Submitted by Mervyn Greene, Managing Director, EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum

Thursday, 30th May

County Clare, Ireland

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

OPEN LETTER INVITES TRUMP TO CHANGE HIS VIEWS ON IMMIGRATION.

Ireland’s Emigration Museum offers the US President the opportunity to see immigration from a different angle.

President Donald Trump’s stance on immigration is well documented and debated, so when EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum heard about the POTUS visiting Irish shores, they felt a responsibility to extend an invitation. Through a full page open letter, they asked him to visit and reframe his views on immigration.

Over 10 million people emigrated from Ireland over the centuries – in many cases escaping famine, political unrest and civil war, others seeking opportunity and change. They settled all over the world as immigrants, and EPIC documents the stories of the impact they’ve had.

“EPIC represents an alternative voice on the global movement of people.  We have documented the positive impact that Irish emigration has had on the world, and we think it’s time the conversation on emigration changed.  This invitation goes out to President Trump with sincerity – come experience a different viewpoint on immigration and it might just change your perspective” says Mervyn Greene, Managing and Museum Director of EPIC.

The letter asks the President to consider his family’s own emigration story from Germany, and points out a number of examples of how Ireland’s emigrant stories have impacted his own life.

An excerpt from the letter:

“Allow us to share a few of our stories that might hit close to home for you. Irish emigrants played a huge part in shaping the Manhattan skyline. Descendants of Irish emigrants have held your very position in the Oval Office. The White House itself was designed by James Hoban, an Irish architect. Your Vice President Mike Pence is the grandson of an Irish emigrant who escaped war and poverty in 1923. You might even come across descendants of his great-grandmother, who hailed from Doonbeg.“

EPIC’s open letter was placed in the Clare Champion Newspaper, the biggest newspaper in County Clare, where President Trump will be staying at his family-owned golf club in Doonbeg during his visit to Ireland.  As a final enticement to the President, the letter suggests his visit would take less time than a round of golf.

 

EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum is a state-of-the-art interactive experience located in the beautiful vaults of the 1820 Custom House Quarter building in Dublin’s Docklands, the original departure point for so many of Ireland’s emigrants. Featuring personal stories of love, triumph, adventure and adversity, it highlights and celebrates the positive impact and influence of Irish emigrants around the world.  https://epicchq.com/


AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

Dear President Trump,

We’d like to extend an invitation to visit EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum during your upcoming visit.

We know your itinerary isn’t as flexible as most, but hear us out.

Your stance on immigration is well documented. As one of the world’s only museums dedicated to the emigrant experience, we’d like to offer a different point of view. At EPIC, the positive impact emigrants have had on the world is told through an Irish lens; it’s a narrative we’re proud to share with countless other countries.

Allow us to share a few of our stories that might hit close to home for you. Irish emigrants played a huge part in shaping the Manhattan skyline. Descendants of Irish emigrants have held your very position in the Oval Office. The White House itself was designed by James Hoban, an Irish architect. Your Vice President Mike Pence is the grandson of an Irish emigrant who escaped war and poverty in 1923. You might even come across descendants of his great- grandmother, who hailed from Doonbeg.

Your own family story has been shaped by emigration, when your grandfather Friedrich left Germany at age 16 to pursue opportunity in a new land. And the First Lady is another example of how a recent immigrant has made the most of a new opportunity to one day become FLOTUS. Needless to say, our invitation is open to Melania as well.

What we’re saying is that everyone has a connection to the story of emigration, and people often change their perspective once they see it told from many angles, both past and present.

We know you’ll have a busy presidential itinerary, but we promise you an enlightening experience in less time than it takes to play a round of golf.

 

Sincerely,

 

Mervyn Greene,

Managing Director,

EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum

83 responses to “Open Letter to Donald Trump from Ireland’s Emigration Museum”


  1. @ David
    “All Trump has to do is to appoint people of similar views in consular positions and he can alter the diversity of immigration. The consular officer hasn’t got to give a reason for turning done an applicant.”

    It doesn’t matter if SCOTUS rule on the matter: once Trump has positioned his people where it matters he will prevail. Personally, in Trump’s position I wouldn’t have said a word. I would have positioned my assets where they were needed and everything would have fallen into place.


  2. @Dr. Lucas

    If he is able to manipulate appointments as you want why would he want to go against the rule of law?

  3. Freedom Crier Avatar

    BRINGING THE REALITY HOME…DO YOU KNOW THE PROXIMITY OF BARBADOS TO TRINIDAD?

    Trinidad has more ISIS Fighters Proportionate to their Population than any Country in the World. Should PM MAM Still Encourage the Free Movement of CARICOM People Knowing this?

    The Globalist will use the Islamist by way of Pursuing the Open Boarders to Conquer Nations. They share the same Ideology ‘to take away the Free Agency of man’. That is their Ideology of Communism/Marxism/Socialism and Radical Islamism. The First Rule of the Left and Radical Islam is that of Submission to bring about their Elitist Purposes…A sure process of Deceit and Decay bringing all that would listen and obey into Slavery and Bondage.

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    IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, IT ISN’T A FREEKING PARROT!

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  4. @ David
    The rule of law? There is little difference between so-called democratic countries and undemocratic countries. In the latter one knows what to expect.: in the former a semblance of law exists which favor the rich and powerful. In any event, the constituent has given the president all of the power and the courts are over stepping their mandate. There is the Reith on the BBC ( at present): a past member of the UK ‘s supreme court is worried by the over reach of the judiciary into matters that are the domain of politicians and he sees this over reach as threatening democracy. This precisely what is wrong in this case. The constitution of America is quite clear that the president hold sway on immigration not the courts. No one voted for the judiciary, yet the judiciary acts as if it is so.


  5. @Dr. Lucas

    Thanks for sharing your views, the upcoming period leading into the presidential election will afford the opportunity to witness how this matter plays out. Good to see you not afraid to step outside your comfort area.


  6. @ David
    you are welcome.

  7. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Mr Blogmaster, the blogger @Lawson makes a point… painfully non PC though it may be. Immigration – forced or freely extended – by its nature will ALWAYS dramatically change the texture and culture of the hosting nation and when the differences between the immigrants and citizens are as stark as skin colour or diametrically different religious beliefs its always quite facile for agitators to focus on some aspect of those differences and incite hatred and resentment ….so yes the low cost labour at point A can become a major headache around point T!

    Trump has bluntly stated what type of immigrant he wants so all the fancy footwork about highly skilled folks is window shade to block a clear view of that intent!

    @Theo, on point above. Shocking twist and turns…absolutely shocking!

    @Dr. Lucas, you have emphatically stated your credentials on this blog as a scientist ….so having credentialed yourself as a man who lives professionally by the rigueur of hard data leading to decisions I find your political discourse to be shockingly hypocritical!

    Which one is it doc…should we expect your decisions to be based on factual, accurate portrayals of data or are you a gun-for-hire style professional who manipulates his data to dissemble the results you desire?

    It’s RIDICULOUS to present on one hand reasoned positions of immigration but mix that in with bluntly FALSE or HALF TRUE assertions …. which scientist do YOU know who has maintained his reputation with that approach!

    It is VALID to assert that US immigration policy needs a purposeful revamp and that some hard decisions need to be made.

    It is FALSE to assert that the hot-air rhetoric from Trump re merit based policies or “hold it a bit ,lets stop immigration from Muslim countries until we figure out what the hell is going on?” is some awesome “common sense factual statement”.

    Since several years now and certainly after more updating and changes under the past admin it takes at LEAST 18 months to two years for any immigrant out of a Muslim country to get a resident visa approval…and with those seeking refugee status the riguer is more complex.

    You MUST know this as a man focused on properly researching your subjects of interest so one can ONLY presume you are a gun-for-hire style fellow.

    It is ABSOLUTELY FALSE to assert that Trump may not have made the ‘shitho–‘ comment. Whether he used that specific phrase ending in hole is irrelevant because he never denied (nor any participants) using similar disparaging cuss words.

    What’s the point of that BS walkback… that’s the man and how he talks and has acted throughout his life.

    And you label a man like Mueller partisan. Freaking amazing!

    However, I agree with you : Trump may (can) win in 2020.

  8. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David, respectfully senor, please press your esteemed docs on their loose, bluntly biased, HALF truths.

    In which context is this NOT a puerily political rift :They were pissed because he fired Comey: the latter incident was the spur to launch the investigations,”

    WHO are they (beyond the deep state trope)?

    The then recently appointed Dep AG of the US who was the official top law officer on this presidential matter re Russian interference appointed Mueller…he did so after his president 1)…inveigled him to write a letter for said Comey dismissal as a ruse for the Pres’s intent to terminate because the FBI director had not towed the line requested by the President. 2) …after considering all the facts and recognizing that it would be impossible to have a trusted analysis/investigation unless the enquiry was FREE of any presidential influence/control.

    Those are the hard facts. If this was an Obama, Bush or Clinton admin those SAME facts would absolutely warrant the same action by any AG or Dep AG… That’s what is supposed to happen under rules in a lawful society.


  9. if you interchange muslim terrorist with ebola why is it okay then to put a halt to visas from 3 countries affected like Canada and austrailia did from Africa . Lets put the brakes on and see what is happening seems like a sane and logical response to an outside threat but its all political make trump look bad at any cost that’s why they will lose again.

  10. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re Personally, in Trump’s position I wouldn’t have said a word. I would have positioned my assets where they were needed and everything would have fallen into place.

    I AGREE WITH YOU 100% DR LUCAS
    TRUMP NEEDS TO ACT AND TALK LESS

  11. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    FACTS INDICATE THAT MUELLER EITHER DESTROYED EVIDENCE OR HID IT
    Steven Ahle JUNE 2, 2019

    New evidence clearly shows that special counsel Robert Mueller violated the Brady Act. The Brady Act requires prosecutors to turn over all exculpatory evidence to the defense. He did not do that in the case of Michael Flynn.

    The judge in Flynn’s case ordered Mueller to turn over the FBI’s 302s from their interview with Flynn. Mueller turned over 302 written months after the interview. We now know that FBI Agent Joe Pientka did write a 302 on the Flynn interview because it’s mentioned in the Strzok/Page texts. Agent Pientka tried to testify for Flynn but Rod Rosenstein refused to let him.

    Pientka said at the time that he believed Flynn was telling the truth.

    From the minute Judge Emmet G. Sullivan received the case against Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, which will be decided on Tuesday, he ordered Mueller to provide the defense with all Brady material. Last week, Judge Sullivan specifically ordered Mueller to produce any FBI interview reports — called 302s — or memoranda relevant to the original interview of Gen. Flynn. Ironically, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley has been requesting the agents’ notes and 302s for two years. Did Mueller comply?

    Remarkably, but not surprisingly to those who have read my book, Mueller has thumbed his nose at Judge Sullivan’s order. He produced only a 302 created by his own squad seven months later from his own agent’s interview of none other than the infamous, fired-for-bias, disgraced, Trump-loathing, former Agent Peter Strzok — the guy who swore he’d “stop” President Trump and devised “an insurance policy” with his mistress Lisa Page and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe in case Trump won the election. We are watching Mueller execute that insurance policy by the day.

    The evidence indicates Mueller has destroyed or is suppressing Brady material. There was an original 302 created within five days — by FBI protocol — of the Jan. 24, 2016 ambush interview of General Flynn by two agents — Strzok and Special Agent Joe Pientka. It is mentioned in the Strzok-Page text messages and on page four of the recrafted 302 Mueller filed. Comey read the original 302 before he was fired.

    SEEMS MUELLER IS A VERY NAUGHTY BOY
    TIME FOR HIM TO BE EMBARRASSED PUBLICLY BEFORE THE SENATE


  12. @ Robert Lucas

    Jonathon Sumption, the recently retired judge in the UK’s Supreme Court and an outstanding former academic historian, was also the brightest (intellectual) lawyer of his generation. I am glad you are listening to the Reith Lectures. In the old days you used to get a printed version. Now you get a so-called podcast.
    Plse note t he quality of public discussions.,

  13. Freedom Crier Avatar

    THIS DIRTY COP is a COWARD accustomed having others do his dirty work like how he is handing the baton to the Dems to clobber the president while he stands back UN-spotted.

    REMEMBER HO WAS THE HEAD OF THE FBI UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND WHO DELIVERED THE SAMPLE OF URANIUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO THE RUSSIANS!!

    This MINION will suffer the TRUMP CURSE and fall into the hole that he dug for the president…when the truth comes out it will cause a domino effect taking down all these nefarious Swamp Creatures.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1696131553865733&set=gm.1047122945677537&type=3&theater

    Each day more comes out about all that was happening and each day it becomes more obvious just how close we were to permanently losing the White House and eventually Congress to the Democratic Party…

    THINK ABOUT IT! With a partisan FBI, DOJ, IRS, State Department, CIA, & Media, ALL willing to do whatever was necessary with no regard for the law, consider where we would have been if that trajectory had continued for another 8 years under Hillary….

    In all honesty, I don’t think there would have been any chance of recovery short of a civil war… Thank God Trump came along & screwed up their plans.. And, when you consider how close the Democratic Party was to taking full control of our government, it’s a little more understandable why they HATE Trump so much…

    https://www.facebook.com/ConservativeReiding/photos/a.1440085059363905/2387667191272349/?type=3&theater

    https://scontent.fbgi3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/61171480_2387667194605682_6299955375206563840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbgi3-1.fna&oh=5ce0023d1687d0a686b09ee9f95dc212&oe=5D5D1439


  14. @ Robert Lucas,

    I have just checked. They still do the transcripts.


  15. @ de pedantic Dribbler June 2, 2019 11:38 AM
    I have just logged on but I will be out for the next 3hrs. When I return I will analyze your comments fully.

    @ Hal Austin
    I try to keep up to date. Johnathon Sumption take at first surprised me: there is hope yet for the legal profession.

  16. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Georgie Porgie at 10:17 a.m.

    Bus sadly your good buddy trump does not seem to understand what “talk less” means

  17. Freedom Crier Avatar

    “Mr. Mueller doesn’t want his investigation to be scrutinized; Mr. Mueller doesn’t want to be cross-examined by the Republicans; he doesn’t want any questions about his hirings, about his decisions, about his conduct, about the leaks, about omitting Hillary Clinton, the dossier, the top levels of the FBI, about his coziness with Comey, about whether or not his office leaked … ” — Mark Levin…

    Mueller has some very shady stuff in his past, Uranium 1 happening to be one of the highlights. At the time he was the Director of the FBI and they were investigating MULTIPLE crimes by the Russians to get control of the US Uranium industry.

    IF he had raised a single flag about these Russian crimes, Hillary’s Uranium 1 deal would have been immediately sunk and he knew it… Soooo, why did he keep it under wraps? My guess is he’s afraid someone will find out if Trump stays in office…

    Now, to add the cherry on top of Mueller’s less than ethical past, he has 2 years of running an investigation that was nothing more than a shady, political coup against a US President…

    IF Barr starts investigating Mueller & his team, the answers he will find, when added together, will likely lead to criminal charges…

    Oh yah, Mueller is very scared and he should be…

    And, that’s why he sounded like he was ready to break down and cry at his press conference as he practically begged Congress to impeach Trump…

    Even if they do impeach Trump, it will never pass the trial in the Senate, so there’s nothing to worry about, BUT, that’s not the point of the impeachment…

    The Dems & the Deep State DESPERATELY NEED to keep Trump on the defensive, hopefully resulting in Barr holding off on indictments which could look like political retaliation, until they can HOPEFULLY get Trump out of office in 2020, fire Barr, & sweep all the crimes back under the rug…

    THIS is the their hail Mary…

    https://www.facebook.com/2339246286347770/photos/a.2339297946342604/2344986159107116/?type=3&theater


  18. @ Robert Lucas

    Legal debate does not have to be about case law. Legal philosophy and legal theory, socio-legal studies, are just as important for extending knowledge..


  19. Looks endorses Boris.


  20. @ de pedantic Dribbler June 2, 2019 11:38 AM

    I have just read your posting. A couple of facts stand out.
    1.. you seem to want to attribute to me infallible powers. I am certainly not infallible. I am honored that you have placed me in the hallow company with the likes of Lord Kelvin and Einstein, both of whom at some points in their careers disseminated false or incorrect data. Kelvin in 1883 as the president of the Royal Society made the assertion that X-rays were a hoax and Einstein in 1932 came up with a cosmological constant to explain the mathematics in the equations for an unchanging universe. The universe was subsequently shown to be expanding and not unchanging.

    2.Students are always advised to carefully read their exam scripts before answering questions.. If you had taken your time to read the postings, you would have observed the posting by David at 6.53 am which gave a link for me to investigate. My subsequent posting at 8.24 am is implicit in acknowledging that there was some truth to the link provided as clearly shown by “..How do you think other white countries refer to black countries? The other countries don’t say it openly. To tell you the truth, Trump might ( operative word is might) have a point considering the action of black dictators towards their own people.” Note my use of English: implicit is the acknowledgement that Trump actually said the words alluded to.

    3 I seem to detect some anger in your posting towards the description of black countries as “.shit hole countries”. In my field of science such negative terms are seem often ( James Watson and his opinion of the lack of intelligence of blacks’: William Shockley the inventor of the transistor found that black music was okay but that blacks couldn’t tackle abstract reasoning and so on. It doesn’t accomplish anything by getting emotional; blacks have to strive like the Jews did and excel in the sciences. Blacks also have to purge their countries of corrupt politicians who want to keep them in perpetual poverty

    4 I stand by my opinion of Mueller as “a man of low moral turpitude”.

  21. Freedom Crier Avatar

    robert lucas June 2, 2019 7:43 PM

    RE “I stand by my opinion of Mueller as “a man of low moral turpitude”. Amen and Amen!

    LEVIN: MUELLER ‘WANTED TO GIVE THE DEMOCRATS EVERYTHING THEY WANTED’ FOR IMPEACHMENT

    LevinTV host Mark Levin lambasted the widely discussed press conference held by special counsel Robert Mueller.

    Levin took issue with Mueller’s implication that President Trump was apparently somehow responsible for proving his own innocence against politically motivated allegations of collusion and obstruction.

    Earlier that day, a visibly nervous Mueller told reporters, “If we had confidence that the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” which isn’t the job of a prosecutor.

    “The Fifth Amendment is what provides us with due process in this country; the Sixth Amendment is what provides us with the right to a jury trial; the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments are what provide us with presumption of innocence,” Levin explained. “And, of course, none of those applied against the president of the United States, because he is the president of the United States.”

    Levin also criticized Mueller for going “beyond” his report in Wednesday’s press conference “because he wanted to give the Democrats everything they wanted today, because his report didn’t go far enough. Moreover, the Democrats were very upset with this report. Therefore, Mr. Mueller went beyond his report. Now why did Mr. Mueller go beyond his report to give the Democrats what they wanted today? Because Mr. Mueller doesn’t want to testify in public before Congress, and the Democrats control these committees in the House of Representatives, specifically the Judiciary Committee. … Mr. Mueller doesn’t want his investigation to be scrutinized; Mr. Mueller doesn’t want to be cross-examined by the Republicans; he doesn’t want any questions about his hirings, about his decisions, about his conduct, about the leaks, about omitting Hillary Clinton, the dossier, the top levels of the FBI, about his coziness with Comey, about whether or not his office leaked. … Mr. Mueller doesn’t want to answer any of a thousand and one questions that would be posed to him by the Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee. So he gave the Democrats what they wanted today.”

    “This man has done more damage to our Constitution by turning our justice system inside out, by violating our Bill of Rights, by undermining this president than Vladimir Putin could ever hope to do,” Levin concluded. “And I’m no fan of Vladimir Putin, as you well know.”

    https://www.facebook.com/TeaPartyRockers/photos/a.482663421829888/2205149326247947/?type=3&theater

  22. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Doc Lucas, not sure how you arrived at #3. I have no anger towards anyone and Trump particularly for the negative descriptive terms they use for Blacks or anyone else… such are the joys of free speech.

    Re Mueller, that’s also your free will. I am not privvy to any data which you may have that led to your conclusion. I am not aware that Mueller was implicated in leaking info to Whitey Bulger and that entire sordid mess of Bulger as informant and still operating his criminal enterprise so viciously…so I take the man’s career on the entirety of what’s in public domain thus I give him good marks as a just and reasoned man.

    Similarly Comey…they both prosecuted Dem and Repub politicians and worked well with both too.

    Re #2..I surely am missing your thrust. I would not expect that you would make grand statements and need to be corrected by links provided by the Blogmaster! As I suggested you credentialed yourself as a man of thorough, well researched analysis…notwithstanding your references to famous failings of research!


  23. @ de pedantic Dribbler

    You seem to want to make me omniscient. Thanks for the plaudit.

    Like


  24. @ robert lucas June 2, 2019 7:43 PM
    “I seem to detect some anger in your posting towards the description of black countries as “.shit hole countries”. In my field of science such negative terms are seem often ( James Watson and his opinion of the lack of intelligence of blacks’: William Shockley the inventor of the transistor found that black music was okay but that blacks couldn’t tackle abstract reasoning and so on. It doesn’t accomplish anything by getting emotional; blacks have to strive like the Jews did and excel in the sciences. Blacks also have to purge their countries of corrupt politicians who want to keep them in perpetual poverty..”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    But there is some ‘evidential validity’ to what Watson -one of the duo of the DNA double helix model, something known by the Sumerians thousand of years before– has posited.

    How else can you explain a black-skinned person believing uncontestedly in a god called Yahweh and his son Jesus aka Horus or Helios with white skin and blue eyes?

    Blacks are the most stupid creatures on God’s green Earth.
    Science to blacks in general is like Light to the Devil or the existence of order to Apep or Apophis.

    If you want to hide any thing (knowledge or science) from a black person put it in a book (except the Jewish manuscript of lies, legends and myths).

    Here is the sixty-four-dollar question:
    How come blacks (when they migrate to ‘white’ countries) become the servants to other races and the social peripherals but the reverse is true when other races migrate to countries politically controlled by blacks, generally speaking?

    How come, in Barbados, the local blacks work for the immigrant ‘Indian’ community (mainly Muslim) which own and control their own economic space unlike the blacks?

    How long should naïve blacks continue to be hewers of wood and drawers of water for ‘others’ while their own go without and even ‘godless’?

    Until blacks see the Light and come to the true ‘Christian’ understanding as to ‘Who’ or ‘What’ created them with their black skins, then black people will always remain in perpetual darkness as to their origin and to their destiny and role among the many colourful fabrics of humanity.


  25. @Miller
    How come, in Barbados, the local blacks work for the immigrant ‘Indian’ community (mainly Muslim) which own and control their own economic space unlike the blacks?

    ++++++++++++++
    Isn’t that a consequence of growing up stupid under the Union Jack? We always worked for someone, one day we were slaves working on the Plantation after we were freed we still worked on the Plantation. When the Colonial Gov’t withdrew its administrators in the Gov’t we replaced them and worked for the Gov’t, the few people who went into business or artisans (read shopkeepers, blacksmiths, masons etc.) educated their children so they wouldn’t follow in their footsteps wasn’t the patriarch of the Tappin/ Simmons clan a blacksmith out of St. Philip? What happened to the children of the village shopkeeper who received some education? Did they grow the business to become Supermarkets or did they gravitate to become lawyers, dentists or accountants?

    And speaking of gravitating, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, what economic space are you occupying?


  26. @ Sargeant June 3, 2019 11:36 AM
    “Isn’t that a consequence of growing up stupid under the Union Jack?”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t blame ‘Colonialism’ for the current economic and social state of black Bajans.

    Didn’t the same East Indian community ‘emigrate’ from a country which was under the same British colonial rule?

    The ancestors of East Indian community in the Caribbean and Africa were themselves Dalits?
    So where does that place blacks in the pecking order of racial ranking?

    Do you remember what took place in Uganda and Kenya (and even South Africa) involving the same East Indians?

    The difference between blacks and East Indians in the Western world is that East Indians have kept their culture(s) including their gods. They do not see the white man as their ‘superior’.
    Can the same be said for blacks?

    The miller is just like you, the sargeant; a pensioned parasite sucking on the blood of welfare from the white man’s land.

  27. Freedom Crier Avatar

    FEAR GRIPS THE EU

    EVEN MERIEL IS RETHINKING HER RETIREMENT BY USING SCARE TACTICS ON THE GERMAN PEOPLE…

    https://www.facebook.com/cbnnews/videos/2541915082507748/


  28. Miller
    Dalits you say? A Guyanese co-worker told me she came from Brahmin stock 😊…. But I believe if you arrived as indentured servants who had a common language, religion and background it is much easier to maintain your culture and status than if you came from myriad tribes with different languages and different cultures and were kept in subjugation for 2-3 hundred years it is impossible to calculate what has been lost. Do you know of any descendant of the Atlantic slave trade that has maintained his original family name from Africa? We all come by our names via some European person or place, some of us have tried to reclaim African names but we are guessing or applying what seems appropriate. If we had any “gods” they have been lost like our names in the mist of time and it was simple to adopt the “gods’ of the conqueror

    The indentured servants in Guyana and Trinidad were mainly small landowners in their native India and as soon as they were discharged from their obligations they returned to the land and that fueled some of their economic success it is easier to build on what you know, again culture is important. BTW every god forsaken little town in Canada has a Chinese Restaurant and some of the owners had never operated or worked in a Restaurant before but their culture prepared them to work for themselves and they saw what worked for their kin and succeeded by trial and error.

    As for Uganda,Kenya etc. what historical conditions preceded the economic domination of one group over the other? South Africa had laws that made everyone including East Indians superior to “Bantus” in the pecking order.


  29. @ Sargeant,

    In the UK we have people from all over the world, and among the newer immigrants Caribbeans have been here in large numbers longer. Since their arrival, the Chinese, as you say, have embarked on opening a large number of take-away restaurants. I have a friend who is a Big Four accountants, but in the evenings and at weekends she works in her parents East London restaurant.
    The corner shops in our major cities have been dominated by the Asians (Indians and Pakistanis), along with medicine and some other professions; but, in large, Caribbean people prefer to be employees, mainly in the public sector, and they shy away from self-employment.
    The pub trade in Britain has been under enormous pressure for a long time. As a result I have been suggesting that we should buy a large pub (a trust would be able to raise a commercial mortgage, or it could be a good investment for the NIS) and use it as a community facility, complete with accommodation, a restaurant, a library – called Barbados House.
    Of course, there was lots of opposition. I then suggested that before we go ahead we should set up a working party to look at the idea. One man was so angry at the very idea of a working party he screamed there was no need for it. Some time later the high commission re-named itself Barbados House. No connection, of course.
    In the meantime, every function we put on we must hire a room (the Holiday Inn is a favourite). I will cut it short, but you could look at care homes, the private coach sector, credit unions, etc. All of which we have had enormous collective experience, but have failed to take the next step – ownership.

  30. Freedom Crier Avatar

    Hal Austin June 4, 2019 5:24 AM “I will cut it short, but you could look at care homes, the private coach sector, credit unions, etc. All of which we have had enormous collective experience, but have failed to take the next step – ownership.”

    Miller June 3, 2019 12:02 PM “The miller is just like you, the sargeant; a pensioned parasite sucking on the blood of welfare from the white man’s land.”

    SOME PREFER TO LIVE OFF THE WELFARE STATE…

    THE WAY FORWARD FOR ANY COUNTRY IS TO DEVELOP AN ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT & CLASS AND NOT EVERY PRIME MINSTER A LAWYER.

    PROSPERITY STARTS WITH INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY.

    SELF-RELIANCE/INDEPENDENCE

    Self-reliance is more than having a good job, or money in the bank. As people become self-reliant, they enthrone work as a ruling principle in their lives.

    “SELF-RELIANCE IS A PRODUCT OF OUR WORK AND UNDER-GIRDS ALL OTHER WELFARE PRACTICES. ‘Let us work for what we need. Let us be self-reliant and independent.’

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    DONALD TRUMP CALLS MAYOR OF LONDON SADIQ KHAN A ‘STONE COLD LOSER’

    US President Donald Trump called Sadiq Khan, a “stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London”, which Followed Khan’s attack on the President, ahead of his three-day state visit to the UK.

    A spokesperson for Mr Khan said the “childish insults should be beneath the president of the United States”.

    In the past Donald Trump challenges Sadiq Khan to IQ test…Speaking on Good Morning Britain, Donald Trump had challenged the new London mayor to an IQ test after Sadiq Khan said he was ignorant. Mr Khan reacted to Mr Trump’s latest comments, saying his views on Islam were ignorant.

    The US president used an interview ahead of his UK visit in 2018 to say how he saw Sadiq Khan Reaction over the wave of terror attacks in the capital. He also blamed the mayor for a rise in immigration, saying “look at all the crime brought in”.

    In an interview the US president hit out at immigration into Europe, describing the movement of “millions of people” as “very sad”.

    “Take a look at the terrorism that is taking place. Look at what is going on in London. I think he [Mr Khan] has done a very bad job on terrorism”, Mr Trump said.

    “I think he has done a bad job on crime, if you look, all of the horrible things going on there, with all of the crime that is being brought in.”

    Mr Trump …”At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is “no reason to be alarmed!”

    As he came in to land, Mr Trump wrote: “Sadiq Khan, who by all accounts has done a terrible job as Mayor of London, has been foolishly ‘nasty’ to the visiting President of the United States, by far the most important ally of the United Kingdom.

    “He is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London, not me.

    “Kahn [sic] reminds me very much of our very dumb and incompetent Mayor of NYC, de Blasio, who has also done a terrible job – only half his height.

    That’s a Trump’s Kill Shot …Two Leftist Birds with one Shot!

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