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No Respect for Police Officers

The following note was received from a member of the BU family. This is a vodeo making the rounds on Bajan social media. I received the attached video yesterday depicting police involvement with a crowd during an apparent arrest. What struck me was the total disrespect shown for the authority of the police and the…

The following note was received from a member of the BU family. This is a vodeo making the rounds on Bajan social media.

I received the attached video yesterday depicting police involvement with a crowd during an apparent arrest. What struck me was the total disrespect shown for the authority of the police and the blatant attack on them in the execution of their duty. No fear whatsoever was shown toward the fact that the police were armed, and with an imposing looking firearm. This caused me to arrive at the conclusion that the weapon was not fit for purpose. That gun was as useless as a condom in a maternity ward. Can you imagine the outcry and repercussion had someone been shot by the police? So my question is, why are the police not provided with non-lethal means of controlling this type of behavior when confronted in this manner. I speak specifically of pepper spray and the latest in tasers. Either of these options would have subdued the aggressors without physical harm and restored the authority to the officers without them having to be subjected to the indignity of scuffling with ruffians.

BU Family member

96 responses to “No Respect for Police Officers”

  1. angela cox Avatar
    angela cox

    TheOGazertsMarch 13, 2022 1:18 PM

    @AC
    Have you ever posted a partial video?
    Have you ever commented on a partial video?
    Xxxx
    None that I remember when incidents of this kind are involved

  2. David Avatar
    David

    Do not agree Donna. There was a time this behaviour was standard but it has been improving.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    There is a lawlessness at large in the society. We have to view what happened at Chapman Lane in this context. Bear in mind we are not in position to address the matter knowing what was the trigger events.

  4. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Donna
    “Middle class blindness is what I would call your opinions. Unable to appreciate context!”

    But, isn’t this the problem with 90% of all topics raised on BU? Middle class excuses (blindness) and endorsements of any and every thing that does not affect that class directly. Or pretending that it doesn’t exist because they ( the middle class) believe they have escaped , from all the maladies.
    The police force, like everything else, is suffering mainly from political interference. When the Dees are in ; they promote their people. And when the Bees are in; they promote their people.
    This disconnect between the community and the police did not happen overnight.
    The political decay is affecting the proper governance of all state agencies.
    What makes us believe that the police would be immunized against the widespread crap ?
    There is plenty more to come unless somebody emerges to stop the rot.

  5. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    Improving how and since when? How has it been achieved? They have cameras in the interrogation room yet? They have body cameras? If not, how many complaints of abuse have been properly investigated and resolved? How many officers were charged with offences?

    Don’t give me that airy fairy opinion! Back it up, man!

    Besides which, the damaged to the reputation of the police is already done. It will take more than a little airy fairy nonsense to restore the respect of these communities.

    Up until the time just three years ago when I had to lodge my complaint, no policeman or woman had ever disrespected me or mine in any way. It happened to people like those in Chapman Lane, as a matter of course. It was bad enough what that policeman said to my son……but to have the Station Sargeant say that I was lucky that the officer did not pull his gun showed how deeply the culture was engrained.

    But the POLICEMAN was lucky that he did not pull his gun! The apology and the offer to make amends somehow was proof that I managed to convey who had “dodged a bullet”.

    Donna doan play!

  6. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    William,

    I cannot speak for anyone but myself. I believe that Barbados suffers from almost every ill that is suffered everywhere else – to varying degrees.

    It is the extent of the problem on which we sometimes differ.

  7. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    There is a lawlessness at large – in the police service too!

    Just as it is up to a parent to set a moral example for his/her child or else face the consequences of an unruly child, so it is the responsibility of the policeman and woman to set a law-abiding example for the community he/she expects to police or face the consequences of a disrespectful community.

    These are their chickens coming home to roost.

    I hope the lesson is not lost on them. It is not too late for a reset, I hope.

  8. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    With social media it is difficult for the police to operate like it did in the past.

  9. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    Nobody is disagreeing with you that there is room for improvement in the police force. What the blogmaster is saying that based on what is being portrayed in the video there is no excuse to side with those who agree with the assault to the policewoman even if mistakes were made by the police.

  10. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David; @ Donna
    We are constantly expecting the governed to set proper examples. Our society cannot progress without proper examples from the top. We have no wriggle room when leadership is excused for poor decision making.
    What really is former Commissioner’s Dottin’s role.? Why was he brought back into the administration? What are his real terms of reference ?
    Why are the millions of taxpayers money being paid out to those police who won a recent law case being kept a secret?
    The lawlessness is symptomatic of a broader lack of plain talk and decisiveness of the collective political leadership. And who ever disagrees with that is being intellectually dishonest.
    How can an Attorney General remain in office after losing every legal battle with a citizen.
    We are burying our heads in the sand but are we really being honest in our assessments of what is wrong in our country.
    About thirty years ago Commish. Orville Durant said his hands were tied ,(Plastic Bag)in going after some people. Have things got any better since then?
    I was taught from very small that I am supposed to keep round the house clean. I was never taught to compare nasty yards ;just to keep mine clean!
    I grew up hearing Bajans declare that certain things “can’t happen ‘ bout hey. “Every damn thing and more has happened.!
    We have these plasters for every single sore and the sore is getting bigger by the minute.
    Why are we refusing to admit that there has been a systematic growth in deviant behavior that we endorsed strictly for partisan political/ party/ personality reasons.
    How honest are we when critiquing what’s wrong with the country ? I opine we are not honest at all.
    Hopefully after the budget we can all breathe a sigh of relief that we are seriously trying to get back on track.
    Right now talk and action are not adding up.
    The PM asked for a fresh mandate and she got the ultimate. We all need to declare this extended honeymoon over. Time to govern . She has three ministers in her office; she has appointed some senior ministers and she has a Chief of Staff. We have given her everything she has asked for. Do the work !!!
    Stamp out the bullshit where ever it is. Elections are five years away. Get off the platform.

  11. David Avatar
    David

    William leader has to come from the top, a given.

    Good leaders come from among us.
    #gigo

  12. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. My point exactly! The “good” behaviour you saw exhibited was because of the number of people who could have been recording, not because of any change in attitude. What happens when there are no cameras? Are there cameras in the police stations?

    You mekking bare mock sport at this issue, David!

    Chickens will come home to roost!

  13. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    William,

    All questions to which we should have the answers.

  14. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    We have our opinions, all of us.

  15. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    The police in Barbados treat all decent citizens with the utmost respect. Anyone who sees it differently is not a decent citizen.

    Tron, leader of the new POLM (police officers’ lives matter) movement. Refund the police!

  16. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, it’s often quite distressing to read this lack of attention to what’s before us!

    You said “What the blogmaster is saying that based on what is being portrayed in the video there is no excuse to side with those who agree with the assault to the policewoman even if mistakes were made by the police.” You are focusing on the OBVIOUS uncouth behaviour. That is EXPECTED by people who are disenfranchised and feel victimized and who live and love in what we unceremoniously call ‘the hood’.

    Let us recognize that in 2022 NO POLICE department should be so ‘carefree’ in handling possibly violent, indifferent suspects.

    This cannot be a question about the mob … again I repeat (rather unkindly maybe) that ‘jackasses will bray and kick’ … but the person who is expected to manage the jackass is sent to ensure that it does not cause such a ruckus; you expect a trained donkey handler, particularly when the jackass is very stubborn and own-wayish. If you send another jackass to mange that first jackass or jackass then all hell will break loose, surely! … And then you gine tell me that the original jackasses are 100% blameworthy. Really!

    Why do we just see the obvious stupidity of a bunch of lawless vagabonds and overlook the also obvious actions of surely a brave police officer who ‘carelessly’ (her actions on the vid) put her life and those of her colleagues at risk in a charged environment rather than de-escalate a possible problem! SMH.

    Stop alluding to the obvious that one is expected to quietly OBEY the direct orders of a PO … it’s also obvious that a PO is supposed to use training best practices in dangerous situations!

    That police lady could have started a fracas that today would have been a massive national incident just like Rodney King or any other such terrible international police event simply because she acted in a manner that opened her and her colleagues to questions about proper professional execution.

  17. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    To repeat, the lawlessness portrayed in the video must be condemned. Period!

  18. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    No period for me, especially when your condemnation will make not a shred of difference to life in the ghetto, The police have the solution in their hands. Protect and serve ALL citizens according to the law!

    Correction: citizens should comply with all LAWFUL AND REASONABLE instructions from police officers.

  19. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    “a brave police officer who ‘carelessly’ (her actions on the vid) put her life and those of her colleagues at risk in a charged environment rather than de-escalate a possible problem!’

    “That police lady could have started a fracas that today would have been a massive national incident just like Rodney King or any other such terrible international police event simply because she acted in a manner that opened her and her colleagues to questions about proper professional execution.”

    Once again you saw something in the video that I did not see. It appears you are now assigning blame to the female PO. I am unable to make that leap.

    We do not see what caught her attention or the first point of contact with four or five women.

  20. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    But we are almost on the same page.

    With the heavy weaponry as the only solution this confrontation could have ended very badly.

    The possibly outcome of a sad ending is the point that most commenters are trying to make.

  21. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Theo, you really don’t get it… SMH. I am not apportioning blame as some abstract attempt to victimize the female officer … I see her actions as careless because of the possible greater problems that could have resulted. I do NOT suggest for one moment that she was not trying to do her assigned job. Rather that she did not do it as well as she could

    Every such situation where there are guns and heightened tensions can be a powder keg where one spark (careless but legally justified police act or illegal act from a lawless suspect) can cause an explosion.

    To repeat, again as best as I can: Our police department or ANY police department MUST carefully engage to AVOID any such explosions … the proliferation of videos such as this has created their own layer of tension and anxiety and police officers MUST use their training and all that awareness to their best advantage.

    What caused her action may have been quite justified … her response must yet be even more reasoned and practical and as safe as possible.

    Haven’t we seen enough of the raucous reactions to police miscalculations or their absolutely legal errors in judgement. What exactly is so difficult to understand about that. Alas!

  22. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    EUREKA! 👍🎶🥳

  23. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    where I live

  24. John Avatar
    John

    The problem is lawlessness at the top.

    Trudeau and his lot have shown themselves up in dealing with the truckers.

    Here, Ms. Mockley and her lot are continuing their 4 year long mock parliament.

    Putin is behaving as a law unto his own self.

    What do you expect?

  25. BMcDonald Avatar
    BMcDonald

    The Barbados Police Service is one of the few functioning Governmental Institutions that stand between an orderly society and chaos. The reputation of the Police cannot be permitted to be torn down by anecdotal episodic recounting. We cannot rationalize anti-police sentiment in Barbados on the basis of police practice here or elsewhere outide of a hearing before the Agency that deals with complaints about Police conduct or the Courts. Anything else is speculation. The good conduct of hundreds of Police officers must not be sullied by speculation where there is no intention to confront the bad actors in a tribunal setting.

  26. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    My focus is on what I saw in the video (no more, no less). My naive opinion.

    Some have pointed out that the nature of the police response is dependent on the location.

    It is difficult to look at how heavily armed the police were and not think of very troubled areas in different part of the world. The real lesson here is that some areas in Barbados may be powder kegs just waiting for a spark.

    There is a saying ‘to a hammer, everything is a nail’. Let’s hope the RoBPF armed themselves with more than hammers so that their response can be adjusted to suit both the situation and location. Guns alone are not enough. Guns do mainly one thing, shoot.

    A next positive of video, is, based on their reaction, some persons in the ‘crowd’ had no fear of being shot. They display an element of trust in a sensible response from the RoBPF.

  27. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ TheOGazerts,

    The policewoman had a gun in a holster while being attacked by 3 or 4 women.

    One of those women could have grabbed her gun and start shooting.( hypothetically )

  28. African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved Avatar
    African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    “About thirty years ago Commish. Orville Durant said his hands were tied ,(Plastic Bag)in going after some people. Have things got any better since then?”

    their hands are only tied because they KNOW they cannot go into certain areas with that level of brute force that they use in Chapman Lane and other areas without massive BLOWBACK……dem uppin dem hifalutin areas know too mucha bout all a dem..

  29. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ BMcDonald March 14, 2022 9:51 AM

    Why not also see it as Karma’s return to settle a score called the Ashton Ross standoff?

    If only that officer had a direct connection to a certain well-publicised number nothing of the sort would have occurred!

    When people sow hypocrisy they normally reap the bad fruits of their double-standards.

  30. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    I fully agree with all that you have written.

    Or we could have had the police shooting someone.

    That is why I give the RoBPF credit for remaining calm/sensible/controlled in the face of such behavior.

    But my point: from the video the police had just two responses, shoot or not shoot. I would like them to have more options…

  31. 555dubstreet Avatar
    555dubstreet

    N.W.A.
    Right about now NWA court is in full effect
    Judge Dre presiding in the case of NWA versus the police department.
    Prosecuting attourneys are MC Ren, Ice Cube and Eazy motherfuckin’ E
    Order, order, order, Ice Cube take the motherfuckin’ stand
    Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth
    And nothin’ but the truth so help your black ass?
    You goddamn right
    Well, won’t you tell everybody what the fuck you gotta say?

    Fuck the police comin’ straight from the underground
    A Young nigga got it bad ’cause I’m brown
    And not the other color so police think
    They have the authority to kill a minority
    Fuck that shit, ’cause I ain’t the one
    For a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
    To be beatin’ on, and thrown in jail
    We can go toe-to-toe in the middle of a cell

    Fuckin with me ’cause I’m a teenager
    With a little bit of gold and a pager
    Searchin’ my car, lookin’ for the product
    Thinkin’ every nigga is sellin’ narcotics

    You’d rather see me in the pen
    Than me and Lorenzo rollin’ in the Benzo
    Beat a police outta shape
    And when I’m finished, bring the yellow tape
    To tape off the scene of the slaughter
    Still getting swole off bread and water

    I don’t know if they fags or what
    Search a nigga down and grabbin’ his nuts
    And on the other hand, without a gun, they can’t get none
    But don’t let it be a black and a white one
    ‘Cause they’ll slam ya down to the street top
    Black police showin’ out for the white cop

    Ice Cube will swarm
    On any motherfucker in a blue uniform
    Just ’cause I’m from the CPT, punk police are afraid of me
    A young nigga on a warpath
    And when I’m finished, it’s gonna be a bloodbath
    Of cops, dyin’ in L.A.
    Yo Dre, I got somethin’ to say

    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck the-, fuck the-
    Fuck the police (Example of scene one)

    Pull your goddamn ass over right now
    Aw shit, now what the fuck you pullin’ me over for?
    ‘Cause I feel like it
    Just sit your ass on the curb and shut the fuck up
    Man, fuck this shit
    Alright, smart-ass, I’m taking your black ass to jail
    MC Ren, will you please give your testimony
    To the jury about this fucked up incident

    Fuck the police and Ren said it with authority
    Because the niggas on the street is a majority
    A gang, is with whoever I’m steppin’
    And the motherfuckin’ weapon is kept in
    A stash spot, for the so-called law
    Wishin’ Ren was a nigga that they never saw

    Lights start flashin’ behind me
    But they’re scared of a nigga so they mace me to blind me
    But that shit don’t work, I just laugh
    Because it gives ’em a hint not to step in my path
    For police, I’m sayin’, “Fuck you, punk”
    Readin’ my rights and shit, it’s all junk
    Pullin’ out a silly club, so you stand
    With a fake-ass badge and a gun in your hand

    But take off the gun so you can see what’s up
    And we’ll go at it, punk, I’ma fuck you up
    Make ya think I’m a kick your ass
    But drop your gat, and Ren’s gonna blast
    I’m sneaky as fuck when it comes to crime
    But I’m a smoke ’em now, and not next time

    Smoke any motherfucker that sweats me
    Or any asshole that threatens me
    I’m a sniper with a hell of a scope
    Takin’ out a cop or two, they can’t cope with me

    The motherfuckin’ villian that’s mad
    With potential to get bad as fuck
    So I’m a turn it around
    Put in my clip, yo, and this is the sound
    Yeah, somethin’ like that, but it all depends on the size of the gat
    Takin’ out a police would make my day
    But a nigga like Ren don’t give a fuck to say

    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck the-, fuck the-
    Fuck the police

    Yeah, man, what you need?
    Police, open now (Aww, shit)
    We have a warrant for Eazy-E’s arrest
    Get down and put your hands right where I can see ’em!
    Man, what the fuck did I do? Man, what did I do?
    Just shut the fuck up and get your motherfucking ass on the floor!
    But I didn’t do shit
    Man, just shut the fuck up!
    Eazy-E, won’t you step up to the stand
    And tell the jury how you feel about this bullshit?

    I’m tired of the motherfuckin’ jackin’
    Sweatin’ my gang while I’m chillin’ in the shack, and
    Shining the light in my face, and for what?
    Maybe it’s because I kick so much butt
    I kick ass, or maybe ’cause I blast
    On a stupid ass nigga when I’m playin’ with the trigger

    Of any Uzi or an AK
    ‘Cause the police always got somethin’ stupid to say
    They put up my picture with silence
    ‘Cause my identity by itself causes violence
    The E with the criminal behavior
    Yeah, I’m a gangster, but still, I got flavor

    Without a gun and a badge, what do ya got?
    A sucka in a uniform waitin’ to get shot
    By me, or another nigga.
    And with a gat, it don’t matter if he’s smarter or bigger
    (Size don’t mean shit, he’s from the old school, fool)

    And as you all know, E’s here to rule
    Whenever I’m rollin’, keep lookin in the mirror
    And ears on cue, yo, so I can hear a
    Dumb motherfucker with a gun
    And if I’m rollin’ off the eight, he’ll be the one
    That I take out, and then get away
    While I’m drivin off laughin’
    This is what I’ll say

    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck-
    Fuck the police, fuck-, fuck-
    Fuck the police (The verdict)

    The jury has found you guilty of being a redneck
    Whitebread, chicken shit motherfucker
    Wait, that’s a lie, that’s a goddamn lie
    Get him out of here (I want justice)
    Get him the fuck out my face (I want justice)
    Out, right now
    Fuck you, you black motherfuckers

    Fuck the police
    Fuck the police
    Fuck the police

    Fuck Tha Police

  32. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    Anecdotal evidence, my ass! At what point does anecdotal evidence become overwhelming? Anecdotal evidence is not anecdotal to those who experience the event.

    My cousin lodged a complaint. How far did it go? NOWHERE, as usual.

    You people strike me as people who simply want the police to keep YOU AND YOURS safe from the “rabble”. How they do it is not your concern as long as it is hardly likely to directly affect you.

    But it will affect you indirectly. Because this disrespect for law enforcement officers, whatever its cause, makes for disrespect for the LAW and disregard for the society that empowers them. And then there are no boundaries that will not be crossed and all hell breaks loose.

  33. David Avatar
    David

    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/uploads/sittings/attachments/364922eb216ddd9da6b1a0b067469e9e.pdf

  34. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    I am curious to know what you gleaned from the report.

  35. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    The report is an fyi.

    The PCA needs to be given more muscle to do its job. This is highlighted in the report.

    To your question, it is a mechanism that should be used to lend more transparency to how complaints are managed and important- encourage greater feedback from the public to steer complaints away from direct to police.

  36. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    David,

    When nothing comes of the complaints for a lengthy period and when the police are involved in investigating themselves, there can be no trusting the system.

    I could have gleaned the date of my son’s interaction by calling the Principal of Foundation School My name was in his appointment book the day after the interaction occurred. The officer could have been identified from among those on patrol of the area that day.

    I chose instead to take it to the source because I knew the officer would get my message. The Station Sargeant asked what my son wished to be the outcome and my son asked that officers be better trained in how to approach such situations.

    I thought this approach to be better than lodging a complaint with a toothless agency.

    My point? MY complaint is not among the reported stats. Imagine how many ghetto guys and gals think it a waste of time, based on past experience.

  37. David Avatar
    David

    @Donna

    Agree the system for managing complaints with PCA is only being served in the breach. We need to make material changes to that process.

  38. Dame+Bajans Avatar
    Dame+Bajans

    @Donna,
    you appear to be the only one who is logical, rational and objective about this matter. With you it is not hearsay, it is reality.

  39. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Is this related?
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/03/22/additional-chapman-lane-residents-face-law-courts-regarding-march-11-incident/

  40. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Two good reads. I have no comments.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/12/08/court-views-video-of-police-interview-with-murder-accused/

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/12/08/accused-says-he-admitted-to-murder-to-avoid-further-torture/

  41. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    There is a related story in BT (No complaints on admission to prison) indicating that the prisoner did not complain of injury when admitted to Dodds. It is not difficult to imagine a prisoner being warned and threatened with further beatings if he uttered one word of the prior beating to anyone.

    Examination by medical staff a few days later found “soft tissue trauma to his back and left shoulder along with a broken pre-molar’. The police Sergeant then indicated that this injury was found three days after being house with the general population- (I would believe the Sergeant if she could provide records of the prisoner being engaged in a fight at the prison).

    I was trying to find a site which was describing various police beatings and methods the police employed… the beating is administered but the effects are usually not visible to the naked eye …. Soft tissue injury is the outcome.

  42. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    For the sake of discussion let us assume that rumors of police beatings and the police extracting false confession are in circulation. Let us assume that there is a second rumor, this one being that some members of the police force are in cahoots with know criminals.

    Note that these rumors do not have to be true, they just have to be in circulation.

    Now let us believe that you are the average Bajan who has some information that is valuable to the police and you are aware of these two rumors, would you “snitch”?
    What are the possible outcome of snitching
    (1) The information is used properly
    (2) The information is relayed to bad guys
    (3) You get a cut ass and forced to sign a false confession
    Are you going to roll the die and make the call to the police

    You can see how rumors can stem the flow of information to the police. Hopefully, there is no truth in accusations or rumors?

  43. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Do you see how the US solve the problem of shooting unarmed young black men. Brilliant. Young unarmed black men will still be shot, but you will sound like an idiot when you accused a robot of racism.

    But wait a minute! Well, they thought they had it solved, but there was an outcry against passing the blame to robots. People are not foolish.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2022-12-06/san-francisco-police-cant-use-deadly-robots-for-now

    AI in any form is not the solution to the social problems facing US society, The programmers and the test cases are usually not people of color. The algorithms they develop usually contain the built in biases of the programmers. These algorithms do a hell of a job for light-skinned people (the test cases) but against dark-skinned folks are often a failure.

    https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/how-artificial-intelligence-can-deepen-racial-and-economic-inequities

    https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2020/racial-discrimination-in-face-recognition-technology/

  44. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    Guns don’s shoot people. social media does

    BT
    ‘Social media may be partly to blame for the rise in gun crime amongst young men.’
    https://barbadostoday.bb/2022/12/08/wrong-influence/

  45. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    There is the expression – Respect is earned, not given.
    There appears to be a story in the Nation of police listening/taping conversations between lawyers and their clients.

  46. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    There is a story of young police recruits earning a flat fee of $2600 BDS dollars/month and guess how much is the monthly fee for meals – $900 – $1300.

    That is how you let ‘young policemen’ know they are weak/impotent/powerless even as they are being trained. You act bold face and rob them in front of their very eyes. Reminding them that they are small players and they are only in the game because the higher ups included them.

    I can see myself outside of the camp with some wood, a pot, cooking and selling meals to this youngsters. But they would probably send one of these youngsters to hold me until the ‘real police’ get there – that would be a big joke for them – Wunna see how we got one of de peeple he was trying to help to arrest he.. sheer brilliance. We gi he back he pot, but we know he aint coming back.

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