The Covid 19 pandemic rages largely because of the highly infectious delta variant and it has raised questions about the quality of decision making by the public health establishment. 

In Barbados recommendations from the Barbados Association of Medical Practitioners (BAMP) continue to be at odds with public health directives. Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anton Best was obliged to support government’s recent decision to amend the travel protocol to allow fully vaccinated visitors with a valid PCR test to skip a second test and to observe quarantine. Bear in mind the ease in the entry requirement comes at a time the Covid 19 infection curve has not plateaued. 

The other question being asked is the reluctance of the medical fraternity in Barbados, both, public and private to deviate from the ‘script’ by prescribing off-label drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Although the establishment has not authorized these drugs to treat Covid 19, several favourable reports have been reported by some medical practitioners. We know the several Covid 19 vaccines are certified to prevent serious illness and death BUT …

Has the time come for Barbados health officials both public and private to agree to expand therapeutic options to treat Barbadians in the prevailing environment, approved by the FDA be damned?

313 responses to “BU Covid Dash – Does the CMO Have Courage to Deviate from the ‘Script’?”


  1. Link or not, it is obvious that Barbados is in deep doo doo, coronawise.

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    @ Hants
    How can you extrapolate from a COVID metric in Ontario to a prediction of the depth of Barbados Doo Doo. I missed a link in the logic. Help us out here.

    I guess the missing link is knowing Barbados’ positivity rate. The 7 day average is 16% or just using yesterday’s numbers 20% (260 cases to 1293 tests)

    Ontario’s positivity rate would be 2.1% (19,840 tests to 422 new cases ). Hence Barbados has a 8 times higher positivity rate but a population 50 times smaller than Ontario. Hence the deep doo doo “assessment”


  3. Let’s take a look at Japan, no one can explain the plummeting cases.

    https://imgur.com/8XW1UCF

    The experts are baffled. “Japan’s plummeting Covid cases has experts puzzled. Some say spikes and plunges is mainly due to trends in human activity, others say the phenomenon is seasonal”

    https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world/asia/2021-10-05-japans-plummeting-covid-cases-has-experts-puzzled/

    John Knox isn’t!!!

    Look at the Characteristic Curve for Japan, remove the surges due to flooding and waterborne transmission, and you will see why.

    2021 has just been a bad year for flooding all over the world, La Nina.

    COVID would not have been the terror it has been and is had it happened in a period of drought where it could not spread.

    A couple of years ago it would just have been another interesting virus and the experts would be warning us it was a precursor to a pandemic.

    John Knox’s interpretation is that Japan has a good public water supply which can be breached by extreme flooding but which will return to normal quickly and prevent the spread of COVID.


  4. Here are the most recent floods in Japan. Last one seems to be in August. They seem to have abated and JApan has been “flood free” in September and October.

    https://floodlist.com/tag/japan

    Japan – Dozens Rescued From Floods, 3 Killed in Mudslide After More Heavy Rain
    15 AUGUST, 2021

    Japan – Deadly Mudslide in Nagasaki After 743mm of Rain in 2 Days
    13 AUGUST, 2021

    Japan – Evacuations in Kagoshima After 95mm of Rain in 1 Hour
    11 JULY, 2021

    Japan – Many Still Missing in Atami Mudslide as Search and Rescue Operations Continue
    7 JULY, 2021

    Japan – 2 Dead, 20 Feared Missing After Rain Triggers Mudslide in Shizuoka Prefecture
    3 JULY, 2021


  5. Authorities in Japan had to evacuate 5 million people in August.

    That it has recovered so rapidly is testament to the resilience of its water supply and the technical personnel.

    I would say engineers but I know peeps on here are very fragile and they will think I am blowing my horn as an engineer.

    I appreciate a soundly designed system.

    Acts of God happen and all we can do is pick up the pieces and continue.


  6. Now lets look at Barbados and New Zealand.

    Both recently had floods, but on different scales.

    Both are in the situation where COVID cases are rising.

    New Zealand is far better controlled as is evident in the difference in the vertical scales.

    Both will plateau and return to “normal”.and in the absence of more floods, the experts will continue to be baffled.

    New Zealand should do it quicker because it seems its rate of growth of cases is smaller than here.

    Here is Barbados

    https://imgur.com/skZPiwS

    Here is New Zealand

    https://imgur.com/tBzxhUa

    The New Zealand population is far fitter than the one in Barbados so Barbados will unfortunately suffer many more deaths than New Zealand.


  7. DL&P TV;
    You said above
    “I guess the missing link is knowing Barbados’ positivity rate. The 7 day average is 16% or just using yesterday’s numbers 20% (260 cases to 1293 tests). Ontario’s positivity rate would be 2.1% (19,840 tests to 422 new cases ). Hence Barbados has a 8 times higher positivity rate but a population 50 times smaller than Ontario. Hence the deep doo doo “assessment””.

    I wonder if we are comparing Apples and Mangoes. I accept your figures and your math that indicates that Barbados may be in deep doo, but, are we sure that the process and populations are comparable? I’m not sure how the Ontario Labs choose the persons to be tested and the randomness of their sampling, but, is it possible that Ontario, with its vast resources, might be using a testing protocol where their tests might be more or less representative of the target population (Ontario) per se while Barbados might only be sampling persons who were direct or indirect contacts of persons proven to have contracted the disease. e.g, does the Barbados data capture and include the people who get tested outside of the official labs using non-PCR tests? Are persons tested outside of those who present with symptoms of Covid-19? Are the contact tracers now back to a manageable situation with the Delta variant? …………..

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    @lyall i was really filling in the “missing link” as to why Hants assessed that we are in deep doo doo. Not that I support the comparison between Ontario and Barbados but I agree with the deep doo doo conclusion using other shall we say metrics

    Dr Clyde Cave recently assessed that we may be dealing with a higher rate of spread than the daily numbers suggest. I have to agree as

    1) Barbados now has the 3rd highest increase in cases per million IN THE WORLD. This stat tries compare he rate of spread among countries. It will skew towards countries with smaller populations. Dominica is the only other island in the top 20. All the rest are smaller European countries

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

    2) Barbados has one of the highest population densities in the world (15th highest), even higher along the south and west coast (St. James, St Michael, Christ Church, St Philip. So even if we had the same positively rate of Ontario we would have the comparatively worse problem.

    Added to the above, the dropping rate of vaccinations and my (pretty safe) assumption that the daily detected cases are only part of total actual cases. These are not a good mix when dealing with a highly contagious virus so can also (safely state that Barbados is in deep, DEEP, elephant sized doo doo….. lol.

    The situation will also further support my case for a universal (min single dose) proof of vaccination OR recent negative test mandate. I think it the loosest mandate for risk mitigation with an absolute vaccine mandate in the usual sectors.


  9. @ John November 2, 2021 12:11 AM
    “The New Zealand population is far fitter than the one in Barbados so Barbados will unfortunately suffer many more deaths than New Zealand.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Good observation you have made there, Dear John!

    After all, the Kiwis don’t consume the tons of old dog meat which Bajans call ‘imported’ lamb instead of the much healthier meat of their own black belly sheep.

    We support you in your call to the Bajan authorities to improve significantly the management of the country’s water especially in the disposal of the liquid waste laced with dangerous chemicals.

    Unless the dumping of the liquid waste off the country’s shores is stopped in the very near future the damage done will be irreparable with serious implications for the sustenance of both marine and land life.

    What we want to see you do is to disabuse your own mind of the Judeo fairytale of a 6-day Creation and use your knowledge of ‘real’ science to tell us if there is any correlation between the ongoing vagaries of the water and the possible rise in viral pandemics on the one hand and the man-induced warming of the planet on the other.


  10. RE What we want to see you do is to disabuse your own mind of the Judeo fairytale of a 6-day Creation and use your knowledge of ‘real’ science to tell us if there is any correlation between the ongoing vagaries of the water and the possible rise in viral pandemics on the one hand and the man-induced warming of the planet on the other.

    1 PLEASE KINDLY INDICATE HOW THE GENESIS ACCOUNT OF THE CREATION OR THE NUMEROUS OTHER VERSES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE ACCURATELY DESCRIBE THE CREATION, AND SIMULTANEOUSLY CONFOUND THE MORONIC MOUTHINGS OF SKEPTICS AGNOSTICS AND ATHEISTS SO CALLED

    2 PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN WHY GIRAFFES ARE THE ONLY MAMMALS THAT HAVE VALVES IN THEIR CAROTID ARTERIES. PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN WHY IS THIS NECESSARY AND HOW THIS ANOMALY EVOLVED

    3 PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE NO DISEASES RELATED TO DEFICIENCIES OF LACK OF ENZYMES IN THE KREBS CYCLE

    4 PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW”man-induced warming of the planet HAS OCCURED?
    5 PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN WHEN MAN KIND WAS EVER IN CHARGE OF THE PLANET, AND HOW THIS HAPPENED?
    6 PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW CO2 EMMISIONS CAN CAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE OR GLOBAL WARMING, BY DETAILING THE CHEMICAL PROCESSES THAT ARE/WERE INVOLVED WITH THE APPROPRIATE BALANCED EQUATIONS.
    7 WHY IS IT THAT MIA OCKLEY THINK THAT SHE CAN GO TO GLASGOW AND TALK SO MUCH BOVINE EXUDATE ABOUT MATTERS ABOUT WHICH SHE KOWS NAUGHT?

    CAN ANYONE use your knowledge of ‘real’ science to tell us THE ANSWERS TO ANY OF THESE QIESTIONS
    I AWAIT YOUR ANSWERS AS I ANTICIAPATE A GREAT DEAL OF MIRTH


  11. If the Corona Virus had been released a couple of years earlier, it would not have had the benefit of worldwide floods to assist its spread.

    The climate cycles.

    Check this site if you interested in the numbers that characterise the cycles.

    https://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ONI_v5.php

    Roughly speaking, the blue years are La Nina, the red are El Nino.

    Did you know that back in the 70”s and 80’s another ice age was predicted by the experts but never happened?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

    The Solar Flare a couple of days ago will do more to the earth’s climate than mankind could ever do.


  12. Whosoever released the virus got the climate cycle dead on.


  13. Did you know the earth had a mini ice age 700 years ago?


  14. Miller;
    Pandemic modelling is an inexact science. It is far behind the less inexact science of meterological modelling which has improved by leaps and bounds over the last few decades. As such there are numerous factors that influence the onset and development of epidemics. No existing model can delineate the myriad characteristics and dependencies of an outbreak at the present time. I suspect John’s simplistic tale of water having an overweening determining effect on Covid-19 dynamics is far from correct.


  15. Pick a country, let’s say Brazil and look at the repeated surges and their correlation to floods.

    No recent floods and things returning to normal gradually.

    Try Iran.

    Look at various states in the US.

    You will observe the empirical evidence of the link between water and the virus.

    … and of course, Japan!!

    Grenada is good to look at as is Dominica.

    Our rise in cases is not because people are not wearing their masks right, or not social distancing or not hand sanitizing.

    These don’t explain the observations.

    Our problems are water related and caused by one or maybe two of the many sources of water we have.

    80% of our water is good.

    If you are lucky enough not to live in an area in the distribution zone fed from the one or two sources you won’t have neighbours with COVID.

    Go and take a look see.

    Ask around your friends and plot the few cases you and they know of on a map.

    You will find they are mostly in the elevations below 140 feet, just where the MOH said they were.

    The obvious fix is to track down the source, shut it off and disinfect any reservoirs it supplies.


  16. I’ve been doing it for a while, asking if anyone knows of cases and where they live.

    I got my first two households at the 220 foot level a couple of days ago but suspect they got it the airborne way.

    We will leave Endor and its witch for the moment up in the wilds of St. Thomas.


  17. A Top Pfizer Exec Wants Women To STOP TAKING THE VACCINE!
    ByPRETCHIPosted on November 1, 2021

    Late last year, a semi-retired British scientist co-authored a petition to Europe’s medicines regulator. The petitioners made a bold demand: Halt COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials.

    The COVID-19 vaccines have been the biggest modern controversy the entire world is facing due to their inconsistent results that most of the time it is putting the recipients’ life in danger.

    Recently, the former vice president Dr. Michael Yeadon who happens to be a former chief scientist for allergy and respiratory at Pfizer has announced that women should not take these vaccines (Pfizer) after exposing that it could give bad effects on fertility.Given that there are no long-term studies about the COVID vaccines effects, it has been a true wonder why these people are taking these jabs. Funny, right?

    Also, the CDC has confirmed that these vaccines do not prevent the transmission of the virus. What’s the point of enforcing vaccines if it does not keep you away from the Covid virus? Oh Biden, Wake up!Dr. Yeadon said in a statement previously, “You’re being lied to, I’m being lied to, the authorities are not giving us full information about the risks of these products.”

    “We never, ever, give experimental medicines to pregnant women. Why do we not do that?…simply we have been exposed to a new product for morning sickness called thalidomide and it led to at least 10,000 birth malformations.” Dr. Yeadon added.

    Studies that were conducted on the morning sickness drug before releasing it were not capable of identifying “thalidomide as a toxin in the womb,” he said, adding that the tragedy taught scientists that “babies are not safe and protected inside the uterus, which is what we used to think. But they’re a miracle of minute development. Critical stages, especially in the early stages, where it interfered with biochemicals or something else, can change the course of development of that child irreparably.”

    “You never give inadequately tested medicines, medicinal products, to a pregnant woman,” Yeadon emphasized. “And that is exactly what is happening. Our government is urging pregnant women, and women of childbearing age, to get vaccinated. And they’re telling them they’re safe. And that’s a lie because those studies have simply not been done.”

    “Reproductive toxicology has not been undertaken with any of these products, certainly not a full battery of tests that you would want,” he added.

    “So, here we are. There’s been potentially hundreds of millions of women of child-bearing potential [injected] with products which are untested in terms of impacts on fertilization and development of the baby,” Yeadon continued.

    “That’s bad enough because what that tells me is that there’s recklessness. No one cares. The authorities do not care what happens,” the former Pfizer VP said.

    Should the Government still consider making these vaccines a requirement for essential?

    CAN WE GET SOME MIRTH FROM THE BU PHARMACOLOGY ILITERATES WHO ARE WANNABE EXPERTS ON THINGS ABOUT PHARMACOLOGICAL PROCESSES

    IF TRUMP WAS STILL IN OFFICE CERTAIN JACKASSES WHO POST HERE ON PHARMACOLOGY LIKE PROFESSOR NITWIWIT SARGEANT WOULD BE TALLING US THAT THE EMERGENCY APPROVED
    “”VACINES” WERE DEVELOPED MUCH TOO QUICKLY AT WARPED SPEED WITHOUT THE DUE PROCESSS——AS INDEED THEY WERE…UH LIE


  18. RE I suspect John’s simplistic tale of water having an overweening determining effect on Covid-19 dynamics is far from correct.

    WHETHER JOHN”S VIEWS ARE SIMPLISTIC OR CORRECT CAN EASILY BE DETERMINED BY PERIODIC MICROBIOLOGICAL ASSAY OF WATER COLLECTED IN THE AREAS HE DEEMS SUSPECT AND COMPARE THIS WITH WATER COLLECTED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE ISLAND

    THE BU MOCKING MORONS DO WHAT THEY DO BEST AND WHAT THEY ARE EQUIPPED TO DO MOCK AND SCOFF AND PULL DOWN, BUT JOHN ALONE HAS SOUGHT TO EMPLOY THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD

    THE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THIS: IS WATER QUALITY IN BARBADOS NOT TESTED WEEKLY BY MICROBIOLOGICAL ASSAY OF WATER COLLECTED IN SEVERAL AREAS OF THE ISLAND AS IT USED TO BE. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THIS WAS INDEED DONE BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN SO DOING BACK IN 1972 WHILE EMPLOYED AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAB BRIEFLY

    ARE THESE PROCEDDURES NO LONGER DONE BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT?


  19. I knew a person doing water testing in the 1990’s at the time the desal plant came into operation so I presume it is still proceeding.

    The numbers were to have been made public but never were.

    Shutting down beaches is a touchy subject.

    It is only when the sewage system failed with its visual evidence on the South Coast that beaches were actually shut down.

    When I started looking at water quality I quickly realised that the testing is only for certain contaminants.

    Not possible to test for all.

    I don’t recall there being any testing for viruses and this is a new one but that was a long time ago.

    I’ve made the suggestion to relevant persons and in writing because it is evident to me that water is involved in the spread of this virus.

    I would imagine if they can test humans for the virus they should be able to test water, potable and sea.

    For me personally, I stopped going in the sea anywhere in Barbados decades ago and I am not going near any water in the Southern Corridor for some time to come.


  20. THEO
    WHEN EVER YOU WAKE UP
    OR WHEN EVER THE WIFELET YOU BACK IN FRO SHOVELLING SNOW

    HAVE A LAFF WID ME HEY LAUGHTER IS SAID TO BE DE BEST MEDICINE IN DE GOOD BOOK
    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/11/02/bprs-top-political-cartoons-of-the-day-heroes-to-zeros-under-biden-1157062/?utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_campaign=bizpac


  21. Lets look at Grenada

    Cases are now down to 3.

    Still have 127 active cases but they are resolving.

    Soon Grenada will be back to normal …. once no more floods.

    This will also happen in Barbados, and New Zealand and other countries.

    Will we learn from the experience and fix the water?

    https://imgur.com/04FBXq6


  22. Here’s a flood in Grenada in July 2021.

    A flood like this changes up everything!!


  23. Hopefully it is visible from Glasgow!!


  24. as you all know since i GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP MANY YEARS A GO I SORTA STOPPED BEING BRIGHT SO I WOULD LIKE YOU FOLK WHO ARE CURRENTLY FAR BRIGHTER THAAN I AM OR EVER WAS OR WILL BE TO HELP ME PROCESS THE INFO BELOW THAT I COPIED AND PASTED

    IS THIS TRUE?

    ProudUSAGirl
    The ongoing COVID-19 nonsense here in the United States exists solely and exclusively because our governments have failed to use the correct treatment. They used so-called “vaccines” when Japan has just proven, in less than ONE MONTH, that Ivermectin can wipe out the disease. IVM was awarded the Nobel prize for medicine in 2015. One of the 3 most important drugs in human history: Aspirin, Penicillin, and Ivermectin. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! health/p0l/org (Looks like I can’t post links, replace / with .)

    IS THIS TRUE?
    Todd Nelson

    India just cured its entire population in 5 weeks using Ivermectin at $1.88 per cure. Now, it is like the country never existed. The mainstream , owned by big Pharma, will not say a word about the country so Pfizer’s money stream will not slow down.

    IS THIS TRUE?

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    This is a real serious problem….vaccinated people have Covid and don’t know it…and people who have underlying conditions.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/fully-vaccinated-air-passenger-infected-with-covid-dies-mid-flight/ar-AAQeskc?ocid=msedgntp


  26. John;
    I don’t know if this paper has been ventilated on BU before but, FWIW, here’s a quite extensive paper that discusses the possibility / probability of spread of Covid-19 in water.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7528884/

    GP;
    Re. Ivermectin totally wiping out Covid-19 in 5 weeks or less in India and Japan. It sounds like fake news to me except that MercK? has been reported as patenting a new very effective drug based on Ivermectin and even suggesting that they were willing to share some trade secrets with poor countries to assist in the global fight against Covid-19. I wonder what is up their sleeves. Do you have any recent news or comments on the new Merck anti-Covid medicine?


  27. NEW STUDY BY A MAYO CLINIC DOCTOR REVEALS THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE J&J INJECTION FACE MORE THAN THREE TIMES HIGHER RISK OF BLOOD CLOTS IN THE BRAIN…
    A new study lead by a Mayo Clinic doctor suggests that individuals who were injected with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are 3.5 times more likely to get Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis, a potentially fatal blood clot in the brain.

    According to the study, individuals who were injected with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 shot are 3.5 times more likely to get a Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis (CVST), a potentially fatal blood clot in the brain, when compared to the pre-pandemic general population

    WebMD explains that CVST “is a type of rare blood clot that forms in the venous sinuses in your brain” that “can block the blood in your brain from draining out toward your heart” causing “a type of stroke” that “stems from internal bleeding.” The resource explains that “CVST can be life-threatening” and warns readers, “You’ll need immediate medical attention.”

    The study was lead by Dr. Aneel A. Ashrani, a medical doctor and researcher at the Mayo Clinic’s Department of Internal Medicine. The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health. It was published in The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), a peer-reviewed medical journal. Despite the increased risk, researchers insist the “absolute CVST risk was still low.”

    The Mayo Clinic researchers also found that women between the ages of 30 and 64 were at the highest risk of the potentially life threatening blood clots.While the Johnson & Johnson injection only accounts for a reported 4% of the reported 400 million people who’ve been injected with COVID-19 vaccines, many individuals chose to get injected with their shot because it only required a single dose to be considered “fully vaccinated.” This is no longer true, as booster shots for both the Johnson & Johnson and Moderna vaccines have now been approved.

    Of note, the researchers reference reports made to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) when presenting its findings:

    As of May 7, 2021, 8 727 851 Ad26.COV2.S vaccine doses had been administered in the US; 46 potential CVST events occurring within 92 days after Ad26.COV2.S vaccination were reported to VAERS. Eight events were excluded because they were potentially duplicate reports (4) or were not objectively diagnosed (4). Twenty-seven of 38 objectively diagnosed cases of CVST after Ad26.COV2.S vaccination (71.1%) occurred in female individuals. The median patient age was 45 years (range, 19-75 years). The median time from vaccination to CVST was 9 days (IQR, 6-13 days; range, 1-51 days); 31 of 38 cases of CVST (81.6%) occurred within 15 days after vaccination, and 36 (94.7%) occurred within 30 days

    CVST was one of the vaccine reactions listed in the letter written by Dr. Patricia Lee, M.D., an ICU doctor based in California, who wrote to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) claiming she has observed more vaccine injuries from the controversial COVID-19 vaccines than she has in the last 20 years working as a doctor.

    In the letter, she described observing “transverse myelitis, resulting in quadriplegia, pneumocystis pneumonia, multi-system organ failure, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, postpartum hemorrhagic shock and septic shock, and disseminated CMV and CMV viremia.”

    “I can no longer silently accept the serious harm being caused by the Covid-19 vaccines,” Dr. Lee concluded. “It is my sincere hope that the reaction to this letter will not be to focus on me, but rather to focus on addressing the serious safety issues with these products that, without doubt, you have either missed or are choosing to ignore.”


  28. lyallsmallNovember 2, 2021 10:00 PM

    John;
    I don’t know if this paper has been ventilated on BU before but, FWIW, here’s a quite extensive paper that discusses the possibility / probability of spread of Covid-19 in water.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7528884/

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Put that up a while back.

    It’s a year old now.


  29. JohnFebruary 23, 2021 1:10 AM

    This is an interesting paper.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7528884/

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    JohnFebruary 23, 2021 1:12 AM

    Abstract
    The presence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in water and wastewater has recently been reported. According to the updated literature, the stools and masks of the patients diagnosed with coronavirus disease (COVID-19) were considered as the primary route of coronavirus transmission into water and wastewater. Most coronavirus types which attack human (possible for SARS-CoV-2) are often inactivated rapidly in water (i.e., the survival of human coronavirus 229E in water being 7 day at 23 °C). However, the survival period of coronavirus in water environments strongly depends on temperature, property of water, concentration of suspended solids and organic matter, solution pH, and dose of disinfectant used. The World Health Organization has stated that the current disinfection process of drinking water could effectively inactivate most of the bacterial and viral communities present in water, especially SARS-CoV-2 (more sensitive to disinfectant like free chlorine). A recent study confirmed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA was detected in inflow wastewater (but not detected in outflow one). Although the existence of SARS-CoV-2 in water influents has been confirmed, an important question is whether it can survive or infect after the disinfection process of drinking water. To date, only one study confirmed that the infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 in water for people was null based on the absence of cytopathic effect (CPE) in infectivity tests. Therefore, further studies should focus on the survival of SARS-CoV-2 in water and wastewater under different operational conditions (i.e., temperature and water matrix) and whether the transmission from COVID-19-contaminated water to human is an emerging concern. Although paper-based devices have been suggested for detecting the traces of SARS-CoV-2 in water, the protocols and appropriate devices should be developed soon. Wastewater and sewage workers should follow the procedures for safety precaution against SARS-CoV-2 exposure.


  30. What’s new now is the empirical evidence of the link between floods (water) and the spread of the virus in most countries.

    Brazil, Iran, Barbados, Grenada, UK, Russia etc etc etc.

    Pretty clear the virus survives for a while in water and can be spread by this means.


  31. It cannot be refuted that there is usually a surge in cases in countries that experience floods.

    We could argue over cause and effect but suspect any reasonable person would have to conclude that such an argument would be splitting hairs.

    I certainly would not waste my time so arguing just looking for the empirical evidence.

    There is a surge or there is not a surge, that’s all that needs to be determined.

    The beauty in approaching the problem in such a top down fashion is that clear conclusions can be drawn rather quickly and courses of action suggested.

    No extensive lab studies of the virus, antibodies, T Cells etc etc need to be done.

    Simple, looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck …. its a duck logic!!

    Also known as common sense.





  32. WILL THE BU MORONS NOW APOLIGIZE TO JOHN FOR HIS INTUITION AND STEADFAST PRONOUNCEMENTS IN ATTEMPTING TO EMPLOY THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IN HID VIEW THAT THE CORONAVIRUS CAN BE SPREAD BY WATER?
    I AM SURE THAT YOU WONT……..BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO

    WILL MUCKLEY AND HER GOONS NOW INSTRUCT THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PERFORM THE DUTIES THAT THEY USED TO DO EACH WEEK IN DAYS OF YORE NOW THAT THEY HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM ABROAD THAT JOHN COULD BE RIGHT?

    MR SMALL
    RE MercK? has been reported as patenting a new very effective drug based on Ivermectin and even suggesting that they were willing to share some trade secrets with poor countries to assist in the global fight against Covid-19. I wonder what is up their sleeves. Do you have any recent news or comments on the new Merck anti-Covid medicine?

    I AM UNWILLING TO COMMENT ON NEW MEDICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HURREDLY PREPARED ESPECIALLY WHEN I DO NOT KNOW
    1- THEIR MECHANISM OF ACTION
    2- THEIR ADVERSE EFFECT PROFILE
    3– THEIR THERAPEUTIC INDEX


  33. John;
    You said above “What’s new now is the empirical evidence of the link between floods (water) and the spread of the virus in most countries. Brazil, Iran, Barbados, Grenada, UK, Russia etc etc etc.”

    Where is that empirical evidence? What is that empirical evidence?


  34. @🐇/🐰
    You are months behind. It was already pointed out that CoViD could be present in sewage and waste water.

    The paper that you cite supports the position that it is not present in drinking water. Please Google the following
    Sewage
    Waste water
    Sea water
    Drinking water
    They may all be watery but they are not the same thing.

    I like how you etch some hieroglyphics on a covid graph and then talk about flooding or ignore flooding that does not support your claim.

    Exiting the 🐇 hole.
    Have a great day


  35. 436 new coronavirus (COVID-19) cases, Monday, November 1.

    2 265 tests.”

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    @Hants further down in de doo doo we are going. That is the highest single day cases so far in Barbados


  37. Worldometer data says October 26th raw daily cases were 445.


  38. THIS IS FOR PROFFESSOR OF PHARMACOLOGY JACKASS SARGEANT AND OTHER BU PHARMCOLOGY AND PUBLIC HEALTH ILLITERATES

    WHEN ONE DOCTOR PRESCRIBED IVERMECTIN, CASES PLUMMETED LIKE A STONE!
    October 30, 2021 kristel
    When we all thought that we need a super medication against COVID, what this country did just dismantle the pandemic worry about. The Indonesian Food and Drug Monitoring Agency or BPOM has granted the Emergency Use Authorization for anti-parasitic drug ivermectin on July 15, 2021, as the therapeutic drug to support the Covid-19 treatment.

    The country was at its worst-case scenario epidemic according to its officials as the medical authorities were desperate to control the outbreak and Indonesia has 277 million people and is considered to be the world’s fourth most populous country.

    The Strait Times reported:

    The Indonesian government on Thursday (July 15) began distributing free medicine and vitamins to self-isolating Covid-19 patients in high-risk areas as the highly transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus continued to rip through the country, emptying pharmacy shelves. Each package will have seven days worth of therapeutic Covid-19 drugs and vitamins and will be given to asymptomatic patients as well as those with mild to moderate symptoms including fever and dry cough. The medication for the latter group will require consultation with a doctor and a prescription.

    Medical facilities are stretched thin, and demand for oxygen and medication has also soared. As scores of people are isolating themselves at home and self-medicating, prices of drugs have shot up in pharmacies and online. The health ministry has since moved to cap the prices of drugs such as favipiravir, remdesivir, and ivermectin.

    On the other hand, Health Feedback has said:

    Clinical trials didn’t show a clear benefit of ivermectin in reducing COVID-19 severity, hospitalization rate, or mortality. Epidemiological evidence also doesn’t indicate that ivermectin helped curb the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in Indonesia or other countries. However, these countries implemented other measures that have proven effective in limiting the spread of the virus, including vaccination and restrictions, which likely contributed to the decline in COVID-19 cases.

    Simply because two events coincide in time doesn’t necessarily mean that one caused the other. Firstly, ivermectin endorsement doesn’t tell us whether the Indonesian population used ivermectin more than populations in other countries.

    Secondly, even if they use of ivermectin did increase following the recommendation, we still can’t assess whether the drop in COVID-19 cases in Indonesia was due to the use of ivermectin or to other factors. Epidemiological data from countries that recommended ivermectin, such as India and Peru, doesn’t indicate that promoting the drug reduced the spread of the disease or its death toll. Both countries experienced multiple COVID-19 waves with high mortality throughout 2020 and 2021, and both withdrew ivermectin recommendations in 2021.

    Wait, so we can’t use Ivermectin because “We don’t have enough data,”

    But..

    “Let’s vaccinate children to see how safe the vaccine is because we don’t have enough data.”

    Did I understand that correctly?

    — Dr. Doug Corrigan (@ScienceWDrDoug) October 28, 2021

    It ws initially developed for human use, more than four decades ago. You wouldnt know that because you consume anything corporate media feeds you as the truth. Sad

    — Trevor Kotze (@blackjoe929) October 17, 2021

    Ironic, isn’t it?

    Here is the current number of COVID cases in Namibia:

    Lastly, BBC has reported:

    “In this time of crisis, advanced countries need to do more in helping poor countries get vaccines so that we can overcome this pandemic together.”

    Mr. Widodo’s comments come as Indonesia attempts to recover from the ravages of the pandemic.

    The COVID situation has improved since then, with both deaths and case numbers falling, according to government data.

    The vaccination drive has also picked up. According to the latest data from the World Bank, Indonesia has given more than 100 million doses of vaccines in the country, with almost 30% of the population fully vaccinated – no easy feat in a huge archipelago.

    But while urban areas like Jakarta are now seeing high levels of vaccination rates, rural areas are harder to get to.WHEN Jakarta are now seeing high levels of vaccination rates, rural areas are harder to get to.


  39. “WILL THE BU MORONS NOW APOLIGIZE TO JOHN FOR HIS INTUITION AND STEADFAST PRONOUNCEMENTS IN ATTEMPTING TO EMPLOY THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD IN HID VIEW THAT THE CORONAVIRUS CAN BE SPREAD BY WATER?”

    John is all over the place making wild leaps of faith and logic to state his conclusion which is his starting point

    But, Covid is not spread by water

    water stagnates and can become contaminated and needs to be purified
    more water dilutes and purifies contents such as with floods

    check out
    Homeopathy is a complementary or alternative medicine. … diluted many times in water until there’s none, or almost none, of the original substance left used as treatments


  40. WHY IS THEO – A MAN WHO LOVES A LAUGH NOT LAFFING AT GOOD JOKES?
    I LAFFING THOUGH
    WHY HAVE DPD ET AL GONE AWOL IN MATTERS OF US POLITICS?
    HAVE A LFF THOUGH
    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/11/03/bprs-top-political-cartoons-of-the-day-hey-losers-1157582/?utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_campaign=bizpac


  41. Watch the John Snow videos and you will see how truth of the following statements.

    Sewage, Waste water ,Drinking water are all depending on the treatment potentially the same!!

    You would never know the difference if presented with a glass of each!!

    Seawater will also look the same however it will taste different from the other three.

    Drinking water is often sewage or wastewater but with low concentrations of contaminants.

    In Barbados, zoning provides the major treatment for 80% of the water followed by chlorination.


  42. John has low prana and low energy and his thoughts are all over the place with nonsense

    others have high prana high energy and will think fewer thoughts which are correct

    GP sucks up to like minded fools like a sycophantic tool and blindly believes any right wing conspiracy crap religiously

    others do not suffer fools gladly as they are a waste of space and time


  43. Try this experiment.

    At what stage would you drink the water?


  44. Revealed: Fauci Went Behind Trump’s Back Befriending Wuhan
    Written By BlabberBuzz | Wednesday, 03 November 2021 10:50

    In a new book coming out this week, Peter Navarro announced that Dr. Anthony Fauci damaged the U.S. and former President Donald Trump more than “the Bat Lady of Wuhan.”

    The former Trump Economic Adviser refers to Shi Zhengli, a Chinese virologist who studies SARS coronaviruses arising from bats at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where COVID-19 is believed to be to have initially leaked. In the book, the ex-Trump aide holds Fauci accountable for “everything from the Wuhan lab gain-of-function catastrophe and suppression of low-cost therapeutics such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin to the political, partisan and deadly delay in delivering the Trump vaccines to the American people.”

    “In Trump Time, A Journal of America’s Plague Year” will become publicly available on Tuesday. According to the New York Post, the book takes aim at Fauci, who served as a Chief Medical Adviser to both President Trump and current President Joe Biden. Fauci’s wrongdoings, according to Navarro, included not telling Trump or the coronavirus task force that he knew the lab in Wuhan was conducting gain of function research on bat coronaviruses.

    The top immunologist at the National Institutes of Health has come under fire from Republicans for allegedly lying about his agency funding this research at the lab in China.Fauci, Navarro writes, “went behind the back of the Trump White House in 2017 to lift the ban on dangerous ‘gain-of-function experiments.” “It was Fauci’s agency,” he goes on, “that helped fund and orchestrate such… experiments at a bioweapons lab in Wuhan, China, where the pandemic almost certainly originated. And it was Fauci who, as we now know from a trove of emails, was being told as early as January 31, 2020, that the virus was likely engineered.”

    Navarro further announced in his book that Fauci was vehemently against restricting travel from China at the onset of the pandemic when President Trump and some of his aides recommended it before the virus hit the U.S.
    The Economic Adviser maintained that throughout a Situation Room meeting on January 27, 2020, the doctor stated: “In my experience, travel restrictions don’t work.”

    Fauci’s harsh and repeated critic is Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul, an ophthalmologist by trade before becoming a Senator. Paul has often gotten into heated and public arguments with Fauci over the gain of function research and whether the U.S. funded this type of project in Wuhan. This eventually led to the lab leak that caused the coronavirus pandemic.
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    I TOLD ALLYUH FROM THE BEGINNING THAT DR FALSEY WAS A DEVIL AND A LIAR AND A DEVIL

    THE BLOG OWNER RESPONDED WITH HIS LENGHTY CV THAT WENT ALL AROUND DE TOWN
    ONCE YUH COME FROM OVERSEASE BAJANS TINK THAT YUH RIGHT
    BARE MOCK SPORT IN DE RUMSHOP

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