Government Using Throne Speech to Signal Fresh Guard

The eagerly awaited second session of parliament is set to restart today from about 10AM- see Order Paper. The decision to prorogue parliament from the 8 August 2020 caught political pundits by surprise and has been the source of robust debate.

The Government has determined that it is necessary that we take fresh guard. The Parliament of Barbados will be prorogued on the 8th of August, 2020, with us resuming in a new session on the 15th of September with a new Throne Speech and with a new direction as to where we must go in order to meet these extraordinarily different circumstances from the original Throne Speech of two years ago

Prime Minister Mia Mottley

Even before the pandemic struck the global economy, Barbados had been struggling with a non performing economy. The Mottley government took an immediate decision to enter an IMF program (BERT) on winning the governbment in 2018 that included a restructure of domestic and foreign debt with the contracted services of White Oak. The big concern was carrying the risk of low foreign reserves with a junk status credit rating and a high debt to GDP load- reported in 2018 as the third highest in the world.

If was not difficult for the Barbados government to manage an economy in free fall and at the same time whip confidence in a proud people who were suffering from economic fatigue, along came COVID 19. The prime minister in her wisdom- time will tell- decided to leverage the parliamentary tools at her command “to take fresh guard”.

It would be remiss of the blogmaster if the minority view offered by the contentious Pachamama in this forum was not added to this commentary.

We have been telling this PM, here on BU and through back-channels, that this ‘reset’, so-called, is highly misconceived.

Our suggestion is that an election should be called to ‘reset’ the political-economy. Not the farcical and ritualistic contrivances as planned for sometime this week.

Her sequestration, seclusion, on the gold coast should have been unnecessary as neither she nor those beating a trail to meet with her has anything of material importance to tell her beyond pomp and pageantry.

Pachamama

We are living in an unprecedented time. We are attempting to navigate uncharted waters. The challenges confronting Barbados is not a binary problem to solve. Those who enter the debate by injecting absolutes should be viewed with suspicion.

The blogmaster urges the Prime Minster and other leaders in civil society to ignore the power of this moment at our peril. This and future generations will be affected by decisions taken today.

And in the visitation of the winds,

Who take the ruffian billows by the top,

Curling their monstrous heads and hanging them

With deafening clamour in the slippery clouds,

That, with the hurly, death itself awakes?

Canst thou, O partial sleep, give thy repose

To the wet sea-boy in an hour so rude,

And in the calmest and most stillest night,

With all appliances and means to boot,

Deny it to a king? Then happy low, lie down!

Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.

Shakespeare’s Henry IV. Part II, 1597

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407 comments

  • @John A

    Have no problem with your stealy focus on reallocation of resources to plant the seeds for a new economy. None at all.

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  • When colonial victims have accepted this is the still existing system which was created just for you, in which you were BRED INTO for centuries, until you confront this REALITY…it’s the only way you will be able to move forward AND STOP ACCEPTING MORE OF THE SAME from the black faces in the parliament.

    https://scontent.fbgi3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119675919_10217820242683252_4257595726330658241_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=9jpUsF_EXZAAX9pyRzO&_nc_ht=scontent.fbgi3-1.fna&oh=799acfa98048bc0043632ec5ade4b682&oe=5F87A711

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  • The mention of Barbados becoming a Republic was a strategic plan to put barbados name on the world stage giving barbados media recognition and attention
    Also with a hope that the welcome stamp idea would be rehash and talk about on the international landscape
    As OSA once reminded all and sundry
    Mia ideas and plans are founded on gimmicks
    This republic noises would soon be diminished as COVID continues its stampede over small islands regardless of who ever is im charge

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  • Waru

    Thanks for your continued critical interest in issues concerning the geo-political primacy of Georgetown in Caribbean affairs.

    Our friends in Washington have informed us that the main henchman of Adolf Hitler, the christian fascist Pompeo, will arrive in Georgetown next week.

    We estimate that the fascist christian regime in Washington will be conveying messages from Adolf Hitler, himself, relating to another possible military aggression against Venezuela. Guyana to be another launching pad in that scenario.

    As we watch this we wait to see what kind of an October surprise is to be, in the offing, to extend Hitler”s rule over the dying imperium.

    You, Waru, are singular in your firm determination to defend Black prople where ever we are.

    We are now left to wonder what the childish regional cunt×oles who made these war scenarios more possible are thinking today.

    Hoping that we are wrong. No war on Venezuela!

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  • “We are now left to wonder what the childish regional cunt×oles who made these war scenarios more possible are thinking today.”

    America is just being America, we all know their interests come first, nothing new…

    …..the danger to the African populations in the region, particularly in Barbados and even on the Continent is your above mentioned..

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  • In politricks there can be only ONE reason for ANY level of change, whether minor or massive, and that is for SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE to get rich. Once upon a time we had statesmen who at least tried at Federation and put things like CARICOM and CSME in place for the good of all of us, these days we just have a Caribbean – may, global – nest of liars and thieves who want ONLY to fatten their own wallets at the expense of the taxpayer.

    The Multilateral Air Services Agreement was signed in 1998, then again in 2018, and CARICOM is STILL waiting for one more country to “deposit their Articles” to make it binding. Really? 22 years later we are STILL waiting for a CARICOM decision to be binding?? What do our “leaders” really do all day and night?

    What benefit will Republic bring? Is Trinidad’s method of government that much BETTER than ours? And look at the USA, a Republic about to experience Civil War – again – for the second time in 300 years.

    There will be Red Men bout hey who will castigate me, but I look at Queen Mia two years on and see NO PROGRESS, none at all. In fact, the bureaucracy the average Bajan has to suffer daily has increased. The Queen of Amor works studiously instead on the MOST important stuff – gay marriage, homosexuality and legalisation of ganja.

    My Dad died in 2016 – more than 4 years ago. We are still waiting for judge in charge to even look at the probate. Is that right? Legal fees for going on five years while lawyers and judges sit around scratching their asses? When will a decision be made? Will that be when the rest of the family are all dead and gone too?

    If THIS is the way the BLP operate, then bring back the useless teifing DLP. Then as a country we can officially go 100% bankrupt – like LIAT – at the hands of politrickians, finally get it over with, and become a British Overseas Territory again like the Cayman Islands. And if you disagree, don’t EVER let me hear you proudly say that Barbados is known as “Little England”.

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  • “What benefit will Republic bring? Is Trinidad’s method of government that much BETTER than ours? And look at the USA, a Republic about to experience Civil War – again – for the second time in 300 years”

    that’s the point I have been pushing for so long….republic mean shit…IF YA KEEP THE SAME COLONIAL SYSTEM of RACISM, hatred for African people, oppression, exploitation and STEALING FROM THE BLACK POPULATIONS alive and well….you can GO NOWHERE….with that corrupt colonial construct left intact, how many times must we tell “the childish regional cunt×oles” the system must FIRST BE REMOVED, ERASED, ERADICATED…then and only then will they have truly UNSHACKLED from UK…republic my ass…it means absolutely nothing…

    Guyana, Dominica and Trinidad are republics for how long and NOTHING HAS CHANGED…they still have to JUMP when told to by their commonwealth “partner” UK and the colonial destruction remains firmly INTACT.. …the racism, corruption and disenfranchisement against the African descended have GOTTEN WORSE…over the decades…

    Mia feels she got everyone fooled, but we must thank her for the opportunity to EXPOSE ALL OF THAT ON FACEBOOK for the African populations to see and TALK ABOUT…discussions are good and informative…

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  • @bimjim

    Going Republic is a journey to unshakable the mind from a colonial past. The benefit cannot be measured in accounting terms, it will take time to bear fruit.

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  • “We are still waiting for judge in charge to even look at the probate. Is that right?”

    if there is property to steal a whole estate or land…ya dog dead…

    When Black people on the island ACCEPT that they are Africans and not bajans or British or some other bullshit colonial construct, then they will see everything with a higher level and better SENSE OF CLARITY….that also extends to the other Caribbean islands and in the wider Diaspora…even as descendants indigenous Africans who travelled around their earth for thousands of years and settled EVERYWHERE…you are STILL AFRICAN.

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  • Guyana, Dominica and Trinidad are republics for how long and NOTHING HAS CHANGED…they still have to JUMP when told to by their commonwealth “partner” UK and the colonial destruction remains firmly INTACT.. …the racism, corruption and disenfranchisement against the African descended have GOTTEN WORSE…over the decades…..and now there is a RAGING race war in Guyana, thanks to and compliments of “childish regional cunt×oles”

    thanks Pacha, I was looking for an apt description all morning.

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  • @bimjim
    ‘to bear fruit’, seemingly refers to Bananas. Hence to be known formally as BRB. It’s all good.

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  • Look at the contradiction of Republicanism in regard to Trinidad. We now have the CCJ, yet this proud Republic still has the Privy Council as its final court of appeal.

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  • BAJESeptember 16, 2020 3:00 AM Utter rubbish and writing it in capitals does not give it any more credence.

    Everyone knows that post DLP, the economy was running fumes and in the ICU. While you are clearly anti BLP/MIA (even though you pretend not), nothing you say makes sense. You provided no substance, merely rhetoric.

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  • no David
    The republic discourse is merely a public relations gambit to deflect from the catastrophic failures, past future.

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  • I am very pleased that our government is eager to take up many of my suggestions. For example, the narrative of the financial illiterates. Very good.

    That is why Tron is now providing the free blueprint for the new constitution, based on the experience in Turkey and Russia.

    Article 1: Barbados is a Presidential Republic. The President is sovereign of the republic. The Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre is the seat of the President.

    Article 2: The offices of Prime Minister and Senate are abolished.

    Article 3: The people shall elect the President on 1 October 2021 for life. Any woman over 40 years of age with a degree from an elite university in USA or UK may be elected President.

    Article 4: The President has the right to veto all laws. She may dissolve Parliament at her own discretion. Elections must then be held after 12 months. In the meantime, the President enacts laws instead of Parliament.

    Article 5: The President appoints all national heroes, cabinet ministers, judges, civil servants, pastors and all other officials at her own discretion.

    Article 6: The President has the right to issue emergency decrees to protect the people and the state. Parliament may override emergency decrees only by a 3/4 majority.

    Article 7: There shall be no presidential indictment.

    Article 8: Defamation and insulting the President shall be punishable by a term of imprisonment of at least one year. The President may, at her discretion, reduce the prison sentence to the penalty of deportation as ambassador for life to the USA, South America or Africa.

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  • It is heartening to see also the implementation of a digital post office bank. This means that the small folk can tell the commercial banks to take a hike. To the average worker, their usefulness is limited in today’s climate and their approach.

    One of the big challenges in Barbados and indeed in any country, is to rid the average person of the excessive mortgage yolk. This is just another form of slavery mechanism really, because it keeps the citizens in a constant position of subservience trying to pay back a loan that requires them to stay in jobs that offer no chance of development nor entrepreneurship.

    In my opinion, the worldwide mortgage market is going to collapse. If only, because people can no longer afford to take mortgages. Just as much, because with the pandemic, more will realise the importance of living, rather than indebt themselves in such a way as to be unable to do anything else in life.

    Monetary slavery.

    And a bit of advice to the youngsters reading this. Apart from prior advice of studying and getting valuable skillsets to enable movement of country, if you desire, when you buy property, buy either investment property, such as apartments, or if your own, no larger than you need, with the smallest loan possible. Get a loan that allows early payback with no penalty and kill that loan as fast as you reasonably can.

    Large houses with big mortgages are for those who can really afford it or fools.

    What is needed is clever architects who can design two and three bedroom units, with a lot of smart space i.e. space used well to ensure best utilisation for multiple uses. Keep costs down but provide all amenities and comforts. And do not allow prices to be artificially driven up by unscrupulous people.

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  • Addendum:

    Of course, General Bussa must be second in line after Goddess Bim as a national hero.

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  • “Going Republic is a journey to unshakable the mind from a colonial past. The benefit cannot be measured in accounting terms, it will take time to bear fruit.”

    Care to explain why that has not worked in islands that have been republic for decades? Barbados is even worse off with slave laws firmly embedded in statute books and the slave codes still rigidly practiced on the populi.

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 16, 2020 10:10 AM Look at the contradiction of Republicanism in regard to Trinidad. We now have the CCJ, yet this proud Republic still has the Privy Council as its final court of appeal.

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    What that speaks to is moreso the mistrust and lack of confidence that Trinidad has in its neighbours. But, it has ever been thus. Is there really a future of Caricom? Maybe Puerto Rico, ostracised by the current administration, can join Caricom, also Haiti Make it a truly Caribbean thing.

    Watch how fast Guyana, with its soon to be oil riches and its politicians already hinting at telling other Caribbean folk to get lost, will soon forget that Caricom exists.

    Remember One from Eleven leaves none ? The Federation and Caricom were structures founded on sound moral and economic theory, but fell down on political theory, or rather one aspect of it, the insularity and greed of each country or its set of politicians.

    However, never before has the Caribbean needed such a structure than now, when the large nations have either forgotten that these islands exist, do not care, or are actively going after them re taxes etc.

    A horde can do wonders against a giant, unfortunately, when the horde is effectively divided-and-ruled, not so much.

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  • @ David Bu

    Can you describe the process by which Republicanism would relieve us of the vestiges of the colonial past. In what ways does it benefit us the citizens?

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  • It was nice hearing the loud proposals on CARICOM in the Queen’s Speech – or was I imagining that?

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  • WURA-War-on-USeptember 16, 2020 10:36 AM

    Trinidad should indeed be much better off. However, outright theft and corruption has been its achilles heel. The public and private sector crooks ruined Trinidad. From Eric Williams, to O’Halloran, all a dem tief too bad. That is only two.

    Would be interesting for some enterprising journalist to do a search and investigation to find out how many Caribbean (former Caribbean) multi-millionaires and billionaires exist. That would require investigating bank accounts across the world.

    For sure, many do exist. Maybe even some Barbadian ones.

    So maybe that was the problem all along, whether a colonial remnant or a republic. Lack of transparency and accountability.

    The old pirates had a code, a rather brutal one, but effective. Maybe we should have taken that along with us, instead of British criminal law?

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  • WARU — ha you mentioned Guyana. Well, Guyana was sabotaged early on, by the British secret service installation of Burnham instead of Jagan, because it was a certainty that Jagan would win and a certainty that he was more openminded politically.

    So, when yuh train a guarddog, watch it dont bite yuh. Which is exactly what Burnham did. But the thing is, all of those years in the wilderness, actually brought long term fruit for Guyana, because much of its resources were left intact, now to be reaped.

    Albeit, it is now in the hands of the current group to ensure that Guyanese of all creeds and social status benefit, but will they? Or will pirate code have to be instituted?

    The thing is, no country can effectively flourish when it is hounded out of international relations and trade, via political ostracism or sanctions. Venezuela is one example. People rant about how socialism does not work, look Venezuela, but conveniently leave out that their international trade has been hamstrung by sanctions etc.

    Who dog like, he lick.

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  • @ Crusoe

    One backstop with being a Monarchy is that the newspaper and parliament in the ‘home’ nation would keep an eye out for any corruption. They will only do that now if UK firms or individuals are involved.

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  • Under the headline: Barbados to relinquish sovereign ties in a year”, Barbados Today went on to tell its readers in part “….Speaking before the packed Frangipani Room, Dame Sandra said the time had come for Barbados to become self-governing.

    She revealed that the move to transition from a parliamentary constitutional monarchy under a hierarchy monarchy, to a Republic, would be realized before the island celebrated its 55th anniversary of independence on November 30, 2021.” (Quote)

    How can such illiteracy be allowed to work in a newspaper office? How can such nonsense get pass a sub-editor, an editor and proof readers?
    It is this mass ignorance about the constitutional status of Barbados that this trickster of a president is riding on. Someone should tell BT that Barbados is a sovereign nation and has been since November 1966.
    Someone should tell them that Barbados has been self-governing since that date, the most import in our history. The second paragraph is totally meaningless.

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  • Marijuana – One thing that is peculiar. Why remove the charge for possession for half an ounce of marijuana, yet still have it as unlawful and fine for it.

    Absurdity. Just get is off the statute books and move on with life. Surely there are better things to do than chase casual users. A $200 fine is still substantial to the average person. That is a week’s groceries for some, three weeks for others.

    Again, also address the use for religious purposes by the Rastafari community. More nonsense.

    Learn to focus on the important things, not petty.

    Really, the referendum on the same sex union is garbage. Who cares? I do not. You want to love with someone, go and do it. I do not care in the least. All of the furor against same sex relations is much ado or nothing. Those in positions of opposition should spend time on more important matters.

    I care about shelter, food, healthcare and work for the average person and ensuring the same for the vulnerable.

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 16, 2020 11:03 AM

    Fair point. Fluff. As I noted to David earlier, it is essential from another viewpoint, the psychological one, not management nor economic.

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 16, 2020 10:55 AM @ Crusoe One backstop with being a Monarchy is that the newspaper and parliament in the ‘home’ nation would keep an eye out for any corruption. They will only do that now if UK firms or individuals are involved.

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    Sort of? I wonder if it has worked thus far? I guess we will find out shortly, if it gets worse.

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  • Hal AustinSeptember 16, 2020 10:45 AM It was nice hearing the loud proposals on CARICOM in the Queen’s Speech – or was I imagining that?

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    Would have to see it in full, there are references, but I am not so sure that there are more commitments re the long term relationship. But any relationship requires the input of all. That is the issue. As you would know, hard enough even getting a sports club to work happily together.

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  • Will an official record be kept of people who have been fined for small amounts of marijuana? If so, who will keep these records? How will payments be made?In cash to the apprehending police officer, by cheque or debit or credit card? Will there be a time span within which the fixed penalty must be paid, or must it be paid on the spot?

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  • Thank you, David. That is the speech I remember. Some people aren’t good at remembering speeches. They need to read.

    Unlike some I was not expecting any magic formula. The journey will be long and will depend on the implementation of the policies. Some people want details. The THONE SPEECH is is a broad policy statement. Hal thought the detail of the sleep apnea clinic was too much. Generally speaking, he could be right.

    The details should come later at a more appropriate time.

    But…if one reads the speech one cannot say it addresses nothing.

    What we have to watch for is the actions after the speech.

    And the devil that always lurks in the details.

    P.S. Didn’t I hear something about the court system as well.

    P.P.S. Mia chose to land midway between the public position and the position of gays like Wickham. Some change needs to be gradual to allow the public to adjust but some change MUST be made regardless of prevailing public opinion to move the public in the right direction.

    The civil union will afford gays the rights and benefits that are really important.

    There is nothing stopping anybody from having a wedding ceremony performed by a willing official. Yet there is nothing compelling an unwilling official to perform such a ceremony. I don’t know what Peter Wickham is on about. I don’t know what some ministers are on about. I don’t know what the public is on about. This is not a theocracy. Bother about whom you marry and sleep with! That is a better use of your time. Let others live their lives as long as they are not interfering with yours!

    If God has a problem with it He is quite capable of dealing with it.

    But…. as usual the only man that has a point is Caswell re the law against sodomy, something I personally do not like but think people should be able decide on for themselves. The law will need to be changed or it will be incompatible with what we KNOW is the sexual expression that will occur in most male same sex civil unions.

    I just assumed it would be changed. Let’s hope I am not the ass!

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  • Over the years and with experience I have found that humans don’t analyse events properly and thoroughly. They come up with excuses and not the proper aetiolgy for why events occur. Thus they solve for the wrong problems or don’t learn from past events. Hence they make the same mistake over and over- a recurring loop so to speak.

    Take for example the so called lost decade between 2008 and 2018 where is often bruited about without proper analysis that Bim lost its way. Because that was the period that Bim’s economy plunged in line with the economies of most countries- a period roughly between 2008-2016 known as the great recession, a PM who was not a great communicator when not on the campaign trail, and where the populace believe that Govt MPs got rich beyond the salaries of their offices.

    However, if the period prior to this is examined, you would find that on the face of it the economy was travelling at warp speed in line with but lagging the tremendous economic growth that visited the rest of the world, we had an effervescent PM perhaps because of the economy and he enjoyed great political freedom and gravitas, and MPs got rich over night with little push back from the citizens as everyone was in an economic state of euphoria. this for the most part was the period between 1994-2008. there were many scandals from the GEMs project to Greenland to Hardwood to the Kensington Oval redevelopment to the Barrack Building to Edutech not necessarily in that order and that is only a few. what really marked that period for me was there was no attempt at building a sustainable black economy. Government capital projects were mostly if not all routed towards the traditional money class bajans who do not reflect the racial make up of most bajans.

    I have always contended that that period signalled the no return point for Bim. The desecration of the west coast, the sell off of Govt lands, the borrow and spend policies by Govt which were followed by the borrow and spend habit of the population at large, the rise of land prices and other prices with no comparable rise in salaries, the stupid mantra of land is only an asset and the push to make Bim a first world country built on credit and piss poor laws and enforcement thereof, were a milieu for disaster.

    It was a slow burning crisis that just needed a catalyst to set events in motion as BA Turner theorised in his 1978 seminal work called Man-made Disaster as distinguished from natural disasters although it is arguable whether there is a difference. He posited that all disasters have an incubation period where latent pathogens go unnoticed or if noticed excuses are created, erroneous analysis made, or cultural habits prevent proper fixes

    All the signs were there of system failure- huge national and personal debt, corrupt politicians, a population spending beyond its means, weak legal infrastructure, dilapidated island wide physical infrastructure, a failing unreformed civil service, an uncaring and expectant public, an unchecked criminal underbelly, and a greedy private sector.

    Then entered a deep recession as I mentioned above (2008-16) and the flaccid DLP regime after Thompson. It failed to arrest the slide if it could have. It is my contention that that would have called for a PM and cabinet with huge cajones to effect systemic changes that were needed and long overdue, an understanding civil service and a pliable private sector and public. None of that was present and none of that could have been, given the heady days of the previous years and the expectations that those days would continue and hence the deep disappointment that they didn’t.

    That the DLP didn’t recognize this pending disaster or if it did, did nothing, is what Turner (1976) called rigidity in organisations, inability to handle multiple issues, ignoring warning signs, and a tendency to minimise problems that often negatively impact disaster mitigation. And so the DLP was blamed for the drastic economic slide of Barbados and was soundly embarrassed at the polls. It did not win a seat and won 1 or 2 constituency voting boxes.

    Returning to Normalcy
    The present Govt headed by MAM labelled that period the lost decade and every ill that Bim ever suffered was located there. No attempt was made to differentiate the period of PM Thompson from the period of PM Stuart and none was made to examine whether they inherited any problems from the previous administration. Perhaps because some of the new MPs were in Cabinet in the 1994-2008 period, it was enough to give Bajans a place to direct their anger at the failings of the DLP. As Drubek (1994) contends, the politics around accountability substitute systemic failures for individual guilt. And as Boin (2005) points out, even when this is known, leaders spin this information to assign blame away from them-selves.

    From deliberately defaulting on the debt repayment, to BERT, to BOSS, to BEST and the rest, MAM and the BLP have sought to return to normalcy, if normalcy can be defined as the period between 1994-2008. They have been diverted partially but not entirely by; COVID, legal missteps (ACOP bungling and the failure to pass Anti Corruption law in the Senate), and policy issues (Ministry of Education numerous faux pas).

    That leads into the question of capability to solve problems. Capability in government often relates to political leaders and government department possessing the technical and financial, organizational and policy wherewithal to respond to the matters at hand (Cigler, 2007). Effective response may be hampered by lack of delegation, spotty decision-making and inadequate communication (Paton and Jackson, 2002). Furthermore, apathy (political and public) to pending problems, budgetary restraints and organizational dysfunction militate against disaster planning and response (Drabek et al., 1981). It is a matter of argumentation whether such issues depict the present BLP under MAM

    To the very present
    So here we are after a Throne Speech that inter alia, sees BIM becoming a Republic next year, civil unions for gay couples, and a host of financial manoeuverings which are yet to be digested fully by the public. Suffice it to say the prospect of civil unions an easier sell than gay marriage, and becoming a Republic are the topics occupying the minds of bajans. Some ask whether this Thorne Speech hullabaloo was a reset or more hot air from a PM who loves to talk but delivers very little in terms of substance. I will state definitely I don’t see a reset. Moreover, the question that remains is, are we in a recurring loop?

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  • Maybe with the move to a Republic, there will be a change to a new National Anthem. The real one for me, one that reflects what the people should see and feel, as they sing. Not some boring as heck, hymnal. Not that hymns are bad, but it is boring and humdrum. These fields and hills are our very own. Yes, they are and have been for fifty years. Focus on the people, not just the possessions.

    Mark Lord. My Country To Me. What should be the National Anthem.

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  • @Crusoe

    We have discussed the powers that come alive in the ceremonial post of Governor General in our system of government. Case in point the late Sir Paul Scoon and the role he assumed when that tragedy occurred. In this light one can loosely interpret what sovereignty means with the current arrangement.

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  • Vincent you know better.

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  • @ Crusoe

    There was nothing about CARICOM of substance. I was being facetious about the emptiness of the three-hour speech. In future we ned to limit the Queen’s Speech to a set time ie 45 minutes, but no longer than 60 mins.

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  • GreeneSeptember 16, 2020 11:22 AM

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    Super Excellent Post, Sir. DAVID, one for its own headline.

    I agree with your analysis. Note that my recent comments did refer to the prior periods inclusively, though I focused on 1999-2016. So, I am not just saying this in hindsight.

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  • Vincent,

    You asked David but I could answer that finally I could offer myself as a candidate for parliament without the threat of having to make a pledge to serve a monarch whom I have no intention of serving.

    Lol.

    What corruption do they look out for now and what do they do when they find it???? Here it is that EVERY DAY people are complaining about corruption and our injustice system. What have the British done so far?

    STEUPSE!

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  • In this light one can loosely interpret what sovereignty means with the current arrangement…(Quote)

    Lord plse forgive us our sins. And to think Barbados once had brilliant schools. Now we have a bogus politeness that means we must treat such illiteracy with courtesy.

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  • And Vincent, I would not have to endure the traumatising sight of black Bajans leaders curtseying and bowing to white British “superiors”.

    Now they meet as equals.

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  • @ David BU at 11: 30 AM and 11:30 AM

    Precisely.Without a Sir Paul Scoon and what he represented ,the outcome would have been different. There are some unspoken residuals that the undiscerning miss.

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  • “Maybe Puerto Rico, ostracised by the current administration, can join Caricom, also Haiti Make it a truly Caribbean thing.”

    Caricom is a joke, a dangerous weapon used to keep the African descended contained and trapped in the colonial construct….face it, the leaders have always been your jailers for the past 60 years..

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  • “Here it is that EVERY DAY people are complaining about corruption and our injustice system. ”

    they used the well-worn excuse…well we gave you independence….because it plays right into their agendas of the black faces destroying their own people and they don’t even have to lift a finger when the corrupt leaders are doing it all for them and for free too.

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  • David September 16, 2020 11:30 AM @CrusoeWe have discussed the powers that come alive in the ceremonial post of Governor General in our system of government. Case in point the late Sir Paul Scoon and the role he assumed when that tragedy occurred. In this light one can loosely interpret what sovereignty means with the current arrangement.

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    Of course. Moving on, I assume that Sir Richard’s parliamentary study is with the aim of recommending the architecture of the new government?

    Will be interesting and certainly will require significant thought, to ensure that adequate controls are in place, to wit, the Parliamentary process itself, powers that lie with the President, as a control rather than the Executive?

    The Trinidad model rather than the US one? I am definitely not in favour of the US one. Too much power in one person and the controls there, the Congress and Senate, can be too bloodlyminded in approach, either creating stalemate, which would be horrendous in a dysfunctional system, or being too gungho, if government won all seats. I really do not see the point of the Senate. Seriously.

    What has it done, what does it offer? If should offer improved control on significant matters, but it has thus far been a rubber stamp council.

    Powers to call elections should lie with the President, as should all significant constitutional matters be referable to both the President and the Court.

    I guess we shall see as to the outcome.

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  • But I thought we were supposed to be civil in our discourse.

    ????????????

    Signed

    A baffled, brutish beast of a Bajan trying hard to be a civilised human being like the Brits.

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  • @ Donna
    Those who take the oaths of allegiance and curtsy know what they are doing and what they are saying. There are rituals and rituals.

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  • Vincent CodringtonSeptember 16, 2020 11:41 AM @ David BU at 11: 30 AM and 11:30 AM Precisely.Without a Sir Paul Scoon and what he represented ,the outcome would have been different. There are some unspoken residuals that the undiscerning miss.

    +++++++++

    We know of those. What difference would it be if the same request for international help was made by the President (Trinidad model).

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  • PS – Get rid of all of those ridiculous robes and wigs. Tom was way ahead.

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  • “Speaking before the packed Frangipani Room, Dame Sandra said the time had come for Barbados to become self-governing.”

    so now do you see the LIES BEING EXPOSED…wuh i could swear these FRAUDS said they were self-governing from 1966.

    “The thing is, no country can effectively flourish when it is hounded out of international relations and trade, via political ostracism or sanctions. ”

    Guyana was still robbed of its resources over decades, so too was Jamaica, these things happen when you are still embedded in a colonial construct, not your own independent entity….still pretending to be English in a system not designed by them, wuh Guyana still carries UKs area code….they are none of them independent until such time when they apply to become THEIR OWN NATION…

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  • The determination of the Mia government to continue criminalizing Black people for marijuana.

    “14 grams the equivalent of a 1/2 ounce, will be a ticket-able offence, instead of being one that you can be arrested for and jailed.

    Persons caught with 14 grams or less can be given a $200 ticket that has to paid in 30 days. Being fully aware that the Throne Speech is not law and related legislation has to be drafted to support this move to “decriminalize”, what has been presented to the people of Barbados as it relates to cannabis “decriminalization”, leaves much to be desired.

    Barbadians have taken to social media in their droves, and as I read the numerous post related to yesterday’s announcement, with the comments that followed, one word stood out, “CONFUSION”.

    Ocala Post – First city in Central Florida decriminalizes marijuana

    Cannabis Barbados while not being confused or even surprised by the absurdity of the governments intended plan to decriminalize small amounts of cannabis, finds it offensive and insulting. The justification for these intended actions only add insult to injury.

    That the cost of policing and prosecuting persons for possession and use of small amounts of cannabis is not economically viable, was a justification used. Thus in a shrewd economic adjustment program, almost 90% of the cost of a cannabis offence is now paid by the offender. Now, for the cost of a ticket, the government can make $200 from small quantities of cannabis that can cost from $2.50 to $600. Added to this, for the cost of $200 you will not have a conviction against your name, which in many ways can hinder development and empowerment for the convicted (the one silver lining in this dark cloud of cannabis confusion). No mention was made of any intention to expunge criminal records held by persons previously convicted of a soon to be ticket-able offence.”

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  • And while we are having all these lovely discussions some people will be so distracted that they will not even think that these controversies are being used to cover up some evil shit this government got itself involved in, so someone should be checking..

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  • Andrew Holness intends to put the vote to the Jamaican people in a referendum. No timeline.

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/caribbean/20200915/time-leave-queen-barbados-become-republic-2021

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  • Whatever it is they were doing, Vincent, it did not suit me.

    I feel the weight falling from my shoulders!

    Let the process of reclaiming our self-respect begin!

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  • Of course Tom was way ahead. Deep thinkers and writers usually are.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Donna at 1:17 PM

    We cannot reclaim what we never lost. Barbadians always had self- respect. And they were respected wherever they migrated in this world. We pay too much attention to latter day spin doctors whose job is to undermine our self confidence. I am still trying to find out why.

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  • African countries are no longer tolerating racism against their people so i don’t know why Black governments in the Caribbean still think they should..

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  • Again…always check what evil shit the Mia government is involved in and using all types of distraction to cover its tracks….too many newspapers worldwide are carrying this decoupling from the UK as head of state story, something is being covered up…

    ‘Government has placed workers in jeopardy’ – by Kareem Smith September 15, 2020
    Government has again be told to address urgently changes to the Severance Payments Act that could see thousands of dollars owed to workers who were laid off since since the height of the coronavirus pandemic being forfeited.

    On Monday, Senator Caswell Franklyn slammed the Mia Mottley administration for its lackadaisical response to the matter, while intensifying calls for Government to address the amendment that gives severed workers just four weeks instead of a year to claim severance after the 22-week layoff period expires. He said the issue is particularly urgent for those who were laid off during the national shutdowns of March and April, because for them, the four-week period has already been triggered.

    “…Because if the four weeks run out, then the employer doesn’t have any liability against them, and the Government cannot then amend the act and create a new liability on them. So it is incumbent upon the Government to either fix the legislation before the four weeks run out because these workers will not get anything,” Senator Franklyn explained while on VOB’s Down to Brass Tacks programme.

    “Can you imagine working for 30 years and then all of a sudden, because Government was trying to help out the employers – in this case, the hotel industry – that they took away the severance payment from everybody? This Government cared during the campaign, but they aren’t caring anymore. These are the people that came and voted for them and they didn’t have any regard for what would happen to them,” he then declared.

    Prior to the amendments, the Employment Rights Tribunal was vested with the authority to hear matters relating to severance claims for up to a year after the 22 weeks expired

    “This amendment act says Section 38 of the principal act does not apply to claims made under these amendments. That doesn’t sound troublesome . . . until you find out what Section 38 is. That is the section that gives the tribunal authority to hear matters. If you cannot go to the tribunal, where will you go?” asked the Opposition Senator.

    Franklyn’s warnings to workers started over a week ago when Government, in collaboration with the Barbados Workers’ Union and the Barbados Hotel and Tourism Association, announced a wage subsidy programme that would allow hotel workers the choice of returnimg to a “decent wage” or triggering their severance.

    After a recent meeting among stakeholders, it was still unclear how long the wage subsidy programme would last and what the fate of workers’ severance would be when it was completed.

    As a result, Franklyn warned that unless Government lengthened the time after the 22-week period expired for persons to file their claims, the wage subsidy programme would jeopardise their severance under the new policy.

    Since then, the BWU and Government’s special economic advisor Avinash Persaud gave assurances that the workers’ severance would not be affected. But without the necessary legislative changes, Franklyn declared that workers have been left exposed.

    “Most people don’t know and some who hear about it are confused because they are getting advice from other people, who are telling them the Government is giving them the assurance that it is not going to happen. I don’t want assurances from the Government, I want law, and the law says you cannot go to the tribunal because the case does not apply to the tribunal,” Franklyn declared.”

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  • Blogmaster…ya really too gullible, am so glad ya are not female, ya would get robbed daily…lol

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  • Bajans had “self-respect” built on being “Little England”. A false pride not self-respect.

    You insult me if you think I am one to listen to spin doctors. I felt the weight of that monarchy on my shoulder more than forty years ago.

    I speak to you of MY FEELINGS!

    I cringe when I watch our leaders bow and curtsy. I cringe when I hear them pledge allegiance to that queen.

    If we had self-respect why are we still talking about “brown skin” and “good hair”?

    Bajans are confused creatures. Still thinking white is bright and right.

    You need to dig deeper beneath the facade.

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  • “Under the headline: Barbados to relinquish sovereign ties in a year”, Barbados Today went on to tell its readers in part “….Speaking before the packed Frangipani Room, Dame Sandra said the time had come for Barbados to become self-governing.”

    Donna…for those of us who have always felt that weight since we were children in the Caribbean, it’s because the false leaders LIED…now in their panic to cover up more crimes against the people…THE TRUTH SLIPS OUT….they have always been governed by the monarchy…post fake independence……every low crawling minister has lied to the people about the island’s true status…

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  • Karma and retribution are marching on the earth, is it not wonderful that Mia wrote the speech that EXPOSED THE FAKE INDEPENDENCE, FAKE SELF GOVERNING LIE……lol, lol wuhloss

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  • @ Vincent

    Are we going to dismantle our colonial past in stages. In November next years the Royal Barbados Police Force will become, once again, the Barbados Police Force; the Queen Elizabeth, will become once again the General Hospital; Queen’s College will become ???.
    Then we will turn on our key institution. Get rid of the common law tradition; get rid of the bicameral parliament; all the dames and knights will become ???; etc etc
    Will the president be elected or appointed? Will there be a fixed term? If the president is elected, based on a manifesto, and the ruling party, also based on its manifesto, has different ideas to the president, which carries precedence?
    Should the president be Barbados born?

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  • Yeah…and will they still keep the names of the RACISTS and slavemasters on the schools that now carry that curse and abomination and have for centuries?

    “While it is read out by the governor-general, it is written by the country’s prime minister.”

    can’t blame a fella for that one …wuhloss, murddahhh!!!

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  • So Mia is selling out the Black workers to greedy, tiefing employers again…that should be the topic…

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  • Oh woman, grow up and have a proper debate and stop cutting and pasting crap.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Hal Austin

    I have not a clue. Nor am I going to let such cosmetic changes distract me. They are more important things to be done in this country.I prefer to be part of a solution think tank rather than be among the problem generating clique.

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  • Ha, Ha, stop gossiping, ya full of shit, look at reality for once in ya pretend english life….Elizabeth should deport ya ass…hope ya have another country lined up, how bout Guyana..

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  • No mention of Nelson?

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  • All everyone with a limited knowledge of how the corrupt operates will now want to continue gossiping about same sex unions, the little bit of marijuana still being criminalized and the shitetalk about shedding the monarchy…and Ha, Ha done like to gossip about anything that sweetens him……so a bunch of flies will get caught up in that spider’s web…ya done know when Ha, Ha don’t want to hear anything Caswell has to say about workers being robbed their severance pay, he is stuck in the gossip line.

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  • @Greene
    Despite your many words, and angles, the numbers show that Barbados SPENT MORE than it collected in each year from 2006 onwards. In ’13 & 14 that over number was greater than one BILLION dollars. ONE effing BILLION. Do you know how much that is? ONE BILLION MORE than was collected !!!!
    But @greene that is just money. The larger question is WHERE did it go? This is really where the previous administration excelled. They took the art on NOT REPORTING to levels unimagined by even their most ardent opposer. Subsequently nobody knew exactly where or how that repeated annual overspending occured. Only a handful of public entities actually filed annual reports. We get accounting stories about changes in accrual vs cash etc. But NONE of this prevented a report outlining what was done? This was a systematic neutering of the policies and procedures these entities operated under. AND with NO PENALTY other than a drubbing on election day. And I speak not only on the well known culprits like the NIS, TB, QEH, BNOCL, Caves etc etc but also the majority of public schools were waaaay behind on reporting. It was a wide ranging systemic failure. And no accountability. It en nuhbuddy fault, it just stop so and holler ply.

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  • In the Queen’s Speech, the government claimed it now has a surplus. Is this a current account surplus?

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  • DavidSeptember 16, 2020 9:15 AM

    @bimjim

    Going Republic is a journey to unshakable the mind from a colonial past. The benefit cannot be measured in accounting terms, it will take time to bear fruit.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    While the grass is growing the horse is starving.

    Republic talk at this stage means the 30 zeroes have nothing to offer!!

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  • So Verla called The throne speech warmed over soup which sent mia in a huff and puff to media lost for words
    Wuh dam now all it takes is left over soup for Mia to going crying to the media
    Woman grow up as a leader you should now how to tek yuh licks and move on

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  • Some comments on this article.

    1PingYes2PingsNo
    13 minutes ago
    Watch out for Cubans. Remember what happened to Granada. Get on the phone to Clint Eastwood asap.
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    1PingYes2PingsNo
    16 minutes ago
    Devastating and earth-shattering news.
    Reply

    frankzapata130
    1 hour ago
    I can see cubans making it a communist allied.
    Reply

    grunt1919
    1 hour ago
    Not really changing much that matters, unless they have the ‘republic’ articles written so weakly that a despot can get power and make it basically a dictatorship.
    Reply

    irritatedboomerpatriot66
    2 hours ago
    Another Caribbean sh!ttholle with their hand out every time a hurricane blows through.
    Reply

    theRational117
    2 hours ago
    In 1776, the American founding fathers chose to remove King George III as head of the state, establishing a republic, — the United States of American.
    Reply

    Abraham12
    2 hours ago
    Cross the vacation deal in Barbados off!
    Reply

    nka234
    2 hours ago
    Now free to trade with Haiti and Cuba. Moving on up… to the east side.
    Reply

    BoAlewine
    2 hours ago
    Independence. Why remain part of the British Empire when you can be a third-world country instead?
    Reply

    NoPC-308
    BoAlewine
    2 hours ago
    I could not have said it better myself!! Perfect!
    Reply

    SirAndrewGeorge
    3 hours ago
    Even Barbados doesn’t want anything to do with MEghan Markle.
    Reply

    abbeyc
    3 hours ago
    Barbados will now cease to be a really cool place and will dissolve into poverty and corruption.
    Reply

    irritatedboomerpatriot66
    abbeyc
    2 hours ago
    …like the rest of the Carribbean.
    Reply

    TomS…
    3 hours ago
    Ever notice how the Queen maintains control of the UK -without ever tweeting, holding rallies, or insulting others? Yes, Tramplings, it IS possible…
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    irritatedboomerpatriot66
    TomS…
    2 hours ago
    I congratulate you on completing your public school education, Tom. Your knowledge of parliamentary monarchies has left me spellbound.
    Reply

    Alaskafan
    TomS…
    2 hours ago
    What she does is stand in a window and wave.
    Reply

    beenthere361
    3 hours ago
    Just So Long As They DON’T Expect The US To Bail Them Out Of Their New Dictatorship!!!
    Reply

    DXC
    3 hours ago
    The Sun will soon set on King Charles empire.
    Reply

    gba
    3 hours ago
    Another Zimbabwe just around the corner. Who’s the big strongman coming to take over, in the upcoming one man, one vote, once. A very popular method of “democracy” among some populations.
    Reply

    irritatedboomerpatriot66
    gba
    2 hours ago
    No joke. Cue the Cuban aid and “advisors”…
    Reply

    SurvivalistInStilettos
    gba
    2 hours ago
    China will step in to fill the void of security they had with the UK.
    Reply

    observer104
    3 hours ago
    The ignorance about Barbados displayed here is yet another condemnation of the US education system.
    Reply

    PrincessFiona
    3 hours ago
    The loser in the relationship between brothers is Harry.
    Reply

    HoldMyBeer2
    3 hours ago
    Welp no more UK when the hurricanes rolls through. I am sure the UK is happy with it!
    Reply

    observer104
    HoldMyBeer2
    3 hours ago
    Hurricanes rarely touch Barbados. Do your homework.
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    kohl1957
    3 hours ago
    What do I think? Not a lot. I visited Barbados once. And remember it mainly as forbidding the wearing of “camouflage” clothing. I don’t possess such attire but cannot imagine a country that actually conceives of such a thing. Enjoy being a “republic”.
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    JackCanadian64
    3 hours ago
    Bet the people of Barbados keep English law, language and other institutions. They can call themselves whatever they like LOL.

    They will find soon enough that by ditching the Queen they simply invite corruption and dictatorship. Ultimately a Crown/Governor General (in rare circumstances) has the ability to topple a minority government and force an election, or take recourse in other extraordinary constitutional situations.
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    observer104
    JackCanadian64
    3 hours ago
    Why would people who have spoken only English for generations stop speaking English? Did Americans stop speaking English in 1776? Is there a better legal system than English law? The Napoleonic Code? I am sure they will keep whatever institutions they choose to. That is what free people do.
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    travers1948
    3 hours ago
    Barbados independent since 1966 now jettisoning the English queen in 2021? What took you so long?
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    UnitedStatian
    travers1948
    3 hours ago
    The same reason it took Australia so long, the Queen is just a symbol and means nothing to these countries.
    Reply

    CaptainHuntUSA2019
    3 hours ago
    The Duchess has gained many loyal followers since she and the Duke have decided not to live off the British taxpayers like the rest of the Royal Family of Thieves.
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    Northwoods50
    3 hours ago
    Bye Bye Betsy.
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    samdaclam
    3 hours ago
    My wife is from Barbados. The island is beautiful and is neither a ‘banana republic’ nor is there a lot of crime. The people there are very family oriented and the kids are fairly well educated. I wish that people would not just assume because that it is a predominantly black nation that it has problems. It is self-defeating and makes our side look bad.

    In fact Barbados is a fairly productive nation with a nice tourist and agricultural trade and many famous people have second homes there. I wish that a lot of areas in America had their problems.
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    HoldMyBeer2
    samdaclam
    3 hours ago
    53 richest in the world not bad for a 250k people.
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    Job.33:23
    3 hours ago
    Good for Barbados. This world is long overdue to get rid of the invading colonist and give the land back to the indigenous people.
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    8ntsure
    Job.33:23
    3 hours ago
    The Indigenous people died long ago. The present people were brought in as slaves by the Brits. Good luck to them, hope all goes well.
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    So?
    Job.33:23
    3 hours ago
    Yeah, they did that in Hong Kong.
    The Chinese secret police beating the people of Hong Kong with batons
    worked out really well.
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    bobby100
    3 hours ago
    Atlast they woke up now and realized the queen was robbing them all these years….and kicked off the robber !!!! happy for them
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    mazchaz
    3 hours ago
    Meghan: Harry, we should have moved to Barbados !
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    theloyalsentinal
    3 hours ago
    As long as you don’t expect America to bail you out of anything! Go with God.
    Reply

    bowman02
    3 hours ago
    … now they have a chance to put banana before their system of government!
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    stablegenius105
    3 hours ago
    And here in America, we’re going to remove a dictator wannabe on November 3rd and return to being a republic.
    Make Evil Wrong Again
    Vote Biden 2020
    Vote for the Blue Tsunami
    Wash the Party of Trump into the sewers of history where they belong
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    cruzin
    stablegenius105
    3 hours ago
    So packup to Barbados! Bye- OUT !
    Reply

    2531/0861589
    stablegenius105
    3 hours ago
    You made a convincing argument for how stupid you are.
    Reply

    Ragnorok59
    3 hours ago
    That “next” logical step should have been taken 55 years ago. Now seems a little fishy….after they’ve gotten everything they want.
    Reply

    FlatBrokeDoinItInStyle
    4 hours ago
    finally breakin’ your chains, eh
    anything to do with Queenie about to check out
    and you’ll be stuck with Chuck?
    Reply

    Solon4
    4 hours ago
    a constitutional republic or a SOCIALIST republic
    lemme guess
    Reply

    MelSharples
    4 hours ago
    Alas, Great Britain, you’ll still never be able to get rid of your dependent parasites in Canada.
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    FreeAlta
    MelSharples
    3 hours ago
    You’re the laughing stock of the world and you cast wimpy insults at others? Pure ignorant.
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    Jake-Blanton
    4 hours ago
    Republic? More like banana republic… 🙂
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    TrumpispresidentuntilJan2025-getusedtoit
    Jake-Blanton
    4 hours ago

    A 3rd term of Obama via Biden-Harris will do that for this great republic.
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  • You pollute every post on BU

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  • It is always worthwhile to see what people other than those on BU think.

    There is a whole range of comments, some good, some not so good.

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  • Google Barbados Republic and you will see alot of different people are saying alot of different things.

    We are supposedly adults and fragile or not we should be aware of what others are saying.

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  • @NorthernObserver September 15, 2020 11:44 PM @ss You are usually well versed in social topics. The Cdn GG is no ‘darling’. Recent revelations of staff treatment come as little surprise, recall she an assault charge “expunged”. She would fit as a CSIS honcho much better than GG. Several same-sex unions today raise children. Former Minister Bryson left politics to “spend more time with his daughters”, his partner is male. Woodbine jockey EJ Wilson’s lesbian wife recently gave birth.”

    Northern I hear you.

    Seems that your GG is fully human. Lolll!!! I like that.

    Reproducing the workforce is principally [notice that I did not say solely] the job of heterosexuals. Too few homosexuals in any population to do an effective job.

    heterosexuals need to step up.

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  • @Lorenzo September 16, 2020 5:15 AM “the only two areas ogf concern for me was this haste to go republic and ssme sex unions without a referendum.”

    What haste. We bin talking ’bout going republic since at least 1998. Only in Barbados would 22 years be considered hasty. We is sumting else though. Lolll!!!

    What referendum what. Why should a majority heterosexual population be permitted to vote of whether homosexuals should be permitted to marry each other? How do you think homophobic Bajans would vote?

    All right den, yah can have yah referendum.

    Not one.

    But two.

    The homosexuals will be permitted to vote on whether heterosexuals should be permitted to marry each other.

    Fair is fair.

    In this matter I think that MY government is being very, very cowardly. You have a 30-0 majority, use it to permit homosexuals to marry each other if they want. Just like heterosexuals can marry each other.

    It was not so long ago that “the church” said “no divorce” and if ya hard ears and go and divorce anyhow, then no remarriage for you, even if yah divorced at 22 years old. The church commanded that you embrace celibacy for the rest of your life.

    Right!

    We know how well that works. Lolll!!

    I bet a whole lotta wunna on BU on your second or third, or fourth spouse, and that is not counting the girlfriends and boyfriends who went before.

    Even the ones who call themselves Christians.

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  • Cuhdear BajanSeptember 16, 2020 11:37 PM

    I bet a whole lotta wunna on BU on your second or third, or fourth spouse, and that is not counting the girlfriends and boyfriends who went before.

    Even the ones who call themselves Christians.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Didn’t you say you attend church regularly?

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  • Yup. For nearly 70 years now.

    But not since late February.

    Wha’ happen?

    You gine tell de pastor pun me?

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  • @Hal Austin September 16, 2020 11:03 AM “How can such illiteracy be allowed to work in a newspaper office?”

    You pretending that you don’t know that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys?

    Stupssseee!!!

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  • @Tron September 16, 2020 10:18 AM “Article 3: The people shall elect the President on 1 October 2021 for life. Any woman over 40 years of age with a degree from an elite university in USA or UK may be elected President.”

    Just want to be sure that I understand you clearly, about having a degree from an elite university.

    Does it matter if someone wrote my SAT for me?

    Does it matter if someone wrote my GRE or GMAT for me?

    Does it matter if mummy or daddy’s money was used to pay a university official to open a “side door” for me?

    University front door: for those bright as sh!te and who worked hard at secondary school as well.

    Back door: duncy sons and daughters of alumni. Duncy, lazy sons and daughters of Tron.

    Side door: Those with wealthy mummies and daddies who have half a million dollars or so with which to bribe a university admissions official.

    Thanks for the clarification.

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  • @Donna “the law against sodomy, something I personally do not like but think people should be able decide on for themselves. The law will need to be changed or it will be incompatible with what we KNOW is the sexual expression that will occur in most male same sex civil unions.”

    I am confused.

    You don’t like sodomy?

    Or you don’t like the law against sodomy?

    And Donna, since you are female, and I am certain that you are not a peeping Jane, how exactly is it that your KNOW what goes on in male-male bedrooms?

    i should tell you that at near 70, I have NEVER EVER witnessed a sex act, except for my own.

    So I am truly curious as to how you KNOW?

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  • @Donna

    I have no wish to traumatise you nor Caswell, as the story goes British Parliamentarians did not wish to traumatise Queen Victoria by informing her what really goes on in female-female bedrooms.

    But I have heard that that same alleged act also goes on between male-female.

    What then?

    Bedroom police?

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  • JohnSeptember 16, 2020 10:11 PM

    You are quite right, it is interesting to see some of the comments on the international social media. What is clear, is that many people in various countries are igrunt as whuh, have no clue or are just stupid as a brick.

    There are also some with a brain, I guess it is just like any social media. A collection of comments from a wide cross section of people. Unfortunately, the majority of comments that appeared were from a majority of dimwits, as their comments were either socially or legally ignorant.

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  • Cuhdear BajanSeptember 17, 2020 12:50 AM Bedroom police?

    ++++++

    Absurdity, isn’t it? People so worried about what others do with their bodies. Look, I could not care if they have orgies and hold one another and whatever. Whose business is it but their own?

    Is because the plantation owner Bible tell them that is bad. And whip them if they think otherwise. The priest (who seems to spend a lot of time with the altar boys), tell them is bad. Nowadays, is a pastor driving a Cadillac and with three planes, who they worship. Even when he gets caught with other than the wife. Or like Falwell, enjoy watching. That is his business, but not the hypocrisy part.

    Stupse, people need to focus on what is important.

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  • “Not our business” dahling….you elect the shite leaders…Bajans have to understand that IT’S THEIR BUSINESS whatever ugly, racist, oppressive, exploitative plans Mia and her dirty little minorities whom she promotes, elevates and treat like 1st class citizens before the BLACK MAJORITY….whom she dehumanizes, have in store for them…just remember ALL THE LIES these no good PMs. ministers, lawyers etc have told you over the last 50 years…YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED…..and now one of the biggest liars believe she can own you herself, she and her crook friends, as captured slaves….more of the same.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/09/16/not-our-business-says-british-high-commission

    “Barbados’ decision to release itself from British monarchical rule appears to be of little concern to the British High Commission in Bridgetown”

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  • Read between the lines..

    “There are republics that are a part of the Commonwealth, so it will not affect our international ties to any entities, including to Britain,” she told Barbados TODAY.

    “As far as I can see, moving toward republican status has not negatively affected any countries within the region in terms of their connections with other states around the world. I guess it is the content and character of the state that really affects that,” Hinds added.”

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  • This is what’s in store for you and your children and grandchildren…AND EVEN WORSE if you don’t get up off your asses and do something about these repulsive beasts and red negro wannabe slavemasters.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/09/17/sandals-workers-cry-out-want-pm-to-intervene/

    “Employees at Sandals Resort are calling on Prime Minister Mia Mottley to initiate an immediate investigation into labour practices at the Christ Church property, which they say have deteriorated significantly and are not in keeping with the best social partnership traditions in the island.”

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  • Wuhloss…hold that beer and the celebratory glass of champagne..

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/09/16/govt-warned-of-political-consequences-if-promises-unkept/

    “There will be tremendous political fallout if the current administration fails to deliver on commitments regarding same-sex unions, marijuana legalization and the move toward republicanism, which successive Governments have promised but failed to deliver.”

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  • “which sent mia in a huff and puff to media lost for words”

    well she did send her little sideshow all across the globe to every media outlet, knowing full well that the false promise of going republic was regurgitated for over 2 DECADES…just like the false promise to remove the racist, disrespectful and insulting nelson statute is over 2 decades old and counting , so the more creative amongst us, had to also send INFORMATION ACROSS THE GLOBE about all the human rights violations perpetrated by the black faces of parliament and their wicked tiefing minority cartel lowlifes against the Black majority….how bout that, maybe next time she won’t be so desperate to publicly insult the intelligence of the Black majority.

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  • Franklyn: Throne Speech wasted

    by COLVILLE MOUNSEY TUESDAY’S UNPRECEDENTED midterm Throne Speech has been slammed by Opposition Senator Caswell Franklyn as a “wasted opportunity, littered with misplaced priorities”.

    SENATOR CASWELL FRANKLYN (right) with his wife Priscillia (centre) and stepdaughter Neah Calllender arriving at the Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre on Tuesday for the State Opening of Parliament. (Picture by Reco Moore.)

    The outspoken trade unionist told the

    DAILY NATION yesterday that Barbados was facing too many urgent issues, brought on mainly by the COVID-19 pandemic, for attention to be diverted to matters such as marijuana decriminalisation, becoming a republic and same-sex unions.

    “This Government had an opportunity to level with the people of Barbados and to work through our problems. Instead, they went and tried to deal with matters that appear near and dear to them, such as same-sex relationships and marijuana smoking. I find that really offensive because there are simply too many things for this country to deal with.

    “We have over 40 000 people who are unemployed, and they are concerned with things to make themselves look good. Pray tell me when we become a republic, how many people will get jobs as a result? Only a few legal draughtspeople and that’s it. The Prime Minister [Mia Amor Mottley] has not said what type of president that we are looking to have, and these are things that should not be foisted upon the people,” he added.

    Franklyn argued that plans to recognise same-sex civil unions should have been put in the party’s manifesto at the last election, so the electorate could have decided if this was the type of value system it wanted.

    He also accused Mottley of not thinking through some of the proposals, noting he could foresee logistical challenges in implementing some of them. He criticised the plan to implement a ticketing system for possession of half-ounce or less of marijuana.

    Franklyn questioned how this was going to be accomplished in the absence of field-testing equipment to determine if the vegetable matter the person was smoking, was indeed marijuana.

    Obsessed with marijuana

    “They seem to be obsessed with marijuana and all of a sudden now you are going to let people have half-ounce of marijuana and the police would not be able to arrest you, but instead be able to give you a ticket. This is not a traffic offence which is obvious to the naked eye, such as in the case where you parked where you shouldn’t park. You don’t need any other forensic analysis to determine that a man park where he shouldn’t.

    “But pray tell me, what are you going to do when you see a fellow smoking something? How are you going to determine that it is indeed marijuana? The police do not have the facility to analyse there and then on the spot.”

    Franklyn also criticised Government’s $300 million Barbados Employment and Sustainable Transformation (BEST) plan, much of which would be directed towards the resurgence of the tourism sector. The plan is expected to see the retention of 75 per cent of workers in the hospitality sector, earning 80 per cent of their wages.

    However, he charged that some hotel owners had been taking advantage of their employees during this crisis, and now it appeared Government was putting more resources at their disposal with little guarantee the workers would be truly protected.

    “I don’t know how it would work and I don’t even know if it would make sense. Right now, as we speak, hotels are taking advantage of workers. Some owners have called workers and told them that now that their 22-week layoff is over, they have put them on vacation. They can’t do that. They are doing everything possible to take advantage of workers and yet Government is paying them . . . .

    “What Government needs to do is extend unemployment benefits and conduct whatever training that needs to be done through the Labour Department. You don’t have to give the hotels money to do it,” he stressed.

    He said many of the other points in the Throne Speech were rehashes of the Government’s plan of action when it took office in 2018.

    Source: Nation News

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  • WURA-War-on-USeptember 17, 2020 3:11 AM

    We should ASSume that any government assistance to hotels comes with requirements to ensure that statutory and moral (as to expected and common employment practices) are adhered to.

    That said, social media is a very powerful tool, I am sure that Sandals will wish to be seen in the best possible light, worldwide, if you catch my drift.

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  • Theo…at least one person got it right, the intent is to get rid of Elizabeth, so that Mia and her gang of crooks can keep the same colonial slave system, the same racism, exploitation and oppression, all the structures of destruction and use them against Black people who look just like her, this is a plan all of these dirty rats sat around a table and concocted, but ah wish them luck, they will be famous in every corner of the earth, let them carry on smartly, don’t be surprised to see a gang of them dragged up to some international court for human rights abuses against the Black majority….many people have been waiting for years to implement…let’s go republic already…

    “JackCanadian64
    3 hours ago
    Bet the people of Barbados keep English law, language and other institutions. They can call themselves whatever they like LOL.”

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