A member of the BU community posed the question to the blogmaster via private message – “Where does the average Bajan INVEST today- now?”.

There is a quick answer. There is a complex answer. The blogmaster is not qualified to address the complex answer, however, members of the BU family are free to fill the gap.

The question was influenced against the backdrop of government’s retrenchment exercise and should include private sector employees where similar retrenchment programs have been occurring in the post 2008 period.

Before the question posed can be answered it is important to understand how savings and investment differ. In simple terms individual savings is the difference between income earned – a salary – minus CONSUMPTION expenditure e.g. car, food, entertainment etc. To clarify, if the individual purchases an Aquaponics system (to produce food) we should define this as an INVESTMENT expenditure. The investment expenditure reduces household cost and creates a revenue opportunity.

The most recent Financial Stability Report page 20 produced by the Central Bank confirmed what we know, Barbadian individuals and other entities continue to save in the financial system. Some dismiss the high level of savings to Barbadians being risk averse others will counter by suggesting that we should consider other determinants. The blogmaster will leave this part of the debate to the BU intelligentsia except to say. Traditional investment opportunities are limited in Barbados and BLACK Barbadians especially have confused saving with the bank or credit union as an investment.

Source: 2017 Financial Stability Report

This blog is not meant to denigrate Barbadians. However, it is accurate to say that the financial IQ of Barbadians combined with a passive entrepreneurial disposition has defined our investment outlook. Some members of the BU family will point to how the education system has been designed in a post colonial period that has led to our state of mind.

To answer the question posed by the member (he is free to expose himself). Even in the so called ‘good times’ the investment market in Barbados can be accurately described as closed. Bear in mind the blogmaster does not consider individual savings in financial institutions as investment. Where are locals – those being displaced by government – able to invest money to generate meaningful income that is not illiguid? There is no active equity market. There is Fortress Fund and a couple other mutual funds that show moderate ROIs. You get the picture!

Earlier in the blog BLACK was capitalized for a reason. It was not meant to be an incendiary verbal, simply to differentiate how Blacks and minority groups approach investing in the same local market.   For years minority groups have established Pooled Investment Funds. In a simple definition, an opportunity is identified and a group of individuals come together based on a shared position to invest in the idea and agree to share the risk. The idea maybe to buy property to rent or flip, acquire an equity stake in an under capitalized business, transport an emerging business concept from offshore to local market … you get the picture. The more sophisticated investment is that a few pension funds managers act as loan sharks. Is this activity regulated? A blog for another day. However it must be said that all investments bear risk!

The upside to what is happening to displaced workers in Barbados it that it may serve to disrupt a passive state of mind. This is where the national conversation needs to be anchored instead of the old way thinking. It is time to change the thinking.

 

 

 

 

169 responses to “Where Does the Average Bajan Invest Today?”


  1. First pay off all high interest loans that are in excess of what one would consider a good rate of return. This rate must be however higher than the rate of inflation. So if we say a decent rate of return for you is 6% in this economy with inflation at 4%, then start by paying off any loans and credit card balances with a rate higher than 6%. Once this is done look at what is left and go from there. Most people may find once this is done little is left, not a problem as they will have a high liquidity factor going forward for any opportunity that may arise when the economy settles down and bottoms out. Real estate will be your best bet once you buy when the economy bottoms out, especially considering the low mortgage rates that will be around for a while due to excessive liquidity in the banking sector.


  2. . “I hope one day to discover my roots but in the meantime I appreciate and embrace my Africanness.”

    Donna@…. africanancestry.com

    and for a mixture of African, Euro and other ancestry..

    ancestry.com

  3. sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore) Avatar
    sirfuzzy (i was a sheep some years ago; not a sheep anymore)

    @ David,

    The turn over of real-estate has often being seen as a good investment. But with land prices and the price of developing land many will not be able to purchase it as an investment. Mores many will purchase land and buld a house as a HOME nothing more than than.

    IMO there are about zero good investment for the average bajan with a little excess change in the pocket. The reason has to be examined; why so many have soo little to invest when they will need the ROI of the investment to help them in the retirement years.

    @ Andrew Simpson November 3, 2018 7:12 AM
    You are very correct but often this requires the ownership or decent access to land or rooftop space. So so many no having access to either the land or roof top space we are creating a large bunch of “socially dependants” not by their own choice but becuase of the lack of choice for good investments.

    We need a hard honest look at the retired and soon to be retired. We are creating a long lasting social problem for many a bajan. The NIS may be their only source of income thus the NIS needs to be seriously “guard walled” “ring fenced” “bunkered” and “siloed” from government interference when it come to making investment decisions. The NIS is investment team is not immune from the poor investment environment that is Barbados.

    If it appears that the crooks offer the best investment opportunities; therefore how can the NIS or any reputable entity willingly participate? Knowing the background tot he investment etc. Furthermore for the crooks to succeed they must spread their stench to other parts of the society and landscape, often eliminating in the process the more legitimate investment opportunities than exist.

    But we live in HOPE.


  4. @Vincent,

    The best retail opportunities are facilitated by government. Government has the fiscal tools to make retail investments attractive. This is one of the failures of the DLP/BLP governments. In a low interest environment government should be encouraging ordinary savers to invest in fiscally advantageous products.
    For example, investing taxed income, tax-free growth and tax-free withdrawals. The advantage for the economy is that the investment managers would have to find avenues through which to invest, therefore SMEs would have another sources of funding.
    Good examples are 401(Ks) in the US and Individual Savings Accounts and Child Trust funds in the UK. Or, The Israeli Development fund and the Greek development fund, both of which provide opportunities for people in the Diaspora to invest in their homeland.
    Instead of this, the prime minister went to New York asking New York Barbadians to involve the so-called Social Partnership in any investment ideas.. She must be crazy. Would you trust your hard-earned money with those so-called business people?


  5. Hants November 3, 2018 3:17 PM

    Ask him a question about medicine and he will give you an extremely accurate answer.
    NO HANTS
    I DONE WITH THAT
    BUT I WILL SPEAK ON THE WORD
    I AM NOT AN EXTREMIST THERE EITHER

    I FOLLOW THE RULES OF BIBLE INTERPRETATION
    WHAT DOES THE WORD SAY
    WHAT DOES THE WORD MEAN
    HOW SHOULD THE WORD BE APPLIED

    THE NT CLEARLY STATES TWO VERSES THAT I CITED THAT TEACHES THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BIBLE AND THAT HE MOVED MEN TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK

    I AM MORE LIKELY TO GIVE A MORE ACCURATE ANSWER ABOUT BIBLE THAN MEDICINE
    MEDICINE CHANGES BUT THE BIBLE DOES NOT


  6. Whoops! That has already been answered.


  7. WARU,

    Went there some time ago but did not follow up. I had more pressing matters at the time. I’ll get back to it in due course.


  8. @sirFuzzy

    In 2018 your comment rings true. The high net worth people will store real estate until, it is the average Joe who will have to suck salt. We are creating another class of mendicants at a time the social security net is stressed. The result is that the seams of our society will start to share.


  9. Hants

    I do not believe GP to be an extremist at all … I believe him to be a man who have studied the word of God and is able of articulating it well … Now there is fundamental difference between between quote Scripture well, and being able to put what one has studied into practice…

    Now Hants, if GP is an extremist … then every Jew is an extremist … because most of them are verse on the Torah … now does it make someone an extremist if he or she is capable of effectively articulating scripture on a social blog? Of course not … because we do not know what his life is consist of beyond the repetition of theory…

  10. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    By their own mouth they will condemn themselves

    Here are your own words

    “…Are we not exploring what is possible for the ordinary government worker who has been sent packing by the government? Your interventions seems to be macro?…”

    I said, and I will repeat, that this blog is specifically for the benefit of a floundering government which does not have any idea what it can suggest as alternatives for people that it is firing.

    They understand that these people are going to be votes against them come 2023 so what they are doing is coming here on BU to pick people’s brains.

    Here are the facts

    You, the government have decided that you are firing people.

    You have floated a lie to the IMF that you need $30 million to retrench and retrain people

    And the IMF believed that BS

    Now, after careful consideration of the options available, it dawns on you ignorant swine that there is no real plan to provide real alternatives

    And, in light if all of the killings and crime and drive by shootings, wunna now fart frightened and bum rushing people for ideas.

    You just begged Mr. Vincent Codrington twice for ideas and he, while not outright ignoring you, did not answer the question with an exact industry.

    Wunna seems to have confused unemployed former government worker with this $5K bribe as entrepreneurs.

    And while the coolaid drinkers ain’t saying anything about the pipe dream, I calling you out.

    You do not have any ideas and UNDER THE GUISE OF HOW TO JNVEST, wunna fishing.

    The reason the hunt is going to fail is due to 2 things

    the issue of oversaturation where once the idea is floated EVERY BADWORD BAJAN GOING WANT TO BE A “SNOWCONE, PIGTAIL VENDOR”

    And

    Every single idea leads to the importation of something to sell to a next bajan.

    None of you see Bush Tea s ideas and frankly speaking, since my amnesia affliction, I have not got a clue about what he is proposing.

    Hewers of wood and drawers of water irrespective of what Donna says.


  11. Real estate is only a good investment if there is an upside because of demand safety weather etc etc You are still under advisories beaches closed by bacteria and seaweed crime on the upswing and if by is any indicator us whiteys are not wanted so stay away from real estate no matter how cheap it can always get cheaper. Invest in things that the locals will always buy not something dependant on tourists coming. Condoms and funny hats would be a good bet

  12. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item for you where I use your own remarks to show you why I know that this is a harvesting blog.

    But I want you to watch carefully and see that EVERY ONE OF THE ANSWERS POSTED TO DATE ARE ALL MACRO CONCEPTSand that thd poor man cannot participate in any Renewable Energy or 401K or real estate deal.

    Ergo your frustration with these macro submissions

    Wunna feel people stupid….


  13. Hants

    “It is to no avail if you do not put what you have been taught or read into practice”

    Nonetheless, no way on this blog have I seen or read of GP offering Jesus Christ to anyone as a way out from a life of Sin … now does that makes him less of a Christion … of course not … but it surely calls into question his level of faith … because the Bible tells us that faith devoid of works is dead … remember the Devil can quote Scripture too…

  14. William Skinner Avatar

    I was advised by an economist years to forget trying to save money on the bank every month. He told me to buy three piglets and when they get between 90 and 100 pounds to sell them and then place the profits in the bank . I did this for several years. I was also fortunate to get them slaughtered and sold by a butcher. It was a very profitable investment.
    There are investments and then there are investments!


  15. Lekicon

    Piece going soon cuss me for being off topic and David will soon rein us in but I believe that there is not much left to discuss here hence the “macro submissions.”

    So…..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism
    Check the link to fundamentalism .


  16. Sorry. LeXicon


  17. @Wi;lliam,

    Do not take financial advice from economists. Just have a read of Long-Term Capital Management.


  18. William Skinner,

    I understand that there is a St. George Farmers’ Co-operative that does very well.

  19. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Lawson

    Sometimes you are able to speak serious truths about matters which, if people were to ignore your other predispositions, inform on serious matters.

    Here are excerpts of note in what you said.

    “…Real estate is only a good investment if …” and then you added the fact that the country is “…under advisories beaches… crime on the upswing…”

    I smile at that becauze all of these clowns have no idea about the way Barbados is being presented to the world, but then again they dont have connections to the Bsjan communities in the diaspora.

    Finally Lawson you come to one of the main issues that continue to grow in the country – racial discrimination, you said “…and if BU is any indicator, us whiteys are not wanted…”

    Start any topic here on BU about a white/black/Indian topic and in a heartbeat it is 300 blogs.

    Tell me then how in this volatile environment can we even begin to discuss real options on how poor unemployed hant to mouth bajans going to “invest”?

    Dese people going hoard whatever they have, that is their mentality…unless of course you can say something different…


  20. Donna

    I see nothing in GP’s writings that would qualify him as being outside the mainstream view of Christianity… Jim Jones, David koresh and the Branch Davidian etc, can be regarded as extremists, but I haven’t seen anything in GP’s writings thus far that qualifies him as an extremist as far as I am concerned…


  21. @Piece,

    People go off topic because they run out of ideas. Nothing new here; even the government runs out of ideas. The key is good chairmanship.

  22. William Skinner Avatar

    @ Hal
    Worked out very well . At that time my monthly salary was about $260. Just had to buy a couple of bags of feed and some stale bread from Purity Bakeries along with the usual left overs we fed pigs back then.
    A little bit of hard work and a few dollars were made.


  23. @William,

    Good on you.

  24. William Skinner Avatar

    @ Donna
    I heard so as well. We should have dozens of well managed Farmers’ CO OPS but as Hal says we listen to economists. They only advice: borrow money. They call it deficit financing ; I call it deathficit financing.
    I will stick with pigs all day. I would even keep a few yard fowls.


  25. William, if you are looking for yard fowls Mariposa is available.

  26. William Skinner Avatar

    @ 45 govt

    Don’t forget we are all in this together. One big happy Animal Farm.


  27. Lexicon,

    I see you have not read the entire link I sent you. There is more than one meaning of probably every word in the dictionary.


  28. Donna

    Yes…I am well aware of the fact that there is more than one meaning for every word in the lexicon… but the force of a word is derived from the context in which it is commonly employed … take the word phenomena for example … a lot of people have a tendency to employ this word in both its sungular and plural context … when phenomenon is the singular usage of the word…


  29. Minister of Small Business, Entrepreneurship and Commerce, Dwight Sutherland, will next week join colleague parliamentarians around the globe, at the inaugural China International Import Exposition (CIIE), taking place from November 5 to 10, in Shanghai.


  30. Is it true that withdrawals from your bank account over a certain sum e.g. $8000.00 is subject to tax?


  31. Sarge are they taxing already taxed money that’s insane or is that rsp money


  32. @lawson

    Trying to follow up on information which was passed on, no it isn’t RSP.


  33. @TheOGazerts November 3, 2018 8:51 AM One of the unanswered questions is how do we vet these beginning entrepreneurs?”

    The same way one would have vetted Kyffin Simpson, or bill Gates, or Rihanna, or Usain Bolt.

    Tek a chance on a youngster with potential.

    Not gilt edged like government securities [lolll!!!] but…


  34. Real estate is still a slow but steady investment. The thing is people seem to believe that there is no point getting into the real estate unless they have sandy lane type money. But for the AVERAGE Bajan with less than $200,000 BDS to invest, buy a modest house in a working or lower middle class area. If you have sklls and can do some fixing up yourself, so much the better. Charge less than $1,000 per month and you will be able to keep it tenanted for years, for decades even since there are always young people leaving the parental home and looking for a modest place to rent for a few years until they can afford to buy. You won’t get rich quick, and it may involve a fair bit of work on your part, but it will provide a nice steady income, and you still own the fixed asset.

    Message to landlords and landladies: Keep your place real nice, ALWAYS fix problems right away, and charge a little bit less than the market rate.

    Happy tenants who are living in a nice [even if modest] place they are proud to call HOME tend to pay their rent every month.


  35. @David the blogmaster “For years minority groups have established Pooled Investment Funds. In a simple definition, an opportunity is identified and a group of individuals come together based on a shared position to invest in the idea and agree to share the risk. The idea maybe to buy property to rent or flip, acquire an equity stake in an under capitalized business, transport an emerging business concept from offshore to local market.

    David surely you know the terms su-su, meting turn, box hand, whatever it is called is a traditional pool of investment funds. Nowadays people use terms like micro finance etc.

    Long ago my parents used their meeting turns to buy a piece of land, then using meeting money and practical skills built and maintained a house. The house is still family owned, still in real good shape, worth a modest $250,000 and the rental income is helping to put their last grandchild through a very good university in a STEM field. And a family has a nice if modest place to live at an affordable rent.

    We need to think not only short and sweet, but slow and long term.

    Ask ourselves not only how much interest we will get next month, but how will this investment benefit our grandchildren, and their grandchildren.

    This is advice for average Bajans. It is not intended for wealthy people.


  36. SS a couple of things ..clicked on mortgage rates barbados not one place posted a rate that should tell you something, are you saying the average bajan has 250000 in bank to play with ,you are better off than the average canadian. Now lets say you borrowed the money for that 220000 house put 20 down so you owe 200000, at 5% interest over 25 years the payment would be near 1200 forget taxes ,insurance, gas hydro maintenance etc then hope the economy doesn’t tank. If you are not already in the game and have no experience with renters find something safer.Get your money off shore and if you are smart you along with it.


  37. The problem with black Barbadians is that we have this tendency to distrust our own black brother and sister in the business affairs, and until we solve this problem we will be the buyers instead of ther owners.

    In any event … a good friend of mine( a former mounted police) and his brother opened one of the biggest chicken operation in St. Thomas back in 1985, so I decided to help my friend and his brother out with this new business venture, and initially things were going well …because these guys used to sell chicken to all of the major hostels in Barbados during the middle to the late 80s.

    Now I migrated to North America in 1987, and on my returned two years later in 1989, I was told that Uncle Wilbert Chicken went under, and I was rather dismayed … because I said to myself with a majority black population in Barbados in support of this black business this shouldn’t have happened.


  38. But some of the young people in Barbados have gotten very creative with their business ideas … several years ago I met this young man on WhatsApp who sold and delivered chicken by way of this social media … and I had was to compliment young him for such a novel idea at the time … because he told me that he was making a profit and that the idea was all his.


  39. David has asked, where do Bajans invest today, the real question David should have asked WHY DO BAJANS HAVE LIMITED INVESTMEMT OPPORTUNITIES.

    Boils down to ONE ITEM….. BARBADOS PEGGED CURRENCY, limits cash flows and offshore investment. Pegging ones currency to another jurisdictions currency is frought with issues, the big one is losing control of your own countries capability to adjust FINANCES via the Central Bank.

    We constantly see Barbados Central Bank issuing periodic financial reports, we never see what Central Bank is doing to make necessary corrective adjustments. Government is in direct control of Central Bank when in fact it should be operating at ARMS LENGTH far away from knee jerk political influence.


  40. http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/210555/bermuda-ag-husband-sued-half-million-dollar-debt
    Bermuda AG husband sued over half-million-dollar debt

    talking about meeting turns, su-su’s, box hands. it looks as though this one ran into a spot of bother.

    My mother who did not go too far in school, used to run one for decades and never had any falling out with the neighbours, church friends etc. who participated. Everbody got their “hand” in order to send their children back to school, celebrate Christmas etc.

    But meeting turns are based on trust, and every member MUST BE TRUSTWORTHY.

    And I think that we have forgotten about the lodges, or friendly societies, no, not the fraternal organizations also called, secret orders, but the community lodges/friendly societies which acted as financial organizations before the days of credit unions, and back in the days when the foreign banks, especially Barclays which had made significant money from the slave trade, did not want to see poor black people in their banking halls. Back then poor black people did not go where they were not wanted, but instead founded and ran their own financial institutions. My family had membership in two such lodges/friendly societies, the Buccaneer Friendly Society, and Mayflower Friendly Society.


  41. @lawson November 4, 2018 4:32 AM. “If you are not already in the game and have no experience with renters.”

    Have been in the landlady game since 1982. Have decades of experience with tenants. Be nicer to them than they expect. But never be so nice that your tenant think of you as a friend. Do NOT go to their weddings, christenings etc. And NEVER EVER start a sexual relationship with a tenant. If they don’t pay the rent. Out they go. You are NOT their mummy.

    STRICTLY, STRICTLY BUSINESS.

    Including once for a period of years when my little Susie was my tenant.

    STRICTLY, STRICTLY BUSINESS.

    People thought that I was horrible mummy. But the rent came in every month. And it taught little Susie how to treat to a mortgage when that time came.


  42. And we are back where we started. Distrust is the biggest problem.


  43. @Vincent
    “Barbados has long passed the stage of a subsistence economy. Meaningful investment size should be in millions ,not thousands. So we are again making bare mock sport at Barbadians.”

    I have problems with that phrase. I see it as cold water cast upon the man/woman with big dreams but having a few measly dollars. Now they must think of millions and not thousands.

    But pooling of money would allow them to reach those millions.


  44. @Theo,

    Think compound interest.


  45. @ Simple Simon
    It was not only the international financial institutions. The Barbados Mutual now Sagicor, followed a similar course.
    You are absolutely correct about friendly societies. Also rural shop keepers used to credit customers until the crop started.
    There is a myth out there that Blacks don’t trust each , yet we have companies such as the Barbados Lumber Company , the Nation newspaper etc.
    I think we tend to give negatives more exposure. If Blacks did not trust each other, we would have been completely doomed a long time ago.


  46. @William

    How are s the model you reference relevant in a todays Barbados? Has the demographics change? Has the business model and ownership of businesses change?


  47. SS apparently you are harder than a coffin nail, not all people are cut out to be landlords renting property is not for everyone if it was easy everyone would do it . But your numbers didnt jive in the way if you have that kind of money hanging around you probably are in your twilight years and dont need the head ache.

  48. William Skinner Avatar

    @ David
    “How are s the model you reference relevant in a todays Barbados? Has the demographics change? Has the business model and ownership of businesses change?”

    All I pointed out remains a historical truth. I, just reread my very brief comment, and I don’t know why you asked me the above question .
    Sometimes history is uncomfortable to those who believe that the only people, who should not reference their past is Black people. I do not concur to that fear.
    Some years or so ago, Sir Hillary Beckles and others questioned many inequalities at the same company. I guess you have conveniently forgotten the “Mutual Affair”.
    Why did you and others not talk nonsense about the society and changing demographics then?
    I guess high wind know where old house live!
    Don’t shoot me. I ain’t got no gun and holster. All I try to do is play the piano.


  49. @ Lawson,

    Sometimes you are a breath of fresh air

    You said and I quote “…are you saying the average bajan has $250,000 in bank to play with ,you are better off than the average canadian…”

    This article IS NOT FOR THE AFFLUENT BAJAN CITIZEN, the blogger who posted this might be either be a perons who is being retrenched OR knows some people who are being retrenched

    The blogmaster tells me that its not one of the BLP operatives seeking direction on this matter so I will err on the side of belief on this issue.

    What can the average person, and by average Bajan, I mean people who barely got $5,000 in the bank for a rainy day, what can they do?

    Most activities that you will see as suggestions here, even your condoms and funny masks, will ultimately mean imports and that is both (a) short term and (b) requiring imports of some type.

    I think that the author really wants to find an investment that is going to guarantee his investment UNLIKE GOVERNMENT BONDS and Debentures, which given the current state of affairs, dont mean a pang.

    People, while they understand the concept of the su-su ultimately realise that it is really their own money “in rotation” and NOT INVESTMENT of the type the author seems to be hinting at

    Mr. William Skinner speaks of Pigs, de ole man had , goats, sheep a cow, geese, ducks, shickens and rabbits at various stages while growing up, even a garden too. It takes work and time and when you have the pigs, you have to be in the country cause pig pen urine does smell and town people going complain.

    The idea of “cooperatives” among similarly minded persons where, you personally dont have to build pens but, you “invest” in a pool has its benefits but at the same time, if you have a feller who likes nuff women, as the CEO of your chicken farm in St Thomas, you may end up like the feller in Lexicon’s story.

    Mr. Codrington speaks of how “water will find its own level” which refers to entrepreneurs, and not people with money, will ultimately be innovative enough to find a niche, and this is true.

    But what then of the rest?

    Personally, I think that this is the time for the Rise of the Elders, whether they are white or black or indians, i thing that what we need is a community led offering by certain of our outstanding citizens Fellows like Bertram Hall, Dave Hinds, Kiffyn Simpson, and others who, BECAUSE OF THEIR PRINCIPLES, not their colour will be men and women, who will put their money where their mouth is,

    Men like Mr Branker and others seasoned soldiers who, while they are rich men, will not tell a feller to put dem money in a ting, if they dont believe in it.

    The days of government doing everything for us ARE DONE WITH, we have seen what successive governments have done with our taxes, now is the time for a different type of revolution.

    Where would Branker Hinds and Hall put $1,000,000 or $5,000 from 2,000 people to generate 6% returns? among and for the black community?

    Where would Kyffin Simpson, COW Williams and Bizzy and the millionaires among the white community put $$ placed in a covenant (not like Mia’s covenant of hope) that would generate money for their charges?

    We need to look at the private sector and let them think of innovative ways to change up what they are accustomed doing in support of the communities that they live in.

    Such a fund would operate in this way.

    say we identify ONLY the best of these men and we create 3 such funds WBI (white Black Indian, do not focus on the colour thing, what we want is the competencies and the trust)

    Each of these groups fully collateralize the $$ in their charge

    But here is the teaser, government agrees that for every verifiable person in the pool for the $$ that is collateralized, they will give so % tax writeoff per year for each year that the fund operates

    I know that it may seem puerile but what I a aiming at is trying to create a new type of Augmented National Su-Su which brings a different dynamic to this type of arrangement.

    Now, what we are doing is securing the expertise of Millionaires while creating a fully underwritten Venture Capital Fund.

    Remember that Halls’ is NOT GOING TO (a) loose his reputation (b) invest in a losing initiative nor (c) LOSE HIS MONEY in a frivolous enterprise and in addition he is getting a tax writeoff.

    The average man/woman is investing their money with experts and being assured of a ROI on their investment and the security of their principal by men who are principled.

    We have to use this time to change the way we look at each other so that instead of all the racial enmity that expresses itself here in all these articles, we can have some places where there is an active environment where people see those who are not into all this colour thing, reaching out and helping, even though they are benefiting from it financially

    During the course of a year, the ROIs of each group will be published and people have the ability to add to their investments thereafter.

    REMEMBER THAT YOUR INVESTMENT’S PRINCIPAL IS SECURED for money that you took out of the discounted government bonds and are now hiding under your beds.

    We need ForeRunners to forge new paths where it seems like if we are lost.

    It may sound like Fortress Fund to some of you but Hall, nor Kyffin nor Hinds are real businessmen who have been there and have overcome all the frustrations that exist and have a track record of success.

    We cant keep doing the Government ting and let it fail all the time can we?


  50. @ the Honourable Blogmaster Your assistance pleas with an item here thank you

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