The financial crisis has led to fears of a meltdown in the eurozone, and to social unrest, particularly in Greece. Photograph: Sakis Mitrolidis/AFP/Getty Images

A perusal of the several articles which end up in the BU inbox always make for interesting reading. One of the benefits of blogging is the opportunity to be exposed to many issues which come from many sources at a never ending pace. A recent article which appeared in the UK Guardian titled In a financial crisis, what counts is what works supports the point (credit to:Looking Glass).  The following extract from the article has resonated with us all week:

Belief in Europe was just as messianic – and just as bonkers – as belief in the market. The idea was that you could take a dozen or more countries of wildly differing economic performance, with entirely disparate cultures, and bolt them harmoniously together. What’s more, you could do this without a common language to facilitate labour mobility or a common budget to transfer resources from rich countries to poor countries.

During the bubble years these fundamental design flaws were kept hidden, but they have been exposed by the crisis. Low interest rates allowed countries on the periphery to grow strongly for a while, covering up their steady loss of competitiveness against the country at Europe’s core, Germany. The financial crash resulted in a deep recession, soaring budget deficits and fears in the financial markets of debt default.

The only factor mentioned by the author of the article if the same observation were to be made about CARICOM/CSME is to accept we have a common language when compared to the EU.

What the article did was to spur us to complete this blog which has been gathering dust for the last three week. BU recalls the much heralded signing of the economic partnership agreement (EPA) between the EU and CARIFORUM countries in October 2008. It promised a lot but so far has delivered little. In light of the current EU economic woes one is left to wonder what bodes the CARIFORUM/EU EPA.

Professor Anthony Clayton of the University of the West Indies Institute for Sustainable Development said that the EPA has come at a time when the changing global environment provides both opportunities and existential challenges for the Caribbean.

It must adjust to the loss of preferential terms of trade and increasing competition from emerging economies, adapt to climate change and growing resource shortages, while simultaneously contending with trans-national organized crime, rising homicide rates and increased trafficking in illegal narcotics and firearms, he noted.

And “many of the Caribbean nations must do so from a basis of weak state capacity, heavy indebtedness and a legacy of divisive politics”, Clayton warnedIPS News

Unfortunately Professor Clayton’s comment does not recognize the current financial turbulence being experienced by many of the EU countries with Greece and Spain leading the way.

Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur has been a strident advocate of the benefits the EPAs can offer our region by forcing our small countries to embrace the need to become more efficient and competitive on the world stage. The Thompson government since assuming office has paid the usual lip service to supporting the EU EPA. One senses however even before the financial turbulence sweeping Europe took root that there was a wavering in the focus of the CARIFORUM group towards any rapid implementation of the EU EPA.

What was known but in hindsight horribly underestimated is the significant preparatory work which is required to position CARIFORUM countries to benefit from the EU EPA. To quote Malcom Spence of the CARICOM Secretariat, the failure to establish the Joint CARIFORUM-EU Ministerial Council has significantly hampered CARIFORUM’s ability to maximize the various features of the EPA.

BU family member ROK the head of BANGO, a grouping of NGOs has been hardworking to highlight the challenges of implementing the EPA-EU. Feedback from NGO personnel in Brussels Belgium, the headquarters of the EU Parliament does not paint a bright picture for the future of the CARIFORUM EU EPA. As we battle to implement the EPA-EU we should note that negotiations on EPA-Canada is well on the way.

Some financial pundits have predicted the collapse of the EU given the pressure on the Euro. To stabilize the Euro will be a challenge given the high debt burden of many of the EU countries and Germany’s unwillingness to bail them out. EU has been the model of sorts for trading blocs around the world including CARICOM. In light of all that is going on is it unreasonable to ask how do our regional leaders feel about it all? Do we need to re-chart our current path? What is the plan? Can we pin our hopes in the optimism of the G20 countries who released a Communiqué of the Meeting of Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors, Busan, Republic of Korea today (June 5, 2010)?

42 responses to “CARICOM Stuck In Low Gear”


  1. Once again the people were correct and the politicos, technocrats, and academics were wrong. Had all of Europe been given the opportunity to vote by referenda on the treaty of lisbon it would never had become legitimate.


  2. Interesting whenever we blog about Caricom and CSME matters the hits come more from Guyana and Trinidad and not Barbados. Should we read anything into this bit of trivia?


  3. With regards to the EU my two questions are:

    Given that the union may not have ideally accomplished everything that it was expected to accomplish, can any ill effects be identified where any individual member can say that being a member has done more harm than good?

    Or can any individual member say that there is absolutely no benefits or drawbacks to being a member…same as not being a member?


  4. My sunday morning ramblings.

    What we need to rethink is our dependence on trade with the rest of the world.

    Barbados needs to produce more goods for the home market.

    Import substitution should be our focus.

    Look at what happenned with Sugar and Bananas.

    CSME will fail unless there is a correction in the balance of caribbean economies.

    Bajans should be migrating to the “big” countries with natural resources Guyana, Trinidad and Jamaica.Those are the countries that should be the most prosperous
    in the Caribbean.

    Yet the reverse is true.

    Bajans complaining about taking Agricultural land out of production. Prehaps
    we can make a trade agreement with Guyana to lease land in Guyana for Bajan farmers.


  5. RENEWABLE ENERGY RESOURCES IS NOT* FUTURISTIC TECHNOLOGY AS WE CONTINUE TO DEPEND ON OIL…

    We need to move away NOW***

    The Caribbean MUST* advance and advocate “GREEN” technologies and move away from fossil fuels…

    Support: http://www.permaculture.com/


  6. The weird science out here…


  7. @Hants and Atman

    The issue of immigration always rises when discussing trade and economic unions like EU and CSME. Interesting article appears on the BBC website about the very matter. Fifty years later the EU is still battling the issue of migration flows and the correct immigration policy to pursue. Some in the Caribbean continue to simplistically believe it is a cake walk issue.

    Andy Burnham ‘confident’ of Labour leadership support

    Page last updated at 12:39 GMT, Sunday, 6 June 2010 13:39 UK

    Mr Burnham said he was confident of getting 33 MPs’ backing

    Labour leadership hopeful Andy Burnham has said he is "confident" he will have enough support to get on the contest’s ballot paper on Wednesday.

    The former health secretary needs the backing of 33 Labour MPs – he has 21.

    David Miliband has denied being a "bottler" by not challenging Gordon Brown earlier, saying he did not want to "make a bad situation worse".

    And rival Ed Balls has said Labour was wrong not to introduce migration controls on new EU states in 2004.

    Labour leadership contenders have until Wednesday to get 33 colleagues to back them. MPs, MEPs, party members and members of affiliated organisations, such as trade unions, will then get a vote in the leadership election in September.

    ‘Ridiculously high’

    So far only Mr Miliband, his brother Ed and fellow shadow cabinet minister Ed Balls have sufficient nominations to get through.

    But Mr Burnham, who will need to get another 12 MPs’ backing in three days, told Sky News: "I’m confident I can reach the target."

    Continue reading the main story

    There wasn’t much privilege about going to a Merseyside comprehensive in the 1980s, I can assure you of that.

    Andy Burnham

    David Miliband, who is backed by 62 MPs, told BBC One’s Andrew Marr programme: "If another candidate gets to 32 nominations and needs one extra to get onto the ballot paper, I will give them mine."

    Diane Abbott, the only woman standing, has complained that the contest is being drawn from the "narrowest gene pool in history" and criticised the "ridiculously high threshold" of 33 MPs.

    She has the backing of seven MPs, while left-wing backbencher John McDonnell has 10.

    The leading candidates are all white men with degrees from Oxford and Cambridge, in their 40s, who have worked as special advisers. But Mr Burnham told Sky: "People keep saying everyone’s background’s the same, but mine is different."

    He added: "There wasn’t much privilege about going to a Merseyside comprehensive in the 1980s, I can assure you of that."

    ‘Milibandite candidate’

    He said he would be setting out his leadership agenda on Monday, drawn on his own experiences, which would be about "ending uneven life chances in this country, giving more hope to young people".

    David Miliband rebuffed suggestions on the Andrew Marr programme that he was the "Blairite" candidate.

    The former foreign secretary, who was head of the Downing Street policy unit under Tony Blair before becoming an MP in 2001, said: "I am the Milibandite candidate – if you don’t mind, or the Miliband D candidate.

    "I think that it’s very important that we have a political process where people define themselves by who they are."

    Continue reading the main story

    In retrospect, Britain should not have rejected transitional controls on migration from the first wave of new EU member states in 2004

    Ed Balls

    He said there was a "range of candidates" with "distinctive talents" and said he had not flinched, in 2008 and 2009, by not challenging Mr Brown for the leadership before the election.

    "We all have to take our share of the responsibility but I’m not going to make a bad situation worse and that’s what I was being asked to do last summer and the summer before.

    "I’m a battler for the things I believe in, not a bottler."

    Meanwhile in an interview with the Observer, former schools secretary Ed Balls said high levels of immigration under Labour had had an impact on the pay and conditions of "too many people".

    He said there had been "real economic gains" from eastern European immigration but added: "As Labour seeks to rebuild trust with the British people, it is important we are honest about what we got wrong.

    "In retrospect, Britain should not have rejected transitional controls on migration from the first wave of new EU member states in 2004, which we were legally entitled to impose."

    On immigration he told BBC One’s Politics Show immigration should not be seen as a race issue and said he told Gordon Brown over the past 18 months that Labour had been "making a mistake by brushing it under the carpet".

    He said Mr Brown’s answer to Gillian Duffy – the Rochdale pensioner he was recorded calling a "bigoted woman" – showed "he had not been having the conversation because what she said was the kind of things being said by Labour supporters".

    Mr Balls said he supported Turkey joining the EU but said "the kind of transitional arrangements on labour which we should have done to Poland and other A8 countries in 2004 we absolutely must do for a sustained period" as otherwise people’s support for the EU could be undermined.

    Four of the six hopefuls for the Labour leadership – Mr Balls, the Miliband brothers and Mr Burnham – have agreed immigration was an issue that Labour did not adequately address during the election.


  8. “SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST” is NOT* science… It is a Darwinian CROQ*…


  9. @ DAVID

    “immigration was an issue that Labour did not adequately address during the election…”

    I WONDER WHY THAT IS – hmmmmm….

    Let’s see, could it have anything to do with fact that BLACKS* have always supported the Labour Party come rain, sleet or snow… Right or wrong, is NOT* Labour seen as the Party of minority groups…

    The problem in the BRITISH political biosphere is a lack of real BLACK* leadership across ALL* sectors of UK society (academic, business, economic, political, institutional and religious)…

    We got the Black millionaires and the multimillionaire from ethnic Asian groups interspersed with a couple of billionaires but as I have always argued where there is no unity, people fall apart at the seams. Where there is no VISION*, people hobble along decade after decade with the same ‘ole, same ‘ole mindset…

    If the foundations have not been laid (and we can blame the system all we want) then it is useless trying to build on shifting sand…

    Changing the BLOODY GUARDS won’t change an entrenched system which locks out those who are beating on the gates…

    Sometimes it takes REVOLUTION* and INSURRECTION* to storm those gates…

    Question is – who is willing to pay the price?


  10. RACE & its connotations is still a fundamental problem in BRITISH* society… If I raise my ugly head to incite and engender even academic discussions on the subject in an institutional setting like a university – 70% of the respondents are from Ethic groups…

    Why is that you think?

    I have been raising the issue with the BBC & Channel 4 for a 3 part documentary to look at “RACE” in Britain from the angle of “EMPOWERMENT”, upward political and social mobility and whether strides have been made commensurate to America’s socio-political SURGE* since the 1960’s Civil Rights Movement given their legacy of the inhuman scourge of slavery…

    The bureaucratic doors swing like a bloody pendulum as the “powers” that be are first of all afraid of the kind of (what they call propaganda) that will come out of such research findings and the LICENSE* that is given to “GUYS” like me who have an academic ax to throw (sorry grind)…

    Maybe PBS* in the United States will accede to my demands and provide “airtime” and resources to complete this project and maybe then, BBC et al would finally have no choice but to face the music…

    But then there is always AL JAZEERA* – LOL!!!


  11. @David and Hants

    The EU was established 17 years ago, not 50 as you stated.

    My idea of a SINGLE market and economy is that all members share in one market and one economy…and there should be one common currency. We do not yet have a common currency which hinders progress, and the fact that citizens of some member countries are against CSME also hinders progress. National insularity, cultural preservation, and varying values of currency are reasons why the citizens of some countries reject the idea, while survival and necessity forces others to embrace it.

    I think CSME leaders need to start with establishing a common currency, there’s a better chance that things will progress from there. This move will not be popular among Barbadians, but I’m of the opinion that bajans need to get over the insularity and think more regional and less national. The same applies to all member states.


  12. The following article appeared in the Jamaican Gleaner today. There is a lot of ripple caused by former PM Owen Arthur’s report.

    Moving the OECS & Belize deep into the CSME
    RICKEY SINGH
    Sunday, June 06, 2010

    TRADE and economic disadvantages being experienced by the Less Developed Countries (LDCs) of the Caribbean Community pose a critical challenge to their full integration in Caricom’s Single Market and Economy (CSME).
    These are largely countries of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean
    ARTHUR… did six months of extensive consultations, research and writings
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    States (OECS) and Belize. According to the findings of a just-completed major study, the creation of a Regional Stabilisation Programme (RSP) must be treated as an urgent priority.
    Caricom’s Council for Trade and Economic Development (COTED) will shortly discuss the findings and recommendations of the study, viewed as a very serious exercise in support of “the full integration” of Belize and the OECS into the CSME.
    Presented as a descriptive and analytical 210-page report, the study involved six months of work across the OECS sub-region and Belize by the former three-term prime minister of Barbados, Owen Arthur.
    Submitted by Owen S Arthur and Consortium, the study was funded by the European Union in the context of its support for Caricom. The community’s heads of government are expected to take relevant action based on recommendations from the forthcoming meeting of COTED.
    Arthur, who had lead responsibility for CSME-readiness arrangements while in government, held varied discussions with government leaders, ministers, technocrats, private sector and other representatives to complete four phases of his mandate during six months of extensive consultations, research and writings.
    Revised Treaty
    The revised Treaty of Chaguaramas, which provides the legal basis and philosophical framework for the CSME, envisages “a fully liberalised and integrated market” to facilitate sustained economic growth and development in member countries through production and export of internationally competitive goods and services.
    Over the years, however, it became increasingly evident that the less developed countries (LDCs) of the 15-member community were facing disadvantages from their size, structure and economic vulnerability.
    Recognised as even more relevant, following the inauguration of the single market component of the CSME, was that the LDCs are facing “economic dislocation” as a consequence of the various regimes of the CSME.
    A rupture between the so-called LDCs and More Developed Countries (MDCs) was, of course, never an option for Caricom’s flagship project designed for a seamless regional economy by 2015.
    That deadline, of course, is now to be revised for later inauguration during this decade due to serious implementation deficits in some of the member states — LDCs and MDCs.
    Last year, the former Barbados prime minister started his consultancy assignment for Caricom, in co-operation with the European Union, examining and making recommendations that could enable “the full integration” of the OECS and Belize in the CSME.
    The Arthur Report points out that one of “the chief sets of disparities centres around the adverse circumstances and the weakening economic positions of the LDCs in absolute terms and relative to the position and prospects of the MDCs of the community”.
    The wide-ranging report speaks to the functioning of the CSME regimes for movement of services, capital and rights of establishment, and also facilitation of labour mobility in relation to specific needs of the LDCs.
    Girvan Report
    Among major recommendations for possible interventions at the subregional level are 10 suggested initiatives in pursuit of a programme for Structural Diversification and Transformation.
    Recommended interventions, at the wider community level, include designing of the proposed Regional Stabilisation Programme (RSP).
    Once approved for action, it is to be hoped that the Arthur Report does not suffer the fate of the seminal work by Professor Norman Girvan which provided a roadmap for Caricom’s march ‘Towards a Single Economy and a Single Development Vision’.
    The sequential implementation of recommendations as outlined in the Girvan-authored report remains largely ignored although the concepts and approaches for action had flowed from extensive consultations and research.
    Interestingly, as the then prime minister with lead CSME-readiness responsibility, Owen Arthur had played a key role in the preparation of Girvan’s report.
    Perhaps both the St Lucia-based OECS Secretariat and the Guyana-located Caricom Secretariat can become more actively involved in advancing the ideas and recommendations outlined in the Arthur Report, as well as the earlier work by Girvan focused on the larger issues pertaining to “a single economy and single development vision”.


  13. @Atman

    BU’s reference to 50 years is the length of time it has taken the EU to reach where they are at in much the same way it has taken CSME 35 years to reach where they are at.


  14. @ Atman, who wrote
    “bajans need to get over the insularity and think more regional and less national.”

    Why is Guyana as underdeveloped as it is?

    Why is Jamaica as underdeveloped as it is?

    Why is there such a gap between the Rich and poor in TNT inspite of its wealth.

    How do you level the playing field to create a fair and stable CSME.
    Not by diluting the progress made by Bajans.

    The leaders and people of each country is responsible for their own progress.


  15. @Hants

    The issue of the urgent need to establish the Regional Stabilization Fund mentioned in the Singh article addresses one of the big issues (barriers) to establishing CSME. The EU experience witnessed by the collapse of member Greece and the refusal of Germany one of the strong EU economies to agree to a 100% EU bailout is a lesson for CSME. We all are witnessing the contagion effect of a weak member now joined by other, Spain, Portugal etc creating a drag on the EU.

    Atman it is fine to talk about creating one currency but the disparate levels of development in the respective regional economies makes this a mine field to execute.


  16. CSME is now, and has always been a load of CRAP. It was conceived by misguided politicians who did not have the vision to lead their various countries constructively and whose main interest has always been self centered.

    While they grabbed whatever they could for their personal foreign and local bank accounts, they tossed this CSME (united we stand) foolishness at the gullible as their ‘ultimate solution’ to our troubles.

    As you know David, Bush Tea has been saying this from CARICOM days.

    Even a little common sense research will show that it is has always been the ‘insular’ one like Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman and Barbados (before Arthur) that did well.

    Success in today’s complex world is linked to Vision, Ingenuity and Productivity. There is no real advantage in having a collective of 15 idiots, over having 15 individual idiots.

    The only entity that would make sense would be a political union which is lead by a wise, honest visionary Caribbean politician…… and since a “wise, honest visionary Caribbean Politician” seem to be a rank, outright Oxymoron, we can forget CSME or any other such nonsense.


  17. ‘The CSME (plain & simple) is there for big business…

    This is MULTINATIONALISM* at its best…

    This is as the book (WHEN CORPORATIONS RULE THE WORLD) by David Korten suggests that the agency of globalization has one thing in view – i.e. complete domination of the forces of production, labor and distribution where men become totally subservient to the will of multinational corporations (a neoMarxist perspective held by many)…

    In other words, it’s your J.O.B* stupid – OR NOT!!!

    There are many who use this skewed philosophy to purport that the role of SINGLE MARKET ECONOMIES is the overall economic welfare over time, and in specific terms – the citizens, workers and consumers, who benefit…

    But is that really the truth?

    It has been next to impossible to convey this message convincingly to the good folks in the Caribbean – consumers and citizens alike for many technically complicated reasons over many years; given the robustness of the empirical economic analysis and the political hoopla with which our politicians continue spin…

    The same questionable geopolitical ethic is also being voiced abroad in the EU…

    So we wait to see what traction is made in the Caribbean and how the EU dismantles, unfolds or whatever scenario greets us in the very near future…


  18. @ BUSH TEA

    “There is no real advantage in having a collective of 15 idiots, over having 15 individual idiots…”

    HELLO!!!!!!!!!


  19. @ Bush Tea,
    I agree with you Caricom is a TOTAL WASTE of money, time, and resources.The leaders of each island in the region need to look out for their citizens and forget this nonsense about “one caribbean”. Caricom is dead and needs to be laid to rest..


  20. Sorry Terence, the only effect that the bushman can decipher from a union of incompetents, is that they present a much larger target for predators to aim at….

    These Globalization schemes are all designed to make the rich richer and the poor more destitute. The amazing thing about it, is the willingness of the masses to accept the mindless cliches and the deceitful PR that encourage them to support their own demise….

    …. ‘strength in numbers’ my foot…. that was so in the days of arrows and spears…. nowadays, that only facilitates the enemy by allowing the use of a single missile rather than multiple bullets, to win their battle.


  21. @David who wrote:
    BU’s reference to 50 years is the length of time it has taken the EU to reach where they are at in much the same way it has taken CSME 35 years to reach where they are at.
    —————————————————————————————————————–

    If you are speaking about the point in time when the planning first began then you should make that clear.


  22. @Atman

    Lets not get tangled in the minutiae.


  23. @Hants

    If you are waiting for a point in time when all members appear to be on equal economic standing then it’s a waste time…that may never happen as individual countries. The CSME is suppose to be about starting with whatever you have, POOLING RESOURCES together, and taking it from there.

    Unless we get out of that nationalistic mindset we won’t be able to realize the potential of a regional SINGLE market and economy. CSME has the potential to benefit all member states.


  24. @Atman

    You have obviously not been following the Greece EU financial situation. You appear to be married to a concept which has to be implemented at any cause. We can have frameworks in the region without a common currency. However CSME is implemented going forward it should be obvious the current EU situation will influence the design. As BU family member Jay always opine, what can 15 poor countries poll?


  25. @David

    Now as far as my memory and research takes me, CSME was first envisioned in 1989 and finally implemented in 2008….that’s nowhere near 35 years. So though you may view it as minute I do not…especially when you’re making a point based on a timeline. So can you produce any data to support your statement or 50 and 35 years for EU and CSME respectively? If not, you may revise your statement.


  26. @Atman

    CSME is a derivative of CARIFTA/CARICOM.


  27. David,

    Atman is using the script that Owen Arthur’s people wrote.

    …maybe he could tell us about some of these ‘benefits’ that all the members of a single Market and Economy can have……Owen’s people were hapless at answering that question – all they ever did was talk nonsense about unity in numbers…’


  28. @David

    What happened to Greese would have happen even if Greese was not a member of the EU. Almost every country in the world suffered from the economic fallout to some degree or the other. If the USA was hit so hard what makes you think that an EU member couldn’t find itself in difficulty as a result? No economic system will ever be perfect or impermeable to external forces, and I’m still of the opinion that CSME is necessary for the CARICOM countries even though many of us have not come to that realization as yet.


  29. @David

    The idea of the single market and economy is not the same thing as CARICOM, it involves the same member states, but not the movement of people as it relates to CSME.


  30. You have the last word Atman but understand that CSME is a subset of CARICOM.

    BU will let the finance people on BU explain the contagion caused by Greece, Spain, Portugal and others on the EU investment market because of a weakening Euro. Further the impact of such on a single currency market.


  31. @David

    Being a derivative or subset of something does not mean that you don’t have qualities of your own. If you’re speaking of a timeline relating to CSME, then that should be separate from a timeline relating to Caricom. That’s all I’m saying.


  32. @Atman

    Realise you like a good argument…lol. If we are discussing a matter like CSME and CARICOM there are some givens which are assumed. If we assumed incorrectly in your case please accept BU’s profuse apology.


  33. @David

    And since this discussion started with the EU (17 years old), can you tell me from what organization was EU derived that takes them back 50 years of not being able to come up with the right immigration policy? Was it called EUROCOM?


  34. @David

    I disagree again, the timelines relating to CARICOM and CSME are vastly different and cannot be taken as “given”. What is a given is that both are constituted of Caribbean member states…the member states of CSME are all CARICOM member states.


  35. @Atman…lol

    Have a read at this link, specifically under the heading HISTORY. You wrote you are an IT man so again BU assumed you had honed your googling skills…lol.

    Just having some fun with you Atman. Back to serious business.


  36. @David

    Ha ha ha…that’s ok, I don’t mind you having a laugh at my expense. But again, I find it misleading when you’re making a point referencing the EU and give a timeline based on the establishment of the European Parliament.


  37. Was going to post the article by Shridath Ramphall but he and Ron Saunders et al have become hollow cries on this integration issue. The make flowery speaks with acknowledging the tactical challenges at play.


  38. As expected. As soon as the Jamaica violence is no longer the focal point of the people’s attention, backers of the “One Caribbean” concept will pick up their arguments as if the realities that confirms the reasons for our Anti-free movement of people immigration policy does not exist.

    There is emptiness in the still held belief that Barbadians are insular in their opposition to free movement.

    This is a country that has had a generous immigration policy for much of its existence, so much so that I at 44 years of age, attended primary school with Trinidadians, Jamaicans, Vincentians, St Lucians etc.

    Barbados can still boast of being the only country that has met more requirements of CSME, and the CCJ than any other Caricom member.

    Do we agree that the intent of Caricom and CSME will not be realized without people involvement, and people committed and invested in its success? If we do, how can this be achieved if as was stated earlier, Barbadians and ALL member states need to get over the insularity and think more regional and less national.

    IF ALL DON’T WANT IT THEN WHY IS IT BEING PUSH AND WHO IS IT FOR?

    In this debate as with most debates one must never completely remove a debater’s personal feelings, commitments and life experiences from his or her position.

    Our job is to take those feelings commitments and life experiences and see if they can ever become our very own.


  39. Watch the documentary “Life and Debt” to see what happens when the IMF and the promoters of globalization are allowed to freely prescribe and hand out the economic medicine they tell everyone is necessary to improve the Jamaican economy. You can watch the video in 8 episodes by going here: http://www.youtube.com/user/tigerone1970#p/uh then click on the button “uploads” near the top middle of the page and then look for the 8 episodes of “Life and Debt” in the videos listed on the right side of the page.


  40. In Guyana yesterday a fifteen (15) year old little boy was shot & killed by the Guyana Police Force because he was with a group of other little boys liming by a school & checking out the school girls.An act that many of us as teenagers & young men indulged in.Your Truly when he was at that age also participated in activities similar to that in which that unfortunate little boy died.Similarly,an elderly businessman was beaten unmercifully by members of the Guyana Police Force because he insisted an off duty policemen to pay the admission price to enter his club.That happened in Bartica.Both of these incidences are in today’s editions of the Starbroek News & Kaiteur Nespapers.

    Guyana is a country that many want us to embrace and to allow their nationals to enter & live freely in a Barbados.

    I shudder to think what our police force would become if those rogue elements in the Guyana Police Force had to be part of our Police Force.

    .


  41. With acknowledgement of the notations above on the concerns of specific state facilities of the various island nations, such as the Police, could it also be added that one of the tethering elements to a sound and stable regional integration would necessarily be individually stable and mature regional governments.

    As we go through the island nations, when we assess each in its turn, great concern must then be derived, that this necessary element of stability and political maturity is severly lacking.

    Firstly, we have quite obviously the Jamaica situation and the alleged relationship between successive Governments and the drug gang, which allegations embodies this relationship in the policital will and word of the nation.

    Secondly, we have the ethnic separation in Guyana and to a lesser extent in Trinidad.

    Certainly any sound and stable country cannot have as its moral and mature base a political culture based to a large extent on ethnicity but rather should be based on sound principles of fairness, equality of all and progress based on learning and work.

    Thirdly, we have the Antigua situation, where allegedly, a foreign enterprise was allowed to become so entrenched as to be the major player in the economy and society, clearly dictating political will and fortunes, until a debacle put an end to that.

    Lastly, we have the allegation that there is much corruption within awarding of contracts etc, which allegedly goes across the Caribbean, no exceptions.

    How then, if one accepts allegations per individual state, can one expect to bring together a stable and cohesive integrational unit, with its pillars based on misplaced, immature, unjust and corrupt political practices within individual states, rather than fair, stable and just practices?

    Unless the underlying states resolve such issues or allegations as mentioned above, it is certain that any regional integration movement or organisation is doomed to failure, from the outset.


  42. No comment about the decision by the Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago to send technocrats to meet Secretary of State Clinton in Barbados?

    Here reason was what?

    No wonder our region is slipping.

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