… Abrahams said that the outfall extends 815 metres (2,700 feet) offshore with two distinct high density polyethylene lines (HDPE), which was installed by Ward Drilling Inc., with sub–contractor Marenco Marine Ltd. One 8-inch and one 12-inch lines have been installed, with both of them capable of taking the entire flow from the plant individually…. Minister of Energy and Water Resources, Wilfred Abrahams

A recent discussion on another blog explained the threat to the environment of piping sewerage into the sea. Successive governments in their wisdom never allocated the resources to implement a tertiary treatment process as part of a relevant waste management system.  An irony for the blogmaster is that the Cabinet now includes a Minister of the Blue Economy, another for the Environment and let us not forget Water Resources.

The following comments (in two parts) were shared by Dr. Robert Lucas, PH.D., CFS,  Biotechnologist with the BU family in response to the question – what is the significance of a build up of phosphates and nitrates at the point of discharge in causing an algae bloom?

– David, Blogmaster


Comment

It is called eutrophication and is currently occurring off the south coast of Barbados where the escaping sewerage is being pumped into the sea. At the point of discharge there is a build up of phosphates and nitrates which cause an algae bloom that results in depletion of the oxygen content of the seawater. This creates a de facto desert in the sea. Halophilic anaerobic microorganisms predominate.

 


Comment #2

Nitrogen and phosphates occur in the foods humans ingest, Unused nitrates and phosphates are excreted into faecal matter. Nitrates and phosphates are soluble and are therefore easily dissolved in water. Nitrates and phosphates are essential elements required for microbial growth (note phosphates and nitrates are present as salts of potassium and sodium, i.e. all the major elements required for plant growth are present).

Also present in sea water are trace elements such as magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, sulphur, iron, zinc and copper. In other words you have an ideal medium for plant growth. There is therefore an algal bloom which depletes the oxygen content of the area where the sewerage discharge occurs. That is at the end of the pipeline from which the discharge occurs and as far as the diffused elements reach by a process of osmosis. This area is a virtual desert, deficient in all plant and animal life (biota). Remember bacteria are actually members of the plant family,

Also present will be unicellular parasites (protozoa) which can cause amoebic dysentery (the lack of oxygen kills the non-cyst stage). The cysts stage constitute what are called survival bodies and ingesting such contaminated water results in illness.note anaerobic halophilic  (salt tolerant) microbes are predominant in the affected area.

182 responses to “Piping Sewage to the Sea a Clear and Present Danger”


  1. @ john2 July 22, 2019 7:44 AM
    “@ David
    Primary treatment is an internationally accepted for of sewage treatment.
    Barbados is pumping the effluent of a primary treatment plant into the sea off of Worthing (not raw sewage as you are trying to mislead the public)
    I don’t expect you to understand the difference”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What you are implying here is that the two ‘lead’ comments at the start of this blog made by the respected Dr. Robert Lucas are just a load of unscientific bullsh**t not even worth the number of keystrokes with which they were electronically penned.

    It might be an internationally-accepted form of sewage treatment but is it ‘suited in the long term for a country which is woefully over-dependent on people visiting the island and tanning their pale skins on the sandy white beaches in exchange for foreign money which is the lifeblood of the Bajan consumerism driven economy.

    You might be the type who would find it totally acceptable to leave your ‘skid marks’ for the next user to deal with; but just remember there are others who practise higher standards of hygiene both at the personal and public levels.


  2. Well read carefully before becoming abusive.


  3. HAL

    MR FULLY LITERATE, again plain and simple GO TO HELL (and i am being nice here). I am not perfect or pretend to be even if I read carefully i am one of the semi-literates and my opinion of you still stand.


  4. John2 keep supporting your premise
    One day coming soon u would see the results
    You like Mia belives in the sound bite “not bout here”


  5. Miller

    You can jump to any conclusion that you want. I
    am really tired of you.

    My comment to David was in relation to something he mention about Barbados being forced to stop pumping raw sewage into the sea.

    The only countries that can/will force Barbados to do anything are the bigger/wealthier countries.
    These are the same countries that Set the standards that are internationally accepted.

    PRIMARY SEWAGE TREATMENT IS AN INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED FORM OF SEWAGE TREATMENT.

    Is the above statement wrong?

    You are so freaking wrong about what I think about Dr Lucus.

    Dr Lucus analysis is spot on.
    What you are not understanding is that he is saying that the contamination is mainly localized – that is it is in the immediated vicinity of the outfall (the point where the effluent comes out of the pipes and mixes with the sea water.

    This is a known fact to anyone that study or have any immediate knowledge of marine outfalls.


  6. @ john2 July 22, 2019 10:06 AM

    Well flush, jack! Hope to see you exiting the outfall!

    If you think that the millions of litres of partially processed sewage are going to remain within the confines of the mouth of the outfall then you ought to build yourself a pit toilet and raise bull frogs on sargassum seaweed for a living.

    Now piss off, Johnny klat 2!


  7. You are not fully literate. You read and failed to understand, a sign of semi-literacy. Your anger dismisses you as a serious debater. You are angry because people disagree with what you are saying and you have exhausted your arguments. It is a symptom of learning by rote and the frustrations of toddlers. I am not surprised you are an expert on sewage. Cool down and debate properly, silly man. Stick to ideas.


  8. Miller

    More and ore you are showing ur ignorance.

    CONTAMINATION remains in the direct vicinity of the outfall
    (OR are you now disputing what Dr lucus also said and is equating it to bullshit?)

    The millions of gallons of INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED / “partially processed” is diluted, dispersed and carried away by off shore currents. ( as was stated by Engineer Hugh Sealy) – and is internanational standard for marine outfalls.

    Or are you saying the studies / work don’t by the technocrats from ministry of health, overseas, and technocrats like Hugh sealy is also bullshit?

  9. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    RE “Presently the ocean is producing self eating bacteria a form of bacteria never heard of before
    In my humble opinion any toxic waste pumped into the ocean would become deadly to all forms of life”

    HUHHHHH!!!???

    HUHHHHHH INDEED!

    THE BOVINE EXCREMENT PERVEYED ON BU BY ANGELA COLE FOR OVER TEN YEARS WILL VERY LIKELY PRODUCE self eating bacteria a form of bacteria never heard of before

    THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE MIRTH INJECTED BY THE BRIMBLERS IN THE BU RUM SHOP

    THIS NEW SPECIES OF BACTERIA MUST BE ARCHIVED IN MICROBIOLOGY JOURNALS AS angela cole species
    MURDAH!


  10. Comment #1
    It is called eutrophication and is currently occurring off the south coast of Barbados where the escaping sewerage is being pumped into the sea. “At the point of discharge” there is a build up of phosphates and nitrates which cause an algae bloom that results in depletion of the oxygen content of the seawater. This creates a de facto desert in the sea. Halophilic anaerobic microorganisms predominate.


  11. Also present in sea water are trace elements such as magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, sulphur, iron, zinc and copper. In other words you have an ideal medium for plant growth. There is therefore an algal bloom which depletes the oxygen content of “the area where the sewerage discharge occurs.” That is at the end of the pipeline from which the discharge occurs and as far as the diffused elements reach by a process of osmosis. This area is a virtual desert, deficient in all plant and animal life (biota). Remember bacteria are actually members of the plant family,


  12. From reading Dr Lucas submission I would assume that he has or is close to the inspection (team) of the marine outfall.


  13. Hal

    Yes I am an expert in sewage that how I know that you are a big piece of shit.


  14. @John 2

    Defend you points and leave the shit at the door. We can disagree and at the same time learn from each other.


  15. MARI – I haven’t forgotten you

    “John2 keep supporting your premise
    One day coming soon u would see the results
    You like Mia belives in the sound bite “not bout here”

    Mari what is the Premise that I am supporting?

    That Barbados is not financially ready for tertiary sewage treatment and the shit should continue being pumped into the sea?

    IF Barbados could run into some wealth (like Guyana), where we knew we can afford to pay all/most of our bill in a few years, I would be all for the up grades of both existing sewage plants and the building of the one on the west coast all tertiary treatment. And not to pleas no tourists either (as some in here is espousing) even if we had to depend on the same tourist after the wealth ran out.

    I don’t know what about my position that you people cannot understand.
    is it because I am using the word shit is upsetting to some of you?


  16. If tomorrow Barbados could financially afford (without putting further economic strain on the population) to upgrade/build and maintain a tertiary treatment on the South Coast, I would be 100% in support of that venture.

    Since it cannot, IMO at this time, they should continue with the INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED STANDARD of primary sewage treatment and discharging of the effluent from this process to the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD OUTFALL as was being done before

    That sound better?


  17. Defend you points and leave the shit at the door. We can disagree and at the same time learn from each other(Quote)

    Brilliant. Good chairmanship.


  18. Yes I am an expert in sewage that how I know that you are a big piece of shit.(Quote)

    The mark of a good professional person is behaviour. That is why all professions have an ethical code. You are showing more about yourself than you intend. Argue the facts and not try to personalise it.
    Sit down, take a sip of water and behave rationally. Don’t let the Bajan Condition show. A good professional person in any developed country would never behave in this way. Grow up.


  19. Is my last submission wrong or so hard to understand?

    Or should we rush now and upgrade/build the tertiary plant in 8 months because the minister said we can find the finance somewhere somehow. And there is a possibility that a few “environmental” tourist may abandon the island.

    Thank god the majority of tourist are no “environmental” an will not react like some of you bajans who we did not hear a word from for about 15 – 20 years when the sewerage system was working without any major problems and the effluent was going into the sea.

    Even when the effluent was coming up in the streets and messing up the place the tourist still came in record numbers.
    I wonder why is that!


  20. Hal

    I am not a professional, not try to be one, never said I was one
    I respect David as the blog master and will leave the shit at the door (although he did not say which shit he was referring to).
    I don’t care on rh about you or your codes or your advice. As far as I am concerned you can take your codes, advice and anything else you have to say to me and stuff it up your outfall.


  21. Again your uncontrollable anger is coming through. You started wrong, and have continued to spew bile. I know you are not professional, I can tell from your behaviour. I grew up in rum shops and know rum shop behaviour, which I dislike.
    You, whoever you are, are showing off your real character. You can take a pig out of the sty, but it remains a pig. Maybe that is why you like sewers. Nom de plumes suit some people, they are like balaclavas on robbers.


  22. @Hal
    Just signed on and you provided me with two good laughs although I suspect you are quite serious.

    “Sit down, take a sip of water and behave rationally. Don’t let the Bajan Condition show.”
    and
    “I know you are not professional, I can tell from your behaviour. I grew up in rum shops and know rum shop behaviour, which I dislike.”


  23. Some people on this blog behave like ole wimmen wid lame foots.

  24. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    The boys of BU behaving badly again so I am going straight to bed.


  25. @ The fearmongers who want to waste money, in hard economic times, because the fear the lost of a few American tourist/$s
    or that Uncle Sam and company will soon put pressure on us for treating and dumping our domestic sewage in an INTERNATIONALLY ACCPTED way.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/theres-poop-water-americas-dirtiest-070805467.html


  26. July 22, 2019 12:06 PM

    Again your uncontrollable anger is coming through. You started wrong, and have continued to spew bile. I know you are not professional, I can tell from your behaviour. “I grew up in rum shops” and know rum shop behaviour, which I dislike.
    You, whoever you are, are showing off your real character. “You can take a pig out of the sty, but it remains a pig.” Maybe that is why you like sewers. Nom de plumes suit some people, they are like balaclavas on robbers.


  27. Why can’t this discussion about the treatment of Bajan sewage be framed within the current administration’s policy framework of the “Blue Economy”?

    Aren’t the green economy (land-based) and the blue economy (sea-based) twins from the same womb of policymaking?

    The Bajan government just cannot promote the blue economy as the lifeboat of economic sustainability of a future ‘restructured’ Barbados while there is a ‘planned’ strategy to continue to dump human waste in the sea to turn things real ‘brown’ and the skins of beachcombers red from health-challenging rashes.


  28. @Miller

    The blogmaster mentioned we have three ministers with overlapping responsibilities for waste management. The structure sends a message that this government sees environmental as a big issue. Perhaps it is about image impression above substance.


  29. Several scientists have repeatedly argued that the area’s cold water and fast flowing currents mean the wastewater is quickly diluted and produces no harmful effects.

    Federal laws changed in 2012
    However, federal regulations introduced in 2012 mean that the Capital Regional District, which includes Victoria, Saanich, and Esquimalt, B.C., have to have a treatment plant up and running by the end of 2020.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/victoria-sewage-treatment-plant-construction-regulations-1.5123974


  30. It doesnt take rocket science to understand natures role in keeping the enviroment sae and sound
    However what it takes ia a govt understanding that negatives that affect the envuroment cannot be cherry picked and hoisted before an unaware public for political gain sake
    Here we have a govt who has jumped out if the starting without knowing how many furlongs the horse needs to go
    The banning of plastic is a good example where this govr did not have alternatives for the public use


  31. More hotels more ‘shit’ ..I guess all will be going into the sea


  32. Miller

    “The Bajan government just cannot promote the blue economy as the lifeboat of economic sustainability of a future ‘restructured’ Barbados while there is a ‘planned’ strategy to continue to dump human waste in the sea to turn things real ‘brown’ and the skins of beachcombers red from health-challenging rashes.”

    They is no one from government that put forward a ‘planned’ strategy to continue dumping waste in the sea.

    You need to stop putting out false information!

    Both the Minister in charge and the PM (when she was opposition leader) spoke of upgrading the south coast plant.

    David will tell you that the outfall at Worthing was/is only expected to be a temporary measure and that the minister would like to find funds to upgrade to tertiary in another 8months or that up grade should have been finished in another 8 months.
    (I don’t see either of those scenarios happening).

    It is commendable that you want to protect the marine environment but its your alternate facts that are pulling you down.

    FACTS:

    The government (both) was pumping sewage into the sea for over 15 yrs and thing never turned ‘brown'( not even for one day).

    The skins of beachcombers never turned “red from health-challenging rashes” – even though you had millions of people in that sea over the years ( many of them repeated visitors/locals who would have been highly exposed).

    Please stop rushing all over the place to justify you opinion. We got it……you would like to see the dumping stopped ASAP.
    IT WILL HAPPEN – WHEN THE GOVERNMENT/ PEOPLE OF BARBADOS CAN AFFORD IT!

    It was not the intention to make the blue economy the lifeboat in two years. That is a long plan, just like the hotel corridor, and by the time one or both comes to being, the practice that you are so much against may be long into history!

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