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Shooting Advisory – A Time to ACT

The blogmaster thought long and hard about posting the following incident which occurred on the weekend at the Charles Rowe Bridge gas station in St. George. In a nutshell two youngsters got into an argument inside the gas station and the video captures the the decision to resolve. Again the shooting incidents in recent months…

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The blogmaster thought long and hard about posting the following incident which occurred on the weekend at the Charles Rowe Bridge gas station in St. George. In a nutshell two youngsters got into an argument inside the gas station and the video captures the the decision to resolve.

Again the shooting incidents in recent months by our young men expose our society on many fronts. As a society we have failed to inculcate the right values in some of our young people. Whatever the reason we can theorize, we have reached the tipping point. A short term strategy must be put in place to deal with the situation. Obviously the youngsters have no regard for lives. No regard for collateral damage caused by an ability to shoot straight. No capacity to exercise reasonableness.

The blogmaster with reluctance recommends uncompromising enforcement measures. The government MUST impose an emergency plan to arrest increasing gun violence on the island. The youngsters committing these crimes have passed the point of no return, fire power must be met with fire power. The namby pamby approach currently be adopted will not work.

As a society we must fight back. NOW.

The bad boys must be taken out!

 

181 responses to “Shooting Advisory – A Time to ACT”

  1. DISHONEST Bajans Avatar
    DISHONEST Bajans

    Ask him why the local Bill is purposely incapable of touching the other ‘known’ players in the Donvillegate affair.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    DON’T EVEN TOUCH THIS ONE THE TASKER TWINS AND OTHERS IN THEIR CLOSE NETWORK HAVE BEEN IN A DRUG DEALING AND MONEY LAUNDERING RACKET FOR YEARS AND HAVE CLOSE TIES TO THOSE AT THE TOP INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

    JUST LIKE LEROY PARRIS AND CHARLES HERBERT.

    UNTOUCHABLE BECAUSE OF CRIMINAL WHITE COLLAR CONNECTIONS.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    @Greene

    It is a suspected case.

    https://youtu.be/3eA8KtyOFT8

  3. John A Avatar
    John A

    We are dancing around the real issues and focusing on the fallout effects.

    Trinidad had one of the most undisciplined group of PSV operators in the Caribbean until the nod was given by the minister to the commissioner to deal with it as he saw fit.

    Go down there now and see order. They know if they step out of line which police they will deal with and worst yet, what the magistrate they go before will do. In other words the gloves were taken off in TT.

    What did we do here with the same problem? We gave them uniforms and that was the cure all.

    Face it we are pathetic at law and it’s enforcement and the criminal element know that. What the hell did wunna really expect would be the outcome as a result?

    JOKERS!

  4. Austin Hal Avatar
    Austin Hal

    @ John A

    Simple. The ZR van business model encourages bad behaviour. It is(or was) that the van crews had to make Bds$3000 for a the owners per day and the rest of the money was theirs. Thus the bad behaviour.
    If they were unionised and put on weekly/monthly salaries, then there will be better behaviour. The alternative is putting the owners in the dock with the drivers and on the same charges.
    But it is a bad business model generally. Sometime ago I suggested to the ZR Owners Association that they should self-insure and, of course they did not take up the suggestion – or even asked me what I meant. Yet thy were complaining about the high cost of insurance. It is an obvious thing to do.
    At the meeting, with some government department, when I made the suggestion some returnee guy on the government’s side almost collapsed in shock.
    Government inaction leads to gangster capitalism. Barbados is a failed state. It will end in tars.

  5. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    If you look at our neighbours from Central America, the majority of the South America continent and the entire Caribbean, you will see a region that is more violent and dangerous than any other region in the world. With the exception of countries that are at war.

    The surge in criminality, violence and murder within Barbados is merely a reflection of events in the region.

    Why would any sensible person believe that this problem can be solved.

    We still have a long way to go to emulate our neighbours; but rest assure we will rival them within the coming years.

    Dishonest John has given an accurate summary of the roots of our problems.

  6. Chris Halsall Avatar
    Chris Halsall

    @TLSN: “Why would any sensible person believe that this problem can be solved.

    Because it must be.

    And please forgive me for what might be misinterpreted, but said with respect… There needs to be more discipline in Barbados if it is going to succeed. Not just be safe, but succeed.

    One of the big reasons the Asian countries do so well is discipline is deeply entrenched in the world-view (as is the “long game”). Take as just one example, their various martial arts. It’s as much mental is it is physical.

  7. Donks, Gripe and Josh Avatar
    Donks, Gripe and Josh

    The Thorne Commission is a waste of money and sums up the Mottley Administration disastrously flawed policies and failure on crime and violence.

    Less than a handful attend hearings Bobby Clarke, poonka like Commissiong and one or two others none with a meaningful constituency.

    That Commission’s remit should’ve been to tackle tough issues of violence in all its forms gun or domestic and wider crime.

    Its composition ought to be law enforcement , the church, parent-teachers , community leaders/activists, criminologists, judiciary, govt representations from Finance, Education, Legal affairs etc.

    The meetings should be convened in at risk and wider communities to grasp first hand from people who live in the neighborhoods where the shooters and bad boys reside, block and roam.

    These communities bear the brunt of daily shootings, maiming’s and killings whether perp or victim.

    Hear from folk on the ground encourage frank discussion in the search of causes, effects and solutions.

    That is an efficient results based use of funds to provide deep insight for law enforcement including the judiciary of the nature of the beast wrecking havoc on the nation.

    The Mottley Administration has gone silent on the daily shootings but wishing the problem away never works.

    Not bout here and meaningless threats from PM and AG are not worth what paddy shot at.

    No one over the age of thirty five understands what distorted the society in the past twenty months from a relatively low crime Caribbean outpost to a place of daily gun play with brazen shootings and murders. It has never happened in the history of our country.

    Our leaders have to step up to the plate now tomorrow is already too late.

  8. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @Chris,

    depends on which Asian country you are referencing. in any case, it is my view that all countries, at some point, were violent. seems to be human nature.

    we, in Bim, cannot let this go on. in fact something should have been done long time ago but as usual we love to yap and yap and yap and get stuck in analysis paralysis. never actually doing anything and hoping it will go away on its own.

    but, of course, a bad thing left unchecked will get worse- murphy’s second law

  9. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Hal

    Well if we look at the USA, China and Russia what do they have in common? They combined have a larger prison population that the rest of the developed world combined. In the case of the USA they have more gun related crimes than any where in the developed world.

    Now we look at Switzerland and The Netherlands and they are actually closing prisons from a lack of people to put in them.

    So we can conclude locking people up in jail has resulted in massive criminal populations, but has done little to cut the murder rate and gun related crimes there.

    What therefore are countries like Switzerland and the Netherlands doing that others are not?

    Start asking those questions find the answers and then work backwards to the source of our problems.

    Hal let me tell you if you think our PSVS undisciplined you should of been in Trinidad to see the lunacy that went on before, as the fellows down there say now when you asked them what changed ” New sheriff in town bass.”

    Trust me if it can be done there, it can be done here, all we need is to actually do something about it besides talk.

  10. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    One thing I know is that we cannot go on doing what we are doing now. Reducing the profit by legalizing it does seem to be the way to go. Treating drug addiction as a health issue makes sense because that is exactly what it is.

    But I don’t think it will take discipline alone to tackle the problem though Barbadians definitely do need more discipline these days. The powers that be know everything we know. Why have they not acted? Because they need to WANT to take the profit motive out.

    When will it happen? Probably not until someone they care about gets caught in the crossfire these foolish little black boys spray around. Sonia Browne MP only recently said it is coming too close to her home. And now it is coming close to her gas station, her supermarket, her children’s school, her mall. Not one of their family members is safe once they venture outside of the safe havens. They will have to build their own communities and only venture out with armed body guards.

    Not sure they would be able to live like that. We Bajans like to walk bout free.

    Of course, we also need to find something for the silly little black boys to do and convince them that it is worth doing. Or else they will find some other violent criminal activities to get into like robbing the same gas stations. And sticking us up. Breaking and entering. Kidnapping.

    Hal Austin,

    The preference for foreign white man solutions is not just a Bajan condition. And it is not just for white men solutions but also white men’s women. I have heard many a man thinking he had “arrived” because he was with a white woman. Where do you think that came from?

  11. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    John AJanuary 28, 2020 6:27 PM

    @ Hal

    Well if we look at the USA, China and Russia what do they have in common? They combined have a larger prison population that the rest of the developed world combined. In the case of the USA they have more gun related crimes than any where in the developed world.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Probably because when you come out of prison there is nowhere to go.

  12. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Imagine if one of the stray bullets had hit the gas pump in the wrong place and caused an explosion?
    Today’s babble maybe very different.

  13. Lionel Avatar
    Lionel

    The Criminals in Barbados are now using fully automatic firearms including fully automatic glock pistols I was told by close sources on the Barbados police force.

  14. Donna Avatar
    Donna

    NorthernObserverJanuary 28, 2020 7:24 PM

    Imagine if one of the stray bullets had hit the gas pump in the wrong place and caused an explosion?
    Today’s babble maybe very different.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I did imagine it. Would the sight of one of their family members engulfed in flames move them to act?

  15. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Lionel

    Be glad you not in the USA as they now have a rifle called the AR 500 which will be the big brother to the AR 15. As you may know the AR 15 has been used in many of the mass shootings in the USA so far.

    So now the right to own arms will allow people who claim to be big game hunters to own one of the AR500. This gun will also be used by the drug enforcement snipers, as it has the power to stop a vehicle once fired into the engine. In other words it can penetrate a steel engine block and shatter a position all with one shot from a distance!

    Imagine what will happen when this rifle falls into the wrong hands in the good old USA? Plus as it’s a small magazine single shot rifle, it does not fall under the full automatic restrictions.

    Talk about a mad world be glad we live here, for now at least.

  16. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    @John A January 28, 2020 7:47 PM “Be glad you not in the USA as they now have a rifle called the AR 500 which will be the big brother to the AR 15. As you may know the AR 15 has been used in many of the mass shootings in the USA so far. So now the right to own arms will allow people who claim to be big game hunters…imagine what will happen when this rifle falls into the wrong hands”

    So what big game will they be planning to hunt in the USA? There are no wild elephants nor rhinoceroses in the USA, right?

    There are no right hands for a weapon like this. Invariably some idiot will use it to shoot 6 year old humans (who by the way are NOT big game)

  17. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ Silly Woman

    It’s all about their God given right to bear arms as is their constitutional right! Of course back then arms were muskets not AR 500s.

  18. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    @John January 28, 2020 7:13 AM “What processes are followed by the car rental agencies? If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”

    Maybe some companies are slack?

    A few years ago I ordered a rental car to be delivered to my home. I had gone into the company a day or so before with ID and paid for the rental. The company had successfully debited my credit card. I had done business with the company once before.

    Towards the end of the workday I realized I would have to work late and asked the company to deliver the car to my work place instead of to my home. My home and workplace are approximately equidistant from the company. The company told me that they could not do that that I had to accept delivery at my home as ordered. I told them that since I had no car and since i had to work late there was no way I could get home on time to accept delivery. I told them that I had government issued picture ID on me. They refused to budge. They sent the driver with the car over to my home. Of course as I had told them there was nobody at home to accept delivery. They called me to say that nobody was answering the door.

    Worse than Kafkaesque.

    i cancelled the order.

    I have never attempted to do business with them again.

    But it seems any ole bad boy can “fool” the rental companies?

    While they give decent little old ladies a hard time?

  19. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    @Hal Austin January 28, 2020 2:02 PM “the people have Hollywood ambitions, so thy resort to unconventional ways of making money. Thy sell land, thy steal land; they overcharge; they sell drugs; they do dodgy jobs so that they will be called out again; it is gangster capitalism.”

    1627 is when the practice of gangster capitaism started i Barbados, brought from the Mother Country, the United Kingdom.

    Nothing much has changed since then.

  20. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    We have shamefully neglected OUR sons and now that the gang leaders have seduced them we the parents are afraid of our own sons and we want the state to kill them for us before they kill us.

    How else did we think that our shameful neglect would end?

  21. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    In the good old days the most respectable church going tradesman in the village would be godfather to our children.

    Now everybody including the churches have sold out. Now any gang leader can have his baby mother show up at the church and members of the political class are only too happy to stand godmother or godfather to the little bastards.

    i remember the good old days when decent parents would not ask politicians to be godparents because the parents knew that the politicians were mostly useless and rarely attended church.

    Now the churches smile on everything. Godparents who never go to church. Gangsters with half a dozen baby mothers.

    And we wonder how the youth get so.

    They get so because we made them so.

    I was talking to a 70 something mother recently. She has two drug dealing, drug using sons. They are making her life a living hell, fighting, breaking her furniture, cursing, not working, sleeping until past midday, coming in at al hours, using drugs in her home. She wants them out of her home. But she is afraid that if she puts them out they will come back and shoot her dead. Shoot dead the same woman who changed their diapers, cooked their food, got them ready for school. She said that neither the police or the courts are of any help to her. The children’s father of course disappeared from their lives when they were infants.

    The violence is driven by the drugs, and the gangsters find it easy to seduce foolish young boys who have never been loved by their fathers, the politicians do anything for a vote, and those who import guns know that they can pay officials to turn a blind eye.

    So yes.

    It is the economic inequality, not enough work, not enough well paid work, not enough education, not enough relevant education.

    It is the drugs.

    it is the guns.

    It is the neglect by fathers

    it is the immorality of the church and the parents.

    It is the politicians who will do anything for a vote.

    It is officials who don’t search where they should.

    It is the officials who do not investigate where they should.

    it is officials who “lose” files.

    So we have to fix all of these things at the same time.

    Asking the police to shoot OUR SONS, or asking the courts to lock them up forever. for us won’t fix the many, many things which are wrong.

  22. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    Just today someone complained about a cabinet level official who lets his dogs lose at nights. The dog eats the villagers livestock. The cabinet level official denies any responsibility.

    The idiot does not realize that when the dogs are out eating the neighbor’s sheep, they are not at home protecting the home. Perhaps a good time for a bad boy to pay a visit.

  23. Donks, Gripe and Josh Avatar
    Donks, Gripe and Josh

    Mottley’s initiative to expand the puny youth service to slightly bigger Advanced Youth Corps is a step in the right direction yet still it has not gone nearly far enough.

    The Reverend Senator Rogers like many social engineers opine a mandatory national youth service would starve hardened criminals, drug lords and block gang leaders of recruits, school leavers and drop outs to traffic illegal substances , obtain firearms to shoot ,injure, rob and kill with impunity and promote anti social behavior.

    Social scientists long ago identified and stats confirm ages between 16 and 26 is when youth without discipline, direction or constructive engagement turn violent against each other and the community.

    Crime and violence become a badge of honor.

    Youth crave direction and discipline also activity in which to keep them engaged a compulsory national youth service not a cohort of few hundred can provide that.

    The BDF success story is the ideal place to locate the youth service clear the blocks of idle mindless individuals majority fueled by drugs shooting and killing each other and innocents and spreading fear in the wider society.

    The NYS can turn them into positive citizens to help themselves, their families and their country. .

    A national youth service with conditions , exceptions and other details such as length of service and youth engagement subject matter can be worked out by competent technocrats.

    Money saved from hospital care for gunshot victims alone could assist in funding the NYS.

    The vast network of financial inputs to deal with daily shootings ,homicides , injuries and crime in general would be reduced dramatically and savings put into NYS.

    If as government says there is renewed confidence in the economy by international investors and lenders secure funds from those sources . It is worth it to save Barbados.

    Right now the population is under siege with record numbers of murders and terrified as seen in the armed robbery of Senator Franklyn at a traditional community domino game.

    The 35% unemployed youth are an army of occupation that demands urgent laser focus attention neglecting this demographic ensures Barbados continues its free fall to societal destruction.

  24. V 4 Vigilante Avatar
    V 4 Vigilante

    @David King, I support your call for we cannot allow these rif raffs to cause us to cower.

    I have said perhaps if ever public loses confidence in the police to arrest the wayward brain dead herb thugs the unwelcome vigilante justice may send a strong message to the thugs and their enabling family and friends, citizens are fighting back.

    GOB needs to look at the social root causes of the wayward behavior and not just give police bigger guns for new thugs are being recruited daily.

    What I do agree with is that some RH thugs families need their heads blown off by the police.

    Oh, Lil Rick and other jack ass DJs need to be censored. Expect more violence as we relax marijuana usage if in doubt ask California about their new mad people problem.

  25. John Avatar
    John

    Silly Woman
    January 28, 2020 8:43 PM

    @John January 28, 2020 7:13 AM “What processes are followed by the car rental agencies? If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”
    Maybe some companies are slack?
    A few years ago I ordered a rental car to be delivered to my home.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My experience is somewhat similar.

    There are strict controls.

    So assuming the car is a rental, there should be a clear path back to the renter.

    Of course it could have been stolen.

    A rented car once drove into the back of my car at a junction .. no big deal!!

    I realized the story given me by the driver was suspicious and decided to think it out some more on the scene before settling.

    She told me she was a tourist and she was taking the children to school and offered me a wad of US money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The passenger who remained in the car went crazy when I turned away to process the obvious conflict in the story.

    Both the driver and the passenger who I assumed was the renter were expats.

    When I got home I checked the rental contract I had from before and realized for the car I had rented in the past to be insured the driver had to be authorized by the renter and there is a small fee.

    That insignificant fee and act ties the renter to the authorized driver and identifies everyone to the Rental company.

    I relaised the driver had probably not been authorized by the renter and that was why I found the behavior suspicious.

    The passenger lost his temper when he interpreted my time thinking may have exposed his position.

    No damage but I learnt a thing or two.

    This was my surmise from snippets of info the lady offered to calm the situation.

    The guy was going through a divorce and obviously the lady was his outside lady.

    The children in the vehicle were his.

    They were taking them to school.

    Custody would have been compromised if he was ever found to have acted irresponsibly towards his children as no doubt his divorce was before a court in a different jurisdiction.

    Careful how you rent a car and sign a contract.

    Think before letting someone else drive it.

  26. John Avatar
    John

    You are contractually bound to report any accident to the Rental Company.

    Obviously the expat did not and if the car in the shooting is a rental, the renter won’t be fussy about revealing details of the “accident”!!

  27. Caleb Pilgrim Avatar
    Caleb Pilgrim

    @ Blogmaster:

    Perhaps, the Duterte approach to drug dealers has something to recommend it, given the dire circumstances and notwithstanding criticisms by Amnesty International (AI) and Human Rights Watch.

    At least, per certain reports, the Manila streets are safer today.

    (By contrast and as usual, in Bim, we tend to confuse speech with action in any and all circumstances-result: way too much jaw boning, and way too little action – no action really – to solve nagging, persistent problems).

  28. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Caleb

    Have you ever heard of something called democracy? Why is it that many Bajans always go to the most savage examples to prove a point. We can change our society through more civilised means – like jobs, education and opportunities.
    Here is an example: 40 – 50 years ago smoking was common place, especially among men. Today there are more women smokers than men and overall smoking is a minority activity. How did we get here? Simple: by reminding people that smoking kills.
    Mussolini got the trains to run on time, but at what price. We must think, us our brains, and avoid easy answers. A murderer is a murder whether he is a gangster or in uniform. Just look at how US (and Brazilian and others) police kill young, black men.
    First, we want the president to acknowledge there is a problem, then set about trying to solve it. That would be world class and punching above our weight.

  29. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    “If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”

    To rent a car, the customer must produce a valid driver’s license. So, unless the customer produces a fake driver’s license, I.D card or valid passport, I’m at a loss how a vehicle could be “rented under a false name.”

    No other individuals are allowed to drive the vehicle, unless they provide information similar to that of the “initial renter” and sign the contract as well. Unfortunately, this does not prevent the renter from allowing other people to drive the vehicle.

  30. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    Poor Little England. A country that remains proud of her British heritage and all that entails. A country that was built on the backs of slaves. A country which refuses to discuss her past history and the major impact that it still has on a modern day Barbados. A country who has, gleefully, accepted that dreadful colonial baton without reflecting on that cruel and brutal period. A country which which promotes social and racial apartheid against her own majority population.

    A country that allows its business community to facilitate and profit from the flow of drugs, guns and undocumented labour. A country that allows its political class and its elite to prosper at all cost; never mind that the people are suffering and that the infrastructure of the country is at the point of its sell-by-date.

    A contributor referenced Asia and the discipline of its populations. The Barbadians of my parent’s generation and the majority of Barbadians that I know, certainly those from the British diaspora, are a disciplined bunch.

    Sanity could be restored to Barbados however that would require a cleansing of the political system and the existing elite. This is not a simple task and will never be accepted domestically or internationally by outside international players. We will just have to get use to murder and mayhem on the streets. Those who are financially independent will have the means to hire their own private security. Those from the diaspora will abandon the island. Whilst the poor will exist with the ever present back ground noise of gunfire.

    Reference Barbados neighbours within the region and and where they are at: more guns;more violence. No solution.

  31. Piece the Legend Avatar
    Piece the Legend

    De ole man agrees with Donna who said

    “…When will it happen?

    Probably not until someone they care about gets caught in the crossfire these foolish little black boys spray around…”

    The fact Donna, is that the 49 murders last year AND THE 75 for this year, ARE NOBODIES!

    It really is insignificant how many of these scum get killed because AT THE END OF THE DAY, the people like Mugabe and Dale Marshall dont give a badword Donna!

    Someone going rush here and say that my statement is a “political one, and needs to be retracted but, interestingly enough, no such demand will be made for Sonia Browne MP who only recently said “it is coming too close to her home.”

    You continued Donna and said “…And now it is coming close to her gas station, her supermarket, her children’s school, her mall. Not one of their family members is safe once they venture outside of the(ir) safe havens.

    They will have to build their own communities and only venture out with armed body guards…”

    WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

    Intelligence Gathering in War!

    You MUST KNOW your enemy! Who he is, where he is, what he is packing AND WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF!

    That is not a problem for Mugabe Mottley since, now she is back in power, SHE HAS BEEN USING THAT DEVICE ON SENATOR CASWELL FRANKLYN AND ALL PDP members anyways.

    So the “authorities” ALREADY KNOW, who the bad brown are.

    STEP 2.

    KILLING THE ENEMY!

    Frankly speaking Donna, this problem MUST BE ERADICATED!

    There is no middle ground with these illiterate thugs.

    So one creates an elite BDF Unit that is used explicitly for this purpose

    AND THESE GUYS ARE “BACLAVED” UP and are chosen from the ranks if the bajans who KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT (that is real hard I know)

    STEP 3 IMPLEMENTATION

    Target 30 of these bad boys, AS WAS DONE WITH SENATOR CASWELL FRANKLYN AT HIS FLINT HALL DOMINO GAME, and kill all 30!

    Execute the scum one a night for 30 consecutive nights AND HAVE THE POLICE COME TO THE SITES JUST TO PICK UP THE BODIES!

    The message MUST BE A CLEAR ONE so that the thugs understand THAT THEY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

    Remember that BARBADOS is at war!

    And, if the Authorities DO NOT WIN THAT WAR, all wunna a.***** going be scampering like the bystanders in that video at the Charles Rowe Bridge gas station when those scum lick shot!

    If thugs can be enlisted to frighten law BIDING senators WHY NOT GO THE EXTRA MILE & ERADICATE THESE SCUM?

  32. Piece the Legend Avatar
    Piece the Legend

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your help please

  33. John Avatar
    John

    Artaxerxes
    January 29, 2020 4:38 AM

    “If it is a rented car are we going to find it was rented under a false name?”
    To rent a car, the customer must produce a valid driver’s license. So, unless the customer produces a fake driver’s license, I.D card or valid passport, I’m at a loss how a vehicle could be “rented under a false name.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I reckon there were perhaps 6 people involved in that shooting.

    The 3 in the car at the gas station, the shooter, and perhaps 2 in the getaway car probably parked at Chefette.

    Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.

    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.

    After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

  34. John Avatar
    John

    After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It also goes without saying that the activity pays no taxes on the profits it makes!!

    No taxes on profits + no NIS + no PAYE = plenty of cash to be laundered.

    Politicians, judges and the like can be bribed, policemen can be bent, banks used to launder the cash … the opportunities are only limited by the extent of the cash generated and the imagination of the CEO’s.

    A fake economy which undermines everything!!

  35. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    Wuh Loss !!

    New Year ! And the same old superficial analyses and knee jerk solutions. What really happened at Charles Rowe Bridge? Was it a shoot out over territory? If so we need an enlightened and different approach to eliminating the turf wars.
    Remove the fundamental disease. We are merely dealing with the symptoms.!!!

  36. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    Sorry.
    That should have been “belly aching over an event /incident.”

  37. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John

    So it is about profits and income? For whom are these profits and income being made? Is this the purpose of life and living?

  38. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ John January 29, 2020 8:34 AM
    “Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.
    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That factor is the key to understanding the main reason behind the rising level of every ‘colour-of –collar’ crime in Bim.

    That key is the love of money to live above one’s ‘honest’ means and the pathological infection of greed to maintain an excessively opulent lifestyle surrounded with fair-weather friends as in the ‘former’ Don of Porn who can now be dubbed and daubed as the modern-day Icarus of Corrupt Barbados.

    If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see the ‘white-collar’ mirage of proper policing and law enforcement then there could be some hope that an oasis of justice might just be on the horizon for Barbados before it falls below the moral nadir of no return.

  39. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    I reckon there were perhaps 6 people involved in that shooting.

    The 3 in the car at the gas station, the shooter, and perhaps 2 in the getaway car probably parked at Chefette.

    Whatever economic activity they were involved in paid their daily wages and whatever those wages were they were obviously considerable.

    If up to 6 people are employed the activity can easily pay for getting fake passports or ID’s as required.

    After all, it isn’t going to be making NIS and PAYE contributions on behalf of its employees.

    For a man who professes to be educated, sometimes you contribute a lot a shiite as a result of
    over analyzing and intellectualizing simple issues.

  40. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    “If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see If only we can get our fellow fighter in crime King Artaxerxes to see the ‘white-collar’ mirage of proper policing and law enforcement then there could be some hope that an oasis of justice might just be on the horizon for Barbados before it falls below the moral nadir of no return.

    @ Miller

    John wrote something about renting a car using a fake name. Having been involved in the car rental business for a few years and acquainted with others who are, I’ve never been confronted with or heard of anyone attempting to rent a car using fake I.D.

    What has me puzzled is how you’re making a correlation between using a fake name and “proper policing and law enforcement.”

    It becomes exhausting responding to your comments, because you have this uncanny ability not to focus on the main topic, while introducing irrelevant issues that only serve to confuse the entire “discussion.”

  41. GP Avatar
    GP

    RE It becomes exhausting responding to your comments, because you have this uncanny ability not to focus on the main topic, while introducing irrelevant issues that only serve to confuse the entire “discussion.”

    THIS A MOST ACCURATE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE RUBBISH THAT MILLER IS PERMITTED TO DISPLAY ON BU

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pieces, you sound real Dirty Harry gungho with “Execute the scum one a night for 30 consecutive nights AND HAVE THE POLICE COME TO THE SITES JUST TO PICK UP THE BODIES!”….. If you were AG then I presume this policy would be in place… but you are not the AG so let’s frame it another way.

    If you were an antagonist of a powerful pol and this awesome eradication program was in place what safeguards would you want also in place to ensure that you a decent, lawbiding member of society with a big mouth and sharp skills did not become a balaclava officer’s collateral of the clean up in scum alley!

    The gun crime situation is out of hand…we all get that… but if we can look at other communities to see how their open warfare programs ripped apart their nations and generally had limited long term successes (and the Philippines with a dictatorial, murderous henchman as its leader can NOT be a valid example) and so blissfully recommend a similar war-fare program in little Bdos then I shudder in realization that we are just as ridiculous as the local leaders we condemn daily.

    We talk about the elites and how they badly game the systems of justice, governance, banking and social net (like NIS) to our disadvantage…yet after those elites and complicit administrations allowed guns to flood this island and willingly seed these steps into his “anarchy” we are rising up manfully to demand they complete their program of control. What a thing!

    @Hal, I don’t often agree with you guy but on this I see your experience shining through brightly. I see absolutely no good outcomes to these senseless calls for basically open warfare…

    If folks are too naive to see the glee of crooked cops and politicians with any acceptance of police ex-judicial killings by Bajans and to uninformed to understand how all this starts us on a course from which we would have grave long term issues then i must agree with the Blogmaster: all our free education was a freaking waste of time!

    I gone, gone.

  43. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    @Piece the Legend January 29, 2020 6:05 AM “The fact Donna, is that the 49 murders last year AND THE 75 for this year, ARE NOBODIES! It really is insignificant how many of these scum get killed because…”

    These young men are NOT scum, they are NOT nobodies. They are OUR SONS, MY SON, YOUR SON, all ‘o we sons.

    We have shamefully neglected them.

    Not we are demanding that other of OUR SONS, those sons who are policemen go out and MURDER our other sons.

    Why do we think that this is going to work?

    Do you think that once our police sons have tasted blood, they won’t want more? Kill suspected drug lords, then suspected rapists and thieves, then little old ladies who use their cell phones while driving.

    Blood, blood, and more blood.

    Keep killing until there is not a man or woman or child left standing.

    Or take the much easier path. No guns required. No bloodshed needed. Keep close to your sons, keep you sons close to you. If they are hungry let them eat your food, take them to the beach, to cricket to church, to fetes, be the main man in your son’s life, and he won’t need the dealer man in his life.

    Train up a child in the way HE should go, and when he is old HE will not depart from it.

    But too many of us, the political class, the economic class, the legal class, the “elite” too feel that child raising is low class work and that the only people who should be doing it are lower class black women.

    I have long noticed that boys who are nurtured by their fathers are not getting into conflict with the law or with their friends, or their neighbours, or their employers, or their employees.

    Boys/young men of all social classes who are loved and nurtured by their fathers are still doing well.

  44. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    I have heard from too many people who have spent lifetimes working with young people and you would be amazed at how many feel men feel that once they had ‘paid for that piece of pvssy” than their responsibility is done.

    No fellas.

    It int done.

    It has just begun.

    If you don’t love that son…he int going nowhere..he will be back in 15 or 20 years as a killer.

  45. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Silly Woman January 29, 2020 10:23 AM
    “I have long noticed that boys who are nurtured by their fathers are not getting into conflict with the law or with their friends, or their neighbours, or their employers, or their employees.
    Boys/young men of all social classes who are loved and nurtured by their fathers are still doing well.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does that apply to those “boys/young men” who commit crime of the white collar variety?

    What about the ‘men’ who hide behind the dog collar or are ardent pew warmers including those who attend religiously their temples and mosques?

  46. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ GP January 29, 2020 10:11 AM

    You mean like asking you to explain how Noah was able to capture 2 polar bears and two kiwi birds to save their sorry asses from Yahweh’s wrath?

    All the miller is asking you lot is to try to see the correlation between the rampant existence of white collar crimes and the ineffectiveness of the local law enforcement efforts.

    Not only can our BU John see it but also the calypsonian Adonijah with his “Two Barbadoes”; and even Uncle Sam who had to step in to embarrass you silly incestuous lot with small island mentalities.

  47. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ de Pedantic

    Just look at Mexico to s how well-armed gangs respond to heavily armed police/military. Thy do not curl up and die, thy fight back. Look at Colombia. Is this what we come want for little Barbados, or do we want to show the rest of the world how it is done?
    (I have told a story her of a senior Bajan police officer on work experience in North West London with Scotland Yard; the local police carried our a drugs raid on Stonebridge Park and were dutifully taking names etc.
    He intervened, telling the officers to be rougher with the young black boys until the commanding officer told him to shut up. When he told me the story I told him that is how thy behave in Barbados. What I now call the Bajan Condition.
    In simple words, violence begets violence. A violent police force/defence force will lead to violent gangs. There are better ways.

  48. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Alcatraz ?

    A decision could soon be made on the first phase of the building of islands off the shores of Barbados, Minister of Maritime Affairs and the Blue Economy Kirk Humphrey has revealed.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/01/29/offshore-islands-near-humphrey/

  49. Silly Woman Avatar
    Silly Woman

    @Miller January 29, 2020 10:48 AM “Does that apply to those “boys/young men” who commit crime of the white collar variety? What about the ‘men’ who hide behind the dog collar or are ardent pew warmers including those who attend religiously their temples and mosques?”

    I speak of young men with good decent fathers.

    If the father is bad behaved/criminal very likely the son will be bad behaved/criminal as well. The fruit cannot fall far from the tree, and it does not matter if the tree is Jew, Christian, Muslim, Agnostic, or Atheist or whatever.

    As we say in Barbados “wuh in de old goat got to be in the kiddie”.

    You know that as well as I do.

  50. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    These fools in parliament with their limited intellects refuse to stop courting disaster and wilfully attracting the most dangerous lowlifes to the island, but let them carry on smartly, they may be the only ones trapped in the next dangerous set up they are creating for their own people.

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