Minister and then hand over to Dale who would immediately make George, Deputy Prime Minister of Barbados.

    That these men would resort to corruption or election rigging to achieve this, show the extent to which they are even now in Opposition – auctioning off this country. To be fair, it was Grantley Adams who gave Barbadians the right to vote and since then this country has been regarded internationally as a place where election are fair and free of fear.

    Whether the National Executive of the BLP will now wink at this level of electoral corruption (which should be referred to the DPP) will determine whether party members opt to insult the legacy of Grantley Adams or send a strong message to the entire society that under a future BLP Government, there will be a zero tolerance policy on corruption. The people are watching. But we will not be surprised when those power-hungry and desperate men realise their time is running out and decide to make a move against those who are now standing on the side of justice and what is right. We urge the BLP to resist any temptation to be drawn to the dark side and say no to organised crime. It also needs to be equally aware that Barbados cannot afford to have two unstable political parties at this time.

    By the way, we managed to intercept an email the other day where someone wrote that in order to change Barbados you must first change the BLP. We agree! Corruption at all levels must be stamped out. Perhaps that explains the resistance to Mia Mottley becoming Chairman of the BLP. But maybe, just maybe – Mia Mottley is the change the BLP needs. For sure it is now clear that the BLP urgently needs a fresh start as much as it needs a leader who will be tough on crime and corruption.

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  • @ Gary Cole,
    Having benefitted from the largesse of of the Bajan political elite through you and your mother’s relationship with Carlton, you should not bite the hands that fed you.

    Bastards like you and me have benefitted from either our parents friends or like me the good fortune of getting into Kolij and mixing with some of the children of the elite.

    To eat these people food,run bout pun their lawns and then cast aspersions on their characters is repugnant.

    @ David, so you don’t get ticked off at me. Yuh boy Hants is an illegitimate child ( whose father owned him) hence I have the right to use the correct english word bastard.

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  • What is there to get ticked off at Hantsie?

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  • Just messin wid yuh David.
    Actually was trying to do a little double entendre on de word bastard in reply to Gary Cole.

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  • Hants
    David is be a bit slowwwwwwww to de draw sumtimes. Gih he a lil break. He aw-tis-tick.

    (just kiddin David. You’re de bombbbbbbb)
    mwahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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  • Ah the West Indian psyche. People don’t bat an eyelid when we engage in dysfunctional heterosexual behaviour ( outside man/woman, horning, wife beating etc – in fact we sometimes find it funny) yet the very possibility that someone is gay regardless of whether or not they are a good friend, daughter, son, overall decent human being is deemed the worst of the worst. I can understand attacking Ms Mottley because she’s a poor MP, or a poor manager, or maybe engaging in “bobol” but attacks on her sexuality never fail to expose her attackers as morons. The biggest problem in the Caribbean today is indeed our brain drain, where have our thinkers gone? Do I really have to explain the stupidity of having a problem with someone’s sexual preference. Saying that you don’t agree with someone’s sexual preference is like saying you don’t agree with the rain. Just deal with the blasted rain, and realise there will be rain. It’s just one of those things, what century are some of you living in?

    Under all the ole talk, , who is to say what truly motivates Mia. We can only judge by her words and deeds. And in Caribbean politics I tend not to believe what I read in the papers or rumor mongering so I will reserve judgment. One thing for sure, she is perhaps one of the few articulate witty Caribbean politicians in the region and the vision she has laid out in various speeches she has made should be taken to heart.

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  • And I hasten to add that the most despicable form of criticism is the kind that seeks to discredit a person because of their family history. You cannot help who your father was, or your grandfather, or great grandfather. Perhaps Mottley’s grandfather was a SOB , I dunno perhaps Mottley is also a descendant of Genghis Khan, this is all puerile fluff designed to get readers bright eyed and feed a perverse voyeuristic need . You do not live in the woman’s mind thus you cannot know her desires or deepest held beliefs except what she has chosen to reveal. And again this fear that she will force her supposed abhorrent lifestyle on Barbadians, we in our tiny islands have a lot more to worry about than homosexuality, trust me.

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    David;

    So recent history repeats itself! Very Interesting!

    Checkit-Out

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  • There has been renewed interest in this dated blog AWTY

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