A Date With Death

Submitted by Kammie Holder
Kammie Holder

Kammie Holder

Unfortunately many don`t know the various numbers of their health status. Many continue to eat themselves to death. Restaurants and food vendors have simply no understanding Sodium Chloride is corrosive and not needed in food. Celery is high in Sodium and is a healthier replacement for its corrosive family Pot Salt which comes in many branded flavours.

Electrolytes the body needs are Magnesium,Potassium,Calcium and Sodium and not Sodium Chloride. in addition the medical profession has also decided to even charge a higher fee for first visits and cannot ever be accused of extravagance in their charging.

Just over 3500 persons die yearly in Barbados and as an aging obese, stressed population we can expect more sudden deaths reporting due to social media and more mainstream media reporting. Latest statistics released by CDRC speaks to a population where 35 persons with a NCD to every 1 person with HIV.

As a country we are great at talking with the worship of money taking precedent over wellbeing of country and our fellow man. Restaurants and cook shops have all been irresponsible in the preparation of their gastronomic slow march to death foods. Each individual must take responsibility for what they consume under the pretext of good food. I am all for health care cost being  passed on to those who contribute to their own ill health, some may call it discrimination but smokers and alcoholics pay more to have access to life insurance.It should not take a Fast Food Tax imposition by Government to bring restaurants and cook shop to a Christian understanding by hitting them in their pockets.

The question begs, are you a walking dead who is just a heart beat away from a heart attack or stroke?

#ANewWay

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  • Don’t expect this DLP government to introduce a tax on restaurants and cook shops.Take a good look at the many ministers who have put on tremendous avoirdupois since they have access to free hotel cooked food which they have never experienced before and therefore eat like the proverbial hogs they have become.Chefette,about to open its 16th fast food outlet in this 2×4 place of 170 sqm is DLP to the core….everything in there is “yeahlowe and blue”.

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  • Violet C Beckles

    We must eat like Bajan or die sooner eating like Americans,,,, cost you less will make you cost you to live less , Eat Local and leave the Pig alone,

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    And with that jackass Kellman braying about how another Chefette will help poor people in Barbados…..yeah sure, help them to early graves. The dummies in parliament are clueless.

    I am sure Walter will tell me the ministers are encouraging unhealthy fast foods. ..in the best interest of the island……ya can’t make none of this up.

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  • Don’t play you smart Kammie …. what about the water…? 🙂

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  • Yes, a serious charge about water quality in Barbados.

    On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • millertheannunaki

    @ Kammie Holder:
    “It should not take a Fast Food Tax imposition by Government to bring restaurants and cook shop to a Christian understanding by hitting them in their pockets.”

    What is this load of ‘processed’ crap are you eviscerating from your intellectually elongated intestines?
    Who will be hit hard in their pockets? The fast food outlet owners or the obese consumers clearly hooked like paros to crack?

    Since businesses don’t pay taxes -but only act as collecting agencies for the Government- then these additional impositions will be reflected in the prices charged to customers and hopefully act as fees paid in advance to defer the future cost for their public health care; just like smokers and drinkers as you quite rightly pointed out.

    It is in the fiscal interest of the government to encourage people to ‘pig-out’ in restaurants and fast food joints where VAT is levied. More fast food eating means more VAT collectible to bring down the deficit while increasing the BMI of young Bajans and providing work for the many quacks calling themselves physicians.

    What you are proposing is nothing new. An annual licence fee (fat tax) -similar to what was imposed on slot machines aka one-arm bandits- equivalent to Bds $400,000.00 per outlet for any fast food chain with an annual total turnover over of $2,000,000.00.

    Pop goes the ‘behind-the-scenes’ campaigning donations to many a politician!

    Kammie, would you agree such a prepayment (Fast Food Licence Fee) would go a long way in financing the cost of public health care including annual subventions from Central Government to the QEH?
    Then we could forget about the Health Lottery which is another brilliantly copied idea but too helicopter in appearance to be grasped by ‘pedestrian’ thinkers that currently make up the cabinet of obese fools parading in monkey-made garments.

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  • re Sodium Chloride is corrosive and not needed in food. REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
    WE NEED BOTH Na+ and Cl – for our muscles and nerves to function properly.

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  • I believe that the British and other military organisations are still issuing salt tablets to personnel operating in desert conditions and in other tropical climates such as ours.

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  • I believe that I have previously posted a ppt on BU on Na+ and Cl –

    @Colonel Buggy
    the British and other military organisations are still issuing salt tablets to personnel operating in desert conditions and in other tropical climates such as ours, for exactly the reason I noted above.

    When you have spent some time working out in the hot sun and there is a lot of white stuff in your dried perspiration in our shirt IT IS SALT that you are seeing. If you want to keep working just put a little in your lemonade, and see how much better you will feel.

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  • One of the first questions asked to a soldier who collapses in temperate conditions, UK etc is ” Have you eaten your breakfast this morning?”, while in hot and humid theaters of operation,its, ”Have you taken your salt rations today?”

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  • Below is email sent to Barbadostoday to clarify my interview which was actually about the Solar Farm. I have since contacted Dr MWansa of the BWA to clarify my statement who reassured me our water is extensively tested for many water soluble contaminants.

    Please note at no rime did I say that the water is responsible for NCD’s or the spate of sudden deaths. No scientific or anecdotal evidence suggeat such. What was said is that the number of contaminants tested for should be increased. I further stated that Nitrogen Dioxide Sulphur Dioxide and Hydrocarbons as well as other water soluble pollutants found in vehicle exhaust should be tested for. The reporter was also told that diesel exhaust has been linked to diabetes as an NCD. Thus its ludicrous to insinuate that water is giving persons NCD”s and there is a link to the sudden deaths which I dismissed as rubbish when the gossip mill first started with this malicious rumor. Thank you for your indulgence and retraction.

    Kammie Holder

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Water should be boiled before drinking, where ever you reside, I would never drink the water in NY or Canada without first boiling. The water in Barbados is heavy, it should be boiled.

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  • Thanks for the clarification Kammie.
    Somebody needs to do some shiite about these joke reporters parading as journalists ’bout here though….. What the hell is the qualification for these jobs…? ‘knowing’ Peter Harris?

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Pimping for the likes of Peter Harris et al….all the crooks and criminals posing as business people and who seek to destroy the black majority, is the only qualification needed to be a journalist or get close to the politicians and government ministers….

    just look at this Pandor crap, indian dude selling vendor’s permits and whatever else the government can use to subject the majority blacks on the island to disenfranchisement. .there is a pattern.

    Ya better of sending ya articles to social media, ya might get a twist put on it via editing, but nothing to destroy the people, only the shitheads in parliament and the many criminals masquerading as lawyers.

    The newspapers in Barbados are a joke, not ready for the real world yet….too many pimps employed as journalists.

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  • Thank you, GP! Some people have been trying to convince me that my reduced salt intake is not enough. They say they don’t cook with salt at all. I’ve been trying to get them off my back but you know how it is with people who know not. As with everything else it’s all about balance. When are we going to understand that life is a balancing act?

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  • One of the problems faced today Donna, is that all the canned and packaged foods have large Na concentrations-especially ham. Salt is even added to “sweet” things to enhance flavor.
    Perhaps, since our work no longer involves slaving in the hot sun, we might exclude putting the piece of salt meat in the pot. LOL

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  • Hell No notb going to take my salt meat out of my pot. The flavour makes the rice tasty and inviting try eating boiled rice without a flavouring of salt meat .The old folks who were raised on that diet is still around while the younger generation dying from induced foods laced with steroids that is where all the problems orginates. Ask any centenarian alive today in barbados if salt and sugar was included in their diet most would say salt and sugar was a big part of their diet

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  • @ Georgie Porgie I don`t agree you have to add NaCl to your pot in its raw form for the earth is the bearer of NaCl and a balanced diet of ground foods and fruits can provide what the body needs. Unfortunately, meat preservation over the years from Anglo Saxon times created that illusion. Thus the cooking styles have encouraged the additional salt.

    Sodium chloride—also known as salt—is necessary to help your body maintain fluid balance, help your muscles relax and your nerves transmit signals. Sodium chloride also helps maintain normal blood pressure.

    Natural Food Sources. Chloride is found in table salt or sea salt as sodium chloride. It is also found in many vegetables. Foods with higher amounts of chloride include seaweed, rye, tomatoes, lettuce, celery, and olive.

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  • Bajans love to put salt in everything. Keep away from the can foods.

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  • Is it any wonder why Barbados is in such a dreadful state? I have just read the contributions from GP, Donna, Gabriel, AC, et al. All are in a state of denial concerning Barbados addiction to salt and the negative impact that it is having on the health of her citizens. Have you people not heard of fresh herbs as an excellent substitute for adding flavour to food?

    Try reducing your intake of salts. I use the minimum of salt in my food. I will sprinkle some on my fish and chips and some in my meat. That’s more than sufficient.

    Let’s be radical and remove at least 50% of salt from our food chain. As an educated people we should know better. Personally, I believe that our government is being encouraged by questionable outside forces who are committed to wiping out a certain section of our population through the intake of inferior food laced with salt. Open your minds folks.

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  • Staying at holetown for couple of weeks and walked around the area everyday, up the cemetery road through the golf course and around. Usually 5k hung over or not but it gives you a lot of time to think, and one of the thoughts is living at the bottom of that hill I am more worried about formaldehyde and crap leaching through the coral than salt. I have never drank so much bottled water

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  • Exclaimer,

    You read NO SUCH THING from me. I seldom eat fast foods. There are few cans in my cupboard. I always check the salt content of my foods. And from young I grew accustomed to my grandmother’s low salt cooking as a result of her high blood pressure. I do not put salt meat in my rice. I am about to cook breadfruit cou cou without salt meat as chicken stock will do. I use celery, garlic, onion, parsley and various bell peppers to flavour my rice along with a little salt. At over fifty my GP says I have amazing blood pressure.

    Also, though diabetes is rampant in my family I show no sign of it. That is also because I grew accustomed to the reduced sugar beverages my grandmother made to accommodate my grandfather’s diabetes.

    I monitor my fat intake. I keep temptation from before me by not bringing home unhealthy foods in bulk. I eat more fruits and vegetable than meat and carbohydrates. My son eats better than most teenagers I know.

    And finally, I prefer walking to driving and have many times been asked if my car is in the shop by people who see me walking too far.

    Don’t call my name in foolishness, skippa!

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  • dONNA, YOU HAVE SAID A LOT
    I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP ARGUING WITH SEMI-ILLITERATES ON BU
    MAKES NO SENSE
    I AM SURE THAT I CAN FIND A LOT OF RELEVANT INFO IN MY DATA BASE ON SALTS AND THE ROLE OF SODIUM AND CHLORIDE IONS.
    BUT I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP TRYING TO TEACH THE UNDEUCABLE ON BU

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  • @ Georgie Porgie ,

    YOU HAVE POSTED ENOUGH INFORMATION IN THE BU MEDICAL CORNER.

    IT IS STILL THERE FOR THOSE WHO CHOSE TO READ IT.

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  • I said i use salt meat i also said that the older generation has lived longer that the younger generation and has used salt and sugar as a mainstay in their diet. I however believe that the added chemicals in processed foods are as much a contributor to high blood sugar and highblood a as the chemical can negatively the normal functioning of the body chemistry
    I know if people who do nit eat salt and are in high blood pressure pills and everso often theur blood pressure escalates. I know there can be other underlying medical problems or family history which can be contributing factors which goes to show that salt alone is not only a reason

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  • Georgie Porgie Pudding and pie

    Kissed the girls and made them cry

    When the boys came out to play

    Georgie Porgie ran away

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    As a Christian man and some kind of allopathic practitioner you need to be more patient with your BU patients

    We ourselves, only see a place for emergency medicine as practiced by you

    We are unlikely to ever have any other need for popular or western medicine

    You should try to understand that yours is only one school

    and a recent one at that

    Every doctor we’ve gone to in the last 20 years was highly qualified in western medicine

    but also as qualified in several other modalities.

    So try!

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  • Kammie Holder • 5 days ago
    Unfortunately many don`t know the various numbers of their health status. Many continue to eat themselves to death. Restaurants and food vendors have simply no understanding Sodium Chloride is corrosive and not needed in food. Celery is high in Sodium and is a healthier replacement for its corrosive family Pot Salt which comes in many branded flavors…..

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/84084/deaths-kadooment-day

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    ACs….the older generation live longer because they did not have fast foods high in saturated fats to kill them from when they were young….you are what you eat and they ate and still do, lots of provisions, they did and still do…ALL their own cooking.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    I know someone who has nerve damage caused by an accident, in constant pain which causes the blood pressure to fluctuate, pain causes blood pressure to rise as GP will tell us, the person keeps the salt intake to a minimum, seasalt only in fish or meats, everything else is saltless, the person manages to control the blood pressure with that practice and drinking mango, avacado and soursoup leaves daily.

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  • Some people use a little bit of salt meat but no additional salt in their rice. It’s about balance. Two far east will always be west. One can even die from drinking too much water, I understand. Even CLEAN water. So… salt is not the enemy. TOO MUCH salt is the enemy. Sugar is not the enemy. TOO MUCH SUGAR is the enemy. Fat is not the enemy. TOO MUCH fat is the enemy. Alcohol is not the enemy. TOO MUCH ALCOHOL is the enemy. Etc. etc. etc.

    Remember though that unless we are as active as the older folks were our salt and sugar intake needs to be lower.

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  • Why do people always think in extremes? Sigh…..

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  • Yes, Well Well. The first time my blood pressure rose slightly for an extended period was after a bad accident resulting in extreme pain. It returned to normal as the pain subsided after a couple of weeks. The second time was when my best friend and her family couldn’t make our traditional Xmas dinner So we ate all the ham ourselves. My blood pressure gradually returned to normal over the course of a few months. It’s been normal (even better than that for a person of my age) ever since.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Donna…everything taken in moderation combined with lots of walking or swimming or any activity, keeps strokes, heart attacks and many other NCDs away.

    A friend of one of my daughter’s, not even 39 yet passed away from bloodclots a day ago, no exercise, bad eating habits, fast food etc. I told her watch her weight when she was 17, big boned girl, easy to pack on pounds, particularly in a cold country…was easily 600 plus pounds when she passed.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    And ya, the body needs a whole lot of water to function adequately, but ya can drown drinking too much…everything in moderation.

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  • Outside of fast foods barbadians would be receptive to salt food like fish and meat which are mainstay and mostly preferred are less palatable without salt it would take lots of education starting at a very young age to change that reliability/habit
    However as i have stated salt is not the only source and a contributor to high blood pressure but the chemical processing found in foods which makes the body hard to recognize and digest should be included
    just like the pharmaceuticals who are always selling drugs to treat diseases and their symptoms and which have deadly side effects same is true with any other kind of chemical which when ingested in the body becomes hard to digest and breaks down as a toxin in the
    blood stream
    Today many consumers are opting to shop in whole foods market rather than in the ole traditional fast serviced grocery stores whose products are chemically produce
    The process of providing education to a populace is what has given rise to whole food markets and also which would eventually reverse the dangers of unhealthy eating in the foreseeable future not placing taxes on product which people would not continue to eat

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  • DR GP is very super sensitive to what he believes or perceived are bloggers nonsensical response to his goodly advice for one there is no harm in the back and forth of debate many here would respect his opinion as many are not in the medical field while others might be using examples which would have given them a reason to question his medical expertise
    Also in his responses many might find it hard to understand his analytical medical response by way of scientific speech and might become frustrated hoping that he will reply on a level which all can easily understand
    he must also understand that his huffing and puffing does not add any thing worthwhile but becomes a turn off by which many bloggers would find it necessary to attack him

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  • @ac

    A reasonable comment.

    On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  • GP,

    I’m so sorry but I had to give the ac at 8:44 a thumbs up. Give it a read!

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  • Correction on this
    The process of providing education to a populace is what has given rise to whole food markets and also which would eventually reverse the dangers of unhealthy eating in the foreseeable future not placing taxes on product which people would not continue to eat

    The process of providing education to a populace is what has given rise to whole food markets and also which would eventually reverse the dangers of unhealthy eating in the foreseeable future not placing taxes on product which people would continue to eat

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  • “1/4 of the food we eat keep us alive, the other 3/4 keep DOCTORS alive.”

    If you were to educate the populace to eat right, stop poisoning their offsprings with toxic vaccines, keep their homes and bodies clean (basic hygiene) doctors would go out of business.

    Today ‘food’ has been weaponized. Eugenics is the name of the Game.

    “It should not take a Fast Food Tax imposition by Government to bring restaurants and cook shop to a Christian understanding by hitting them in their pockets.”

    A christian understanding! Sounds like something in a bottle…..Isn’t Barbados a christian society governed by christian principles which allow them to steal, lie, kill, cheat and dishonour? A Fast Food Tax would NOT hit restaurants and cook shop in their pockets. It would hit every consumer of that ‘food’ in their pockets.

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  • It is possible to get high levels of the Sodium ion and the chloride ion in our drinking water if the wells in the sheet water area are over pumped and salt water intrusion results.

    I know for a fact that many of the West Coast wells were shut down because of salt water intrusion during the drought earlier this year.

    It happens as far as I understand in other years.

    There is obviously a time prior to the decision to shut down pumping when levels will rise and a red flag is raised.

    In that time people can consume water that has become more saline than normal.

    Obviously, when the wells are shut down to recover people are out of water and scream but the wells are shut down for a good reason.

    I talked with a hiker one Sunday morning from Malta years ago and he told me that over pumping of the wells there forced the Government to have to go to desalination because the wells were destroyed.

    If you were to test water from wells in the sheet water area in Barbados for the sodium and chloride ions now, you might find that they are normal … but in times of drought, they may not be.

    Wells in the stream water area are unaffected by salt water intrusion ….. Bowmanston, Applewaithes, Sweet Vale are the ones that spring to mind. However, if they are over pumped, they will go dry as I understand happened to Sweet Vale this year.

    However, these will get the agricultural/household chemicals that are used on the land … so water quality can still be of some concern.

    Ditto for the wells lower down in the sheet water area.

    The reason I am writing this is because I saw an article quoting the Future Centre Trust director which if I read it right is saying that water quality MAY be linked to the sudden deaths that we are seeing at the moment and that our drinking water should be tested for more chemicals.

    I tend to think he may have a point which is in need of research, but we all need to be aware of the real issues which face our drinking water supply.

    It would be interesting for example to know how many of the people who suddenly died lived and/or worked in areas supplied with water from wells in the stream water area which are not affected by salt water intrusion.

    If all or most of the people who suddenly died lived and worked in the lower elevation areas then I would say the authorities definitely need to sit up and take notice.

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  • It may not matter how carefully people eat to avoid ingesting high levels of salt …. but I am no expert!!

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  • Once I went to the doctor …. overweight as usual … and confessed I was eating too much icecream which I knew was bad for me.

    He asked me how could something that tastes so good be bad for you!!!

    So, I continue to enjoy my icecream … but in moderation!!!

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  • re John August 7, 2016 at 3:30 PM #
    It may not matter how carefully people eat to avoid ingesting high levels of salt …. but I am no expert!!
    NEITHER ARE MANY WHO OPINED ABOVE BUT UNLIKE YOU THAT DID NOT STOP THEM FROM TALKING SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSITE!

    RE If all or most of the people who suddenly died lived and worked in the lower elevation areas then I would say the authorities definitely need to sit up and take notice.

    ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THESE FOLK HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR KIDNEYS OR BUFFER SYSTEMS OR THAT THEIER ADRENAL GLANDS CAN NOT SECRETE THE NECESSARY AMOUNTS OF ALDOSTERONE TO COMPENSATE.

    ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR HOMEOSTASIS?

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  • @ John,

    Your argument concerning the quality of our potable water source and how it may be contaminated sounds plausible. Like you I’m no expert. It sounds to me like a case of negligence where those who should be responsible for the management of our water supply system have reneged in their duty of care to the public. I would not put anything pass this government of sharks.

    @ Donna,
    I may have been guilty of lumping you in with some of those other characters. For that I apologise.

    @ GP,
    I have made the cardinal sin of encroaching on your beloved territory: health. Next time I do, I will qualify my statement with the words “I’m no expert?” Can we both agree on this?

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  • Exclaimer……..

    YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE……..I WILL CERTAINLY SAY WHAT I LIKE AND I WILL TRY TO BE ACCURATE AND FACTUAL

    YOU WILL NOTE THAT MY FIRST REMARKS WERE ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED SOME SALT, AND WHY WE NEED IT
    THIS IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    I REPEAT I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP ARGUING WITH SEMI-ILLITERATES ON BU
    MAKES NO SENSE
    I AM SURE THAT I CAN FIND A LOT OF RELEVANT INFO IN MY DATA BASE ON SALTS AND THE ROLE OF SODIUM AND CHLORIDE IONS.
    BUT I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP TRYING TO TEACH THE UNEDUCABLE ON BU
    THOSE WHO THINK I AM HUFFING AND PUFFING CAN CARRY ON

    ACTUALLY I AM WATCHING THE OLYMPICS WHILE PREPARING A LECTURE FOR AN APPRECIATIVE AUDIENCE NEXT WEEK

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  • @ GP,

    Surely you must know that you have an appreciative audience here at BU?

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  • GP

    I have not got a clue what causes the sudden deaths.

    I am not an expert.

    I am simply showing how you can get a dose of salts without even realizing it … straight from the sea!!

    If you consume water from wells in higher elevations you don’t have to worry about the process I have described!!

    Not an issue.

    If all or most of the sudden deaths occur in people who live and work in the higher elevations … and probably consume their water from those wells … then don’t worry about the process I have described.

    On the other hand, if the opposite is true, then at least investigate causes of sudden death that may be related to high levels of salts in drinking water which could occur as a result of over pumping in the lower elevations!!

    Does anyone even know?

    It seems everyone is agreed that these sudden deaths are not the norm … although I reckon all death is sudden … depends on how you define sudden!!

    It is also certain!!

    People even believe it is the new Ultrasonic Water Meters …. so obviously, people feel there is something out of the ordinary going on.

    The BWA has had to come out and deny a link!!

    We have had the most extraordinary drought we have experienced in years!!!

    The water supply system is supposed to be designed for low rainfall years of 40 inches. average.

    Last year I am told we had 32″, average.

    My understanding is the wells on the West Coast were shut down!!

    So… if these sudden deaths are really out of the ordinary, look for a possible cause that may include …. something out of the ordinary!!

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  • john
    in my response to your post I was asking if you considered that folk were dying because their kidneys and other buffer systems could not eliminate extra salt?

    i was asking for your opinion on the possibility of their homeostatic mechanisms being out of sync

    is there an increase in”sudden deaths” or an increase in such deaths in public?

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  • The Chief Medical Officer should investigate these “sudden deaths”.

    These people probably had health issues that contributed to their “sudden deaths”.

    Barbados has Medical professionals who can answer the public’s concerns.

    If they too lazy, they can send the data ( autopsy reports and medical histories ) to Dr. Georgie Porgie and he would tell them what to do next.

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  • Steupsss
    ALL deaths are sudden.
    One minute you are alive …the next one – yuh DED!!

    There are 7 billion brass bowls living on this Earth …and ALL uh we gotta dead….. SUDDEN.
    …and it ain’t just the water….
    it is the food, the drugs, the stress, the fear, karma…(and in AC’s case) – the h-ugliness…
    What kills us is something called entropy…. BUILT-IN degradation ….which was DESIGNED into the project called ‘life on Earth.’

    Sudden death shiite…
    What we need to worry about is Isaiah 3……
    BBE’s judgement of karma…. those dead ones may well be the LUCKY ones among us….

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  • HANTS………THANKS FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN YOUR POOR SERVANT

    BUSH TEA IT IS NOT ENTROPHY BUT APOPTOSIS

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  • Thanks GP.
    Bushie still likes to use ‘entropy’ as the higher order process of degradation of all matter.

    Apoptosis explains how cells are programmed to die, but even beyond this, ALL MATTER tends toward increased disorder with time – unless impacted by INTELLIGENT EXTERNAL forces.
    This reinforces the DESIGNED temporary nature of life AND indeed, of our Earth itself.

    Death is probably the most common and predictable aspect of life. Why do we tend to worry and fret about such an inevitability – while completely IGNORING the opportunities and OPTIONS presented by BBE to make the most of the short LIFE we currently enjoy on a very temporary basis….?

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  • GP,

    If you calm down a bit you will realize that your contributions on health matters are much appreciated and respected. Your interventions show that you cannot divorce yourself from the semi-literates because you know you are instructed otherwise. So stop the huffing and puffing because you know you have no intention of blowing down our house. As a matter of fact you were the guard dog that chased away the last big bad wolf!

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  • Bushie,

    I pay attention to both the short life here and the one I believe is to come. One cannot serve if one is chronically ill. Also one would wish to avoid premature death and suffering which comes from an unhealthy lifestyle. All of this I know you do because you have stated here that you have two doctors that you see on an alternate basis so that you will have a second opinion. You also recently boasted that your last checkup revealed that there is no reason you shouldn’t live to well over a hundred years.

    So though we cannot escape death and all deaths are indeed sudden we should not take our health lightly.

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  • We are on the same page Donna.
    ,,,well not quite the same.
    You are probably a few dozen pages behind Bushie chronologically.
    But rest assured that you cannot test the bushman when the lights go out…. 🙂
    LOL
    ha ha ha

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  • john
    in my response to your post I was asking if you considered that folk were dying because their kidneys and other buffer systems could not eliminate extra salt?

    i was asking for your opinion on the possibility of their homeostatic mechanisms being out of sync

    is there an increase in”sudden deaths” or an increase in such deaths in public?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I haven’t got a clue how the body reacts to excess salt … I could google it but I still won’t have a clue, and I don’t do the pretending bit very well, if I don’t understand I will usually keep quiet unless I feel like pulling someone’s chain.

    What I do have is a pretty good understanding of our water supply so I am putting forward a scenario which in my estimation could arise.

    The “sudden deaths” may only have become an issue because the papers are reporting them now as news whereas before they did not.

    I am pretty sure people died on the road before.

    Cell phones means news travels faster than before

    You can’t choose the time or place you die, …. when God calls your name you just go.

    Whether the phenomenon is real or imagined I don’t know but Bajans are very aware so much so that quite apart from the water meters being blamed I have even heard a Bajan blame “Trinidadians” …. in public, …. and in full voice, at of all places, a Massy Store.

    If I had time I would go and sit at the Nation Library and dig out every article I could find and see if I could find a pattern but that is something which will have to wait for the moment.

    But what I can tell you is that Bajans have taken the matter to heart.

    I am just putting forward possibly one part of the puzzle ….. doctors, forensic pathologists etc will have to do the rest because I sure can’t just as I am sure they can’t do my part on their own …. but I can get into the ball park by thinking logically and hopefully encouraging someone who can finish it to do so.

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  • Sorry to hear about the ‘sudden’ death of FTC Director of Consumer Protection.

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  • fair enough John
    thought you had studied some Physiology at some time

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  • “Judy Maynard, the commission’s director of consumer protection was found unresponsive in the bathroom of the FTC’s Green Hill, St Michael office this morning.”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/84307/ftcs-judy-maynard-dies#sthash.6eWG4aNe.dpuf

    Condolences to her friends and family.

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  • @ Dr. GP,

    Surely the Barbados CMO will investigate these “sudden deaths”.

    His office should have the data.

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  • hants
    when I use to act as PMO, SOME DAYS YOU WOULD HAVE 1, 2, 3 “SUDDEN DEATHS”. NOTHING NEW.

    ANY INCREASED INCIDENCE IS PROBABLY AGGRAVATED TODAY BY THE STRESS OCCASIONED BY THE FAILED GOVERNANCE OF THE DLP SINCE 2008

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  • Electromagnetic Pollution could be a factor in these sudden deaths. The Birds, bees and animals are dying out in mass, so maybe its human time.

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  • GP
    It would be fair then to say that Barbados under PM Stuart and his cabinet,has become a country where entrophy is the name of the game.

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  • Georgie Porgie August 8, 2016 at 7:07 PM #

    ANY INCREASED INCIDENCE IS PROBABLY AGGRAVATED TODAY BY THE STRESS OCCASIONED BY THE FAILED GOVERNANCE OF THE DLP SINCE 2008

    hA Ha Ha lordie i luv dat one ,, Gp not only are you a medical practitioner but a up and budding pollutician

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  • WARNING

    Any night on CBC TV news after hearing the presenter say the PM said, “xyz123” moved away, seeing his face is stress and when he start to utter words, you aggravated

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  • In my travels I came across a man whose last name was spelled “Death” but pronounced as “Deeth”, he told me his friends called him “Sudden”.

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  • No GP

    I frighten for blood!!!

    Physics, Chemistry, Math and Further Math at HC … no biology, zoology … nothing so

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  • Hopi August 8, 2016 at 7:51 PM #

    Electromagnetic Pollution could be a factor in these sudden deaths. The Birds, bees and animals are dying out in mass, so maybe its human time.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am seeing lizards for a while when there was a time that I saw none like when I was a boy.

    I am seeing swarms of black birds and there is a gigantic bee hive under the front room which has been there for years!!

    I reckon that with the reduction in the use of agro chemicals (agriculture dead) the poisons in the environment have reduced.

    So what I see and what you say are at variance.

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  • The “desal” plant is a processing plant which converts non potable water (brackish) into potable water.

    Things go wrong with equipment so there may be times when the quality of the output can be placed in jeopardy.

    Process control is extremely important.

    Who is supplied from the desal plant?

    Judy Maynard who died suddenly at the FTC offices in Green Hill raises questions in my mind.

    Let me see if there are other examples on line in the Nation.

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  • Here is an interesting paper on the relationship between sudden death and water quality

    http://www.mgwater.com/sudden.shtml

    There is a link between low levels of magnesium and sudden death.

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  • That is because Magnesium is needed as a cofactor to enzymes involved in generation of energy from food. A good example is in the phosphorylation of glucose to glucose 6 p in the first reaction of glycolysis

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  • jOHN
    tHIS IS WHAT I CALL DISCUSSION AND DEBATE. SOMETHING RELEVANT AND EDUCATIONAL INSTEAD OF THE DAILY DRIVEL

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  • There is nothing embarrassing or earth shattering about having a water supply that can cause illnesses … it is a fact which many countries deal with daily, even the US

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/toxic-chemicals-drinking-water-six-million-americans-171010033.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

    Sweeping it under the rug is the worst possible thing to do.

    Deal with it as one of many problems which needs to be solved … and solve it.

    Address it from as many different angles as is necessary.

    We accept as a God given right the availability of fresh potable water without even realizing the hoops people need to jump through to make it so.

    Even treated water can kill, just because of what is not there!!!!

    The example of the lack Magnesium makes one think of Bottled Water and the desal plant as sources of treated water Bajans routinely ingest on a daily basis which can create problems.

    The actual cause of death of an individual along with other data like where they lived and worked can help in reaching hypotheses as to the sources of the problems which then need to be tested.

    All sorts of disciplines and ways of thinking are needed to get to an understanding of the source of the problem.

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  • Georgie Porgie August 10, 2016 at 2:44 PM #

    That is because Magnesium is needed as a cofactor to enzymes involved in generation of energy from food. A good example is in the phosphorylation of glucose to glucose 6 p in the first reaction of glycolysis
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t have a clue what that means!!!!

    But it doesn’t mean that I cant offer data from the 1978 Stanley Report which states “In all of the ground water sources of Barbados, magnesium is present in very limited quantities (2 to 3.5 mg/l). No variation was observed with season or geographical location.”

    What are those levels in bottled water or in water coming from the desal plant which have been treated?

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  • GP,

    What are the other sources of magnesium?

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