Is politics nothing other than the art of deliberately lying?

⁃ Voltaire

There is a conversation being had across the globe. In the USA, UK, Barbados to name a few. It is about the integrity of the politician and the system that produces the politician. Oftentimes public commentators in this space and elsewhere offer facile analyses to what is a complex matter. It is no coincidence the political class is being pilloried by electors across countries and we continue to observe an unprecedented level of apathy and cynicism.

Our system – in theory – encourages any individual to offer themselves as a candidate for elective politics. When we criticize politicians we criticize ourselves. But is it that simple an observation to make?

The easy observation is that the process to select and elect political candidates who aspire to be members of parliament is inadequate. As the saying goes, “you only get out what you put in”. Why is the existing system to select political candidates inadequate to ensure the best opportunity to select a different type of politician?

Whether in the US, UK or Barbados it is obvious the ‘system’ is not engineered to encourage candidates from the blue collar segment of society to have a high chance of winning at the polls. The explanation maybe a simple one even if the solution is challenging to solve. There is a reason why individuals who are financially self sufficient like lawyers, doctors and self employed professionals run for political office. These self employed players have the flexibility to allocate time to canvassing, financial independence to grow favour with constituents and to avoid the strictures of being an employee. There is the knock on benefits of building social and professional networks and understanding the workings of the system to feather aspirations (the subject of another engagement) of professions.

The establishment in the case of Barbados solidifies the status quo by appointing individuals to the Senate from a similar class of background. Let us agree those selected must have a skillset to be competent to be a legislator BUT if the blue collar segment of the population is significant, room must be carved out in our system to ensure the best representation is reflected in the legislation.

As mentioned this is not simply a Barbados problem. Understanding the dysfunctional political system cannot be accurately distilled by the use of cliches like duopoly, tieffin politicians and other hyperbolic language used by some social commentators. It is a complex matter. We have to take heart from the fact change is constant and a process. It will occur as it always does – through honest to God advocacy by the PEOPLE.

214 responses to “A Never Ending Process to Change the Political Landscape”


  1. @Pacha

    Really? Tell the blogmaster more. Not following you at all.


  2. David
    The story is long. The struggled lasted for more than four years.
    But yes, where the company should be dominciled goes much further back than the recent decision of the firm using the state of the Barbados economy as pretext.
    Way back then the Trinidadians were arguing that it should be in Trinidad.


  3. @Pacha

    Do you refute Barbados junk sovereign rating would have held back the company’s acquisition plans especially if it wanted to borrow?


  4. @Pacha

    Do you refute Barbados junk sovereign rating would have held back the company’s acquisition plans especially if it wanted to borrow?

    Xxxxxxxxxx

    DO THIS MAKE AN IOTA OF COMMON SENSE?

    2 X 3 ISLAND US$1 / BD$2
    TRINIDAD US$1 / T$6 +
    JAMAICA US$1 / J$152


  5. “In the NA market which has limitless potential? The blogmaster is willing to hear from some of you with your ears to the financial markets.”

    what is an NA market?
    is it Namibia?
    or Not Applicable or Not Available Price/Earnings Ratio of $0?


  6. Sagicor is not a Barbadian company, and before recent ownership change it was majority Trinidadian.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Point being???

    The Barbados Mutual Life Assurance Society, 1840 is where this all started, so
    what’s the last 30 years got to do with the overall point being made about traitors and Judases?

    Those large ‘successful’ international RACIST-based operations such as Barclays and most of the old Banks and Insurance companies started similarly. HOWEVER, they reached out to exploit foreign resources to benefit their HOME base.

    OUR Brass Bowls however, used their resources to exploit their HOME BASE – then they sold out to the benefit of the same old RACISTS, albino-centric owners — and now bout here talking shiite about ’success’…..
    steupsss…
    You can pander to their treachery … BUT not stinking Bushie….


  7. @Bush Tea

    A publicly listed company is always open to threat to ownership.


  8. David

    You are bordering on the disingenuous.

    The sovereign debt issue presented the pretext for what they wanted.

    Had The Mutual and then Sagicor not have racism within its DNA it would have created the circumstances where Black entrepreneurs would have had the muscle which would have prevented Bajan business from seeking capital in T&T.

    When this happens the piper must be paid.

    Stopping this problem at source. A problem which continues to destroy the entire indigenous business sector was never Sagicor’s interest.

    David! Is this what you are supporting. Well, you’re no different to the political and other elites were during the Mutual Affair. We speak of your Henry Forde, for example.

    Cultural death is the wages of such mindlessness.


  9. Do you refute Barbados junk sovereign rating would have held back the company’s acquisition plans especially if it wanted to borrow?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You just don’t get it do you David?

    Barbados reached junk bond status (and will fall even further) PRECISELY because the PILLARS for economic, quality, social and developmental GROWTH failed the damn country.

    The Barbados Mutual Life Society was such a pillar.
    Bartel was also a pillar, as was BL&P, BS&T, BNB, and more recently, SOL and all the other damned traitors.

    These were the entities that had the wherewithal to employ large numbers of skilled citizens; to demand world class standards of performance, and to drive productivity in export goods and services.

    Instead, they ALL (led by SAGICOR) absconded their national responsibilities and left the country in the hands of political shiitehounds who did not even pass the damn 11+ … Arthur, Stinkliar, and now the supreme leader and her Gang of ‘Four Seasons cuntsultants’ and ‘East West’ investors..

    Don’t you see the correlation between selling National assets and falling credit ratings?
    steupsss
    Well sell your house, possessions and car …and wait a year or two, and see what happens to YOUR credit ratings…

    When these charlatans sold those national assets, our gooses were being cooked.
    …it is only our donkeys now left to be boiled.


  10. How is it a pretext? Would Barbados junk risk have affected the company’s ability to negotiate loads in the capital market or not. A simple yes or no will do.


  11. A publicly listed company is always open to threat to ownership.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This is exactly why we should NOT put our idiots in charge of them.
    Shiite!!
    At the very LEAST let us select people who passed the damn 11+

    …no wonder Petra Wicker wants it abolished… 🙂


  12. @Bush Tea

    This is the blogmaster you are exchanging comments, not some naïve person. Successive governments mismanaged the economy and positioned Barbados in the top 3 debt to gdp countries in the world. Building an economy tethered to a one sector service based economy that is the most fickle is what got us in the jam.


  13. David
    Again. Only theoretical. In practice many defensive measures could be taken to prevent threshold share ownership by hostile actors.
    .


  14. List 3 of these defensive measures Pacha?


  15. Bushie

    Has this Petra had a baby since marriage,?


  16. David

    In the context of Barbados, public companies have narrow ownership structures, vested interests have an ability to out vote minority interests, no is no mechanism for hostile take overs.

    In the USA, a small circle will hold enough shares to defeat minorities. Additional shares could be issued from treasury to defenders. Buy backs, is a mechanism which could make share purchases prohibitive, and on and on.

    David You must learn that nothing is as they tell you.


  17. I shall await for the Universe to tell me what this NA Market thing is
    1 day but not 2 day
    when the right time come
    it shall reveal

    Jah guide I going out
    and protect I coming in
    Black Black Reggae
    Black Reggae Music is a Message From the King
    His foundation is in the Holy Mountain
    The Lord loveth the gate of Zion more than the dwelling place of Jacob
    Somebody wrong but not Jah Bible I believe
    Black Reggae Music Blacker Black
    The Black Starliner must come

    Prince Far I & Culture – Message From The King / Black Reggae Music


  18. This is the blogmaster you are exchanging comments, not some naïve person.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    But David
    This is stinking Bushie…. not your regular brass bowl – quite an irregular one.

    Skippa, in mature countries, the society is NOT run by shiite politicians (who are mostly there because they are second rate jokers who are unable to make it otherwise.) BUT BY THE ELITES OF THE SOCIETY.
    Ask Obama about that…

    These ‘elites’ are ideally the POSITIVE, SUCCESSES, who are the movers and shakers of the country.
    people like…
    The President of a strong LOCAL SAGICOR
    The Managing Director of a REAL REAL Bartel
    The Manager of a locally owned BL&P
    The Chairman of a Barbados owned SOL

    THESE are the INTEREST groups that SHOULD have been pulling the shiite strings bout here…. deciding who becomes political leaders, setting quality standards, driving export industry….

    That vacuum has been filled by parasite ‘businessmen’ (traders) who make political contributions, and then look to rob the poor citizens via one-sided contracts etc.

    If you cannot see the REAL and PROPER role for successful businesses in influencing National growth, then you are hopeless…
    Second rate political parasites can NEVER spur long-term growth….
    NEVER!!!
    Damn people can’t even raise their own personal standards…far less a BB country…


  19. Bushie

    Please permit us to be diametrically opposed to the formal fascism which you have proposed.

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    We can witness them try to HOLD UP PURE LIES like atlas for the near future and laugh when it COLLAPSES UNDER ITS OWN WAIT….right on top of them..

    did i mention i got me a bad girl camera for the occasion..


  21. “Ask Obama about that…”
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Waxing shiite eloquently again.

    Many people have hailed Obama as being the first (or second) Black President of the United States.

    However, ‘the jury is out’ on what he was able to achieve that benefited Black people during his eight (8) tenure.
    Some people are of the belief he helped every group except the Black community.
    If we were to make a rational analysis of Obama’s role in America, you would realise the civil rights movement, equality, affirmative action etc, were systematically refocused to embrace the LGBT, feminist and multicultural movements.
    So, that when we’re discussing civil rights, for example, a particular reference is made to ‘bullers, wickers’ and transgender individuals.

    But, I do not ‘like’ becoming involved in these types of discussions, because opinions, rather than being rationally analysed and discussed, are more often than not, misinterpreted.


  22. I am saying directly to you: Being an outright apologist for the system does not mean that you understand the dysfunctional system you pretend to abhor.
    In the words of Owen Arthur:” reel and come again.”

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    A GEM OF A STATEMENT.

    ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH SOME ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND THAT MAY BE BENEFITTING SILENTLY FROM THE CHAOS AND CORRUPTION ONGOING.


  23. There is White America and Black America
    Obama faced a white backlash
    Changes Obama made were reversed by Trump
    Black Lives Matters protests led to investigations into police forces
    Affordable Care Act (ACA)
    Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
    Paris Climate Agreement
    Clean Power Plan (CPP)

    I Need Your Love So Bad

    I’ve Been Loving You Too Long (Live At Carnegie Hall / 1971)


  24. Wheel and come again

    Definition

    Try once more, come with a better story, or I remain unconvinced. This is generally used as an expression of disbelief.


  25. Like my Prime Minister, I support the 2SLGBTQ+ community.


  26. @Artax
    Perhaps you should save your outrage until ac comes back, so that you can fight at your own weight class…

    “Ask Obama about that “, (to the initiated,) speaks to his INABILITY to do the things as he would have liked, as opposed to having to CONFORM to the whims of the ELITES….so YOU are saying the same thing.

    You would be right to avoid getting involved in arguments before understanding the moot….

    @ Pacha
    It is one thing to condemn the idiocy of the various ’systems’ that abound. It is another thing altogether to come up with a WORKING alternative.
    But any alternative that does not put our brightest talents behind the steering wheel is fundamentally flawed.


  27. @Artax
    Perhaps you should save your outrage until ac comes back, so that you can fight at your own weight class…

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    WUHLOSS……………


  28. @Pacha

    You moved the discussion from how junk sovereign rating would have adversely affected a company like Sagicor wanting to play in the international space to narrow ownership?

    The reality is that Barbados junk status negatively impacted companies doing business in Barbados. One simple thing you can look at, minimum government paper was held, enough to cover statutory requirements in the case of an insurance company. This would have negatively affected investment income. In this scenario we are not even discussing borrowing.


  29. Bush Tea

    You ARE in my “weight class.”

  30. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    CBL gets curiouser and curiouser.
    Seems that a contractor/developer to secure vaccines is not that odd, the GoB(?) had previously hired a similar contractor/developer to market Four Seasonings (Ⓒ Hants) land and project.
    Since it ‘caught on’ in the media CBL has taken more twists and turns than Bushy Park. And some of the explanations are contrary. Will be interesting when the ‘dust settles’

  31. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    The elephant we fail to discuss is Fx.
    THIS is the driver behind much.
    The rest, some real, some imaginary, are merely extensions of the Fx puzzle.
    A bid of US$100M will beat one of BDD$210M, 19 times out of 20.


  32. @NO

    If you see Tempro it mean Bjerkham and possibly Maloney had to be in the frame?


  33. How printing money sunk us

    WHILE IT MAY BE said that one of the harshest economic periods faced by Barbados’ economy was when the political party took office in 2008, the response by those in charge was simplistic. It took the easy way out in trying to solve the challenges of the country.
    Since the Democratic Labour Party was swept from office in 2018 the new government has passed a law whereby it will be difficult to “print money” again. Printing money was the death knell of our economy leading to the depletion of our foreign exchange and to subsequent misery. Even now we have only remedied the situation by borrowing our foreign exchange at a cost. We might not be happy, but we are not out of the woods.
    No money
    One of the failures of trying to remedy the situation is that Government had no money to honour obligations to citizens and companies that had invested in bonds.
    Bonds issued by Government create income to facilitate the running of the country in order to iron out the ebbs and flows of income and expenditure – something like a company using a bank overdraft.
    While it is a question now of once bitten twice shy, the call to invest in BOSS (Barbados Optional Savings Scheme) bonds must be answered if we want Government to be able to run the country.
    We must now apply common sense and not be swayed by pique.
    Once bonds were ideal investments – even used by citizens as security to banks for loans. This has to be restored. It is also up to commercial banks to continue to show confidence in Government bonds by accepting them as collateral.
    Showed displeasure
    We showed our displeasure with the last administration but we have to give the new one the tools with which to operate and not shoot ourselves in the foot. Right now it is a stalemate. Other trials have emerged in the last two years that make us sit up and come to a decision. Not satisfied with the amount of contributions supplied by bonds from civil servants where access to salaries is available, Government is appealing to the general savers.
    The savings that we have in the credit unions go to the commercial banks and of course the commercial banks will not allow the competitive interest. So the banks control our savings. They will say that they too are obligated to buy bonds, but they structure their interest rates to suit that situation.
    The effort now to encourage our people to use their billions of savings to invest in bonds should be supported as against holding the Government to ransom for a situation in the past for which it was not responsible.
    But there is another side to this conundrum. Government could try to borrow in order to cover gaps in expenses. Do we want that? Government could increase taxes.
    Every one including the poor pays. Do we want that?
    Both of these measures are fraught with problems. In any case we cannot borrow as we like.
    Our hands are tied. The International Monetary Fund in whose claws we reside and on whom we depend, oversees us.
    Very difficult
    What makes our decision very difficult are the many other areas of inefficiency levelled at Government. Not all of the mess of both Governments has been attended to, and this Government has created some of its own. Right now the things unearthed by the Auditor General reverberates in respect of the Four Seasons project and Government has been in power since 2018.
    There are still issues and confusion with our union and lacklustre representation at the highest level.
    The problems with the National Insurance Scheme seem unsolvable unless we are prepared to “work until we drop” – we change our culture or we interbreed.
    For a long time Barbadians have been credited with commonsense.
    This reputation for pragmatism, the same pragmatism that has helped us to survive so far should be applied to this situation so that Government can be confident in reeling out helpful programmes to keep the economy going and to retain the attractiveness of Barbados to tourists as a place of choice. We must remember that investors looking on will also be assessing the response of Barbadians to their own crisis in making a decision to get involved here.
    One of the decisions going in the wrong way is to ask the Central Bank Governor to tell the commercial banks how to set their charges.
    Unless he can unearth a cabal, the answer still is to have our own bank. He has other problems far more pressing.

    Harry Russell is a banker. Email quijote70@gmail.com


  34. Is NA North American?
    Barbados Past Legacies Vs Republic of Barbados Present and Future Direction.
    One could describe Barbados as a unique special or strange Black experience.
    It’s past legacies or inheritances which were purely set up for European’s benefits were Slavery Plantations and a Low Tax Offshore Banking Regime which are both now redundant.
    The next stage will be to plot a new direction action plan for future generations.

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    Pacha…this is what they like to see…their own people BLOCKED from progress generationally by GENERATIONAL CROOKS and oppressors…….nothing makes them feel better…

    “Corporate entities ‘blocked spouge’
    One of the reasons why Barbados’ spouge beat failed to blossom successfully was that the music industry was controlled by a group of corporate entities when it was trying to establish its presence on the market.”

    they can’t see they have now reached a roadblock, they set up themselves, and can go NO FURTHER.

    Bushman…ya got reduced to nothing….i would take offense…

    “It is another thing altogether to come up with a WORKING alternative.”

    the quicksand is real…..and they are sinking….bankrupt of ideas……useless consultants……useless politicians…what a time to watch them crash..


  36. David

    We will rejoin by contending that for 200 years Mutual/Sagicor has acted in ways which were directly causal for the heart attack or sovereign debt crisis in recent years.

    In capitalism the responsibility for development lies with the elites within the system. You can’t give one set of people all the resources and attribute blame for failure to another group of elites.

    These issues should not be mutually exclusive, no pun intended.

    Bushie
    We could never subscribe to your pyramid of intelligence or superior abilities, long held by you. This predisposition is not unlike that which argues for the superiority of White people.

    All the people and companies suggested have no particular unique abilities. All of them have been, several times, aided by the very governments and peoples you will have them now lord over.

    Where there is some special abilities or unique characteristics let them be in terms of patents, trademarks, industrial processes, copywrites. And even in these cases we’d prefer for these to be part of the commons.

    You have merely suggested a bunch of merchants who are only able to bribe politicians and import, mark up and sell, while cornering the local market.

    And yours are only a single facit of intelligence. What about intuition, the moral standard. Has any of your would-be direct corporate dictators showed any intuition able to avoid the cultural death they have ked us to?

    Bushie, your grand vision ideas require reconsideration.

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    imagine that, in the 1960s and 70s…small-time shite corporate entities, nobodies feeding off Afrikan lives blocking Afrikans from moving forward with the Spouge Beat and both no good negro governments colluding to MAKE IT HAPPEN…

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    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “Where there is some special abilities or unique characteristics let them be in terms of patents, trademarks, industrial processes, copywrites. ”

    minorities in Barbados ARE NOTHING….

    they are upheld and supported by SLAVES and CORRUPT POLITICIANS/governments….that’s their only claim to fame along with ILLEGAL access to the majority population’s taxes and pension fund..


  39. @Pacha

    Have no issue with the issues to which you refer led by the then civic minded Hillary Beckles. That is separate from the issue of advantages of operating in a different domicile for the company.


  40. Beyond Borders
    What It Takes To Know
    Local Talk
    Ten Against One
    (It wasn’t Rasta)
    Local Talk vs Global Talk
    “minorities in Barbados ARE NOTHING….”
    “Barbados is a NO THING NOTHING”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8VAUyQmQk


  41. @ Artax
    ‘Bush Tea. …You ARE in my “weight class.”..’
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    True …except for the beer belly
    LOL


  42. Organic Solution to prejudice against minorities and immigrants is even more minorities and immigrants and those who don’t like that should leave.


  43. David

    Barbados as a domicile deserved the protection of its leading corporates.

    Focus on them for running it down and then, like rats, abandoning ship.


  44. @Pacha

    There is something the blogmaster learned very early navigating the corridors of the corporate world, organizations owe no one anything except the few that own them.

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    Only getting what they all deserve.

  46. William Skinner Avatar

    @ WARU
    Now that Barrow has said it we may believe it ! Everybody knows that cultural development (Spouge) can be hampered by certain corporate interests.
    Slowly but surely the truth about outright nastiness that has been successfully practiced by certain elements , is being exposed for all the jokers that only want to be little bosses to see.
    Theses clowns spend their time concentrating on such lofty ideas such as who should be banned or banished from BU.
    Funny thing is that they may not or do not want to accept the facts.
    Can you imagine that a government would take up the NIS money and lend it to a private company to boost certain sports (golf)activities (Apes Hill) while it allowed the National Stadium to run to ruin.
    At least if the millions were loaned to build an ultra modern National Stadium, we would have seen something and use something to benefit the children and grand children, of those who are now in a state of shock over what is now happening to the NIS and the shaky ground of their pensions.
    More to come
    Peace


  47. David

    BTW

    Beckles was a mouth piece for a wider group.

    Subsequent events should be proof positive that his were not always in agreement with the rest.


  48. @Pacha

    Let us agree that Beckles worked an agenda that served a purpose. He is the ‘richer’ for it.


  49. I get all the News I need from the Weather Report
    What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger
    Hard Times to Jamaicans, and Black Americans just meant they made better music which they produced themselves and became super rich ghetto superstars.

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    “Now that Barrow has said it we may believe it ! Everybody knows that cultural development (Spouge) can be hampered by certain corporate interests.”

    William…it’s ugly….the oppression supported by wicked governments….who got the goddamn NERVE and audacity after letting the copyright for Jackie Opel to run out so the family will get nothing….am sure the same corporate frauds are now eyeing his music for exploitation while the government FRAUDS are up and down the world stage shouting out Bob Marley’s name every minute in their scams….

    if Marley was my relative they would see, THE DEMONS…..i would go all out for their dangerous rh..and put AN END TO THAT…

    “Theses clowns spend their time concentrating on such lofty ideas such as who should be banned or banished from BU.
    Funny thing is that they may not or do not want to accept the facts.”

    that’s on them, we already established that they int too bright and LOVE to show it up for the world to see EVERY DAMN DAY…..

    “Can you imagine that a government would take up the NIS money and lend it to a private company to boost certain sports (golf)activities (Apes Hill) while it allowed the National Stadium to run to ruin.”

    ANOTHER CRIME against the Afrikan population….ya should see the gym facilities and amenities when i was up there in Apes Hill couple years ago…..MILLION OF DOLLARS WORTH and TOP OF THE LINE….

    that money was too good to spend on Afrikan children and a new stadium…THE THIEVES..

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