Buju Banton was popular before his incarceration in the USA. Since his release it would appear he has gained greater notoriety. One group Banton does not endear himself is the LGBT community.  The reason can be found in his song “Boom bye bye“. What many Barbadians are blissfully unaware are three words in the chorus of the song Boom bye bye that the lawless in society bellow as a mantra – “dem haffi dead”.

Although Barbadians still boast of a high literacy rate – the product of a heavily invested education system – there is the recognition by some that the country has allowed too many of its citizens to fall through the cracks. The result is a lawless group that gladly act out the mantra “dem haffi dead”.

What the blogmaster finds disappointing about the increase in gun violence debate – responsible for four out of the eight murders in 2019- is a perceived expectation that better policing is the answer. The blogmaster is not trivializing the importance of an effective police force and the capacity of the courts to dispense justice. However the well being of any country must also be anchored in the ability to adequately educate and create economic opportunities for citizens. There is a group of lawless Barbadians who has slipped through the net and wear the mantra proudly that “dem haffi dead”.

More depressing is the recognition we have had successive governments unable to manage the PSV sector for the last forty years. The result is that a sub culture has developed to contribute to the current state of gun play.  It is a very optimistic person who believes the government has the will to contribute to hauling our island from the brink of anarchy. The politicians are aware who are the Dons in our communities. They will have to make a choice sooner or later but it will mean foregoing ready financing to support political activities designed to stoke popularity. How many more haffi dead?

The blogmaster listened intently to Attorney General Dale Marshall admission recently that one of the scanners required at the Port Authority to detect contraband was under repair. He went on to share that additional scanners will be ordered to better equip Customs Department given the increase container traffic. His statement should be joined with public positions taken by the Commissioner of Police Tyrone Griffith regarding contraband entering via ports of entry. Again the question whether the government has the will to contribute to the crime/gun solution is up in the air.

How many more “haffi dead”?

Too many studies have been prepared by sociologists, criminologists, educators et al to assist with reform in the relevant areas of civil society to ameliorate the crime problem. The time has come to leave out the talk. The time has come to act. We have to attack a system that continues to breed a “dem haffi dead” mindset.

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159 responses to “Gun Play “Dem Haffi Dead””


  1. @Sargeant

    There you go.


  2. that lead article was not bad at all.

    what the guy in the news print is saying isnt anything different from what Hal Austin, myself and countless others have said already.

    we know what to do. we just have to do it.

  3. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @David the blogmster “we have had successive governments unable to manage the PSV sector for the last forty years. The result is that a sub culture has developed to contribute to the current state of gun play. ”

    Dear David: As one who has taken ZR’s virtually everyday since February 1999 I wish to make it clear that I take no responsibility for the current gun play.

    Have never owned a gun. Don’t want to own one.

    Have never taken, sold, or handled any illegal substances. Will never do so.

    Rarely drink alcohol.

    Smoked a cigarette once when I was 19, haven’t smoked another in the nearly 50 years since. Will never again smoke one.

    Still as boring as I have always been in spite of my decades worth virtually daily use of regular ZR’s

    But I don’t have testicles (in spite of the Sir). That is a little thingy that I have done for myself.

  4. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    The problem is YOUNG MEN and their MALE handlers.

  5. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Bout hay we have restored to living in hope. We are still playing politics with this issue cause very little leadership is on display or being enacted. When i heard statements that in the last ten years nothing was done etc about gun crime. Who Why when where what? Is this just a rehash or well rejersed taliking points and photo ops.

    This issue cannot be solved or seriously controlled if corruption is considered par-for-the-course. Maybe “Gangs” are fighting for “turf” or settling “inter-gand issues” with methods they believe the best way to resolves these complex issues?

    But some how the current AG cannot get past the PR routine. Good luck to him meanwhile Rome(Bim) is burning. The RBPF needs additional man power. Is this shortage due to the perception that policing is not a viable profession or has the govt over the years has not provided the RBPF with adequate resources etc in order to acquire the man human resources.

    Maybe just maybe the whole idea of maintenance and in this case the lack of maintenance that plagues govt agencies has affected the RBPF as well? If “maintaining” the force’s “human resources” is seen as a maintenance requirement; then prepare our ass to make contact with grass. The pimplers awaits us just around the proverbial corner.

    Just saying aloud.


  6. David

    The gun violence business was more popular in my generation than the younger generation … Reggae music with its gun violent lyrics started around the middle to late 80s when I was a teenager. But in the 1990s the moral outcry against the violent lyrics and objectification of women started to changed the way in which the lyrics were being sung…


  7. David

    You may not remember this, but in the early 80s the government of Barbados passed a law or was contemplating passing a law which made it illegal to have reggae music in one’s possession …because it was believed then that the music was corrupting the youths in my generation … and quite sure Jeff is aware of this …

  8. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Lexicon January 28, 2019 9:02 PM

    Lexicon maybe you were lucky to be a teen in the 1980s or 1900s. If you were living in Barbados during that time you were also primarily faced with getting news content from two or three radio stations, 1 single tv channel, etc. You got you delayed news from the Advocate or Nation Newspapers and just maybe for fun you read the Investigator on Fridays. By today’s standards maybe u lived a sheltered existence lol

    Compare that with today; the numerous sources of entertainment local regional and international. Todays teens if they deicide to watch at home they got at least 100 tv channel from three different service providers, actually that maybe be seen as 300 Tv channels. Add to that the entertainment or brain washing that maybe provided by the mobile devices of all types. These teens can read three local daily newspapers and many more if they choose without leaving home.

    The world has changed. The teens of today are not like you of 1990 era. Gun talk and their behaviours must be seen in a different environment and the way teen perceive how to deal with issues is not the same as in 1990s. Just look at the rash of school fights and violence that we were exposed to via mobile phone recordings. Has these stopped? i doubt very much; maybe it is now the turn of the bigger boys.girls to strut their stuff?

    Just asking.

  9. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “This issue cannot be solved or seriously controlled if corruption is considered par-for-the-course. ”

    First…THE THUGS IN THE BAR ASSOCIATiON, THE JUDICIARY AND THE PARLIAMENT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH…right now they are the biggest criminals and the biggest problems on the island..maybe if it is repeated enough people will understand and someone will finally act.

    Ugly indeed when the PMs brother is all over Facebook complete with photo, something to do with people’s stolen properties, stolen land, stolen money…stolen this and stolen that…

    ….I suppose they all think it is a good look, theft and corruption, corruption and theft…bribery and theft, theft and bribery…AND FROM THEIR OWN PEOPLE……makes them feel important…right up there with the world class thieves..whom they all worship and emulate..


  10. Thanks David


  11. Sir Simple

    “The problem is young men and their male handlers”

    The problem is the male testosterone and its propensity for aggression … male testosterone is at its highest in our teens and as we age it declines and so as our proclivity for aggression. So it is no wonder these young men are bent on killing each other! Have you ever seen the stallion and the level of aggression it displays in protecting his females? Have you witnessed that same stallion becoming gelding and how level of aggression subsided will I did? Well a gelding is a stallion without a pair of balls … so may we should start going this road if all else fails …


  12. Sirfuzzy

    What does living a sheltered existence have to do with violence in Barbados in the 1980s?

    Mark Young, Peter Brashaw, Oliver Hall and Harding, were born and bred under the same social conditions as I did …so I could have easily taken the same course as these men of my generation…


  13. It is obviuos that with all the criticism the now present govt hurled at past govt this govt did not have reserved a plan of action to fight gang drug related criminal action
    Now at the eleventh hour caught like deer in the hidelights thay have turned to a policy of trial and error hoping all to turn out right
    The newsreel hits the nail on the head with a realistic and direct response to govt fusing miltary action and police together
    Two roles which are as different as day is from night and having a possibility of rebounding and blowing up in govt face
    The Defence force when called upon is in the event of social upheaveal to quell or quiet civilan action which in some instances have reached a point of crisis beyond police control


  14. Sirfuzzy

    You are probably not aware of the fact that Peter Bradshaw shot out a police officer eye … the same night he and his accomplices killed the plantation owner … Sirfuzzy, I am going to make an educated guess that you were raised in the country side of Barbados?


  15. Sirfuzzy

    I lived no such thing as a sheltered life in Barbados … because I ived in between the three extremes: Glendairy Prison, District A Police and Bush Hall Yard Gap …

  16. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Lexicon.

    Pls reread what i wrote. Just humour me and reread it.

    I will copy and paste it for you ” By today’s standards maybe u lived a sheltered existence lol”

    The keep word in my comment in that sentence is “maybe”?

    i was around in the 1980, the many choices that a person is given is sometimes moulded by what they see and perceive. In the 1980s and 1990’s i saw or what appeared to me as a no nonsense type of policing. I can also remember the Supt of prisons at Glendairy Prisons being accused of physiological abuse of prisoners on death row by the manner in which he dealt and conversed with them.

    I can also remember that Dodds was a threat, it was a place for young male offenders or disgusting hard mout children, and many a mother would promise to send the boy to Dodds if he didn’t straighten up and fly right.

    If my memory is correct, Mark Young was shot and killed by the police with BDF assistance. Also in the 1980s and 1990s the Belle plantation; Balls and Bannatyne areas where areas that many bodies were dumped or person killed. It was dark and lonely and many persons kept away from those areas. In my opinion the Police and the BDF when called upon appeared to be much more lethal in the manner they handled these threats to public safety.

    I can remember the day the Police shot and killed three young men in St Thomas. I can still remember the front page news. Anyway, the abundance of guns in the hands of the criminals did not appear to be as rampant as it is today. All i am saying is that we are living in a new era.


  17. GUN VIOLENCE is.. NOT due to inadequate policing, or the result of pro gun lyrical music, nor the PSV “sub-culture” as perpetrators, not even lack of sound education, or economic opportunities, or lack of scanners,
    STUDIES can’t help, neither nuff long talk.

    Another SHIFT OF FOCUS, Bajans ain’t foolish.


  18. Sirfuzzy

    Wrong…Mark Young, was killed in a house in Bush Hall by RPBF alone…Harding was wounded in the same incident …

  19. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Lexicon,

    Can you remember how the news of a prison break from HMP Glendairy filled the airwaves? And the ensuing man hunt. Today i cannot remember hearing of any prison break out from HMP Dodds or any manhunt of the type that occurred in the 1980s or 1990s.?

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Sir Simple Simon, P.C. January 28, 2019 8:45 PM
    “The problem is YOUNG MEN and their MALE handlers.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    We need to get your ‘foe’ “whitehill” back to tailgate your misandrist bumper.

    Don’t you realize that behind every gun-toting thug and drug dealer are women who are fully aware of the criminal (underground) dealings but are prepared to turn a blind eye while eagerly accepting the financial rewards to fund their expensively materialistic lifestyles?

    So what is the “problem” with those young women and their ‘Madam’ handlers?
    Greed or downright prostitution?

    Why not take the profit out of the local drug dealing business and see how fast the women would distant themselves from those cowardly thugs and petty gangsters telling them sweetly: “No money, No love”!


  21. Sirfuzzy

    A detective friend of mine who was like a father figure to me, took me along on a ride with him to Dodds to dropped of this kid in the late 70s …I could still remember this big yard with all these kids sitting around in St. phillip …

  22. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    @ millertheanunnaki January 28, 2019 10:36 PM

    How do u realistically take the money out of drugs? And after taking the money of of the equation what should we expect?

    What should be the empirical and observable positive changes in our society after the removal?

    U have identify a solution to a problem; so hwo will we know the/your solution is working?

    Just asking?


  23. Sirfuzzy

    I remember all the prison breaks back in the day … I lived around the corner from the prison … A lot people don’t even remember, but I do that Barbados most violent criminal was a Vincentian called Doctor Rat … He more violent than Mark Young, Hall and Harding put together … He shot several police back in the day, and he himself was shot to death on a boat heading back to St. Vincent…

  24. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    @ Lexicon January 28, 2019 10:50 PM

    As we had notorious criminal we also had police that the public believed that the same criminal feared. Maybe today there is an imbalance or litte or no PR about specific crime fighters .


  25. Sirfuzzy

    Did you remember the serial killer Moppie who used to kills lovers down by the stadium in the early 80s … He was one of the nicest person you could every meet … He was hung …he killed the CID detective Starsky’s brother and shot his brother girlfriend in the head, but she survived and gave him up because she knew him …

  26. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    @millertheanunnaki January 28, 2019 10:36 PM “Greed or downright prostitution?”

    A Simple Response: Likely a bit of both.

    @millertheanunnaki January 28, 2019 10:36 PM “Why not take the profit out of the local drug dealing business”

    A Simple Response:I agree with you. But how? People are not going to give up their profits without a fight.

    Last night I suggested gelding all of the men, but in all seriousness, how? And men will not give up their testicles without a fight.

  27. Sir Simple Simon, P.C. Avatar
    Sir Simple Simon, P.C.

    But still the truth is that virtually all of the violence in Barbados and the world is done by MEN, and especially by young MEN.

    And “no” I don’t hate men.

    Love you guys.

  28. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    @ Sir Simple Simon, P.C. January 28, 2019 11:09 PM

    “Love you guys” just as long as you are a eunuch? oouch!!

  29. SirFuzzy (Former Sheep) Avatar
    SirFuzzy (Former Sheep)

    Lexicon January 28, 2019 11:05 PM

    Cant say i remember about Moppie. But i will say this, what is the probability that we have the same percentage of dysfunctional or criminally minded persons today as we did in 1980s and 1990s?

    We need to understand that and put things in place to identify these at risk children as soon as possible.

    I will also admit we will not catch them all but we need to catch as many as we can and give them as much help as possible.

    Just saying


  30. Sir Fuzzy

    I believe the criminal’s name was “Mopsie.” He used to perform his criminal activities near the Stadium.

  31. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Sir Simple Simon, P.C. January 28, 2019 11:07 PM
    A Simple Response:I agree with you. But how? People are not going to give up their profits without a fight.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are damn right there!

    Why do you think the big boys have formed their own ‘No to legalizing drugs’ lobby -as openly and arrogantly displayed by their ingratiating presence at the opening of the current Parliament-to ensure their underground business is never legitimized?

    It is the illegality of the processed plants that gives massive added value to distribution.
    The profits involved are hundreds of times that of the ‘legal’ alcohol.

    Too besides, what would the local boys in blue do other than chase down the juvenile bicyclists and those 30,000 drivers on the road without insurance or road worthy certificates?

    What would those customs officials- with strong ‘friendly’ ties with the Syrian/Lebanese and East Indian importing-business communities- do to supplement their measly monthly salaries?

    The white collar criminals with their business and political connections operate way above the operational pay-grade of the local force and other enforcement agencies.

    That would have to be handled by ‘foreign forces’ as witnessed in the case of the disgraced politically ‘corrupted’ Don.

    Why is the person who sat in the chair during the bribing arrangement not under local investigation?
    No minister of government can engage successfully in kickbacks and corruption without collusion and facilitation by their politically appointed man of business sitting in the ‘Board’ chair and very senior managers.


  32. Dr. Rat wasn’t as violent as some want to make him out to be. I cannot remember him shooting several policemen, he shot at them.
    Back in those days there were also Sandflies and Buddy Brathwaite. These fellows were petty criminals who were on the run and did what they had to do trying to get away.

    Compare the criminals of yesteryear to the ones of more recent fame such as the Melrose 3, Woggy & Barry Jack, Wes, Peter Rabbit, Lord Evil, Shocker etc. There is a guy on remand for murdering 3 women….among other violent crimes.

    These guys are have no fear going into districts to shoot their foes or shooting up neighbourhoods.


  33. The following is the opening of a statement issued by the Lynette Eastmond UPP political party. We have arrived at a dangerous place:

    In a media release issued today, the UPP called on Mottley to “use her vast influence to hopefully dissuade the criminal intentions” of those who would commit “heinous crimes”.


  34. @Robert

    Dem haffi dead.


  35. Why are the mothers and those in the know not giving up the offenders?

    Why is the society nurturing criminal minds?

    Why are our social structures starved of funding- do we expect a different result because of it?

    Dons have always been given elevated status in our neighborhoods, what is different today?


  36. Well done Lynette Eastmond – Head of UPP political party.

    Keep raising these serious issues like your demand that govt provide greater details on the consultative function to be provided by former Commissioner Dottin.

    Most persons I have been hearing ARE TOTALLY AGAINST THIS BACK DOOR ENTRY OF A MAN DESCRIBED IN BDOS TODAY (by Emmanuel Joseph) AS -“Former Commissioner who was sent on leave AMID ALLEGATIONS OF ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING BEING CARRIED OUT BY THE FORCE”

    The article goes on to say that Dottin had denied the wiretapping allegations – BUT TWO MEMBERS OF THE SPECIAL BRANCH HAD GIVEN SWORN AFFIDAVITS TO THE POLICE SERVICE COMMISSION -THAT THEY HAD CARRIED OUT THE WIRETAPPING UNDER INSTRUCTIONS.

    Who was Dottin Boss and Line Minister – Mia Amor Mottley ?

    Whose phones were tapped ?

    Mottley’s Boss Prime Minister at the time Owen Arthur, Opposition Leader David Thompson, the Police Officer who was the driver of the Opposition Leader,Freundel Stuart DLP Senator (at the time) – among others

    What was Mottley’s response when questioned by the Media after this matter was raised in Parliament – She responded “IT IS JUST A RED HERRING” – Notice not a response of I know nothing about that – nuffin so.

    Who was the lead lawyer for Darwin Dottin when he challenged his being sent on leave – in court ? – Mia’s father – Elliot Mottley

    Who represented the other senior police officers ( his Boys) in Court who were not promoted as requested by Dottin – BLP Christ Church South MP – Ralph Thorne.

    Did you hear Mottley say in the recently held ‘Press Huddle’ – that SHE is going to make sure some promotions go through soon ?

    I wonder if Dottin Boys will be in that group ?

    So Commissioner Ty. P. Griffith will be surrounded by sharks. Wuhloss.

    More to come.


  37. @T.Inniss

    Can you hazard a guess why criminal charges were never brought by the last government?


  38. Mottley says :

    ” Not bout here”

    “Not bout here”

    All hot and sweaty full of theatrics – in the Press Huddle she had recently. lollllllll

    But all she had to do is pick up the phone and talk to the 5 invitees to the official opening of parliament.

    Nah – Not bout here.


  39. @millertheanunnaki,would you believe I went to bed earlier leaving my TV on as I was watching a piece about some man who supposedly met ENKI. Those who from the heavens came has been a subject of mine for some years. So now, unable to sleep I’m doing one of the few things I do at such times, catching up with the comments on BU. Of course Lexicon is living up to his nix name, Lexicu#T and Simple Simon is proving that she’s bigger than hers. In recent times one has noticed the many women who having been fooping and breeding with men are now ”coming out” in their old age.Simple Simon having added “SIr” to her moniker is but a clear hint of her now “Wicking” in her old age. She professes her love for men, but one really encounters a wicker who has any love for a man. ” The problem is young men and their male handlers.” For decades now since women don’t have to worry about the stigma of ”out of wedlock” and having bastards, Single mothers have been the scourge of society, they have gone ape shit; foisting upon society these boys whose fathers’ are the progeny of a Crapauds cross with a mongooses. Until Simple Simon and other women accept their role and complicity in this matter shots will lick.


  40. Talk and more talk! The most “rational” persons in this mess “bout hay” are the criminals! The court system is a round about, the forensic centre has been closed for 8 years, a scanner at the Port is under repair and customs officers emboldened by Caswell Franklin object to cameras. Has the policeman from Bank Hall who killed a man been tried yet?


  41. @PIng Pong

    Is he still on bail? Is he being paid? Has he returned to work? Remember, he killed an innocent man.


  42. Robert Goren

    I lived behind District A Police station and I remember the day clearly when Jasper Watson and several police officers found out where Dr. Rat was hiding.

    And these men leaving in the blue police with their LSR rifles! And about several hours later the van returned to the station riddled with bullets holes, and that is when I heard that Dr. Rat shot Jesper Watson, and if I am not mistaken I think he also shot Tracksuit Top in the ankle or the hand…

    Nevertheless, I remember Sandfly quite well he was no threat to police…but the thing that made Sandfly notorious was fact that it was said that police shot him and planted a gun next to his body… You are right Buddy was a petty criminal …but you have forgotten to mentioned in your list of criminal Big Michael, Pack Rat, Bend Toe, and Barabbas … remember back in the day to be considered a bad man you had to be from Bush Hall…


  43. Robert Goren

    When we talking about Dr. Rat we are talking about the late 60s to the early 70s …. a long long time ago …


  44. Robert Goren

    And lastly, I could say without any equivocation that the two criminals police feared the most were Mark Young and Pack Rat … If Mark Young was cornered he would kill, and Pack Rat openly assaulted police…


  45. “the Police Officer who was the driver of the Opposition Leader,Freundel Stuart DLP Senator (at the time) – ”

    @T. Inniss

    Since when in Barbados a police officer is assigned to drive an opposition leader?


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  47. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “That would have to be handled by ‘foreign forces’ as witnessed in the case of the disgraced politically ‘corrupted’ Don.”

    UK needs to get off it’s ass and control THEIR CRIMINALS in the Barbados parliament and in the judiciary…ALL OWNED BY THE CROWN…while they are in the Caribbean running into Venezuela drooling and panting…after oil.

    It’s a total disgrace all these lawyers on facebook being exposed as aligned to stealing land and money from vulnerable old people for years on the island, complete with posted documents……..all connected to Mia in one way or another…

  48. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “No minister of government can engage successfully in kickbacks and corruption without collusion and facilitation by their politically appointed man of business sitting in the ‘Board’ chair and very senior managers.”

    Hence the reason Mia placed Leslie Haynes on the board of NIS Pension Fund…knowing full well he sat on the board with the other CLICO CROOKS….and robbed thousands of policyholders with that Duprey/Leroy Leper scam..


  49. @ Lexicon

    You said you Dr. Rat was around during the late 60s to the early 70s and you still remembered clearly the morning Jasper Watson and his found out where Rat was hiding and went for him. You even gave us descriptions of their firearms, how is this possible when you said you were a teenager in the late 1980s?

    I believe, like anyone in their early 50s, you are relying on what you were told.

    A next thing, what is your fascination about trying to depict Bush Hall as this big bad area, when there were areas such as the Pine, Bay Land, Black Rock, Chapman Lane, New Orleans that were twice as notorious back in the day?


  50. Robert Goren

    Barbados has always been corrupted … the powerful and privilege walked out of the police station without any charges because they knew the right people to call …

    White tourists have been raped left, right and center in Barbados in the 70s, and not a words on the TV or in the media because the aim was to protected our tourist industry …

    A deceased police officer son robbed tourists on the beaches of Barbados for years, and everytime he was arrested and brought to the station his mother who knew one guy in the upper ranks of the force would called him and this kid would walked free … this cycle continued for years until this senior officer retired.

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