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Staying afloat in the global economy
Staying afloat in the global economy

The comments of some of those ‘experts’ positioned to know leaves one to wonder just how much they really know and understand about our history and the economy. It leaves one to wonder if their comments were designed to support the government.

According to the Central Bank Governor “the economy is well placed to meet the economic challenges the country faces’” [Advocate 7/18/2013] This in an economy that produces only sugar and imports everything, is falling apart and going down the drain. Citizens are said to enjoy a good quality of life and a high standard of living of living based on the investments made by past generations. This is true for some but not for the Black Majority, especially those inclined to live beyond their means.

The Fiscal Deficit increased in January, later Job loss was set at 21%. Today our National Debt is about $72bn and rising, stores are closing; unemployment is up in the air and will increase as kids leave school. Black personal indebtedness is at its highest-level historically. Over 1000 homes including chattel houses are listed for sale. Why are people selling homes especially chattel houses? I suppose to pay off debt. It is unlikely that most of the chattel owners have become sufficiently prosperous to afford a better home.

The country’s social network partnership is said to be the envy of countries worldwide. Really? Do provide the proof. We are told the country has an active and knowledgeable media and economic issues are openly discussed and debated. True, but all too often the discussions and debates reveal how little we know and understand about our history and economics.

The framework for economic policy is said to be robust. Exactly what does he mean by robust. All we have is some land, sea, sun and people. And we continue to miss-educate the kids. We seldom grow anything apart from Sugar and import everything which increases the cost of living and will continue to do so.

The real value of national savings is said to be protected and there is a stable currency for investment protected by adequate foreign exchange reserves. Really? Sugar and tourism are the main sources of foreign currency generation. The fact that we import everything and produce nothing apart from sugar limits both the national savings and the foreign exchange generation. Soon the USA dollar will cost Four Bajan dollars. Consider the implications. Population increase and health decline will increase social welfare cost. The growth and eating of food products like yams, eddoes, potatoes, breadfruit etc will significantly reduce the health cost bill.

The aging population will increase state pension and social welfare cost. This has negative implications for the national savings. Maybe we will have to borrow and or increase taxation in order to increase the value of the national savings.


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97 responses to “Can The Economy Really Meet Demands”


  1. Here is a BU alert. Get ready for a doosy of a Budget.

  2. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    We already know it will start with lies and more lies and truth will not be a part of it , Only who will go home and who’s pay will be cut.
    Let hope the VAT dont go up on the people, Vote better next time , The 2 crook parties will have a party inside the people pockets.
    None of the Ministers will loose any weight ,Sink man


  3. Will be interesting to see how Bajans react to the rumored super tax on Bajan middle class of $100,000 and greater.


  4. I am not pleased about the proposed tax
    I think it is unfair
    Would not want to say anymore on this at the moment

    We are overtaxed as it is and now this.

    I think that after you have paid your fair share of taxes that you should be taxed at a lesser rate over the $100, 000 because you are only one person and you would have made the contribution of one person. We should not be punished for making money. It does not make sense to me.

    The best thing to do is undercharge or under work and receive payment other than monetary

    You will be surprised at the amount of people who make over 100, 000 per year. People you would not believe and they are not necessarily rich as in rich.
    THE TAX IS AN UNFAIR TAX
    I say so because I know its coming.

  5. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Deeds:
    “Let hope the VAT dont go up on the people, Vote better next time , The 2 crook parties will have a party inside the people pockets.”

    The rate of VAT might not increase but as an “agreed” compromise with the IDB and IMF officials the scope of the VAT net might be widened to include some fishes currently escaping as zero-rated items like rents (not VAT on the commissions as is the case).

    Don’t be surprised if the reverse tax credits are also abandoned as the poor man’s contribution to the fire pot of sacrifices.


  6. Miller
    Word hitting the street is that virtually the entire cabinet has opposed the proposed measures to be included in the Budget. Some much so that the PM knows that if the Budget is presented on 13th, without the prior consent of the Cabinet, then the DLP is likely to lose when MAM calls for a divide.


  7. Bajans voted for a change in 2008 and 2013. Whatever is dished out to them, they should take it and not complain. The Guyanese and Jamaicans have been going through tough economic times from ever since and they have survived, Barbadians will survive too.

  8. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ JUST ASKING | August 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM |

    The tax would only be unfair if it is applied only to those already under the PAYE system. Those (too many of whom escape the income tax net as confirmed by no other than the Government’s chief advisor on matters of economic and finance, Sir Frank Alleyne) will continue to eschew paying even their basic fair share.

    It would only further penalise the existing law abiding taxpayers not catch anymore evaders.
    Instead of taxing incomes any further why not impose additional (or super tax) on properties (including vehicles) in excess of certain values deemed to be in the “luxury” bands or scales?


  9. Nothing unusual in the statements made by politicians and their ilk, as ever wildly different to what even those considered most stupid know and experience.

    They are in good company – When Tony Barber was M. Thatcher’s chancellor and made similar upbeat statements, one newspaper published a cartoon that said he was “either an idiot or chancellor of the exchequer”.

    Now characterise your guys.
    There must be some description that fits or you can use the one above.


  10. @Miller

    Your recommendation is useful but how would Kyffin receive such a measure?

    The word for the night is White Shadows, Don Blackman, we lie?


  11. @Twistorian, with due respect,can you see any of these hand-to-mouth DLP ministers going against the budget? NO, NO,NO. These DLP minister are not like the Wes Halls and others in the 1990s who walked out on Erskine Sandiford. Those individuals at that time were independent of government money, they stood up for principle. Not these nincompoop.These elephant looking ugly bitches are ‘tiefing’ left, right and centre, grabbing for themselves and would want to tax the rest of us to upkeep their life style.


  12. As I understand it a sure way to get the economy going again is to put money into peoples pockets, taxing their allowances, raising VAT to 17.5% did not do it – imposing a further tax on people’s incomes won’t do when people are taking home less money how can they get the economy going again?
    But then again this is our Govt we voted for them and they are not going to lay off any Govt workers.

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Bag Juice | August 3, 2013 at 7:05 PM |
    “The Guyanese and Jamaicans have been going through tough economic times from ever since and they have survived, Barbadians will survive too.”

    We don’t think Chalkdust would totally agree with you.
    Guyanese and Jamaicans can grow enough food to stave off starvation and make do with local substitutes.
    Can the same thing be said about Bajans who import nearly everything they consume -from food to ‘johnnies’ to bottled water to sweet potato crisps to baby nappies.

    All Bajans have is “sea water and sand”. Now that sugar is dead and the yam and potato fields overgrown with cowitch they can’t even make sweet water for belly ache from eating wind pies.
    Bajans better start earning some fast foreign money or crapaud would be soon smoking pipe with a bowtie labeled IMF (It’s My Fault) around its neck.


  14. Didn’t the MoF admit in his interview with David Ellis that first year VAT was hiked to 17.5% it raked in record breaking revenue but it also had the effect f choking the economy n subsequent years. Taxing the segment of middle class who hire helpers etc will probably do he same.


  15. Bag Juice

    You wanna bet?
    Wait and see if Budget Day is the 13th as planned.


  16. One MP has already booked and paid for flights to London


  17. Wuhloss Twistorian, you getting me more nervous and anxious now. This is too much to digest.

  18. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | August 3, 2013 at 7:11 PM |

    It would only confirm that these guys really don’t have the longer-term interest of the country at heart. And all his so-called Christian ‘mouthings’ would just be hypocritical hot air.
    It is a clear case of the “much better off” carrying a bit more of the burden and a greater share of the national sacrifice or signs of 1937 could raise their ugly heads.
    The poor really can’t take any more given the high cost of food and electricity.

    Taxing property instead of increasing taxation on existing incomes is a more efficient and equitable approach to reducing the fiscal deficit from the revenue side of the management equation.
    Property cannot hide and makes an easy tax point for assessment and collection. Whereas incomes can easily be hidden especially by smartass accountants working for lawyers, doctors, the self-employed and other high-flying income earners outside the PAYE system.


  19. @Miller, it is true, Jamaicans and Guyanese at least still have an ongoing agricultural sector and can at least feed themselves for a while longer than us here in Bim. These people are creative and make do with very little.


  20. A person earning $100,000.00 per year gets $8,333.00 per month he is already paying $1600+ to PAYE if he is only claiming the $25,000.00 allowance per year. Now based on these figures how much more can the MOF tax him? Another $300 or $400 a month?
    Next question how many persons registered with Inland Revenue earn $100,000.00 or more per year. From my Inland Revenue sources there are about 2,000 persons in that bracket. How much money does the MOF hope to get from this income bracket? Not even a million dollars a month. What a waste of time and energy.


  21. The focus is so much on taxing the so called ‘wealthy persons’, but no one is looking at the lot a blasted consultants all over the frigging place. A lot of these consultants are duplicating work already assigned to other government departments. For example, Dennis Holder, losing DLP candidate in St. Joseph is given a ‘pick’ as a consultant in the Ministry of Education, doing work already assigned to Guidance Councillors in schools. The summer camps, free bus rides, Constituency Councils, sponsoring Crop Over events among other vote catching exercises for parasitic Bajans must go..

  22. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Watching | August 3, 2013 at 8:56 PM |
    “From my Inland Revenue sources there are about 2,000 persons in that bracket. How much money does the MOF hope to get from this income bracket? Not even a million dollars a month. What a waste of time and energy.”

    A blasted waste of time indeed.

    Just the point I made. These people are already in the PAYE system or within the income tax net contributing their fair share and subject to audit if their tax contribution decreases significantly.
    Leave the income tax system alone but if concessions have to be dropped let it be a trade off between repealing or reducing the house repairs and mortgage interest concessions for deductions for private health insurance and registered educational saving plans for their offspring.

    The MoF needs to go after those high income earners not currently in the tax net. This not the miller’s baseless view but that of Sir Frank’s who will know these things.

    The best way to go about this is to match the registered property owners, real or vehicular, either individual or company with the income tax roll. Any one on the property roll not registered on the tax roll would be treated as an exception worthy of further investigation.

    This should be the first project for the much promised Central Revenue Authority (CRA).
    And with the modern integrated IT platforms this would be a piece of cake not requiring costly foreign consultants.
    But given the political fall out because of the party supporters and financiers involved such a project can only succeed under the aegis of foreign administrators like the IDB or IMF.

  23. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    millertheanunnaki @ We said before that this estate is to own 4000 houses and to get rents ,0ver 95% of this number is not getting rents but the lawyers and other are. therefore the rents are not recorded at Inland Rev and that is money off the books, The Fraud land lords do not have title or right to title as stated on the form,
    So all that money is off the books, For the BLP/ DLP know it Fraud they will not or cant force no one too pay for they all doing the same and allowing the same, The people that is going by law will pay a much heavier burden.
    Until they correct the records and put the facts back in place , End the UDC fraud set up and get rid of the VAT this will happen even after the newest tax are laid.
    All of Barbados is tied up in the land , We are more than happy to pay all taxes based on our Ownership of Estate , It will be more than any one will ever need, Let not for get another 2000 plus trespass and apartment buildings. The lawyers allowing others to avoid the taxes.
    This new tax on 100,000 or more will hit the lawyers , so they will raise the rents of their tenants .
    Some one have to pay the car note for Cicely Chase new land rover of 270.000bds.
    Barbados need to feel the power of this Massive Fraud before they ask for an Audit of all things, We know what they will find , But unless it comes for there lips all will think we just blowing air as they are Blowing the Bajan public with long talk. Sink man is a real stack of wood.


  24. There comes a point when you have to accept that which is staring you in the face.

    Barbados did not build a nation independent of foreign investment.

    Now the economy is in trouble because we all expected the world economy to follow the usual recovery cycle and it didn’t happen.

    Whom among you is willing to give up your luxurious North American style living for the good of your country?

    Any of you willing to make any sacrifices?

    Cuss the government all you want but there is a harsh reality coming that requires some personal sacrifice.

    All the brilliant theories by the BU intelligentsia will take too long to implement so the short term is going to be painful.

    no pain no gain.


  25. @Hants

    Didn’t you hear the calls for the pain to be administered 4 years ago on BU?

    On 4 August 2013 02:54, Barbados Underground


  26. Hants, you talking bare shit………….e. You must be one of them eating off the fatted calf and you ass full. Brass Bowl Stinkliar frig up the economy and now when it about to grind to a halt them want all hand on deck!!!!!!!! They were warned 6 years ago.


  27. So, Sir Roy is officially out of the social partnership.Umuh!!!!!!!!!!! Mess with the port and transport board workers ’bout here and we should see some industrial action ’bout ‘de place.

  28. David (not BU) Avatar

    i’m not a Sir Roy fan and this move makes me less of a fan but the question is, what is the end game here? as i see it, this move puts Sir Roy at the head of the table. he who is the piper calls the tune (in this case). he went to bat for the port works and they will now follow him into battle. that is all he needs.

    so now game on. i’m awaiting the Set and the Match.


  29. A certain future coalitional government of Barbados, and of which the PDC shall be a part of, shall make sure that there is the total absolute ABOLITION OF TAXATION in this country.

    Such a government and the vast majority of people in this country will help to liberate and free the vast majority of the people from the wicked oppressive bondage of TAXATION and thus usher in and maintain for this country a veritable post-TAXATION society.

    Such a government shall lead the way in the coordination and implementation and evaluation of the ‘right’ strategies and approaches for the government coming by its own substantial commercial remunerations based on its own commercial productive efforts, and for government and all other stake holders in the country putting the ‘right’ systems and cultures for the support of this post-TAXATION society.

    Indeed, TAXATION is one of the most manifest evil demonic anti-masses anti-middle classes anti-progressive anti-development systems in Barbados and elsewhere.

    TAXATION is the government (in the case of Barbados) engaging in fascistic criminal mass theft – on an ongoing basis – of countless portions of the incomes, payments and transfers of the relevant individuals, businesses and other entities in this country.

    Therefore, TAXATION is one of the primary inevitable causes of this prolonged political economic depression in Barbados.

    One reason why this is so is as a result of the Taxation system seriously aggressively violating the following fundamental principle (which (in Barbados’s case) the private sectors have been able to fairly master and practice – with some exceptions): that domestic entities must be able to present/give (sell or provide) ANYTHING (commerical goods and services) to the relevant people (buyers/users of goods/services) from ANYTHING (capital/assets/investments, etc) that is or can be used to get ANYTHING (nominal income/payments) from the relevant people (buyers/users) and that is or can be used as a means of making contributions to the advancement of human society in Barbados.

    Hence, the government sector absolutely deliberately wickedly prevents the greater operation of such a principle and its practice by continuing to criminally steal the incomes, payments and transfers of the relevant entities in this countries, whilst not making the greatest possible commercial use and marketization itself of the capital, assets, investments of the people of Barbados.

    PDC


  30. @Miller, David and the soothsayers. When did the budget come out? Did I miss something? I thought the budget was to be presented on the 15th, isn’t today the fourth? How come I missed it? I took a trip down roebuck Street, past Fairchild street earlier, passed down Cheapside and through the market. I saw lots and lots of vegetables and ground provisions available at reasonable prices. there were over twenty thousand people at Foreday morning Jam. Kensington oval was crowdede (sold out) for all the CPL matches, The Crop Over events were very well attended, and I was at the airport last wednesday and all the flights from England, The U.S and Caqnada came in full.Not to mention those from the rest of the CAribbean. During the war years we could not even get food to import and we survived, even thrived. I guess none of you soothsayers have faith either in god or yourselves. Whatever the outcome, long after you are gone, Barbados will still be here, and thriving. Unlike you I have confidence and down’t try to paint a worst picture for political purposes. What is to be will be and we will susurvive.


  31. @Alvin

    You always second guess BU and this will be your perennial challenge. Remember when we posted the issue with the prison officers? The MoF has been meeting with stakeholders and it is known how he is leaning on some of the issues. Like we stated, it will be a dozy.


  32. @Just asking
    I am not pleased about the proposed tax
    I think it is unfair
    Sorry you, Miller (change that,) not miller he/she seems to be one residing overseas who has a lot to say about conditions with which he/she is not familiar except hrough rumour) All of you are going to die if you hope to get to heaven. So you are asking for drastic measures (calling for layovvs, cuts etc, so be prepared to swallow the castor oil, without the benefit of orange juice. When I was young my mum gave me castor oil regularly, it was not pleasant but “it was for my good” and I survived. You will also survive. Be prepared to change your lifestyle, be prepared to sacrifice, stop moaning and groaning and live. the expected walkout is not coming despite your pressures, the government will survivr4 and your expectations (low) will come to naught. Sorry miller your sources are misleading you. What took place in the Sandiford era, will not happen again. There is nothing to gain from that “bluff”.

  33. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins | August 4, 2013 at 9:03 AM |

    It a pity, you Alvin and your lot, did not take a similar optimistic view of Barbados which up to up to January 2008 was the worst managed place in the world with the COL living killing every one and politicians thieving and corrupting everything in the place.

    Oh how things have changed for the better since January 2008, right Alvin.

    Tell that to the many public sector workers who would soon be facing a very optimistic bright and sunny upbeat future since there will be No layoffs or no privatization, right again Alvin?
    That $400 million would be covered like manna falling from your heaven just out of the “blues”.

  34. old onion bags Avatar

    Holy moley……what an emollient comment if ever there be one…..having just exposed one phony looney, up comes a visiting Crop Ova emigrant who could not have make it down here…. in times of good…adding his egocentric diddle. .what’s next exile the lugubrious maybe Alvin ole chap?


  35. @David,
    The MoF always meets with the stake holders; heads of all departments before every budget, so meeing with the stake holders now is nothing new.Of course it will be a doozy, and it should be expected. Nothing in this budget should surprise anyone, especially those of the monied class. remember when Obama was calling for an increase in taxes on the rich and what Romney was saying? Those who expect not to be touched by the austerity measures to come should be willing to bear the load.


  36. @Alvin

    You were out of Barbados and clearly need some time to catch up. How do you know what the MoF told the players this time around? Take BU’s word that this was a collaboration with a difference but we will see on the 13 and NOT the 15 as you earlier stated.


  37. @Old onion, I am not a crop over emigrant. I live here and contribute to this society in every way. That 400 million will stick in your craw, especially remembering what you folks
    contributed to its growth to the present dimension.Even the BMWs from the world cup fiasco were contributory elements


  38. @Miller, have the politicians changed from the OSA era? The Blp crew is the same aas it has been over the last eighteen years; Payne still there, MIA still there Cynthia still there, Dale still there Toppin still there;etc etc. Well Rommel gone and you lot want to send him further…right out!. The DLp foe from the 2008 election are the same, of course becaus after the decimation after the 8% etc it took time to rebuild so the politicians you refer to have tobe your own buddies.Anyhow we’ll wait and see how the universe unfolds, because unless som of the old bunch resgn or retire, a new election would probably put the same bunch you are referring to back in the saddle again to ride rough shod over the seme population again.
    Anyhow, let not yourheart be troubled, all will be revealed in good time.


  39. Alvin
    How you enjoying Crop Over man?We welcome the interactivity but understand a lil more before you play Nero betta still Ossie Moe


  40. @David, thanks for reminding me that it is the 13th. I will wait and lisen with bated breath. I expect lots of repercussions even before it is given. Hasn’t Deeds already said it will be all “lies”? Why should he or anyone listen then.


  41. The government has already given an insight in its development document which was NOT available to properly discussed at the consultation. Some where in the document it highlights the need to cut 200+ million from recurrent expenditure. This is a reality.


  42. @Onion, enjoying to the fullest. I enjoy every day. Read with consternation of the death of Louisa Nurse a wonderful person patriot and contributor to the culture of Barbados. A cancer sufferer who lived life positively May she rest in peace. Wish half of you saw more positivity in life rather than trying to see years down the road ratherthan from the immediate perspective.


  43. @Alvin

    Some of us carry the burden of planning a space for future generations. In fact it is our responsibility and to discuss debate disagree is all part of the process. You can’t have one without the other.

  44. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins | August 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM |

    You are really behaving like a man who is married to a woman who has children from another man to whom she was previously married but instead of dealing with the current relationship you keep talking about the ex-husband and comparing yourself to him.

    Don’t you guys realize that the BLP politicians are in Opposition and not at the wheel of government since 2008?
    The DLP is the husband now pretending to be running things not the ex-husband; unless you are not up to scratch in that vital area of satisfaction.

    The only person not around in government is the dead King of Liars and patron Saint of Thieves David so you can’t claim anymore to be the new boys on the block and learning on the job the art of satisfying a population accustomed to such. You said you could do a better job than the previous husband, so prove yourself now without abusing the children.


  45. Man Alvin

    You are really outta touch nowadays. Leme help out. Site this bro…. Do you realize depending on what is in the Budget come the 13th August….some family that today barely existing….no breakfast this morning… maybe a tin of sardine and rice for Sunday lunch.. by 9.00 pm children going sleep on the floor hungry ..face a real threat by that black box revelations you so readily prof ?…..

    Alvin in all honesty …what will be your Sunday lunch be…..most probably bake pork, a lil roast chicken ,veggies peas n rice,washed down with a cold beer or malt and a slice of chocolate cake for dessert…

    Try askin that family on sardines today to adapt as easily as you suggest…. for you it might be just a cut and contrive for them it maybe forced into crime or prostitution or even worse death.

    …..and doan retort as you so often do…” the poor will always be with us”..

    empathy man…..imagine the pain in those shoes.


  46. @David,Future generations wil bear their own burden. We can’t prepare for them because we have no real control over future events. We can prepare the ground but they will determine the actions to take. I could never understand why I drive through this country and see once beautiful homes falling apart. someone decided to leave them for their grandchildren who left the country, have no intention of returning and living and the equity in the building has thus evaporated. better to live, treat the house as a commodity, sell it when it will realize a profit and if necessary bequeath the funds derived to t trust for the children or grandchildren. Barbados in the future will not be the Barbados we of today want it to be. It will be the Barbados made by the children of that era. The music of oday is not the sameas the music of yesterday, even last year. do you know what it will be like next year?Doidn’t someone very famous say “Think not of the morrow, for the morrow will provide foor itself.


  47. @Alvin

    Good thing EWB Did not heed your perspective.


  48. @Old onion;
    You guys are the ones still longing for the ex-husband to come back and run the household. The old husband is jus that “old” even though you were very liberal in the use of photoshop in the photos on the manifesto. Take it from me the family who eats sardines is having a more healthy food than the other person with roast pork etc. But unless you guys wan to dismantle the welfare system that we presently have the family will have a better meal than that so don’t go there. You keep behaving as if families have to shop in the supermarket and support distributors like SBI. They can shop in the markets and support the small man. The dread picture you paint will not occur I can bet you a tin of sardines that will not happen.


  49. @David,
    @David,
    EWB LAID THE GROUNDWORK with his policy of equal opportunity in education for everyone. That is his legacy and it has paid off through the continuingstress on the importance of education carried on by the “future” generations, As I pointed out.

  50. old onion bags Avatar

    ……Man Alvin ya see what I mean….man ya really not in touch.

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