A Google of Guyana and the links which drop down say it all!

Has Corbin’s party issued any releases?

See Freddie Kisson’s column

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2009/07/30/time-for-the-government-to-resign/

Guyana is headed directly to civil war and after that, directly to hell.
It is time that the U.N. sent down some observers. This is no longer a regional issue and the international press needs to get involved.

When civil war breaks out in guyana, how will P.M. Thompson get these illegals to go back home? Do you really think they will voluntary return to Guyana.

Negroman, I totally agree with you, the time has come for caricom heads of government should call a special meeting to discuss the situation in guyana. How many more individuals will have to die needlessly in guyana? How long will Caricom sit on the sidelines?

This is Freedie Kissoon’s analysis on the Guyana situation right now. Note that both the PNC and the AFC walked out of Parliament on Thursday. Maybe a snap election could be possible .. if such an election could be held in this racially charged situation… God Help Guyana!
–Ecoanalyst

Reichstag fire and snap elections
July 31, 2009 | By KNews | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

These people are smart. They knew that the Simels trial was underway in the last week of July. So the nasty, deadly, plots (and plotters) swung into action. Just before we continue, for our young folks in schools and those still in their early twenties, let us briefly discuss the Reichstag Fire.
Reichstag was the name of the German Parliament at the time (1933) when Nazi dictator Adolph Hitler was Chancellor of Germany with his party being a minority. To wrest total control, the Nazis burnt down the Parliament, and claimed that the Communist Party did it.
So the Communist Parliamentarians were arrested and banned, the Government called a state of emergency, and the forthcoming elections were manipulated to give Hitler a majority. What followed remains the saddest memory in the history of civilization.
My theory on the Ministry of Health Fire draws from the story of the Reichstag fire. It appears that some smart people knew that the Simels trial was about to get underway. The Simels courtroom drama had to be devastating for certain key political elites. And thus the plot unfolded. We know now who did what to whom. More evidence will indict the Government of Guyana.
But let us get back to the Reichstag analogy. The incompetent cabal may not know how to run a country but all over the world and throughout history, unintelligent men resorted to every conceivable method to retain or acquire power. When it comes to the violent maintenance of power, you don’t have to be an expert on the science on how to manage a country. The resort to violence is a stratagem that even the most incompetent leader can successfully pull off.
Enter the Shakespearian moment. As Mark Benschop and the TUC leaders stood outside the police head office at Eve Leary, ideas from fascism began to germinate. Thus was born the Guyana Reichstag fire.
Here is how the drama unfolded in which politicians and unprofessional state security officials met in a deadly confluence. Arrest the three men. Their imprisonment will bring emotional resentment. There will be outbursts from many stakeholders. Others will demonstrate and picket for the release of the men. There will be an atmosphere of uncertainty and potential instability.
In such a vortex, plan the Reichstag fire. The arsonists strike. The fire rages. The journalists write. Then the denouncement comes.
Known anti-Government critics are rounded up. Ethnic-based organizations are accused of starting the inferno on Brickdam. The effect may have been achieved but we in Georgetown haven’t done our research in Berbice and Essequibo as yet. Maybe the paranoia is raging there.
Maybe people in Berbice and Essequibo are already struck with the anti-Black virus. Maybe the fear of “slo fyaah, mo fyaah” is all over Berbice, Essequibo and places like Enmore and Uitvlugt in Demerara. In the midst of this concatenation of fear and trepidation, a snap election may be on the horizon. This is my take on the Guyana Reichstag fire on Brickdam.
Some people think the Guyanese people are stupid. National figures are being murdered like the builder of the CARICOM Secretariat, a bank employee, a strident anti-government activist and so many, many others; they are no arrests, no clues, no police action.
Then a fire guts the Ministry of Health, and the next day, the very next day, arrests are made and more arrests on the days to follow. It is clear that some people are drawing from their conspiratorial activities from the sixties. One of my persistent demands on this page is that we reexamine the conflagrations of the sixties.
I know I wrote twice that I have a secret to reveal about a violent act against Mr. Peter Taylor, the irrepressible, anti-Jagan newspaper editor, but I will do so in my own time. In 2009, some people have gone back to the demons of the sixties and Macbethian witches of that deadly period to seek inspiration for their master plan.
Will it work? The snap election is their only hope of saving power. I believe there will be more police action against high profile opposition activists in connection with the Brickdam plot.
The ethnic factor will feature largely. It is during the Kafkaesque trial of the Reichstag defendants that the election may be called.
The snap election has to be called quickly because the Khan confession transcripts will be on display in October and we may see an early trial of the Reichstag accused. The sad thing about the Guyana Reichstag conspiracy is that we go further down the chasm of doom.
Guyana is definitely one of 20th century’s most cruel tragedies. Can Barack Obama save this country? He should give it a try.
— By Freddie Kissoon

David

Check out this scorcher from Tony Best in today’s Nation newspaper.

One of the best article he has written.

Totally agree with Courtenay Blackman.I beleive shridath ramphal has loast a lost of respect here in barbados and in the region and wider world.
But you know for indians where their ethnic group is concerned they will jump in and defend them whether they are wrong or right.

Read also in the Nation the article by minette bacchus.

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NEW YORK, NEW YORK: Sir Shridath should take back words

Published on: 7/31/2009.

by TONY BEST

“I THINK Sir Shridath Ramphal should consider withdrawing his words.”

Sir Courtney Blackman, the first Governor of Barbados’ Central Bank and a former ambassador in Washington, was referring to Sir Shridath’s use of the term “ethnic cleansing” to describe the effects of Barbados’ immigration policy, meaning the deportation of scores of illegal immigrants from the country, especially of Indo-Guyanese descent.

But why should he withdraw the remarks?

Reasons abound, according to Sir Courtney.

For one thing, “ethnic cleansing” is routinely used to describe racially motivated violence and the killings such as what took place in the Balkans by the Serbs more than 20 years ago, or the rampage in Darfur in Africa.

It can also be applied to the actions of the Germans in central Europe during World War II and the killings of hundreds of thousands of people in Rwanda.

For another, the former central banker added, immigrants living in a foreign country must abide by the law, and if they fail to do that, then they can be deported. Living and working in a country without legal permission breaks a nation’s immigration law and Barbados has a right to enforce its rules and regulations.

But Sir Courtney, a strong backer of regional migration, was quick to insist that the movement of Caribbean nationals into Barbados had brought benefits to his birthplace and should continue, provided immigrants obeyed the laws.

“We have benefited from that movement,” he said from his home in Maryland, just outside of Washington DC.

Still, he insisted, Sir Shridath should pull back his words.

“I think Sir Shridath should take a leaf out of the book of President Obama.”

The United States president recently apologised to a white Cambridge, Massachusetts police officer who had arrested black Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr on a charge of disorderly conduct. Obama said that the police had “acted stupidly” but later pulled back his remarks after they sparked a national uproar.

Rickford Burke, president of the Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy in New York, and a vocal critic of the Barbados immigration policy, agreed.

“There is no evidence to indicate that the Barbados policy is race-based and no violence has been associated with its implementation,” Burke said. “Ethnic cleansing cannot be an appropriate or justifiable description in the case of Barbados.”

The Oxford Dictionary defines ethnic cleansing as “the mass expulsion or killing of one ethnic or religious group in an area by those of another”.

Sir Shridath’s comments were shocking because a public figure of his vast experience and stature should know better.

As a former Commonwealth Secretary-General he should been aware that the use of such emotive language borders on slander of a country and a people, if untrue.

To suggest that Bajans would sit idly by and allow “ethnic cleansing” to occur without an outcry and demands to end it demeans the island.

But where is the evidence to support his contention?

Absolutely none.

Sir Shridath might have to explain why he was seemingly silent on the deportation of Afro-Guyanese from Antigua, Trinidad and Tobago, the United States, Britain and Canada, because they broke those countries’ immigration laws but turned to incendiary language when scores of Indo-Guyanese were sent back home from Barbados for doing exactly the same thing?

Is the status of Indo-Guyanese any different from that of the Blacks who were born in that coastal state?

In the United States for instance, Guyanese and other Caribbean immigrants, both Blacks and East Indians, are regularly arrested late at night or early in the morning, picked up at work or at home and ultimately deported for being in the United States illegally. But Sir Shridath hasn’t accused Washington of ethnic cleansing.

They have also been deported from Britain where he lived for decades but he didn’t descend to such depths.

Why is he treating Barbados in such disrespectful tones? Why would he bring race into an issue where it doesn’t belong?

These are legitimate questions which Sir Shridath should answer now that he has improperly brought race hatred into a matter where it should remain out of bounds.

Unfortunately, a somewhat similar thing has happened in Trinidad and Tobago where Dr Tim Gopeesingh, a parliamentarian, recently charged that “ethnic cleansing” of East Indian doctors was taking place at the Port-of-Spain General Hospital after some of them had not been offered contracts to retain their services.

Both the Express and Newsday, two leading dailies in Trinidad, condemned Gopeesingh for his comments. Newsday called the remarks a “gross distortion of events and tarnishing, however unwittingly, of the internationally acknowledged good name of Trinidad and Tobago”.

The Daily Express complained that he “was more interested in the political effect than semantic accuracy” in his use of the term.

Clearly Sir Shridath and Dr Gopeesingh can’t back up their unfounded allegations and should withdraw them.

I see VOB carried courtney blakman’s statement in the 6.30 a.m. news.

What was most interesting is when tony best asked :’is the staus of the indo guyanese different from the black guyanese?

So why has shridath not spoken out against the deportation of afro guyanese from Antigua and Trinidad etc.

Finally blacks in this society and elsewhere eyes are begining to open and notice what the mindset of the indians is – ” we support our own ethnic group, not our country nor our fellow countrymen if they are not indians”.

Trotman ? Wasn’t he part of top brass of PNC (which rigged every election since in power and killed people left righ and center including Rodney) so as try to maintain state power for the (Afro) Guyanese elite like Burnham and his hangers on ?
In the last election in Guyana a Barbadian pollster did a poll for his party showing him garnering (as it turned out, practically all votes away from the PNC) far less than the scam poll teh AFC commissioned from a US pollster who used some of the money to go out with prostitute .
For the Guyanese people of all races to take the AFC seriously, it has to come better than basing a call on sensationalist reports in the Guyana person about a person singing to save his skin in a US court and dropping names.
Since the police in Guyana weren’t doing their job at one time to deal with the criminals and terrorists who were slaughtering inncocent people (remember Luiganan and Bartica ?) , criminals like Fineman and a number of others had to die by the sword they lived by and those who don’t heed that message will suffer the same fate.
The Guyanese people and knowledgeable observers know wha’s going on includiling the reason for the burning down of the Ministry of Health to try and create problems and who behind it.. The present so called “revelations” out of US will amount to nothing. What’s sad is that the political opposition like the AFC who are trying to retain dwidnling membership is creating more divisions and racial strife by trying to make political capital out of all this. They are wasting their time but look at the cost. A lot of black people are shaking their heads and saying “Trotman really shaming we. The Guyana government trying its best for all of we, black and Indian, and look at he trying to create strife and division and keep back progress and development in Guyana.” .
Freddy Kissoon ? He is an idiot. People read the shock columnist for comedy. He is supposed to be a lecturer in Political Science but wouldn’t pass Poli Sci 101 .
His comparison of the socio-economic and political situation in the 1930s Germany with the progress and development in Guyana,with its functioning and internationally recognised good governing system including free and fair elections after 1992, is absurd.He feel people ignorant like he.
Kissoon, who betrayed his shortcomings by once saying said that Marxism didn’t come out of the European Enlightement, doesn’t know the difference between fascism and the liberal democracy in Guyana today.He should have lived in Pinochet’s Chile or what is happening in Honduras now and he wouldn’t be able to write one word n the nwspaper. What he should zero in on is the very real neo-fascist tendencies in some Guyana opposition quarters who would like to bring back the “good old days” with a PNC dictatorship for only one race. Won’t work, my friends. The Guyana government and the disciplined forces have a job to do and they are going to do it. No amount of a handful of people coming on here ranting to their lil circle of friends will change that..
Folks, on the occasion of Emancipation Day , let us recognise the progres and development for all the races in Guyana and tell those dividers and opportunists trying to use race for their narrow partisan agenda to take stock of themeelves and get back on the righteous path. God continue to bless Guyana and Barbados… ..

[“I think Sir Shridath should take a leaf out of the book of President Obama.” ]

I wish to endorse this although a simple understanding of the Massachusetts statute defining “disorderly conduct” would undoubtedly prove that Obama was absolutely correct to define the police actions as stupid. Yet the apology he gave was the right thing to do, and he should not have made the statement the way he did.

Who said or likened the new Immigration policy of the Barbados government to that of Ethnic cleansing? Shridath is quoted to have said that he saw it in the “Nationnews paper” and while this may be true I have not yet found that article. Where I have found it is on the Norman Girvan website, and several publications out of Guyana. But what did Shridath actually say? and more importantly who was he addressing it to?

[‘The knock on the door at night’ is not within our regional culture; still less are intimations of ‘ethnic cleansing’. ]

Is he addressing those who have accused Barbados of ethnic cleansing? When he read it in the Nationnews or wherever, did he agree or disagree?

It is clear to me that he believed what he read, and therefore his statement was not to the authors of the term but to Caribbean leaders, in particular the Leader of the country that stood accuse by the words he read in the Nationnews or wherever. He was clearly letting them know that he too interprets “The knock on the door at night” as marked by close acquaintance, association, or familiarity, with ethnic cleansing.

Not only is this an absolutely unfounded and incorrect intimation. There is no excuse for a man who would want to be seen as a facilitator, a uniter,…. a person in the sunset of his life to engage in rhetoric that is at it’s core divisive, and onesided.

What could have led him to this place given all his years working to bring people togehter? “Apanjaat perhaps????

Having Jagdeo assigned him to resolved the empasse between the WICB and WIPA will not do anything to help him regain the image he may have once had in Barbados. He can no longer be seen as a uniter of men.

Themis

• I ask again, where did Ramphal say that Barbados was indulging in “ethnic cleansing”?
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You are splitting hairs, Ramphal introduced the phrase in the context of a discussion on Barbados’ Immigration policy as it relates to Guyanese citizens. I’ve said before that Ramphal is a diplomat and diplomats chose their words wisely and he said those words. He didn’t say he was misquoted all he said was that he was guided by an editorial in the Nation.

If you are into parsing would it be any different if he had said “suggestions of ethnic cleansing”?

Most of us take no note of the seed that produces the Mustard tree.

As with most things in Barbados our pragmatic ways will not allow us to see a “small thing” until is is full blown and in our face.

The author of the following words need to read Richard Allsopps discription of “Apanjaat” and Peter Wickham’s two articles titled Accident by birth 1 and 2. I can emailed them to anyone who so desires. aohinds@verizon.net

[Sir Shridath might have to explain why he was seemingly silent on the deportation of Afro-Guyanese from Antigua, Trinidad and Tobago, the United States, Britain and Canada, because they broke those countries’ immigration laws but turned to incendiary language when scores of Indo-Guyanese were sent back home from Barbados for doing exactly the same thing?

Is the status of Indo-Guyanese any different from that of the Blacks who were born in that coastal state? ]

IT’S APANJAAT “ONES OWN KIND” BABY. Nothing more nothing less.

@Themis:
I ask again, where did Ramphal say that Barbados was indulging in “ethnic cleansing”?
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You should point your question to the person who said he did. We know what he said which is……..

[We are at such a time, and both policies and practices are deepening Caribbean divides. ‘The knock on the door at night’ is not within our regional culture; still less are intimations of ‘ethnic cleansing’. No Caribbean leader would countenance such departures from our norms and values; but all must not only believe, but also act as if they believe]

AND IT IS FOR THIS STATEMENT THAT Sir Courtney, Carl Moore, David, I and countless other Barbadians take issue with. Now that thou knoweth to what or ire rise, what sayeth thou?

We hope it does not but when hell breaks out in Guyana the silence currently being demonstrated by Girvan, Annalee Davis, Ramphal, Nation Newspaper, Compton Bourne, Commissiong et al will be exposed by BU.

All the while we acknowledge the emails we have been getting which
demonstrate dishonesty by ‘respected’ people in our region.

Present political readings on the groud in Guyana suggests that the country is ripe for a coup d’etat or some major social upheaval.It does not take an erudite or a scholar to undestand that when you survey the political and social topology of Guyana today, there is a huge imbalace and acessability to all resources and spoils -where one ethnic group dominate and comes out the winner at both ends at the expense of the other.And it is no secret that the majority of Afro-guyanese and the natives of Guyana are concentrated at the receving end of this imbalance.This type of politics is unsustainable because it breeds mistrust, jealousy and opportunism and if not checked the consequence can be dreadful.

This is why I am of the opinion that if a society that is make up of two dominant group(none having a significant overall population) whereby one group come to the table with a warp self- indentity and historical baggage which they cling to dearly and chooses limited social contact and assimilation then there is going to be a great deal of fissure and mistrust.In those societies(Guyana and others) you cannot have the said one group dominating all sphere of the life.You cannot have that one group controlling the economics, the professionals, and the politics because the other group will always cry victimization wether it is real or fiction.Now bear in mind that no one group of have people have a monopoly when it comes to greed, power, money and selfishness, however, the tendency is more prone to people whose daily rountine and family tradition is steeped into clannish and tribalistic behaviour.For them the tribe and the group take precedence over nation building.The Afro-guyanase and the Indo-guyanese need to be brutally honest (no political correction) to each other and let it me known that this is how we think of each other and stike a comprise on governance.It could be agreed openly that the Indo-guyanese take care of the economics while the afro-guyanese take care of the politics or they rotate the presidency between the major groups.Set up quotas or affimative action policy so that each group reflects their population strength.Shared governance is the way forward but donot hold your breath because the status quo for some people is to die for especially when their ethnicity is the beneficiary.The end result of which national development becomes the causalty in this political mess.

@Themis

IF we accept your argument in the prevailing climate which around the matter of immigration a senior diplomat like Ramphal must be held accountable for his poor choice of words which would have only served to incite. He would have known it too.

Themis, You don’t know Sir Ramphal or I gather the East Indians of Guyana, for if you did you would not even question what the dear folks here are saying, however, the one person here that seems to know the Guyanese born East Indians is Scout, so accept what he says. Sir Ramphal is an East Indian first and foremost and as with most East Indians and I might Chinese born in Guyana, come to the defense of their mattee even if they are in the wrong.

The fact of the matter here is that East Indians and I might add Chinese Guyanese do not like black, now this is my experience, but I am quite sure if your were to ask other black Guyanese they would tell you the same as I. I am mostly black, but mixed with other races in me, but my pure race family has never really accepted me, because all they see in me is Black, so the only family I know is my Balck family. This is the honest truth, and this translates into the broader society. I don’t care what the fool emancipation messager says, that is the reality of Guyana, and this is the very reason Burnham could never get Guyana to work. The other races, but especially the East Indians, were going against Burnham at every step of the way, in spite of them becoming wealthy through the various programs implemented by Burnham. So to come here and state that Burnham’s rule was only for one race is a out right lie.

Let me tell you that during the 1963 disturbances that the East Indians in
the rural areas wanted to live apart form others. My Aunt was a teacher in this area of Guyana and one of her former East Indian students came to her gate screaming out, Teacher time to go, she replied, time to go where, he said, you are going further down to an area with your own kind. She said, no I am staying here, our family has been here for 200 hundred years, and he left. The East Indians wanted to have their own areas apart from others. Now this is their culture, look you see how they divided up India into Pakistan and Bangladesh. Living apart never came to reality as Mr. Burnham the then leader that came to power decided to mainstream the East Indians. he made their Hindu and Moslem holy days natioal holidays, he placed them in the Teachers Training College, mark you. prior to Mr. Burnham, Guyana did not have one East Indian teacher, there were no East Indian nurses in hospitals and so on. So for peope to come here and say that Burnham only wanted to help his own kind is a lie. Burnham in some insatnces could not give jobs to East Indians as they were not trained to do the job, and on some instances if they were trained and given a job in GOG they would sabotage the state for the good of the PPP. The Guyanese state comes first, and not the PPP or the PNC.

The East Indians are 42% of the population, and Black Guyanese are 46%, the PPP claims they are inclusive, well I beg to differ. The PPP acts like a organisation that promotes the East Indian people, when they should be working for all Guyanese. The PPP needs to let people vote for whom they want. I was told by a young East Indian once that they are beaten and harrassed if they do not vote for the PPP, now this should not be. Let the system work it self out, but no the PPP will go at every length to win an election.

I think at present, the GOG should resign, President Jagdeo needs to step down and those of you who are familiar with Guyana know why. I am not saying this because President Jagdeo is an East Indian, far from it. I have no confidence in President Jagdeo, no confidence what so ever, and so he needs to demit office. It is the right thing to do. We need to call a general election right this moment, or let the chief justice appoint a caretaker until the national elections in 2011.

Anonymous you could not have painted a more realistic picture. Imagine my eldest child was borne by a woman of East Indian descent and when she was five years old, her grandfather threw her through a window while saying he did not want any blackman child in his house… such is the nature of the beast within most of them.

Well said Themis.

Themis, you in for a rude awakening if you ever show up in Guyana, hope you never have to.

Themis
There has always and will always be the exception to any rule. Even in the days of apartheid in south africa, there were whites and blacks who used to treat each other like “brothers” but that did not mean that apartheid wasn’t rampant. It is an established fact that Afro and indo guyanese are at war with each other, if boy and girl, man and woman from different groups get involved, they are both considered “tainted” and becomes outcast by their people. Any child from that relationship, is called “dougla” or “buck” which is even worse that calling a black man “niger.”

COMPTON BOURNE
The new UG chancellor.
Is this the real reason that he started bashing Barbados?

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/news/local/08/01/compton-bourne-new-ug-chancellor/

I want to tell “Emancipation Day Message” (someone please convince me it is not Norman Faria) that his message is truly offensive to the intelligence of all observers of politics in Guyana, in particular his claim that “A lot of black people are shaking their heads and saying “Trotman really shaming we. The Guyana government trying its best for all of we, black and Indian, and look at he trying to create strife and division and keep back progress and development in Guyana.”

The writer is delusional at best, but more likely calculatedly malicious, and I trust his specious and odoriferous attempt at misrepresenting reality and manipulating opinion will be consigned by readers to the trash can where it belongs.

So who is going to be the fall guy for Jagdeo when Roger Khan talks? Could it be Commisioner of Police Greene?

On March 10th 2009 :
Commissioner of Police Henry Greene is maintaining that local authorities have the equipment in their custody.

President Bharrat Jagdeo made this disclosure yesterday, saying that Greene confirmed it when he asked him about it.

“He [Greene] said we have it in our possession,” Jagdeo told a news conference at the Office of the President.

“I asked him and he said that we have the equipment here.”

Meanwhile, Cabinet Secretary Dr Roger Luncheon later admitted that his government did business with Khan, but denied that he ever signed any document authorising the businessman to import the equipment or colluded with him.

While Luncheon maintained that he had no idea where the equipment was, Home Affairs Minister Clement Rohee declined any comment on the matter.

Asked about the apparent uncertainty within the administration about the whereabouts of the equipment, Jagdeo yesterday said, “People don’t want to speak, but I will speak and he [Greene] said it is here.”

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/news/local/03/10/police-say-still-have-%e2%80%98spy%e2%80%99-machine-jagdeo/

An afric scape goat is being prepared??

March 13th 2009

Head of the Presidential Secretariat Dr Roger Luncheon yesterday said he is sure that the police have some evidence to prove that the surveillance equipment they have in their possession is that which was seized from drug accused Roger Khan.

However, he added, the notion that it could have been switched with another can’t be dispensed with “because apparently there is a piece of equipment that has surfaced as the seized equipment.”

He also contended that when he said last year he did not know where the equipment was, what he really meant was that he did not know at what police location it was being kept.

The US government has said it seized the surveillance equipment owned by Khan, an alleged drug kingpin, after it was shipped to his lawyer’s New York office….

…. but President Bharrat Jagdeo on Monday said that Commissioner of Police Henry Greene is maintaining that local authorities have the equipment in their custody.

“He [Greene] said we have it in our possession,” Jagdeo told a news conference, adding: “I asked him and he said that we have the equipment here.”

“The commissioner of police who heads the entity which is responsible for safeguarding evidence in criminal matters has confirmed that the police has the seized equipment from the Roger Khan Good Hope saga in their possession,” Dr Luncheon maintained

Dr Luncheon who last year admitted that his government did business with Khan had denied that he ever signed any document authorising the businessman to import the equipment or colluded with him.

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/news/local/03/13/cops-likely-have-evidence-proving-%e2%80%98spy%e2%80%99-equipment-is-real-mccoy-luncheon/