The late Margaret Thatcher
The late Margaret Thatcher

Whether one is on the left or right of the political centre the legacy of Margaret Thatcher will be narrated differently. For many Barbadians she will be remembered as the British prime minister – in partnership with US president Ronald Reagan – who had the ‘balls’ to attack communism and hasten its dismantlement. For others she rightly earned the nick name Iron Lady because of her economic policies which had embedded the dismemberment of the labour movement not to forget her successful strike against Argentina to win back the Falkland islands.

The extreme views which Thatcher often provoked from the public during her tenure remain a talking point and will definitely characterize her legacy. BU’s acid test of her effectiveness as a political persona maybe defined by her 11 consecutive years of rule; the longest consecutive tenure by any UK prime minister since 1832.   It must be stated that infighting by the Labour Party during her tenure and the opportunity which the so called Falklands war presented obviously contributed to her success at the polls. Ironically it took a stab in the back by her political party to cause her demise.

What cannot be refuted is that Thatcher’s foreign policy made  her a major player on the world stage. Equally her domestic policies for a myriad of reasons resonated with world citizens. Surely there is no politician who is loved by everyone however part of Thatcher’s legacy was built on a political philosophy where she was prepared to defend her positions to the death. Agree with her views or not her willingness to fearlessly defend the courage of her convictions provoked admiration in the  BU household during her period of rule –  there is the  regret that many local politicians do not show a willingness to demonstrate a similar quality.

Thatcher’s position on how the UK should integrate in the EU should be flagged on her bio. It was a position which is analogous to what Barbados is currently confronted with Caricom. Pursue economic cooperation by all means but do not surrender our birthright in the process by selling of our indigenous institutions which are an embodiment of who and what we are as a people.

When the dust is settled on Thatcher’s legacy the cold reality must be factored. When Thatcher assumed the reins of government in 1979 the economy was  marking time. Some may recall that the International Monetary Fund was in Whitehall. On yesterday’s talk show Tony Hoyos and Tony Best were critical of the fact that the labour movement has not recovered from its battle with Thatcher to this day. What they neglected to mention is that when Thatcher assumed office the UK economy was under the heavy influence of a strong union movement. The record shows that before Thatcher was elected UK had to suffer innumerable strikes which affected its economic performance. Thatcher obviously assessed the situation and history shows she concluded that her economic policies would have been defeated if she did not address the union issue. Whether you agreed she showed leadership by her decisive decision making.

Even in death her request not to stage a state funeral on her behalf because she feared it would provoke a divisive debate in parliament tells a story. The UK government it has been reported will settle for a  ceremonial funeral on April 17, 2013.

May she rest in peace.

186 responses to “Eulogising Baroness Margaret Thatcher”


  1. Thanks Sarge.

    BU made the point and it was echoed by Ping Pong, the IL and the Tories has had the longest consecutive run since 1852.


  2. BU notes Prime Minister Stuart signed the Condolence Book and confirmed that Barbados High Commissioner to UK will represent.

  3. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “Do you recall why the Iron Lady had to attack the labour movement? Do you recall the industrial climate under James Callaghan?”

    If what that old witch thatcher did was so wonderful and nothing was changed since she left office, how come England is in such dire straights?

    Why aren’t the people in England living in utopia?

  4. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Margaret Thatcher’s death greeted with street parties in Brixton and Glasgow

    Several hundred people gathered in south London on Monday evening to celebrate Margaret Thatcher’s death with cans of beer, pints of milk and an impromptu street disco playing the soundtrack to her years in power.

    Young and old descended on Brixton, a suburb which weathered two outbreaks of rioting during the Thatcher years. Many expressed jubilation that the leader they loved to hate was no more; others spoke of frustration that her legacy lived on.

    To cheers of “Maggie Maggie Maggie, dead dead dead,” posters of Thatcher were held aloft as reggae basslines pounded.

    Clive Barger, a 62-year-old adult education tutor, said he had turned out to mark the passing of “one of the vilest abominations of social and economic history”.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-party-brixton-glasgow


  5. Although Thacher was a grocer’s daughter. Her accent, of the UPPER CLASS, gives away her philosophical underpinnings. Thacher’s ability to fall comfortably within the arms of the USA republican fold is another dead give away. Britain and the USA are cousins in every aspect of the word.


  6. @lemuel

    Expect better from you. You are aware she attended Oxford and qualified in Chemistry?

    On those questioning her position on apartheid she was against sanctions because she felt it would make the situation worse for Blacks at the time. Surprisingly we have people today who feel the same way about the impact of the embargo on Cuba.


  7. Lessons in Karma
    You cannot like someone (present tense) when dead
    but you can hate someone (present and future tense)
    Thatchers legacy will be UK hated her with a passion
    when alive and dead will always hate her forever more


  8. (*) wrong tune above


  9. Carson C. Cadogan | April 10, 2013 at 5:19 PM |
    Bajans who will not miss Thatcher’s Funeral:-

    DAVID
    PRODIGAL SON
    OLD ONION BAGS
    MILLER
    SEETHRU
    FRANCIS CHANDLER
    Crusoe
    AMUSED
    ( I will add more names as time goes by)
    ———
    Because people comment independently but disagree with you, you ridicule them?

    As noted above, I certainly did not agree with everything she did.

    That said, one thing is true, that Thatcher did not suffer fools gladly and did not stand for mediocrity, yet you and others seem willing to join the ‘celebration’ of her death, in support of the mediocrity that she stood against.

    As for your reference to the British economy, it is significantly better off than all of Europe except Germany, and better off than the US.

    Rightfully, she led the spearhead in maintaining the British pound, a very wise move, as is clearly evidenced today.

    The irony is, from your past utterances, you support those who have failed to be proactive, who embrace those who have run amok with the financial system and who have failed to put any significant measures in place, financially.

    No wonder you support the mediocrity that Thatcher stood against.

    But I reiterate, she was no saint and none of us said that she was.

    Some of you cannot discern discussion of points, but use a broom to paint an issue, instead of assessing the various points at hand.


  10. ”lemuel | April 10, 2013 at 6:07 PM | Although Thacher was a grocer’s daughter. Her accent, of the UPPER CLASS, gives away her philosophical underpinnings’

    Ah, you mean she learned how to be articulate and spoke clearly and distinctly, using the Queens’s English?

    As opposed to bringing Parliament and the representative system to poor rakey levels of ‘bald pooch cat’ and ‘carry your mudda…’.

    And yet you vilify her?

    That says a lot.


  11. ”Carson C. Cadogan | April 10, 2013 at 5:52 PM | Margaret Thatcher’s death greeted with street parties in Brixton and Glasgow’
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    Just as I was disheartened at the gruesome death of Gaddafi and the unjust elimination of Hussain, I am disheartened by this negative expression; Negativity breeds nothing good.’

    But, I guess that the wee Glaswegians moost ave something tuh celuhbhrate.’


  12. @Crusoe
    Because people comment independently but disagree with you, you ridicule them?…..

    As noted above, I certainly did not agree with everything she did.

    That said, one thing is true, that Thatcher did not suffer fools gladly and did not stand for mediocrity, yet you and others seem willing to join the ‘celebration’ of her death, in support of the mediocrity that she stood against.

    As for your reference to the British economy, it is significantly better off than all of Europe except Germany, and better off than the US.

    Rightfully, she led the spearhead in maintaining the British pound, a very wise move, as is clearly evidenced today.

    The irony is, from your past utterances, you support those who have failed to be proactive, who embrace those who have run amok with the financial system and who have failed to put any significant measures in place, financially.

    No wonder you support the mediocrity that Thatcher stood against.

    But I reiterate, she was no saint and none of us said that she was.

    Some of you cannot discern discussion of points, but use a broom to paint an issue, instead of assessing the various points at hand………..
    …………………………….

    Well said, Crusoe. Dont worry with CCC. He will soon be singing a different tune soon as the hinges of the DLP economy break off!


  13. Where do I start? May be first foreign policy.
    Along with China and USA, the only governments to recognize Polpot.

    Removing Navy cover for the Falkland Islands which acted as a green light for Argentina to invade.

    The A320 shot down over the gulf “The Americans must have had a very good reason to shoot it down” and BTW America has never had the decency to even say sorry or offer compensation as they asked for and received for the Libyan Lockerby downing of PanAM 101.
    The A320 downing was obviously a ghastly and elementary mistake but they could have had the humility to say sorry.

    Nelson Mandela dubbed a terrorist.

    As for the claim of defeat of Communism — that would have to go to the Russians by refusing to bail out their inept industries, agriculture and their client states — quite unlike what we did recently by bailing out the banks and borrowing at an increased rate, printing money which was once preached as a bad thing that brought Hitler to power – they tart it up as Quantative Easing now. Meanwhile everything is on a downward trend.

    Once the Soviet Union made the decision they arrived at, implosion was impossible to avoid.

    At Home
    ========
    Unruly Trade Unions — dealt with by decimating industry, like creating a desert to get rid of a few weeds.

    Refused to support British industry whilst handing Toyota 700m UK Pounds to establish a factory in Derbyshire.

    Used North Sea oil revenues to support the people she made unemployed. Consequently it did no good for the country but it did forestall possible riots.

    When North Sea oil revenues slowed considerably she taxed middle income earners whilst decreasing tax for the well healed.

    Sold Council houses for which people were thankful whereas previously there were private housing developments on offer – the main reason I suspect was that sold Council houses were no longer an item on the maintenance budget.

    Allowed Rupert Murdoch to purchase up most of the newspapers so creating a huge propaganda plank that usually backs her party.

    Then there was the poll tax where everyone paid the same whether they lived in a mansion or in a run-down one bedroom hovel which proved to be the last straw in her downfall.

    There is no coincidence there have been celebrations up and down the country when the news of her death was announced.

    I am sure there are lots more I could cite.

    Tongue-in-cheek — she did great things which leaves us in the poor shape we are in.


  14. @Ping Pong
    I thought it ironic that the Australian Foreign Minister would comment about Thatcher’s racism particularly in the context of Asian immigration to Australia. Australia’s treatment of Asian refugees (the boat people) has not been extolled as good non-racial policy!
    **************
    Which “boat people” are these? Australia doesn’t have an enviable record as far as the races go given the treatment meted out to the Indigenous people that the European settlers found there; but if you are speaking of the current “boat people” the Australians view these “refugees” not as refugees in the conventional sense but as economic migrants who embark on leaky boats aided and abetted by criminal smugglers.

    This policy is not any different from the one adopted by Canada and even Barbados (remember the Ghanaians?)


  15. Mrs T was one smart Bitch, sold council houses to the workers and turned Socialists into Capitalists overnight,.screwed the labour party totally and wrecked Mr Arthur Scargils communist Miners Union.
    “Strike !!!” “,Bugger off I got me mortgage to pay”.


  16. WHO CARES ,BLA BLA BLA. LIKE MY FATHER USED TO SAY BAJAN JUST LIKE TO HEAR DEM SELVES SPEAK.I KNOW ENGLAND OWN THE WEST COAST OF BARBADOS THAT I KNOW.
    why not let the Chinese build the four seasons also ans bring in some Taiwanese as well !.shite man we could wipe out bajan workers all together.
    what a sad end to what could have been a lovely island if bicycle lanes were built and walking lanes. and get proper transport and proper garbage collection and popper cleaning of the island .,.
    does barbados have a street sweeper???????transport board and zr are surely not working.too many people and cars.==============
    shitty polluted place.no one ever think of proper planning and rules and infrastructure in barbados?because as it stands it is utter madness and i dont think tourist like madness,
    well only the ones that come for sex .dem is nasty scum.


  17. @mrcorrecto
    Hey man ,dat some powa’ful stuff yuh on.


  18. @Sid Boyce

    Can you explain why the Brits votes for the Iron Lady for 11 consecutive years?

  19. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “she was against sanctions because she felt it would make the situation worse for Blacks at the time.”

    If you believe that you would believe anything!


  20. Thatcher was popular as an out and out racist, those were the times……………so sorry she did not grab Dick Cheney by the hand when she was on her way to hell, while she was at it, she could have grabbed INCORRECTO as well…………….just saying.


  21. I can only put it down to 3 things that produced a kind of laughing gas generated by –
    1. Falklands victory “We are great again”.
    2. Those sale of those ghastly Council houses.
    3. Sales of assets like rail, water, gas, Post Office Telecom, etc. temporarily gave employees free money, instantly creating a feeling that they had at last joined the elite property owning and share owning democracy.

    The morning after effect like the recovery from a heavy night of drunkenness — those utilities now making them/us pay, in the words of the M6 Toll Road chief “What ever we damn well ask”.

    It’s unprecedented, the reaction her death has unleashed shows the level of ire and loathing that is her legacy.

    If we are still around we’ll see the same when it comes to Tony Blair’s turn – very popular abroad but hardly ever shows his face in Britain.


  22. You are so right — Remember the controversy of how swiftly citizenship was bestowed on Zola Budd so the South African could join the British Olympic squad.

    The woman has left a massive disaster trail in the wake of her premiership.


  23. That is what happens when demons are allowed to rule the earth.


  24. I agree with you Sid.

    Also the Labour party was in a mess for a long time and their leadership was weak. The public did not take to their leaders – Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock.

    There was certainly a lot of opposition to her policies among sections of the public – there was and still is deep divide – she was deeply loathed by many – especially parts of the country where people lost out. A lot of people lost their jobs due to her policies – some never found work again.

    As for South Africa – she wanted to maintain the status quo. I am incredulous that anyone thinks otherwise. This is the woman who talked about Britain being swamped with immigrants. This is the woman who changed the law so that children born in Britain no longer had automatic citizenship. Another reason why some of us found the Zola Budd debacle so offensive.


  25. @ Well Well
    “That is what happens when demons are allowed to rule the earth.”
    ************
    One wonders if you know how right you are….!


  26. Bushie……………..oh yes I do………….and we both know it goes even deeper than that……………


  27. Bushie
    Don’t start with that spiritual stuff. remember demons are abroad in Bim. When I heard Peter Bullham ranting and raving on VOB about Project Hope attacking him and those who believe and behave like him, I knew that demons are abroad in Bim. Peter Bullham rattles off his nonsense but people are not to say “bulling” is wrong. And yes Peter Jesus would have not have condoned your sin of bulling.


  28. So Mark thatcher was in Barbados when the Iron Lady passed on.Wonder what was he up to?
    Love the Irish humour .Grafittied on a wall there:
    IRON LADY?
    RUST IN HELL.
    Says it all for many,many folk.The racist,toffee nosed old hag!!


  29. I bet the local authorities in Bim would not want to monitor Mark Thatcher’s activities to see what mischief or crime he is planning, like he did in Africa.


  30. Madam Medusa
    Madam Medusa
    Madam Medusa

    Knock her right down
    And then she bounce right back
    Knock her right down
    And then she bounce right back
    She gone off her head
    We’ve got to shoot her dead
    She gone off her head
    We’ve got to shoot her dead
    Run for your life before she eat you alive
    Run for your life before she eat you alive
    Move out of the way ’cause you’re blocking out the day
    Move out of the way ’cause you’re blocking out the day


  31. Why is Mark Thatcher even allowed in the island. Very poor show by the Government. Check out his record.


  32. HM………we should be asking at of immigration at the airport, they are quick to jump on Jamaicans (even though they are right in some instances) Guyanese, and all other Caribbean people in the name of protecting the borders………………..but a vicious criminal like Mark Thatcher who already used the island as part of his criminal activities is given free reign……………..tells us a lot about the ones charged (the governments) with protecting the island and who they are really protecting. Thatcher should be persona non grata in Bim after the way he used the island.


  33. The US don’t want Thatcher within thousands of miles of their country, but Barbados continues to enable this rat.


  34. lemuel

    You insufferable Jack ASS …!


  35. Number 1 in the UK Charts!
    Smash Racists Faces Places


  36. That song hit #1 the same day Margaret Thatcher died………………it was something…….pop stars were celebrating.


  37. @ BAF

    How do you account for a circumstance where the masters of people like Lemuel. The people who gave them all that they are, their religion, and wider cultural norms have moved away from the ignorance promulgated by the misguided and brainwashed. We could never understand why Bajans are so interested in what adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms. Because some stupid ‘god’ say so. If we had to listen to these people the missionary position would be all we know, slavery would still be sanctioned, black people would still be in the back of the bus, women would not have ‘equal’ human rights, the specter of Apartheid would still be with us. And we have all types of larger problems that we cannot even address. This losing battle is a mere red herring that acts as cover for other agendas that are not in the interests of LGBT people or the rest of us. When are they going to come for the rest of us who are followers of the ways of polygamy or polyandry. When are they going to come for us.


  38. Pacarama
    If the cap fits, it seems as if you are pulling the string, or you are Peter Bullham himself. Remember tolerance can not be defined as “having your own way at the expense of the greater good”, whether it is in your bedroom or in Broad street. People like you and Peter Bullham believe that ALL of us must be “bull master generals”; most people like me disagree and shall ALWAYS disagree. You and your sort are usually bereft of the simple morality that this short life calls for.


  39. BAF
    I excuse you as Peter BUllham normally takes his delight in having you call in via the cell phone if you please. So Baffy you have to sing for your supper or no more toleration via the talk show.

  40. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Britain snubs Argentina’s Fernandez over Thatcher funeral

    LONDON (Reuters) – Britain will not invite Argentine President Cristina Fernandez to Margaret Thatcher’s funeral next week in a snub likely to deepen a long-running diplomatic dispute over the Falkland Islands.

    Thatcher, 87, who died on Monday, led Britain at the time of the 1982 Falklands war ordering her armed forces to repel an Argentine invasion of the contested South Atlantic archipelago which Argentina calls Las Malvinas.

    http://news.yahoo.com/britain-snubs-argentina-over-margaret-thatcher-funeral-092537571.html


  41. Pachamama
    Be careful how you lift your heel against the only GOD. Stop with the usual brain wash approach. In my case that shall not save your tail; and I nor interested in ti the way Peter and Baffy would be. The truth is that if you have a part of ANY teaching institution, you HAVE BEEN BRAIN WASHED. What you supported as facts then were the accept propaganda for that time. Peace my friend.


  42. Pachamama
    May be when Mam Mia attains the lofty role of PM, she can create the Ministry of Homosexual Acts and Issues. How many bajans do you think would work there. I would , but how many more. You and Baffy can even lobby for Peter Bullham to be Minister. The things you and your kind run around postulating are of an extreme base nature that not even you or your kind understand the forces that are set into motion, and the old worship and homosexual acts are only a cover.

  43. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Thatcher took ‘three minutes’ to make Belgrano decision

    What came as some considerable surprise to me though was that when he and the Chief of the Defence Staff flew to Chequers to inform Mrs Thatcher that the submarine the Conquerer had located the Belgrano, the prime Minister took just three minutes to make the decision to sink it .

    http://www.itv.com/news/2012-03-23/margaret-thatcher-took-three-minutes-to-make-belgrano-decision/

    321 killed, mainly Navy cadets.
    The Belgrano was outside the 200 mile limit but it made no difference to blood thirsty Thatcher.


  44. coming from the mothership


  45. Watch it Pachamama – your slip is showing as you display signs of being ENGINEERED.
    I once has a cousin tell me I was BRAINWASHED and I had to point out that it was rich coming from someone incapable of any thought process of her own and capable only of a robotic like existence repeating the few words acquired and if she had been subjected to Shogan, Jewish, Hindu or other religious programming she would be the same but running a different program, effectively a human version of a special purpose computer – add the usual mechanical parts and you end up with a robot with flesh and blood.


  46. @ Lemuel

    You can’t frighten us with your ungodly damnation. We have already demanded to be the first in line to your hell. These are the lies that merely serve to control people minds – through fear. We fear neither you nor your god. Leave the LGBT people alone. We’ll bet that the genesis of this phenomenon is likely to be located within your god business.


  47. Pacamama
    I do not intend to frighten you. You have decided to defend a man Peter Bullham who thinks he has a right to pontificate his opinion but project hope or others do not have the same right. The God that I know would not condemn you or Peter before giving you an opportunity to know or reject. Paca you are repeating what you heard or read.

    I am not attacking LGBT people; my problem is the attitude of Peter Bullham and his attitude towards other views which hold the basis that his lifestyle would never ever be right.


  48. Lemuel

    Jesus H Christ … What Jack Assery …


  49. Baffy
    Is that you. BAF the problem with you is that you are like the King who placed his throne by the sea shore and spent an entire day uselessly ordering the sea around. Your word is and shall never be final. I guess the rest of civilization shall continue to jack ass at your pitiful expense.

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