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Grenville Phillips II, leader of Solutions Barbados

On 21 April 2017, I attended a public meeting by the Barbados Private Sector Association and was disappointed by their austerity-based solutions to Barbados’ dire economic situation.  The Government, private sector merchants, financial institutions and individual economists are warning us to brace for austerity.  Eight years ago, austerity meant forcing most Barbadians to access their savings in order to survive.  Today, it means to force most Barbadians into poverty.

Approximately 2 years ago, Solutions Barbados published a plan to bring Barbados back from the brink of economic ruin without the austerity promised by others.  The plan is based on proven solutions and is still relevant.  However, the Government continues to ignore this plan while stubbornly pursuing its strategy; while the IMF warns of devaluation.

We have shared our plan with anyone who will listen, including the NUPW and CTUSAB.  It was also published in both print and on-line news media, and also on the radio.  To-date, the responses have been overwhelmingly positive, because the plans are workable.  The published plan consists of 4 main steps – none of which require laying-off civil servants, reducing their wages, incurring additional Government spending, or begging other countries to lend us money.

Step 1 is to increase Government’s local currency revenues to run the Government and pay local currency debts.  This can be done by reducing taxes on personal and corporate revenues to 10% of gross revenues – with no deductions.  This will make taxes easier to calculate, pay and audit.  It is also fairer.

Currently, businesses pay taxes on net-profits.  Therefore, it is possible to run a successful business for decades without paying any corporate taxes.  However, since the Government must obtain revenue, the taxes that such businesses currently legally avoid paying are extracted from the rest of us.  Well, not under a Solutions Barbados administration.

To facilitate the prompt payment of all taxes, all taxes previously owed to all Government departments will be forgiven and VAT will be abolished.  Businesses are currently being forced to pay VAT when they issue an invoice, rather than when they receive payment.  This is unfair, because businesses may not get their invoices paid until months later – or never.  Taxing businesses before they receive payment is an insidious method of taxation that can both prevent businesses from growing, and reduce their competitiveness.

The forgiveness of debts to Government should have happened as part of our 50th anniversary jubilee celebrations.  However, only a few select persons benefitted financially from those celebrations.  Therefore, everyone will start with a ‘clean slate’.  In exchange, all new non-payment of taxes will attract a penalty of 10 times the value of the outstanding amount for those who blatantly refuse to pay.  Those who refuse to pay taxes under a Solutions Barbados administration will be competing unfairly in our economy, and that will not be encouraged.

Step 2 is to increase foreign currency revenues in order to pay for imports and foreign currency debts.  This can be done by temporarily reducing taxes on all foreign currency earnings to zero.

Step 3 is to increase productivity in both the public and private sectors, and reduce wastage and unnecessary costs in the public sector.  This can be done by managing all public services to the ISO 9001 Quality Management System.  Parts of the ISO 9001 system can be implemented across the entire public service immediately, to the benefit (and relief) of those who deliver and receive Government services – at no additional cost to Government.

One low hanging wastage fruit is to stop public workers from paying income taxes.  Currently, the private sector must pay additional taxes, which are then given to public sector workers, who then give it to the Government.  The accounting bureaucracy and costs required to manage the taxation of the estimated 25,000 public workers can be easily avoided.

Step 4 is to depoliticize the public service.  In a Solutions Barbados administration, public workers will be selected and promoted on merit alone.

Any of these steps taken by themselves will not pull Barbados back from the brink, because frustrated public services can frustrate the entire process.  Therefore, they must all be taken together.  We need an increase in local and foreign currency revenues, and a better managed and depoliticized public service.  The Minister of Finance is strongly advised to examine our plan before we run out of viable options.  We continue to be available to discuss it.

Grenville Phillips II is the founder of Solutions Barbados and can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

314 responses to “The Grenville Phillips Column – The Alternative to Austerity”

  1. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea
    Objective measurements of the results of austerity programs says it does not work. The reduction of economic activity that austerity induces more than counteracts the savings to the public purse that it generates.

  2. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea
    The problem is not “to find $1.7B,” the problem is to design and implement a system of public finance that is sustainable, meets the needs of the population, and has the consent of the majority of Bajans.


  3. @ Artax
    Boss, you understand this situation too well…and you are much too aware of the dire prospects we face ….to be joking about this one…

    @ David
    Even IF Solutions Barbados can show that his model is better, believe it or not, that on its own will not be enough to resonate with ordinary people.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Glad that you realise that.
    People get what they DESERVE. … not what they desire.
    The trick is to to merge the two….

    Our desires are quite noble…
    What we ‘deserve’ is another matter altogether…
    …best reflected in the monument that Froon was able to construct at the Garrison…


  4. @ PLT
    Objective measurements of the results of austerity programs says it does not work.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Boss, this is Bush Tea …not Dribbler… 🙂

    …does not ‘work’ …to achieve what? …to allow lazy unproductive people to live like kings?
    When did THAT become life’s objective?

    It works WONDERS to bring home the REALITY that we are intended to live within our means in accord with Nature’s LAW of meritocracy.

    Does walking off a cliff ‘work’?
    Not if the objective is a long and healthy life.
    But if our collective leadership could somehow be persuaded to try it ….the answer could be quite different….
    LOL
    ha ha ha


  5. Thanks for your response. Now answer the other part: are these high earners currently paying less than 10%?
    I am at a lost at how without any numbers, a proposal to radically change our tax system is swallowed up by intelligent people like manna. Why 10 and not 12 or 5%? Like others have asked, where is the evidence to support that 10% would lead to an increase in tax revenues? How would a tax on gross revenue impact businesses’ profifability, hiring, maintenance of jobs, expansion and survival? Less taxes means higher consumption (I assume) with VAT discontinued how would higher consumption benefit the government in numbers? More imported goods/forex? What percentage of the tax paying workforce is comprised of public servants, and how would removing all public servants from the tax roll impact tax revenue?#notanintelligentengineerorwhacker.


  6. @Bush Tea

    If we take it to the end it points to how we have educated our people then? What other conclusion is there is the population is unable to critically analyze and inform our decisions.

  7. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    I would have widen the tax net more by introducing a minimum business tax . Whether you made a loss or profit every registered business in Bim would be subjected to this tax.

  8. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David May 5, 2017 at 10:06 AM #

    We are yet to hear how the immediate loan repayments in June will be dealt with…..restructuring of loans…..IMF…..UAE…..what is the recommendation from Solutions?

    So far we are dealing with a management plan to present to the IMF or any new lending agency on good governance for the way forward.

    So Solutions will identify individuals for ministries who will pick their advisors for the respective areas……..very interesting.


  9. @Vincent

    Good point, the pragmatic position must be reducing our cost of debt because at current level it continues to negatively impact the ability /capacity to develop.

  10. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @Bush Tea
    Austerity does not work to reduce the fiscal deficit in a sustainable way. It cuts expenditures in the short term, but then damages revenues in ways that offset the expenditure cuts.

  11. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @David & Vincent
    There is only one viable option to reduce the cost of our current debt: an IMF program. The UAE option is pie in the sky. There is no reason for the UAE to extend concessionary terms on debt restructuring; if they made an offer it would undoubtedly include some sort of quid pro quo that would be catastrophic for Bajans’ long term interests.


  12. @Peter

    To assert that entering an IMF program is the solution we need to be told the quantum of drawdown available and the strategy to propel growth read disrupt the current approach to avoid recurrence.

  13. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @Enuff
    I do not have the data on how many high earners are paying less than 10% in Barbados.
    Personally, I very much doubt that a 10% tax on incomes and gross corporate revenues would lead to an increase in public revenue, but until someone does a thorough analysis using a credible financial model my opinion is worth only 2¢.
    A tax on the gross revenue of a business introduces certain complications. Businesses in different industries operate with very different profit margins http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/margin.html. For example in the financial sector a business might expect $2 in profit from every $10 in sales revenue, while a grocery business might only expect 10¢ in profit from every $10 in sales revenue. However, both would owe $1 in tax on that $10 in revenue. This doesn’t mean that Grenville’s idea can’t work, just that the grocer would have to adjust his prices and the cost would get passed on to the consumer.
    The idea of removing all public servants from the tax roll seems to me utterly illogical. I assume that it is included as a political tactic to gain the support of the island’s most powerful unions.

  14. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @David
    An IMF program is NOT a solution… it is simply a tourniquet to stop us from bleeding out and dying while we search for a solution.


  15. @Peter

    Understood: solution to give forex relief and reduce debt cost.

  16. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @David
    Exactly. If I can pursue a different medical analogy, debt a symptom of our disease as fever is a symptom of chikungunya. For chik-v the cause of the disease is a virus, for Bajans the cause of our disease lies in our culture. The doctor can prescribe aspirin to manage the chik-v fever so that we don’t get brain damage or die, but the aspirin does nothing to combat the virus. The IMF can assist with bridging loans and help us refinance existing debt so that we do not have a default or economic collapse, but this does nothing to combat the disease in our culture.


  17. Peter what is so disappointing given the protracted economic problems Barbados has had to suffer is the absolute lack of informed national discussion -devoid of partisan poltical poppycock.

  18. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    David, partisan political poppycock is another symptom of the cultural disease. Brass Bowl Syndrome

  19. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    peterlawrencethompson May 5, 2017 at 11:31 AM #

    Thats my understanding on the IMF as well,hence the need for whoever takes over the govt next knowing they must sign onto the IMF conditions that were accepted by the previous govt…..the IMF will recall the previous bad experience and more than likely ensure stringent clauses on disbursement are part of the agreement……which is why all stakeholders should be involved in the negotiations with the IMF.


  20. @ David

    Many people who would want to have independent discussions about the economy often experience some difficulties in accessing the relevant information to facilitate such discussions.

    And as you are aware, many of the economists are associated with political parties. Hence, their analysis are seen as being skewed towards partisan rhetoric.

    Unfortunately, the opinions of individuals such as Marla Dukharan, who do not have any political affiliation but offer an independent assessment, are dismissed.

  21. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @nextparty246
    The more I study the Solutions Barbados tax policy outline the more I become convinced that there is less here than meets the eye.
    At first the idea of taxing corporate revenue rather than income seemed to be a productive new direction for making corporations shoulder a fairer proportion of paying for the public services that enable their existence, but I grow increasingly skeptical.
    Taxing corporate revenue is functionally equivalent to taxing corporate sales. What this amounts to is a Sales Tax, a consumption tax that will inevitably be passed on to consumers, leaving corporate profits entirely untaxed.
    This proposal amounts to a plan to replace one consumption tax, the VAT, with another consumption tax, the new corporate sales tax, while reducing the income tax payable by the highest earners, increasing income tax for poor people, and exempting corporate profits from taxation altogether.
    It looks like I owe de pedantic Dribbler an apology. It is looking more and more to me like discredited “supply side” nonsense.


  22. @Vincent

    This is why a government one year out from a general election should seek a mandate BEFORE entering an IMF program.

    @Artax

    Agree with you to a point. Even if the data was available one senses the culture that Peter alluded would be still be a factor.

  23. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Peter

    Thanks for the analysis.

    David

    The PM has just decided to charge more for natural gas but no word on June unless
    he is waiting for the acting Gov. and the Min. of Finance to deliver the news.

  24. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lesson for today for all politicians, this is the result of years of corruption, neglect, incompetence, arrogance and bad leadership……it bankrupts a country Puerto Rico is bankrupt……any country. Venezuela is another hirrud example when dictators and dictatorships are introduced.

    Puerto Rico declares bankruptcy. Here’s how it will unfold
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    Nathan Bomey
    1 day ago
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    Saddled by mountainous debts and undermined by rapid population loss, Puerto Rico filed for the equivalent of bankruptcy protection Wednesday in a historic move that will trigger a fierce legal battle, with the fate of the island’s citizens, creditors and workers at stake.

    The oversight board appointed to lead the U.S. territory back to fiscal sustainability declared in a court filing that it is “unable to provide its citizens effective services,” crushed by $74 billion in debts and $49 billion in pension liabilities.

    The filing casts a shadow of uncertainty over the future of Puerto Rico pensioners, American retirees who own the island’s debt, institutional investors who backed the island in good times and businesses with lucrative contracts.

    But it could also provide hope to residents hoping to preserve access to basic services such as public safety and health care, while also offering a potential route to economic stability for an island that has been suffering for years. Puerto Rico officials have complained that their debt crisis has cut off funds needed to pay doctors and run schools.

    Puerto Rico has lost 20% of its jobs since 2007 and 10% of its population, sparking an economic crisis that worsens by the day.

    The island’s response has worsened matters. Politicians raised taxes, allowed governmental bureaucracy to balloon, borrowed to pay the bills and promised pensions that the island could not afford.

    “The result is that Puerto Rico can no longer fully pay its debt and pay for government services,” the oversight board said in a court filing. “Nor can Puerto Rico refinance its debt—it no longer has access to the capital markets. In short, Puerto Rico’s crisis has reached a breaking point.”

    The island’s slumping economy was, perhaps, the final straw. Some 6 in 10 Puerto Ricans are unemployed or not interested in working, and nearly half are enrolled in Medicaid.

    Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens and can move to the mainland at any time — tens of thousands haved streamed into Florida, in particular — draining the island’s tax base.

    The legal case is not technically considered a bankruptcy filing under the federal code that governs municipal cases, but it’s similar. Instead, it was filed through a bankruptcy-like mechanism dubbed Title III of legislation authorized by Congress and signed into law by President Obama in 2016.

    Here are key questions to watch:

    What happens next?
    U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts will appoint a life-tenured judge, likely a U.S. District Court judge, to oversee the case, said Melissa Jacoby, a University of North Carolina law professor and expert on municipal bankruptcy.

    That’s different than Chapter 9 municipal bankruptcy cases, where a bankruptcy judge controls the process.

    The person appointed to oversee the case will have significant power over how it unfolds.

    This particular debt-cutting process has never occurred, so the lack of legal precedent could leave the judge with much sway over the future of Puerto Rico.

    What does the oversight board do?
    The oversight board will aim to negotiate debt cuts with creditors, after which it will propose a plan of adjustment. The judge will decide whether to authorize the plan, which could lead to massive debt cuts.

    How will investors be treated?
    They’re in trouble.

    To be sure, it depends on the status of their debt. If they hold secured bonds, they might get paid in full. But unsecured bondholders could suffer significant cuts, depending on which types of debt the judge determines to be vulnerable.

    Financial creditors, including major investors that had bet on Puerto Rico brands that were exempt from federal, state and local taxes, argue that their investments were made when the island was not eligible for bankruptcy.

    But Congress passed Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act (PROMESA) specifically to create a process that allows the island’s numerous debt-saddled governmental entities to achieve debt relief.

    Complicating matters is the various governmental entities included in the bankruptcy filing, each of which has its own investors and creditors wanting to be paid.

    “It really isn’t clear how creditors stack up against each other,” Jacoby said.

    Moody’s Investor Service Vice President Ted Hampton concluded Wednesday that the bankruptcy filing is actually “a positive step for bondholders overall” because it will bring about “orderly process that should be better for creditors in the aggregate than a chaotic and uncertain period involving proliferating lawsuits.”

    What happens to Puerto Rico pensioners?
    They might face cuts because Puerto Rico’s pension funds are broke.

    In the Chapter 9 bankruptcy of Detroit, retirees agreed to accept cuts after a federal judge ruled that their pensions could be cut in municipal bankruptcy. That could pave the way for a similar ruling in Puerto Rico.

    The PROMESA law states that the oversight board must identify a fiscal plan that will “provide adequate funding for public pension systems.”

    Puerto Rico pensioners also have certain legal protections, but inside of bankruptcy those protections can collapse. That’s exactly what happened in Detroit.

    That’s why pension cuts and reductions to health care insurance could be in the cards.

    But pensioners may still fare better than investors, Municipal Market Analytics analyst Matt Fabian suggested Tuesday in a research note. That’s because pensioners are more politically empathetic than Wall Street creditors and bond insurers.

    Could Puerto Rico sell off assets to pay some debts?
    That’s possible. In Detroit, which had $18 billion in debt, the city faced pressure from creditors and pensioners to consider selling off the city-owned Detroit Institute of Arts. The city instead negotiated a deal to avoid liquidating art and collected an infusion of cash from private donors and the state of Michigan.

    The city could not be forced to sell assets because Chapter 9 bankruptcy prevents federal judges from ordering municipalities to take such actions.

    Similarly, PROMESA dictates that the court may not “interfere with” the island’s “property or revenues,” without the oversight board’s consent.

    So a judge may not be able to order the island to sell off beach-front property.

    But that doesn’t mean creditors won’t try to pressure the island into it.

    “I wouldn’t be surprised because we’ve seen it in other contexts,” Jacoby said.

    Follow USA TODAY reporter Nathan Bomey on Twitter @NathanBomey.

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  26. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    This should sound familiar to us, except for the promising pensions they cant afford part, it can be replaced with ministers in Barbados picking up pensioner’s money and giving it away.

    “The island’s response has worsened matters. Politicians raised taxes, allowed governmental bureaucracy to balloon, borrowed to pay the bills and promised pensions that the island could not afford.

    “The result is that Puerto Rico can no longer fully pay its debt and pay for government services,” the oversight board said in a court filing. “Nor can Puerto Rico refinance its debt—it no longer has access to the capital markets. In short, Puerto Rico’s crisis has reached a breaking point.”

  27. Simple Simon Avatar

    It looks like incompetence, mismanagement, bureaucratic bungling, deceit, ruthlessness, cover-ups, apathy, expediency and cynical indifference to me.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “It looks like I owe de pedantic Dribbler an apology. It is looking more and more to me like discredited “supply side” nonsense.”

    That’s why I said Grenville should listen to criticism no matter how hard it is to hear, people usually need time to digest and analyze any data, no one can rush and accept ideas and proposals without first researching and thinking……

    …..these are terrible times, the system in crashing, nothing can be taken lightly, particularly politicians telling us how they will move mountains, we have all heard that song before and seen the movies several times.

    Rethink, reevalute and re engineer those plans, or you will be the one heading a bankrupt island…Grenville.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Simple…sounds real familiar, sounds just like Barbados.

    Plus the piece of shit rednecks in Washington view the PR residents as niggas with curly hair, so there is no great rush to help the island, I remember years ago one of the lowlife senators sat on his uppity throne in Washington and called Puerto Rico a welfare state….after testing all their bombs down there and negatively impacting the people’s health….ya can imagine how many guns and drugs been mysteriously turning up there, the murder rate has been in the stratosphere for decades.


  30. PLT
    Solutions’ approach to tax policy is reflective of the “business” persons he has so far announced as candidates. Study it!


  31. @ PLT
    The more I study the Solutions Barbados tax policy outline the more I become convinced that there is less here than meets the eye.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The more Bushie reads your submissions the more confused you sound.

    So who do you think pays the taxes that are ultimately slapped on businesses anyway?
    The corporations themselves…?
    Boss, it is ALWAYS the consumers….or the state (which is also the consumers…)

    If we were to find a way to genuinely calculate REAL profit…and to tax that ….don’t you think that they would then seek to recoup the additional amounts from customers….?
    These are greedy people.

    Right now, the STATE is being ripped off by false profit declarations which result in reduced state incomes; high returns to businesses; AND in lower-than-should-be-the-case prices for customers….. and hence in higher levels of CONSUMPTION than should be the case…. and high IMPORT costs to strain forex.

    A tax on sales would remove the losses from the state and place additional burden on consumers – resulting in moderated consumption.
    Moderated consumption reduces national fiscal pressures that cause deficits…..
    Moderated consumption encourages local substitution… and possible exports…

    The fact that the business PEOPLE may end up with the same high levels of returns as before would need to be addressed by their PERSONAL tax declarations…. again a simple flat rate with no deductibles….

    This is not really very complex…. The basic problem is that wunna albino-centric-minded bloggers have this disposition that CONSUMPTION is sacrosanct and that consumers have a sacred RIGHT to unlimited high quality, low-cost goods … no matter what….

    But it is only by the sweat of a man’s brow… (meritocracy) … is he so entitled

  32. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Peter

    The most recent breakdown of Bajan tax revenue that I can find online is from 2015 (from the OECD https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=REVBAR)

    VAT brings in 30%
    The NIS is allocated 20%
    Income tax brings in 16%
    Corporate tax brings in 8%
    Customs & duties bring in 8%
    Land tax & property taxes bring in 5%
    Excise taxes bring in 5%
    …………………………………………

    Back to the discussion on VAT…

    It is the single biggest earner that makes the merchants and the govt happy as other than admin costs it is a freeness.

    Your socialist argument will not hold water with succesive govts that are not interested in doing the hard graft.

    I cannot see any reason why the IMF would want to change it.

  33. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Peter, in blog-sphere hurly burly that is quite magnanimous …smile. No apology needed, senor…simply because you have carefully provided a rational and practical assessment of Phillips’ proposals. Agree or disagree yours was always facts based.

    I would certainly look for and demand an apology from folks like the Bushman for his absolutely irrational screeds that say nada about the key points of discourse…. his BBE hell would freeze over 10 times before I receive dat tho … LOLL.

    This entire Grenville ting lacking any of the riguer and projections that he would demand of his most junior draftsman/woman is either an old-school joke gone awry or a national flight of fancy on his personal plane-ride to top the political podium.

    I enjoy a good joke like everyone else so no problem there…and or national politics is a laughing stock anyhow!

    And I have no problems taking a free ride on a Grenville power plane trip…we have all been there before with ambitious men/women!

    @Bushman, you obviously write to amuse yourself.

    What miss-mash is : “So who do you think pays the taxes that are ultimately slapped on businesses anyway? The corporations themselves…? Boss, it is ALWAYS the consumers….or the state (which is also the consumers…)

    What an absolutely remarkable statement of confusing tautology…and you call @PLT’s reasonable remarks confusing!

    Good heavens…in reality – since Adam started ‘buying’ apples- ‘every corporate cost’ to provide a consumer widget/ service and ‘every national cost’ to produce a service is essentially always finally borne by the consumer.

    What exactly is your point???

    Businesses are there so support a consumer need. Of course businessmen are greedy and over-impose their will on a ‘gullible’ consumer but in a democratic society consumers have choices and can support companies who are desirable partners to those in society.

    It’s nonsensical to say : “This is not really very complex…. The basic problem is that wunna albino-centric-minded bloggers have this disposition that CONSUMPTION is sacrosanct and that consumers have a sacred RIGHT to unlimited high quality, low-cost goods … no matter what….”

    Who gave the consumer the sacred right other than they themselves?

    Why are they buying some product from China or from US rather than GOYA outta Jamaica or homemade Eve or FarmersChoice.

    ???? You said: “A tax on sales would remove the losses from the state and place additional burden on consumers – resulting in moderated consumption. Moderated consumption reduces national fiscal pressures that cause deficits…..”

    Did I miss a class or something? Isn’t VAT a tax on sales? Isn’t the bro planning to do away with VAT???

    At times your screeds are so incomprehensible at a standard business level that you must be checking to see if anyone is paying attention or for that self-amusement. Truly amusing!

  34. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    dpD

    Wuhloss……you are attempting to have a discussion with Bushie…..you serious??

    Skippah in order for that to happen you have to ask the BBE to give him permission to get his brains out of the locker and to put them in…..they may work….

  35. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
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    @ Bush Tea
    I’m not confused at all now that I’ve unmasked the proposed corporate gross revenue tax as a consumption tax in disguise. I know that it is always actual people who pay the taxes, not the artificial people (corporations). The problem is always specifically which people bear that burden.

    I entirely agree that under the current dispensation “the STATE is being ripped off by false profit declarations which result in reduced state incomes.”

    Problem#1 with the Solutions Barbados plan is that it is certain to further reduce state incomes, widen the fiscal deficit, and further trash our credit rating:

    Exhibit A: replace a 17.5% consumption tax with a 10% consumption tax means reduced state income even if it spurs some growth,
    Exhibit B: reduce the income tax payable by high income earners from 16%-33.5% all the way down to 10% very likely means reduced state income even when all deductions and loopholes are eliminated because the wealthy will still be able to conceal their income in corporations that they set up for that purpose,
    Exhibit C: increased income tax for those making less than $61,012/year… this will increase state income but not enough to offset the other losses (and it will hit the working class and lower middle class hard)
    Exhibit D: and this is the killer, huge cut in state income because we have given up on taxing corporate profits so we just give about $250 million back to corporate greedheads without them even asking for it nicely.


  36. Peterlawrence,
    False profit declarations is a criminal offence. What is our accountancy profession doing to protect its integrity? The main reason why companies declare bogus profits is so that the senior executives can get higher bonuses – that too is an offence: obtaining by deception. This is old news. Remember Enron, Parmalat, Krispy Kreem, et al?

  37. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hal Austin
    As an accountancy professional can you discern any difference between a tax on corporate gross sales revenue and a consumption tax?

  38. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @PLT in another world and place (let’s say a fake place called USAofBim) if a man who was a wealthy businessman surrounded himself with like minded business people – some as wealthy, some not – and offered such a corporate tax program which directly and clearly redounds to their personal benefit then some would say “the fix is on”.

    But despite the realities we see in the USA and how that businessman’s actions improve his eponymous operations I would strongly say that the same is not true of Phillips.

    Realistically he is cut of a much sterner stuff and is a man of integrity.

    The fact remains however that his ‘supply-side’ policies are the foundational planks of a Republican type mantra of less regulation and less taxation for businesses and smaller government.

    Historical review shows us that in reality less regulation and ‘social welfare’ simply means greater ‘corporate welfare’ in the form of giving private contracts (sometimes no bid) to complete the same tasks – supposedly more efficiently – once done by government departments.

    As an example of awesome corporate welfare the billions of $$ paid to the private army forces in Iraq like Blackwater/Xe/Academia (and others). A task that would otherwise have been handled by US military personnel was subcontracted to former US personnel at vastly higher costs!

    I will give Mr Phillips the benefit of the doubt that he is not merely spewing the same prescriptions that cater to the well-to-do and one that shifts money from the left hand to the right hand under a guise of greater efficiency and accountability.

  39. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @dPD
    I know Grenville to be an honorable man. I have no doubt that he is trying to do the right thing.


  40. Puerto Rico is bankrupt now. Which island will follow next?

  41. CUP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI Avatar
    CUP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI

    William Skinner May 5, 2017 at 7:47 AM #HAHHAHAHAHAHAHe must be prepared to go on the trenches@@@

    Will-i- am @ dot talk so hard the man might cry, I talk to him face to face for 2 hours the man still asleep. He don’t get it as yet, Someone in his Party has to smarter than him, He can not be the Next PM, best yet a back up for the DBLP government and a spolier for all other parties,

  42. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    For all of you who think that Barbados is the worst place on Earth , just let this sink in:

    “Figures reveal EU has a £203 BILLION HOLE in its budget and DIFFICULTY PAYING BILLS”

    The European Commission (EC), which oversees the budget and is run by unelected president Jean-Claude Juncker, says it tried to make the funding crisis “disappear” .

  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Carson….just count ya lucky stars that Barbados is tiny, tiny, tiny, with a tiny, tiny, tiny population and nowhere in the league that can bring mpr suffering down on the people, given that the retards in parliament dont know what to do about the problems that now exist in that tiny, tiny, tiny economy.

  44. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Peter, your details have been insightful. Maybe you can offer your services to young Phillips being a fellow activist keenly interested in the upward mobility of this nation. He could do well to bring an experienced professional like you onto his team as an analyst who is willing to flesh out the numbers.

    From your analysis and the following plucked from online data banks, Grenville’s policy prescriptions leave lots of questions unanswered.

    US research (PEW Center, 2014) shows that people – the 3% bracket of top income earners… like our local top businessmen, professionals and the like – with adjusted gross income (AGI) greater than $250,000 paid 51.6% of ALL individual income taxes. Yes, that is HALF the total income taxes collected.

    But likely there are a select few only who earn that annually in Bdos but the fact is that a much larger contingent earn more than $100,000…that total group according to the survey paid into the US treasury a whopping 79.4% of all income.

    Further analysis indicated that the average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by the cumulative AGI) for the top segment of this group was 25.7%.

    When compared to average earners with total incomes of less than $50,000 the survey noted that they paid just 5.7% of total taxes and had an average tax rate of 4.3%.

    It’s fair to extrapolate and make comparative presumptions for Bim that our top earners pay the bulk of the total tax here too and on average enjoy a rate well below the actual expected tax rate …

    … then it seems that Mr Phillps’ 10% flat rate is increasing TWICE over the average rate of the Bajans who need every dollar to survive and REDUCING twice over the average rate of the wealthiest Bajans who have lots of extra money at their discretion.

    As you alluded to above this appears a recipe for disaster as the fall-off in actual tax revenue could be precipitous.

    Where are his hard facts to support his assertions??

  45. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Tron. I wouldn’t be that alarmed about Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans have 50 states( options) to choose from and they still got the largest and most infrastructurally developed economy in caribbean.

    If PR was an independent nation, their present fiscal crisis could have been averted. Their debt to GDP ratio (73%) is still manageable by international standard. How ironic.

  46. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    David

    I asked you a question of the poster war page, why are the posters not featuring on BU, but only the address. Did you not see the post?

  47. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @PLT
    thank you for that information. I cannot truly consider NIS contributions as a tax. Beyond VAT, which I expected to be #1 by some margin, more broadly, and evenly spread than I expected.

    Tax revenue has been FLAT since 2006. Expenses have not, hence the annual deficits and the growing debt.

    I am not yet buying these proposed tax changes, will produce significant extra revenue.

    His argument against VAT, while understood at a business cash flow level, should be easily overcome by credits for unpaid invoices? The greater issue in Bim is businesses collecting VAT and NOT remitting it. (the opposite of his argument) And hence, collecting any new form of tax will face the same difficulties.

    I will await his equivalent on public expenses.


  48. @SSS

    Will have to raise a ticket with WordPress support. Sorry for the late reply.

  49. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Grenville now has more than information to help him fix the flaws in his economic tax plans, hope he utilizes the critique wisely, people will know if he dont.

    Lawson…..just watch you and Chad’s coward boyfriend in Washington back away from his big talk, big threats and reverse that tariff..lol

    “Canada hits back in lumber dispute, threatens action against U.S.
    Reuters
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    Canada struck back at the United States over a lumber dispute on Friday, threatening to ban shipments of U.S. thermal coal from Pacific ports and suggesting sanctions against products from Oregon.

    Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his government will defend the timber industry against what he calls an unfair U.S. decision last month to impose tariffs on exports of softwood lumber.

    Trudeau said Ottawa would study whether to stop U.S. firms from shipping thermal coal via the Pacific province of British Columbia. Provincial Premier Christy Clark asked for the ban in response to the U.S. tariffs.

    Canada is also considering duties on exports from Oregon such as wine, flooring and plywood, said a source close to the matter, citing Oregon Democratic Senator Ron Wyden’s prominent role in pressing for the lumber tariffs.

    Analysts said Cloud Peak Energy Inc would be the biggest coal producer affected by a British Columbia ban or levy. Coal is railed to those ports by Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp, owned by Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

    The dispute threatens to cloud talks on updating the North American Free Trade Agreement, which are set to start this year. NAFTA groups Canada, the United States and Mexico.

    Washington’s imposition of tariffs kicked off the fifth formal bilateral dispute over timber in less than 40 years. U.S. producers say Canadian lumber is unfairly subsidized, a charge Canada has successfully fought in trade tribunals.

    British Columbia is a major lumber exporter and says the duties will devastate its industry.

    Clark, who faces a May 9 election, vows to apply a levy on thermal coal exports if she retains power and Trudeau does not agree to a ban. A shortage of port capacity means some U.S. coal firms rely on Canada.

    “The government of Canada is considering this request carefully and seriously,” Trudeau said.

    A White House official did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The United States exported 1.2 million short tons of thermal coal into Canada in 2016, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. It is unclear how much of that coal was later sent to Asia through British Columbia ports. (Additional reporting by Richard Valdmanis and Valerie Volcovici in Washington; Editing by James Dalgleish and Lisa Shumaker)”

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