The Barbados government unveiled its economic program a few minutes ago. Time to buckle up and ask what you can do for your country it all the blogmaster will say.
Government’s Team Shares Information about Next Phase of Economic Program
The Barbados government unveiled its economic program a few minutes ago. Time to buckle up and ask what you can do for your country it all the blogmaster will say.
171 responses to “Government’s Team Shares Information about Next Phase of Economic Program”
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@David
“we have to trust our knowledge and instinct as far as participating in the exercise is concerned.”
SHIT STATEMENT, what is needed is REVOLUTIONARY TALK, time to put these style of governments to RIP and move on with realistic positive solutions. Time to ditch this FLUFF TALK and get concrete action underway.
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Wily is right David
If YOU cannot see the futility of this shiite approach being undertaken – after over a decade of exposure to the reality of our mess on BU…. what can we expect from the average brass bowl ….whose only goal is their own short term comfort.
Where there is no VISION, brass bowls perish.
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@Bush Tea and Wily
Give the blog an outline of script the revolutionary way forward should be crafted.
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The way…?
There needs to be a new and revolutionary focus on COMPETENCY and MERIT.
This needs to supersede politics and connections…DRAMATICALLY.At least 200 people NEED to be dismissed immediately …for KNOWN incompetence and for KNOWN corruption.
Incompetent person currently sitting in sensitive positions should understand the price to be paid for non-performance.
The smart ones will RESIGN next week…This will immediately send a message that the RULES have changed.
ALL future decisions must them be made based on MERIT and performance….. ONLY!!
Clear and measurable targets must be set – and decisions made on the performance achieved against these targets – INDEPENDENT of politics or connections.….and that is just the START.
Wunna need to recognise that you cannot enjoy 20 years of lazy-ass, mendicant benefits – based on borrowing OTHER people’s money – and then look for a ‘get out of jail free’ card as the escape route….
It is PAYBACK time….. either by HARD, productive WORK…..
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We do not need to tinker with the engine, we need an overhaul. No, we need a new engine. If we do not as Bushie put it, have a culture change, even if we manage to steady the ship for a while it will not last long. This is the time for all of us to examine ourselves, deal with our history, acknowledge its negative hold on us, determine what we need to do to become our real selves. We need to stop seeing life through somebody else’s lens.
What kind of people do we want to be and what kind of Barbados do we want to inhabit? That is the starting point.
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The BERT plan is profoundly disappointing. Everything that is contained within it is necessary, but it barely scratches the surface of our problems and does nothing to build a sustainably productive Barbados.
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I am always quite a bit surprised that we have what we call “workers” unions. etc
But often refer to these “human resources” AS “EMPLOYEES”
We need to stick to the script. The “human resources” are “WORKERS”. As Barbados is a god fearing and highly spiritual nation or collection of persons. In the bIble we have a reference to workers not “human resource” or “employees”. God in his wisdom knew that the “workers union” would be an organisation for workers etc, and he wanted workers for his kingdom, so i think god is cool with “workers union”. When we become “human resources ” and “employees” the script fell a part and “the workers union” become corrupted.
1 Corinthians 3:9 New International Version (NIV)
9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.
I think the “workers union” and the “businesses” both private and public needs to understand we need “workers” and not “human resources or employees”.
My remedy is rather simple; but in a “brass bowl ” society mixed with an “entitlememt” mindset with a legal system that is designed to “procrastinate” any worthy process; i will probably see 2030 before any major attempt is attempted.
A) FIRE or SEVER all the “employees in the civil service”. This is the entire civil service from PS to maid. Rehire or offer employment contracts to those who are qualified; smart and competent. Let them understand that they will be hired as “WORKERS” and not “EMPLOYEES”.
B) THE FEARLESS AND RUTHLESS ENFORCEMENT OF THE REGULATION AND RULES WITHIN THE SOCIETY.
c) THE LEVELLING THE PLAYING FIELD. WHERE ALL COMPETE IN A MERIT BASED ENVIRONMENT FOR GOVT CONTRACTS AND SERVICES.
Just a start in the right direction.
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At least 200 people NEED to be dismissed immediately …for KNOWN incompetence and for KNOWN corruption.
Incompetent person currently sitting in sensitive positions should understand the price to be paid for non-performance.
The smart ones will RESIGN next week…This will immediately send a message that the RULES have changed.
ALL future decisions must them be made based on MERIT and performance….. ONLY!!
Clear and measurable targets must be set – and decisions made on the performance achieved against these targets – INDEPENDENT of politics or connections.….and that is just the START.
Wake up, Bush Tea. We have touched sown and it is way past lunchtime!
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touched down
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THE QUALITY OF DISCUSSION HERE EVINCES THAT THE BLIND IS LEADING THE BLIND!
THE QUALITY OF DISCUSSION AND THE LACK OF EFFECTIVE ANSWERS HERE EVINCES THAT BOTH THE LEADERS AND THE LED ARE HOPELESS, AND CLUELESS
BUT BRIMBLE BARK AND BRAY ON………….ITS QUITE ENTERTAINING
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@peterlawrencethompson Everything the government is currently working on is not in this plan. For example this new administration is already moving to reform the town and country planning act which has not been reformed in years. Two consultations were already held like this one https://www.facebook.com/gisbarbados/videos/996615140503298/UzpfSTE1OTgyMTI3NDE4NDU5MzoxMDU5NjIzMzE0MjA0Mzgw/
which improves the ease of doing business.
They are also working on clearing the back log of hundreds of court cases which has brought the judicial system to a halt. will have to wait and see the results of these things but I agree that a massive overhaul is overdue in this country after a lost decade. Its a competitive world and the rest of the world owes us nothing. At the end of this lost decade we are ranked low in the ease of doing business globally, while African countries like Kenya and Ethiopia are growing.My two suggestions is to build relationships with the global tech sector, push coding and tech in schools and evolution of EDUtech bring CXC to the table. Recently CXC has introduce a CAPE certificate in Animation and Game design they need to do more, Top schools in Barbados need to introduce this programme with incentives. https://www.cxc.org/subject/animation-game-design/ ,
In agreement with Hal, remove any obstacles to the expansion of the rum industry
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RE remove any obstacles to the expansion of the rum industry
ALSO remove any obstacles to the expansion of the rum SHOP industry
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The politicians etc. many of the “evil doers” exist only because of “average Bajans”.
No one can hide and claim to take the “High Road”!!!!
The problem is the “average Bajan”!!
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@ Bush Tea August 31, 2018 8:51 AM
“Wunna need to recognise that you cannot enjoy 20 years of lazy-ass, mendicant benefits – based on borrowing OTHER people’s money – and then look for a ‘get out of jail free’ card as the escape route….It is PAYBACK time….. either by HARD, productive WORK…..
…or by bending over …and hoping that the creditors choose to use vaseline…..”Bushie, you very ‘acidly’ sharp today! Like you had a bowl of nails as your breakfast cereal.
Haven’t you been ‘preaching’ like Jeremiah those basic truths of survival and prosperity for many years now?
How can people continue to showoff and live ‘big’ life by borrowing other people’s money and don’t expect the day of reckoning to catch up on them sooner rather than later?
These politicians and technocrats know exactly what must be done to show the unproductive and ‘conspicuous-consumption-oriented Bajans’ the economic ball that shot Nelson.
If only the proposals for necessary change which were hatched 5 years ago had been implemented the taxpayers would not be saddled now with a bunch of overrated and overly paid political jokers and ‘can’tsultants’.
Didn’t the previous MoF Sinckler preach the same sermon every year for the past 7 years?
All of this bullshit talk about economic restructuring and fiscal makeover as displayed yesterday has been going on for far too long and needs to stop.A country which allows its good agricultural lands to run to ruin and its manufacturing sector to be decimated by cheap poor quality imports can only end up in the poorhouse totally dependent on the only game in town called tourism or, according to Bushie, Prostitution at the national scale.
Economic Karma is about to descend on Bajans like a ton of bricks made from economic and financial STDs.
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The key is productivity. Productivity means to add value, it does not necessarily mean hard work but it requires a level of commitment and focus the likes we currently do not see in Barbados.
For example the EPD’s mission statement is:
“To Protect and improve Barbados’ quality of life and its natural and built environment, through the promotion of sustainable practices, education, partnerships and the enforcement of legislation”The least productive of the EPD duties is enforcement. Enforcement activities add little value as in many cases the harm has already been done (South coast). Yet from my experience it is the major focus of the department and the only time we hear from them. The EPD does not even have a website.
What would a productive EPD look like. Well it would partner with organisations like the Future Centre Trust and focus on proactive measures. Environmental officers will focus on training and education of the public, particularly where data has shown the main culprits of breaches are.
Actual enforcement will be outsourced.
Nothing revolutionary about this, just a change in approach but the results and value it will add will be significant. EPD staff will be more engaged, have a greater sense of ownership and will no longer behave like environmental police.
This approach can be utilised for the entire civil service. Positions that add little value like economists will obviously have to go
Unfortunately we still have to figure out what to do with the legal profession. The very nature of their job and how they are paid or pay themselves opposes the value added concept of productivity.
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@Backooful Jack August 31, 2018 10:11 AM
You begin to identify a few of the things that are necessary to build a 21st century economy vibrant enough to support Barbados. The non-profit organisation that I work with has built relationships with the global tech sector and will be opening a fast track code school here in Barbados within a few months.Bajans need to understand that it is pointless to try to return to small scale manufacturing to sustain our economy… growth in the contemporary global economy is driven by intangible goods and services: mobile money, software, music, movies, etc. This global economy is fraught with risk, but it is the only available choice if we wish the lifestyle to which our middle classes aspire. A recently published analysis of this new economy is “Capitalism Without Capital: The Rise of the Intangible Economy” by Haskel and Westlake. You can get a quick intro on Haskel’s webpage: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/business-school/knowledge/finance/rise-intangible-economy-capitalism-without-capital-fostering-inequality/
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@ John August 31, 2018 10:21 AM
The politicians etc. many of the “evil doers” exist only because of “average Bajans”.
No one can hide and claim to take the “High Road”!!!!
The problem is the “average Bajan”!!
Its a vicious loop/circle the “average bajan” feeds the “evil doers” and the “evil doers convinces the average bajan that he needs them”
The issues is that any permanent dis-connect or break-up will be painful.
Neither party is willing to bear the inevitable pain brought by a break-up. So we live apart in the same house for the sake of appearances and the children. Cause “getting a divoice is something we don’t want but we need”
Besides what will the neighbours say about us when we attend church etc? lol
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“Neither party is willing to bear the inevitable pain brought by a break-up….”
The electorate already excised one useless political party…only one more political party left for the electorate to excise completely out of their lives.
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@ WARU August 31, 2018 10:40 AM
After the 2nd exercise to remove the 2nd entity; we will need a “make over” and a “good(positive) brain washing”; followed by fitting good(new) pair of glasses. AHA! Meet the new Miss HMS BArbados? Good looking and seeing good(straight) lol
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Of course we need to rationalise SOE’s, and cut government expenditure, and eliminate the fiscal deficit, and create e-government services.
But all of this is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic unless Barbados earns enough foreign currency to pay our bills. Bush Tea has tried to point this out over and over. Barbados has only two main FX earning industries: tourism and international business services. Neither of these has significant room to grow: tourism because it burns enormous amounts of fossil fuel to get tourist to our shores, and international business because jurisdictions like Canada get tired of us enabling rich Canadians to cheat on their taxes. We require a 3rd leg for our economic chair to be minimally stable (a 4th leg would be good too, but first things first).
There is only one viable option in the contemporary economy: intangible goods and services such as: mobile money, software, music, movies, etc. This is because it is impossible for us to compete when we add the costs of shipping physical goods to global markets. Our only viable alternative is to concentrate on producing goods and services that we can distribute to global markets with the click of a button: intangible goods and services.
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David
He’s representing the IMF. Does it mean the IMF is supportive of BERT?
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@ David August 31, 2018 7:38 AM
“Observing” is barking up the right tree and with his helicopter view is seeing the forest of confusion and obfuscation.
All that is being offered as intellectual fertilizer is another load of ‘more bullshit talk’ sullying and blocking the path to economic survival.
Has any more light been shone on the Hyatt and Four Seasons projects?
What about the sale of the Hilton hotel?
Why not sell the BNTCL to operate under a joint venture arrangement between the two retail market players? The importation, storage and distribution of finished petroleum products might be seen as a strategic set of economic activities but they surely do not represent social or public goods which should come under some sort of direct ownership or control by the State.
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@ peterlawrencethompson August 31, 2018 10:59 AM
We are chanting “many hands make light work”. Then that begs the questions “what do many legs do?”
Do many legs make faster or smoother or more stable development? A two wheel vehicle is inherently more unstable than a four wheel vehicle. More legs or wheels is desired.
In the business world i have often heard than we can only add so much to the Gross Profit and eventually the bottom line by cutting expenses; thus we need to grow the top line the sales/revenue if we want to increase the bottom line.
In Barbados as in any business there is great certainty in “trimming the expenses” but the top line will require really consistent actions over many years to grow the (forex). So if we are going to be under pressure to grow the Forex. Why dont we increase the local value add via substitution. There are goods that we can substitute for consumption that have a higher local content. This will have the effect of reducing the forex needed to buy the equivalent good. We will get to keep a larger portion of any forex earned.
The old ppl preached a dollar(forex) saved is a dollar(forex) earned. maybe this should be a part of the RE RE ; as Re-visit the old ways of doing some things maybe be beneficial?
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@peterlawrencethompson The only agricultural model we could potentially follow is the Netherlands. Their agriculture sector is heavily based on the latest scientific and technological techniques. This helps them to scale it while using less land and labour. You can watch this youtube video to see it.
This would require UWI to evolve and it would require the legalization of drones (which Kerrie Symmonds proposes you can see this article http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/178387/drone-ban-lifted) Drones will be extreamly helpfull to modernize agriculture in a country with small land space. Other technological and scientific methods can be also employed
The UWI was given land in St Thomas a few years ago by some old white dude a few years ago. You can see more information in this article.
http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/101207/usd68m-agro-parkThis is the only way I can see us making any meaningful gains in agriculture. However I agree with you that becoming competitive in intangibles is the way to go. Good luck on your coding initiative we need it.
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@ millertheanunnaki August 31, 2018 11:22 AM
Why not sell the BNTCL to operate under a joint venture arrangement between the two retail market players? The importation, storage and distribution of finished petroleum products might be seen as a strategic set of economic activities but they surely do not represent social or public goods which should come under some sort of direct ownership or control by the State.
It comes to a point when u gotta act. A divorce usually doest end ones life. Parties can remarry or marry another person(s).
The Tdad Govt. just announced the closure of the PetroTrin refinery, and the move to importing the refined fuels into Trinidad. The refinery was designed to process 140000 barrels of crude daily. Tdad local crude production as 40000 barrels daily. They were importing 100000 barrel a day. It was not making economic sense.
How strange for a oil producing country to abandon refining at its own state own refinery? Its done when the economics no longer make sense.
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lol..sifuzzy..if the new political parties believe they are going to get an easy ride now that 75% of the electorate’s eyes are wide open and staring back at them…they are going to get such a damn surprise, what happened to the DLP will look like nothing…
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@ Hal
Any government that believes it can introduce a new modern national economy, without a serious attempt to reform its educational system is doomed to failure.
We need a fifty year plan not eighteen months. !
We have no confidence in ourselves and now we have apologists for the BLP talking about a “lost decade” when in fact, the BLPDLP duopoly has wasted five decades .
A generation is said to be twenty five years . So two generations gone and we now going begging the International Loan Sharks known as the IMF. -
@ WARU August 31, 2018 11:37 AM
I don’t know its possible to get less than ZERO SEATS in any election. They will suffer the same fate; nothing greater is numerically possible
what says u?>
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It is all about FX reserves and currency valuation. If you are spending more FX than you are bringing in, you can solve the problem in one of 3 ways. The first two are by bringing in more or spending less.. The easier quicker fix is to spend less. That means reducing government expenditures including salaries that ultimately get spent on items needing FX. The 3rd way is to let the currency float. At the moment there would be a large risk in doing so. Argentina just increased interest rates to 60% to protect the value of its currency. Barbados could not withstand this type of problem. So reducing spending has to be a major undertaking for Barbados. Has to be done.
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Lots of good ideas and suggestions.
You have to find a way to finance the ideas and suggestions.
Re ” many hands make light work “.
So does good computers and software.
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I say if the Mia government pisses off the electorate sufficiently and gets a 30-0 next election…then things will really get interesting..
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Hants August 31, 2018 11:49 AM
U are mostly correct .
But i may say with 100% certainty that increasing our productivity should not cost the govt a cent more than it spends now.
On a parallel track how much does u as a person to offer ur customers improved customer service. If u think about it probably cost us nothing.
It has to do with attitude. Change your attitude change ur outcomes.
Don’t be fooled by thinking every thing that will right the ship cost a tonne of cash; that to is something we need to unlearn if we want to improve the HMS Barbados.
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Hants August 31, 2018 11:49 AM
U are mostly correct .
But i may say with 100% certainty that increasing our productivity should not cost the govt a cent more than it spends now.
On a parallel track how much does it cost u as a person to offer ur customers improved customer service. If u think about it probably cost us nothing.
It has to do with attitude. Change your attitude change ur outcomes.
Don’t be fooled by thinking every thing that will right the ship cost a tonne of cash; that to is something we need to unlearn if we want to improve the HMS Barbados.
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round and round the bu brimblers go
will they find an answer
nobody knowsbare sport in de rumshop
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@enuf
BERT you are suggesting was created in a vacuum?
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David
The opposite duhhhh.
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@William,
Have you noticed the smoke and mirrors ab out old BERT? The obvious fiscal change that would increase the government’s revenue take is an inheritance tax. Barbadians, black and white, short and tall, fat and slim, all hate the idea of taxing wealth before it is passed on to a generation that did not work for it. I wonder why?
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@ Hants,
I don’t know if you follow or pay attention to the recently concluded Paul Manafort case where he was convicted of 8 counts.
The trial was held in the Virginia circuit court. That circuit is called the “rocket docket” due the speed at which it operates. That alone tells me that they must be other court circuits known for their lack of speed.
Manafort was scheduled to face the court on Sept 17 in the DC Circuit cpourt. This is a separate court trial.
Manafort’s defence lawyers ask the presiding judge to delay the trial becuase of the amounttof work they need to process etc.
When asked by the judge what length of delay they were asking they didn’t supply an answer. They just insisted they it was a lot of work they need to process to prepare . etc. The judge gave then to sept 24. One week delay.That is an example in my opinion of how a judge controllng the case and actions permitted in the court room.
If we had judges on our bench that were interested in speedy trials and outcomes maybe we would not have the backlogs we have now.
All this judicial actions does not require a penny extra being spent; but a change in attitude from the judicial if the wheel of justice is to turn more quickly.
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@PLT
I disagree with the notion that there is no room for tourism to grow. Again we have settled on the point of optimum quality (aka mediocrity) and believe growth of the tourism industry will require expenditure of resources worth more than the expected gains. Benchmarking will reveal that there is plenty of evidence of room to grow both revenue and visitors. The industry needs to adopt a policy of continual improvement and embrace data science. We currently have no standards set, no KPIs, and we only use data to report visitor arrivals and average spend.
As far as revenue generation goes we need to focus on what works and how to improve it. Tourism’s linkages to other industries must be examined, developed, and improved.
Take Cricket. Cricket in my opinion should be treated as an industry. Its link to tourism is obvious yet we have done little to exploit this. Name any other sport that can bring planes full of spectators/tourists. Who remembers the Barmy Army invasion of 2009. Barbados is the only recognised cricketing brand in the Caribbean, why are we reliant on the WICB to promote the game. We should be partnering with international hotel brands (Marriott, Hilton, Radisson) and Airlines to promote a cricket festival.
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RE We should be partnering with international hotel brands (Marriott, Hilton, Radisson) and Airlines to promote a cricket festival.
REALLY? WITH THE LOUSY CRICKET WE PLAY IN BIM AND DE WINDIES TODAY
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@Bush Tea August 31, 2018 7:02 AM “Simple Simon is wrong (again) about it not being the brass bowl people’s fault.”
Wukkin’ the land, just dusted off the foreign passport(s), will divert the foreign pensions to a U.S. bank account. You think that Donville is the onliest person who as alleged by the USA government has foreign bank accounts? Ya tink I simple? Ya tink I int lifeboat ready. Lol. Oh! shirt!!
But I know that if my mother, and her mother, and her mother’s mother survived on this rock in the Atlantic, I will survive too.
When my great granny was widowed at 38, with 14 children in the hurricane of 1898, she and all of her children survived.
Resilience is built into my DNA.
Survival is for the fittest, not the richest, or the most powerful.
I am one of the fittest.
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Simple
Wuh I got a foreign account too.
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@GP we are the reigning T20 champs
We have a rich cricketing history and it is a proven money earner.
We just need to break the cycle of mediocrity
Combermere brought in a full time coach and it produced 4 West indies team players (Kraigg, Carlos, Roston, Shane). The potential is still there but we need to start at the grassroots level. Every school should have a cricket coach and as I said cricket should be treated like an industry not a sport. -
David August 31, 2018 7:38 AM ” Barbados has to walk a path we have never travelled before because we are in a place never occupied.”
I heard on VOB this morning that this is that economically this is “the worst time ever”, which is not true. Persaud was true to say the worst time in “our lifetime” but those of us who are older than Avi, older than Mia, older that Rev Joe, older than Senator Caswell, older than any of the governmen’s current advisers have smelled hell in this country before.
Less than 100 years ago Bajans were burying our aunts and uncles who died of hunger, but we pretend to forget those starving times. Ask your parents or grandparents what happened to the four or five other children which your mother, grandmother or great grandmother gave birth to, and who did not grow to adulthood. How soon we have forgotten them.
This is NOT the worst time in Barbados’ history.
In 1938 Barbados was where Haiti is now, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Those poorest people in the Western Hemispere were my parents, my older siblings and all 4 of my grandparents.
This generation ain’t see neffen yet.
And unfortunately so may of us once we have graduated from university no longer have conversation with our parents or grandparents.
If we did how could we talk such foolishness about “worse time ever” when our still alive grand parents can tell us differently. When my older siblings who almost died of hunger are still alive and can still bear witness.
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Where is Artax to give his two cents worth of economic spin on what transpired yesterday in Mia economic recovery plan
Did i hear Persaud say that an estimate of 1000 workers would get a pink slip
Who is Persaud kidding he cant be serious with that number when the negotiating for finances between govt and IMF begin -
Sometimes the richest and most powerful have eaten too much, and drank too much, and smoked too much, and engaged in too many legal and illegal psychoactive substances, and have exercised too little, and are not fit for the battle for survival.
Didn’t the daughter of a senior Pepsico executive, and wife of a TetraPak heir not die at 48, while my granny, born in 1879, did not go until 1969? And was in good mental and physical health and doing for herself until a few weeks before her death.
Resilience built into the DNA.
An “no” she never drank Pepsi, nor Coco Cola either.
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@ Enuff August 31, 2018 12:52 PM
Simple
Wuh I got a foreign account too.
So if i dont have a foreign account what does that mean fir me? My ass is grass? lol
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Simple Simon,
You are blowing hot and cold. A few weeks ago I said our social and political historians are letting us down by not recording our history. I think we were talking about the death of the young man shot by Swaine. You disputed it. Now you are talking about our recent history of poverty. Our historians have failed us.
Ironically, it was E.D. Motley who set up his Queen’ Park kitchen to feet hundreds of hungry Bajans, to clothe their children and gave them pocket money. Now Mottley is measured by the antics of his grand daughter. It was Grant ley Adams who improved our educational system, making it the best in the Caribbean. Now idiots talk about Barrow and his ‘free’ education.
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@ Simple Simon
Are you aware of how things have gone recently in some other countries which ALSO endured hard times 100 years ago…?
When will you wake up?All it takes is two bad boys to come and abscond with all your garden produce to show you which God you are serving…
…or worse, for two others (Pain and Teets?) to tek the whole plantation yuh got….You think that the Venezuelans are idiots?
You thing that the Argentineans are brass bowls?
You think all those people who risk their lives running to refugee camps and foreign countries in floating death traps are docile?Woman…
You have NO IDEA what ‘hard times’ are….
Let us hope that it stays that way.@ Enuff
Wuh I got a foreign account too.
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That is just another way of saying that you are a lawyer.
Question is – can you go and make a deposit or withdrawal -Or must you stick to online transactions…?
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Exactly!
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