Submitted by Tee White (article submitted to the Nation newspaper)

Dear Editor

I was shocked to read your article in the Nation of 18 June, which reported that Minister of Culture, John King, is opposed to ‘dumping Nelson’.

Mr King is, of course, right that everybody can form their own personal opinions about any issue, including that of racism. However, the problem is that as Minister of Culture, he represents the people of Barbados. How would it reflect on our country if in international meetings he is defending the maintenance of statues glorifying racists and mass murderers even as countries all over the world are removing these offensive objects from the public space?

Mr King says that he has been reading the cabinet papers from previous discussions of this matter but demonstrates a shocking lack of understanding of the issue. I will pass without comment his preposterous statement that removing symbols that glorify racism, such as Nelson’s statue, amounts to visiting the horrors of chattel slavery on others. He appears to think that taking a stand against racism amounts to excluding non-Africans from the history of Barbados. According to this logic, every Bajan of non-African descent supports anti-African racism and the glorification of its architects. This is a terrible insult to those Bajans of non-African descent who strongly oppose racism and also demand the removal of statues and monuments that glorify it. Is John King not aware that the earliest rebellions in Barbados saw enslaved Africans and indentured Irish people fighting together against the oppressive powers of that time? Does he not see across the whole globe that millions of people of all nationalities and colours are taking a united stand against racism, and those who seek to glorify it?

The thing is that the foundation of racism, upon which modern Barbados was established, cannot be incorporated into any new Barbados in which we simply see each other as human beings because racism is opposed exactly to this concept and insists on categorising people into superior and inferior groups. That is why today, people are demanding that racism has no place in the modern world. You cannot defend racism and its symbols and at the same time claim to be against it. Would anyone take Germany seriously if it claimed to be against Nazism while maintaining statues and other monuments glorifying Hitler and the other leaders of the Nazi regime?

I wonder if Mr King’s comments about the parliament building, the wharf and elsewhere are serious comments. If they are, he really does have no understanding of this issue. Wasn’t Barbados itself around during slavery and playing a part in it? What are we to do with it? Throw it in the sea? The demand is very clear. Statues and monuments are some of the ways in which society honours individuals from the past. Those that glorify racists and people involved in the commission of crimes against humanity should be taken down from the public space because they are a statement that the society honours racism and crimes against humanity in the here and now.

There are, of course, many other issues in Barbados that need to be addressed in order to build a new and inclusive society that works for all Barbadians. However, we will make no headway with these if we are unable to confront and overcome the monster of racism that still disfigures our island. The taking down of Nelson is a small step in this effort.

On this issue, Minister King is quite simply wrong.

Read Minister John King’s article published in the Nation newspaper 18 June 2020


 

King not on board with dumping Nelson

MINISTER OF CULTURE John King is not in support of the wholesale removal of Lord Nelson’s statue in The City.

He told the media yesterday his opinions on Nelson and race on the whole were personal and he would stick by them, even if they cost him.

“There are a number of papers I am now studying, from about 2009, on discussions various Cabinets would have had on this issue, but on a personal note – and I know what I am about to say is going to upset a lot of people – I would agree that if you’re talking about Heroes Square,there are validations to the varied opinions. But I will not – and it could cost me everything – be a part or party of trying to do to others what we say has been done to us,” he said.

Calls for the removal of the statue were made again during last Saturday’s protest march through Bridgetown in support of the Black Lives Matter movement in the United Sates and across the world.

King said he did not believe in “stripping down everything and throwing it away”, saying there was a history before slavery and it was now time for a new mindset.

“If you are saying that during enslavement and the colonisation process, that our history, culture and way of life were wiped out and we came into places like the Americas as minorities, why would you now turn around and advocate to do the same thing to somebody else? The discussion we should be having is, if we want to remove this statue, where do we put it?

“How do we recognise the collective history of Barbados is not relegated solely to Barbadians of Afro descent? How do we also incorporate the history of the indigenous people who were here [first]? How do you incorporate

all of the groups that make up Barbados? Let us look at these things for what they are and use them to inspire ourselves to change our prejudices and look at each other as human beings,” he urged.

King said the Parliament Buildings

and the Wharf were around during slavery and played a part in it, asking if those too should be thrown away. He said the Nelson statue should be utilised to the advantage of Barbados while not disadvantaging anyone.

As for the Black Lives Matter movement, King, who as a calypsonian and Pic-O-De-Crop monarch performed social commentaries such as

Fool’s Paradise, How Many More? and I Want A Plantation, said he was accustomed to speaking out against social injustice on his own and would only join any group if and when he felt it necessary.

“I’ve always been advocating against racism, as an entertainer performing overseas and from growing up in England, so I know it well. What is going on in the Unites States has been going on for eons but it is now easier to see due to social media.

“[However] there are other issues right here I don’t hear people talking about, issues some people don’t want to protest, such as classism, which is also a knee on people’s necks. We need to talk about the violence in our own communities . . . and I don’t hear anyone talking about the history of the people we call ‘red legs’ in St John. I hope our future generations find themselves in a different place,” he said.

(CA)

 

598 responses to “Minister John King is Wrong”

  1. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “I seem to recall one blogger had difficulty with referring to some Bajans as black. ‘Pelau’ was the way he referred to Bajans.”

    A VISIBILY BLACK MAN and a BU brother who cannot identify with being black nor African, the social engineering and breeding skills successfully IMPLEMENTED with the intent to keep the African descended CONFUSED…

    Happy Father’s Day to all the dudes on BU…may as well include everyone since i already got in a shitload of trouble because i forgot all about it…

  2. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Happy Father’s Day to all the dudes on BU…and ALL THE MOTHERS…too many, who are FORCED to act the roles of fathers…


  3. Then why is the Orange Turd making excuses and blaming protesters for the empty blue seats I am seeing on NEWS MEDIA. Maybe Faux News did not show the crowd, but MSNBC sure did!

    PS. Did Faux News show them hastily dismantling the stage set up for the overflow rally that never was? MSNBC sure did!

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  4. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    BUT THERE IS HOPE…we must NEVER FORGET that Seattle is a predominiantly white city that is now SETTING THE STAGE for self determination and autonomy not only for all Americans but also to free Black Americans from a system to keep them DEVALUED…..

    I too was shocked to find out this is move away from destroying black lives is also happening with a smaller movement being vocal and setting an example in hell hole for Black people… white Arkansas..

    “HARRISON, Ark. — I arrived here 10 days after George Floyd was killed by a Minneapolis police officer, sparking massive protests around the country. The historic Harrison town square, with its memorial to the Confederate war dead, was already closed to traffic as I drove into the area. Civilian men with military-style rifles and sidearms peered into approaching cars as if it were a border checkpoint.

    Armed men and a few women, some carrying American or Trump 2020 flags, were posted up around the square and on rooftops, waiting. A few patrolled the sidewalks as if it were an insurgent village. It was eerily quiet. I started to think maybe the protesters weren’t actually coming.

    Then a source texted “on the move to the square,” and I started recording video. I grew up in Arkansas and have reported from this town for years, and I was almost stunned by what I witnessed next. Coming down the hill toward the courthouse was a lone Black man, dressed in tactical gear, wearing a green military backpack and carrying a shotgun strapped with bullets. Marching behind him was a large group, almost all white people, waving protest signs and chanting “I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe, silence is violence.”

    Here was a Black Lives Matter rally in one of the country’s most notorious havens for white supremacists.”


  5. Woke up this morning and stayed in bed.
    I asked my wife if i get breakfast in bed today. All i heard was “You had better get up”
    🙂 Could have been worse… this is around the time MIL usually visit but COVID-19 has her grounded and I doubt her broom can get her to the USA 🙂
    Don’t take that last one seriously…. I love my MIL
    Happy fathers day to all in Barbados.
    Have a great day Barbados


  6. TheOGazerts

    I am the same colour as my black friends and in the brown paper bag test to get into the white-black parties, I match the brown paper bag and would be a borderline plus one into the vip section.

    My idea of an UK Based Reparations Investment Trust with BlackRock worlds biggest asset manager has gone over the heads of the Bu folks, where a fund could be set up as the Official Receivers of firms slave reparation monies such as NatWest Aviva Lloyds of London, Barclays must be following too sometime soon. Harold the FT Editor is not doping a pick up. UK Reparations Investment Trust should link up with US Trust as the is more dosh there and more firms involved in historical slavery since inception of the nation such as food railway etc. There is also more black investors and black wealth and many Black superstars are singing from same hymn sheet from Hollywood to Rap. As Jay Z said “I am not a businessman. I am a Business, Man”

    Did anyone read the Book of Revelations as suggested by the Self appointed Reverend of the BU flock as it brings blessings to those who do and you can see the parallels between the book of revelations and what even the little children and those with eyes to see ears to hear and lips to speak can see in these revelation times in mystery babylon. I know that only fools go to Church on Sundays and many others are intuitively more spiritual than the reverend. To quote Bunny Peter and Bob “Because I feel like bombing a church. Now, now that you know that the preacher is lying. So who’s going to stay at home. When, when the freedom fighters are fighting”

  7. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    This maritime museum thing was first Owen Arthur’s idea. He had also promised to reform the public service and carry us to republic status. Last I heard he was a list pilot and working for some body he once called a despot and accused of being accountable for some party’s funds.
    Perhaps he can replace Nelson.Perfect choice.

  8. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    Should be LIAT pilot not list. My apologies.


  9. Remix Today is International Yoga Day
    You should all do this Yoga too so the world is in tune together as one


  10. “There are a number of papers I am now studying, from about 2009, on discussions various Cabinets would have had on this issue, but on a personal note – and I know what I am about to say is going to upset a lot of people – I would agree that if you’re talking about Heroes Square,there are validations to the varied opinions. But I will not – and it could cost me everything – be a part or party of trying to do to others what we say has been done to us,” he said.

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    Back in 1999 when the furor erupted over the renaming of Trafalgar Square and removal of Nelson O$A was PM and Ms. Mockley was Deputy PM if I remember right.

    Both were in cabinet.

    Wonder if the Systems Poll from back then informed their thinking?

    Polls usually are important to politicians.

    My recollection is that the press was full of the issue so there would be a record there as well as in cabinet papers.

    Since then and with some regularity there are stabs at having Nelson removed all of which have so far failed.

    This latest one seems to have something to do with George Floyd’s death in the USA but it is hard to tell if it isn’t just a rehash of past failed attempts.

    Linking George Floyd in the USA in 2020 to Nelson more than two centuries earlier is pushing the envelope.


  11. The Orange Turd is going to kill people worldwide with his biological weapons whenever the airlines launch. I knew that he would kill us eventually. That is why I laugh at those who would have us blog in a bubble. DE BUBBLE BUST!

    Xi may have started it but Trump will finish it.


  12. @John

    Things do not always happen at the first protest. Sometimes it takes many protests and much advocacy to reach the tipping point.


  13. John King and John Knox!

    Both Johnnies sitting down to breakfast of crow on this beautiful Father’s Day.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



  14. Wrong footage as usual, Johnnie!

    Nobody said there weren’t thousands there, just not nearly what was catered for.

    Wonk, wonk!


  15. You can see how Jack Bowman’s / John Knox’s warped mind works – where a bad conception and a false premise is developed and rehashed repeatedly with layers of lies on top of lies like an onion. Only a fool and a stink ass Trump fan would try to push a trope that Nelson is a Hero and George is a Zero and you have to keep peeling away at the layers of lies wasting your time like Jim Crow or John Crow, where they give you a basket to carry water. John is a cling on piece of shit that sticks to the bowl that can never be flushed away and must be scrubbed away with bleach by a professional cleaner.


  16. @ TLSN June 21, 2020 6:47 AM
    “The Negro problem of the USA is no different to the Negro problem that exists in Barbados 2020. How does Barbados integrate its 90% plus black majority population to become prosperous stakeholders in a country in which they have resided for over four centuries? The Negro problem is an international problem.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now, can you see the kind of ‘blackened’ mentality you are up against?
    Should we say thanks to Willie Lynch?

    A mentality fashioned in a crucible made of myopic small-island mindedness brainwashed with the white man’s soap opera of the parody of the Christian religion.

    There are black people who have done whatsoever under the Sun to meet the standards expected of the so-called white man’s world by obeying the rules of the system.

    Men like the same James Baldwin a Christian backslider who, like Paul Robeson, had to flee from persecution and violence resulting from white racism.

    Even today ‘boys’ like Hal Austin and Pete Wick Ham should be able to easily identify with Baldwin’s philosophy and bohemian ‘lifestyle’.

    Should the modern generation of Africa-descended people dishonour the memory of the people who lost their lives in the struggle for the liberation of the mind of the black person; men like Medgar Evers?

    What about Frederick Douglass who was at it from the 19th Century and Marcus Garvey in the first half of the 20th?

    Isn’t Marcus Garvey’s philosophy about ‘black’ economic enfranchisement more relevant to Barbados today than it ever was especially with this 21st Century pandemic of economic opportunities for the black race?

    “You can kill a man but you can’t kill an idea.”


  17. “Linking George Floyd in the USA in 2020 to Nelson more than two centuries earlier is pushing the envelope.”

    The obvious no brainer link which even the dumbest of the dumbest obtuse Trump fan would know is:

    Legacy of 400 Years of Anglo-American White Supremacy Racism invented for justification of brutality of Atlantic Slave Trade and Colonialism that built Global capitalism and funded Industrial Revolution


  18. Ha ha! “A piece of cling on shit that can never be flushed
    …”

    555, if you are responsible for that simile you should be writing poetry. You matched Tron’s brilliance of the “biological weapons of mass destruction”.


  19. Guess Joe Biden’s basement rally was where the folks went.


  20. Please do not turn this blog about Trump. Nobody can accuse the blogmaster of not giving some latitude.


  21. The Goblins were awakened

    Killer Mike from Run the Jewels wants to Run for office. Which may not mean much to you but is big to African Americans which is part of American Culture today. His mummy and daddy were Police but he is sympathetic to brothers and sisters protesting daily.

    Daredevils final fight


  22. >
    But his wife told him “keep singing and dancing fat boy” so he has to do work as a rapper for another 5 years or so.

    here is his #BLACKLIVESMATTER speech that went viral like corona virus across america a few weeks ago

  23. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Lol @David, it’s NEVER about POTUS per se… he simply stirs the potpourri and brings the thick gruel to the top ever so often!

    How can one not respond to a JA saying HE made Emaniciaption Day ‘famous” and not evoke the absurd racially charged overtones.

    How does one not chew on the meaty item that almost on the 100 year anniversary of the Black ‘lynchings’ in Tulsa that we now have a POTUS stoking racial divisiveness smack bang in the same town of that massacre !

    No David it is NEVER about him directly but all of the major issues of the day… You quoted historian Ralph Jemmont on another blog and his important truism speaks here as well… he noted that history recounts a massive backlash for Blacks (in US) whenever they encounter major advances … And this Admin is the whiplash snapback from the Obama advance …

    So to repeat it is thus not about Trump per se and we MUST never lose sight of that… He is but the symbol or vehicle through which the push back and BS flows!


  24. @Dee Word

    You ignore nonsense.


  25. David,

    I thought we had agreed that this thing is interconnected.

    Trump’s empty seats and cancelled overflow rally could very well be a sign that the tide is turning faster than we think.

    The tides flow around the world, they bring the good and the bad with them.

    Trump brought the bad out into the open. The white people of the world are finding they don’t like the bad half as much as they thought they did. And the non whites know that another four years will kill them so it’s now or never.

    I had an idea quite early on that Trump could actually be a blessing in disguise. Now I am convinced he will change the world for the better – unintentionally, of course.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  26. Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV

    My two cents worth on this issue….I remember Minister King’s statements on Starcom Network News and I got a totally different interpretation of what he said regarding the issue….Not actually reading the Nation Newspaper. but going by the extract at the beginning of this blog, it states “MINISTER OF CULTURE John King is NOT in support of the wholesale removal of Lord Nelson’s statue” but then later in SAME article it quotes Mr. King as saying “The discussion we should be having is, IF we want to remove this statue, WHERE do we put it?”. The Nation’s article is contradictory in itself and fully shows the MISINTERPRETATION of King’s comments. To be facetious what does the Nation mean by “not supporting the wholesale removal”…Are they saying Mr King supports the partial removal?…he is supporting only the removal of Nelson’s head or his legs?. The Nation is in the business of selling papers so in my OPINION the article was edited that way to sell “news”.
    My opinion is similar to King but it would be WHEN we remove the statue WHERE will we put it. I don’t support the dumping or destruction of Nelson statue or any statue for that matter. We would just be practicing a form of iconoclasm. That is what ISIS did in Syria and the Taliban in Afghanistan when they defaced and destroyed monuments. It has be given as the reason why the Sphinx in Egypt has had its “african nose” removed. Indeed there where instances in history where countries have been invaded and there artifacts stolen for the original society that built them asking for their return. e.g. the Axum Obelisk in Ethiopia or the “Elgin Marbles” in the UK stolen from Greece. In my opinion moving Nelson or dumping it in the Careenage will solve very little. It would just be vain attempt to erase history. It is why various govts have been lackadaisical towards moving it. It is simply NOT a priority.. …We will still have the REAL issues of racism, classism, police brutality and gov’t malfeasance in a majority black country. This is a country that in the past struggled to even remove the Queen as Head of State. We must be care that if we dump Nelson we wont be dumping the integrity of Barbados with it. If a museum in England wants it we can sell it…or we can go along with the plan of having it moved to another site in Barbados or in the museum.

  27. Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV

    Johnny ma boy…Biden just has to watch Trumpy hang himself daily and wait three months before the election to ramp up his campaign. Trump is an emperor with his “new clothes” dropping down…his supporters accepting every bit of nonsense he says and accepting it as truth, It will get to a point where Trump’s farts will smell like a sewage plant but he will tell his supporters it smells like roses and they will accept it as gospel. That talk about having a million request for tickets for the rally was a joke. He was trying to increase turnout but some of the real people that wanted to go might have asked themselves why risk going to a coronavirus infested arena.

  28. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Re *”You ignore nonsense.’”
    True, @David … always possible when the nonsense talkers are like the Johns of this world but when they lead large western nations we are invariably forced to deal head-on with their nonsense !

    Oh, re the sparse Tulsa campaign crowd… If reports that thousands of teens essentially mamiguyed the system and booked tickets online which they had no plans of using then we need to recognize just how ‘easily’ our surveys and projections can be MANIPULATED by social media/electronic means.

    In real political terms it takes us back to the Cambridge Analytica and Russian troll farms interference in the US 2016 election and shows how freaking scary things really are.

    The campaign thought millions of people were keen to attend when in fact that data was spiked with lots of alluring ‘alcohol’ and got quite a few unsuspecting POTUS folks giddily, embarrassingly drunk to make big fools of themselves.

    We may take glee now but this is really dangerous how easily it was achieved … can we trust ANY poll or survey these days!

  29. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “How does Barbados integrate its 90% plus black majority population to become prosperous stakeholders in a country in which they have resided for over four centuries? The Negro problem is an international problem.”

    The biggest problem Barbados’ majority population have is that they are the ones who GENERATE ALL THE TAXES, ALL THE PENSION MONEY, ALL THE LOANS AND GRANTS…by their very existence THE BLACK MAJORITY IS BARBADOS, all of which should be made available to them to be able to generate THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITES…but all of it is STOLEN by the thieves in the parliament and bar associatioin, the thieves in the judiciary and given to others generation after generation…..given to the same criminal minorities to uplift and enrich themselve and any other thieves that land on the island, some of the criminals in the parliament actually go abroad looking for whites and others TO HELP THEM ROB THEIR OWN PEOPLE…

    the Black population is GENERATIONALLY ROBBED of being stakeholders in the THEIR OWN COUNTRY…that their blood sweat and tears has FUNDED FOR 400 YEARS…ya can’t make it any clearer than that….so the real problem here is the trash that rotated in and out of the parliament every 5 years from 1966 to 2018…the sell outs, the nonprogressives…the self-hating negros calling themselves leaders and lawyers…who know that they maliciously keep historical information from their own people, information that can free their minds, maliciously keep slave laws on the statue books and use them discriminately against the black populatioin to keep them oppressed, maliciously give information to anyone who is not black, against the best interests of their own people, steal their own’s people’s futures and birthrights and sell it to the highest bidder…without fail…for their own self-interest.

    that’s the big problem right there that will not go away unless something is done to STOP IT….TO STOP THEM.


  30. @ Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV June 21, 2020 1:07 PM

    Your interpretation of the Honorable Minister makes a lot of sense to neutral observers like me. It is crystal clear that our government is not following a self-destructive, ideological post-colonialist course, but is acting prudently and reasonably in the interests of all citizens. There are no white and black policies in Barbados, only good and bad.

  31. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    We will have to repeat over and over that NELSON HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BARBADOS…the only history associated with that criminal is that he STARVED BLACK SLAVES in the eastern Caribbean TO DEATH ….BY DESTROYING THEIR FOOD SUPPLY…including the Black slaves in Barbados whom he had a special HATRED FOR….what preserve what….you as*holes.

    i don’t even want to think how many he raped on his brief visits…

    he would have KILLED BOTH YOU AND THE JOHNNIE FROM THE PARLIAMENT ON SIGHT or just beat ya dumb asses to death with great pleasure.

    preserve that..

  32. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    All the BU frauds are doing is advertising to the world just how easy it is to RE-ENSLAVE black bajans..who have no clue of their own history and still don’t understand how they have been lied to by the sell outs in the parliament..

    keep it up…

  33. Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV

    @ WARU Barbados’ history didn’t start in 1966…Nelson was important to Barbados as a Crown Colony of the British Empire….Nelson has no relevance today to a majority black country run by a “black” government. That is why he should be moved but not destroyed. Should we destroy what little Carib and Arawaks artifacts that have been found here because they have no relevance in a post 1966 Barbados?


  34. “It is crystal clear that our government is not following a self-destructive, ideological post-colonialist course, but is acting prudently and reasonably in the interests of all citizens.”

    Government’s role may be to protect the statue, while the peoples role is to protest to pull it down. Government and Police can look the other way while Nelson’s statue is pulled down like Saddam’s and filmed by TV crew for posterity and a slot on Worldwide News promoting the little island in the Caribbean called Barbados. Maybe some sexy girls can walk the Police and Ministers to distract their attention while the people do their calling on their special mission.

  35. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar

    Disgusting and Confused..you totally MISSED the part that the nasty black governments hid the true facts of nelsons history WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BARBADOS…ya may want to find and listen to Trevor Marshall’s video about that and the cult they all used to perpetrate that straight up lie to the Black majority……and the sell out rats in parliament helped the lowlife minority whites PERPETRATE a continuous fraud on their own people when they entered the fraud parliament in 1966…which resonates in the minds of the slaveminded to this day…but that is way above ya head so let’s leave it right there…cause even with the video as evidence ya may still miss the whole point, the blighted plight of the slaveminded..ya should be more concerned about that PACT against their own black people that the thieves in the parliament have with the racist minorities from 1966..since ya obviously can’t understand much else…

    Miller…hear them trying to sound all colonial and sophisticated….400 years later and they STILL don’t understand and more than likely will never learn that they will NEVER be a match for certain INTELLIGENCE…as long as they keep and DON’T GET RID OF that cursed, mentally damaged slave mindset…

    wuh they are not even a match for little ancient me…

    settiing up their own descendants to be enslaved once again….but that’s on them..


  36. Fire marshals total for Trump rally is 6,200 only.

    Wall Street Journal.

    Even if the Trumpians are afraid of Covid it shows he is losing his grip. It means they are not falling for his ridiculous mouthings.

    Hard to do when your mother and father are dying.

  37. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    They don’t be working in the best interests of all citizens when they rob the majority black population to enrich minority racists and thieves though….told yall already ya stupid slave minds are showing the world why all these wrong things are happening on the island….have been for decades after the black colonials were allowed in the parliament, still happening today and with that mindset will continue happening, but luckily, since fools have luck too, now the slime have finally reached their crossroads…but only because of the agitation of the few…

  38. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Nelson was important to Barbados as a Crown Colony of the British Empire”

    Miller…people actually feel i make this utter shite up…now there is UK bending over backwards nearly in half…to remove all these EVIL SYMBOLS OF RACISM from public viewing…because they are seeing the UGLY IN ALL OF THAT THEMSELVES…and it does not bode will for them if they continue to hero worship slavemasters, racists, thieves, rapists and murderers ALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENSLAVEMENT OF AFRICAN PEOPLE….no matter how much they admire their evil ancestor’s handiwork..

    but here is this maybe descendant of the people who were BRUTALIZED…ah hope none was their ancestor, don’t sound like it to me with all the idiocy they are posting…..then again, with that mentality…anyway, claiming how important is the symbol of a hateful piece of shit murderer and genocidal maniac was to Barbados, although the cnut keeps hearing that it was not the case…

    do you see how dangerous lying cults are, their destruction can last for centuries..

  39. Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV

    @ Waru We have in Barbados. The Nelson Mandela Freedom Park, we have the Usain Bolt Sporting Complex…We have the George Washington House. None of these three people have any direct history to Barbados of any REAL SIGNIFICANCE but should we have these names removed?. The point is that Nelson had some significance to the British\Bajan plantocracy THEN as being part of the BRITISH EMPIRE.. I know full well of Nelsons’s INSIGNIFICANCE as part of BARBADOS’s direct history and how he was supposedly significant as part of British History. I knew it long before this recent discussion about Nelson. It is even more reason why i want the statute moved. I just don’t prioritize his removal.

  40. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Don’t worry, the Johnnie in the parliament is trying backtrack now that he realized he stepped in an ocean of shit with his slave mind., he sounded just like you, you will get there too…it is a pattern…

  41. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    From the very impressive comments on the Trevor Marshall video it is very clear that many Black Bajans escaped the slavemindedness but those are the very ones who are maliciously OPPRESSED by the sell out governments, if they don’t act like slaves to be brutalized and robbed generationally, they are oppressed…


  42. (Unquote):

    I don’t support the dumping or destruction of Nelson statue or any statue for that matter. We would just be practicing a form of iconoclasm. That is what ISIS did in Syria and the Taliban in Afghanistan when they defaced and destroyed monuments. It has be given as the reason why the Sphinx in Egypt has had its “african nose” removed. Indeed there where instances in history where countries have been invaded and there artifacts stolen for the original society that built them asking for their return. e.g. the Axum Obelisk in Ethiopia or the “Elgin Marbles” in the UK stolen from Greece. In my opinion moving Nelson or dumping it in the Careenage will solve very little. It would just be vain attempt to erase history. It is why various govts have been lackadaisical towards moving it. It is simply NOT a priority.. (Unquote).
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    Very good attempt at putting this issue into some anthropological perspective.

    Was it seen as iconoclastic when the statues of Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were shamelessly pulled down much to the mirth of people in the West?

    Anyone calling for the actual physical destruction of the Nelson erection is as “iconoclastic” as those written about in the ‘Only’ read and fully understood book by most Bajans.

    So when will it be a priority to move it where it ‘genuinely’ belongs; both culturally and morally?

    Was it a ‘priority to transport the bones of a long buried person to West Africa as a symbolic gesture towards the healing of the many deep wounds– physical, cultural and deeply psychological- caused by the trans-Atlantic slave trade?

    Was such an act of disturbing the dead and digging up the bones of some unidentifiable person considered to be sacrilegious and an attempt to rewrite the Bajan history?

    Here is the deal! Remove Nelson’s statue from that uncomfortably too close to your local heroes Square to its more culturally suited location like the museum and put up a column in Heroes Square ‘inscripted’ with the names of those good white people who made tremendous personal sacrifices in the cause for the Abolition of Slavery in Barbados and the region.

    Since Bajans love to shout to the world about their immutable adherence to the same white-man ‘donated’ religion, how about including John Newton of “Amazing Grace” as a show of what Christianity can do to even ‘brutes’ of any colour.

    Even the white American John Brown could be given a mention as a show of support for your American brothers and sisters of the “BLM” movement who made a similar journey across the Atlantic ocean and experienced the same deleterious aspects of ‘black’ chattel slavery in the cause of making money for the western European ‘invaders’.

    As you good book say:

    ‘The love of Money is the root of all evil!’


  43. Our Minister King is an honourable man. He has nothing to apologize for. He must stand firm and repel the attacks of the mutinous opposition. The June 2020 riots in Bridgetown will be remembered like the riots in 1937.

    All ministers and officers who stood up against the violent agitators of the opposition at Nelson Heroes’ Square deserve a medal for bravery and integrity.

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    “So when will it be a priority to move it where it ‘genuinely’ belongs; both culturally and morally?”

    the slaveminded will remain the slaveminded…only today a great black man said, that’s their comfort zone.

    just don’t get to close to any of them to become infected..

    ah just want them to get their greatest wish, to be scooped up by racists, genocidal murderers, enslavers, rapists and thieves and be carted off to their paradise, …..far, far away from the real African descendants of the enslaved.

    only thing, they ain’t got much to tief these days, UK getting their farmers from Europe, so that too is a bust, so the aforementioned probably won’t waste their time feeding these goddamn idiots without any returns.

  45. Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies and Propaganda TV

    I see AGAIN Mr Denny and his group giving an ultimatum to a democratically elected govt to remove the statute or else….what is there to stop another group from telling this govt if they remove the statue “else” will happen.
    Sense or compromise got to step in somewhere.
    Saddam was a hero for Iraq up until the 1991 Gulf War. Gaddafi was a hero of Libya until he started oppressing his own people. Robert Mugabe was a hero for Rhodesia\Zimbabwe until he caused turmoil in his own country. The struggle in these countries didn’t begin with the removal of any statute. They wanted the actual “heroes” removed from power. If a home country doesn’t want a statute of their own “hero” who will stop them from destroying it. From a purely historical perspective destroying statues serves no purpose as it achieves nothing in itself. It is pure symbolism. People all over the world are caught up in symbolism and being distracted from other goals that have PRIORITY.

  46. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Miller…the slaveminded actually believe their pretense at colonial sophistication and cowardice makes so much sense and should be admired…lol

    they also believe remaining slaveminded will save their miserable lives..

    at least the younger generation are not falling for any of that self-hating cowardice, that is what will spread like wildfire in this era…the banishment of self-hate and slavemindness…..

  47. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    “Was it a ‘priority to transport the bones of a long buried person to West Africa as a symbolic gesture towards the healing of the many deep wounds– physical, cultural and deeply psychological- caused by the trans-Atlantic slave trade?

    Was such an act of disturbing the dead and digging up the bones of some unidentifiable person considered to be sacrilegious and an attempt to rewrite the Bajan history?”

    without even caring how the descendants of those whose resting place were disturbed felt about that totally ignorant act that she did and which continues to follow her ass incessantly, whether the descendants are in Barbados or across the Caribbean, it was insulting and disrespectful…but what do we expect from black governments who would continue to help racists perpetrate a lie, distorting history and happily continuing that vicious lie for a vicioius racist like nelson and minority criminals who they also help rob their people, continuing that fraud on their own people for over 50 years after they were allowed in the parliament as leaders, two generations of people deceived about history……and they had no intention of telling the majority black population the truth ever..

    makes me wonder what other dirty lies and secrets they are hiding from the people about history and everything, same people they will soon have to beg for votes again…

    now we know why that parliament is so blighted and cursed and nothing can go right for any of them…they are evil just like those they deceive their own people for….and it was not more evident than when the Ghanian president was sitting in the parliament, some of us noticed something out of place, something that few would have noticed….

    but it will all come out in the wash…


  48. Getting rid of a straight up racists statues is no big deal. There is no argument to keep it. It will not be missed by anyone. In America and UK they are falling like Dominoes


  49. Sigh! BU serial posters always lack context.

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