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Prince Charles and Camillia

(Barbados Nation) Their Royal Highnesses, The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall will pay an official visit to Barbados on Tuesday, March 19, as part of a Caribbean tour. During the visit, they will participate in several events, including a parade and wreath-laying ceremony at the Cenotaph in National Heroes Square and a reception at which they will be able to interact with a cross-section of Barbadians.

A great deception of the last decade was the promise made by a Stuart led government to move the country to a republic. To quote former Prime Minister Freundel Stuart …”he said he found it awkward in the year 2015 to have to stand up and pledge allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen.

This is one of many examples how members of the political class demonstrate little compunction by making empty promises to a gullible public it swore to serve. A public that tolerates a level of disrespect by not holding them (members of the political class) accountable for their repeated empty mouthings.

If there is one thing that makes the blood of the blogmaster boil, it is the ignorance of so-called educated Barbadians meekly swearing allegiance to the Queen.  Surely it makes a mockery of the idea we are a sovereign country by any definition. As a people how can we inculcate values in our people – especially young minds – to nurture a feeling of patriotism? Isn’t it the feeling of patriotism that must define us?  Why do our parents not feel a level of abhorrence listening to our leaders swear the oath of allegiance to the Queen?

Disgusting!

All people have a history: ours (Black people) is the never ending struggle to overcome a deep psychological scar resulting from the practise of slavery by people from a country we continue to swear an oath of allegiance.  It is the responsibility of  an educated Barbadian class  to purge symbols and messages which are the vestige of a colonial past and serve only to create a conundrum about life for our people.

A story appeared in a section of the British media last week that reinforced a view. Here is a quote from the article:

Racist letters penned in the 1920s by the then Prince of Wales about Aboriginal Australians – calling them ‘revolting’ and comparing them to monkeys – will be explored in a new documentary.

The future King Edward VIII, who was then known as David, expressed his disdain for the Indigenous population during a Royal tour in 1920, when he visited all six Australian states.

His opinions were revealed in letters to his then mistress, married English socialite Freda Dudley Ward. She was the future King’s lover between 1918 to 1923 and they remained close until 1936, when he met American divorcee Wallis Simpson, who he gave up the throne for later that year.

Full article in the Daily Mail –

The most revolting form of living creatures I’ve ever seen’: Edward VIII’s racist letters to his mistress comparing Australian Aboriginal people to ‘monkeys’ are explored in a new documentary

How is it possible for a majority Black nation (Barbados) to continue to swear allegiance to actors of a country which harboured virulent racist sentiment?  There was a time we had to slavishly sing along to rule Britannica. We need to purge all references to the British monarchy to save to our young minds IF we want to grow a proud nation – independent and free.

 

 

189 responses to “Don’t Come Prince Charles – Purging the Monarchy Growing a Republic”

  1. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    I’m disappointed… can you not muster anything better than ad hominem?

    If you’d like to have an actual discussion I am waiting.

  2. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    PS the subject here is the history and political science of the connection of Barbados to the British monarchy on the occasion pof the visit from the Prince of Wales.


  3. Third rail of Barbados politics? The queen? Royalty?
    Ya think they call we little England for fun?
    Dat is we queen.
    How dis republic thing gun work…..

  4. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    Just to correct the record I didn’t win a Barbados scholarship, I won an Aubrey Collymore scholarship, so I cost the Barbadian taxpayer nothing.


  5. @ PLT

    Plse see my earlier contribution which you responded to, I will love to have a serous discussion with you about Republicanism. But your reply was juvenile and silly. The problem started from 1627? Are you serious? Is that a serious contribution? Plse explain. You just cannot make a statement like that and walk away. You owe the blog a proper explanation. I am familiar with what passes in Barbados as debating.
    @PLT You constantly boast about your level of education, your contribution to community groups, your friendship with a suspected drug dealer, all of which is laudable, yet your contributions to BU are nearly always below what any intelligent person would expect. We know the village jokers, but you must raise your game.
    We have had one contributor who described Barbados, in all seriousness, as a Democratic Republic, headed by a foreign monarch.
    The sad thing is that rebutting this appalling argument takes up a lot of time and in the process makes me look as if I am a Royalist, which I am not. Let us go back to the Henry Forde report, and even though I was misquoted in it, let us use that to launch a fresh discussion.


  6. I think Hal caught a fresh fish
    Watch how Hal works it..


  7. Place blame where it should be placed (that is )where it all started
    The British Monarchy swims in pomp and royalty off the blood and sweat of the poor
    Camille and Charles are the off spring
    Reparations PLEASE
    Nothing more nothing less
    The Royal visit to barbados should be one of sending a message to the Royal Palace
    WE Will Never Forget


  8. The BLOGMASTER and his followers sarcasm is wearing a little thin, is the pressure of a FAILING STATE starting to show, Wilys eating fried chicken and pie sitting on a shitless colonial beach enjoying the white sand and sun, BLOGMASTER has none. Pressure is mounting, food is getting costly, need armed escort when leaving the house, Venusuala here we come.

    Is DESPERATION building……


  9. So…. Bajan blacks are the most racist people of all…….

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    So …. if Bajan blacks want to reject the symbol of the British Monarchy that enslaved us that is racist?????

    Note here that those who want to keep it are white. But I guess whites are incapable of racism. Right?

    David, if you want a discussion on the merits of becoming a republic you cannot leave out the racial aspect. This clinging to the apron strings is a mental deficiency as PLT said. Barbados was built on racism and subjugation of the black man. The monarchy is a symbol of that. That is reason enough for it to go, in my opinion. I see no need for further discussion. You others may proceed without me.


  10. Of course the issue of race must be recognized and discussed. Some believe to discuss race is taboo even if it is being discussed in the very UK, USA and other developed countries that owe wealth creation to the institution of slavery.

    Will never happen on BU. Race will always be discussed in its proper perspective.

  11. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    We have had one contributor who described Barbados, in all seriousness, as a Democratic Republic, headed by a foreign monarch.

    And how would you, Hal, with your extensive knowledge of constitutional theory, describe Barbados ?

  12. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Donna…ah done discoursing with useless jackasses., we expected the backward idiots who refuse to acknowledge that the RACISM JIG…USED BY UK, US ETC TO TERRORIZE BLACK PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM DISENFRANCHISED PERMANENTLY….is over.

    now let them cry their racist eyes over their sunday lunch…ah hope they choke…lol

    that is me being my loving self.


  13. And how would you, Hal, with your extensive knowledge of constitutional theory, describe Barbados ? (Quote)

    Don’t be facetious with me, laddie. It does not work. I did not go to school and cannot even write my name, far less be a constitutional expert. But I know Barbados is a constitutional monarchy – which is what it is.


  14. My back door remained open on a latch until after nine last night. My son walked home from a nearby birthday party after midnight without an armed escort. I often walk to a nearby mini mart at eight o’ clock and the village shop after nine. No escort. I hang out clothes in the middle of the night. The beach down the hill from my house still has clean white sand. I am having white rice with kidney beans on the side for lunch along with some wonderful black belly lamb. Plenty salads. Washing down with home made sorrel.

    Barbados has problems that need immediate attention. We have let some serious horses out of the stable. But from what I can see neither Britain nor the USA have got things right either. They are in political turmoil. Toxic. I am still not regretting my decision to stay here.

    David, a few weeks ago Bush Tea and I made fun of you for still following West Indies cricket and looking for wins. I have since had to eat my hat. I will join you in Hopeland..

    There is much work to be done.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/238726/shake-coming

    A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.

    At least here we have an acknowledgment of a problem. Let us hope that a realization of mortality has done its job!

    But we still need to break free from mental slavery and so I hope we have more than some dressing up, dancing and singing in a Black History month.

    And I hope we get rid of the blighted monarchy!


  15. @Donna

    The old generation even when struggling under the weight of life never gave up hope for a brighter tomorrow for their children.

    Some things must NEVER change.

  16. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Don’t be facetious with me, laddie. It does not work. I did not go to school and cannot even write my name, far less be a constitutional expert. But I know Barbados is a constitutional monarchy – which is what it is.

    Mr Austin, And if we are a monarchy…will you be our monarch after the demise of the Queen Of ENGLAND?…Will we even have a say in who assumes that Barbadian throne? Would we have become an emirate if we had provided for the Emir of Oman to be our head of state?

    Laddie, indeed!!

  17. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    For the racist liars and hypocrites and the STILL horribly mentally self-enslaved……eat crow.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-14/to-sir-with-love-author-er-braithwaite-dies-aged-104/8118780?pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR1mW_L5Itj3bs4aQeCEab7TuapZLr8DRH84l9nCU4zjvaLsQi-zCF0GGyc

    E R Braithwaite, the Guyanese author, educator and diplomat whose years teaching in the slums of London’s East End inspired the international best-seller and popular Sidney Poitier movie To Sir, With Love, has died at age 104.

    Key Points:
    To Sir, With Love documents Braithwaite’s struggles as a non-white man in Britain

    The book’s title was inspired by a note attached to a gift Braithwaite received while teaching in London

    The author also served as Guyana’s first representative at the UN in the 1960s
    Braithwaite’s companion Ginette Ast said he became ill on Monday (local time) and died at the Adventist HealthCare Shady Grove Medical Centre in Rockville, Maryland.

    Schooled in Guyana, the US and Britain, Braithwaite wrote several fiction and nonfiction books, often focusing on racism, class and the contrast between first world and colonial cultures.

    He was regarded as an early and overlooked chronicler of Britain from a non-white person’s perspective.

    He also served in the 1960s as the newly independent Guyana’s first representative at the United Nations and later was ambassador to Venezuela.

    To Sir, With Love was Braithwaite’s first and most famous book, published in 1959.”

  18. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Ah sure Ha, Ha wishes he was thus gifted.


  19. The crust of the matter is, should a majority black population still be paying homage to their former enslavers and colonial masters who happen to be white. The true essence of real freedom is economic and political in nature, at the base of this all is of course mental freedom. To a historically conscious people the afore mentioned would never be a question or an issue because this would be a matter of self respect and honoring the name of they ancestors who suffered at the hands of the British. Every Caribbean nation , the majority of whom is of African descent with a collective experience should be on the same page in this regard. Especially in the context of this being the year of return for Africans after 400 years since the first African was brought to these shores, the so called Americas. Let’s honor the future, our children by not forgetting the past, which was the barbarity our ancestors suffered at the hands of these people, not to mention the wealth western society now enjoys. To paraphrase Steven Biko ” The greatest weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed”. True education begins with knowledge of self. Free our minds, reconnect to our African roots, let’s rid ourselves of all vestiges of the people so as not to revisit this in a other fifty years. Let the socall royal scoundrels have they party. We dont have to show up, that’s the best way to send a message that we are truly free. Amsn Ra

  20. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    If you don’t understand that the relationship of Black Barbados to the British crown started in 1627 then perhaps you have your own history. Barbados has been a constitutional monarchy since that time.

    The philosophical foundation of monarchy is that some hereditary ‘blue’ blood has been ordained by some god or other to rule over lesser mortals without this magical blood. I consider this mythology to be both stupid and evil. Do you accept this mythology?

    As to the roots of our governmental dysfunction… yes it has been an unbroken line of cruelty, racism and incompetence from 1627 to the present day. Any reading of our history will prove that: every single Royal Commission over the centuries found that to be the case.


  21. @ Jeff,
    Is this the real you, or the Bajan you? The people of Barbados have a democratic right to decide who their monarch is, or indeed if they want a monarch. At present we have decided democratically that Queen Elizabeth the Second is our monarch; if in time we decide that some Middle East monarch or Emir should be our monarch, so be it. We may even opt for prime minister Mottley to be our monarch or some Chinese.
    We had an opportunity to make a decision under the Arthur government when he set up the Forde Commission. We postponed the decision. Stop blaming the monarchy for our collective failure. We have failed because of the inadequacy of our institutions and the gross incompetence of our political and business leaders.
    What Barbados is not is a so-called Democratic Republic with a foreign monarch (a Republic cohabiting with a monarch, very Barbadian). Is that the title of your book? It is, however, indisputably a failed state.

  22. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    “We have failed because of the inadequacy of our institutions and the gross incompetence of our political and business leaders.”
    +++++++++++++
    Bingo. One of the inadequate institutions is the monarchy. The gross incompetence of our political and business leaders stretches back to 1627 in an unbroken sequence.

  23. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    A great deception of the last decade was the promise made by a Stuart led government to move the country to a republic. To quote former Prime Minister Freundel Stuart …”he said he found it awkward in the year 2015 to have to stand up and pledge allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen.“

    FYI: Owen Arthur made a similar promise- six and half dozen!!

    @ Hal
    In today’s Sunday Sun, Ezra Alleyne writes we are a parliamentary republic.
    Next week somebody may get it right and just say: Independent Democratic Constitutional Socialist Conservative Monarchy Parlaimentary Republic.
    Sign at airport would then read:
    Welcome to Barbados the world’s only :IDCSCMPR…………..

  24. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Only the racists pretend that incompetent government in Barbados dates from 1966.


  25. @PLT

    Plse explain what active role does the monarchy play in our government? Plse name the Royal Commissions over the ‘centuries’ that have provided unbroken evidence of cruelty, racism and incompetence since 1627. To be fair, name one.
    It is the duty of my generation to rebut this half-baked, made up history and constitutionalism in the interest of future generations. Can you imagine some young political science undergraduate believing this artificial mumbo-jumbo as genuine history. Our Republic with its foreign monarch should not allow it.
    I am not diverting when I say I can now understand the thinking that has led to the Mottley-led government, five days after coming to power, entering an agreement with White Oaks under English law. Who were the lawyers who negotiated that agreement? The same ones who agree nearly all of our loans are denominated in US dollars, on the basis that that is what most people do?


  26. @William,
    You got it right. We do not even know what we are. The Royal Barbados Police Force only became Royal after independence; the QEH only became royal in 1963.
    For an addict or alcoholic to recover, they must first accept they have a problem. For Barbados to recover from its obvious failure, our political leaders, and their loud chorus line, must first admit we have failed.

  27. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    Moyne Commission. Go read it if you have not already.

    The monarchy plays an active psychological role. We need, as Henry Forde’s Constitution Commission pointed out, to toss it out. It has passed its best before date.


  28. you guys are like the fella thats given a car then keeps complaining to the guy that gave it to him because he got a flat a few days later, quit belly aching treat them like you treated Farrakhan. We would never hear anything if your economy and level of life index was off the charts because you wouldnt want anybody else getting in on the action. So suck it up buttercup you have made this bed over the last 50 years now fix it or lay in it.
    And Peter racist is white noise you’ve beaten that horse to death, you have a job you speak the queens english hopefully your not feeling sorry for how your life turned out, its not like your eating fruit bats and poking around for grubs with a stick.


  29. @Lawson

    Let us agree there are some things white people will never understand about the Blackman.

    #whitemencantjump

  30. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @lawson
    We have made this bed over the last 391 years, not just the last 50.

  31. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @lawson
    I am very happy with the way my life has turned out, but significantly displeased with the way Barbados has turned out. So I quit my job in Canada to come pursue a mission here in Barbados.

    I am trying my best to beat that horse (racism) to death, but it remains very much alive in Barbados. More beating is clearly required.


  32. @PLT

    I read the Moyne Commission report in the 1970s and have had a copy ever since. It formed part of what I was studying at the time. Mine is now in my garden shed.
    Plse tell me the page number and section of the report that tells of “‘centuries’ of unbroken evidence of cruelty, racism and incompetence since 1627. I have no such recall.
    Even Moyne, a socialist, and a member of the Guinness family, did not make such a claim.

  33. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    Montenegro spoke only of the period after Apprenticeship as you well know. But the report did highlight the century of cruelty, racism and incompetence from the 1830s to the 1930s.

  34. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    Moyne^

  35. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “you have a job you speak the queens english”

    oh really…well i speak english, spanish and french …and all the words are similar in nature…so ah wonder who she tief dah from…steupppsss…


  36. @PLT

    You have lost me now. What exactly are you saying. For the record, the Forde Commission took evidence in two British cities – London and Birmingham.
    In London it did so at Lambeth town hall, in south London, and I not only attended, but gave evidence. I have said here before that the final report misrepresented the sentiments of the Lambeth audience.
    It represented us as mainly Royalists, when in fact what we said almost to a man, boy, woman and girl, was that although the road to Republicanism was the necessary one, we had more important and urgent things to attend to at that time. We still do. Republicanism is a diversion. There is no urgency.
    A warped nationalism is the voodoo keeps our politics mired in mediocrity.


  37. Lol peter are you sure the island wanted you back. I think they needed doers not artists or writers but the gods must be crazy


  38. The island not only wants Peter, it needs Peter. And many more like him. And if you were not wearing your white blinders you would have seen what he has been up to regularly spoken of on this blog. As far as I understand it he is one of the few doers around. Not an artist or a writer but a business facilitator. You would have seen that if it had suited your narrative. But the truth does not fit your purpose.

    I wonder why?

  39. Verona Michael Avatar
    Verona Michael

    Barbados welcomes the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall. Who does not like it, leave the island when they are here and return when they leave.
    Oh and make sure you give them back the money the Monarchy sent last year to bail out Barbados’ sorry and ungrateful backside.

  40. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @lawson
    The preliminary evidence is that the island does not want me back at all… but I tend to go where I’m needed whether or not I’m wanted… lol.

    I’m not an artist or a writer except in the very amateur sense. My professional competence is business and innovation… I’m very much a doer for better or worse.

  41. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Verona Michael
    The “money the Monarchy sent last year to bail out Barbados” amounted to exactly $0. That’s it, zero dollars and zero cents.

    On the other hand the money they owe us for reparations amounts to at least a few billion pounds sterling.

  42. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    Warped nationalism is indeed a poison that keeps us mired in mediocrity. We seem to agree substantially. The only difference seems to be my insistence that the warped nationalism is firmly rooted in the colonial era.

  43. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    @ Simple Simon

    I have said this before and I will repeat. With Bajans like you I sleep comfortably at nights. Thanks for pointing out that HRH Prince Charles is on a British trade and economic relations tour.Barbados in the past and even now benefits from being a member of the British Commonwealth. UK ,in anticipation of BREXIT, is seeking to maintain and strengthen those relationships.
    The attempt to introduce racism and Republicanism is a distraction. I find some remarks disrespectful.

    @ WARU

    We view life from entirely different perspectives. I build. I do not seek to destroy.


  44. @PLT

    Calculate the reparations in billons of pounds. How did you reach that figure?


  45. @Vincent

    The topic issue of this blog is about swearing allegiance to the Queen. What does it have to to with trade?


  46. Tut tut Peter dont be so hard on yourself your writings are not that amateurish all the time, I just thought you painted at that gallery you ran, I noticed the trim around the doors only had one coat I cant fault a good canadian education but is that what they want another canadian coming home and shouting them the odds, thats all I meant. I hope you didnt leave canada because we still love having royalty visit, but you better have kept your health care you may need it once you follow down the road of venezuala.


  47. @PLT,

    No. The warped nationalism is a post independence virus – the Barbadiansation of all positions, regardless. It is a poor substitute for competence and the need to think. Its child is the political corruption everyone talks about – if you have a DLP government, all top positions go to DLP supporters; if you have a BLP government, all top positions go to BLP supporters. Ever which way it is, square pegs in round holes. We will only get over this when we stop closing our eyes to the reality.
    By the way, you do not swear allegiance to the Queen, you do so to the Crown.

  48. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @lawson
    I left Canada four years ago and got back to Barbados almost two years ago. I have absolutely no regrets. Didn’t keep Canadian health insurance because I simply buy Bajan health insurance.

  49. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal
    The warped nationalism is a direct consequence of “little England,” the Englishness of all positions, regardless… we just swapped pink skins for brown ones upon independence, nothing else changed. Everything you point out about the present “if you have a DLP government, all top positions go to DLP supporters; if you have a BLP government, all top positions go to BLP supporters…” was exactly the same in the 17th century with the Cavaliers and the Roundheads. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.


  50. youll be back …..

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