Submitted by Heather Cole

I have a sentimental attachment to Crane Bay so perhaps that makes me biased with regards to any chaos that revolves around it. I spent many days in my youth on that beach, being rolled up in the waves, and on those long summer evenings taking a walk up the long expanse of the beach all the way to the dark hole, mostly in search of sea grapes. When it was too hot my friends and I sat on those benches on the jetty in the shade enjoying the breeze of the sea and the magnificent view and the boys jumping off the jetty. I have memories from long ago of a man who we called Masters who was either the manager or the owner of the Hotel. He used to get the watchman to run us if we came onto the property but we did not loiter there. We used the hotel to facilitate our access to the beach since my grandmother’s house was a stone’s throw from where the walls of the hotel now stand.

In those days, there were no walls so we walked the quarter mile up to the hotel walked through, passing the pool and making our way down the steps to the beach instead of going the mile on the public road. Once we cleared the hotel and made it to the beach we were safe. I do not remember any occasion that we were asked to leave the beach. Truth be told what I remember now is what I can only term as an act of defiance against Masters and that was dipping and washing our sandy feet in the beautiful pool as we made our way back through the hotel. While Masters denied our access to the beach, our presence on the beach was not denied. It was like a safe haven.

However, thinking rationally we have a sore thumb. We have a problem today that is not going away. No matter how much we pacify it by putting that thumb is our mouth and sucking on it, when we take it out, it is still sore. The very idea of having a PUBLIC beach that has a restriction is ridiculous. How can there be a public space that is owned by an individual from the high tide mark to his property. My interpretation is that the Act therefore only gives John Public access to the sea and not full use of the beach. If the beach was truly public property no one private party could claim any part of it as their property.

Anything that is for public use or consumption but comes with restrictions is segregated. So taking it a step further, one can state that some beaches are actually not truly public but segregated if Barbadians are denied the acts of vending, relaxing and walking on them. What we have here is a clear case of segregation of the beaches in Barbados hidden in plain sight as the law has legalized this segregation.

In a public car park everyone can park their car. In public schools no one group of persons can claim part of the school as for their race. Public transportation is Barbados is not segregated with the front of the bus for one race and the back for another. In 1955 Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a segregated bus that was used for public transportation sparking the Civil Rights Movement. The inhumane system of apartheid which institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination ended in 1991 in South Africa. So why do we have a law on the statute books that institutionalizes where we can go on the beach and sets a portion of the beach aside for private ownership?

Coastal erosion has all but destroyed the beach at the Crane. It is a mere shadow of its former self. The beach that I remember was perhaps three times the size in width of what it now. It means that according to this high tide arrangement the hotel, vendors and nationals compete for an increasingly diminishing resource.

It would be interesting to see the title deed of the Crane Hotel and any other hotel or beach property to see what has been conveyed.

In my opinion, the best solution is to repeal and create a new piece of legislation or amend the legislation removing the reference to the high tide mark because that law is discriminatory against Barbadians and the law should not be in conflict with itself either in principal or practice and; public must mean available to all in entirety.

Clearly there is over reach in the legislation in allowing a high tide mark to restrict access on public property. It is indeed shameful that the Attorney General who is a resident of St Philip and more importantly the defender of the public interest has not uttered a single word on this matter. Since this government is doing nothing to resolve this problem, the next government must aim for steady, pragmatic leadership which resolves this chaos

240 responses to “Another Heather Cole Column – Public Beaches or Segregated Beaches?”


  1. I’m younger, 61 😉
    I have lots of friends in their 30s who adore going to the beaches. The only ones that don’t are the ones with dreadlocks… seems it’s hard to get the sand out.


  2. @ Hal Austin,

    My memories start from 55 when I went to primary school. Life for me was enjoyable.

    Learned to swim when I was 5 and to hull waves and fish from about 7.


  3. Hants March 29, 2018 at 6:10 PM #

    So you remember Janet?


  4. Yes I remember Janet.


  5. This issue with this hotel owner flexing his muscles has been going on since the early 2000’s around the time the massive expansion there occured. The people of the Crane and surrounding districts used to use piece of land for play and recreation etc. We pleaded and signed a petition to acquire a piece of one of the vast pastures and presented it to the then representative; nothing came of it. Then came the development, the tricking of older folks to sell there land that the hotel wanted; the building of the 13 foot wall right up next to people’s houses, cutting of the wind and view, the cutting off of two access points to the beach etc. We once again pleaded with the then representative and even contacted the media to highlight what was going on……. Nothing was done, nothing was highlighted. I know the Internet was not as widely accessible back then as it is now but still….. The media and powers that be stayed silent then. And now this Dolye guy feels very empowered to do what he feels like. Where was this author when these things were going on?


  6. Let us not forget Skeet’s Bay which Red Plastic Bag and Mac Fingall created a fuss and then the matter faded.


  7. Brace yourselves, for the next stink will be SANDALS BEACHES as they plan to EXTEND the beach (opposite Almond Beach) many many meters seaward to boulders placed in the sea which will create a total elimination of any high water mark….. as per current definitions does that not become private land/beach?

    Marine surveyors if you please.


  8. John March 29, 2018 at 5:29 PM #
    Melnyck is at Welches too!!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    .. and Welches is where a large beach was formed opposite his building!!

    Would be interesting to know where the sand came from!!

    Is this a case of Doyle watching the Crane Beach shrink and beaches of the South coast getting formed?

    Is the whole issue about sand?

    … and sandals!!

  9. Talking Loud Saying Nothing Avatar
    Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    The demand for beach front properties continues to rise. The latest development is called Beachland on the west coast.

    “…………..Larry Warren, the prolific Bajan architect behind many of the island’s big houses, including Four Winds, describes the 2008 “slump” as “great for Barbados”. He explains: “It will be seen in history as great. We were starting to spoil our natural paradise during the building boom.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/property-and-architecture/barbados-50-years-independence-still-luxury-property-haven-ex/

    There will be a rally this Saturday at The Crane. The organiser called for people to attend and to bring a “picnic” with them to participate in a “quiet” protest.


  10. I am looking at the 1951 aerial photo of the Crane beach and comparing it with the satellite image, one overlain on the other.

    It is quite amazing to see how much the sea has advanced into the beach.

    I am not going to put a number up till I have checked and rechecked but it is significant.

    It looks as though the beach in the google earth image above is about half as wide as it was in 1951!!

    I will do a sanity check in the morning with the images.

    Think I might take a look at it over the weekend as well as it has been a long time since I went up there.

    I looked at the beach at Foul Bay as well but it did not seem to have shrunk as much.


  11. Kevin

    After writing:

    “We once again pleaded with the then representative and even contacted the media to highlight what was going on……. Nothing was done, nothing was highlighted. I know the Internet was not as widely accessible back then as it is now but still….. The media and powers that be stayed silent then.”

    Do you actually believe your question re: “Where was this author when these things were going on?:……..is fair and reasonable?

    If you admitted “nothing was highlighted” and “The media and powers that be stayed silent then,” perhaps you may want to explain how the author knew about the situation back then.

    You are essentially implying that since people remained silent when these things occurred under a BLP administration……..people should remain silent now they arr occurring under this inept DLP administration.

    Typical of a political yard-fowl.

    But you should also tell us if vendors’ property was confiscated.


  12. http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/141592/doyle-solution-develop-crane-beach

    He explained that back in 2004 the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) began an improvement project of Crane Beach. He said the IDB spent millions of dollars importing sand and boulders to undertake the project, but it came to a halt when neighbouring resident Eugene Melnyk filed an injunction in the High Court.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What interests me in this article is the statement that the IDB spent millions of dollars importing sand and boulders in 2004.

    Where did they go???

    I guess they went into this project …..

    http://www.coastal.gov.bb/content/coastal-infrastructure-programme-2002-2009

    The GOB/BLP undertook a coastal infrastructural programme between 2002 and 2009 with funding from the IDB.

    Did it cause the beach at the Crane to shrink?

    It sounds like the improvement project at the Crane was stopped by Melnyk.

    Would this have prevented the shrinkage of the beach?

    My gut tells me that all this confusion is over sand, the GOB/BLP … and the IDB!!

    In my book the IDB is in hot water already over the sewage project!!

    I see more manholes are erupting!!

    Funny thing, Blue/Full Moon.

    Check the tides, they have been pretty high.

    https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Bridgetown-Barbados/tides/latest

    “Last Spring High Tide at Bridgetown, Barbados was on Wed 21 Mar (height:0.77m 2.5ft). Next high Spring Tide at Bridgetown, Barbados will be on Fri 30 Mar (height:0.81m 2.7ft). “


  13. Doyle evicted two beach chair vendors from Crane Beach last week, claiming that the section on which they had been operating for many years was actually the beachfront property of the Crane.

    And while his actions have met with much public outcry, he is stressing that he is in no way preventing members of the public from utilising the beach, but was strongly against vendors being given licences to compete with them on their own property.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I suspect the vendors are being used.

    If the above statement is true, Doyle’s actions sound entirely justified.


  14. Hasn’t the issue gone passed whether Doyle is right or wrong to why the relevant government authority doesn’t act to enforce or clarify the law?

  15. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    The lazy legislators in parliament will wait until the sea settles the matter by taking back the beaches, which neither greedy Melnyk nor Doyle can stop …….before pretending they are creating clear, understandle legislation to set boundaries for hoteliers and those who believe they put beaches in Barbados.


  16. John March 30, 2018 at 12:06 AM #

    At the very least this is a breach of the peace, or even theft of the deck chairs. The Irish-Canadian Doyle obviously thinks that he and his henchmen, armed as they no doubt are, can defend themselves.
    This is one reason why people think Bajans talk more than they act. He needs to be taught to respect locals, by fair means or foul.


  17. This is one reason why people think Bajans talk more than they act. He needs to be taught to respect locals, by fair means or foul.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I suspect the only teacher of respect will be Mother Nature!!


  18. I see the manager of NCC had an article in the Nation paper today. PL read carefully he’s requesting a SURVEY to determine the PRESENT beach location and stated the beaches as defined in the legislation is indeed moving and needs to be determined. His statement however that this will solve the problem is a joke as tomorrow he’ll have to do it again to re-establish new beach location. Poorly written legislation at its best.


  19. Foul…ominous….Mr Doyle the beach vendors are revolting…yes they are aren’t they LOL. Hal there must be more to this story than meets the eye, I would have just got some of my buddys and we would break the lock and take my property back, the crane would call the cops and the police would make the decision.. was I trespassing… had they stolen my property …the police would sort it out pretty quickly


  20. I understand the concept of principle but how could a dispute with two beach vendors escalate … or be escalated … to this stage?


  21. John you think this is escalating, try returning a box of garbage to someone


  22. @Kevin March 29, 2018 at 7:49 PM

    STOP WINEING, your elected government knows best and approved the development in the best interest of the Barbaidians populace. If you have a beef and obviously YOU do, took it to appropriate GOB authorities and they dealt with it, you not happy, live with it.

  23. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    The political cabal took bribe money from both these greedy dudes over the years, either in the form of campaign finance or whatever else they want to call it, even the offshore companies are known to be that corrupt to interfere in the function of government to get their own way …….

    …. those two now believe they are entitled to more than their fair share because of who took their money over the years, throw in badly worded decades old legislation subject to several misinterpretations and you have this tangled.mess.

    The lawyers on the island are yet to learn how to draw up and draft legal documents that cannot be misinterpreted.

    … maybe Jeff can start holding classes for his former and current students on how how to draft and draw up ironclad legal documents that would later become unchallenged legislation.


  24. @Wily Coyote March 30, 2018 at 6:53 AM #

    Sadly, NCC General Manager Neblett is the problem, not the solution. He does not understand the legislation that is the basis of the organisation that he leads.Asking for a survey is a classic bureaucratic move to redefine what is glaringly obvious.

    The more fundamental error he makes is when he states “The NCC has never issued a licence to operate on anybody’s private property…” This is a complete falsehood. Almost ALL the licences that the NCC issues are on people’s private property. Private property extends down to the high water mark as it has done since the British colonised this island. NCC control begins at the high water mark and extends for 33 metres inland ENTIRELY over someones private property unless the beachfront is crown land.


  25. All this nonsense started when some thieving misguided puffed chested marauding villains of the peace landed on the western side of the paradise now called Barbados and drove a stick in the ground……james k of e and of this island.And the rest is history..


  26. @Wily Coyote March 30, 2018 at 6:53 AM #

    Let me explain why it is a waste of time to wait for a survey of the beach to determine the extent of NCC jurisdiction. It’s simple and takes less than 5 minutes and costs $0.

    The part of the beach where the disputed vendors ply their trade is at the end furthest from the hotel. The landward limit of the beach is defined in the Coastal Zone Management Act as where the vegetation covered slope begins. Start there and step heel to toe in a straight line towards the ocean. My sandals are 28 cm long, so it takes me 117 steps to traverse 33 metres. When I’ve counted those off it is childishly simple to judge whether I am below the high water mark.

  27. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    The best example to date is Stewart of sandals who pays no taxes on the island and wont for 40 years unless the concessions are rolled back, so he is benefitting more than the people or island, yet he thinks he is entitled and has a right to do whatever he feels like to the people, encroach on public space on the beaches, try to stop the public from using the beaches as he does in Jamaica and say whatever nastiness he feels like about bajans, what he thinks about them and what he thinks they are not entitled to and would have said even more of he was not very firmly put in his place on social media…to shut his bloated ass up..

    The political cabal takes bribe money and always weaken the people’s position against the greedy.

    Restrictions and boundaries must be set for people wanting to invest on the island going forward and for those currently squatting there.


  28. lawson March 30, 2018 at 6:55 AM #

    You are right. Where are the police in all this?


  29. @Wily Coyote March 30, 2018 at 6:53 AM #

    Another problem with Mr. Neblett’s NCC is that he does not realise that 33 metres is equal to 108.27 ft, not 100 ft.


  30. @Wily

    Neblett is a political appointee and animal. After reported 9 years of meetings with the Crane about the issue this is the best he can offer?


  31. @ PLT
    After the total failure of the NCC to maintain the grass along the ABC highway with hoards of ‘workers’ – and then having a ‘private contractor’ come along and do the job with about four employees….. we fired hundreds of NCC workers – AND KEPT THE GM.

    National idiocy at it best.
    Bushie would have fired the manager …and got the workers to maintain the WHOLE island….or else…

    Good luck expecting him to address ANY meaningful issue…..
    That GM sounds a lot like his big boss Froon…. inept.

    @ PLT
    Your point is clear.
    It is the same with many public roads.
    Individuals may ‘own’ property up to the centre line of a public road, but their right of control does NOT extend into the roadway.
    Same shiite.
    It DOES NOT MATTER what the surveyor maps or boundary lines say…. the NCC is IN TOTAL CONTROL of all lands INLAND of 100 feet of the high water mark.

    At least that is what the LAW says.

    But we KNOW that the NCC leadership is INEPT….. and Barbados is such a shiite place, …contaminated with such shiite lawyers, that this may yet be a bridge too far for us to navigate…..


  32. @PL

    I agree you may have a better understanding of the Legislation than the PRESENT manager, however it still boils down to poorly written legislation results in differing interpretations, yours, mine, Crane Resort and manager. Generally from what I read the manager can see my point and is basically caught between a rock and hard place. Your argument and interpretation comes more from the emotional point of view, the beach is ours philosophy. I fully understand what the poorly written legislation is attempting to do, however its only causing confusion and desent. Legislation such as what the NCC is attempting must be carefully drafted referencing other applicable legislation, Town & Country Planning, Land Titles, Coastal Management just to name a few.

    If the BCC Manager can see an issue requiring land surveys on a frequent basis do you not think that he should initiate corrective proposals with higher up authorities. Oh YES, higher up authorities are on a 90 day paid holiday. Maybe this constitutes a Nation Emergency and GOB can continue in place, ha, ha.

    Bajan politics rival the Nation Newspaper comic strips.


  33. David

    We can see your finger at the top of front page.

    Be careful!

  34. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    The people should not be doing the jobs of government ministers, but they have no choice, the lazy bribetakers cant open their mouth.

    Doyle certainly dont want this exposure hitting North American and European press.

    That is how you set boundaries for the racist and greedy.

    “No contest

    Article by
    Barbados Today
    Published on
    March 29, 2018
    The Crane Resort today announced it would likely shut down its beach operations on Saturday during a planned protest against the luxury hotel.

    General Manager Sean Alleyne said it would not be fair to allow staff and guests of the 130-year-old property to be caught up in the protest, being led by Anthony Gabby Carter, the veteran entertainer and cultural ambassador, who suggested that The Crane wanted to privatize the beach.

    Carter sparked a public outcry yesterday when he publicly declared that hotel owner Paul Doyle had evicted two vendors earlier this month on the grounds that the section on which they had been operating for years belonged to the hotel.

    However, Alleyne told Barbados TODAY an agreement had been reached with the vendors, therefore the planned protest made no sense at all.

    “I don’t see the point in the protest at the Crane beach at this stage. I think that, one, we have solved the issue and two, with that large amount of people planning to come to the beach, I am actually seriously considering closing our entire beach facility,” Alleyne disclosed.

    “I don’t want our staff to be caught up in any melee. So I will more than likely close down our restaurant on the beach and not have our beach people on Saturday if the protest continues,” he stressed, while adding that in good conscience the hotel could not allow its guests to be “down there amongst that”.

    One of the vendors who had been removed, but has since been allowed back to conduct business, confirmed that an agreement had been reached with the hotel for the vendors to continue plying her trade.

    She said the over 150 lounge chairs which the internationally acclaimed hotel had withdrawn from the beach and locked in a container, had all been returned.

    “The Crane released the chairs yesterday and we collected them today and we resumed business as usual. I am in my same location and ready to work. I am happy that we have come to an agreement that this whole situation is not between the vendors and The Crane, but is a Crown issue, and I am back in operation,” Nicole Blades told Barbados TODAY this afternoon.

    Still, Blades, who is in her 40s, and who said she had been conducting her rent-a-beach-chair business from that spot since she was 19, is supporting Saturday’s protest, claiming she had no doubt the resort wanted privatize the beach.

    The vendor said the row had been ongoing for a number of years, and that “privatization” signs had been posted in 2009, 2011, 2016 and 2017, but had been taken down on each occasion after intervention by the National Conservation Commission (NCC).

    “There are issues related to this Crane beach and other beaches . . . and they are trying to privatize. They are trying to find any loophole to say ‘this is my beach, you are not supposed to vend here . . . you are not supposed to walk here . . . you are not supposed to go anywhere unless you are instructed by the guard’, and that shouldn’t be,” Blades contended.

    However, the hotel’s general manager denied that privatization signs had ever been erected on the beach, explaining that “before we had signs up by where our chairs are that said no trespassing. We were having an issue with unlicensed people harassing our guests, trying to sell guests stuff on the beach”.

    Several other vendors have also pledged their support for the weekend protest, arguing the issue went beyond The Crane to what appeared to be attempts by businesses to privatize the island’s beaches.

    “It is a disgusting thing for a businessman who is not even a Bajan to want to come to Barbados and say a beach is his,” Shawn Weekes of Official Coconut Cocktails contended.

    “The protest is not about Crane, it is about the beaches in Barbados,” he added.

    “When they took up the vendors’ chairs, they took money out of the vendors’ pockets because the vendors have families to feed too,” said another, who requested anonymity.

    Quoting from Gabby’s 1982 hit, Jack, he emphasized that it was important that all locals and visitors knew that the island’s beaches fell under the NCC’s mandate.

    Another vendor said the issue of privatization impacted every beach on the island, therefore, “the protest is something good for all Bajans to let them know that we need to stand up for our rights and don’t let other people from [overseas] come and push us around”.

    Meantime, in a statement issued today through the Barbados Government Information Service, NCC General Manager Keith Neblett made it clear there are no private beaches in Barbados.

    Neblett defined a beach as the land adjoining the foreshore of Barbados and extending not beyond 33 metre beyond the landward limit of the foreshore.

    However, he said from time to time beaches got bigger or smaller based on the weather, resulting in changes to the high water mark.

    “We are going to get the chief surveyor from the Ministry of Housing and Lands in a week’s time to establish the clear area of what is a beach. After that is established, there would be no doubt for any person who wants to use the beach at the Crane or any other beach . . . as to what the public has access to,” he said.”


  35. @David

    Political appointee or not, he’s in charge. As PL points out he’s obviously not an off shore trained engineer as he cannot convert meters and feet. I’m sure though he can count the pennies on his pay cheque accurately.

    Poor legislation, poor management are a Barbarian norm, surprised most Bagans have an issue with concept.


  36. Wily Coyote March 30, 2018 at 8:31 AM #

    I agree you may have a better understanding of the Legislation than the PRESENT manager, however it still boils down to poorly written legislation results in differing interpretations, yours, mine, Crane Resort and manager(Quote)

    Spot on. This is what we get: a young lawyer attends Cave Hill, qualifies, goes to Wooding, get his or her LEC, returns to Barbados and gets a job, either in the public or private sector.
    After some work experience decides to do a post-graduate course in legal drafting again at Cave Hill; qualifies and becomes a qualified legal draftsman.
    @Wily, do you see the problem? It is the circulation of mediocrity. No new ideas, no new approaches, no new ways of doing things.
    I know nothing about drafting legislation, but if primary legislation is such that no one knows exactly what is meant then something is wrong. If there is no secondary legislation, no case law, then it is even worse.
    At this stage in the early 21st century we cannot continue to do things as we used to. I have proposed, but national pride would not do it, that drafting al our new legislation should be outsourced to the UK, Australia or Canada, with thee final tweaking being done locally. It is taking a step back, to make a jump forward.
    The alternative is to hire lecturers who were trained at other universities than UWI. Import knowledge.


  37. Wily Coyote March 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM #

    Poor legislation, poor management are a Barbarian norm, surprised most Bagans have an issue with concept.(Quote)

    At last someone is brave enough to say what is wrong with policy-making in Barbados. @Wily, you are spot on. A nation in denial.

  38. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Aĺl Neblett is talking…when NCC finally gets around to the updated survey, it would make sense, be practical and prudent, as a reminder to the greedy and racists who think they own the island and beaches because they bribe the political cabal…..to PUT UP HUGE SIGNS….to the effect that hoteliers and others are not the owners of the islands beaches….put signs on every beach…and send a message, set some boundaries.

    Opposite the corner on Prospect Road heading to Jordan’s supermarket in Fitt’s Village, there has been a sign there for years, think it’s that disgusting piece of shit Steinbok property….claiming that the beach opposite to his property, on the other side of the road, is a private beach…..his property is not even on the beach side and the sign should be taken down, its been there for years, read what these idiots put up, just dont accept everything they do.


  39. Hal Austin March 30, 2018 at 8:43 AM #
    “but if primary legislation is such that no one knows exactly what is meant then something is wrong.”

    Yes Hal, this is the root of the problem. But the “primary legislation” which is all f**ked up is the tradition of British Common Law upon which our entire legal system is based. That is the origin of basing sea property boundaries on the high water mark. There is nothing wrong with the NCC Act or the Coastal Zone Management Act except that it has to fit within the insane legal constructs bequeathed us by our ex colonisers.

    So don’t pour your blame on Cave Hill alone, save the lion’s share for Oxford and London and Cambridge. And for God’s sake don’t outsource the writing of legislation to the UK, Canada, Australia etc: those are the same idiots who screwed it all up in the first place.


  40. Steupsss..
    Neither Hal nor Wily gets the real problem….. which has NOTHING to do with actual competence of knowledge….. Yet they go on and on with the balarky.

    As David correctly said, the GENESIS of the problem is in political appointments.
    Even if Einstein is appoint by a Froon we will still see the same shiite – because it will be either Froon’s way or Ossie Moore will be appointed instead.

    What we need is for the various bodies directing such state agencies to be selected, contracted and empowered to do these duties – based on ethics, competency, and experience based criteria.

    There are more than enough eligible high-quality candidates available – but such quality Bajans tend not to kowtow to shiitehound politicians. So as long as the current shiite SYSTEM persists, they will continue to be unavailable for national service.


  41. @Pacha

    Under construction.

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    This is a Bajan blog so one supposes that the wry remark is indeed correct that “Poor legislation, poor management are a Barbarian norm, surprised most Bagans have an issue with concept.”

    I further suppose that if it were a Brit blog that appropriate substitution to insert ‘…are a British nrom’ would also be apropos!

    After all, I imagine the abject piss-poor management and sterling legislation allowing the tragedy that was the Grenfell Tower was all British with not one, single, solitary Bajan making decisions.

    Not to appear to be defensively deflecting Bajan deficiencies but it becomes ridiculously annoying to routinely see comments assaulting all Bajans for what amounts to standard all-world human failings…#keepingitreal.

    And @Hal, am I to understand from you that Aussies, Brits and the Mapleleafers draft their legislation very clearly and well?…Like you I know nothing about legal drafting but based on the voluminous work of the law courts in those countries on several cases dealing almost exclusively on the interpretations of statutes it seems to me they too have a few Use-of-English issues as well.

    And isn’t university study ALL about incorporating knowledge from multiple experts on already well defined practices and knowledge??

    Are you REALLY suggesting that a UWI grad is only fed “local” knowledge to the exclusion of the applicable rules and regs and best practices from relevant sources wherever they may be??

    In this modern era what is possible course study in Perth, for example, other that an agreement between colleges and a WiFi connection??

    Some of your remarks completely defy reason and logic….just saying, bro!


  43. The part of the beach where the disputed vendors ply their trade is at the end furthest from the hotel.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Go and look at the beach!!!

    The part of the beach furthest from the hotel where the disputed vendors ply their trade is not beach, it is this morning …. sea as it is I reckon, most mornings, and evenings and nights!!

    …. and it is low tide!!

    https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Bridgetown-Barbados/tides/latest

    The law and its interpretation is completely irrelevant if there is no beach.

    The sea has squeezed the vendors off the beach!!!!

    The only part left for beach chairs looks to be the area nearest the hotel … and it is small!!!

    Go look at a google earth image of the south coast and you will see where the sand probably went!!

    If a whole set of Bajans turn up expecting to protest on the beach on Saturday they will have great difficulty following the stepping stones on the bouldrs to the beach and if they manage to negotiate the “beach access” without bursting their asses, they will land themselves in the sea.

    The only beach they can protest on looks like it is private property …. unless the NCC has granted a license to protest!!

    If they get there in the afternoon tomorrow, it will be getting to high tide (3:29pm) so it will only be …. worser.

    Maybe it would be good for a whole set of idiotic Bajans to go and see for themselves what has happened to “their beach”.

    Go and look at the South Coast!!


  44. John March 30, 2018 at 9:23 AM #

    Exactly my point John! There is no need for the NCC to waste time and money on a survey. If you pace it off and are up to your knees in the water the survey is DONE.

    But you are still missing the point of the NCC legislation. All of the beach is private property that Mr. Doyle pays taxes on, but ALL of the beach is open to the public for protests, sunbathing or whatever else they want to do there. Doyle has TITLE, he does not have CONTROL, the NCC does.


  45. Peter Lawrence Thompson March 30, 2018 at 9:02 AM #

    I am not here to defend Oxford, and London and Cambridge. In case you did not realise it, I am black and Oxford is not a popular home for black people.
    I am not sure why some people think that to criticise certain institutions in Barbados is to imply that the UK is best.
    If the common law tradition is the problem, then change it. The Scots do not follow the English common law tradition and they are part of the UK. After 50 years at least we are competent enough to do this.
    But for a nation that cannot even sort out a serious public health problem what else do you expect?


  46. On a certain Friday night in late August at full moon in ’61,I drove onto the Crane Beach along with several friends for a moo’lite picnic lime.A young would be guitarist was serenading the gathering with a favourite calypso of a bajan smart man in Trinidad.My inviter,whom I dated, later introduced me to her friend whose brother she dated unknown to me.That introduced damsel just passed in front of me in our shared space.There are those times when I wondered what if……


  47. @Art ax, the authors said she spent many a day at the Crane, and her grandma’s house which is a stones throw away from the hotels property. So I am thinking that when these developments were going on that she probably would have known somehow. Or maybe she was overseas, who knows. @Coyote… I grew up in the Crane. the development and expansion of the hotel started in the early 2000’s. So you are totally incorrect. In fact former PM Aurthur said he had to prod the CTP to give the Crane permission to build those massive structures that they have now. I know a lot of you all will not remember that. With regards to the beach expansion and rehabilitation, huge mounds of sand were placed close by the mini roundabout at the Crane when lizThompson was MOE. But those 2 Canadians have the rehabilitation stalled. Also to the pOwers that be, when the hotel was expanding, I still use to go up there to pick sea grapes and huge mains were being placed underground and they existed the cliff rock into the sea. This is the cliff before you get to the ‘horse’. The authorities needs to look and see what is being dumped into the ocean. I know they started to dump some horrid smelling black sludge by rocks close to the restaurant that end up killing the small causuarina trees and dumped this sludge under the hundred years old machineedle tree…


  48. @John. … welches beaches suffered from erosion and was rehabilitated donkey years ago. I travelled that route everyday in college and remembered seeing catapillar placing boulders out in the sea to make groynes. Then some sea vegetation was planted.


  49. Doyle has TITLE, he does not have CONTROL, the NCC does.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So if a bunch of Bajans go up there and negotiate the stepping stones down to the beach/sea and in the process burst their asses … the NCC is liable!!

    … or will the organisers bear responsibility??

    The road that once went down to the beach is blocked!!!

    The metal grate over the drain is corroded and is wafer thin!!

    The organisers of this protest have not thought this out and there is a serious risk of injury to the public.

    Who exactly are the organisers of this lunacy?

    This is not in the public interest.

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