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Sugar Hill Residents Asked to Submit to Fingerprinting

There is a situation which has developed at the plush Sugar Hill West Coast residential location. In light of the recent admission by the Barbados Police Force that the stealing of jewellery has gotten out of control this is an interesting move by the Police. Is it one of desperation perhaps? How does the BU…

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Sugar Hill Resort

There is a situation which has developed at the plush Sugar Hill West Coast residential location. In light of the recent admission by the Barbados Police Force that the stealing of jewellery has gotten out of control this is an interesting move by the Police. Is it one of desperation perhaps? How does the BU family feel about the dilemma which Sugar Hill residents find themselves?

Dear Barbados Underground:

The police are requesting that all staff and contractors at Sugar Hill voluntarily submit for fingerprinting in relation to some breakins at the resort. Is this legal? Will they also be fingerprinting guests who stayed at the resort? What about friends of owners? People eating at the public restaurant during that time? What will happen to the fingerprints? This seems wrong and a bit racist. While it appears voluntary, there seems that there might be consequences if you refuse.

Concerned Resident of Sugar Hill

Letter sent by the Royal Barbados Police Force to the Operations Manager of Sugar Hill Adrian Gale.

The following is an email which was sent to the residents by the Sugar Hill’s Operations Manager in response to the letter from the Police.

Subject: FW: RBPF Finger Printing Staff at Sugar Hill

Dear All,

As you are aware our file was passed to the Major Crimes Department in the Royal Barbados Police Force (RBPF). They have requested that all Staff with access to the Estate be finger printed as they are in possession of some forensic evidence, finger prints, from properties that suffered burglaries. See attached their letter of request.

The program will be on Tuesday the 12th March through to Thursday the 14th of March in the Members Lounge from 9am to 11am.

Therefore I ask You and or Your Villa Managers to comply with their request and advise all the staff and regular contractors accordingly.

In order to control this process the Sugar Hill Reception will be taking the names and dates preferred for staff to be finger printed. Also be aware that the RBPF have the names of the staff working on the Estate and may be questioning why someone does not turn up to be finger printed.

Ps I will be the first in line.

Regards

Adrian Gale

Operations Manager

Sugar Hill Resort

93 responses to “Sugar Hill Residents Asked to Submit to Fingerprinting”

  1. Jock Baumann Avatar
    Jock Baumann

    Adrian Gale:
    “Also be aware that the RBPF have the names of the staff working on the Estate and may be questioning why someone does not turn up to be finger printed.”

    You’ve got to be fcking kidding me. Where are we? Nineteen fifty fcking six?

    This is a written threat. This is intimidation. Hey, Ade? I’ve never met you, and in fact I’d never heard about you before today, but you’re a dick if you think this kind of rubbish is acceptable. You do not have one fcking legal leg to stand on.

    This whole story is utterly appalling. You want to start fingerprinting innocent citizens now, Ade. On what legal basis? What?

  2. Funmilayo Jones Avatar
    Funmilayo Jones

    To allow the RBPF to force citizens and/or residents of SH to submit to having their fingerprints taken, if they are not persons of interest in these robberies, is to set a bad precedent. Fingerprinting should happen only if CSI’s find fingerprints at the crime scene and need to confirm.

    If I worked at this resort, I would refuse – I feel certain. If my job depended on it, and I was made to submit, then I would want to bring lawsuit against those responsible.

    Still, I believe that anyone working in private or public sectors should be fingerprinted, as a norm – for their own protection. I would also add children who are too often kidnapped, should be fingerprinted. However, that is an aside.

    This situation is ludicrous and every Barbadian at home, or abroad should react against this nonsense. Visitors, some of whom are criminals, should not be exempted. This initiative is costly, to say the least. Who will surmount the costs?
    Submitting to this would be the beginning of giving away one’s legal and human rights. Who is to say what the next step will be? No way!

  3. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @lawson | March 7, 2013 at 6:04 PM “Everybody has to decide what kind of world you want. Give up a few rights for the good of the island as a whole.”

    I don’t want to live in a world where the police , supported by my manager can show up at my workplace and demand that I be fingerprinted. Lousy management. Lousy policing.

    This Bajan does NOT intend to give up ANY of my rights “for the good of the island.”

    Rather this Bajan wants the island and its police to RESPECT, DEFEND, PROTECT and HONOUR…

    MY RIGHTS

    If the police have reasonable and probable cause to believe that anyone has committed a crime and they need to carry out a search (and fingerprinting is searching) then they should go to court and get PERMISSION, ie. a search warrant to carry out such a search.

    For a boss to say submit to an unlawful search or else….is lousy, bad management.

    And for the police to collude in this is disgraceful.

  4. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    His thing is the not so thin edge of the wedge.

    Next thing you know the police will show up at Amused’s home, without a search warrant, and demand to search up ‘is ‘rass, and up his wife’s pokey, and the hard drive of their computers, and their bank accounts, and demand that Amused his wife and all their children give DNA samples.

    These too are searches.

    The question is do we want to live in a country where the police and the bosses do these things?

  5. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    I don’t.

  6. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Jack Bowman, this is you?

  7. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    No-one is getting the lash, whats being asked is a pretty standard request for a lot of jobs….Do you have life insurance? When you have to take a blood test to get it, is that against your human rights, are they to believe what you said is true rather than making sure you dont smoke, have a disease etc before giving you a policy. As to the tourist theft Insurance companies in my experience are pretty clever they do not like to pay out.So right off the bat there is a deductible then there are all the questions why did you take it with you, did you report it at customs, prove you even had it with you show me some pictures etc, I am sure they would be checking all your credit, and past history if the loss is large enough they may not even cover it out of country without a special ryder It can certainly be an inside job but more often than naught it isnt

  8. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David:

    It would be interesting to find out if the new Employment Rights Act passed in our last Parliament speaks to such an issue or offers protection to workers in similar circumstances.

  9. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    Hopefully Caswell will enlighten us but there is always the Tribunal.

  10. Jack Bowman Avatar
    Jack Bowman

    Simple Simon, March 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM:

    “Jack Bowman, this is you?”

    This is me.

  11. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @Lawson
    No-one is getting the lash, whats being asked is a pretty standard request for a lot of jobs
    *************
    If that is a condition of employment it’s one thing but to ask people to submit to fingerprinting after they have been employed is another and a major invasion of privacy. If the company wants to put this condition in place for future employees they may be free to do so but the employee would be able to decide if this is the kind of company he/she wants to work for. In this job market many (potential) employees will accede to any demand because they want a job.

  12. David Avatar
    David

    See this story made the Nation newspaper this morning.

    BTW one million in gold stolen for the year according to Commissioner Dottin. The CoP has repeated his Advisory. No doubt he sees a big problem here. Let us hope he turns his attention to the Judiciary next.

  13. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David

    What civic/moral/legal responsibility is required of those in the Gold/Jewellery purchasing businesses? Do they record the identification of individuals who sell items to them? Do they keep records of any such purchases? Can law enforcement access any records that they have?

    If they don’t do any of the above I can only say that they are “legitimate” fences who are aiding and abetting the trafficking of stolen goods.

  14. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    as I said before institute a new policy going forward you will achieve the same results, once you have the fingerprints whether you get them now or a year from now you can make the comparison then. Those who do-not want to be fingerprinted will move on.One of two results should be achieved the thief is caught or the thief moves on.either one is acceptable.Others should learn from this experience and review their situation in regards to employing people or access to sensitive areas, There are no shortage of morons out there scrounging for scraps oblivious that they are destroying the economy with each criminal act.When the people at the top have to drive a volkswagon instead of a lexus action will come quickly.

  15. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Lawson
    The problem with the approach outlined by yourself and Amused is that, while well intentioned, it is the path to hell.
    Case in point- the USA’s Patriach Act which is conceived to “protect the Homeland” from future 911 type events has in fact resulted in America becoming very similar to Nazi Germany in terms of the potential LEGAL use of police and military power on ordinary citizens.

    If those in charge could be trusted to be honest, fair and just, then such an approach could be allowed…..BUT put a devil in charge and we are all up shit street.
    We are just lucky so far that those in charge have generally been intellectual Lilliputians….

    Have you any idea how the fancy surveillance systems handed to authorities for WCC11 are being used?
    LOL it certainly is NOT against the cash for gold, or local drug lords…. But note that not a boy can fire any of those big boys – althought they continue to demonstrate how incompetent, stupid and backwards they are, and to destroy our tourist industry in the process.

    How is the Lie Detector equipment being used?
    Is it to intimidate those who appear to challenge the positions of the boss? Are calls of high ranked officials monitored?

    When your fingerprint info get into the wrong hands who is to challenge a (false) claim next year that your “prints” were found at such and such location?…..if you should rub the wrong person the wrong way….

    If a worker’s prints are taken UP FRONT, then at least that worker knows (or ought to know) how to operate accordingly. ….anything else can easily constitute entrapment.

    This may not be a simple case of catching a thief. It may be an elaborate setup to the next step when a lie detector test is mandated for every citizen annually…

    Are You David of BU?
    Are You the same GP who cussed Freundy on BU?
    ….Dodds for wunna tails… 🙂

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @Bush Tea

    Thanks for the headsup but when one understands why we exist and the insignificance of our temporal existence in the grand scheme of things, accepting the consequences of decisions we make is NOT a problem.

  17. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    Dey have lie detectors in Bim? They are based on bogus science ah wonder who approved that purchase? Sum ah dese politicians don’t have any respect for taxpayers money. Since they are here next Election lets apply them to all politicians get them on the platform; hook them up to the politicians and fire away wid yuh questions.

    I imagine since that suggestion is out there by next Election they will have an “Out of Order” sign on alla dem.

  18. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ David
    “……Thanks for the headsup but when one understands why we exist and the insignificance of our temporal existence in the grand scheme of things, accepting the consequences of decisions we make is NOT a problem.”
    ************
    Skippa, you OK?
    That sounds real deep yuh!
    …Cause if we REALLY understood why we exist we would be so overwhelmed with the potentialities that the lotta nonsense that we blog daily would be embarrassing.

    On a more day to day note however…
    Are you saying that when a senior police officer questions one of the now notoriously stupid decisions of his boss, and is subsequently deemed to have failed a lie detector/ drug/ security test and retired/ demoted/ posted to Culpepper Island – that “the consequences of decisions we make is NOT a problem.”?

  19. David Avatar
    David

    @Bush Tea

    Look at it this way. Such an occurrence creates the opportunity for others to demonstrate leadership.

    Some of the daily noise and claptrap on BU serves to remind of the importance of those who have seen the light 🙂

  20. David Avatar
    David

    @Sargeant

    To your earlier question, speaking from memory there is a piece of legislation to be read or proclaimed to give to strengthen the legal framework around the cash for gold trade. Legit cash for gold businesses ask for ID and captures an image of the item being sold. In other words they have records which the police can use to track jewellery sold. The issue here is clearly not the legit businesses.

  21. David Avatar
    David

    BU inadvertently omitted to update the letter from the police to Sugar Hill.

    http://bajan.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/lettersugarhill.png

  22. EQUAL RIGHTS & JUSTICE. Avatar
    EQUAL RIGHTS & JUSTICE.

    the BDF uses polygraph testing ,but ask any solider and they will tell u they abuse it

  23. Whistling Duck Avatar
    Whistling Duck

    This is all a bit strange. Were the robberies from residents or visitors? When the robberies happened were the people at home or out? What type of things were taken? None of these questions have been answered.

  24. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    According to a police report in today’s Nation “Bajans have been robbed of jewellery valued almost $1million in the first two months of the year”

    Now unless the robbers are keeping the gold under thier beds, they must have sold the gold to the cash for gold byers. Is anybody checking to see who these byers are?

    Note that also in today’s Nation 3 women, one of them middle aged, and a young man were charged for stealing hair worth $887 dollars worth of hair, and 2 nail polishes , and some other petty item. All four of them were remanded to jail, because the court feels that they are a danger to the community. On the same page of the Nation a 24 year old “businessman” named Esuf I think, he looks of Syrian parentage was charged with having more than $50,000 worth of cash on him. This cash was in U.S. dollars, pounds, ever Saudi Rials. He was given bail.

    Evidently the court thinks that this young man is of no danger to the community.

    I am curious to know where a young fella would get $50,000 cash in many varied currencies from.?

    It makes me wonder. A middled aged supposed hair thief and her friends are a danger to the community and people with huge amounts of cash are not?

    Are any of us really surprised then that a million dollars worth of gold can disappear just so and the police cannot find a trace, nor charge a fella…but they have the time to arrest and charge hair thieves?

    No wonder people are losing respect for the law.

  25. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    I think that Barbados and Barbadians are PERMITTING themselves to be corrupted.

    They have let others cause them to believe that money is God.

    If we sow the wind, you will reap the whirlwind.

    Please note that a lot of wealthy Syrians cannot go home again.

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Simple Simon | March 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM |
    “They have let others cause them to believe that money is God.”

    It’s the only “God” that has universal concordance on this diverse planet. It’s the only currency in whichever form or denomination that is exchangeable among all religious sellers and buyers. The other god is just the banker to be used or expended as the dice of luck rolls around.

  27. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    http://www.caribbean360.com/index.php/news/barbados_news/671625.html#axzz2McXhywxz

  28. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    Excellent Hants for all those who say justice is not even handed read this article. We have the airport screening doing its job, the police did theirs, and the legal system worked. The violator said he does not want a repeat performance of that, The world looking in sees a compliant secure island with laws all citizens and visitors have to follow.Job well done

  29. TO THE POINT Avatar
    TO THE POINT

    i am not a lawyer, but having seen the letter from the COM, do the workers have to voultarily submit to finger printing? If u r are saying that the workers have to submit a police certificate of character what has the police done with the imformation it would have harvested? It tell me that there is no information management system for finger priniting as all of that inofrormation should have been stored in a data base and the information the police lifted from the scene should be run against its dta base to ascertain if there /is/are match(es).

  30. Amused Avatar
    Amused

    I still fail to understand the problem with seeking fingerprints. The police say that they have forensic evidence and ask for fingerprints from staff. In any other country that would not be a problem. And the alternative is to fingerprint those who are willing. And those who are not willing, wait for them to touch a drinks bottle or anything else and to lift the prints from that. You mean they are going to spend their lives wearing gloves? If any of them match, then police can seek a court order against that particular person for a formal fingerprint session, as they will be able to show the court sufficient evidence of why these prints ought to be the subject of a court order. So basically all they are doing is to ask that the staff and suppliers make their jobs easier and allow them to clear the staff – but one way or another they WILL get the prints. My suggestion given earlier, however, makes it possible to exercise some sort of control over the process and, for the innocent, ensure that they are protected and, for those who may appear (guilty, to ensure that they too are protected within the law.

    After all, forensic evidence is hardly proof of guilt. Let me put it this way. I don’t know if this is the case, but most hotel rooms have safes. Those safes are usually operated by combination locks, but are left open so that those moving into the rooms can set their own combinations. Presumably, a part of the servicing of a room before the arrival of any guests would be to ensure that the safe is empty and that the interior is wiped down – and this would inevitably cause fingerprints from the member of staff doing this to be on the inside of the safe. It is possible that the police forensic evidence shows fingerprints of a staff member. But that is NOT evidence of guilt and can easily be discounted by showing when and in what circumstances the prints may have been left. Therefore the staff as a whole retain counsel to protect them from the various activities of the police that have recently come to light in the international press. And if the prints match and that person has been one of those refusing to provide them, the evidence does appear a lot more damning.

    This is not nuclear physics of brain surgery, you know. We are a country whose finances are almost entirely supported by tourism…..and the tourists are staying away in DROVES thanks to the level of crime (I mean how low have we sunk when an advisory is issued to tourists not to wear gold in public?). Also, to the (true) press revelations about the practices of our police, not to mention the amazing (and true) revelations on the death and burial of our justice system. So, the Police are asking, politely, to assist them by providing some fingerprints. And people are getting hung up on trivia?

    So, Bushie, this is one of those very few (almost non-existant) occasions when I really do not understand where you are coming from.

  31. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    So tell us Amused, would you have a problem with hotel employees being subjected to monthly lie detector tests where we can simply “eliminate the innocent” by asking if they committed any crimes against tourist in the last month?

    If you don’t…..how about a random monthly lie detector test on citizens to eliminate the innocent among us and catch the crooks and druggies?

    How about one at work to identify who are stealing the stationary?

    How about one for Lawyers to eliminate the two honest ones in Barbados at present?

    ….you follow Bushie’s concern yet….? It is the road to a police state with people like Dottin in the drivers’ seats.

  32. Amused Avatar
    Amused

    @Bushie. Give me a break. You know perfectly well that a lie detector test is fatally flawed and can never be admitted as evidence. A lie detector test is unenforceable under ANY circumstances, because it is not sufficiently fool-proof and reliable. However, fingerprinting is something quite different AND YOU KNOW IT. And what we are discussing is fingerprinting.

    And yes, I too am concerned about having a prize moron like Dottin in charge of the police. I am also greatly concerned about having a person like Leacock as DPP. I am concerned about every aspect of the so-called administration of justice in Barbados. And it distresses me to have to recommend that employees of the resort have counsel for what in any other country would be a standard process. But, until Barbados puts in place FOI and protection of privacy legislation, while providing what is necessary to enable (or facilitate) bringing criminals to justice, the innocent will need to ensure that they are protected from those whose job it is to serve and protect the innocent.

    Bushie, of course I am concerned. So I have suggested a means by which the needs of all sides can be met and justice, hopefully, done. So, while I always respect your views and opinions, I respectfully suggest that there is a fine line between the protection of human and civil rights and obstruction that leads to the human and civil rights of others being eroded, compromised and breached.

  33. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Amused
    “A lie detector test is unenforceable under ANY circumstances, because it is not sufficiently fool-proof and reliable.”
    ************
    Man Amused, ANY test that requires an “expert” to make determinations about whether prints match or lie detector test are passed or failed – are only as reliable as the ” experts”.

    It is an easy step from finger prints to eye scanners, lie detectors etc…

    When some cop expert says that ” these prints match”….THEY MATCH!
    What you going do? (We know your answer – Call Philip Pilgrim 🙂 )
    But when you have already confessed to the crime (remember the tourist rape suspect?) who will doubt that the prints indeed match?

    What do you not get about planting ground for monkey to run on…?

    With respect to Lie Detectors, are you saying that you are unaware of the use of these in Barbados already?

  34. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @Amused
    I still fail to understand the problem with seeking fingerprints. The police say that they have forensic evidence and ask for fingerprints from staff. In any other country that would not be a problem.
    **********************
    Care to name any countries where citizens will willingly pony up to have their fingerprints taken on the Police say so? If any of these countries have a Gulag they don’t count.

  35. David Avatar
    David

    First it was the CoP surrendering to the crime spree as a result of the cash for gold and now we are hearing the AG expressing concern about the prison population.

    When will we hear about an ACTION PLAN.

  36. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | March 12, 2013 at 8:11 AM |

    Just imagine if we still had a Glendairy prison!
    Everything happens for a good reason.

  37. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Does the fingerprinting include the owners and their guests? If not, why not. They too should be fingerprinted so they could be eliminated.

  38. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ David
    Years ago, Bushie used to complain about leadership in Barbados, but compared to what we have now, those were the good old days.
    The AG, COP and DPP in particular, seem to have charted out a new nadir in the concept of leadership that actually defies belief.

    Where did we find these clowns? Is it any wonder we can’t find young recruits for the disciplined forces? Would YOU want to work for any of these jokers if you had ANY options at all….including begging?

    Bushie can think of very few reasons why these idiots have not yet been sent packing…..and these reasons all relate to the weak kneed, IQ-challenged political liabilities that have saddled this country since the days of the Dipper and Tom Adams.

    We need a public call for these clowns to pack their bags and go away…and they should then disclose any ‘information’ to which they may be privy that may have induced their political bosses to have retained them so long past their expiriery dates…

  39. Amused Avatar
    Amused

    @Bushy. I am not interested in whether the lie detector is in use in Barbados or not. All I am interested in is if it can be admitted as evidence in a court of law. If it cannot, then why should I worry my head about it? Why would YOU worry your head over it?

    There are many major firms today who, before hiring personnel, have handwriting analyses and sometimes astrological charts done on the prospective employees. Some even go so far as to have a psychiatrist or psychologist sit in on the interviews and ask questions.

    Fingerprints are matched by a computer programme and that programme is the “expert” to which you allude. In matching the prints, the computer provides a percentage of proof – like 100% or just 50%. If it is 100% or above a certain percentage, then the evidence is deemed sound and the prosecution can rely on it, provided it can be linked to other necessary evidence. Otherwise, it is all too easy to have it disallowed. I can assure you that the computer programme used to match fingerprints was NOT formulated in Barbados nor can it be tampered with.

    As for Hal’s question, it makes sense to me and from what I know of criminal investigation that the guests who occupied the suite and any who the police believe might have visited the suite are fingerprinted for the purposes of elimination (or not as the case may be). I would hazard a guess that all those guests have already provided their fingerprints willingly. I would see no reason why the fact of the fingerprinting of the guests (who are paying to stay there) ought to be the concern of the staff (who depend on those guests for their jobs). This is the damned fool attitude that is swiftly killing of our tourism industry. No one is saying that we should roll over and play dead. BUT, there is a little thing known as “respect due” and if we are not going to give it to our tourists whose money pays the country’s bills, then said tourists will go elsewhere and pay someone else’s bills.

    Anyway, this discussion has now bored me totally. The employees will do what the hell they want. Their lives, their free-will, their choice. And inevitably it is they who will face both the positive and the negative of their decisions. Nothing to do with me.

    I leave this discussion with the image of Bushy in my mind, who is staying at a hotel in Florida and returns to his room to find that the $100,000 US that he had brought with him under the noses of the Central Bank watchdogs, has been stolen out of his safe. He calls the Florida police. The Florida police take the fingerprints of Bushy and whoever else is staying in Bushy’s room, along with the fingerprints of any guests that Bushy may have invited to his room to partake of his hospitality. The cops then notice that there are other fingerprints that do not match the ones they have taken. So, having the advantage of IAFIS, they lift the prints and run them through the IAFIS system, but there are no hits. They then are left with the option of saying to Bushy, “Sorry, old chum. Kiss goodbye to your money, because we are not going to upset the staff by asking for their prints.” And Bushy, bearing in mind his position on the Sugar Hill issue, completely agrees with the police, kisses his property a fond farewell and departs cheerfully, determined to speak highly and often of the hotel and the wonderful conduct of the police and, moreover, makes immediate bookings to return to said hotel. My goodness, what an image. Maybe Bushy will take Hal Austin with him next time.

  40. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    Good one Amused I thoroughly enjoyed the above post!

  41. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Islandgal
    …..What the !€#%~+!!!!!
    Amused pelting licks in your ‘no 1 suitor’ and you “thoroughly enjoyed” it! …… Wait till we get in the Bush……BT doubling up on the goatmilk….

    @ Amused
    If Bushie was foolish enough to leave $100,000 in a hotel safe in Miami, a more appropriate response from the responding cop should be to fall down the stairs in uncontrolled laughter…
    Listen Amused, why don’t we cut this short? All you would need to do is admit that Bushie is right (as if that was a question 🙂 ) and update your databank for future reference….

    Your suggestion about what would ‘hold up in court’ is about as laughable as Bushie’s $100,000
    Skippa, court decisions mean 6 to 10 years after the fact, (often with the accused in REMAND if he is a poorboy or even a rich bushman without Lodge Brothers) ….you could be serious?

    1 point to Bushie

    Secondly, what an employer does BEFORE hiring an employee is TOTALLY his business…..he could draw lots for all it matters.

    HOWEVER…..after the employment CONTRACT, it becomes a different matter altogether……You know that!
    …this is why it makes sense (from your businesslike reasoning) to collect such information UP FRONT in the employment relationship.

    2 points to the bushman

    Why do you not care if the lie detection equipment is being used in Barbados?
    Do you care how many poor Bajans have been put out of their jobs because of alleged failed tests?
    …about how many promotions have been jerrymandered based on such questionable test results? So unless the victims can afford $20,000 to go to court this is of no concern to you?

    3 points to Bushie

    Your initial response is well meaning, but flawed in that it fails to address larger concerns than the alleged theft of some tourist’s jewelry…..

    BTW
    …..why would a British / Canadian tourist, coming to a holiday/ hotel / beach/ strange place bring expensive jewelry with them….?
    Any sensible answers to that question anyone?

  42. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Are the fingerprints going to be destroyed?

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