BU shares the Jeff Cumberbatch Barbados Advocate column – Senior Lecturer in law at the University of the West Indies since 1983, a Columnist with the Barbados Advocate since 2000 and BU commenter – see full bio.

MUSINGS: The guns of August
8/23/2015

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Barbadians might be forgiven for thinking that our island in recent weeks had been transformed into some latter day Caribbean Dodge City or Tombstone Territory, given the alarming incidence of crimes involving the use of firearms. It is disconcerting enough when the offence involves mere unlawful possession, although if one judge from the newspaper photograph of one such weapon, preparations for an internecine civil war or a serious public assault might already be substantially underway.

This may be scary enough; however, when there eventuates the scenario of an innocent bystander’s life becoming the collateral damage of some unfriendly fire, the situation becomes even more terrifying.

Despite the populist diagnoses of this spate of gun violence, ranging from scarcely veiled partisan discourses on the degree of the contribution of the state of the economy and, by extension, depending on the speaker’s political allegiance, the indirect responsibility or non-responsibility of the governing administration for the current state of affairs, to the so-termed “slap-on-the-wrist” approach of the magistracy and judiciary to sentencing offenders that, as popular wisdom would have it, contributes immeasurably to all criminality in Barbados. There have been more broad hints than one in the public domain during the last week that some aspects of Sharia law may not be that bad after all.

Last week’s revelation from the acting Commissioner of Police, Mr Tyrone Griffith, of the police suspicion (he might have put it higher than that) that negligently or criminally inadequate oversight by local customs officers of incoming cargo is a major contributor to the presence of illegal firearms in this country was always going to set the cat among the pigeons in a jurisdiction where such sweeping generalisations are more than likely to raise the hackles and much otherwise of all the members of the class of individuals at whom fingers are pointed.

As to be expected, there is a report in another section of the press this morning (Saturday) that customs officers are “hopping mad” and their representatives “outraged” and befuddled at what has been reasonably interpreted as a generalised calumny on all customs officers.

Of course, I do not believe that this defamation was intended by the acting Commissioner, but it would have satisfied the requirements for actionability in the courts had he been any more particular in his assertions. Indeed, as I propose to tell the students in the law of Torts II lectures in a few weeks, when a wide class of individuals is impugned by a statement, no member of that class may sue successfully for defamation unless he or she is able to establish that there is something in the statement that would lead the ordinary hearer or reader reasonably to consider that the claimant was being referred to.

While this is the strict legal position, it is at least doubtful whether the customs officers would be detracted by such a technical consideration.

However, given that it would have been both defamatory and impolitic for the acting Commissioner to be any more specific in this context, there is necessarily now an impasse between the two entities to be judged in the court of public opinion. There the issues to be determined are whether the acting Commissioner was right to have made the police suspicion public without there having been at least the arrest and charge of one officer, and whether the customs officers are not being overly sensitive, given the allure of an argument that a proliferation of weapons in the island must include at least a number that were imported through the lawful ports of entry.

The workers’ representatives are nothing if not adamant that the Commissioner’s statements were more than unfortunate. While the more representative of these organisations, the National Union of Public Workers [NUPW], has termed them as “inflammatory, without basis” and serving only “to tarnish the reputations and integrity of all customs officers”, Mr Caswell Franklyn, the leader of the Unity Workers’ Union, argues that the police force was “more responsible for interdicting weapons than Customs given its superior facilities and training…”

What may be equally regrettable is the appearance of a public spat between these two governmental entities that are placed in the forefront of the interception of contraband into the jurisdiction. At a time when there are already publicly expressed fears that the interdiction of drugs, despite reports of periodic substantial seizures, is barely effective if at all in stemming the available local supply, any fissure in the scheme of co-operation between these agencies could scarcely be in the public interest.

Perhaps it may be that guns have become the new controlled narcotic substance and thus their imported presence here, like that of the latter, is inevitable.

For the average Barbadian, this maybe a future too terrible to contemplate. A combination of astute political leadership, the committed co-operation of the responsible authorities and judicious parenting would serve us all in good stead to alleviate the problem.

153 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – The Guns of August”


  1. Acting Commissioner Griffith aka Starsky did in fact served in the CID, and did so with Wade Gibbons for many years. I knew the guy personally, he was a no nonsense type of guy who took his job quite serious.


  2. Back in the day Griffith was feared and revered by the criminal element in Barbados because this man moved with the true persona of a Bajan bad boy.

  3. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    This immigration officer’s only “crime” is that he is married to a Guyanese. This Government generally and Immigration specifically have become extremely xenophobic. It has reached the stage where two officers were removed from the Immigration Department because their mothers were born in St. Lucia. Mind you, they were born here. A few officers grumbled and that was the end of the matter.

    Sent from my iPad

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  4. @Caswell

    That is hard to believe when one consider the former first lady and now deputy speaker of our highest court is a St. Lucian.

  5. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    She is the exception that proves the rule.

    Sent from my iPad

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  6. The acting CoP is some one I know very well and is a very no nonsense person, ever was ever will be. He would tell it like it is, even if some big-ups are involved. All I would say is, whatever is said by him, he is willing to back up with facts. Whether the his boss is willing to accept it is a different matter. If the lid on this matter is blown off and the truth be told, the CoP will have to fear for his life. I know the man, he will die with his boots on, we needed him not now but years ago.


  7. Thanks Artaxerxes.
    I think ‘Exley” was his name. Exley and Tyrone G. joined the police force at the same time, and as you stated, they were both on the fast track.

    There may be some truth in the “trumped up” charges story. On such a small island, the top dogs know who will be their rival/replacement and will take actions to safeguard their own interests.


  8. “He offered the view that it was a trumped up charge by former CoP Orville Durant of me hands tied fame. ”

    And why David as blogmaster have you not challenged and/or sought to get to the bottom that serious ‘trumped up charge’ view offered by Mr Wade Gibbons?

    And was Mr Durant not disciplined for ‘trumping up’ charges against a fellow officer?

    And did Mr Griffith not seek legal redress with respect to those ‘trumped up’ charges?


  9. Repentance and turning to Jesus for Salvation, does NOT prevent God’s Judgement from unfolding progressively in this this End-Time era. God is always dealing with the individual’s heart, family units, and by extension the Nation as a whole.

    To the extent that many in our Caribbean region, and Barbados in particular, will truly REPENT, and Trust in Jesus as Saviour and Lord, to that extent will the Grace, Mercy, and Love of the Lord Jesus Christ, Save, provide, protect and COMFORT those who are in a personal obedient relationship with HIM!

    Judgement MUST come to pass, and it IS* already falling in a number of different way, but, SALVATION of the LOST souls IS* the primary focus of ‘The Great Commission’ given by Jesus!

    Woe to the obstinate who refuse to listen to God

    Isa. 30:8 Go now, write it on a tablet for them, inscribe it on a scroll, that for the days to come it may be an everlasting witness. 9 These are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the LORD’s instruction. 10 They say to the seers, “See no more visions!” and to the prophets, “Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. 11 Leave this way, get off this path, and stop confronting us with the Holy One of Israel!”

    12 Therefore, this is what the Holy One of Israel says: “Because you have rejected this message, relied on oppression and depended on deceit, 13 this sin will become for you like a high wall, cracked and bulging, that collapses suddenly, in an instant. 14 It will break in pieces like pottery, shattered so mercilessly that among its pieces not a fragment will be found for taking coals from a hearth or scooping water out of a cistern.”

    15 This is what the Sovereign LORD, the Holy One of Israel, says: “In REPENTANCE and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it. 16 You said, No, we will flee on horses.' Therefore you will flee! You said,We will ride off on swift horses.’ Therefore your pursuers will be swift! 17 A thousand will flee at the threat of one; at the threat of five you will all flee away, till you are left like a flagstaff on a mountaintop, like a banner on a hill.” 18 Yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; he rises to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!

    19 O people of Zion, who live in Jerusalem, you will weep no more. How gracious he will be when you cry for help! As soon as he hears, he will answer you. 20 Although the Lord gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them. 21 Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.” 22 Then you will defile your idols overlaid with silver and your images covered with gold; you will throw them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, “Away with you!”


  10. Dale Ford just pinned the AG on the question of the paying of light bills by drug people and a deteriorating economic landscape. Does Brathwaite believe the public is stupid?


  11. Is the public to accept the COP or AG do not know if the surveillance cameras at the Port are not working?


  12. Zoe

    I don’t fully understand what you’re trying to established with your statement above brother?

    Because what we’re witnessing in Barbados and elsewhere in the world today in terms of the universal moral decadence is the manifestion of God’s predetermined plan, and no amount of human intervention will alter its course.

    The Bible tells us quite clearly in the New Testament that: ” In the last days perilous times shall come when men will be lovers of themselves more than God. And here we are brother!

    Have you not notice that the young people are no longer encourage to go to church? Do you not see that the leaders of the Christian Church are compromising their religious convictions in an effort to comfort to the relativity of the modern life?

    Are you not cognizant of the fact that one ought to be politically correct when he or she invoke the religious sentiment these days? So save your breath brother because we are already in the Last Days, and your efforts to summons the will of the unbeliever is to no avail, I am afraid to say.


  13. Dompey August 23, 2015 at 4:50 PM #

    “Acting Commissioner Griffith aka Starsky did in fact served in the CID…..”

    You are incorrect, Dompey. “Starsky” was the late Sargeant Daniel Jemmott.


  14. David August 23, 2015 at 8:43 PM #

    Is the public to accept the COP or AG do not know if the surveillance cameras at the Port are not working?

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    So what if they know , why should they tell

    Isn,t it the object of surveillance to be that of covert action,then what sense would it make in tipping(off) those who might have nefarious plans . keeping them guessing is the best deterrent,


  15. Dompey,

    You are indeed incorrect. Tyrone “Ty P” Griffith was never referred to as Starsky. You do not know the person of whom you speak. Others of us do.


  16. Dale would never try to pin the AG. They are buddies. She just asked him the question in passing. It was not followed up sufficiently.


  17. @Donna

    The question was posed, he avoided it and she followed and he dodged again. It is a government owned station and there is so much following she could have done. Obviously the AG was caught out and the public is left to judge for themselves.


  18. This interview was just a friendly chat. I must admit I fell asleep midway and will have to watch the rebroadcast.


  19. She asked the questions, he didn’t answer, not her fault.


  20. I repeat – Dale and the AG are buddies. There are ways of asking the question again without being too blatant. Dale knows those ways. She is smart. But true, some of us did pick up on his dithering.


  21. To repeat, she asked the question twice and the AG refused. She is employed by CBC and he is a minister of government. But you fell asleep anyway. You may have the last word.


  22. The problem of rising crime is not a problem that either the AG or the C of P can solve alone. Andrew Pilgrim and Arthur Holder in today’s Nation and others during last week are aware of what the causes are.

    There are some people who delight in being a criminal. There are others who would never under any circumstances be a criminal. There are others who choose according to their circumstances. Circumstances have bred a number of criminals in this society. That is why society has been able to ignore it so far. We have not felt the atmosphere in certain neighbourhoods. Talk to the people in these places and you would hear some stories. They are not all bad.

    A while ago a young man whose father had built a relatively successful business knocked down an old man in a busy rural area. The young man was known for driving his flashy vehicle recklessly, a regular showoff. The boys on the block grabbed the spoilt brat and put some licks in him. The spoilt brats equally stupid father turned up later with his licensed gun and asked which of them had the gall to touch his son. Five unlicensed guns soon were pointed back at him and he slunk away tail between his legs. These guys were really angry that the old man had been hurt. They are complex beings just like us with conflicting forces within them. A few months later I heard coming from this same block a discussion on how to work the system and reduce jail time. It was discussed in the same way many of us would discuss how to get our children into a university. For them it was just a fact of life. It struck me that it is indeed a given for these guys. There was no bravado. There was no pride in it. It was just a way to survive.

    Just come down from your high horses and see life from a different perspective. When the boys on the block see white collar thieves and drug king pins escaping unscathed because the law’s hands are tied can you expect them to have respect for our justice system? For them it is a jungle out there and they are going down fighting.


  23. David,

    Thanks!


  24. @ Donna

    Your 7:16 am post was not only a very good contribution, but it is also very true.

    I grew up in the type of society you so accurately described and know too well about what you mentioned.

  25. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Donna

    It is evident from your submissions here that you are on the side of the fence closest to the Gaza strip.

    As a church woman, not said in any derogatory fashion, it is a heartening thing to hear you getting up in this mess with the “real expletive, expletive deal”.

    Because you are a christian employing (not that i did not say practicing) your faith I have removed the curse words.

    It is really a pleasant thing to come here and find one (i) a Christian (ii) a female who is able to wrap on things in the real Barbados.

    You knew who Starsky was (unlike that fellow who claims that he used to peep through the stable fences at Officers in Station Hill and knows them well) and have a finger on the real deal of what the pulse is In the actual streets of Gaza.

    I express a filial love for you in that context.

    At my church de ole man often calls many of the rest of us pretenders “fake christians” because while we will go at eagle hall and tek a loud speaker and exhort the Name of Our Living God on a Saturday morning when every body passing and seeing us in our nice gowns, NOT ONE OF OUR BLACK expletives will find ourselves doing this in Nelson Street or Bush Hill

    “Go ye out into the hedges and highways” DOES NOT REFER TO Senator Durant, He under whose watch the Boy King David Thompson, he who is implicated in a $3M scam, was not supposed to die. Well we all know which GOD that Senator is serving!!

    Youth knows falsity in whatever package you bring it.

    Lil Caesar Lashley can only pompasette on site tours to Queens Park Theatre but it is real, real men like Rodney Grant of Pinelands Creative Workshop or Ty King of Bayvillle who can walk into any Gaza and have a pow down with the Boys on the Block.

    I realise that you are keeping it real and bow to you as I bow to my beauty Sexy Sultry Suzanne SSS.

    What we need is real men and women to demand this change or we die…

  26. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    But Donna, when has your statement “When the boys on the block see white collar thieves and drug king pins escaping unscathed .. For them it is a jungle out there and they are going down fighting.” not been true in our generation, particularly.

    Barbados is really no different from US as it relates to pop culture and behaviour so if we like at what that pop culture has shown us in movies like ‘New Jack City’, ‘Boys in the Hood’ to name but two and this most recent (which I have not seen) ‘NWA Straight Outta Compton’ that message has been crystal clear.

    Of course the white collar and political misbehaviour sets a clear path for dissonance and the boys on the block use their inherent intelligence to gain wealth.

    All top criminals have to be smart; that is a given!

    But at the end of the day Donna, there are also any number of movies and other examples which show how that intelligence can be used in legitimate ways BUT that requires hard work, some luck and a lot of extra study and determination.

    So don’t let us gloss over the fact that many of these fellows on the block are definitely taking the easy way out to money and success.


  27. RUSSIAN MEDIA: U.S. ‘ECONOMIC APOCALYPSE’ IN SEPTEMBER
    Alignment of ‘ominous events’ prompts frenzy abroad
    Published: 14 hours ago

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    Friday’s American stock market provided further evidence of instability in the nation’s economy, and even as financiers fear a possible fiscal disaster in September, there has been little coverage among U.S. media.

    But the state-run media of Russia is warning of what it calls America’s “economic apocalypse.”

    The Russian news service Sputnik, an agency launched by Russia’s state-owned Rossiya Segodnya in 2014 to “target global audiences with its non-mainstream take on world events,” predicts doom for the American economy next month.

    In a recent article, Sputnik cites several economists warning of catastrophe.

    It continues: “Most of the experts agree that all the optimistic data like record earnings on Wall Street and a surging dollar is just disguising fundamental cracks, and the collapse of historic proportions will happen within few months, starting in the U.S.

    “No wonder such forecasts, and there are dozens, from professional economists leave U.S. and the world dizzy and shivering in fear and helplessness, just what one would probably feel if the actual apocalypse was coming.”

    What do YOU think? Do you expect a U.S. economic collapse anytime soon? Sound off now in the WND poll!

    September 2015 has become the focal point of warnings and speculation because of a strange confluence of events.

    These include:

    The seven-year, biblical Shemitah cycle ends Sept. 13

    The European Organization for Nuclear Research begins a controversial experiment

    Pope Francis arrives at the White House on Sept. 23 and will make an unprecedented address to a joint session of Congress the next day

    The fourth and last “blood moon” in the tetrad occurs on Sept. 28, on the biblical Feast of Tabernacles

    With temporal, spiritual and economic events lining up for next month, some pastors are urging Christians to be prepared, warning they cannot rely on most American media outlets to report the truth.

    Carl Gallups, a pastor, former law-enforcement officer and author of the upcoming book “Be Thou Prepared,” observes: “With the onslaught of predicted ominous events scheduled to occur in or around September of this year, as well as the actual scheduled events possessing possible prophetic overtones, a lot of people certainly are tuned in to the end of this year with a laser focus. Sadly, it sometimes seems the Russian media is more reliable and eclectic in its reporting than is the American media. Given the fact that the United States media often seems loathe to report on anything biblical or Christian in nature, unless it is excoriating or marginalizing them, this should not surprise us.”

    Like the reporting you see here? Sign up for free news alerts from WND.com, America’s independent news network.

    Gallups says the Russian media’s focus on September may reflect a political and even religious agenda. After all, he notes, “Russia and Putin have made a big deal lately about the infusion of ‘Christian influence’ in Putin’s ‘new’ Russian culture.

    “As to the reliability of Russia’s speculation that something catastrophic is going to happen in America this fall, and particularly this September, I suppose their conjectures are [as] good as any. I doubt that they have any special prophetic insight into these matters. Unless they have some sort of covert plans to attempt to be a part of a ‘self-fulfilling prophecy.’ I certainly would not put that past them at all.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/russian-media-u-s-economic-apocalypse-in-september/#O6vXkdXATev2tlPD.99


  28. And I repeat what purpose does it serve to give out surveillance information


  29. BLOOD MOONS TETRAD IS WORLD’S ‘3RD WARNING’
    1st linked to Israel becoming nation, 2nd to recapture of Jerusalem’
    Published: 2 days ago

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    Pastor Mark Biltz, discoverer of the blood-moons phenomenon and the author of “Blood Moons: Decoding the Imminent Heavenly Signs,” says Christians today are being given signs from the heavens.

    In Biltz’s opinion, the current sequence of blood moons “is a sign for today’s Christians as judgment always begins in the house of God.”

    “I believe the current blood moons also signal the end of an era,” he said.

    Biltz notes there’s something else unique about this tetrad: its convergence with biblical holy days.

    The April 15 event in 2014, for example, happened during Passover. On Oct. 8, 2014, the blood moon occurred during the Feast of Tabernacles, or Sukkot. Another of the blood moon’s occurred during Passover on April 4, 2015. The last will happen on Sept. 28, 2015, another Feast of the Tabernacles.

    A blood-moon tetrad also occurred in 1493, while the Jews were being expelled from Spain. Another tetrad occurred in 1949, soon after the state of Israel was founded. The last tetrad happened in 1967, during the Six-Day War between Arabs and Israelis.

    Biltz discovered what has become the “blood moon phenomenon” in 2007, researching the correlation between when blood moons fell on feast days and key historical world events. He found the divine link between prophecy, heavenly signs, historical events and when they intersect.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/blood-moons-tetrad-is-worlds-3rd-warning/#XKCyZWUiTJcWeYz2.99


  30. De Ingrunt Word

    You call swimming out to sea in the dead of night and hauling in drugs, skulking about selling the proceeds, keeping one eye out for the policeman and the other eye out for a rival gang member the EASY way out? Boy that is real hard work to me.

    These young men would have seen their mothers slave for a pittance and struggle all their lives to live. I don’t really believe the issue is the work. I think the issue is the pay.


  31. We can face it or we can turn our backs but these young men are unskilled and abandoned by society. They are not going to take it like our fore parents did. Heck my son does not take from me a quarter of the crap I took from my mother. If I tried to pull that he would head to the neighbour’s house and ask for the number for the Child Care Board.

    Times have changed. Expectations have changed. A while back a black man would not have expected to walk through Belleville unchallenged. We knew our place. Now we want a place change. Now we rail about gated communities and expect to be heard. We want change and so do these young men.

    The young men are without a doubt taking the wrong route to protest. But without a Martin Luther King equivalent to guide these uneducated misfits what else could we expect?


  32. Donna August 24, 2015 at 8:40 AM #

    “You call swimming out to sea in the dead of night and hauling in drugs, skulking about selling the proceeds, keeping one eye out for the policeman and the other eye out for a rival gang member the EASY way out? Boy that is real hard work to me.”

    Lol, Donna, the money may be “sweet” but the life of a drug pusher ain’t easy. These guys always have to be on the alert, some of them do not stay away home for long periods of time.

    I remember a friend of mine invited me to his bar, which is located downstairs of his home. When I arrived there I asked the girl behind the counter for him. She told me to wait while she called him. A few seconds after I saw 6 cruel looking young men coming down the stairway and they proceeded to strategically position themselves at different areas of the bar.

    My friend peeped down and on realizing it was me, he relaxed himself and signaled to the men who relaxed themselves as well. Four went up stairs while two remained.

    Although the money is good, I would not want to live that type of life.


  33. Pieces,

    Thank you. I’m too smart to refuse love. And I does feel like cussing too! Sometimes I do cuss and my son does have to pull me up. But I just cannot stand foolishness! Listening to lessons and sermons for thirty years, nodding your head and not reaching out in love is foolishness. If the church would follow its mission the young people would respect us. I know young people. Hypocrisy is a big, big problem for them. And unlike the older passive generations they will not respect the hypocrite.

    I have through drama and poetry been trying to light some sort of bonfire under my pew warmers well-dressed behinds for the longest time. Sadly the spell only lasts for the duration of the performance.

    I am so frustrated I can hardly open my mouth to sing a hymn with them.


  34. King Solomon had everything and in the end concluded –

    “…all is vanity”.

    What matters is how we help others.


  35. I believe the purpose of surveillance is to be secretive so the enemy would not be privy to confidential information. In much respect to the AG and COP they are duty bound to protect such information for the best interest of national security


  36. @ Donna
    What the hell is wrong with you?
    You are throwing pearls to swine….. wisdom to dompeys …

    Our society has been warped by a stupid education system which promoted sissies with small balls – who excel at being quiet and compliant; while victimising REAL REAL men – with proper balls, who are disruptive, creative, daring, brave and are natural leaders.
    The result is that every shiite is upside-down…. such that jackasses with nuff degrees holding positions of authority, while the REAL REAL men are on the damn blocks running things….and operating ZRs.

    How else can the society end up ..but as one big brass bowl block ..with ZR culture?

    There is a reason why neither the Government, Courts, Police, NOR MTW can control the ZRs…. Sissies CANNOT control MEN… (same reason Peter W don’t come bout here…)

    Same reason why the block culture will continue to dominate – despite the fact that we spend 1/2 BILLION dollars per year on formal education …while the block fellows probably spend 1/2 million per year on Reggae on the damn hill….

    The bible did predict that in the last days the ‘first shall be last, and the last shall be first…’ (in other words, that every shiite will be upsided-down)

    …so wunna BETTER listen to what Zoe is saying about September….
    That fellow is just back from some serious biblical research and KNOWS of what he speak….

  37. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    Donna let me use your remarks to sound off on a few issues and den leff de place.

    You noted, ‘Now we want a place change’. That ‘we’ of course cannot be referring to black men who ‘have seen their mothers slave for a pittance’ but who now have the ability to overcharge to astronomical levels for standard legal work on a bank loan or other matter. Surely not.

    When we speak of the ‘gated communities’ we of course recognize that the homeowners there in many of them are all of the same hue as these disenfranchised youth. We want to run as far as possible from them. And even outside the gated areas we lock ourselves behind wrought iron bars.

    This youth dynamic is definitely screwed-up but when I was a young-man 30 years ago this behaviour of dredlocks, making babies to validate one’s manhood and other anti-social actions was inane then and it is the same now.

    It was inane (drop outs blaming society) too when my parents were young folks unable to walk through Belleville and working hard to forge a way forward.

    Delinquents were and will also be a part of society. And so too unemployment or unemployable men and women. There are more delinquents and more of the unemployable variety today because of the prevalence of the drug culture with its wealth.

    I completely agree that gov’t, other social partners and each of us have to work really hard to solve this serious problem.

    Many of them are indifferent, callous and too belligerent to accept the trappings of standard work rules and regulations and certainly therefore not the ‘pay’.

    Apparently they expect that immediately on getting a job there is enough money to buy nice car, have some place to live, have more than enough to go to every shin-dig and then also pay for the baby food and health care; and all that money without some finely honed skill or uni certification.

    We all wish life was so simple.

    But then again they can achieve that from selling drugs so why even attempt to find legitimate low-paying work or even try to improve their skills; despite the risks of the drug culture,as noted by Artax. The real world is still too much hard work!

    The sooner we understand that ‘live fast and live well’ (like Tupac, for example) is the mantra in the hearts of these lads and lasses the sooner we recognize how depressing and practically unsolvable is the situation.


  38. It is good to see crime news occupying front and center news spot this morning. BU warned many years ago there will be a social cost as a result of the lack of leadership exhibited.

    Are we there yet? Yes we are!


  39. In the meanwhile who cares about signs and wonders .Houston we have a probl em that needs immediacy . one of finding the criminal network of inflitratorsvand putting them behind bars


  40. De Ingrunt Word,

    Indeed I have personal experience of a young man and his cousin, whose mantra was obviously as you say. I taught them both at a senior school where they were obviously out of place, They had brains. I was young so they tried to make my life a living hell. I was protected by a former bad boy turned good boy. He couldn’t understand mathematical equations but he had sense enough to change his ways. Today he is a garbage collector. Of the other two, one is in jail for murder and the other died in his thirties on the highway. Before he died his attorney received a call from him one night. He was in jail. The attorney being too tired asked me to drive him to the station. There was that bad boy shaking in his shoes and afraid of the police. These two guys had options. They were just bad to the bone.

    I had no sympathy for them.

    But there is another kind with whom I have made myself familiar who are just plain lost and hopeless. Their belligerence comes from anger at a society which devalues them. A hypocritical society that looks down its nose at them. These guys many of whom have low IQs require our help. They need to find their talents. Now, we can try my method or we can try yours. Oops! Yours is already being done.

    And how’s that working out for us?

    There will always be strong individuals like my garbage man who though lacking in book sense have the common sense to choose the right path. Hooray for them! Good news for us.

    There will always be those weaker individuals lacking in common sense and choosing the wrong path. Alas for us!

    The blame game has reaped nothing. Just open your mind and extend your hand. Or keep playing the same shot in the dark expecting better results.

    We cannot eradicate violent crime but I’d bet my last dollar we could reduce it to a more comfortable level.

    I am not a bleeding heart just a person with an open mind. I know what I’m talking about because I watch and listen.


  41. Oh, and most of us want it all quickly just like the block boys. That is why the banks now own many of us. I’m trying to tell you that we’re all of us screwed up. They are just more screwed up than we are.

  42. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Bush Tea,

    who dis Donna is?

    You feel dat de blogmaster would give a fellow she real real IP?

    I surprise dat AC ent start to cuss she yet !!

    Man she even mek de savage beast calm down….(I did not say Donkey)

    Musick has Charms to sooth a savage Breast,
    To soften Rocks, or bend a knotted Oak.
    I’ve read, that things inanimate have mov’d,
    And, as with living Souls, have been inform’d,

    Man dem is few people dat de ole man does click pun whenever he see dem post but with each successive posting I like whu i see man but I only gots a few weeks more to admire causing de Madam back pun ** and I ent gine be able to come heah and get on like I mek meself and cuss Alvin en ting.

    I does got an admission to mek doah, I does click pun de donkey

    Yes siree I does click dey causing when de ole man down en ting, wunna done know dat octogenarians will sometimes get down, I does clik pun he fuh comic relief, He and de next one who name I ent gine call casing dem is gine to cuss me


  43. How many amongst this list of B U intelligent would risk life and limb to be a member of any police force. I also notice that those who are critical are those whose careers where white collar and outside tapping on a keyboard never had any desire to be on the front line where the heavy lifting begins. I challenge any one of you to take one day out of your daily air condition room and sit among the wayward youth and put your words into action.
    Would make for interesting debate along with having significant data separating fact from fiction


  44. Those comments are not only broad generalizations, but reckless as well. You do know the identities of individual contributors, and as such it is very presumptuous of you to assume that any contributor was or is presently a member of the Royal Barbados Police force.

    And if you feel so passionate about the situation, and since the force is experiencing difficulty in recruiting males, perhaps you should view it as your civic duty (if you have not done it as yet) to encourage your sons and male relatives to “ risk life and limb to be a member of any police force.”

    Or will you prefer your sons to pursue white collar careers and sit in air conditioned rooms on a daily basis?


  45. @de Ingrunt Word August 24, 2015 at 9:44 AM “they expect that immediately on getting a job there is enough money to buy nice car, have some place to live, have more than enough to go to every shin-dig and then also pay for the baby food and health care”

    Working full time from the time I was 18. But didn’t own the place where I live until I was 55. Because you know what? Between 18 and 55 life happens.

    Life= further education working full time and studying part time because your family is too poor to act as a guarantor for a student’s loan, children (because you can’t wait until you are 55 to have children), sick parents (because there is no way you can prevent your parents from becoming old and sick), and a 25 year mortgage. And no car. I had to make a decision either my children will get a higher education or I can have an air conditioned chariot. So I take the bus, and will continue to take the bus. Because I know now that I will never be able to afford a car. I’ve made a decision not to support the drug dealers nor the car dealers.

    Maybe we should tell the youth the truth.


  46. @Donna August 24, 2015 at 8:40 AM “I think the issue is the pay.”

    At the bottom of the wage scale male labourers work for $100 a day and female labourers for about $75 a day, not a lot of money but a man and woman pulling together and bringing home $800 per week after paying national insurance can still live decently and can still raise a couple of children. They may not be able to afford a car or holidays in Miami, but they can live. The first time I ever got on a plane I was an adult working for a couple of years.

    $200 per week for rent (or less if the damn government would open up all of the affordable houses they have built)
    $100 for utilities
    $300 per week for food (for 4 people)
    $80 for busfares


  47. And therein lies part of the problem. A man and a woman pulling together is not in our culture. We usually pull each other to pieces because of misunderstandings. Our approach to this problem must be multi-dimensional. I can’t cover all the bases.


  48. Simple Simon,

    And certainly – we must tell the young people the truth. All of it.

  49. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    Actually Donna, my way is not being tried in the least. Left to me, along with all the skills training and vocational programs in place I would have mandated a China-type child restriction policy for all young-men/women on the block. And that person is defined as unemployed, without legal means of income, dependent on the state or otherwise unable to maintain and sustain him/herself. My political career would have been very short lived.

    You are mistaking a harsh look at the facts, where as I suggested the disenfranchised has been with us going back generations with an unkind heart. My heart is warm I simply have no time for the indolence and indifference of a drug infused youth brigade who refuse to go along with society’s ethos of hard work and sacrifice.

    I have gotten tired of program after program being under utilized; of girls being hoodwinked into motherhood and unable to properly nurture their kids to help them overcome the IQ or ADHD issues.

    I am tired on the continuous cycle of boys and girls on the block producing more delinquent boys and girls on the block.

    It really gets tiring particularly when the block-heads are so comfortable in their space.

    We cannot reduce far less eradicate violent crime until we clean up this drug scourge which is enticing and harbouring them.

    There are many avenues along which the boys on the block can go to seek a legally fruitful life. It may not be glamorous and surely in these harsh economic conditions there will be major struggle but paths are there and also many of us are willing to assist in simple, practical ways.

    I applaud your efforts but from my perch I perceive that more of the block boys are like your “young man and his cousin” than there are like your determined and legally minded “refuse collector”.

    We cannot build enough jail cells for our nieces or cousins or other relatives who are caught up with this crap so we surely need to save as many of them with words and deeds; but gain there are no easy answers to resolve their indolence and ease of life from the drugs culture.

    This is a very hard fight.


  50. Artaxerxes August 24, 2015 at 1:13 PM #

    Those comments are not only broad generalizations, but reckless as well. You do know the identities of individual contributors, and as such it is very presumptuous of you to assume that any contributor was or is presently a member of the Royal Barbados Police force.

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    where was that presumption made in my post of ac August 24, 2015 at 12:53 PM #

    as a matter of fact to the contray not only was your assumption off base , however i did send out a challenge to all those Bu commentators to step up to the front line and put their words in action by diligently taking some time out of their comfortable life and be “field workers” in the hostile environment where the youth maintain or sustain their livelihood .
    There is a prevalence among most bajans to act out through criticism but when the call for action becomes necessary they run and hide or expect some one else to hold;the reigns.
    A classic example is Bush shit who criticizes and stare gleefully everyone tom dick and Harry who has step up to the front line but as yet to step forward to put his words in action
    Case and point his clapping of his trap with an ongoing tirade about what is wrong while sitting in the background hollering bellyaching and pleading for his chief advisor Caswell to face the firing squad,How pathetic.

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