The following article appears in the Business Section of the the Independent dated 13 September 2020, a newspaper based in Ireland where Prime Minister Mia Mottley was also reported promoting business opportunities between Barbados and Ireland.

Readers will recall two earlier blogs posted to Barbados Underground which highlighted a matter that has reached the Barbados Courts between Irish businessman Alan McIntosh and local businessman Peter Odle which has been in abeyance in the court system since 2008..

See following links:

It makes any sensible person wonder what is the point of expending so much effort and resources to sell Barbados as an international business centre and because of a dysfunctional court system; one that is perceived to be manipulated, potential returns are nullified. Based on the notification from the Supreme Court of Barbados the case is set down to be heard on the 26 January 2021 at 9:30AM. We know this is no guarantee the matter will be heard given the long arm of influence by some in our country.

See article in the Independent newspaper.


Cairn Homes founder warns investors about Barbados

The capital of Barbados, Bridgetown
The capital of Barbados, Bridgetown

September 13 2020 02:30 AMAlan McIntosh, a founder of Cairn Homes and Emerald Investments, has sent a letter to the Prime Minister of Barbados in which he advised people not to invest in Barbados.

The investor wrote the letter after Prime Minister of Barbados Mia Mottley appeared in a Business Post article looking to increase economic links between Ireland and her country. She also appeared on Irish radio to talk about a “work from Barbados” scheme.

Copies of the letter were sent to others, including Tánaiste Leo Varadkar.

McIntosh made a $2.5m investment in Barbados three years ago. He ended up in a dispute with one of the shareholders in the project, Peter Ogle, starting legal action in 2018.

In the letter, seen by Ergo, McIntosh wrote that he has been waiting “almost three years” for the matter to be heard.

Of investing in Barbados, McIntosh wrote: “I am an Irish investor who invested in Barbados, and I wish I’d never done so. Unless changes are made to the legal system in Barbados, I would urge no one to invest in Barbados, either commercially or to buy a condo, holiday home or even take a holiday there. Why? The legal system is not fit for foreign investment or even to settle minor disputes in a timely manner.”

Later in the letter, he wrote: “I have waited for the court system to allow me due process, and after almost three years have seen no progress in the courts whatsoever.

“My advice to anyone contemplating investing in Barbados is: ‘Do not Do It’.”

Barbados didn’t respond to a request for comment.

157 responses to “A Pesky Irish International Investor”


  1. If the legal system fails, the state fails.


  2. At some point someone must ask de Madam what are the results of all her long talk? de Madam is fast becoming a hot air balloon


  3. quote ]
    “Many jobs that can be filled by Barbadians are not filled by Barbadians because some of them not white and that is mostly what it is. But the biggest problem is when they bring these people in, they pay them four and five times more than they pay the local staff and they provide accommodation for them too. So they are not getting any better work because the local staff still do the work for them. It is just that they are in charge,” he said.

    Insisting that the change must come with the minister responsible saying ‘no’, Franklyn said: “We allow it because we want their investment. We are selling our souls. This country is selling its soul for a dollar and that is basically what it is.”

    He added: “The government needs to show some intestinal fortitude and tell them no, if you don’t want to employ locals then you can leave your investment.”

    Adding that the practice had become the norm in the tourism sector, the outspoken union leader said “The hotels are now the slave plantation of the 21st century. Black people are still being enslaved and treated badly in these jobs.

    “No amount of talking will change it, we need radical change in this country,” said Franklyn, who also dismissed the Prime Minister’s suggestion that the country needed a larger population.

    “Right now you have almost 40,000 people unemployed and you are going to bring in 80,000? . . . We can’t afford any more people, but this is what the handlers of the Government want and so they make these stupid proposals,” he said. [unquote

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/09/12/hotel-ad-seeking-to-employ-non-national-draws-ire/

    Franklyn seems to be the only credible opposition around. the BLP taking a 6 for a 9


  4. (Quote)
    If the legal system fails, the state fails.

    Complètement d’accord (Or should we say: “Spot On”!)

    And all this bad mouthing of Bim as a gulag for foreign investors is reinforced by the Donvillegate affair.

    The justice system is the bedrock of the society and ought to act as both the lubricant and glue to keep the social and economic systems functioning effectively.

    No one in their right financial mind would now want to invest in real estate or engage in other ‘honest’ business dealings as long as the legal and justice system(s) operate like a cabal of incompetent and corrupt grandees.


  5. Tell the Irishman to relax this all happening on ” Island Time”. Oh and in the meantime we got you back so we just appoint Odle as chairman of a big board we got here. Yes we wanted to send wunna foreign investors a message you see so wunna have a nice day. Yes cause here the beaches sprinkle with gold and all we people got jobs so we dont need wunna foreign money. Plus we does look out for we friends and reward them at all cost, so you must accept that too dont mind the message it send. Thats right that too is de “Island Way.”

    If it wasnt so sad it would be funny.


  6. @Miller

    The late Amused posted voluminously about the negative effect of our moribund court on the international business sector. It is surprising we have not witnessed a more strident lobby from BIBA. Many of these associations are too political.


  7. are we witnessing the moment when David realises that de Madam and the Bees are full of bollocks? or as soon as de Madam spouts some BS as no doubt there will be in the Throne Speech the koolaid will be imbibed again?


  8. @Greene

    Playing the man does not become you.


  9. man, you have to explain what you mean by that


  10. The bar rats must have ran out of Black people to rob at least 10 years ago seeing as they stole from so many over the last 60 years…so they now have no problem robbing whites and everyone else.

    https://m.facebook.com/NationBarbados/photos/a.304733980988/10157165746805989/?type=3&sfnsn=scwspwa&extid=hULigwK0nQA3IESw


  11. Why not highlight the twisting of former Deputy Commissioner of Police , Bertie Hinds arm by a former Prime and the Attorney General. Ironically while the former PM, Owen Arthur is deceased ; the Attorney General, Dale Marshall is now back in Office.
    Here we are opening a new thread that has dominated BU for several days but we are refusing to open a discussion of what was perhaps one of the most despicable abuse of power by any politician or politicians since independence. How can we expect any improvement in the justice system when a Prime Minister and or Attorney an Attorney General can directly use their power to get what they want.
    Things get curiouser and curiouser.


  12. Look i could see this Sunday morning that nobody didnt explain to thr Irishman how things here work so i going help he out.

    Now when the Bees in power dem got them untouchable faithfuls that they does look out for like Odle and others, so you have to understand that before wunna invest here.

    I know you saying you will wait for when the Dems in power to invest then. No no dont plan for that causes dem got their faithfuls too to try and give a seat to on a board and reward as well.

    Regardless of if them got a little legal problem or not, after all them is still we friends cuhdear.

    But it dont stop there cause you got to also watch for a specail breed called the “politcal chameleons.” Now these is very rare and usually does be white or off white like Maloney so. Well them does feed out of both troughs it seem very easy. So one year the yellow with the dems and just so the does turn red and run with the bees.

    You see Mr Foreign Investor you have to kmow we politcal chest board and how to play pun it. We small but we is a complex island. Anyhow in case the court thing take another 10 years and you have a child, it may be good to leave the settlement in you will for them. Just in case the systwm outlive you God forbid.

    Wunna could laugh but tell me I lie! Lol


  13. WS,

    as i understand it Marshall was only the conduit of Arthur’s message to Hinds. however, it is telling that after they refused Hinds’s request they honored a comparable request from Dottin


  14. @ William

    We do not have to go far, just look at the case of Officer Gittens. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Barbados is a failed state.


  15. @Wiliam

    What is your reventing you from highlighting on your platform?

    Steuspe


  16. John A 8:10 a.m.
    Nailed it, even if it was said in jest.


  17. @HAL

    “If the legal system fails, the state fails.”

    Unfortunately the country is allready there, FAILED STATE status. Only the cut off of free credit or DEVALUATION has the potential to bring the country back to REALITY.


  18. @ Theo

    You got to laugh or you would dead in these times. We far from perfect but I still glad I here and not living in Trumpland where idiots say its their constitutional right not to wear a mask. Well dead then!


  19. @ Greene
    The Attorney General is the Chief Law enforcer under our system of government. No cabinet can be announced unless there is an AG. If a PM uses his political power to over ride the AG , the AG should resign from cabinet immediately. We are operating like a banana republic and continue y try o make excuses for sheer political skulduggery.
    Same thing with this now revealed “ College if Negotiators”. We talk about transparency. Who are they . Have their names and experience in purchasing buses or anything been made public? If not why are they a secret? Were they paid and how much?
    Now, I have not seen such information made public. In the event that it was, I humbly apologize.
    We act as if the DLP is still in office. The people correctly and kicked them out of office. Chances of them seeing office under fifteen years are very slim.We talk about a honeymoon for any incoming government. We seem to be giving the current government a perpetual honey moon. It’s time we become more inclusive when looking at performance rather than rhetoric in some areas.
    We all give the government an A plus for handling the COVID. However in several other areas it seems to be uncertainty and too much hocus pocus. For example :the Prescod nonsense fired one day given some title the next; no real determined policy on PSVs; do we still need consultants if BERT is history; Should cabinet be reduced since ministers seem to be overlapping each other – note the Home Affairs minister dipping into tourism policy etc
    I am hoping the throne speech will set a clear tone as to how we plan to proceed- the rhetoric( Mottley) is now just as confusing as the silence(Stuart)


  20. @ Wily

    Here is a test: Get two pieces of paper and mark one positive and the other negative. List under each the positives and negatives of post-independence, from 1966-2020. Let BU readers know the result.
    Barbados is a comprehensively failed state. We do not have to go back to Arthur/Thompson/Stuart. Lt us start from May 25, 2018, when the good people of Barbados took it upon themselves to give Mottley a 30:0 parliament.
    Any democratically inclined person of integrity, who believed in transparency, the first thing they will do is to impose self-control on their actions. Making sure that every decision, every appointment, every speech they make was moderate, proportionate, liberal.
    Instead, we have a president who has changed the constitution to give childhood friends seats in the Senate, to appoint a friend as an economic consultant with more apparent power than elected members of her Cabinet.
    Our democracy has been undermined by a power-crazed, self-obsessed woman, who has no respect for our democratic institutions. Yet , some of her supporters, no matter what, still come on BU and defend her.
    So, we are left to see what she will put in the Queen’s Speech on Tuesday. It will either be a roadmap for fundamental change or be further evidence of her true intentions.


  21. Should be incisive not inclusive when looking at performance. My apologies.


  22. Damage control. Spin proposed by a friend.

    At request of the PM…….Odle has resigned from the Board.

    That would show the PM as strong but nice. ( that is adoosra )


  23. So far, no one has explained the miracle of devaluation. Is it that they think they will get “properties” at a fraction of their current cost?

    As an example, if wunna think that a house costing BDS $100K (now US $50K) gonna cost US $10K after devaluation (1 US=10 BDS) then think again.

    The price of that now $100K Bajan will go to at least $500K new Bajan dollars. Only the most desperate will sell very cheap.

    If wunna got money in wunnah pocket and think you will pick up stuff on the cheap, abandon that idea.

    Please, no hand waving, no insults, no name calling. Just explain in simple language why devaluation is a solution.

    Please explain, why if devaluation will solve our problems, why the rest of the Caribbean will not follow suit in order to be competitive.


  24. @Hants

    That is a nice to see happen. The more urgent issue is for the government to allocate significant resources to make the dispense of justice in this matter AND others a reality. This is why the negative exposure being generated by this matter may have a win win effect.


  25. The Miller

    The truth is that this so-called legal system has never done anything but fail the Bajan African descended population.

    Those who would now like to make that irrational connection in order to serve narrow argumentative agendas have always refused to supply more broadly defined and substantial arguments.

    This is the same legal system, for example, which historically criminalized vendors from trading on beaches and on main streets in Bridgetown – Black people. On the other hand, the legal system has historically passed laws in the Parliament of a Barbados to enrich poor Whites like the Goddards et al. In more recent times, under a purportedly independent Barbados, it has done the same thing to enrich a poor White Jamaican in the person of Butch Stewart.

    Where was the failure of the state then.

    The real truism is that the government of Barbados is, and has never been anything less than, a private CORPORATION for the enrichments of elite economic forces. In in that regard we can safely say that it is well inline with the international consensus as built over 500 years. Well done Bimshire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  26. Harlequin


  27. What I cannot get my head around, is that with our abundance of island scholars, our abundance of university educated folks, our abundance of lawyers and with over 50 years of political power, we have been unable to swing the needle from one side to the other.

    One must wonder if our politicians are given offers/orders that they cannot refuse.

    How can we sit back and allow ourselves to become second class citizens in our own home. Soon to be 3rd class with the arrival of 80,000 new immigrants.


  28. @ Pachamama September 13, 2020 8:48 AM

    Can find no ‘fault’ with your argument.

    One only has to look at the treatment of marijuana users to underscore the point that the criminal justice system is there to destroy the lives of young black men.


  29. people and their expectations have always intrigued me. de Madam has been around politics for a long time. she spent 14 as a Cabinet Minister. she has a history. it is one of failure and less failure notwithstanding that some young bloke came here and said she was a successful AG and the fact that she was granted a QC designation meant that she was an outstanding lawyer. when i asked him to point to the precedent setting cases she was involved in or to any legal papers she authored or co authored, there were crickets.

    i had no expectations from this Govt except a continuation of its 1994-2008 regime. i have always contended that that period signalled the no return point for Bim. the desecration of the west coast, the sell off of Govt lands, the borrow and spend policies by Govt which was followed by the borrow and spend habit of the population at large, the rise of land prices and other prices with no comparable rise in salaries, the stupid mantra of land is only an asset and the push to make Bim a first world country built on credit and piss poor laws and enforcement thereof, were a milieu for disaster. it was a slow burning crisis that just needed a catalyst to set events in motion.

    all the latent signs were there of system failure- huge national and personal debt, corrupt politicians, a population spending beyond its means, weak legal infrastructure, dilapidated island wide physical infrastructure, an uncaring and expectant public, an unchecked criminal underbelly, and a greedy private sector.

    then enter a deep recession and the limp dick DLP regime after Thompson.


  30. “The truth is that this so-called legal system has never done anything but fail the Bajan African descended population.”

    and that’s why it’s being FULLY EXPOSED from the Continent of Africa to the Americas and clear across Europe, cause if these sellout rats in the parliament think they are going to pimp any credit for selling out in the new reconstruction while pimping reparations off the backs of their enslaved, murdered and brutalized ancestors and while proudly continuing the racism, segregation, exploitation and oppression against the African descended population and determinedly maintaining a slave society using the people’s money to furtherdestroy black people, without DIRE consequences…let them carry on smartly…

    “The real truism is that the government of Barbados is, and has never been anything less than, a private CORPORATION for the enrichments of elite economic force”

    but the dirty no good negros ALWAYS have to approach the BLACK POPULATION every 5 years to BEG for votes with their mouths filled with lies and deceit to achieve any of that…am sure they already started practicing their lies to the people….with less than 3 years to go to election..


  31. Hal Austin above: If the legal system fails, the state fails.

    As the 19th anniversary of what’s commonly regarded as the international “Crime of the Century” just passed two days ago, let’s examine that crime in light of Hal’s statement above.

    It’s a common principle of detectives and criminal investigators to determine who profits from a crime to identify the most likely suspects, and therefore those who should be submitted to a rigorous investigation. Why did 9/11 investigators not use the fundamental principle of identifying who profits from a crime to determine the most likely suspects to be further investigated for the crime of 9/11/2001?

    9 /11 Trillions: Follow The Money
    Forget for one moment everything you’ve been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.


  32. “One only has to look at the treatment of marijuana users to underscore the point that the criminal justice system is there to destroy the lives of young black men.”

    all of that is being exposed worldwide, one white female called me of all people recently and was appalled that the demons in the parliament are still treating Black people like that for Marijuana, was even more repulsed at what the Mia government is doing to Black people over the medical marijuana…..but she thinks she looks good, so let her carry on smartly….,more exposure for the clowns..

  33. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, your statements say it all if one wants to read with understanding…

    You noted: “The late Amused posted voluminously about the negative effect of our moribund court on the international business sector.”

    That suggests quite bluntly that this Irishman and all others who invest in Bim KNOW or SHOULD KNOW into what they invest.

    Yet they do and are willing – it seems
    – to suffer the RISKS therein associated! …. Thus they either hedge those risks accordingly, perceive THEIR clout will see them prevail (expeditiously) if there is a dispute or are willing to wait out the system!

    For years companies invested heavily into China although they faced a very difficult legal system there; almost mandatory give-away of some of their intellectual property and other damaging impacts on their investments … yet they went into China.

    Then when you also assert quite correctly that “It is surprising we have not witnessed a more strident lobby from BIBA. Many of these associations are too political” we should readily accept that LIFE and BUSINESS is ALL too political.

    These are KNOWN risks … the shock and awe of the delays (CCJ harsh critiques) lack of payments on judgements (Barrack matter), abject apathy by Bajan authorities to sanction wrong doing (ICB bribery, CLICO) and so on seem often as no hindrance for future investments !

    Just saying … this Barbadian swamp didn’t start three years ago or 10 years ago and yet our investment climate “seems” robust and just the other day we were on international media selling ourselves as an IDEAL domain for young professionals to come and live and work remotely with legitimacy of their tax laws and other legal considerations …. Whaloss!

    Lots of amoke and mirrors and I MUST believe everyone with common sense hedge their bets sensibly when they invest in Bim!

    I gone.


  34. “The bar rats must have ran out of Black people to rob at least 10 years ago seeing as they stole from so many over the last 60 years…so they now have no problem robbing whites and everyone else.”

    We all wish that people were honest and do the right thing. Perhaps the fact that they now prey on whites will bring about the desired changes.

    For the person charge with writing the memo, please write “be honest with all” and not “do not steal from whites”.


  35. “What I cannot get my head around, is that with our abundance of island scholars,”

    island scholars want nothing to do with sell-out negros in the parliament, bar association and supreme court, they see it as lowering their standards so they stay away..

    “That would show the PM as strong but nice.”

    no one will ever trust Mia, she used the deceased Holder child and his mother to be elected so she can show a minority of thieves like maloney who is directly responsible for that child’s death…et al that she sees them as 1 st class citizens and is willing to keep the population who elected her and who fund the country as 2nd class citizens to achieve that evil crime against humanity…..and that will BITE HER…..until she closes her eyes

    …..start wrong……….


  36. @DpD
    You left too quickly as I did not understand all of your points.

    How you could take the fact that a investor should do research and make it an excuse for being cheated puzzles me.

    And to some how link it with the initiative to have professionals live here and work remotely is reasoning that I cannot understand.

    Help me (a sincere appeal)

    If I see the moniker “tortured logician” in the near future I will have a good idea of who it is.


  37. Say it again:

    “At some point someone must ask de Madam what are the results of all her long talk? de Madam is fast becoming a hot air balloon.”

    she and that tub of poop on 2 legs in St. Vincent still attempting to fool the gullible and weakminded that they somehow have some kinda power over international financial wheeling and dealing….they are pretenders and frauds…


  38. Lest we forget Another Pesky Irish investor used Barbados to

    https://www.ftadviser.com/investments/2017/11/07/harlequin-boss-in-court-on-fraud-charges/

  39. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    Now that we have looked into the mirror and do not like what we are seeing there, what are we doing about it?
    More long talk?


  40. Theo…years ago i met the wife of a dude who worked at one of the local banks, he was imported, the man got physically and mentally sick at the way they do things in Barbados, he had to take his family and RUN TO SAVE HIS SANITY and health…

    thing is, despite being common knowledge on the island for years and years, it was still not exposed enuff internationally until now, they still kept it secret, talked a good game, LIED A LOT…..a lot of fowl slaves on BU are also responsible for spreading untruths about the true nature of the incompetence, corruption and inefficiencies on the island…but day runs…….until night catches up…it’s going to be a long , long nightfall…..and the fowls are hiding…

    wait until all the whites and others they robbed over the years start crawling out of the woodwork..now that would be worth watching, it will be better than TV….


  41. @ Vincent

    Get another mirror maybe as surely there is nothing wrong with us?

    Plus mirrors is funny things cause I does see some things out on Kadooment day and I kmow dem in look in no mirror before dem left home!


  42. the entertainment value of the 3 hour long Throne Speech will be precious. lots of blame (last 10 years and or Covid), loads of promises to reboot and nothing will change.


  43. I suspect the shopkeeper started early or last night party is still going on..

    Have a great day Barbados.
    Party on, John
    HAGD


  44. @ Hants

    See you are Googling my old newspaper. I warned Barbados.

  45. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ Hants at 9 :48 AM

    Are those dates for UK hearing any shorter than the one we are reviewing?


  46. On my way out I listened to Mia. I did not google..

    Seem like she said, talk of “quantitative easing” is shiite talk. Funny, I had the same idea

    When I see ‘trillion’, ‘quantitative easing’… my eyes glaze over.. not applicable to Barbados .

    By the way, if you count prisoners among the unemployed in these dire times it changes by less than 2 percentage points.

    Bread and butter, not BS.

    Have a good day
    Passive/aggressive 🙂 and like you I return to the scene of the crime when others think it is over
    HAGD

  47. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Theo, you readily create contrivances where they should be none.

    1.Its obvious we as a country have major problems with our legal system … as the Blogmaster alluded to above when he said: “The late Amused posted voluminously about the negative effect of our moribund court on the international business sector.”

    Amused was a senior attorney and lambasted the system for YEARS.

    2.That sets the tone NOT as “an excuse for being cheated” but for the ubiquitous, well known: CAVEAT EMPTOR.

    This Irishman knows that and $1 million plus investments demands careful due diligence with that warning top of mind.

    3.Thus I am sure he didn’t plan to be cheated and hedged his bets to minimize such … thus it’s also my expectation that he considered a PROTRACTED process if things got out of hand and planned accordingly.

    That’s NOT to say this is a good thing or that things are working as he planned.

    4.But that leads us to the fact that ANYONE making the decision to come here under the recent remote-work 1 year offer MUST reflect that if a multi millionaire can be screwed like this in our legitimate court system that they could be trampled into ruin if they have a problem … not to say they should expect one… but they would be FOOLISH not to look at how our system works and its possible impact on them!

    5.Therefore, sir they as any other sensible outsider coming to invest in Bim need to be BEWARE AS A BUYER … just as anyone investing in China does but still GOES.

    Why.. because the UPSIDE is so great… you HEDGE (take an action in order to offset a potential future loss) and go for it!

    Yes the system is plagued with problems but investors are not FOOLS walking stupidly into a con to be cheated.

    So respectfully, please stop the unnecessary touturous contrivances.


  48. @ theo

    Yes i running a specail 4 beers for $10 and you can use the bathroom for $1 each time you need to!

    I learn from the politicians how to give and take back!


  49. Anyhow folks have a good day will check back later and see who cussing who!

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