It has been a puzzlement for many why the simple task of issuing a Police Certificate of Character has proved challenging through the years. It makes one question the competence of our men in ‘blue’ knowing that this agency is responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities.

The inability (incompetence) of the police force to execute on the routine task of issuing a police certificate translates to hundreds of ordinary Barbadians unable to apply for jobs because a certificate of character is not an optional requirement.

This routine but important task will continue to be nettlesome for ordinary Barbadians  because ‘bigups’ can secure certificates through the backdoor or have this requirement waved with the stroke of a pen. Two Barbadoses!

Let us not forget the inability to efficiently issue a Police Certificate of Character is a symptom of a dysfunction society.

The following article has become very familiar to Barbadians, In  fact, the public has become numb to this and other  problems, Another symptom of a passive people.

Character certs hindering jobs

RACHELLE AGARD, rachelleagard@nationnews.com

Added 13 September 2019

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The Police Certificate of Character Office has been closed to the public since last week. (Picture by Jameel Springer.)

The closure of the Police Certificate of Character Office is causing headaches for several Barbadians, in some cases hindering them from finding work.

And what is adding to their woes is that no one seems to know when it will be reopened

Cruising Island Musicians is contemplating its next move after being unable to get the certificate for ten musicians.

Stephen Cox, one of the managing partners, said the company recruited musicians from all over the world to work on cruise ships.

“Currently, I have ten crew members from Barbados who have been offered contracts to work on board cruise ships to start in three weeks. They made the appointments, which were confirmed, and they went, only to be told that the Police Certificate of Character Office is closed until further notice,” he said.

When contacted on Tuesday, Assistant Commissioner of Police Richard Boyce said they were encountering system problems, but were working assiduously to have them rectified as soon as possible. He asked the public to bear with them.

“Everything has gone computerised now, so we’re working on everything. One thing leads into the next; it is not a one-off operation you have to do. It is a holistic operation that involves different steps. Even if you try to correct one [issue], another step has to go which is not functioning correctly; so that is the problem. We hope to get it resolved any minute now,” he said.

Nation newspaper (13 September 2019)

 

74 responses to “Police Force Should Outsource the Issuance of Certificate of Character to China”


  1. For instance Enuff, my grandmother always used to say that life is a struggle and a puzzle. Our recent attitude has been that we have “arrived” and no longer should have to struggle or solve puzzles. I have come to the realization that if we don’t keep an edge whatever we have gained will soon be lost. The struggle is never over and there is always a new puzzle. Like housework. life’s problems are never finished. Just as we roll up our sleeves, do our housework daily and understand that that’s just the way it is, we have also to understand that the whole of life is a daily challenge and we need to stop moaning and groaning and see it normal. Just as we are not surprised and disappointed that the furniture we dusted yesterday is again in need of a dusting, we should not be surprised or disappointed that our leaders, our countrymen and even ourselves need constant attention and vigilance and work to make our country livable. It is the human condition. We are flawed beings.

    And so we should not be surprised or disappointed when human beings are greedy, cruel, lying, cheating, thieving etc. We should not be disenchanted and disillusioned when we don’t get what we think we deserve. We should recognize that we don’t deserve anything unless we fight for it. DAILY.

    We need to change our perspective on life. It is a battle not a party.


  2. Donna
    Who says I meant you, I don’t know you to be of the conspiracy ilk.


  3. EnuffSeptember 14, 2019 7:05 PM

    Stupse people with as much depth as a teaspoon complaning about the meatyness of topics and of course in doing so must start some conspiracy. 🤣🤣

    Enuff,

    I thought perhaps you were attempting to kill two birds with one stone. The tin foil man and me. You did say “PEOPLE”. And after all, I was the one who used the phrase “not much to sink your teeth into” in other words no MEAT.

    No matter. Let us move on!


  4. By the way, there is such a thing as a conspiracy. I just don’t see them around every corner.


  5. Would this same situation and excuse be allowed to fly in the case of the VAT office, Land Tax office, BRA, air and seaport departments?

    “Sorry folks, we will not be accepting any more VAT, income tax, land tax, payments or allowing visitor entry into the island as there are some glitches in our new computer system. Matter of fact, we are closing the departments until these challenges are resolved. Have faith though, we are working diligently to have these situations resolved as soon as possible.”

    How ah sound? Like ah idiot, right?


  6. FearPlay

    Your comment puts a lid on it.


  7. Um is more serious than wunnah think,the vaunted ASYCUDA is DOA and the Gov’t has been unable to revert to the previous system because it rendered it inoperable as the new system was being implemented. It implemented a system without as much as a “field” test. I understand Mia read the riot act but what is she going to do fire the new Comptroller? The shit is fast approaching the fan so be warned.

    Len me hear from the bionic man


  8. @Sargeant

    Why would the responsibility rest with the Comptroller? This is an IT matter where standard protocol calls for a rollback plan if the upgrade failed. This is 101 stuff.


  9. @ David

    Somebody gotta be the fall guy, where does the buck stop? Some IT minion that no one knows? Will it be the Minister? Well that last one won’t happen.
    Just suck it up buttercup


  10. Wow…shit is flying everywhere.

  11. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @DonnaSeptember 15, 2019 9:00 AM “We need to change our perspective on life. It is a battle not a party.”

    So true.

    When I am doing my gardening, especially this September month. I remember

    By the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return…in pain you shall bring forth children.

    Nobody has yet abolished the weeds or the labour pains, 24 hours and 17 minutes, as I remember. Decades later I still remember.

    Life is indeed a battle, and not for the swift but for she who endures to the end.

    Keep up the fight.

  12. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @FearPlaySeptember 15, 2019 10:51 AM “working diligently to have these situations resolved.”

    Nobody says resolved anymore. It is always rectified.

    I suppose that rectified sounds posher?

    Lolll!!!


  13. @VC
    “This is especially so when the package is purchased off the shelf ,adapted to local use”
    True. However, the Canadian Federal government spent billions on a new payroll system. Aptly, instead of calling it by one of their famous acronyms, they settled on Phoenix. It underpays, overpays, doesn’t pay at all, and in about 50% of the cases pays accurately. Unfortunately, it is yet to reincarnate itself and rise from the ashes. We are told that will cost another many billion whenever it does. We have an election in a few weeks, and not a single politician has yet to touch this topic. There is something about public money and software execution, which do not seem to work well together.


  14. “for 13 days we cannot export a single container of rum and we actually have 38 containers at the port waiting to be loaded on the ship”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/09/13/stalled-6/

    So what if Customs take another 2 weeks or more to get the system up and running ?


  15. The Customs Department stands ready to assist any of its stakeholders who are experiencing challenges with the recently implemented ASYCUDA World system.

    This assurance came from Minister in the Ministry of Finance, Ryan Straughn, who said the department was working to address some post implementation technical issue.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/09/14/customs-department-ready-to-assist/


  16. “There is something about public money and software execution, which do not seem to work well together.”

    Lol..in Barbados’ case they spent decades chasing away their best and brightest minds , particularly their scholars, in a bid to please and appease nasty minority interests, now they are STUCK WITH PRETEND IT SPECIALISTS……….truly KARMIC..

    ….not a fella is shedding a tear for any of them…other countries that are smarter continue to reap the benefits of those world class talents.

    The stones you reject………….


  17. Dah is wuh happens when BACKWARD governments remain eager:

    To maintain a slave society;

    To maintain a yardfowl society;

    To line their own pockets, at the expense of the people;

    And to date, they have LEARNED NOTHING, cause they are still bending over backwards to continue SAME.


  18. @NorthernObserver

    Thanks for this NO. There is a difference between incompetence and corruption.


  19. @David

    There is a difference but both are equally unacceptable, would you fire a corrupt employee but keep an incompetent one?


  20. @David September 15, 2019 6:48 PM
    “@Sargeant: Why would the responsibility rest with the Comptroller? This is an IT matter where standard protocol calls for a rollback plan if the upgrade failed. This is 101 stuff.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That comment should be directed to the many IT consultants, specialists and czars ‘populating’ the expensively expansive Cabinet serving the present government.

    Isn’t there a senator who was ‘headhunted out of Canada (and the Constitution swiftly amended) to be the chief spokesperson on all matters IT?

    What about the ‘Babbling theoretical’ consultant who was appointed Czar on all things “IT”?

    This country lacks nothing in IT expertise; just the need to put the right people in the round holes instead of the current square pegs in triangles of massive incompetence.

    Why can’t the jack-of-all-trades’ Guru Avinash be thrown into the melee to sort things out as he did with the Four Seasons failure and is about to do with the pending White Oak disaster?


  21. @Sargeant

    If if it is any consolation we heard an empty statement from the PR of Police this morning, hopefully it will be similar for Customs. We need to improve efficiency if the government is to grind out some credibility.


  22. It’s something in the corrupt, brutal minds of black leaders that is causing this societal neglect, corruption and human rights violations…against their own people in the Caribbean, it has to be destroyed if the majority populations are to move forward without being targeted for human rights violations, most often by their own governments whom they elect and pay a salary. I have not even heard of this database before, but now everyone knows.

    “By Stabroek News September 16, 2019

    (Jamaica Gleaner) Jamaica has recorded the most incidents of human rights violation when compared to its Caribbean neighbours.

    According to the regional civil society-led human rights reporting mechanism, the Shared Incident Database (SID), of the 1,413 reports received for the period August 2013 to 2018, Jamaica had a total of 505 incidents, most of which were violence against males.

    Guyana had the second highest recorded incidents, at 404, followed by Suriname, with 315.

    The SID data showed that in Jamaica, 52.1 per cent of the incidents were reported by males. They accounted for approximately one and a half times the proportion of cases, compared to females at 33.5 per cent.

    Transwomen also reported nine times the number of cases as transmen. There was one case where the person did not disclose their gender.

    “The idea behind the shared incident database came about to develop some sort of mechanism through which you could have the systematic documentation of rights violation by people who were living with HIV and other key affected populations,” said Ivan Cruickshank, executive director at The Caribbean Vulnerable Communities Coalition (CVC), whose organisation spearheaded and piloted SID.

    “After looking at how members of the key population groups in particular were responding to issues around rights violations, we realised that there was no systematic documentation of the incidents that were occurring.

    He added, “You would hear stories but they were usually anecdotal stories. We couldn’t find anywhere that you could go to look and identify what was happening, where it was happening, who it was happening to and the magnitude of the problem.”

    Details kept private

    The database was established in 2016 and rolled out initially in Jamaica before launching in the wider Caribbean in 2017.

    “Anybody who is affected by human rights can report into the database. We work with organisations who are working in the area of human rights, as well as issues around HIV. Those organisations can then make the system accessible to persons who they have to engage with on a day-to-day basis,” said Cruickshank.

    Of note is that the details of who is reporting the incident is kept confidential.”


  23. Certificate of Character Office to reopen Monday
    Article by
    Barbados Today
    Published on
    September 21, 2019

    The Office of the Police Certificate of Character is set to reopen on Monday, September 23, after being closed for over two weeks.

    And, those waiting on certificates to obtain jobs on cruise ships will be given priority, while others have been given the assurance that in the coming months, the wait time for certificates will be reduced to three to four days.

    This announcement was made today by Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs, Dale Marshall.

    “On Monday, Barbadians can apply to the Office of the Police Certificate of Character,” he said, while also giving the assurance that members of the public should expect to see a more efficient and faster process going forward.

    Over the last few weeks, members of the public took to the airwaves and vented their frustration after the office was closed earlier this month, due to administrative and technical difficulties with the software.

    But, Marshall said, Government’s thrust to digitize criminal records was now complete, and allowed for the reopening of the office and certificates being issued within a week of applications being made over the coming months.

    “Within the next few days, the Barbadian society can expect, not a return to normalcy, but a move towards a better state of affairs as far as this office is concerned,” he said, noting persons should still expect delays due to the backlog.

    The Attorney General also announced plans for the development of an app which will see persons making applications for certificates of character from their mobile phones and computers, to eliminate them calling the office to schedule appointments.

    Marshall said people were “rightly concerned” about scheduling appointments and having to wait six weeks in order to get a certificate of character.

    “These Police Certificates of Character are relied on by merchants; they are relied on by employers and … individuals in our society, and therefore any challenges with the current operation of the office represent difficulties for Barbadians,” the Attorney General said.

    He added that the app was yet to be rolled out, and was being worked on by the Ministry of Innovation, Science and Technology.

    Meanwhile, the police say special arrangements have been put in place to accommodate those persons affected by the recent closure; consequently, those persons who had applied for certificates between
    the 19th August 2019 and the 2nd September 2019, can collect their certificates on Monday 23rd September or Tuesday 24th September between 8 AM and 3 PM, from the office at Pinfold Street.

    Those persons, who had appointments during the week of 3rd September 2019, will be accommodated as follows:

    Tuesday 3rd September 2019, will now be processed on Monday 23rd September 2019.
    Wednesday 4th September 2019 will now be processed on Tuesday 24th September 2019.
    Thursday 5th September 2019 will now be processed on Wednesday 25th September 2019.
    Friday 6th September 2019 will now be processed on Thursday 26th September 2019.


  24. Thanks.

    I sincerely hope DM delivers as outlined above. He must.

    And if he delivers, then other Ministers who are encountering unexpected delays should ask DM how he pulled it off. I believe he has a recipe ….. Share it.

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