Submitted by Pachamama

trumpWe’ve spent considerable time trying to understand the meanings for the election of Donald Trump. And while he has been talking loud but saying little, we refused to relocate our primary foci as trained on the ‘deep state’ forces surrounding him.

Yes, anyone calling himself POTUS must have some influence. But we’ve had presidents before who made all kinds of grandiose claims while foreign and domestic policy continues, on autopilot. Continued as if guided by an imperceptible, invisible force of nature. The adage of an invisible hand, you may say?

Trump’s own domestic policy, casted in broad strokes, has not gotten off to a very auspicious start. On both domestic and foreign policy Trump’s mouthings have a number of commonalities with the establishment agenda. It may be a matter of who is really boss. Trump or the ‘deep state’ forces. Is he capable of recognized the differentials in relative power.

There are no higher levels of analysis than the readings of what is to happen within the ‘deep state’ apparati. Trump maybe no more worthless or fails to work less than any of his predecessors but this old man river keeps rolling on. His grandiosity however, may leave a larger gap of failure as misplaced expectations quickly deflate, as with a busted hot air balloon.

This last week has shown us that Trump is largely a figurehead. It was a week where his National Security Adviser (NSA), Mike Flynn, was forced out under heavy fire from ‘deep state’ agents controlling the media – the ‘presstitutes’. The presstitutes in the mainstream cannot take any of these concerted actions unless supported by their bosses and these bosses have ‘deep state’ infrastructures throughout networks – CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, etc. So when we see the mainstream behaving this way we must see the hand of the ‘deep state’.

On occasions when the ‘deep state’ does not support the leaking of information you should expect them, the media, to focus on the leakers or whistle-blowers, not the contents of the leaks.

And based on our reading of the intent of the continuing invisible government, other Trump acolytes will be forcibly removed in the coming weeks. These will include Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway. What we are witnessing are essentially military manoeuvres. Chess pieces are being carefully re-positioned. They have little to do with Trump or Flynn or Bannon or Conway, per se. These are movements for war. War with Russia and Iran, but eventually China aimed at the stupendous prize – Asia.

And ‘deep state’ forces are re-asserting the battle field, at home and abroad, for foreign military confrontation. Enforcing the militaristic discourses in media. Demonizing Russia and other alleged foes. Replacing would-be ‘doves’ with genuinely reliable ‘hawks’. Replacing the impending secondary role for America in global affairs with an expansion of dominance, hegemony, empire.

And should Trump, himself, fail to continue to make the required concessions or properly recognize ‘the powers that-be’ he too will be impeached within a few years and may even end up in prison, or worse. The forces to which we refer have never been afraid of the presidency. Unlike Trump’s dreams, they see it as a figurehead standing in for the real power.

Another example of ‘deep state’ operations would be the role of Victoria Nulands as former assistant secretary of state under Hillary Clinton. Both she and her husband are original neocons of PNAC fame. Yet, there are joined at the hip with democrats to advance a war agenda. The neo-cons transcend party tribalism. Obedience to the ‘deep state’ is primary. And the ‘deep state’ wants endless war for resources.

Nulands is now a Ukrainian citizen and a senior member of the Ukrainian government. As an American citizen Nulands engaged in a conspiracy to bring down one Ukrainian government as preparation for the advance of NATO to Russia’s border and a wider hot war where nuclear weapons could be used.

All these are ‘deep state’ preparations for war on Russia but within the context of the larger objective – Asia. In collusion with George Soros, billions were expended in this massive conspiracy against Russia. These are the transcendent operations of the ‘deep state’. And Trump thinks that any president of the USA could stop this through a personal ‘friendship’ with Putin and Russia! What a pipe-dream!

The deep state and its military-industrial-security-intelligence-complex will not risk the possibility of a peace dividend. It will never risk the curtailment of its trillion-dollar budgets. It will not risk the end of US dollar supremacy. It will not risk the possibility of playing second fiddle to China and the massive New Silk Road projects planned. Not even the spectre of nuclear war will temper western greed for Asia’s resources.

This struggle for ‘eternal’ global supremacy is complex. So much so that ‘allies’ like the United Kingdom seem willing to forego their historical alliances for the promise to be ‘banker to the Chinese’. They’ll need trillions for their world-altering physical expansion in Central Asia. Successive British conservative governments have been convinced that the Chinese ‘horse’ is the right bet.

This was a week where talk about the normalization of relations with Russia took a back seat. Trump himself sent a twit suggesting that Russia should return Crimea to Ukraine. This represents a significant reversal to his previous position, and in short order, even within the context of his quixotic, chaotic behaviours, policy prescriptions, as mouthed. Writings would be a disadvantage to his fickle nature.

If there was any doubt that the ‘deep state’ forces were re-asserting themselves after the election, it was immediate removed as efforts were made to impose Robert Harward as Flynn’s replacement. Harward being a traditional pair of national security hands. Hands unlikely to depart from the well-developed thinking of the foreign policy establishment in Washington.

To reinforce this shift in perceived power, Harward demanded that, should he take the job, he would have had to be given control over those comprising the membership of the National Security Council (NSC). An obvious attempt at removing Bannon, a Trump acolyte, establishing a direct line to the President and re-empowering the traditional foreign policy establishment types, of which Harward himself derives.

While Trump was sent to the kiddie’s table – in Florida – to stroke his damaged ego, his Vice President Pence was jetted to Europe to reinforce traditional American warring alliances with a still expanded NATO. Nobody remembers anymore the promises made to Russia by Bush, number one, and endorsed by Clinton.

NATO’s main projects currently is to threaten Russia’s western perimeter. Promote the notion that Russia is aggressive in the Baltic states. Engage the Russians in the Black Sea. Limit its access to the Bosphorus Straits. Deny Russia use of its warm water ports in Syria; possibly Libya, Egypt and Lebanon as medium term objectives. This is a policy of total war!

The frightful Trump ‘revolution’ is being aborted by ‘deep state’ forces. Those forces are making it clear that war with Russia is their tactical and immediate objective, not the leap of ‘faith’ Trump represented to some. Trump seems to have forgotten the USA was built on war. And a target of such war cannot be befriended by the POTUS.

‘Deep state’ forces are saying the ‘pivot to Asia’ is their strategic objective, not better relations with Russia. These forces seem to believe that a ‘limited’ war with Russia will defang her; open-up China for a war to decide the future or the fortunes of Asia. Kissinger’s edit has long been ‘whoever controls Asia (Central Asia) will dominate the next century’. That still guides the ‘deep state’.

When Donald Trump burst onto the political scene we discussed all kinds of ideas in attempting to explain this perceived deviation from the mean. Those included the possibility of a fascist American regime. The truth is that the ‘deep state’ will not now sanction such a re-orientation. We are more likely to see an extension of neo-liberalism even as capitalism continues to fail, miserably. There will be no fixes supported by the ‘deep state’. Stealing other peoples’ resources was always the way the West escaped capitalism’s failures.

Less than 30 days into this Trump presidency we have arrived at firm determinations. There will be no departure from the recent governing traditions even if some unsavoury attempts are made to further pressurize populations, at home and abroad. Grand Chessboard priorities will continue to determine our destiny.

The signs have finally started to emerge that Trump is no more than a loud mouth dud. This impotence will leave us in the same relative position that we have always been, may be worse. More wars and rumours of wars. More resource wars at home and abroad. Social disruptions created by Trump will interfere with the world only on the margins but ‘deep state’ forces will continue to be as in control as they have long been.

150 responses to “It’s All About Asia, As Trump Becomes A Dud”


  1. Ammm did i step on Pachma toes well ac is not sorry . just hoping your toes hurt a lot.


  2. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/02/21/fact-sheet-executive-order-border-security-and-immigration-enforcement-improvements
    Fact Sheet: Executive Order: Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements
    Release Date: February 21, 2017

    Actions

    Enforcing the law. Under this executive order, with extremely limited exceptions, DHS will not exempt classes or categories of removal aliens from potential enforcement. All of those in violation of the immigration laws may be subject to enforcement proceedings, up to and including removal from the United States. The guidance makes clear, however, that ICE should prioritize several categories of removable aliens who have committed crimes, beginning with those convicted of a criminal offense.

    Establishing policies regarding the apprehension and detention of aliens. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) will release aliens from custody only under limited circumstances, such as when removing them from the country, when an alien obtains an order granting relief by statute, when it is determined that the alien is a U.S. citizen, legal permanent resident, refugee, or asylee, or that the alien holds another protected status, when an arriving alien has been found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture and the alien satisfactorily establishes his identity and that he is not a security or flight risk, or when otherwise required to do so by statute or order by a competent judicial or administrative authority.

    Hiring more CBP agents and officers. CBP will immediately begin the process of hiring 5,000 additional Border Patrol agents, as well as 500 Air & Marine agents and officers, while ensuring consistency in training and standards.

    Identifying and quantifying sources of aid to Mexico. The President has directed the heads of all executive departments to identify and quantify all sources of direct and indirect federal aid or assistance to the government of Mexico. DHS will identify all sources of aid for each of the last five fiscal years.

    Expansion of the 287(g) program in the border region. Section 287(g) of the INA authorizes written agreements with a state or political subdivision to authorize qualified officers or employees to perform the functions of an immigration officer. Empowering state and local law enforcement agencies to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration law is critical to an effective enforcement strategy, and CBP and ICE will work with interested and eligible jurisdictions.

    Commissioning a comprehensive study of border security. DHS will conduct a comprehensive study of the security of the southern border (air, land, and maritime) to identify vulnerabilities and provide recommendations to enhance border security. This will include all aspects of the current border security environment, including the availability of federal and state resources to develop and implement an effective border security strategy that will achieve complete operational control of the border.

    Constructing and funding a border wall. DHS will immediately identify and allocate all sources of available funding for the planning, design, construction, and maintenance of a wall, including the attendant lighting, technology (including sensors), as well as patrol and access roads, and develop requirements for total ownership cost of this project.

    Expanding expedited removal. The DHS Secretary has the authority to apply expedited removal provisions to aliens who have not been admitted or paroled into the United States, who are inadmissible, and who have been continuously physically present in the United States for the two-year period immediately prior to the determination of their inadmissibility, so that such aliens are immediately removed unless the alien is an unaccompanied minor, intends to apply for asylum or has a fear of persecution or torture in their home country, or claims to have lawful immigration status. To date, expedited removal has been exercised only for aliens encountered within 100 air miles of the border and 14 days of entry, and aliens who arrived in the United States by sea other than at a port of entry. The Department will publish in the Federal Register a new Notice Designating Aliens Subject to Expedited Removal Under Section 235(b)(1)(a)(iii) of the Immigration and Nationality Act that expands the category of aliens subject to expedited removal to the extent the DHS Secretary determines is appropriate, and CBP and ICE are directed to conform the use of expedited removal procedures to the designations made in this notice upon its publication.

    Returning aliens to contiguous countries. When aliens apprehended do not pose a risk of a subsequent illegal entry, returning them to the foreign contiguous territory from which they arrived, pending the outcome of removal proceedings, saves DHS detention and adjudication resources for other priority aliens. CBP and ICE personnel shall, to the extent lawful, appropriate and reasonably practicable, return such aliens to such territories pending their hearings.

    Enhancing Asylum Referrals and Credible Fear Determinations. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officers will conduct credible fear interviews in a manner that allows the interviewing officer to elicit all relevant information from the alien as is necessary to make a legally sufficient determination. USCIS will also increase the operational capacity of the Fraud Detection and National Security Directorate.
    Allocating resources and personnel to the southern border for detention of aliens and adjudication of claims. CBP and ICE will allocate available resources to expand detention capabilities and capacities at or near the border with Mexico to the greatest extent practicable. CBP will focus on short-term detention of 72 hours or less; ICE will focus on all other detention capabilities.

    Properly using parole authority. Parole into the United States will be used sparingly and only in cases where, after careful consideration of the circumstances, parole is needed because of demonstrated urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit. Notwithstanding other more general implementation guidance, and pending further review by the Secretary and further guidance from the Director of ICE, the ICE policy directive with respect to parole for certain arriving aliens found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture shall remain in full force and effect.

    Processing and treatment of unaccompanied alien minors encountered at the border. CBP, ICE, and USCIS will establish standardized review procedures to confirm that alien children who are initially determined to be unaccompanied alien children continue to fall within the statutory definition when being considered for the legal protections afforded to such children as they go through the removal process.

    Putting into place accountability measures to protect alien children from exploitation and prevent abuses of immigration laws. The smuggling or trafficking of alien children into the United States puts those children at grave risk of violence and sexual exploitation. CBP and ICE will ensure the proper enforcement of our immigration laws against those who facilitate such smuggling or trafficking.

    Prioritizing criminal prosecutions for immigration offenses committed at the border. To counter the ongoing threat to the security of the southern border, the directors of the Joint Task Forces-West, -East, and -Investigations, as well as the ICE-led Border Enforcement Security Task Forces (BESTs), are directed to plan and implement enhanced counter-network operations directed at disrupting transnational criminal organizations, focused on those involved in human smuggling.

    Public Reporting of Border Apprehensions Data. In order to promote transparency, CBP and ICE will develop a standardized method for public reporting of statistical data regarding aliens apprehended at or near the border for violating the immigration law.


  3. If you are a green card holder you are an ALIEN, so note that the new order does not exempt you asthe order says that “DHS will not exempt classes or categories of removal aliens from potential enforcement.”


  4. It appears Trump has walked back from his initial tweet to fight the first executive order in court.

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    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Pacha…the ACs are stuck on this blog, cant move, their world is crumbling right before their eyes,, nowhere to turn, it’s been days now every comment they posted gave off depressing over and undertones, they got yuuge and bigly problems…lol…and they probably blame me..lol

    Lawson…look, from the Boston Globe….I noticed in the Trinidad Express…the illiterate called Rowley, not a good sign for the Caribbean, period…one of his crazy notions grabbed hold of him again.

    After stealing half of Mexico, the illiterate got some nerve to deport these people from their own land.

    OPINION | STEPHEN KINZER
    Waking the Mexican sleeping giant

    By Stephen Kinzer
    GLOBE CORRESPONDENT FEBRUARY 17, 2017
    ONE REASON it’s so safe to be American is that we have no enemies nearby. To our east and west are nothing more dangerous than fish. Canada, to our north, has been a reliable friend — some would say our better half — since we gave up the idea of conquering it more than a century ago. Those facts are unlikely to change. During the coming years, neither sea creatures nor Canada will cause trouble for the United States. But Mexico may.

    With a barrage of insults and threats, President Trump has begun the process of turning Mexico against us. This could bring the United States something it has never had: an unfriendly country on our border. In his rhetoric, Trump has unleashed the potent force of Mexican nationalism. One result of this rising defiance may be the election next year of the first truly anti-Yanqui president in Mexican history. That would threaten our dominance of the Caribbean Basin and profoundly alter our geopolitical position.

    We don’t pay much attention to Mexico, but it is one of the most important countries in the world to us. Our economies are integrated, with annual trade exceeding half a trillion dollars. Our cultural ties are deep. Mexico gives the United States vital help in areas ranging from drug control to immigration — turning back 150,000 Central Americans trying to reach the United States in the last year alone. Most important, Mexico’s friendship helps keep us safe because it means we have no strategic threat on our southern border. All of this may now begin to change.

    Mexicans have plenty of reasons to resent the United States. To begin with, there’s the little matter of the war in which we seized half of Mexico in the 1840s. For most of the time since then, we have treated Mexicans as subjects to be disciplined. Unlike us, however, they vividly remember aggressions we have forgotten, like our bombardment and occupation of Veracruz in 1914 and our failed military campaign to capture the rebel hero Pancho Villa soon afterward. President Woodrow Wilson declared that American intervention would continue until the Mexicans learned to “elect good men.”

    Mexicans heeded that warning. For generations, guided by a corrupt political autocracy, they have chosen leaders we consider “good men.” That means, above all, leaders who accept the subservience that comes with living near a great power. The current president, Enrique Peña Nieto, has dutifully followed this pattern. Suddenly, however, pro-American politics are anathema in Mexico. By describing Mexicans as rapists and drug dealers, insisting that they pay for a wall at their border, and threatening to send American troops to fight “bad hombres down there,” Trump has humiliated a proud nation. Outrage is so great that President Peña Nieto felt obliged to cancel a planned trip to Washington. Mexicans see him as a friend of the United States. His approval rating now stands at 12 percent.

    Make the peso great again — for US workers’ sake
    Mexico’s currency isn’t collapsing because of Donald Trump. It’s been weakening for years, with serious consequences for American industry.
    The perils of elected strongmen

    Mexicans have long been frustrated at American policies that they believe intensify violence and inequality in their country. Neither this frustration nor the history of US intervention, however, has led them to adopt anti-American foreign policies. The political elite has been largely successful in tamping down Mexican nationalism, which is by definition anti-American. Trump is now reviving it.

    The first beneficiary may be Mexico’s leftist firebrand, Andrés Manuel López Obrador. He lost the last two presidential elections — most recently by a narrow margin possibly provided by fraud — but suddenly he has risen from the political ashes and claimed the mantle of Mexican patriotism. In campaign speeches, he rails at Trump for treating Mexicans “like dirt,” vows to end his country’s “subordination” to the United States, and brings crowds to ecstasy by shouting, “Everything depends on strengthening Mexico so we can confront aggression from abroad!” Imagine a version of the late President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela, the most outspoken anti-US leader to emerge from Latin America in this century, on our southern border.

    The rising generation of Mexicans is educated, globalized, and as likely to consider itself North American as Latin American. Suddenly, thanks to Trump, it is rediscovering its anti-gringo identity. This could mean that for the first time in history, Mexico will pull away from the United States. An anti-American president, backed by a population increasingly angry at the United States, will weaken our security. During World War I, Mexico refused an offer to ally with our overseas enemies. Modern nationalist leaders may not be so deferential. They might even decide that since the United States so eagerly pushes its military power to the borders of unfriendly countries, Mexico should play the same game. Inviting a Chinese ship to refuel at the Manzanillo naval base, or hosting a Russian military delegation, would show Americans how it feels to live with provocative saber-rattling next door. It might also set off a serious US-Mexico confrontation.

    Many foreign policy challenges awaited Trump when he took office. Mexico was not among them. Trump chose to create a crisis where none existed. He has set off a reaction that may bring hostile power to our border for the first time in modern history. If that happens, it will be remembered as one of his worst and most avoidable blunders.

    Stephen Kinzer is a senior fellow at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University. Follow him on Twitter @stephenkinzer.

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    They stole half if Mexico….that will never go away.

    “Mexicans have plenty of reasons to resent the United States. To begin with, there’s the little matter of the war in which we seized half of Mexico in the 1840s. For most of the time since then, we have treated Mexicans as subjects to be disciplined. Unlike us, however, they vividly remember aggressions we have forgotten, like our bombardment and occupation of Veracruz in 1914 and our failed military campaign to capture the rebel hero Pancho Villa soon afterward. President Woodrow Wilson declared that American intervention would continue until the Mexicans learned to “elect good men.”

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    Trump will make himself dizzy from all that walking back….his time is limited.

    They hardly ever use expedited removal….but they are now.

    “Expanding expedited removal. The DHS Secretary has the authority to apply expedited removal provisions to aliens who have not been admitted or paroled into the United States, who are inadmissible, and who have been continuously physically present in the United States for the two-year period immediately prior to the determination of their inadmissibility, so that such aliens are immediately removed unless the alien is an unaccompanied minor, intends to apply for asylum or has a fear of persecution or torture in their home country, or claims to have lawful immigration status.”

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    Anyone can be detained and deported, I know of cases where eligible citizens, one parent US citizens or both, who were detained, deported and had to work their way back to the US…long process…8 or 10 years.


  9. Twenty four comments out of fifty eight
    Well Well ac got to hand it to you .You are one dirty bird.hee heee hee


  10. David why fight the first order his man isnt in the supreme court yet and a lower court ruling would stand because of 4/4 split.


  11. The point lawson you missed by a long mile is that Trump exposed his poor judgement when he tweeted soon after the 9th Circuit Court handed it’s decision. To borrow your reasoning he should have waited until he assembled his AG team instead of relying on a draft from amateur corner.

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    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac February 21, 2017 at 2:06 PM
    “Twenty four comments out of fifty eight
    Well Well ac got to hand it to you .You are one dirty bird.hee heee hee”

    Ac, it seems you are braying happily like a real jack of a donkey.

    If only you could match her in the other corner in your defence of the MoF against the discarded governor accused of doctoring the numbers and cooking the books.

    If you should you would be making amends for the obvious cowardly absence of your mates in the form of Fractured BLP, Bajan fuhlife waiting, passing thru and the other yard-fowls and reality deniers including that astute clown Alvin Cummins.

    Heard it said that even the young yard-bird Maureen the handmaiden of CBC political propaganda is distancing herself from what is unfolding and is ‘harshly’ recommending that your administration swallow its pride and make a visit to the IMF doctor.

    She is one fulsomely forlorn birdie that will no longer be served on the Moon Town menu of delicacies.

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-immigration-rules-barack-obama-deportation-undocumented-workers-executive-orders-visa-a7592076.html

    Dont mind Lawson…all intelligence agencies are working on that fraud….just a matter of time before his take down.

    Lol….they all left the ACs to take the heat Miller alone, poor things can now only count posts….not a word on other links, too ashamed, too afraid…too lonely.

    ACs…someone just sent me this…is that a relative of yours..

    Haha…sounds like Worrell v. Sinckler…lol

    “COCO TIFFANY CARTIER VS APPLON ITHAMAR ISHMAEL PARRIS — BARBADOS
    FEBRUARY 21, 2017 LEAVE A COMMENT
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    UPDATE: Coco Tiffany Cartier has given Naked Departure the full scoop of the SHOCKING events leading up to her being stabbed and almost murdered!

    Since she has lung problems and cannot talk for long, she is telling her story in intervals. Watch out for the full story coming on Naked Departure soon!!!!!”


  14. Not at all David the constitution is quit clear, these un elected judges misinterpreted it with a home town decision trump correctly transferred any possible attacks to them while he waits for his man to be put through or decided to retool the order. Remember the 9th rainbow circuit is overturned 80% of the time. and will be broken up during this admin. Everyone bitching about trump and sweden Lol everything is fine over there talk about fake news


  15. If what you are saying is correct why is it being discussed that the new executive order will reflect changes noted in the 9th Circuit Court decision?


  16. so it will go through as long as the supreme court is 4/4 their ruling will stand no-matter how wrong. Sometimes it is better to get half a pie while you are waiting for the baker to make another

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-hunters-blamed-immigrants-after-accidentally-shooting-each-other-a7591471.html

    Lawson…dtop telling lies and misleading the blog…ya are not a lawyer….because you want something to be true, there is no reason to lie about it.

    Look….the natural bion liars.

    Texas hunters who accidentally shot each other blamed undocumented immigrants, police reveal

    Investigators think paranoia about ‘illegals’ led the group to mistakenly open fire on each other

    Charlotte England @charlottengland an hour ago33 comment

    After the alleged attack, a family friend setup a GoFundMe page stating that Mr Daughtery (pictured above with his fiancé) and his group were involved in a shoot-out with some illegal immigrants that were trying to steal his RV Go Fund Me
    A hunting guide and his client accidentally shot each other and then blamed it on undocumented migrants, police in the US have said.

    Officers attended the scene at a remote south Texas ranch, near to the Mexico border, in early January, finding the two men bleeding from gunshot wounds. A second guide was involved in the incident, but escaped without injury.

    The casualties, guide Walker Daughtery, 26, and client Edwin Roberts, 59, and the other guide, Michael Bryant, told police they suspected the shooters were undocumented immigrants they had seen on the ranch earlier in their trip.

    READ MORE

    Their story was shared thousands of times online after Texas Commissioner of Agriculture and Donald Trump ally Sid Miller wrote about it on Facebook.

    But police and a grand jury have now concluded the men were lying about the incident, and actually shot each other.

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    http://ow.ly/4xVq309e22h

    As things now stand the illiterate can only dance around the constitution to impose new immigration restrictions. …he has not yet filed an appeal to the supreme court and even if he does. …and have a man, not a judge on the bench…the other judges who follow the constitution will cream him or her.

    “By Abigail Hauslohner and Janell Ross January 31

    The Trump administration is considering a plan to weed out would-be immigrants who are likely to require public assistance, as well as to deport — when possible — immigrants already living in the United States who depend on taxpayer help, according to a draft executive order obtained by The Washington Post.

    A second draft order under consideration calls for a substantial shake-up in the system through which the United States administers immigrant and nonimmigrant visas, with the aim of tightly controlling who enters the country and who can enter the workforce, and reducing the social services burden on U.S. taxpayers.

    The drafts are circulating among administration officials, and it is unclear whether President Trump has decided to move forward with them or when he might sign them if he does decide to put them in place. The White House would not confirm or deny the authenticity of the orders, and White House officials did not respond to requests for comment about the drafts Monday and Tuesday.”


  19. Is there a Fifth columnist among the Caribbean leaders? Found it strange that Trump, would have singled out Trinidad and Tobago, by making a call to its Prime Minister , immediately after the Caricom Heads of Government meeting in Guyana.
    It would have been more prudent if Trump had called the Caricom Chairman ,while the CHOG was in session.
    United we stand, divided we fall.

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    Lawson…this is from BBC News 3 minutes ago….the illiterate cannot alter anything without supreme court permission, he can dance around the constitution. …and that is exactly what he is doing.

    “Trump administration widens net for immigrant deportation

    3 minutes ago
    From the section US & Canada

    A US Border Patrol agent looks on at people along the US-Mexican border.Image copyrightREUTERS
    Image caption

    The memos expand the number of undocumented immigrants subjected to deportation
    The Trump administration has issued tough guidelines to widen the net for deporting illegal immigrants from the US, and speed up their removal.

    Undocumented immigrants arrested for traffic violations or shop-lifting will be targeted along with those convicted of more serious crimes.

    The memos do not alter US immigration laws, but take a much tougher approach towards enforcing existing measures.

    There are an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the US.

    Five questions ahead of new US travel ban
    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said on Tuesday the new guidelines would not usher in mass deportations, but were designed to empower agents to enforce laws already on the books.
    “The president wanted to take the shackles off individuals in these agencies,” Mr Spicer said.
    “The message from this White House and the Department of Homeland Security is that those people who are in this country, who pose a threat to our safety, or who have committed a crime, will be the first to go.”


  21. Painting pictures with broad bush strokes..
    but the PNAC vulcans are namely GOP war hawks like Rice Cheney etc


  22. The impeachment of Trump – Mossad Agent – 07:20 minutes in


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    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    It’s embarrassing how easily the slave mentality can be triggered in weak minded black men, it’s shameful and a disgrace. ..that’s why I told the idiots ACs to stop using the term “alternative facts”…just because they heard the retarded Conway using it.

    …..dummies, now all the fools are talking about fake news…and have no clue what they are speaking about.


  24. Mr Blogmaster what the blogger is saying is factual inaccurate. It would not be fair to call it a lie because he simply has not really checked the background of his remarks and repeats statements made by others (like the ‘my victory is the largest electoral college tally since Reagan’) without applying his own level of rigueur and intelligent analysis.

    Perspective: The Supreme Court accepts for review ONLY about 0.01% of cases across the US appellate system… ONE in every 100!

    Then of that 7,000+ cases sent to the Supremes every year about 70 odd are ACTUALLY accepted for review.

    So in fact and reality the the comment that the 9th Circuit get overturned 80% of the time means that literally they may be eight of 10 ACTUAL cases HEARD (in any year) from that circuit that are reversed.

    BUT… 10,000 cases are filed in that circuit most years so over 9,990 never reach SCOTUS. This circuit is the largest and hears more cases –often three or five times more – than other circuits.

    Take a kernel of truth and make it your own bushel of misdirection…despite the overwhelming realities that paint a vastly different picture.

    Sweet, cause it works for them wonderfully.


  25. @Colonel Buggy February 21, 2017 at 5:07 PM “Is there a Fifth columnist among the Caribbean leaders? Found it strange that Trump, would have singled out Trinidad and Tobago, by making a call to its Prime Minister , immediately after the Caricom Heads of Government meeting in Guyana. It would have been more prudent if Trump had called the Caricom Chairman ,while the CHOG was in session.”

    trump did not call Rowley becayse he is in love wit him. Very likely he called him because this is making the rounds, including on the front page of today’s new York Times

    “Trying to staunch Trinidad’s flow of young recruits to ISIS
    http://www.postnewsreport.com/trying-to-stanch-trinidads-flow-of-young-recruits-to-isis/
    President Trump spoke by telephone over the weekend with Prime Minister Keith Rowley of Trinidad and Tobago about terrorism and other security challenges, including foreign fighters, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, a White House spokeswoman, said.

    Trinidad has a history of Islamist extremism — a radical Muslim group was responsible for a failed coup in 1990 that lasted six days, and in 2012 a Trinidadian man was sentenced to life in prison for his role in a plot to blow up Kennedy International Airport. Muslims make up only about 6 percent of the population, and the combatants often come from the margins of society, some of them on the run from criminal charges.

    They saw few opportunities in an oil-rich nation whose economy has declined with the price of petroleum, experts say. Some were gang members who either converted or were radicalized in prison, while others have been swayed by local imams who studied in the Middle East, according to Muslim leaders and American officials.

    The young men found solace in radical Islamist websites and social media.

    And in the call to jihad.

    In contrast to the laws of many countries, it is not illegal in Trinidad to join the so-called caliphate, though the government wants to change that. One hundred to 130 people have made the trip to Syria from Trinidad, which has a population of 1.3 million, according to a former United States ambassador, John L. Estrada, and Trinidad’s minister of national security, Edmund Dillon.

    By comparison, about 250 citizens of the United States, a country with 240 times the population, had joined the extremists or attempted to travel to Syria by late 2015, according to a House Homeland Security Committee report.

    Per capita, Trinidad has the greatest number of foreign fighters from the Western Hemisphere who have joined the Islamic State, said Mr. Estrada, who stepped down after the inauguration of President Trump last month.

    “Trinidadians do very well with ISIL,” Mr. Estrada said. “They are high up in the ranks, they are very respected and they are English-speaking. ISIL have used them for propaganda to spread their message through the Caribbean.”

    Much of the information about the identities of those who went abroad comes from American intelligence sources, although local imams and Islamic leaders all said they knew several people, including women, who had left.

    “I know whole families that went,” said Imtiaz Mohammed, president of the Islamic Missionaries Guild, which does charity work in Trinidad and the Middle East.

    Juan S. Gonzalez, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, said the bulk of Islamic State fighters from Latin America originated in Trinidad and Tobago. The numbers underscore a risk of lone-wolf attacks in the region, he added.

    “As the United States continues to corner ISIS and defeat them, a lot of these guys aren’t going to feel they have safe quarters,” Mr. Gonzalez said. “Is the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago, the United States, prepared for these guys to return back to their countries? This is a real vulnerability.”

    He noted that people in the Caribbean enjoyed visa-free travel throughout the islands, which makes it fairly easy to travel to the Bahamas, and from there make a “short jump” to South Florida.

    The United States, which encouraged Trinidad to tighten its laws, has hosted meetings with Muslim leaders at the embassy in Port of Spain, and paid for several to attend anti-extremism workshops in the United States.

    Mr. Sabur, the young radical from Enterprise, is one of a handful of Trinidadians known to have died in Syria. Others include Shawn Parson, who appeared in an Islamic State recruiting video. He was targeted by an F.B.I. program that, with the cooperation of the military, sought to eliminate the group’s social media figures, often with drone strikes.

    Last summer, Shane Crawford, also known as Abu Sa’d al-Trinidadi, perhaps Trinidad’s best-known Islamic State recruit, was prominently featured in an article in the group’s magazine, Dabiq, in which he called for attacks on Western embassies.

    Mr. Crawford said he had been influenced by Islamic lectures and a Trinidadian Muslim leader, Ashmead Choate. Mr. Choate “attained martyrdom” in Ramadi, Iraq, the article said.

    The genesis of today’s rising militancy, Mr. Crawford added in the article, can be traced to the failed 1990 coup, when a group of radical Muslims took legislators hostage in a siege of Parliament. When it was over, two dozen people were dead.

    Yasin Abu Bakr, 76, who led that uprising and has since been released from prison, said the government had created a climate where young Muslims did not feel safe or welcome in the military or civil service. “This is total discrimination and isolation against young Muslims in Trinidad,” he said in an interview.

    Trinidad’s attorney general, Faris Al-Rawi, said that after the coup, wearing Muslim garb “took on a certain appeal.”

    “A lot of people who were not genuinely Muslim or otherwise took on the persona to carry on their thuggery,” he added.

    Mr. Al-Rawi said Mr. Crawford was believed to have died in Syria. His mother, Joan Crawford, said she had heard rumors that he had been badly wounded.

    Ms. Crawford, 62, said that her son had been falsely accused of plotting to kill the Trinidadian prime minister, and that this had diminished his professional prospects, even though he ran a fish business and had experience in plumbing.

    “Once you are branded a terrorist in your own country, what could you do?” said Ms. Crawford, a former Spiritual Baptist who converted to Islam after her son did. “I did cry, because I knew I would never see him again. I did not get to say goodbye.”

    Efforts to combat the flow of young Muslims to overseas battlefields have been complicated by the ambivalence toward, and sometimes support for, the jihadi cause among some imams and the recruits’ parents. In an interview that began and ended with a prayer, Mr. Sabur said he had welcomed his son’s death as a martyr: “I felt elated. Speaking about it now, I am over-elated.”

    The Trinidadian government last week introduced a series of amendments that would criminalize membership in the Islamic State and other extremist organizations. People who traveled to certain regions would be presumed to be doing so for terrorism, and the burden to prove otherwise would be on them, Mr. Al-Rawi said.

    Mr. Mohammed, of the Islamic Missionaries Guild, criticized the proposed legislation, saying groups like his that make trips to the Middle East are often engaged in charity work and could be unfairly singled out.

    “You can’t just go to a court and have a judge tell you that you are guilty with no evidence, just an assumption,” he said.

    Mr. Mohammed has publicly denounced the Islamic State, but noted that his own United States visa and commercial pilot’s license had been revoked after a terrorism suspect passed through his Islamic center.

    A senior intelligence official in Trinidad who was not authorized to speak publicly said he worried that the proposed legislation would make people who would have left for Syria plan attacks at home instead.

    He said about 15 or 20 of the Islamic State recruits spent two weeks before their trips at a mosque in Rio Claro, about 50 miles southeast of Port of Spain. There, they attended an orientation, the official said.

    Umar Abdullah, an Islamic activist, said he had been among those who encouraged the would-be fighters.

    Despite having made thinly veiled threats to Americans in the past, which led a cruise ship on its way to Trinidad to turn back, Mr. Abdullah has since denounced extremism, and now says Muslims must work with the United States to “change the narrative.” It would be “stupid” to try to attack the United States Embassy, he said.

    “At one point in time I was a strong believer in that, and I still believe it to some extent,” Mr. Abdullah said. “But to do something like that would put the Muslim community in harm’s way. We would not be able to stand the fallout of that type of action.”

    The imam in Rio Claro, Nazim Mohammed, denied running an Islamic State training program, and insisted that he operated an elementary school and a weekly food program for the poor. But he acknowledged that two of his children and five of his grandchildren were in Syria, and that the adults were believed to be involved with the Islamic State.

    “Killing and murdering is not Islamic,” Nazim Mohammed, 75, said in an interview. “Our program is to help people. You know how many people have come here for help?”

    He insisted that his children did not notify him of their plans, and he shrugged off the group’s influence.

    “Who is ISIS?” he said. “ISIS is just a few people.”


  26. 21 FEBRUARY 2017 • 4:25PM
    ”An Austrian court on Tuesday approved a US request to extradite a Ukrainian billionaire with ties to an associate of Donald Trump to face trial on bribery charges, in a move that could test the White House’s relationship with Russia.”

    ”Immediately after the decision Dmytro Firtash was detained on a European arrest warrant related to a separate request by Spain, however, throwing the likelihood of extradition into doubt.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/austrian-court-approves-extradition-ukrainian-tycoon-dmytro/

    Big trouble ahead for Trump, Putin as one of their associates was approved for extradition to the US from Austria, possibly through Spain.

    As Biden would say, this is a f**king big deal. All hell will break loose, now! If the Spanish do as expected.

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    Of course trump called Rowley over the muslim issue. Trinidad has the most organized muslim population. ..that would be a red flag for the illiterate…first question from any smart aide…how organized are the muslims in the Caribbean.

    http://ow.ly/vhus309eWs5

    “Muslims in the Caribbean

    Written and photographed by Larry Luxner

    Praise Be to Allah – Laylat al-Qadr [the Night of Power],” proclaims the roadside banner. It bellies in the wind along the dusty, two-lane highway leading north from Guyana’s Timehri International Airport.

    A special religious program, “The Voice of Islam,” is playing on the ancient taxi’s radio, and at the nearby Ruimveldt Jamaat Madrasa, two dozen children have just settled down for their afternoon Arabic class. It is the 27th day of Ramadan in Guyana, and at first glance, the music, the mosques and the Muslims all seem strangely out of place in this densely forested, English-speaking nation on the northern shoulder of South America.

    But, as local religious leader al-Hajj Naseer Ahmad Khan points out, Islam has long played a prominent role in Guyanese history. “Today, Muslims are integrated into every profession,” he says. “I think we’ve got a good future here.”

    Khan, president of the Guyana-based Islamic Missionaries Guild International, is one of nearly 400,000 Muslims scattered across the nations of the Caribbean. Mostly East Indian in origin, they live in relative prosperity on at least a dozen Caribbean islands, including Barbados, Grenada, Dominica, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Jamaica.

    The region’s heaviest Muslim concentrations, however, are in Suriname, with an estimated 100,000 believers, in Trinidad and Tobago, also home to 100,000 Muslims, and in Guyana, with an estimated Muslim population of 120,000.

    Travel agents like to promote Trinidad as a tropical Caribbean paradise, an ideal vacation spot throbbing with calypso, carnival and steel bands.

    But Trinidad is also the focus of Muslim life in the Caribbean. Last August, Saudi Arabia’s Prince Muhammad ibn Faysal visited to address the 24th international convention of the Islamic Missionaries Guild. The oil-rich island, smaller than Brunei or the state of Delaware, boasts the western hemisphere’s highest concentration of mosques – 85 in all – a Muslim speaker of the house in veteran politician Nizam Mohammed, and even a Muslim president, Noor Mohammed Hassanali.

    Last May, both men were featured speakers at Trinidad’s first-ever official public celebration of ‘Id al-Fitr, a joyous event marking the end of the fasting of the month of Ramadan. Nearly 4,000 Muslims turned out for the gathering, which for the first time was held at the national Jean Pierre Cultural Complex in Port-of-Spain.

    “The Muslim community in Trinidad, despite being small, is very organized,” said businessman Imtiaz Ali, who attended special ‘Id prayers at the Jinnah Memorial Mosque, one of the country’s largest.

    Ali, who from 1974 to 1978 studied at the Islamic University in Medina, Saudi Arabia, today manages the Muslim Credit Union Co-operative Society in Curepe, a small village near Port-of-Spain. In keeping with the laws of Islam, the credit union charges the equivalent of $1 a month in dues, while offering its 1,500 members interest-free loans (See Aramco World , May-June 1987).

    In Trinidad, there presently exist two generations of Muslims: one which has become set in tradition, doing things because they were born into it. This group of people doesn’t find Islam very dynamic,” said Ali, who is 32. “And then you have a younger generation of Muslims who do.”

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    ACs….ya should see me perform on the Government between a Rock and a Hard Place thread, you will be proud…lol, hahaha.

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    Apparently in total there are over 400,000 muslims in the Caribbean, but the ones that are well organized, in the illiterate’s mind, would be well worth watching. …remember Abu Bakr.

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    “He noted that people in the Caribbean enjoyed visa-free travel throughout the islands, which makes it fairly easy to travel to the Bahamas, and from there make a “short jump” to South Florida.”

    If this meant to plant any ideas in the small island governments minds….maybe it’s time small islands start a visa program for everyone from large countries, the people attacking Ameriicans in the US are homegrown citizens/terroists born in tge USA and more often than not are white.

    …. just last week, 2 white criminals were planting bombs to explode across the US, one planted 10 devices targeting Target stores and he was a parolee wearing an ankle monitor….that news never filtered through to Caribbean media.

    The US has the most dangerous criminals on earth and most of them are white and travel freely, who is protecting the islands and other places from their terrorist activities.”

    http://ow.ly/TUeQ309f1wg

    Florida Man Charged With Trying to Blow Up Target Stores to Tank Company’s Stock
    by SAFIA SAMEE ALI

    “A Florida man’s alleged plot to set off homemade explosives in several East Coast Target stores — part of what investigators said was a bizarre attempt to tank the company’s stock — was foiled after someone he asked for help turned him in, prosecutors said Thursday.

    Mark Charles Barnett, 48, of Ocala, was charged with “possession of a firearm (destructive device) affecting commerce by a previously convicted felon” after he offered an unidentified person $10,000 to put at least 10 explosives — disguised as food items — on the shelves of Target stores in New York, Florida and Virginia, according to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Ocala.”

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    ….just last week, 2 white criminals were planting bombs to explode across the US, one attempted to plant 10 devices targeting Target stores and he was a parolee wearing an ankle monitor….that news never filtered through to Caribbean media.


  32. NOTHING NEW: ‘Fake’ & Weaponized News Has Long Haunted Our War-Weary World

    Mark Anderson
    21st Century Wire

    Not only is America suffering under the maliciously misleading fake news peddled by today’s “mainstream” media; America and the world also have gravely suffered, at least since the mid-19th Century, under an orthodox media that was — and remains — a weaponized menace to peace and social concord. There is hardly a more unsettling example of an early war-mongering media figure than famed editor Horace Greeley.

    Stepping back for a moment, it’s notable that the liberal-internationalist New York Times — unlike liberal-left street protestors who typically march against U.S. military intervention in foreign lands — has long interpreted liberalism quite differently on the geopolitical level. Our esteemed “newspaper of record” spanning three centuries, has frequently used its pages to call for, justify or not seriously challenge claims made by governments as the pretext for highly questionable military interventions. This has led to the current reality of perpetual, unwinnable “conflicts” that are prosecuted without even the pretense of Congress officially declaring war as the Constitution requires.

    And pesky facts — such as the reality that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein never possessed the kind or quantity of “weapons of mass destruction” to excuse the U.S.-led coalition’s March 2003 “shock and awe” intervention in Iraq — have never been allowed to obstruct the Times’ support for Iraq and subsequent wars. The role of the Times, along with its staff reporter Judith Miller, in presenting the false case for that war is well documented. In addition to this, a tertiary story that Saddam Hussein was hosting al Qaeda terrorists and he have been involved in the 9/11 attacks of 2001, was concocted by members of the Bush Administration and then injected into both the US and British mainstream media.

    All that was needed was somebody to hate in the true Orwellian tradition, so the military-industrial-banking-intelligence-media complex gave Americans Iraq as the phony target of their revenge.

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/02/21/nothing-new-fake-weaponized-news-has-long-haunted-our-war-weary-world/

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    http://ow.ly/TUV2309f3vT

    We know this and are quite happy to sit and watch it unfold.

    “Trump’s immigration plan could cost billions, experts say

    BY DENIS SLATTERY
    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Wednesday, February 22, 2017, 5:00 AM

    Experts from both sides of the aisle aren’t quite sure how the U.S. will find the money for the increased enforcement needed under Trump’s immigration plan. (BRYAN COX/AP)

    The sweeping immigration enforcement outlined by the Trump administration could cost billions of dollars to execute, cripple the American economy, and possibly present a humanitarian crisis the likes of which the country has never seen, experts say.

    Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said in a pair of memos describing the plan on Tuesday that the U.S. “no longer will exempt classes or categories of removable aliens from potential enforcement.”

    The memos, combined with President Trump’s executive actions on immigration, call for the hiring of thousands of additional federal agents, enlisting local law enforcement to assist in apprehension, and beefing up the number of immigration judges.

    Experts from both sides of the aisle aren’t quite sure where the money for the increased enforcement will come from and believe that the economic fallout from the deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants could be staggering.”


  34. Dribbler the cases from the 9th circuit that go to the supreme court are reversed 80% of the time if you dont like the math you cannot accept any poling, insurance tables or betting odds. It is not hard to see how they lean and how they will vote from sampling of cases and the reversal rate of them by the supreme court So I suggest just because the supreme court doesnt take all there rulings up may not mean they are correct.
    When predictions are made on a small sample of results as in exit poles. core sampling, actuarial tables they can be very accurate if you want to say the 80% that are over turned is not indicative of the 9th circuit you are wrong that is why they will be broken up


  35. WW not lies alternative facts, but a newspaper owned by russians (after putin says quit praising trump), with a black editor calls into question trumps facts I am not surprised

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    Lawson…you are stuck on this “broken up”….ya think think that the 3rd arm of government, the judicial arm of government is a card game…

    …..you cannot get a case to the supreme court without first going through the federal district circuit courts….the illiterate does not have the power to break up any of them.

    The illiterate still has not appealed and even if he did, the supreme court can toss it on the grounds that the district court did not err in its judgement….comprende…they do not have to listen to or rehash the crap..it can be tossed out.

    The supreme court is the court of last resort. …they do not stand alone but have to judge based on the law and previous judgements from the district courts.

    That is why the illiterate is dancing around the constitution. ..he got no choice.

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    “A newspaoer owned by Russia”…says it all Lawson.

    “A black editor”….where a few words can trigger the slave mentality lying just beneath the surface in millions of mentally weak black people….dont make me laugh….lol


  38. WW there is a bill in congress right now to break up the 9th district, it will happen and trump will sign it, he cant appeal yet because there are only 8 on bench 4 liberals. Get with it the supreme court has become as political as it gets …why do you think the republicans held up garland??????


  39. muff trumps mufti la penne refuses to wear head gear is just one violent outbreak from being leader of france


  40. 62 million racists voted for Trump.

    Now it is game on time to rumble.

    I’ve seen the writing on the wall
    Babylon kingdom is bound to fall

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    http://ow.ly/byqA309fjIe

    Lawson…that is nothing new….the 9th Circuit will be split to create a 12th Circuit, it’s been done before to create the 9th Circuit from the 8th Circuit….it’s too big, has become top heavy so it will be split in half.., that does not mean any change in constitutional law, it’s just splitting responsibilities.

    They are trying to make the circuit courts more efficient…fast tracking judge’s decisions.

    “Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona introduced legislation last month to carve six states out of the San Francisco-based court circuit and create a brand new 12th Circuit.

    They argue that the 9th is too big, too liberal and too slow resolving cases. If they succeed, only California, Oregon, Hawaii and two island districts would remain in the 9th’s judicial fiefdom.

    Right now, Flake said, the circuit is far too sprawling.

    “It represents 20 percent of the population — and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction. It’s just too big,” Flake told Fox News on Wednesday. “We have a bedrock principle of swift justice and if you live in Arizona or anywhere in the 9th Circuit, you just don’t have it.”

    Flake says it typically takes the court 15 months to hand down a decision.”

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    Lawson…mufti Le Pen….is right up your alley…lol

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/foreign-spouse-income-limit-latest-supreme-court-rules-lawful-bar-uk-entry-couples-british-children-a7592826.html

    This has been a growing problem for years, it has now been settled and they obviously dont give a damn about it either.

    “Foreign spouse income limit: Supreme Court rules financial barrier lawful, barring entry to thousands of couples

    But rules and instructions behind the threshold are not lawful when it comes to the welfare of children, the judges say

    Jon Sharman 2 hours ago

    London’s supreme court Getty Images
    The Supreme Court has said the Government’s £18,600 income threshold that bars UK workers’ foreign spouses is lawful, but judges admitted it will continue to cause “significant hardship” for thousands of couples.

    The policy, brought in when Theresa May was Home Secretary, has been blamed for keeping families apart because British citizens living in the UK do not earn enough money to bring their non-European Economic Area partners to the country. It holds even if their partner’s earnings would tip them over the limit.

    Britons have previously told The Independent they have had to move abroad to be with their families because of the policy.”


  44. Lawson once again you are manipulating the facts to prove a a half-truth.

    I completely agree that if 7.9 cases out of the ten taken are reversed then there is a credible issue of differing judicial judgement between SCOTUS and the judges of the 9th circuit.

    But for you to leap on a band-wagon about breaking up and to cite statistical details to suggest that court is way off kilter is ill-founded and poor analysis.

    It’s like the cop rushing to a call of man with gun; speeding into a park in broad day-light to see one male person ALONE for yards around with said gun. And in less than – what was it, faster than a Bolt victory – draws on and kills that male.

    No threat to anyone really but himself; as cop could have taken safe refuge and cover behind his car to determine situation. But ‘off the seat’ he jumps to wild conclusions….proven totally FALSE.

    There you trend also good sir.

    The circuit does trend liberal. So what. The Texas courts trend conservative. Neither situations means the law is wrong…

    So again PERSPECTIVE: The 9th is LARGE. Covers a large expanse of states/cities and has lots of judges (close to 30 as memory serves). It hears 10,000 cases per year.

    Many other circuits hear less than 3,000 cases per year (some as little as 1, 600) and have a total of 9 or 15 judges (again from memory, but the point being significantly less).

    PERSPECTIVE: In the average circuit ‘en banc’ really means all judges will hear an appeal. At the 9th they have a designation that a cadre of judges (13 maybe) are the ‘en banc’ panel. Otherwise it would be IMPOSSIBLE to operate and manage.

    So ‘break-up’ is all about the management and process mainly. Will the Republicans aim to ‘gerrymander’ the process to filter liberal judges against conservatives? OF COURSE.

    But they do that with voting rights legislation all across the south or where ever they can now so what’s your point !!!!!

    So let’s argue a point rationally and honestly and leave this level of total BS falsehoody at the WH, fah real…or are you so totally steeped in the dye that you can’t operate any other way!


  45. David, I am working on getting my posts to less than three sentences…but I tend to be long-winded. So work with me here. Just remove the censorship algorithm on me for now!

    Yes, yes I get all the tech speak but do others here have the same issue.


  46. There are still reports coming out of the United States,from reliable sources , that a number of Barbadians are indeed detained by ICE under Trump’s deportation order.
    We know that Bajans, even at the highest level, excluding Stuart and Maxine,cannot hold their tongues.

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