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Submitted by Senator Caswell Franklyn

Many commentators have weighed in on the application of the COVID-19 directives, particularly with regards to the sentencing of offenders and the apparent gusto displayed by the chief magistrate while presiding over the resulting cases. My own view is that these directives are flawed, but for the purposes of this article I would consider them as valid. Mind you, I am reminded by no lesser person than the Prime Minister that I am not a lawyer. But as a lawmaker, I believe that I have an obligation to question laws that appear to my untrained mind to be applied unfairly or irregularly; and a right as a concerned citizen to ask whether my rights as a member of the public are being infringed by the government.

Under the provisions of the Emergency Management Act, as amended last year, the Cabinet was empowered to delegate its power to make rules to the Prime Minister. As a result, a series of directives were issued by her to regulate, and where necessary, punish people’s behaviour during the state of emergency.

I believe in many cases that these directives are ill conceived and contrary to law but I must point out that they are the law and must be obeyed until such time as they are revoked or struck down by a court of law.

I am concerned by the penalties being imposed by the court on persons who violate the directives issued by the Prime Minister. The statutory instruments made by the PM provide that a person who contravenes the directives is guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine of $50,000 or to imprisonment for a term of one year or to both. Since I am no lawyer and not expected to understand these things, I must ask the Prime Minister to explain how she could specify such hefty punishments in the statutory instruments that she has made so far, in light of the provisions of section 19.(10) of the Interpretation Act? It states:

Where an enactment confers power to make any statutory instrument-

(a) there may be annexed to a contravention of that statutory instrument a punishment by way of a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars or imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or both.

My elementary understanding of the law has led me to believe that the Prime Minister has no power to override the provisions of the Interpretation Act. But even if she has, I would still like this Queen’s Counsel to explain where she derived the power to legislate without bringing the statutory instruments to Parliament for approval.

It is my understanding that the Emergency Management (Amendment) Act, 2020 and the Interpretation Act allow the Cabinet to delegate its functions to the Prime Minister or anyone else. But, I’m also aware that section 49 of the Interpretation Act states that any such of delegation of functions shall forthwith be published in the Gazette. At my request, staff at the Government Printing Department, publishers of the Official Gazette, have been unable to locate a copy of the order that delegated those functions. Was that order ever made and published? I shudder to think that the Prime Minister would have been making rules/directives without first obtaining the requisite order that would have enabled her to do so.

As a non-lawyer, I am asking the Queen’s Counsel: what would happen to persons who were convicted and sentenced under these rules/directives? Would they be entitled to compensation or a refund? Or would you amend the Constitution to make wrong things right?


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  1. Also an area of which Mariposa weighed thoughts and comments heavily dealing with laws that derived citizens of due process as govt used COVID as a defence mechanism to unjustly stomp on the constitutional rights of citizens
    This govt does what it wants to do because govt knows that barbadians are not up.to par when it comes to Constitutional law


  2. @Caswell

    Even though you may very well be right with a 29-1 majority it’s a simple matter of changing the law / amending the constitution and making it retroactive. Problem solved.

    We have two Deputy Commissioners of Police and two Senators to show us how it is done!

    Just Observing


  3. @ Masey Green. Our Davie gun love this 🎼🎹

    Ladies and Gentlemen, this is captain Tobias Wilcock welcoming you aboard Coconut Airways flight 372 to Bridgetown Barbados
    We will be flying at an ‘ight of 32000 feet and at an airspeed of approximately 600 miles per hour
    Refreshments will be served after take-off, kindly fasten your safety belts and refrain from smoking until the aircraft is airborne

    Woah, I’m going to Barbados
    Woah, back to the palm trees
    Woah, I’m going to see my girlfriend
    Woah, in the sunny Caribbean Sea

    I don’t wanna be bus driver all my life
    I’ve seen too much of Brixton town in the night
    Fly away on Coconut Airways
    Climbing high, Barbados sky

    I look up at the sky and I see the clouds
    I look down at the ground and I see the rain go down the drain
    Fly away on Coconut Airways
    Climbing high, Barbados sky

    Woah, I’m going to Barbados
    Woah, back to the palm trees
    Woah, I’m going to see my girlfriend
    Woah, in the sunny Caribbean Sea

    Far away from London town and the rain
    It’s really very nice to be home again
    Mary-Jane, in the Coconut Airways
    Now I know, she love me so

    Woah, I’m going to Barbados
    Woah, back to the palm trees
    Woah, I’m going to see my girlfriend
    Woah, in the sunny Caribbean Sea

    Ladies and gentlemen, we are now commencing our approach to Bridgetown Barbados
    The weather is fine with approximate temperature of 90 degrees Fahrenheit
    The sky is blue and the palm trees are really cool
    Captain Wilkock and his crew hope you have had a pleasant flight and that you will fly Coconut Airways again…

    Oh Lordie, Lordie 🤣🤣😅


  4. @Observing
    Yours @1032 pm

    But no Integrity in Public Life…… Funny how that works


  5. Once again, our Senator is dead wrong! Of course.

    The Emergency Management (Amendment) Act, 2020 is the first act of a revolutionary new constitutional order: a one-party democracy without separation of powers and a president for life. Thus, the Emergency Management (Amendment) Act, 2020 is the only constitutional regime since its declaration. All the provisions of the old constitution (state organization and minor matters such as human rights) no longer have normative force.

    Consequently, the Interpretation Act is inapplicable alongside this new constitutional law for three reasons (with descending weight): first, the Emergency Management (Amendment) Act, 2020, as a revolutionary law, implicitly repeals the Interpretation Act; second, the Interpretation Act has no constitutional rank and is not applicable beside constitutional law; third, the Emergency Management (Amendment) Act, 2020 is lex specialis.

    Tron


  6. @ Masey

    Yah got to ear Dumplings in de stew wid Alfred, Marvo n Jeannette.

    Yah gun kry fah days n days 🤣😂😅😀de 3 trying to kill people.

    Lordie Lordie dem havin fun 🤩

    Davie loving this gal😘

  7. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Mariposa? I haven’t seen that blogger around these parts in months.


  8. @ Masey

    You say women b backing up when Caswell talking to dem 🥶. Da say he b walking round wid mints n he pocket. I done get it, dem wearing mask now. He need extra-strong from dem hawkers n de bus stand. You got to b lying, cause he pregnant. Or Lordie I went to say prominent. Cramps in ma fingers 🖕🏿

    Walk good. Gossip soon again gal.

  9. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    The INTENT is ALWAYS to violate Black human rights….that has to END…on the world stage if necessary, don’t mind all the bullshite hype, they ain’t shit……….these are wannabe dictators because they know they can get away with that. Black people find it difficult to stand up for their rights especially when deceitful, wicked politicians have the propensity to INTIMIDATE families for generation ….these cases need to go before world courts…..

    you are NOT begging me for votes then as soon as you are elected…wielding ya small time power on ME the BLACK person whose votes you begged and VIOLATING MY RIGHTS to the point….and i can’t even benefit from any of it or my tax dollars, pension money, severance payments or get justice from the JUDICIARY I FUND……unless i turn into a disgusting fowl Slave….oh, hell no YOU ARE NOT…..goddamn frauds.

    “But no Integrity in Public Life…… Funny how that works.”

    of course not, they plan to continue CRIMES AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE indefinitely…..integrity in public life legislation that ACTUALLY WORKS to lock them up….will cramp their style….they disgust people and think themselves so worldly…..pretenders…..a repulsive lot.


  10. Caswell is once again showing he has a better understanding of legal theory than many of our law-makers. Under the emergency legislation it looks as if not only are regular laws suspended, but parliament is also side-lined.
    If so, who is authorised to make law? If Cabinet has delegated that responsibility to the prime minister, as @Caswell alludes to, then we are an authoritarian state, an elective dictatorship?
    Why are out politicians not protesting? Why are there no threats to resign? Why has no one challenged Mottley’s leadership?


  11. “But as a lawmaker, I believe that I have an obligation to question laws that appear to my untrained mind to be applied unfairly or irregularly; and a right as a concerned citizen to ask whether my rights as a member of the public are being infringed by the government.”

    Law is intuitive son
    What the fuck is a stinking lawmaker spouting shit on BU to stir up protests / revolution / insurrection over Covid lockdown for, you should consult a lawyer forthwith for a legal remedy, who will probably advise you to stand down and save money as you would probably lose your case with trop de beaucoup costs considered that will make you well bankrupt is my advice for nothing

    are you the same ‘caswell’ who posts on BU with signature ‘blessings’ for sign off also known as ‘unknown’


  12. Should the Prime Minister be the target to f the lawyer for the state in the person of Dale Marshall.


  13. We disagree with Caswell about obeying laws which violate the rights of citizens.

    Should that old standard be reestablished we will want to question Caswell, as the rightful lawyer of the public, about all the slaves codes still on the law books in Barbados which are generally ignored. For examples, a law stating that African drums should not be use in public places. Should that too be obeyed.

    We understand that as lawmaker the politics required cannot include lawbreaking. For the rest of us untethered by such there must be a morality superior to the contrivances of men.


  14. A recent study showed that the average American breaks three laws daily.

    The fact is that even lawmakers are out of hand. When a society has so many laws that lawbreaking becomes a generalized occupation we have more trouble than we can deal with.


  15. Caswell,s argument would have made the American Revolution impossible. It would have made the Haitian Revolution impossible. It would have made the Bussa Rebellion impossible.
    Be jesus christ, it would have made the Glorious Revolution of 1688 impossible.


  16. The much applauded Civil Rights movement in America was predicated on lawbreaking.

    The Anti-Apartheid movement was predicated on lawbreaking.

    The fight against slavery was based on lawbreaking.

    The anti-colonial struggles in the South were catalyzed by lawbreakers.

    Indeed, most of the greatest heroes in our world are products of lawbreaking.


  17. Caswell is however in no dander of becoming one such hero. LOL


  18. Danger


  19. Caswell

    In circumstances as describe in your final paragraph, how would a return of a fine be sufficient when those wrongly convicted would have been possibly arrested, subjected to an illegal trial, and possibly gone to prison.

    As for compensation should we not be talking about a much greater number?


  20. An unemployed youth was fined 1000 dollars yesterday or alternatively one year in prison. Fine was paid forthwith. One should note that the irresponsible actions/behaviour of a few ignoring COVID 19 protocols can result in millions of dollars in losses and related hardship for the country.


  21. David
    Do we have to have a law for everything? Does moral suasion have no credence at all? Must laws the administration likes be always enforced in most instanced?


  22. The laws reflect the character of the society.

  23. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David March 3, 2021 9:14 AM

    What about the irresponsible actions of the medical authorities and policy makers setting stupid protocols that don’t match the known science and reality of the situation?

    What fines are they going to suffer for their incompetence putting people lives in danger?


  24. Here is the view of a leading English QC; it should be read by every lawyer, every law student, every politician, every citizen in the country. It is a lesson in the rule of law.

    The Covid-19 pandemic has resulted in the government introducing some of the most severe restrictions on public life in modern British history.
    At the height of the lockdown, there were numerous cases of police emptying parks of sunbathers and harassing people seemingly just for being outside.
    Recently, new rules have been brought in to prevent people gathering in groups larger than six, and several areas of the country remain in local lockdown.
    But with rumours of more measures to come, do the authorities even understand the laws they are producing and enforcing?
    Kirsty Brimelow QC is a senior lawyer and expert in international human-rights law. She was named International Pro Bono Lawyer of the Year in 2018, and is chair of the Bar of the Human Rights Committee. She has recently spoken out against the misapplication of draconian Covid laws by the police and courts. spiked caught up with her to discuss the Covid legal confusion and why it is so dangerous.

    spiked: You have raised the issue of wrongful convictions under the Coronavirus Act. What are some of the examples you’ve come across?

    Kirsty Brimelow: First, I should clarify what the legislation says. There were two pieces of emergency legislation which came into force in late March. These are the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Regulations (known henceforth as the coronavirus regulations), and the Coronavirus Act. The Coronavirus Act introduced powers relating to potentially infectious people. The powers it gives includes directing people who may be potentially infectious to go to health centres, and compelling them to stay there – but these powers are entirely separate from the regulations. The regulations contain restrictions on movement and gathering.

    In fact, the Coronavirus Act has never been lawfully used. It has been continually misapplied.

    I became involved in the first prosecution under coronavirus law, which was the prosecution of a woman called Marie Dinou. She was on her own at Newcastle train station, standing on the platform. There was a report from people at the station that she was loitering. The British Transport Police (BTP) came and then decided to arrest her. She was detained in a police station and spent two nights in a cell before being taken to the magistrates’ court. She was convicted and given a fine of £660.

    The police said Dinou had committed an offence under the Coronavirus Act. This was wrong. In fact, the offence she was accused of does not exist. The police used the wrong law for a start, mashing together the coronavirus regulations and the Coronavirus Act. Dinou was unlawfully arrested and wrongly prosecuted. The case was brought back to the magistrates’ court very quickly and the conviction and fine were overturned. The BTP did issue an apology, but there are still a lot of worrying features here. Everything that happened was contrary to the entire purpose of the coronavirus regulations, which are intended to prevent the spread of the virus. Bringing Dinou into contact with unsanitary conditions in a cell potentially placed her in danger, so it was not even helpful from the perspective of health. It was a failure of the whole system.
    The other case that I was involved with was somebody called Lewis Brown, who was convicted for being outside. Not only was the wrong law used, but the wrong part of the law was used. Part of the law applying in Wales was applied to Brown when he was in Oxford. There were also two women who had driven to Preston docks to exercise, and they were fined. That was entirely unlawful – there was no legal prohibition on what they did.

    spiked: Since the beginning of lockdown, laws have been confused – by the public and even police – with government guidance. Why is that so dangerous?

    Brimelow: The Crown Prosecution Service conducted a review of all charges under the coronavirus laws – both under the regulations and the Coronavirus Act. It found 28 per cent of the charges made under the coronavirus laws were wrongly brought. That is extremely high.
    The figure was 18 per cent in the next review. But the CPS accepted that, despite the reduction, 18 per cent is still a very high figure. Behind those statistics is the stress and anxiety for the individuals concerned. The cases have continued to come through despite these findings, and the real concern from my perspective is for those cases that have no safeguards and cannot be reviewed. That is the case with fixed-penalty notices, where there is no appeals process. Without safeguards, there is a much higher likelihood that such fines are being issued wrongly. All people who face these fines can do is pay or take their chances in court, and if they lose in court they end up with a criminal conviction. I have been calling for a review by all police forces of the fixed-penalty notices that have been issued, but this proposal has been rejected.

    spiked: Why do you think the law is being so routinely misapplied?

    Brimelow: The government has to take a lot of responsibility. Guidance is very different to law, but what has been happening right from the early stages has been that the government has been saying what it thinks people should do, and that advice has been more strict than the law itself. As a result, police chiefs and even ministers have become confused as to what the content of the law is. There is often a lag of a few days between government guidance being announced and the introduction of laws, and police have acted according to what they had heard pronounced by ministers, rather than what was actually contained in the regulations.
    The law has the power to criminalise people. Breaching guidance should not result in criminal prosecution. It would be really easy for the government to say what they think people should be doing, but make clear that the law itself is less strict. The law is the law, but mashing it together with guidance can have advantages for governments. It allows them to protect ministers who break the law themselves, letting them argue they have not broken the law, but just the rules.

    spiked: You have said that the way lockdown was implemented and policed has damaged the rule of law. What do you mean by that?

    Brimelow: The rule of law developed to protect the weak and vulnerable from the strong, and to treat people equally. That has been hard fought for. That equal application of the law cannot be dependent on positions of power. The rule of law is also there to prevent the government from acting illegally. The government cannot subject us to restrictions and punishments unless justified by law. The rule of law goes back centuries, and if you emasculate it or hack away important elements of it, what you end up doing is actually cutting away protections from the people who most need it, because generally those in power are guaranteed to have sufficient strength not to need to fall back on an equal system. And you can see this when you look around the world where the rule of law is completely compromised in terms of independence and equality. It places you on a road to tyranny.

    spiked: The government has introduced new regulations – most recently on local lockdowns – with little to no parliamentary scrutiny. Why do you think there has been so little opposition to this?

    Brimelow: The laws have come into force with less scrutiny than you would get for a new series on Netflix. It’s been quite stark. The government felt it had to act rapidly in the face of the virus, understandably. But there’s no justification for ongoing revision of law without it going through parliament. The reason why parliament is so important is it raises checks and balances. It allows arguments to be put forward against what is being done. It lets you ask if the laws are catching too many people, and ask what the justification for criminalising people is. I would have expected a rigorous debate on whether we really need the enforcement to include criminalisation, but it didn’t happen.
    The political strategy of being a ‘critical friend’ of the government was understandable in the face of a serious virus. But at the same time, we have ended up with laws that actually are not even fulfilling the purpose of preventing the spread of the virus. In fact, it has moved from that core purpose, and laws are really being used as an exercise of power by police, who are not considering the health and safety aspect. I would not necessarily put all the blame on the officer on the street, as it can be very difficult to understand all these laws that are coming thick and fast. But when you have macho signalling from police chiefs, such as suggesting officers may inspect shopping trolleys to make sure all shopping is essential, you see a real lack of common sense, and a failure to acknowledge the fact we are a nation where the police are meant to operate by consent. This runs contrary to the fact that enforcement is meant to be a last resort….(Quote)


  25. @CA

    There are consequences for incompetence and good management. The measure is in the outcomes. As a civil society we are to actively engage by discharging our civic responsibilities and deal with the chips where they end up. It is an iterative process is it not? No binary issue here to solve.

  26. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David March 3, 2021 9:23 AM

    No David, the laws reflect the character, nature and insensitivity of the people in charge.

    The vast majority of society agree most of the law is stupid and heavy-handed but they have no say in the matter.


  27. @CA

    Your position is supported if civil society is passive with the system. It is not suppose to be.

  28. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @David March 3, 2021 9:27 AM

    The people in charge never have to deal with the consequences. They either structure it so they cannot be held accountable or they shift blame to those unable to defend themselves.

    Look at the blame they put on a bus crawl for something that must have started at the prison. I have heard nothing more about the source of that cluster.

    We had a media report of known COVID positive people running around trying to pay bills and buy groceries before they went into isolation. But instead of patching those glaring dangerous holes, we want to heavily fine and imprison people under severe stress for doing very low risk activities.


  29. This is the point, through people advocacy they should have to deal with the consequences. We have absolved ourselves from our prime responsibility in the system of governance. We prefer to wallow in political partisan narrow interest irrelevance.


  30. @CA
    What about the irresponsible actions of the medical authorities and policy makers setting stupid protocols that don’t match the known science and reality of the situation?
    +++++++++++++
    Why don’t you give us a rundown of what the authorities should do that doesn’t match your rhetoric of “nuff sea baths, playing on the sand and fresh breezes”?


  31. @Sarge
    Why don’t you give us a rundown of what the authorities should do that doesn’t match your rhetoric of “nuff sea baths, playing on the sand and fresh breezes”?

    You left out “not wearing masks”


  32. David
    Character of the society? Seems that they are generally copied from elsewhere.

  33. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @Sargeant March 3, 2021 10:07 AM @TheOGazerts March 3, 2021 10:09 AM

    I will give you three simple things:

    1) The government needs to properly tell us under what environmental conditions are our cases of transmission occurring. We have had over 3,000 cases thus far so they must have numbers on where the transmission occurred.

    2) We should research and evaluate the efficacy of low risk early treatment protocols like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin other doctors across the world have been using to determine if they can work here or are we going to wait for WHO to tell our supposedly qualified doctors and pharmacists that have been using these drugs for year what treatments to use.

    3) Tell us the conditions under which properly masks are ineffective.


  34. @dirt farmer
    One of my fav songs..love it.


  35. @CA
    I think #3 is for yourself.

    I know you are serious, but
    #2 I would go with the medical professionals on the island, if I was there. The truth is that if they follow all of the suggestions from ozone therapy to hanging upside down from the roof whilst inhaling menthol not a soul would have covid-19 (all would be dead)


  36. “Do we have to have a law for everything? Does moral suasion have no credence at all? Must laws the administration likes be always enforced in most instanced?”

    It makes the ignorant feel big, good about themselves and in control..

    Even worse, laws based on colonial templates that ALWAYS criminalizes Black populations…

    we will always get back to the reality…that the government created the environment for the virus to thrive and spread, that’s how it got away from them…they gave themselves no wiggle room and advertised the island as basically virus free inviting every infected person they could find…then want to blame it on Black people.


  37. “When a society has so many laws that lawbreaking becomes a generalized occupation we have more trouble than we can deal with.”

    manmade laws, with lawmakers being the lawbreakers themselves, giving themselves immunity….

  38. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    @TheOGazerts March 3, 2021 11:15 AM

    I meant our medical professionals evaluating the research out there and try the safe ones to see how effective they are. As far as I know, there is no early medical intervention protocol in use. They seem to be just isolating and monitoring to see if you progress or not. They are supposed to have the education and training to interpret the material.


  39. Caswell is right about challenging a Queen’s Counsel, since it is not a title won by examination. It is an award.
    However, it now appears he is going back on the ethical position he took earlier, by saying that although the emergency legislation seems to be contrary to law, it should be obeyed. This is contradictory.
    What he should be calling for is a Judicial Review of this unlawful regulation. @Caswell must make up his mind.

    Opposition Senator Caswell Franklyn on Tuesday blasted the penalties being imposed by the court on violators of the COVID-19 directives, declaring that although he is not a lawyer, the directives are “ill-conceived and contrary to law”.
    Yet, despite suggesting a flaw that potentially invalidates the rules, he insisted that the directives are the law and must be obeyed “until such time as they are revoked or struck down by a court of law”.
    The Emergency Management (COVID-19) (Curfew) (No. 4) directives impose a fine of $50,000 or one-year imprisonment, or both, to anyone who fails to comply with the terms and conditions of the ongoing curfew.
    In recent weeks, several offenders have been jailed for breaching protocols.
    The Upper Chamber lawmaker called on Prime Minister Mia Mottley to explain the hefty punishments in the statutory instruments that she has made so far, in light of the provisions of section 19 (10) of the Interpretation Act.
    That law sets a limit on the penalty for the contravention of regulations granting broad ministerial powers to a maximum $500 or a three-month jail term, or both. Higher penalties would have to be fixed by Parliament.
    The trade unionist claimed that under the Emergency Management Act that was amended last year, “Cabinet was empowered to delegate its power to make rules to the Prime Minister”.
    Senator Franklyn however argued: “ The Prime Minister has no power to override the provisions of the Interpretation Act. But even if she has, I would still like this Queen’s Counsel to explain where she derived the power to legislate without bringing the statutory instruments to Parliament for approval.”
    He further pointed out that section 49 of the Interpretation Act states that any such delegation of functions must be published in the Gazette.
    Senator Franklyn said: “At my request, staff at the Government Printing Department, publishers of the Official Gazette, have been unable to locate a copy of the order that delegated those functions. Was that order ever made and published? I shudder to think that the Prime Minister would have been making rules/directives without first obtaining the requisite order that would have enabled her to do so.
    “As a non-lawyer, I am asking the Queen’s Counsel: what would happen to persons who were convicted and sentenced under these rules/directives? Would they be entitled to compensation or a refund? Or would you amend the Constitution to make wrong things right?”….(Quote)


  40. Can you explain why you would post a comment that is based on the original post here. Please explain to an illiterate buffoon of a blogmaster.


  41. Just read the headline of this stream. The subject is @Caswell, the emergency legislation and its legality.

  42. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Tron
    It is high time our Supreme Leader cease addressing the nation by Fellow Barbadians or Comrades, and begin using Companions. Our Great Revolution has been underway for some time. Independence has been such a failure, that any celebrations on Nov 30th must be scrapped in 2021, and replaced with a more modern National celebration on May 24. Even though citizens have not battled officially, they must be reminded of, what they have fought for, the new Republic.
    History is such, that in 50-100 years the Republic’s historians may even be quoting @John on BU as a source of the causes of the Revolution….water.
    On another related matter, given the asset swaps between the UWI and various Nations, the title UWI needs abolishing. The term West Indies is colloquial and a reminder of enslavement. The word University is racist. There is no universality, or recognition of Universe, WE ARE the Universe. University is a construct of white supremacy. Yunifasiti Caribbean must replace UWI.

  43. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Northern….satire or no, that’s why the Black populaton need to remove themselves from the whole system….slave masters committed centuries of crimes then legislated laws giving themselves immunity…they still are.

    ..enter a bunch of 11 plus slaves with slave titles and they too are doing the same..mimicing the same crimes, legislating laws against the Black majority, breaking everyone of those laws themselves, but they handily give themselves immunity…that slave society is GOING NOWHERE..but around and aroung…..

    .the people are already citizens, have nothing to prove, owe none of the thieves and racists anything and can move on…


  44. The Colson4 go to court soon. Their heroic act of removing the statute of a British notorious slave-trader was morally the right thing to do.

    Those who referred to this action as anything other than morally right are themselves criminals of the highest order.


  45. The nation of cowards residing in Barbados will never have mustered the intestinal fortitude to do similarly to Nelson.


  46. It is impossible for a nation which lacks such courage in such small things to have an ability to take on the world in economic terms – for economic development.

    You can’t be a coward in small things and expect to be courageous in things of substance.

  47. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Pacha…they fooled themselves, tried to be slick, thought they were making a fool of everyone as usual…and it would all go away, then they moved nelson and everything picked up STEAM from there…they think they are the brightest and best….that’s why they landed themselves in billion dollar debt, that they now have to find ways and means to repay………😂😂🤣🤣

    ya would think after spending TAXPAYER’S money 62 million dollars on a 2- man consulting team along with all the additional millions they spend on fly by night consultants..they would have solved all the island’s problems by now..the island did not get any bigger..it’s still 21LX14W….they are the ones increased the problems..


  48. @NO
    I have already suggested that a statue of John be placed in Nelson’s vacant spot so generations can gaze upon his visage and sing hosannas, women can rub certain parts of the statue’s anatomy in the hopes that they would become pregnant (not for good luck like they do for rubbing Juliet’s breast in Verona).

    As for the West Indies why should an Italian’s mistake remain with us forever? I am all for Taino at least that pays homage to the original inhabitants and we can all be Taionese.

  49. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    WE are left to wonder. From one of the earlier known images of the Nelson Statue in Barbados, the edifice was somehow elevated in height and turned 180 degrees, so instead of looking down Broad St, it looked the other way. And why did it have a metal rail fence around it in 1835? A shorter and raised version of the fence was in place at the time of its dismantlement.
    http://www.yorubadiaspora.org/s/slaveryimages/item/765

  50. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Sarge
    No objection (not referring to the edifice of course), but I will defer to @MTA whether ‘Taionese’ is the correct extension.

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