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We all remember the incident which embarrassed the previous government of Barbados when fourteen Indian workers were allowed to work on the new Kensington Oval without work permits. It has been one of the great embarrassments which came out of the Cricket World Cup project. There was also the other incident which occurred at the Four Seasons construction site where Chinese labour was allowed to work before their work permits were processed. In both cases the immigration department of Barbados was heavily criticized for the lack of leadership. The BU household continues to hold the view that the Immigration Department allowed itself to be unduly influenced by the government of the day. To this day we are not aware of any disciplinary measures which were taken as a result of the two incidents.

The memory of the two gaffes by the Immigration Department continues to highlight the open door immigration policy of Barbados. Some BU family members have labeled us xenophobic simply because we continue to highlight the large numbers of people who are being allowed to enter Barbados. Of concern to us is the possible social fall-out by not having a planned immigration strategy towards managing the very visible ethnic population which has grown at a fast rate within the last ten years in Barbados.

It is against this background that we quote well placed sources which has identified questionable immigration and labour practices at a leading Italian restaurant on the West Coast of Barbados.

It is our understanding that a well established Italian restaurant on the West Coast of Barbados has been employing Italians who enter Barbados as visitors to work as hostesses, bar staff, chefs and managers. The simple ploy used is for the visiting Italians to leave for one of the neighbouring islands when their visitor permits are about to expire. When the Italians return to Barbados they are given additional time to remain on island. Two ‘Italian employees’ have been granted their fifth extension for the year so far. It appears that many of the Italian restaurants in Barbados circumvent the work permit requirement using this simple approach.

The troubling matter about what we have reported is the role of the Immigration Department in this affair. How wide spread is this issue of illegal labour in the established businesses across Barbados? We have tended to focus on the construction industry, domestic help and prostitution but what about the ‘well-respected’ establishments which have been able to co-op the local officials to play the game? Note that we stated co-op and not corrupt!

If a game is being played who are the individuals winning? We urge our hardworking and no-nonsense Minister Maxine McClean who is responsible for immigration matters to investigate this matter with haste.


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298 responses to “Do we have a Hole In Our Immigration System?”


  1. Maybe the title should be Do we have a MOLE in the immigration system?


  2. BU why dont u leave the people on the west coast? They have the dollars.


  3. David/BU

    I want you to have a look at today’s Nation newspaper’s editorial and perhaps you may take some comfort from the fact that your words and articles are not falling on deaf ears.

    Now the next step I will like the nation to take is to start putting some of these immigration issues on the front pages.

    The editorial in part stated that with this unchecked migration we are seeing pressure is being placed on school places,water supply and the consequence would be an increase in health problems,crime etc.

    This is the second editorial in recent times that I have seen ‘speaking the truth’ like this.

    Now let’s see if their sister station VOB will have the courage to do the same.

    I would be interested in your view of the editorial David if you have the time.


  4. Which restaurant is that? I can only think of two on the West Coast … Spago’s and Il Tempo. I ate in Spago’s on Friday and the staff were Bajan (and the service was terrible, btw).

    But, you are right, that the immigration laws are very easy to circumvent and lots of people are doing it.


  5. IMMIGRATION. Imagine ~ we TALK about West Indian unity, we TALK about Federation, we TALK about getting together, — but it remains pipe dream.

    Imagine – it’s 2008 – and yet we still have to have a Passport to go to another island and get grilled by Immigration Stuffed Shirts … and sometimes get sent back.

    You know what it is? We Bajans are essentially indolent. And we have developed a terribly arrogant attitude. And WE ARE SCARED TO DEATH of the ‘Indians’ and ‘foreigners’ because we know within ourselves that they are like how Bajans USED TO BE and we’ll lose our jobs to them because we are too stupid to mend our ways.

    THIS is the Immigration problem exposed. Centipede has to say it because no one else will.

    In the meanwhile the rest of the world … the countries of Asia and Europe have removed barriers and are growing closer and closer every day… while we remain at a stand off. You know what the underlying cause is? you want me to say it? OK – Look at our ethnicity … and look at the ethnicity of Asia and Europe and you can see your answer.

    WATCHOUT for the union… Mexico, USA and Canada. Watch this space.


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  7. Thats the way it is Avatar
    Thats the way it is

    Centipede did you attend the “assembly” on second marina chaired by Bjoorn?


  8. So what is new? What about the “tourists” who are employed as housekeepers for many of the mansions on the west coast.The real estate management companies in Barbados will employ a white visitor before a black barbadian.


  9. I made my business quite recently while conducting my affairs coporate barbados, to check on employees with local accents. There were very few.I then check my local newpapers everyday since then and I am seeing daily ads for companies to import foreign labour for simple jobs; gardeners,maids nannies, to executive and middle management jobs. I”m sure there are locals that can fill these posts but the qualifications that are called for( and not needed in the job) illiminates locals. It’s because they have some-one overseas waiting to fill the job in barbados. This is a loophole that immigration has to plug. When we couple that with the influx of illegal immigrants, barbados is being taken over, right before our eyes, because our grandparents,parents and the still alive elderly, has built a very attractive country, that is engearing the attention of the world but greedy, local administrators, rich locals and real estate sharks are willing to sell our country lock,stock and barrel for their personal gain. We ordinary local MUST in block/mass, not only speak out but rise up and put an end to this RAPE. If this trend continues, our children with degrees would either have to leave the island for greener pasture or stay here and be subservient to the wealthy white. I call this “modern day slavery.” Let’s start a movement to educate these sleeping bajans to wake up to reality.


  10. It’s Il Tiempo on the west but this is also the practice at Mama Mia and the new Il Forno on the south. It’s baffling!!!


  11. To – Thats the way it is – no. And to be exact the whole matter doesn’t interest me. What it is, is this… if you’re going to have development you have to have change. The easiest thing in the world (and you don’t have to be a UWI scholar) is to sit on the fence and take pot shots, carp and complain. In the end this is what it is… I’m saying THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN NOTICE…. whenever there is a major development project… it’s the Whites who are doing it. I don’t know of one single fellow black Barbadian who is putting their money where their mouth is… do you?

    And to Heaven who said “The real estate management companies in Barbados will employ a white visitor before a black barbadian.” Tell me, Heaven, WHY IS THIS SO? There’s got to be a reason. Is it simply a COLOR-OF-THE-SKIN problem? Let’s hear your scholarly answer.

    To Scout, in your post above…. if indeed what you write is factual, then I ask you – as I’ve asked Dream – WHY IS THIS SO? There’s got to be a reason (and don’t tell me it’s because you can hire a ‘foreigner’ for less money) – that may be the case in some instances but cartainly not in all.

    Do you know… a Company advertises a position and states qualifications needed. People apply and send their CV. They are called in for an interview. Do you know what the interview is about? It’s not about ‘qualifications’ … these have been given in the CV and found acceptible. The interview is about personality, about one’s manner, about one’s ability to converse in a lucid way, and so on. And this is where so many Bajans fall down… they think just because they have the “papers” it’s all that’s needed. Six people with the same “papers” will lose to the one who is most “charming.”

  12. Thats the way it is Avatar
    Thats the way it is

    What doesnt interest you centipede? You say that but go on to say that as far as you are concerned black Bajans dont deserve to work in their own country. Yes thats what you are saying. Bring in the charming foriegners and we already know the pigment of these foriegners and turn away the locals who slaved ,built and developed Barbados. The unfortunate thing is we know your outlook is dominant among the wealthy elite. Ive got news for you. Never again will we be enslaved and dominated . This is an ongoing battle.

  13. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    Can anyone tell me more about a rumour that there is an illegal fee of Bds $ 5,000.00 being charged by top officials within the immigration dept for issuance of work permits??????????


  14. I would not suggest that it is not possible, for on “merit” a foreigner to be given a position before a Barbadian. However, in a small island where good jobs are much sought after; the black Barbadian should not have to prove he/she is better than the white foreigner.

    He/she should need to prove they are able to perform to a satisfactory standard, and be an asset to the business. It is very easy to write a job description, with a certain “emphasis” which could put locals at a disadvantage.

    To suggest that a Barbadian should always have to prove, he is better than a foreigner to secure a position, in his native country… is to turn logic and common sense upside down.

    The Barbadian through his family for many generations has made a – societal – investment in Barbados. It is through his family’s labours and sacrifice that there is a Barbados for the foreigner to come to…that should not be forgotten.

    I am not suggesting that foreigners should not be given employment. What I am suggesting, is that obstacles should not be put in the way of native Barbadians, to prevent them obtaining employment.

    The argument that Barbadians are indolent etc has no substance. If that was the case, Barbados would not be the place it is.

    Why is it that many Barbadians go abroad to the UK, Canada, America and many other places and are very successful, withou any network to assist them.

    They achieve through hard work and much dedication.

    With regard to black businesses, successive Governments have always taken the “easy option” and given contracts to white businesses. The belief being, they will deliver.

    This is not a healthy state of affairs. You should not have a situation where a small white percentage controll most of the economic levers of the country…it is not healthy for long term societal cohesion.

    It is the “duty” of Government to help small black businesses. I do not mean give them money, or unfair advantage, but training through educational institutions. With due regard to specific knowledge, in the areas in which they do business.

    Underscoring the problems we have is that “some” note I say some, local whites, believe that white foreigners would rather deal with a white person than a black Bajan.

    What they do is superimpose their local prejudice on a situation where there is no need for it.

    White people who come to a country, where there is s majority black population, cannot be surprised to interact with black people.


  15. Centipede your prejudice is coming through.Your argument isweak and nonsensical.There is a trend to marginalise black Barbadians in this country.This country is heading the wrong direction and the shit is about to hit the fan and it will be sorry state for all of us including the wealthy who live in their enclaves.Check Trinidad & Guyana .The wealthy in those countries are under attack.The kidnapping of their children .robbing of theeir businesses and the murder of them.They are wealthy but not safe.Barbados is heading in that direction.Take away the means from people to sustain ther lives and their families and see what are the result.
    Our immigration policy is to open and lax.As a result all type of scoundrels are coming under the pretext of setting up businesses or having special skill that the country need .After they settle their racism,comtempt and hate for us blacks are manisfested in thier behavior.It happens every day.But you know what Barbadians are not stupid anymore and we are going tom fight back and reclaim this country for our children.
    Barbados could do without the likes of stupid Centipede and those who think like him.We will run you and your family out of Barbados.
    Racism against black people will never happen again in this world and definitely not in Barbados

    CENTIPEDE BEWARE


  16. No,but some of these comments are racists against white people. There are some locals who are white, who are against the planned overdevelopement of our coastline and the selling out of our country and ultimately our bajan culture. Don’t imagine that you can base how a person feels on these subjects by the colour of their skin.

  17. politicallly incorrect Avatar
    politicallly incorrect

    Kay that’s the truth.

    If Bajans don’t stop thinking in terms of the colour of people’s skin it will be a sad day for all of you…….I’m not there anymore!

    I agree with centipede.


  18. People are quick to talk nonsense of racism, if black Barbadians were as racist against white people as some of you suggest. It does not seem to have done white people any harm, the reverse is true. Evidenced by successive Government attitudes.

    If black Barbadians were as racist as some of you are suggesting, the whites would not enjoy the relative peace and standard of living they do.

    All people are asking for, is that black Barbadians be given a fair break.

    The accusation that people are racist to shut them up, does more harm than good.

    It prevents the debate from moving on and entrenches positions…with more “venom” than clarity.


  19. Centipede……….you get on your boots!!

    It’s about time we Bajans stop fooling ourselves about who we are and who we have become. While Barbados has progressed PRIDE seems to be blinding us to our liabilities in a world that has gone aggressively competitive.

    Look at the elections in the US. They don’t care about the colour of your skin. Who is best suited to getting the job will get the job.

    That’s why other foreign contractors got the jobs for the Garfield Sobers, the Post Office and various other large capital projects in Barbados and some of them even brought in their own labourers…..Kensington.

    When Barbados was in the depths of recession everybody was talking about productivity but nowadays labour in Barbados is pricing itself out of existence and the majority of labourers are black.

    IF YOU WANT TOP DOLLAR YOU MUST GIVE ABOVE AVERAGE SERVICE.

    How come the Guyanese, Vincentians, St. Lucians and all such people whose home country Bajans would view as backward can come to Barbados, start at the bottom, work for what Bajans would reject and suck their teeth at and end up owning the same piece of land that the Bajans would like to own?

    Didn’t Barbadians do the same thing in the Caribbean, in Guyana, in Trinidad, in Panama in the US and the “Mother Country”. Oh Lord you all got to starve out before you get some common sense and stop talking about the colour of all you skin? It’s the colour of the money that counts.


  20. I think I’ve said enough and at the end of the day perhaps it’s only opinion.

    However I’d say to Thats the way it is , Yardbroom and Negroman… as you are (subsconciously?) aware, this is 2008. The world turns and is turning but and you are in a 1920’s time warp. If you, like me, are of the working class and work when the days come… if you have a job and you’e doing it satisfactorily, then that’s cool and your position is secure. But if you sulk, have a ‘sour’ attitude, and dont know how to be gracious… look out… somebody is going to step into your shoes soon… it may be me, or an ‘Indian’ or a ‘Chinee’ or a ‘white foreigner.’ And when it happens I wonder what you’ll be saying. Will you say that “in a small island where good jobs are much sought after; the black Barbadian should not have to prove he/she is better than some foreigner” ? ? ?

    Tell you what, my friends, — you should get into business yourselves — and have to deal with staff/customer problems… and then come and report back here, whether your opinion remains the same.

    BTW ~ remember to point out to me and the others a major development that is funded and successfully operated by us black folks. Remember: a major development, not a rum shop or Day Care Nursery…..


  21. Bajan Exile, I was not going to respond to you or anyone for that matter anymore on your nonsensical views.

    However, I had to say something. I have many friends who hold some prestigious and not so prestigious jobs. And all that they keep on saying is that foreigners hold some of the best jobs in Barbados and even the ones that are not the best jobs are complaining as well so it aint just me.

    Persons give you scenarios about persons who bad talk you so that they can get their foreign friend the job. And dont tell me it aint true. Sometimes people go as far as to let the boss know that they dont have to pay them as much.

    So dont come to me and tell me crap. About how we price ourselves out of the market. Do you think we can go to certain places and “run things” please. Please dont tell me that crap about our pride in our work has dropped and all sorts of crap.

    I and my friends work hard as hell. I dont expect favors. (I dont think any of my friends do either) but come on man let the playing field be for bajans first. dont tell me no crap either bout that is racist. I said bajan (black or white) first. We bajans vote for governments not the blasted frauds who come into my country to try to live large in our open door policies.

    If persons from all over are coming here and living it up at my expense I have a blasted problem with it.

    So sorry for checking for Bajans first.

    When it aint no other place to run too where will we run. Oops I forgot we bajans stupid cause nobody else dont have open door immigration policies. so we aint gon be allowed NOWHERE.


  22. Right on Centipede.

    That’s PART of the reason why I’m in exile. The other part is a whole other can of worms that we won’t go into here.

    I had a viable business but Bajan employees and sad to bring in the racial overtones but of negro extraction and mix, sunk the ship.

    They were not willing to provide the level of service that other Bajan’s (not whites) demanded. My business’ market was exclusively to folk of negro extraction.

    I did not have the money or clout to pass money under the table and when I tried to apply for work permits they were turned down.

    I was unable to do all the work myself and hence I had no choice but to employ clock watchers and minimal outpute employees.

    Thankfully I had a back door. Some of you might need one soon.


  23. Centipede, I will not personalize the issue. I know nothing of you, and perhaps you know nothing of me..I will leave it at that.

    There are many spin-offs in seeing black businesses doing well. It is not only the accumulation of wealth for the business. More important is the self worth this inculcates in young black people.

    This belief can permeate society, people can feel good about themselves. This stems from if he/she can do it…I can.

    There is a different agenda to be pursued, people believing in themselves…and the confidence that gives.

    Situations are often seen in “isolation”, they sometimes should not be.

    Role models are not only about sportsmen and singers etc…important though they are. There is another model and we should seize it…it has a long term benefit to the nation.

    I see the issue beyond the “narrow” confines to which it is often pigeon-holed.

    Why should black Barbadians be bit-part players on their own stage. For the long term stability of the Nation it is important, “very important” that black businesses be successful.

    It is fundamental not that we are able to see a difference in skin colour -because it is there – but that our actions signifies we have not disadvantaged anyone because of their skin colour.


  24. Centepede and Bajan Exile

    You both articulate positions that appear to be sound business positions. The reasons you espouse -(competitiveness and productivity), are largely touted by politicians and business persons for many of the decisions that they take…

    … but take a second to look at the situation, put a little differently…

    Let us say that you are part of a family that contains a variety of members,-children, cousins uncles etc. ….Obviously these are typical ‘Bajans’- (‘Lazy’, spoilt, limers etc )

    Both you and I know that, to the extent that this is the case, it is because our leaders have created a ‘gimme’ ,free- for- all, ‘do -as-you-like’ society.

    What is the solution to this dilemma?

    .. you say ‘throw out the lazy cousins, children and uncles and bring in some hard working neighbors’ to do the work in the family business?

    Bajan Exile says pack up your bag and run off to a new village where you will not have to cope with your hopeless family?

    Government officials say we should open our doors so that other families could send us their cousins who are willing to run and work in the family business much more economically than our kin….

    That approach sounds sensible to you two? Dat don’t sound like family suicide? like killing your own family? like MADNESS?

    Gentlemen, the solution is so simple…

    We have to save our family situation. We have to save our children. We have to restore PRIDE in our cousins and aunts.

    Exile Baje, trust Bush tea… the MAJOR problem with unproductive employees lies in POOR MANAGEMENT.
    Good productive staff RESULT from enlightened and creative MANAGERS…. when you point a finger at your staff you check where THREE other fingers are pointing…

    ….note, I am not saying that this is a SIMPLE matter to address, I am saying it should be simple to SEE the problem.

    The real culprits in this problem has been successive governments of jokers who provided little leadership, did NOT inspire pride in country, messed up education, lowered standards…. and then decided that Bajans were ‘no good’ and that the solution was to import outsiders – both rich, bright foreigners who now own all our assets, as well as poor unskilled chinese and others who are so desperate that they would do anything for little….

    WHAT WE NEED IS LEADERSHIP…

  25. Gabriel the Horn Blower Avatar
    Gabriel the Horn Blower

    ” remember to point out to me and the others a major development that is funded and successfully operated by us black folks.”

    Well what about..

    – Rayside Construction
    – Nation Publishing and Star Com
    – Brankers
    – Eddies Trading
    – Solar Dynamics
    – Selby, Rose and Mapp (architects)
    – Hills Manufacturing
    – Jose and Jose
    – Apex Construction
    – Pianoman
    – Trowel Plastics
    – Gas Products
    – Hinds Transport
    – Lyndhurst Funeral Home
    – Consumers Guarantee Insurance (ok there are some whites but a lot of the original investors were black)
    – Barbados National Bank (at least before the Trinis bought it)
    – Trident Insurance

    Can I include the attorneys at law, the doctors, the engineers, the accountants and other professionals many of whom make millions per year ?

    Let us not ignore the PSV system and the credit unions (this is huge!).

    May I gently suggest that we, black Barbadians, are doing a whole lot more than which we give ourselves credit for. There is of course much, much more to be done (300 years of inequality and iniquity will not be reversed and forgotten in 40 odd years) but it is for us to show our young people that we have made substantial progress AND that it for them to push even harder so as to consolidate those hard won gains and keep progressing.


  26. Bush Tea occasionally, I read some of your arguments and opinions. And I will be quite honest i dont agree with all, but you see this one I do agree emphatically.

    However all of us bajans are not the same. I am not that old and I for one work and work hard. I realise that nothing in this life is for free. And there are many bajans who are like me. Who have family and love Barbados with all of their heart.

    Moreover, I think they should be Leadership, and believe me if David Thompson dont do it for us young people we will continue searching. We realise that we have to make a difference in our mindset when it comes to work ethics, and believe me I try to do this so my children can realis e that nothing comes free.

    But oh Lord Bush Tea when we try to come good ‘so to speak’ persons give foreigners first option. And I really think that is unfair, we need to lead by example. Strong Leadership makes persons want to achieve!


  27. I am sick and tired of people both bajan and non bajan refering to black Barbadians as lazy and no good. I will ask two questions I ask before.
    (1) Who built Barbados to the position it is today
    (2) If foreign workers are so productive and have good work ethics why didn’t these workers exhibit those attributes in their respective countries and buld their countries.
    Every day hard working black Barbadian workers are criticise and ridicule and ostracise and we must accept that in our own country.Iwill not accept it.The labels being attach to me will not daunt me or deter me to stand up for what I believe is right and honorable.The bashing of Barbadian workers must stop. We have bums,lazy and no good people in Barbados that could be find in every country in the world.There is not one country on the face of the earth that lazy no good people can not be found.Barbados is no exception.
    I am a black hard working Barbadian who have two jobs and have damn good work ethics.I work hard for whatever I want in life.I need no hand outs from anyone.I know of many other black Barbadians who are also holding two jobs to support themselves and their families.Will we be consider as lazy and no good?
    There is a definitely ploy to change the demographic make up of Barbados and all efforts are being done to achieve this objective.That is one of the reasons for the deliberate marginalisation of black Barbadian workers.People of other ethnicity are jealous of the standard of living that black Barbadians have today.I know this as a fact because of my interaction with people on other ethnicity.They are jealous of our success as black people. Furthermore when I go to some of those countries and see their abject poverty and despicable conditions that many people of other ethnicity live under.It is pure envy and jealousy that black people who their consider to be of less quality than themselves enjoying a better standard of living than those people. My fellow black Barbadians brothers and sisters beware there is a conspiracy to sabotage this country and roll back the benefits that our Parents,Grand parents and Great grand parents worked so hard to achieve


  28. Gabriel The Horn Blower

    Thanks for highligting the successesof many black Barbadians businesses


  29. Negroman
    That’s exactly what I was saying earlier, all that our foreparents worked so hard for,we are allowing all and sundry to usurp us of our inheritence. What will our offspring think of us if we sit idle and let this happen


  30. Maxine MAXINE MAXINE MAXINE MAXINE

    Barbados needs to hear your voice or your party voice on this issue.

    We know you are a no nonesense woman – what is the DLP Government doing about the large immigrant population here in Barbados?


  31. I agree. Home drums beat first. But home drums come in many different shades. I agree with the hornblower that we do not recognise our own achievements. If we had not gotten to this stage we would not be having this discussion as no one would be trying to come here to stay.


  32. We need to stand united on this one Barbados.

    Negro man you are right I know how hard my parents worked for me and I do it now for my children. Yes as i’ve said that some people are lazy but not all.

    We have to make this Government understand that we voted for change. Change for the betterment of Barbadians. We are the ones who have to live here. Even if we go to work some where we always want to come back home. Our previous leaders (dont mind the last one rob we blind) had visions. Therefore, that is why we are proud black peole who have done the unachievable and that is to survive. Proud black people, well rounded in principals and values.

    We cannot give that up. These immigration policies need to be revised. There are a potential threat to our society.


  33. Why should black Barbadians be bit-part players on their own stage. For the long term stability of the Nation it is important, “very important” that black businesses be successful
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    True words my brother. I believe the biggest hindrance to Barbados going to the next level is the economic road block set up by the rich white minority. As we can see from reading Centipede these people make no connection between black businesses failing and their own well being. Did someone say they are selfish? Yes but not only that these people demonstrate they have no sense of the broad national good. Once their pockets are bursting and their close knit group are living large and lavishly to hell with the majority.

    Centipde way of thinking is what I encounter everyday working with the wealthy elite. They denigrate us saying we are lazy and looking for hand outs although our unpaid labour for much of 400 years have made them wealthy. We are at a stand off blacks are the politicians and the minority has a strangle hold on the finances. The day the disproportionately powerful minority replaces racism for the broadest national good embracing all Barbadians irrespective of colour we go to the next level.


  34. Anon we accept that today the Nation took a baby step, which was a giant step for them, when it sought to highlight some issues which as a country we have to deal with if we are are to sustain the quality life which we have come to enjoy.

    We seem to find more energy and tasty satisfaction in debating the wisdom of a realignment of the age of consent, majority and its related consequences. Although our water stocks are known to be finite, our inability to provide natural gas to households in need is glaring, our productivity levels are showing decline, discordant voices continue to bellow unashamedly in the highest forums of the world, seemingly expecting a magical outcome of benefit to self and region.

    read on


  35. Barbadians should recall that part of Sri Lanka’s success revolves around the manadatory requirement that multinational/offshore companies must ensure that locals can do the jobs held by expats by the time their work permits expire. Why is Barbados scared of making this demand?

  36. Jukecheckedeyskirt Avatar
    Jukecheckedeyskirt

    Man you so called analytical minds please WAKE TO FRIGGIN UP. Blacks are being black listed, marginalized and totally ignore (all accept the corrupt politicians and their lap dog possee). And to tell you the truth some of us deserve it. We are so stupid that we have allowed greed, indifference and laziness to blind us from the reality of what is happening to our island. And please do not tell me that we blacks see what is happening. IF we were seeing how comes it still happening? The whites deserve to take over our lands because all we do is sit back and talk and talk and TALK AND TALK AND TALK. The only time we will wake up is when it is obvious that these fields and Hills are no longer our very own. By then it will be to late. LOOK AROUND IS AND SEE WHO IS PROSPERING..CERTAINLY IT AINT BLACKS (ACCEPT OUR CORRUPT POLITICANS)


  37. Thanks David for your response.


  38. MAXINE MCCLEAN

    Please attend to the following:

    1) Suspend all granting of citizenship until proper statistics are done on the number of immigrants and non nationals on the island.

    2) Review and ammend the citizenship bar – make it more difficult to become a citizen of barbados.We are full and overflowing Maxine.

    3)Stop the practice of these guyanese and others coming here and having babies to get citzenship and the benfits that will follow

    4)Give all those illegal persons in the island 2 months to come forward to the immigration department – no more than 2 months – and then leave the island – afterward they will be deported.

    5)Make it harder for those marriages of convenience by these indian guyanese women and bajan men and others – to be allowed to scam the system

    6)Have a stern talk with the ministry of education and the ministry of Health about providing school places and free health services to these illegal immigrants

    7) Initiate talks with President basdeo Jagdeo of Guyana to ensure that he plays his part in this exercise and not offload the dregs of his societyon us.
    Insist that like Ghana – he pays us half the cost of every one of his citizen that has to be deported – because it is we the Taxpayers who are footing this bill.

    8. Get a unified position by your government and get all of your ministers to sign on board – and please keep gorilla mout Sinckler away from a microphone.

    9)Investigate those immigration officers from the top to the bottom who have been involved in corrupt practices of selling passports and work permits.

    10) Set up 2 or 3 trusted people to go through the immigration landing cards and the departure cards,then look at the residency and citizenship grants and arrive at a reasonable estimate of non nationals in the island – country by country.

    That is enough there on your plate to get you started.

    Could you please extend us the voters the courtesy of coming on this site and responding to some of our concerns – as well as to go in the media an reassure us with specifics as is possible – that the government is actively working on this.


  39. History, not just what’s in the books but what’s on the ground; politricks, economics, dollars and cents and not common ones either. Now that is real TEA, or reality.

    Read the” Silver Men” and try to understand the situation in Barbados at that time, particularly for BLACK PEOPLE. Ask your parents about the nineteen forties and fifties in Barbados and why so many of their family went overseas and most of them have not returned. Even Mr. Barrow remarked that Barbados’ foreign exchange was supported by gifts and gratuities from distant relatives back in those days when he was “premier”.

    Reality on the ground: All that long list of companies purported black bajan companies including all of those high income lawyers and professionals. Ask yourself this question. How many of them will survive for ONE WEEK if the foreign exchange inflow from tourism were to cease? Many of you all are refusing to face the truth about Barbados and Barbadians. You have hung your hat on a very high peg. You are going to have to reach it one of these days because we can’t go on talking about black and white when we are more dependent on them than they are on us. They don’t have to put up with that “black and white ole talk and poison” when they go to Hawaii, Mexico, Cuba and a thousand other destinations all over the world.

    Furthermore, how many Barbadians and how much Barbados dollars have been recently invested in the hotel plant as compared to the amount of foreign investment in hotel plant, in training staff and advertising?

    The former PM of Trinidad is recorded to have said : “When Corbeau happy he shit in his own nest”
    Wunna not paying attention to the lessons before you. You hiding behind black skin, white skin for your indigence. You think that cussin me and trivializing the situation as though it were a village. Did you and do you not have a PM who is globe trotting, looking for finance and aid and globalizing Barbados?

    If the foreign nationals take their capital out of Barbados, the telephone company and Cable Wireless would be one of them and you would have no internet service. Of what effect then would the black support on this blog be? The Deep Water Harbour wouldn’t even have a Moses in it and how much sugar you could grow in all those developments wunna plant in the sugar cane ground?

    SERVICE

    Service is what Barbados’ economy is dependent on. What quality of service do we as Bajans provide for Bajans as well as any body else coming into this country? Sad to say as a Bajan speaking to Bajans, it sucks.

    We have a whole schism in the nation between who are Bajans with white skin and who are Bajans with black skin and all the rainbow in between. Instead of facing the reality that all of us on this rock are going to starve if we don’t buck up and start calling it like it is: a black , lazy man is as bad for Barbados as a white one and anybody that is not pulling their weight needs to be told so by the entire society and not only somebody complaining about poor service.

    CIVIL SERVICE

    Where has there been any improvement in their productivity or accountability for all the old talk about PS REFORM? Check the hospital for one, where an employee could be found damaging equipment and you all crying black people getting discriminated against. WHO IS SABOTAGING THE BLACK PEOPLE’S HOSPITAL.? Where do the replacement parts/equipment have to come from? Africa???? Every time a Bajan thinks about damaging something in Barbados, he should be thinking about what it will cost his children. Every Bajan who thinks he is going to work and carrying home more than he is due should remember that he has got children that will come along and find a POOR COUNTRY. You can’t take out more than you put in. Ask Mr. Rayside or any other Bajan business man.


  40. I can see there is work to be done

  41. Gabriel the Horn Blower Avatar
    Gabriel the Horn Blower

    Bajan exile condescendingly wrote

    “Reality on the ground: All that long list of companies purported black bajan companies including all of those high income lawyers and professionals. Ask yourself this question. How many of them will survive for ONE WEEK if the foreign exchange inflow from tourism were to cease?”

    Firstly why is the word “purported” in there? Someone asked for some examples of black led companies/developments so I listed a few. Many people argue and behave as if blacks are not making any contribution to what this country achieved. Dr Courtney Blackman made the point some time ago, that if we wish to argue that the whites are is such control then they will also have to receive the praise for what Barbados has achieved. He rejects that view and posits that it is the management and vision of the Black led Government that has got us here. I will not be so silly as to argue that whites do not have an influence disproportionate to their numbers but that is history’s legacy and it is my belief that Black Barbadians and White Barbadians are working to correct this. I can imagine the cynical expressions but what is the alternative position? So back to that word “purported”. Its presence points to the doubt, the disbelief really, that Black people can achieve and prosper. Furthermore, just to cover his sorry position, this exile, then seeks to diminish their importance by contrasting them with the tourism sector. Well I humbly suggest that the same tourism sector wont survive one week without their services, please consider that as well.

    The issue as I see it, is that Barbados may be in danger of losing its way. Yes we need investment and so may invite foreigners here. Yes there may be shortage of some skills, so in the short term we may invite appropriately skilled foreigners in. However, I believe that there is a sense that all is not well, that some investors are not really investors but pirates, that some skilled persons are not really skilled but scabs.

    I hope I am not being romantic but it is my understanding that most of the foreign investors of the past had a deep love and respect for what Barbados was and could become. They in fact lived with us, not just resided here, secluded in some gated community where they could make their snide remarks about “the natives” and half jokingly remark how silly of their countrymen to have let the island “get away from our grasp”. Those investors of the past sent their children to our schools, ate Barbadian foods with a relish, supported our artisans, sportsmen and artists and in the end became …Barbadians. This new lot just sees a quick dollar, Barbados is for them a geological entity nothing more. We, the people, are invisible and when we do become visible we are accepted in the same way one accepts sand flies at the beach in the evening..they are there but how can one get rid of them?

    The sad thing is that these new pirates are being aided by some Barbadians who argue as to how much they are needed, “what else can we do?” , “everybody wants to get to heaven but nobody wants to die to get there”, These lazy Black people…” and on and on. They plunder our lands, block off our beaches, cause the prices of everything to increase beyond our reach. We are made to feel unwelcome in our own country. We start to doubt ourselves, our accomplishments, our own history of innovation, thrift and progress. We bemoan every institution, everything that is us. We are told that without these foreigners everything will fall apart, we will be reduced to paupers picking “pond grass”.

    We must not ignore our history. These islands made Britain rich. Britain exchanged a Canadian province for St.Lucia. The fortunes of West Indian planters built some of the great houses and buildings of England. Barbados for 300 years was a net contributor to the British treasury not the other way around. The travesty of that history is that all that wealth was made on the backs of Black labour who were denied any reasonable share of that bounty. So now we must toil again, face the burning rays of the sun again to build new wealth BUT THIS TIME, in the evenings of our days WE will sit at the banquet table and laugh and feast and GIVE THANKS to our GOD, WHO MADE US STRONG as we go FORWARD IN THIS GENERATION TRIUMPHANTLTY.


  42. The general topic in this thread is an on-going one with no end. Thank you all for your appraisals of my point of view.

    In closing I’ll just ask one question which I’ve posed before but isn’t being addressed…

    IF there is ‘discrimination’ against Bajan Black People in the work arena, and IF ’employers’ seem to prefer to hire non-blacks, and IF black people just sit on their thumbs and don’t step into the area of land development and other fields of ‘big business’ … WHY IS THIS SO? There has to be a reason. WHAT IS THE REASON?

    Look at the countries of the world that are forging ahead – notably in Asia and the Far East. What are these people doing that we are not?

    Read in the Nation about the backwardness of our tourism outlook; notice the take-over of our large businesses by Trinidadian firms; smile at the Minister of Education’s comments about poor exam result – especially in the fields of English and composition.

    We do nothing more than carp and complain, talk, talk, talk and talk, and look for someone other than ourselves to blame for our short comings. This is not the way forward for us blacks. The Indians and the Orientals and the ‘foreigners’ and the ‘whites’ have a different outlook… an outlook that engenders success. We just don’t want to acknowledge it.


  43. Centipede
    Thanks for your final comment on this issue.Your views are so warp that we could do without them.
    Centipede who are owners and administrators of large and powerful commercial banks in Barbados and Caribbean?Are blacks the owners of these large banks. Centipede do you consider the lending criteria of these banks.Did you listen to Rawle Eastmond the MP fo St James North and his comments on the banking situation in Barbados.If not please get a copy of the newspapers and read his comments.Centipede did you remember Rawle Brancker and other black business people who opened the Bayshore Complex and tried to establish a night Club and the hassle that group received from Scotia Bank.Rawlw Brancker went public with his plight.Scotia Bank could not reply to his accusations. Centipede Do you know that the commercial banks in Barbados force the stupid Owen Arthur administration to change the lending policy and mess up the credit unions in Barbados.Get copies of the admendments to the Credit Union act that practically tied the hands of Credit Unions.
    Centipede I am in possession of some information about the efforts to curtail and destroy emerging black businesses in Barbados.
    Centipede in closing it is the white importers who were envious of the success of Neville Rowe and Julie N that orchestrated the demise of Julie N.Centipede I could go on and list many other cases of sabotage of black businesses in Barbados.Remember the Reconditioned Car Industry.Who destroy it The big white garages in Barbados. I know for a fact that Simpson Motors Limited paid for empty decks from ships from Japan to come to Barbados so that business people involved in the Reconditioned Car Industry will not have space to bring in their cars.That is a fact I have my sources.
    Centipede good riddance to your simplistic and nonsensical views.This country will be better without idiots like you.
    Disappear you joker.


  44. I am done with this now too.

    All I have to say is: Do two wrongs make a right?


  45. Bajan Exile
    You have the right name and is the right place too.
    Stay in exile you are no use to Barbados

    Good riddance


  46. Negro man and GTHB, I was trying to behave myself, but I cant. I have news for Centipede, Bajan Exile, and any others like them.

    A new day is dawning because of persons like negroman and crew. We are no longer being bullshitted by the shitstem. We realise that without us the same way we wont achieve nothing so will they (foreigners) not achieve anything either. We demand respect and the right to work in Barbados.

    We demand the right to get rid of all persons who refuse to adhere to our laws and policies. We have children and we are teaching our children to fight for what they believe and what is rightfully theirs. No more will persons like you all bullshit us And we take it. We demand to be heard.

    Change these immigration policies. We are not letting up. We are informing everyone about persons like you lot.


  47. Bajan exile and centipede respond to negro mans comments. I know you cant. You COWARDS.


  48. I have never heard so much ish in my life. Bajan Exile and Centipede the two of y’all just Ignorant. do you mean to tell me bajan Exile that in your viable business you could not find 10 hard working Barbadians in the whole island. If you pay bajans well and link their renumeration to performance they will be exceptional. There are lazy workers in every country; US postal and social and department of transportation workers are legendary. Private sector organisations can always get rid of their lazy poor work ethic staff. There is always a bajan ready to work hard in a highpaying job.

    Another serious part of the problem is that many entities underpay their workers and dont even deign to remit 5% of profits back to workers as bonus for successful years. why do you think COW and some other businesses do so well; beacause they tie a portion of the workers benefits to the company’s performance.


  49. big whitey really do a number on we people mentals eh…where is the venom and vitriol towards these Italians? i guess that’s saved up ‘specially for Guyanese who are working in Barbados without papers?

    and why an Italian can waltz in and out of Barbados and Guyanese catching hell to visit friends and family? not stay visit? a day might come when we abandon caricom and turn towards south america for good.

    there’s a word called consistency and another called hypocrisy.


  50. The trashing of Barbadian workers and Bajans, has become a popular past time for some people. If these people are to be believed, Barbados was created in “aspic” with no contribution from Barbadians.

    Before stating my position an explanation is necessary.

    I believe white and black Bajans, have made a positive contribution to this country. I have not forgotten the small number of Indians, Chinese, Jews and others, who have also made their mark.

    My concern is, that a large percentage of our poor black Bajans are becoming marginaized. It seems there is no one representing their interest…and they are constantly being told how inadequate they are.

    It is not right.

    I am old enough to remember the parents and grandparents of Barbadians working long hours, for little pay. Suffering great hardships…and they were many. As a result Barbados is what it is.

    It is grossly unfair, to suddenly imply, that they are remiss of all the qualities, that make good citizens.

    The whites are fine, they have the wealth, the black middle class professionals have the contacts and often the security of employment. Some foreigners have banded together, with consular representation, given ready access to the media…often to tell us how xenophobic we are.

    The large wedge of poor and odinary Bajans who have laboured, and continue to labour are outside this loop.

    They are courted at election time, and later supposedly “clever academics” use diagrams and graphs to dismiss their legitimate concerns.

    It is the poor Bajans whose children want school places, who have to queue in long lines for medical attention…they cannot afford private. Who compete against illegal workers for work, and homes to rent.

    I implore the Government to get a grip of the immigration problem…unless it is addressed with due diligence, it will be the “nadir” of this administration.

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