Submitted by Pachamama

By the end of the business day, Thursday 27 August 2020, political history of the world would have been written by one Donald Trump. This grifter would have achieved total and unquestioned controlled over the Republican National Convention (RNC) apparati and inserted his brand in such a way that there would be no recognizable differences between man, family and party. The former Republican Party would have become an integral part of the ‘family businesses.

The current coming-out ‘party’ convention has been so organized so that not a whisper of dissent could be given voice. Every ‘man jack’ chosen to speak was to be a reliable Trumpeter. Only Hitler was this exacting. Dissidents were either skillfully sidelined, assigned to the political wilderness in search of uncertain futures or made to join the growing numbers of ‘never-Trumpers’ in groups like the Lincoln Project, in exile as outside supporters of Joe Biden, a man who himself, is less than compos mentis.

As Trump plays for keeps, the clear intention is the deployment of the party organization for the maximization of personal and generational wealth. He and he alone must be the richest man in the world. This is Trump’s personal party! This is all happening, while the Democratic congressional leadership is running around talking about passing this bill, and that bill. But none of this matters to Trump. For Trump, they provide good cover for him to reshape the political structure, under their feet, and in his own image, his brand. The Republican leadership, on the other hand, has been mere lapdogs to this new ‘King’ of America!

We would be unsurprised should Trump emerge from this convention gaining the added bonus of reducing the margins between himself and Biden, a post-convention bounce. This is the normal bounce expected, which Biden failed to obtain from his own theatrical displays of last week.

At the end of the day we would fail to see, if Trump is as successful as we assess he will be, the circumstances under which the current political duopoly formations could resist the type of transformation similar to that as imposed on the Whig Party of the early 19th century. The real question here is whether the Republican Party, as we have known it, is now dead or not? Given demography, some may wonder how it could have existed for so long. History may find that this has been achieved through systemic electoral fraud. This is a history of fraud with which the Democratic Party (DNC) has willingly colluded to ensure that the status quo is maintained.

Trump must be well-pleased with himself for getting away with the incessant moral and legal challenges he has mounted to the system. For example, no president has thus far, been subjected to an impeachment conviction but continued to successfully seek the party’s banner in a coming election. But nobody even mentions this fact. Such is the gravamen of existential challenges to the duopoly as presented by Trumpism.

Maybe, he was right when he voiced his truism that the president’s power is ‘total’. Evidently, his most loyal supporters, the fascist-Christian-evangelicals; court systems well populated by Trump loyalists; that critical mass of Euro-Americans whose every sinew is racist; the silent corporate elites who support both duopoly factions; and a bevy of supine congressmen and senators are now well-prepared to set-sail any remaining notions about ‘democracy’, ‘liberty’, ‘freedom’ down the Potomac River. The Potomac two-step on full display!

Trump has instilled such a perverse party ‘discipline’ that a Martian visiting Earth and landing on this convention would not believe that there is currently a pandemic and that north of 200,000 Americans, based on excess deaths statistics, lay dead. Even as a coterie of buffoons feels confident enough to compel a populace to believe that what is real is indeed fiction and that fiction is reality. Oh, where is George Orwell when needed most!

Internationally, the Dictator-in-Chief has wielded his fascist powers with ruthless efficiency. We could list the countries. They include Bolivia, Venezuela, Guyana, Belarus, Palestine, Syria and more. In the case of Guyana he, with hidden hands, was able to deploy CARICOM and the OAS to overturn an election and install the PPP on the basis that one of his associates in Washington was a paid consultant to the Jagdeo gang. What is currently happening at the so-called Republican National Convention has more to do with the future of empire and the fortunes of the Caribbean than anything happening in this region currently.

Of course, we expect Trump will be the next president. This we see as highly possible regardless to who wins the most votes, who gains the larger number of delegates in the Electoral College or what the exit-polling may suggest. A Biden victory will merely delay the inevitable. The American fascist dictator has already laid the predicate in order to question any adverse result. Before that, we are guaranteed an enhanced panoply of uniquely American electoral fraudulent measures, maybe by both sides, measures already in play. Will CARICOM and the OAS interfere like they did in Guyana or Bolivia?

Even if by some miracle Biden were to win, it would be another significant hurdle to get Trump out of the White House, physically. Biden is wrongly persuaded that the military brass will expel Trump under these circumstances. Given recent events outside this very White House and the irrational refusal of all elements of the military to arrest Donald Trump and subject him to a military tribunal on treason charges, we are not inclined to concur with Biden.

Trump has never followed any tradition or lawful requirement. He breaks more laws before breakfast that the criminals in his dungeons, it has been said. Also, he is much too fearful of going to jail, like he must, if a sense of political decency is to be re-established in Washington DC. We are therefore left to loiter on the good graces of ordinary citizens in an unlikely quest of removing a political carbuncle from the body politic.

We have been reminded that the Constitution requires the Speaker of the House, Pelosi, to assume the interim-presidency should there be long-lasting election uncertainty going beyond January 20th, 2021, as Trump is threatening with blatant interference in the USPS. But even if it were to come to this, we would fail to see any circumstances where the incumbent, Donald J. Trump would recognize her (Pelosi’s) existence. He may even have her arrested should she venture anywhere near 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The fatal flaw is the American political culture requiring the presumptive loser to accept defeat will serve merely to ignite deeper social discord and further the aims of the fascists. This is an environment Trump lives for and is clearly willing to ignite a civil war if necessary.

The classical definition of fascism has been the conjoining of political and economic forces, an unholy alliance. However, what we see emerging here through the use of processes to further disempower the masses and enrich the few is a more virulent formation than understood by the traditional definition. Lewis and Long argued well that when fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag. However, this writer is still left in wonderment that such a monster, from the cesspool of American fascism, would arise in our own lifetimes, at the centre of empire, even as we have always been acutely aware of the very nature of American political culture, which has always been fascistic at its core. We are left to wrestle with the internal contradictions.

1,398 responses to “Fascism – The Capture of the Republican Party by TRUMP”


  1. @ John August 29, 2020 11:57 PM “Five of us from Hike Barbados went to Machu Picchu back in 2001…. the doctor as he wanted to see what effect being over 10,000 feet would have on his body.”

    When I went up to 10,000 feet I followed the advice of the indigenous people and drank coco tea, tea made from the leaf from which cocaine is made. No altitude sickness. No cocaine high either. If the indigenous people have lived above 10,000 feet for tens of thousands of years surely they know what works.

    No I did not become addicted. Never took coca before nor since. Never desired it. Was tempted to bring home some of the coca tea leaves to see how they would work on my body at 300 feet above sea level but I value my freedom too much.
    And John it is evil to attempt to justify the evil done to George Floyd. I won’t lift a finger against you, but you will be punished in this life and the next.


  2. @GP August 31, 2020 8:39 PM “I HAVE NO FRIENDS OR FAMILY WHO ARE KGB agents.”

    You know that if you had friends or family who were KGB agents they would not, indeed could not tell you, right?

    So in truth you do not know whether you have friends or family who are KGB agents.

    This cannot be refuted.




  3. ARE ANY OF THESE THINGS TRUE?
    I AM SEEKING UNDERSTANDING CAUSE I PLAN TO VOTE FOR JOE

    CNN is the home for fake news. The network barely pretends anymore it’s anything other than an anti-Donald Trump propaganda content mill. And now CNN humiliated itself with one embarrassing image. It’s a running joke at this point that fake news CNN refers to violent riots as “largely peaceful protests.” But despite the images Americans are seeing out of Democrat-run cities of street violence, arson, and looting, fake news CNN maintains the fiction that these are peaceful protesters.

    CNN Politics analyst Chris Cillizza proved his dedication to this fiction when he tweeted out an article he wrote claiming Trump calling protests “riots” proved his desperation. Accompanying the tweet was an image featuring a Biblical fire engulfing a building during one of these “protests” Cillizza claimed are not – under any circumstances – riots. Everyone in the fake news media understands that these riots are damaging Joe Biden.

    Those are Joe Biden supporters burning down buildings, attacking police, and shooting Trump supporters in the streets of Democrat-run cities. Democrats have tried to pretend the riots don’t exist.That strategy is no longer tenable. Even fake news CNN host Don Lemon publicly stated that the riots are hurting Joe Biden in the polls.

    That’s why Biden will now blame Donald Trump for Joe Biden’s voters rioting in the streets and that the only way to stop Joe Biden’s voters from burning down cities is to elect Joe Biden President. And you can expect the fake news media to pivot on a dime from claiming there is no such thing as riots to now claiming the riots are out of control and it is all Donald Trump’s fault.


  4. Lawson,

    On the contrary, as I told you before, I was runner up in a cute baby contest in England and had two photographers ask to photograph me when I was eighteen. I said no.
    Don’t like that sort of thing. Never heard my face called anything other than pretty. My gloss has worn off some as I am no longer a spring chicken but people think I am younger than I am. I hear I still look like “I have some drinks in the bottle.” Nobody suggesting any bag for me. AND my cosmetologist is still drawing her clients’ attention to my smooth and clear milk chocolate face. Not a blemish. No hint of a wrinkle. No make-up necessary. No moisturiser. No nothing. Just me!

    Is it a habit in your family to ask your ugly ass women to wear bags? Your women tend to have no lips. They get even thinner as they age. They disappear into their mouths. I hate that.

    My lips need no botox and my face needs no facelift. That is mostly for your kind.


  5. Miracles happening daily, I believe that COVID 19 only kill about 100 people, Herman Cain still tweeting expect to see him in Kenosha with Trump


  6. Chump defending a murderer. Lookie. If that boy was black, he would have been gunned down by the police forthwith.

    The US President supports white teenagers parade around murdering people. But this is how he treats brown children and toddlers.

    Separated from their parents. In cages.

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/In4kqvNpWTI7bbjgBKMpt4BIRws=/0x0:2048×1152/920×0/filters:focal(0x0:2048×1152):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11558263/42831734412_0a71cde699_k.jpg

    Crimes against humanity. Hitler lovers.


  7. Donna, never mind Lawson, his comment at LawsonAugust 31, 2020 3:51 PM, clearly misogynistic, just as the right wing usually are, shows that there is little substance to his arguments, just rhetoric and insult.

    Sound familiar? He has shown his colours quite clearly. The only thing is, why does he not run off to the US, rather than live off of the social democratic policies in Canada?

    Hypocrite knows where his bread is buttered.


  8. Cuhdear BajanAugust 31, 2020 9:13 PM

    @ John August 29, 2020 11:57 PM “Five of us from Hike Barbados went to Machu Picchu back in 2001…. the doctor as he wanted to see what effect being over 10,000 feet would have on his body.”

    When I went up to 10,000 feet I followed the advice of the indigenous people and drank coco tea, tea made from the leaf from which cocaine is made. No altitude sickness. No cocaine high either. If the indigenous people have lived above 10,000 feet for tens of thousands of years surely they know what works.

    No I did not become addicted. Never took coca before nor since. Never desired it. Was tempted to bring home some of the coca tea leaves to see how they would work on my body at 300 feet above sea level but I value my freedom too much.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No cocoa leaves at Kilimanjaro (19,308 feet), or Aconcagua (22,838 feet), or Mt. McKinley (20,310), or Everest Base Camp (~18,000 feet).

    Some of the others in the tour group at Macchu Picchu chewed the leaves and drank the tea but our doctor friend had bigger ideas and planned be at Everest Peak for his 60th Birthday.

    Highest elevation on the 4 day trek was 14,000 feet.

    If your haemoglobin levels are high, and you have no underlying cardiovascular conditions, and you spend some time acclimatizing and your body can take it no sweat.

    Our doctor friend’s method of getting us acclimatized in Peru was first get to Cuzco (~10,000 feet), then spend a day at Pisaq, then do the 4 day hike.

    For himself he planned to climb the highest peak on every continent (which he did) until finally he did Mount Everest.

    But his body was sending him warning signals which he recognized so his knowledge put an end to that dream.

    Plus, his family laid down the law … so no Everest.

    People who are indigenous to the areas are also genetically adapted to the area.

    But some foreigners will succumb and their bodies will be starved of oxygen.

    They will get weak and be unable to support their body weight (like George Floyd) and if they do not get treatment they will die (like George Floyd).

    I guess the differential between the lower atmospheric pressure and their blood pressure is sufficient to force fluid build up.

    Fentanyl probably did it for George Floyd.

    He probably did not even know he was dying and might just have faded away.

    His encounter with the police would then have been when they arrived with the ambulance to investigate his death.


  9. Cuhdear BajanAugust 31, 2020 9:13 PM

    And John it is evil to attempt to justify the evil done to George Floyd. I won’t lift a finger against you, but you will be punished in this life and the next.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The evil appears to have been done by the suppliers of the drug but it is not my job to judge.

    You and others should let Caesar apply the laws of the land.

    Trust that a higher hand will have the final word.


  10. SargeantAugust 31, 2020 11:43 PM

    Miracles happening daily, I believe that COVID 19 only kill about 100 people, Herman Cain still tweeting expect to see him in Kenosha with Trump

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    CDC saying now that 94% of the 160K COVID deaths reported on had underlying conditions.

    6% had COVID only.

    6% of 160K 9,600.

    George Floyd had Cardiovascular disease.

    George Floyd took a fatal Fentanyl dose.

    George Floyd had COVID.

    George Floyd had a knee applied to the back of his neck

    What did George Floyd die from?

    COVID, Cardiovascular disease, drug overdose, or did the police kill him?.


  11. If a person has an underlying condition, contracted COVID 19 and died the reason for death was not caused by the virus? Is this your point?


  12. Correct

    The following are the top underlying medical conditions linked with COVID-19 deaths.

    Influenza and pneumonia
    Respiratory failure
    Hypertensive disease
    Diabetes
    Vascular and unspecified dementia
    Cardiac Arrest
    Heart failure
    Renal failure
    Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events – FENTANYL PERHAPS
    Other medical conditions


  13. If the person did not contract covid 19 chances they would still be alive living with the comorbidity?


  14. CDC estimates 400,000 people are at risk of reduced lung function after 911.

    19 years later along comes a virus, COVID-19 which targets the lungs.

    There is also the existence of the opioid epidemic.

    Some of the drugs used reduce lung function.

    CDC needs to look at the data for those who had underlying issues and relate that data to 911 and the opioid epidemic.


  15. Carry on smartly.

    IQ is not EQ.


  16. It is estimated that over 400,000 people were exposed to toxic contaminants, risks of traumatic injury, and physically and emotionally stressful conditions in the days, weeks and months following the attacks. Symptoms of 9/11 conditions include chronic cough, shortness of breath, sinus congestion, certain cancers, stress related disorders, and depression among the many other symptoms and conditions. Currently, over 72,000 responders and survivors receive care from the WTC Health Program, which was created under the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010.

    https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2015/09/11/9-11-2015/


  17. Yanks were more upset about the destruction of the Twin Towers and their pride than people who died on 11th September 2001

    Jeff Prager is a Conspiracy theorist like the Trump who believes nukes and drones were used for 911 false flag

    Candace Owens works for Jeff Prager at Prager-U and is a black woman married to a racist Brit Brexit + Blexit

    Blacks rioting are Gods Creation protesting killing of Gods Creation by the White Devils in Babylon


  18. ‘Miracles happening daily, I believe that COVID 19 only kill about 100 people, Herman Cain still tweeting expect to see him in Kenosha with Trump”

    You sent me searching for afterlife tweets by Herman Cain and I found this statement on an article
    ‘On Sunday, however, it again made headlines, for sending out a tweet, which has since been deleted, reading, “It looks like the virus is not as deadly as the mainstream media first made it out to be,” with a link to the conservative political website the Western Journal.’

    If it wasn’t so disrespectful it would be funny.


  19. David,

    You can let the police know that John supports that anyone with a comorbidity may be shot on sight. According to John, the comorbidity means that they will die anyway, so the bullet is irrelevant. So the police options have increased by a wide margin.


  20. Crusoe,

    Yup! The reference to paper bags comes from the idea that a woman is so ugly that a man has to put a paper bag over her head in order to get an erection to have sex with her.

    The first impulse of these Right Wingers is to refer to a woman’s looks as a measure of her worth. He has made reference to my weight and now my face. All this without ever seeing me.

    Now how could that bother me?

    Just putting him in his place as it is far more likely that the paper bag is on the nightstand at the other side of his bed.


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  22. Trust that a higher power got this!

    Really? What does that mean exactly?

    They can figure EVERYTHING OUT but they cannot figure out what Jesus would say on seeing the authorities representative with his knee on the neck of a prostrate, cuffed and helpless “thief” while casually posing for the cameras with his hand in his pocket!

    Perhaps he would have passed by on the other side????

    But we know that there are many situations that are not explicitly mentioned by Jesus. Every day Christians have to extrapolate from the basic commands of Jesus to come up with the “what would Jesus do” approach popularised by Evangelical Christians.

    Did Jesus decry homosexuality? I will refresh my memory and return later today.


  23. So…. Matthew 19:5 says that God created them male and female but we know that there are hermaphrodites born male AND female so…..


  24. Did Jesus decry homosexuality?

    HE DID NOT NEED TO DO SO BECAUSE THE JEWS WOULD HAVE KNOWN
    Leviticus 18:22
    “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.”
    (NLT)
    Leviticus 20:13
    “If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have
    committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.”
    (NLT)
    THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE KNOWN THE RECORDS OF THE INCIDENTS IN
    Genesis 19:1-11 Judges 19:16-24 INTER ALIA

    RE I will refresh my memory and return later today.
    LET ME HELP YOU THERE

    THE FOLLOWING NT SCRIPTURES ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOMOSEXUALITY

    Romans 1:18-32
    But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their
    wickedness…. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And
    they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and
    confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious,
    ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.
    So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and
    degrading things with each other’s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped
    and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.
    That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural
    way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal
    sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men,
    and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
    Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let
    them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed,
    hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters
    of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents.
    They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God’s
    justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they
    encourage others to do them, too.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11
    Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves.
    Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or
    practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat peoplenone of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed;
    you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and
    by the Spirit of our God.

    1 Timothy 1:8-10
    Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid
    down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and
    profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who
    practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ….

    Jude 7
    And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality
    and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the
    eternal fire of God’s judgment.


  25. CrusoeSeptember 1, 2020 5:43 AM

    David,

    You can let the police know that John supports that anyone with a comorbidity may be shot on sight. According to John, the comorbidity means that they will die anyway, so the bullet is irrelevant. So the police options have increased by a wide margin.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I keep remembering these words from Psalm 91.

    How can eleven thousand succumb to a pestilence beside a person who has made the Lord his/her habitation with no evil befalling that person?

    What is the mechanism?

    Is there one that a human can understand?

    5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

    6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

    7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

    8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

    9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

    10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

    11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.


  26. If the person did not contract covid 19 chances they would still be alive living with the comorbidity
    UNTRUE AND A VERY STUPID AND PUERILE BIDENESQUE NON SECQUITUR

    PRIOR TO COVID 19, PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE COMORBITIES LISTED BY THE CDC AND JOHN, AND HAVE DONE SO FOR EONS, AND WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CONTINUE TO DO SO, COVID OR NO COVID

    THIS IS SOUND DOCTRINE THAT CAN NOT BE REFUTED

    A PROPER PERUSAL OF EITHER ROBBINS OR RUBINS OR ANDERSON (leading Pathology texts) WILL INDICATE THIS

    MANY FOLK WHO CONTACTED COVID BUT HAD NO COMORBIDITY HAVE SURVIVED


  27. Donna wrote ” So…. Matthew 19:5 says that God created them male and female but we know that there are hermaphrodites born male AND female so…”

    I always thought that hermaphroditic humans do not exist. There are females with the internal reproductive organs and external male genitalia. These humans are still female though.


  28. Steuspe


  29. RE According to John, the comorbidity means that they will die anyway,

    EXACTLY! I AM VERY SURPRISED THAT YOU DONT KNOW THIS SIMPLE UNESCAPABLE FACT!

    AND IT IS NOT “According to John”, AFTER ALL IS IT NOT WRITTEN TWICE IN EZEKIEL 18 THAT “THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL DIE?
    IS IT NOT WRITTEN IN HEBREWS 9 THAT IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MAN ONCE TO DIE
    OR IN ROMANS 6 THAT THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH?


  30. PING PONG
    BOTH GENESIS 1:27 AND Matthew 19:5 says that God created them male and female
    SO CALLED HERMAPHRODITISM IN HUMANS IS THE RESULT OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS A CONGENITAL ERROR OF METABOLISM, DUE TO INEFFECTIVE ENZYMES BEING EXPRESSED OR THE FAILURE OF THE EXPRESSION OF ENZYMES DURING EMBRYOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT

    I HAVE PRESENTED DETAILED STELLAR POWERPOINTS ON THIS SUBJECT ON BU IN THE PAST TO EXPLAIN THIS EMBRYOLOGICAL DEFECT

    NOTE THAT TRUE HERMAPHRODITISM IS MANIFESTED IN SOME PLANTS AND IN SOME LOWER ANIMALS. THE FEW PSEUDO HERMAPHRODITES IN HUMANS ARE UNABLE TO REPRODUCE AS FAR AS I KNOW


  31. George Floyd was saying he could not breathe before he ended up on the ground.

    An officer is not trained to differentiate one cause of inability to breathe from another.

    All he can do is call an ambulance and let those who know do so.

    Here is a youtube guide.

    According to this there are four different sounds each with a different cause.

    The best I can identify is wheezing because in the time I have been alive I have occasionally had bad flus which have affected my lungs and somebody has remarked on the sound as wheezing.

    So, have a listen and you will realise this is out of most people’s league.


  32. Can you tell from listening to George Floyd speaking what if any abnormal lung sounds were coming from him?


  33. JOHN
    THAT IS A VERY GOOD TEACHING VIDEO

    IN 2005 WHILE TEACHING IN CURACOA I PUT ON A SEMINAR ON PULMONOLOGY FOR THE STUDENTS AND THE ANATOMY TEACHER WHO WAS A SURGEON FROM KENYA MADE A MOST INTERESTING STATEMENT.

    HE SAID ” BEWARE OF THE SILENT CHEST!”

  34. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, there is a basic cadence to life which I suppose most people grasp but deliberately choose to distort …

    We all know that if a person is painfully suffering with stage 4 cancer as an example that any “Dr. Kervorkian” intervention before their naturally exhaled and expected final breath changes their cause of death (legally) to possibly murder… or the term that gained currency “assisted suicide”.

    Now that is simplistic as a comparative analysis to cause of death re cov-19 by making the simple legal and medical point which is accepted dogma: having an underlying co-morbidity which is a contributing factor to your death cannot negate a final act that directly causes your death (legally speaking).

    So putting that in context of this overhyped disinformation debate on the CDC data… it is also known dogma that comorbidities which contribute to your ill-health can be exacerbated by another new factor of illness which more rapidly leads to your demise …. and thus causes your death.

    In the case of that stage 4 cancer patient it would be absurd – in my view – to note their cause of death to a recent cov19 infection … I expect no cases of that type to be in the CDC report.

    But clearly if the patient was undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor and contracted cov19 which caused complications resulting in their death then that case is listed as a cov19 cause of death with cancer also mentioned on their death certification .

    That’s the basic status of that 92%- 94%. This is badly overhyped by people who KNOW better…. a fundamentally simple cadence as I noted but intelligent folks are creating annoying dissonance!

    They distort and just simply present absurd illogic.

    They know there are primary causes of death and secondary causes or a contributing factor like the fentanyl drug thing with Floyd.

    They know that contracting cov19 can exacerbate existing illnesses and lead to another condition, let’s say respiratory failure or a heart attack…

    They know that in death there will be what was the immediate cause of death, but that there will always be the next lines of causation.

    If cov19 precipitated or CAUSED the cardiac problem then isn’t cov19 a definitive and clear reason for the death!

    They know this basic stuff and yet
    they distort and mek sport!


  35. @Dee Word

    The blogmaster does not have the appetite to address nonsense. You are free to do in your usual detailed manner. Note the blogmaster did not use the word prolix. LOL


  36. RE But clearly if the patient was undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor and contracted cov19 which caused complications resulting in their death then that case is listed as a cov19 cause of death with cancer also mentioned on their death certification .
    1 – WHY WOULD ANYONE BE undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor?
    2 YOUR ARGUMENT IS RUBBISH! AND INDICATES ONCE AGAIN THAT YOU ARE A MEDICAL ILLITERATE, AND TOTALLY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE! AND A SOURCE OF IMMENSE MIRTH

    IT IS WELL KNOW THAT MANY VERY ELDERLY MEN HAVE CARCINOMA OF THE PROSTATE AT AUTOPSY. IF ON AUTOPSY ALL THE FEATURES OF CARDIAC PATHOLOGY IS SEEN, IS THE DIAGNOSIS ON THE MEDICAL CERTIFICATE IS CARCINOMA OF THE PROSTATE?

    RE it is also known dogma that comorbidities which contribute to your ill-health can be exacerbated by another new factor of illness which more rapidly leads to your demise …. and thus causes your death.

    DOGMA IS SPOUTED BY MEDICAL ILLITERATES LIKE YOU
    I HAVE NEVER READ DOGMA IN PATHOLOGY TEXTS

    comorbidities which contribute to your ill-health can be exacerbated by another new factor of illness which more rapidly leads to your demise …. and thus causes your death.

    THIS IS DEBATABLE DOGMA AS YOU CALL IT
    IDEALLY CAUSE OF DEATH SHOULD BE DETERMINED AT AUTOPSY
    AMAZING WHAT IS FOUND AT AUTOPSY
    AGAIN YOU ARE A MEDICAL ILLITERATE, AND TOTALLY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE! AND A SOURCE OF IMMENSE MIRTH

    YOU ARE INDEED A BLIND GUIDE WHO STRAINS AT A GNAT WHILE SWALLOWING A CAMEL
    KEEP IT GOING THE CRICKET IS A BIT ONE SIDED………AS IS RESPONDING TO YOUR MEDICAL ILLITERACY


  37. HERE YOU GO AGAIN

    RE In the case of that stage 4 cancer patient it would be absurd – in my view – to note their cause of death to a recent cov19 infection …
    IN YOUR VIEW IS CORRECT
    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT SUCH A PATIENT DID NOT DIE FROM THE INFLAMMATORY RESPONSE SEEN IN CYTOKINE STORM?
    THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE AUTOPSIES DUMMY!
    I expect no cases of that type to be in the CDC report.
    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? WHAT IS THE FACTUAL OR SCIENTIFIC OR PROCEDURAL BASIS OF YOUR ASSUMPTION?

    RE That’s the basic status of that 92%- 94%. SO NOW YOU ARE AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST?

    This is badly overhyped by people who KNOW better….

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE KNOW? YOU ARE DEITY ALSO?
    a fundamentally simple cadence as I noted but intelligent folks are creating annoying dissonance! BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FIT INTO YOUR NARRATIVE?

    RE They distort and just simply present absurd illogic. DO YOU MEAN LIKE YOUR ABSURD ILLOGIC.
    YOU ARE NO ADVOCATING GIVING CHEMOTHERAPY FOR BENIGN TUMOURS
    CAN YOU GET MORE ILLOGICAL AND IGNORANT THAN THAT

    RE They know there are primary causes of death and secondary causes or a contributing factor like the fentanyl drug thing with Floyd.

    DUMMY THE FACTS ARE THAT FLOYD WAS COMPLAINING THAT HE COULD NOT BREATHE BEFORE THE POLICEMEN’S MALFEASANCE

    WE NOW KNOW POST MORTEM THAT HE HAD PLEURAL EFFUSIONS OR FLUID IN HIS LUNGS.
    WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF SUCH AN ABUNDANCE OF FLUID IN HIS LUNGS?
    HE CERTAINLY DID NOT GET IT FROM ASPHYIATION!

    JOHN’S OPINION THAT YOU SEEK TO RUBBISH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE DEFINITIVE POST MORTEM FINDINGS RATHER THAN YOUR PREFERRED “DOGMA” WHICH IS FUELLED BY YOUR PROFOUND IGNORANCE AND MEDICAL ILLITERACY………….TO BE “PROLIX!”


  38. If / when Jesus came / comes, I am sure that he would not / never ever be friends with the Doctor GP / wack ass preacher / teacher for obvious reasons such as him being an obnoxious Mr. Know It All that no one here likes either and is a waste of space, disgrace to the human race.

    He would have much more important and better things to do.

    Jesus Dread
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOL4eGWXn4w


  39. RE If cov19 precipitated or CAUSED the cardiac problem then isn’t cov19 a definitive and clear reason for the death!
    HOW CAN YOU TELL DEFINITIVELY EXCEPT AT AUTOPSY
    RE They know this basic stuff and yet they distort and mek sport!
    YES I DO SO THAT IS HOW I KNOW THAT YOU ARE BRIMBLING

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I NEVER DISTORT OR MAKE SPORT ABOUT THE MEDICINE I LEARNED HAVING ATTENDED MED SCHOOL TWICE—-FIRST AS LEARNER AND THEN AS TEACHER

    YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE

    RE The blogmaster does not have the appetite to address nonsense.
    THE TRUTH IS THAT THE BLOGMASTER IS ALSO A BONE FIDE MEDICAL ILLITERATE AND CAN NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THE PATHOLOGICAL CONCEPTS HERE EXPOUSED

    RE You are free to do in your usual detailed manner.
    YES HE WAS VERY DETAILED IN HIS DOGMA AND ERROR AS HE PRESENTED HIS DOGMA
    FANCY ADVOCATING PATIENTS “undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor!”

    STEUPSE!


  40. COME ON DPD

    RUN IN AGAIN
    GIVE US SOME MORE OF YOUR POOR PITHY PITIFUL PATHETIC PABLUM ABOUT “YOUR VIEW” OF PATHOLOGY.

    PERHAPS YOU CAN WRITE A CHAPTER IN THE NEXT EDITION OF ROBBINS RUBINS OR ANDERSON


  41. Lol Donna ya know all cute babies look like winston churchill, I have a buddy pushing 70 and he is wrinkle free….but his skin is stretched to the max…just saying.

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, truly neither do I have the appetite for the rather inane interpretations of men who are intelligent as determined by basic standards of academic achievement… but we all have our peccadilloes — mine is dueling with fabulists and BS artists! 🙂

    So here goes ..a MEDICAL doctor interpreted the simple statement:“But clearly if the patient was undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor…” with the sarcastic retort…

    “1 – WHY WOULD ANYONE BE undergoing a cancer treatment for a benign tumor?[…] 2 YOUR ARGUMENT IS RUBBISH! AND INDICATES ONCE AGAIN THAT YOU ARE A MEDICAL ILLITERATE, AND TOTALLY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE! AND A SOURCE OF IMMENSE MIRTH”

    David, I repeat a MEDICAL doctor said that. SMH!

    Treatment for ANY illness starts with an examination … at some point you are giving a diagnosis of what the doctor believes is ailing you… if that initial diagnosis is cancer, then tests are completed to determine the status of the cancer… but from moment one you have initiated a course towards being TREATED… not so!

    Thus, anyone who has attended a doctor (and definitely a doctor himself 🙂 ) would know that before the cancer test results are completed that its rather simple (dogmatic, even) English to say “I am undergoing treatment for cancer’!

    Now, @Mr Blogmaster here definitely this is being prolix!…. The dictionary DEFINES “treatment” simply as: The act, manner, or method of handling or dealing with someone or something.

    Now sir if a DOCTOR comes here an interprets the remark of TREATMENT for a benign tumor as he did above… when CLEARLY there was a precise comparative emphasis to the “medical handling or dealing with someone” with FATAL stage 4 cancer, wouldn’t you call him an annoying troll who displays an idiotic penchant for frivolity!

    I gone here, cause one fool should not loiter at two-fools party…. Lata!


  43. THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE DPD IS THAT I AM A DOCTOR NOT YOU, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW AS MUCH AS YOU THINK YOU DO

    YOU DO NOT GIVE CANCER TREATMENT FOR BENIGN TUMOURS

    WHEREAS YOUR dictionary DEFINES “treatment” simply as: The act, manner, or method of handling or dealing with someone or something. MEDICINE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

    TREATMENT IS DEFINITIVE THERAPY NOT The act, manner, or method of handling or dealing with someone or something
    AND YOU DO NOT GIVE CANCER TREATMENT FOR BENIGN TUMOURS

    I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN 46 YEARS
    THERE ARE MEDICAL TEXTS AND PROTOCOLS FOR TREATMENT

    YOU HAVE INDEED GIVEN US SOME MORE OF YOUR POOR PITHY PITIFUL PATHETIC PABLUM ABOUT “YOUR VIEW” OF PATHOLOGY. AND MEDICAL THERAPY

    I HAVE HERE A LASS WITH A BREAST LUMP
    I REFER HER FOR BIOPSY
    THAT IS NOT TREATMENT WE CALL THAT MANAGEMENT

    TREATMENT MIGHT INVOLVE MASTERLY INACTIVITY DEPENDING ON THE RESULTS OF THE BIOPSY OR EXCISION OF ANY BENIGN TUMOUR FOUND

    BUT NOT CANCER TREATMENT DUMMY!

    CANCER TREATMENT IS MUCH MORE INVOLVED

    I AM WONDERING IF YOU DONT NEED CANCER TREATMENT FOR YOUR BETZPAENIC BRAIN
    PERHAPS THE METAPLASIA HAS NOW ADVANCED TO ANAPLASIA!


  44. As a doctor does it not piss you off that they refer to bidens wife as dr bden


  45. IF SHE HAS EARNED HER PhD, THAT IS HER TITLE


  46. dr of education wow they just make her sound like fauci or christian barnard

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