As incredible as it may seem to some, the Prevention of Corruption Bill, 2012 has passed the Lower House on its journey to being proclaimed. Hopefully this will be done before the Prime Minister rings the bell for the next general election. One suspects though that Prime Minister Stuart will deliver on this piece of legislation, this is the stuff legacy is built. Perhaps the one regret is that yet again Hansard will NOT record a contribution from the leader of the Opposition Owen Arthur.
A listen to the debate disappointed yet again. Members of parliament on both sides joined hands to paint a picture of a courageous group who has had to bear the brunt of vilification from the public. References were made to the #16 ranking which Barbados holds on Transparency International. The Prime Minister referenced the need to recognize that there is a perception that many in public life engage in questionable behaviour, therefore the need to have integrity legislation. The listener was left with the impression that the government although tabling the legislation, has done so kicking and screaming.
To state the obvious integrity legislation serves many purposes. In private enterprise rules governing code of conduct is routine. It ensures that all employees are aware of the consequences of certain actions. It helps to feed a culture of excellence. BU posits that many practices which currently fly under the radar may be discontinued or forced into the open with the advent of integrity legislation. Should we remind the Attorney General that Transparency International’s ranking is based on a perception index? It is known how PSV permits were procured by may as a good example. A read of the Auditor General reports from 2006 also helps to form positions unfavourable to politicians and others in the public sector.
Finally a word to Minister Ronald Jones who spent some time attacking Barbados Underground and Barbados Free Press. Other members of parliament made veil references to social media. BU freely admits that some commenters abuse the cloak of anonymity. We take the opportunity to remind them that to whom much is given much is expected. to One of the greatest ironies is those most culpable are members of the House and their surrogates.
Mia Mottley is on record of the need to censor the blogs and it seems Minister Jones is so minded. It is only five years ago when the blogosphere was DLP friendly and of course Jones had no such worries then. Good news maybe coming for local politicos who want the blogs monitored. The draft Communications Data Bill is currently being circulated for comment in the UK. The bill proposes that “internet providers having to retain records of all their customers’ online activity for 12 months.” Further that the authorities would have the authority to access “email and the internet. The authorities would be able to see details of who communicated with whom, and when and where, but they would not be able to see the content of the message.” BU will continue to monitor this matter closely given the implication for Barbados adopting UK legislation.
Despite the comments from the government side that this legislation is complex which explains the time taken. BU believes it is the lack of will which is responsible. The government cannot win a political debate on economic policy therefore it is forcing other pieces of legislation through parliament to shape their election platform agenda. BU could care less. Proclaim the damn legislation. All the same kudos to the government for moving the Prevention of Corruption Bill, 2012 through the Lower House. We will continue monitor its progress. It is unfortunate the Freedom of Information Act is not in the frame. One would have imagined this is an easier piece of legislation to enact.
@ Plantation Deeds
Mark Cummins is the Chief Town Planner and there is NO land bank at UDC neither do they own land. Government’s land bank was/is at the Ministry of Housing!!! Up to earlier this year I read somewhere the Director of UDC Derek Alleyne lamenting about the fact they have no land for their houses currently sited on lots rented from private owners. The UDC, as far as I know, deals with urban tenantries under the Tenantries Act by subsidising the purchase of rented lots by tenants from their landlord. In cases where there are no deeds, the landlord refuses to sell or the landlord died, the Registrar of Titles is empowered by law to grant that tenant title and hold the funds in escrow until ownership is settled. The process does not involve the Town Planning department because given the lay out and sometimes small plot sizes of urban tenantries many would not meet the normal conditions for the approval of subdivisions under the Town Planning Act.
DAVID @ When ever anyone is Ready to see ,
moorishcourt@gmail.com ,,,
@Plantation Deeds
Please email BU here.
For what it is worth the Act made it through the House, we await its implementation.
For what it is worth the Act made it through the House, we await its implementation.
ac
david what’s with it and “the attitude” you need some real hard lashes.
@ac
We have had this argument already. Until the Integrity Commission is in place with its mandate, BU will suppressed unbridled congratulations.
So o o the question to me again is who the hell did the UDC pay for the land that is in doubt …?
Passage of Integrity Legislation was the right thing to do but not enough. Freedom of Information is still needed. There is need to implement a prime minister term limit. There is also a need to upgrade the Barbados judical system; it could and should handle its corrupt lawyers and government officials like the United States – have no mercy. No mercy saved any of the following in the United States. Kwame Kilpatrick, Monica Conyers, Rod Blagojevich, Italia Federici, Kevin Ring, Barbara Rose Collins, Nicholas Mavroules, Albert Buslamante, Samuel B. Kent, David Safavian, J. Steven Giles, Richard Tonry, Mario Biaggi, etc
“The Governments Urban Development Commission (UDC) recently got drawn into the controversial situation when it was reported the UDC paid 86 million to others for property that belong to Ms. Beckles. This may require the UDC pay a second time for the property”
More laughter. People go do some research. Firsly, UDC does not sell or buy land and therefore could not have paid money to a land owner. The money would have had to have been paid to the tenants’ lawyer(s). Secondly the Auditor General Special Report on UDC 2006 that gave an account of its operations from inception to 2006, states at 3.12 The UDC received in excess of $8.0 million to pay
landowners.. So it is impossible the UDC paid $86 million to property owners as alleged. That is 10 times the amount they received in total up to the date of the Auditor General Report. Lastly, UDC could not have been set up to launder money from Miss Beckles’ lands simply because, though UDC was established in 1997, the government’s policy to subisdise tenants on non-plantation tenantries including those in ‘urban’ Barbados was introduced in 1999–two years after UDC and four after RDC.
Where there is smoke somebody burning somet’ing
@BAF
You like too much mix up lol. Plantation Deeds could/should keep digging if he/she feels there is a case but he/she has many things dead wrong. When yuh bringing these type of allegations come water tight.
Mark was at many meetings we seen him there more than one time..
Yes you more than likely saw him there at meetings. Searching through the UDC Act reveals the composition of the Board as follows:
1. The Commission shall comprise
a Chairman;a Deputy Chairman;the Chief Town Planner; the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry responsible for Urban Development or his nominee; the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Housing or his nominee; and 7 other members, all of whom shall be appointed by the Minister by instrument in writing.
By the way if I were the Chief Town Planner I would not meet with you either as it is clear to me your situation is outside the jurisdictional control of the Town Planning Department. The Registrar of Titles seems more apt.
What belonged to Violet Beckles now belongs to her heirs. Period.
Look David said that he will publish documentation. In the real world even water tight might not be enough, when one considers the type of opposition that is in waiting. Sorry Enuff, but I am now addicted to this story and I want to know more. I plan to talk to the Broomes people… passed their house a couple hours ago but could not stop.
I listened today with pleasure to the passing into law the Prevention of Corruption Bill this is a giant step in the right direction of good governance.
Sadly the listening public were subjected to the empty headed Bradshaw girl of Pele Parris father’s fame one was subjected to her complaining that it was unfair to her for the public to speak about her theft of over $ 700,000.00 from the EGFL no one should speak about how she managerd to extract $ 700.000.00 in GRANT FUNDING given to her.
Nor was there a whisper from Dr Boolani Symmonds on the matter of this Prevention of Corruption Bill 2012 maybe because he knows that he should be the last to speak as he maybe the first to be caught in this net.
The best advice to be given to this Hot Air machine Symmonds is for him to settle his debts and make peace with his clients and pay back the people for whom he has done work and for whom he has not paid over all the funds due to the clients I refer to monies owed by KERRIE SYMMONDS to LEX CARIBBEAN, RAYSIDE CONSTRUCTION, and PRECONCO LTD. He may well be the fist to feel the full effect of this Prevention Of Corruption Bill 2012.
David when will they pass FOI legislation?
Am I correct that the Integrity Legislation bill does not include FOI?
@Hants
If FOIA is passed it will not be in the current term, it is NOT seen as a priority.
Was it not interesting to listen to Senator Benn today in the Senate agree that both parties are guilty of ignoring the Auditor General over the years?
@ Hants
Man what pass what FOI legislation what?!?
BU David passed that act five years ago. LOL.
Since BU started, Anyone who has had the interest has been able to access almost any information (too much for a poor bushman) and to have wide and varied views on the matter.
Bushie has VERY LITTLE confidence in these laws being passed. Who will enforce them? The CoP and DPP? Two jokers who should be fired? The RBPF – the confession specialists? The Court system – notorious for losing vital Information? The lawyers of Barbados ?(Amused excepted of course 🙂 ), our Judges? Ha Ha Ha LOL wa-loss!!
Our best chance for FOI and Integrity Enforcement is right here on BU. This is why it is important that David not fold to threats such as those from The Gold Cup holder……
….let dum pass dey laws, but we done know that we got them by the short and curlys….NO LAW WILL BE AS FAST, FLEXIBLE, EFFECTIVE, IMPACTFUL, DEEP and TRANSPARENT AS BU.
VIVA BU
VIVA David
…good riddance Onions 🙂
i keeping hearing about the deeds. still no real concerte answer as to have the “WILL” it would be interesting to see documented proof. No lot a long talk.!
@ Enuff .
your efforts to bring a measure of sanity into this plantations deeds cohoblopot will continue to fail ; the illogical , salacious rantings and liberal name calling are to be preferred . By the way : is the Kesington Oval which is being claimed as Violet Beckles’ property the same one that existed somewhere near Fontabelle and was , until recently the home of the Pickwick Club ?
On 08/31/2006 United States FBI and IRS Officials raided the offices of several prominent members of the Alaskian Legislation. The investigation involved allegation of illegal gifts to lawmakers from the VECO Corporation home based in Alaska. One of them, Senator Ted Stevens was indicted by a federal grand jury on July 29, 2008 on seven counts of alleging that Stevens received from VECO hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts that he did not declare on his US Senate financial disclosure forms. Stevens was convicted on all seven of these charges on October 28, 2008. All convictions were later vacated. Another, Don Young was under federal investigation for possibly taking bribes, illegal gratuities or unreported gifts from the VECO Corporation. Between 1996 and 2006, Young received $157,000 from VECO employees and its political action committee. Also, the Alaska State House of Representatives Pete Kott, Bruce Weyhrauch and Vic Kohring were all charged with federal crimes as part of the investigation into VECO.
Senator Ted Stevens (Alaska) BEFORE persecuted and convicted by the United States had received 250,000 home renovations of which included a $5,000 generator. Senator Stevens gave Bill Allen (VECO) a ford mustang worth $20,000 and Allen gave Stevens a Land Rover (SUV) worth $44,000. VECO (Alaska) was major contributor to political campaigns and one of Senator Ted Stevens’ biggest campaign contributors. Congressman, Don Young (Alaska) between 1996 and 2006 BEFORE persecuted and convicted by the United States received $157,000 from VECO employees and its political action committee.
Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall gave to VECO a government contract WITHOUT TENDER. VECO built the prison at Dodds in St. Philip but had no record of building prisons. Certainly, VECO gave them something for such generosity but what? The plantation deeds person no doubt can prove his claim of massive land fraud. The United States FBI and IRS officials through its investigation of VECO (Alaska) likewise can prove evidence of corruption involving Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall; all three benefited from VECO (Alaska) as did the following Alaskian government officials: Senator Ted Stevens, Congressman Don Young, State Legislator, Vic Kohring also Alaskian State House Representatives Bruce Weyhranch and Pete Kott. Stevens, Young, Kohring, Weyhranch and Kott in the United States were all persecuted and convicted. Those three vagobonds, Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall in the United States also would have been persecuted and convicted for taking bribes, illegal gratuities and gifts from VECO. Those three vagobonds [Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall] in the United States would have been persecuted and convicted. Those three [Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall] walk around Barbados with no shame, why not Leroy Parris.
Desperate much? lol
@ Enuff
Do your dirt and run it’ll catch up with you anyway. . . . Dig one ditch, you better dig two, the trap you set just may be for you . . . . LOL Miller and Onions on this blog and the Barack Barack Barack one Mr. Enuff took their licks and ran off. Why don’t you do the same unless perhaps you could enlighten us more of that written above your 3:54pm posting.
@ David
What is there to be gained by allowing this ” plantations deeds ” person to continue this rant against ALL Barbados without the production of ONE document to support his claim that , contrary to historical fact , a lady like Violet Beckles could be the biggest land owner in Barbados ? Is it fair to allow him to continue this wide – scale name calling without supporting documenting ? I believe this is one of the major concerns of persons like CARL MOORE when they speak negatively about the blogs .
@Plantation Deeds
You have until tomorrow to send us some documents.
i am still awaiting to see the real documentation of “THE WILL” plantion seems to have everything but the :Will”
Plantation show somet’ing man, yah losing your audience …!
@Amazing!!!
Another thing: why do the very politicians and journalists who criticise ‘the blogs’ post anonymously on BU?
Another thing: why do the very politicians and journalists who criticise ‘the blogs’ post anonymously on BU?@@
I Think that Enuff might be one or Ghost for a lawyer or friend .
DAVID@ Before XMAS all who want to see can come over MY place and see .
On Nov 29th 2012 We saw Ian Bourne having a drink , We stop and i spoke to him for about 30 mins , He gave me his card and said he will come over and record my words . He was to be there the next Monday at 10:30 am ,@ 1035am i called him, He never picked up and he never called Back. He have my address and phone number and email.
@Plantation Deeds
Not good enough, scan and email some documents please!
516 495 6270 majic Jack number
Jesus H C’rist Deeds, now is as good a time as any to blast this thing wide open. Send David something that he could work with, a couple scanned deeds, the will something, or go away and leave us alone …Seriously ..!
Maybe ol’ Fat Arse could weigh in as to why he thought so little of the individual …
A freind of mine in the process of selling a house couldn,t find the dees however she went to the office in charge of documentation and was able to proceed with the sale. however recently she said she had found the original deeds. taking that into consideration is she at liberty to wave such documentation after the sale. claiming ownership i meaning talk is cheap facts are what matters.
@ ac
@ David
@ BAFBFC
United States billionaire, Donald Trump and other Republican party supports laid claim that Barack Obama was not eligible for United States president, could not prove he was born in the United States. Obama “in time” surrendered his birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii, an area that is INCORPORATED into the United States. . . . The joke is on who?. . . . Dig one ditch, you better dig two, the trap you set just may be for you. He, Mr. Trump now demands that President Obama release his college records and passport. Obama, it seems buried him “still alive”. The three of you have are demanding documentation as did Donald Trump. You’ll get that and want more just that nutty Donald Trump.
Not the same scenario,because if Obama did not produce his birth certifcate the bureau of vital statistics would have verifiable evedience to prove negative or positive. the problem with deeds is that the “will”which may or not be in his/her possession is substantial proof to backup everything he/she is saying and put this whole issue to rest which goes to the very heart of credibility.
We have both Wills Beatrice and Violet Wills,
Well at this point I seriously doubt the creditability of the Deeds character and do believe that he can and will do serious harm to the true hairs of the individual deceased should he continue with his current pattern of chastising people who are NOT in a position to defend themselves.
David enough is enough …!
@Baf
Agreed, Plantation Deeds comments where there is name calling will be removed. If Deeds send us documents which we can validate we can continue the conversation.
David
I don’t know what documents Plantation Deeds has in his possession but I can attest that some of the information that he has presented about Violet Beckles is accurate. In one case someone went to court trying to title piece of the land at Well Gap, Cave Hill and Justice Chase saw through the fraud and run the person out of court. In other cases for some of the same land others were successful because the judges in those cases were not as discerning as Mr. Chase. Beatrice Henry owned over thirty parcels of land at Well Gap that were willed to Violet Beckles and she did not get one. Lawyers committed massive fraud against her.
The problem came with the drafting of the will, it was a very poor job and did not detail the actual devise. So whenever Violet discovered that she was entitled to some property: it was already stolen by route of a title suit.
@Caswell
You have always been on the mark but given the ramification of the charge by Plantations we want to see documents!
Okay. Here is the plan. Caswell Sleepy knows now that he will not live forever. He knows you. Call him, talk to him and have him understand that his weighing in on this will help change the image of the independence movement that Barbadians have grown accustomed to believing in. Wah you say man …
Anybody can write a WILL yuh hear and a will without deeds aint saying much. There is also Possessory Title.aka squatter’s rights. Anyway Plantation Deeds accused me of being a shady character so let me keep quiet.
@ Caswell .
If the drafting was so poor that it ” did not detail the actual devise ” how then could Violet Beckles lay claim to property that was not properly described ? And do you not think that the claim of ownership of Kensington Oval is really ludicrous given our social history ?
All the property that Violet claimed is the residue of the estate that was left to her.
@Caswell
Have received the some documents from Plantations and post them shortly.
Amazing !!!.
Jack Ass, there is no smoke without fire. This Deeds nincompoop is just not the person to be involved with this … that’s all
David @ I dont have a scanner at this location , I took some Pictures with the Kodak I just send some of what i was talking about .A few rentals recorded, Deeds front page, Will, Plantation list from !920 Book and net , Plantation.bb heading , read well, Death papers, Letters of Administration ,front page of lawyer list,Plantation Map from 1756,letter from David PM dated 10th Aug 2009,Demand to the AG dated and April 25th.2009, stamped April30th 2009 and stamped again DEC 14TH 2010.,PRINT OUT front page for 1980,UDC front page of 28pages of houses and people on the land and a faded copy of a deed from well gap cave hill.. i hope that will let you know We are real and no Fraud, Let the other know who cares.
Bajan Free Party FOI we do , nothing to hide to learn the truth?
The InterAmerican Development Bank has recently, under the cover of Reducing Corruption, been funding several projects in the Latin Americas.
The DLP as part of its records short five years in power should try to pipeline a project which would, under this integrity legislation/FOI tenet, create a computerized Registry of all Land/Deeds tekking in all of Wayne Forde documents and the Registry outdated DOS information, a reputable non-bajan GIS firm, some non bajan legal luminaries who ent frighten from the breadfruit swappers bout heah and the not so usual supects and work on regularizing this land title deeds mess.
Until one disgruntled owner of lands tek a 45 down to the offices of one uh dese lawyers and blow out dem brains this rape is going to continue
Den and only den dis shi*e that perpetrated pun poor people pun dis piece uh de rock, yeah right!! gine first get a hickup. And, when two or three more lawyers dead under similar circumstances, double tap, bullet to the head, den dis ting gine stop.
This might seem like sedition but i respectfully suggest that at that point lawyers like Fumble who are known to be honest, gine get work and the dishonest ones gine hafta shut shop, immediately after putting double doors, wid bullet proof glass pun dem offices. They will be out of business because their workload gine trickle to a stop.
We need a Better Business Bureau (get rid of the Fair Trading Commission and the Office of Public Prosecution) which will publish the names of the offending parties, all them in the legal fraternity, and the wuffless architects, and contractors and doctors against whom successful litigation has been waged. (and it is a war)
As long as successful litigation has been secured against a lawyer/doctor/architect/contractor etc., and some lien or other restitution has been secured, much like a bad credit report from Creditel and Grady Clarke tingy, de name of the guilty should be published!!
Babsie does publish de names uh de bullers and Mummy why you bite me’s so why de inept FTC and Public Prosecution Office khan publish de charlatans names?
Publish dem names and this brotherhood of the rose shi*e gine stop.
During the course of the CBC investigation, Lynn Garner, a vice-president with DGM, a private Barbados bank, was also among those tested.
Garner worked as an executive at several money management firms and banks and as the trust manager for the Royal Bank of Canada in Barbados.
At first, Garner was adamant that her bank would never get involved with someone like CBC’s undercover businessman.
“We don’t take clients who aren’t reporting,” she was recorded on hidden cameras saying. “So we don’t — you know, our book is clean.”
But then she went on to tell the undercover businessman how he could hide cash offshore, by setting up an anonymous paper company, moving the cash offshore and opening an account at her bank to hold the cash. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ex-revenue-canada-lawyer-advised-how-to-hide-money-offshore-1.1875481
Special Branch need to uncover corruption among the politicians and nip the emerging trend of politically motivated persecution. We cannot have a police force that is politically compromised.