Some have been following the intense negotiations in motion between the government of Barbados and external bondholders. Whether one agrees with the decision of the Mottley government to trigger SD, the bottomline is that this is where we find ourselves and ALL Barbadians must support the effort of the government through its agent White Oaks to close the best deal for the country.

Barbados is not the first country to trigger SD and will not be the last, let us get over it. Debt restructure comes in all shapes and sizes, if we breath some life into the economy the opportunity to improve credit ratings will come.

It is unfortunate some members of the political class prefer to nitpick instead of rallying around the flag at this juncture. The decision was made, move on!

White Oak is being paid very well to negotiate the best deal for Barbados. They have done similar deals for other countries and the principals are known to those sitting across the table. That some will want Barbados to cave to the creditors because we are the defaulter and therefore should accept terms offered by the lender is nonsense.

However this blogmaster agrees there is a need to demystify the matter for the average Barbadian to  assist with informing a national debate on the ramifications of a protracted negotiation.

Here is another article planted in the international press by the other side to pressure the government of Barbados.

-David, Barbados underground

Creditors prepare to push back on Barbados debt proposal

By Miluska Berrospi

NEW YORK, June 12 (IFR) – Investors are preparing to push back on a restructuring proposal released this week by the government of Barbados, sources told IFR on Wednesday.

After months of discussions with creditors, the government, which suspended debt payments last year, laid out on Tuesday two options for holders of its 7.25% 2021s, 7% 2022s and 6.625% 2035s.

But creditors, which had feared the government would launch an exchange without their consent, said such terms were unsatisfactory.

“We hope that before they actually launch an offer, the government will re-approach us and try to reengage in conversations,” said an investor involved in the process.

“If they launch something we’re prepared to reject it and wait,” he added.

The creditor committee comprising both dollar bond and loan holders are preparing a response for later this week, sources said.

“The government of Barbados has improved the proposed terms as much as it possibly can given its commitment under the IMF-support program,” the Barbados government said in a statement on Tuesday.

In October 2018, the International Monetary Fund (IMF)approved a US$290m bailout for the Caribbean nation.

“We are disappointed that they’re taking the tone that they are. We think it’s damaging to the country and to foreign investment,” added the investor.

Creditors would have about three weeks to respond were the government to launch a formal exchange offer on the options presented.

No payments have been made on outstanding debt since Prime Minister Mia Mottley took office in May of last year.

The country restructured around Bds$12bn (US$6bn) of domestic last October.

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/creditors-prepare-to-push-back-on-barbados-debt-proposal-20190612-00956

 

221 responses to “Barbados Pushing Back on External Creditors”


  1. @ William

    Yes you are right it is the same warmed over soup explanation

    @ Vincent.

    We have discussed this before and as we said then anytime you ask too many questions you anti-government. No problem I will be anti government then but pro state.
    You know them comments of party loyalty only annoy independent thinkers and cause them to hail an early ZR! LOL


  2. @John A

    Where is your comment asking too many questions coming from?

    You asked to have your concerns about this matter and it was done. We all are concerned, that said, some agree it is not a slam dunk. Some agree we need to voice respective concerns. Why can’t all perspectives content without labeling people?

    The government is pushing for the best deal and the creditors are doing same. It is a process precedent suggest can be difficult. Again let us hop WO can close the matter.


  3. @ David

    I am making a general statement that when one questions things government related you are called anti government. You know that too as just yesterday you posted on the blog the article about Argentina’s fall out from delaying their debt payments as a point of general education, I thanked you for doing it and a blogger came and asked me why I thanking you for!

    They are some that cuss you for not being critical and then they are some that will cuss you for asking questions.

    Fortunately I am blessed to be able to ignore all.


  4. A

    You keep putting out this thing about personal loans and keep thing the same conditions applies to sovereign loans.

    If Barbados is due to pay back $100 on a loan ($1000) tomorrow and tomorrow comes and it can only pay back $50 then (my limit knowledge) it has defaulted on that loan ( and it a whole different kettle of fish).

    What Barbados is trying to do is much more complex than your personal loans analogies – multiple (loans) defaults and restructuring of these loans.

    My limited understanding!


  5. keep thinking


  6. @John A

    You will always have dissenting perspectives motivated for different reasons. You have to remain focused is right.

  7. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ John2

    Why should the principles attached to a personal loan differ from a personal loan?

  8. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    Sorry. That should have been : “Why should the principles attached to a personal loan differ from a Sovereign loan?”


  9. @ John 2

    However you dress it up the outcome is the same . The creditors have not seen a cent nor will they see one for another 24 months.

    They don’t want to hear our problems what they do want is their money or at least some small token payment towards it.

    The same ethics that apply to loan payments are there for ALL loans. Pay me something better than paying me nothing. The option was there to do that as you confirmed. We chose not to so now we await the consequences.

    That is the facts whether some like it or not and I rest my case on this point.


  10. @ David.

    Yes you are correct as Wlilliam says you just got to ignore those who attempt to deflect knowledge for what ever reason.

    I


  11. VINCE
    Make your point!

    I think I have stated what I wanted to about A personal loans analogies. If I am wrong feel free to educate me!


  12. A
    If the want to see at AT LEAST A SMALL SUM. then the best thing for them to do is to settle ASAP

    Don’t you think?
    why drag it out if you want AT LEAST A SMALL SUM ?

    The sooner you settle the sooner you see your money.


  13. It is over a year since WO was hired to restructure and if not one loan deal has been accomplished, then there are questions to be asked of WO. We must not forget that WO gets $85k US per month agreement or no agreement. The longer this renegotiation takes, the more money in WO pockets. All who drew up the terms and conditions for WO was working in WO favour. I suspect the little short guy with the phony accent.


  14. A person loan can be cleared through bankruptcy?

    Can a sovereign loan be cleared through bankruptcy?


  15. A group of personal loans can be consolidated ?

    Can a group of sovereign loans be consolidated?


  16. @ Dame Bajans June 17, 2019 12:12 PM
    “The longer this renegotiation takes, the more money in WO pockets. All who drew up the terms and conditions for WO was working in WO favour. I suspect the little short guy with the phony accent.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So you also smell the rat which is nibbling at the Bajan taxpayers- made cheese from a foreign currency which has to be paid into foreign accounts?

    What a rat of a bull-shitter who made a good nest egg at the Four Seasons abject failure!


  17. Puerto Rico has struck a deal with its bondholders on how to restructure $35bn of debt, which could allow the island to emerge from bankruptcy in early 2020 after three painful years in financial limbo.
    Resolution of the US commonwealth’s debt pile has been complicated by its size, complexity, Puerto Rico’s knotty legal status and the destruction caused by Hurricane Maria in 2017.
    But on Sunday, its Financial Oversight and Management Board announced that a restructuring framework had finally been agreed with bondholders.
    Puerto Rico first began defaulting on some of its debts in 2015, but had to declare a full moratorium on payments three years ago. The oversight board was created as part of the Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act of 2016, or Promesa, which was designed to help the stricken statelet back to health.
    The deal will turn about $35bn of Puerto Rican debt into $12bn of bonds that are payable over the next three decades. Including principal repayment and interest, this will more than halve the island’s debt servicing to $21bn over the next 30 years, according to estimates from the oversight board.
    “The people of Puerto Rico will finally be able to live without the uncertainty of unsustainable government debt that so profoundly affected the commonwealth’s ability to attract investors, create jobs and economic growth,” Jose Carrión, the board’s chairman, said in a statement.
    The agreement entails a greater than 60 per cent haircut on the overall $35bn debt burden, a 36 per cent cut on “general obligation” bonds issued before 2012, and 27 per cent being shaved off the value of public authority bonds that carry a constitutional guarantee on payment.
    It follows a restructuring agreement for Puerto Rico’s sales tax-backed Cofina bonds in February, and accords struck earlier in the week with the local pension body on $55bn of pension claims and unions on collective bargaining and retirement.
    Together they will reduce annual debt service payments from $4.2bn a year to under $1.5bn.Puerto Rico’s oversight board plans to file an economic adjustment plan for the island within the next 30 days, and to formally emerge from bankruptcy by early 2020.
    “We have fought hard for the interests of the people of Puerto Rico and we are glad to have reached a consensual agreement with creditors that lowers Puerto Rico’s total debt burden and its annual debt payments significantly,” Natalie Jaresko, the oversight board’s executive director, said in the statement.
    “These were tough negotiations and we are confident we reached the best deal possible for Puerto Rico to move on from decades of incurring debt we could not afford,” she added.(Quote)

  18. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    Murdah. Pleased its not the BU bloggerati negotiating or we would fold like a house of cards. You have to s-t-r-etch them out, the fact they r complaining to foreign media shows their frustration.


  19. @ john 2 June 17, 2019 12:23 PM

    In order to get some kind of ‘buy-in’ from the man in the Bajan street wouldn’t it be ‘transparently’ nice to get a schedule showing the amount(s) owed to each creditor/bondholder, the name of the bondholder and the reason(s) for which the loan was taken?

    Then ‘ordinary’ Bajans in whom the Barrow government invested much intellectual capital would know the reason(s) for the sacrifice they are being corralled to make.


  20. One cannot discount that in Puerto agreement that there might have been a plausible connection taken into account the realities of the devastation brought to Puerto Rico during the hurricane
    What we see happening in barbados is a govt thumbing its nose at the external creditors all the while crying broke yet was able to find money to hire mulitmillon advisors
    Earlier in the negotiations the creditors did rake govt over the coals for such an expense


  21. The upside is that we have Barbadians paying an interesting in the deal to restructure with external creditors. Some for the wrong reasons. If we can bottle this interest as it applies to financial matters generally. It is no secret Barbadians, including the media is considered financial illiterates.


  22. PR was defaulting two years before the hurricane


  23. @ Mariposa June 17, 2019 1:01 PM

    Ms Many Pussies, didn’t the last DLP administration, with you singing alto in its choir, constantly blame the previous OSA administration for the current financial millstone around the Bajan taxpayers’ neck?

    So why didn’t your mercurial managers restructure the foreign debt portfolio instead of pushing the national debt from approx. $8 billion to over $15 billion?

    But what can we expect from a politically overrated and obese jackass called Stinkliar who couldn’t tell the difference between a decimal of a fraction of 0.03 and a % of 0.07.

    The Deliar doctor Worrell is having his comeuppance on both his loving DLP and his hated BLP.

    Do you remember when the same ‘worried’ Worrell used to blame the annual drop in foreign reserves on the Dodds prisons in order to justify visits to the foreign loan-sharks?

    It’s Time to face reality. Barbados is broke and it’s time you ‘poor-great’ Bajans face reality.
    You can no longer live the ‘sweet life’ buy borrowing other people’s money.


  24. @ Wily Coyote June 17, 2019 9:24 AM

    We should not be afraid of a currency devaluation. And for three reasons:

    Firstly, the inhabitants, most of whom are far too fat, lose their fat when the supermarket shelves are empty.

    Secondly, devaluation will penalise those who are responsible for most, namely lazy bureaucrats who have no access to foreign currency.

    Thirdly and finally, devaluation will raise work ethic.


  25. Miller

    You sure that you are not posting that question to David 🙂 ?

    Personally, I don’t feel that the majority ” average man” on the street need all of that information.
    Some do but not the majority.

    All of that information should be available some place. Where to find it? I cannot help you but maybe one of the other bloggers can.

    I don’t know if government will do it while negotiations are going on OR if there will publish names of BOND HOLDERS period.

    A loan from CDB, IMF etc you may have that information available.

    BOND HOLDERS ????


  26. @Miller

    Good point although the blogmaster would use kinder language.

    One cannot help but feel a good opportunity is being missed to educate Barbadians about the importance of producing, earning and the link to unaffordable conspicuous consumption behaviour.

  27. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    These are the culprits that have led us here.:
    The Democratic Labour Party
    The Barbados Labour Party
    An indolent lazy intellectual / academic class of political pimps and bold faced intellectual prostitutes
    A traditional Corporate Elite that has never put the interest of this country first.
    Until the above is corrected and eliminated we will remain here.

    What we need
    A new vision by a new political party or parties that will create a new political culture of nationhood and equal shares for all in the resources and wealth of the country
    An intellectual / academic class that will see themselves as the true guards of the state without selling their souls
    The creation of a new vibrant corporate/ business sector prepared to embrace worker ownership and participation in all business endeavors
    An educational system directly tied to these new goals and aspirations.
    Conclusion
    At this present time ,in office or opposition, inside or outside of parliament, there is no evidence that the required is present and or willing to come forward.


  28. @ Miller June 17, 2019 1:33 PM

    We can easily prevent the devaluation.

    All the Prime Minister has to do is dismiss 10,000 civil servants, freeze the remaining civil servants’ salaries for another 10 years and execute a second, much harder domestic debt cut. We also need to lower the minimum wage and pensions and lower taxes for investors and companies. It would also be conceivable not to allow any locals to depart until all taxes have been paid.

    Voters did not deserve better because they elected Chris Sinckler twice in 2008 and 2013. They must be punished for this.


  29. @William

    The emergence of this new class will come from where? From the same pool of indolents?


  30. What a silly post! Unbelievable…

    Barbados pushing back on external creditors? It is the creditors that are pushing back on the debt defaulters.

    @Blogmaster
    You do know what a default is, right?

    You know that there are also people on the creditor side depending on the projected cash flows too, right? Pensioners, retail investors, etc right?


  31. On 2nd reading. This post is even more garbage than I thought.

    All emotional claptrap.

    Comments like these, for example suggest that the Blogmaster has failed to grasp the gravity of the situation:
    Barbados is not the first country to trigger SD and will not be the last, let us get over it.

  32. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    Perhaps from within the current under 20s group. I think they are taking a more serious interest in what’s going on than we want to believe. I honestly don’t think that our beloved country is beyond hope.
    I still hold fast to my position that we are not a failed state.


  33. Tron:

    You provided the last piece of the puzzle for why the BLP are implementing unnecessary harmful policies, when mush better policies are available. You wrote at 2:25pm.

    “Voters did not deserve better because they elected Chris Sinckler twice in 2008 and 2013. They must be punished for this.”


  34. @Dullard

    Why has a group of creditors representing 55% hired DeLisle Worrell to consult/represent?

    You understand that creditor have agreed in principle to a haircut? What is your point again?


  35. @William

    The downside if what you suggest occurs is that the best experience to go by history requires a blend of youth and experience.

  36. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar

    “Firstly, the inhabitants, most of whom are far too fat, lose their fat when the supermarket shelves are empty.”

    should start with the 3,000 pounds of blubber in the parliament..start trimming pork and fat..

  37. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    3,000 divided by 30 equals 100

    If our MP’s are 100 pounds each I salute them all.

    Lolll!!!

  38. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar

    Not all of them are blubber, ya have to eliminate the walking dead and a few others…

    the pork is theirs and their parasitic consultant’s salaries..

    … the fat is the obese..on 2 legs


  39. @DAVID

    “One cannot help but feel a good opportunity is being missed to educate Barbadians about the importance of producing, earning and the link to unaffordable conspicuous consumption behaviour.”

    YOUR ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, opportunity being missed is IMMEDIATE CURRENCY DEVALATION to 20:1 for 2 years then total FLOAT. Tron has above proposed another solution to prevent devaluation to which Wily agrees is a viable alternative, however ultimately the currency needs to be devalued.

    It’s past time that Barbados ” bite the bullet”, ” drink the poison” and finally start to hopefully moving forward to financial stability. This future financially stable position will however be significantly socially lower than what Bajans presently enjoy.


  40. I lost track of the conversation here.’

    Is White Oak delivering?
    Did the fact that they were “:known” restructuring experts help with the negotiations?
    Did White Oak win over the creditors?
    Are the creditors happy?
    What did they do, that no Bajan could do
    Why has a group of creditors representing 55% hired DeLisle Worrell to consult/represent? (Quote)
    Is he a Bajan? If so why would creditors hire a man who know nothing about restructuring?
    Where did he gain his experience?
    How come we have to get our information from a foreign rag?

    Like I said, I lost track ….


  41. @Blogmeister
    Why has a group of creditors representing 55% hired DeLisle Worrell to consult/represent?
    Why don’t you enlighten the blog? Could it have something to do with using a local with expert knowledge and contacts on the ground?

    What does 55% have to do with anything? Do you think that the other 45% are happy to be losing money because no direct comments have been attributed to them (yet)?

    You understand that creditor have agreed in principle to a haircut? What is your point again?
    The point is that the Mugabe, White Hoax, The Mock Prof. and co. are taking the piss. The terms proffered by the govt are absurd.
    But don’t take the Dullard’s word, just look at the stalemate.


  42. The point is your reaction is based on nothing. What do you know except info released by the creditors to foreign newspapers. Continue to speculate.


  43. @David

    The truth is we know even less as no one has bothered to update us locally at all. All we are told is that negotiation can’t occur if we know, hence we will continue to speculate. Were it not for the foreign press we would know basically nothing in terms of how things are progressing.

  44. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @David. Are we sure that Paul Singer fund or others of his ilk are not among the external creditors? It therefore means that they can disagree with any haircut or any decsion not in their best interest and demand full payment like what happen to Argentina. Remember in Argentina case an overwhelmingly majority opted for a haircut, except the rouge figure Singer and his outfit.


  45. @ forty

    Good question but to be fair Singer wanted what was owed to him in full because in his view Argentina was treating the creditors like enemies. What Singer did was state his concerns and act whereas the rest waited and got their justice over the next 10 years by nailing them with loan conditions that were painful to say the least.

    Their view was what we lost we will get back with interest going forward and that is what they did. If you check the similarities between how Argentina approached their issue and how we are approaching ours they are major similarities.

  46. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    I don’t think we should have defaulted on the external debt. Why? The size of the external debt is not large enough in my opinion (less than 25% of total debt) to warrant a default. Plus because of our fixed exchange regime, their is no currency risk associated with our external debt payment.

    The payment to WO of us$24 million to restructure the internal portion of the debt is mind-blowing, when you considered that a large portion of the debt is owned by the NIS and the central bank. To infer that WO extrordinary payment might include kickbacks is not unreasonable.


  47. Why are people not questioning the dlp’s actions which made the sd unavoidable?

  48. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @john. Singer was still making killing on the haircut, because he bought Argentina debt for pennies on the dollar. He ended up with with a return of over 1200% when Macri of Argentina decides to bow to his demands. Look at Argentina today, is it any better?


  49. @ forty

    Yes and that’s the point they got past the 2004 issue and learnt nothing from it.

    The thing we need to bear in mind is that when all is said and done we will have to return to the same creditors for further financing and Those fellows got long memories!


  50. @fortyacresandamule

    You are not buying the explanation by government that the low reserve, upcoming hurricane season and heavy upcoming loan payments was a good reason to SD?

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