Submitted by William Skinner
Clyde Mascoll, BLP spokesman of economic matters deemed a liability
Clyde Mascoll, BLP spokesman on economic matters deemed a liability

Many years ago, during the turbulent years of political rivalry between Edward Saga and Michael Manley, in Jamaica, there was a very violent election and at the end it was dubbed: ”elections that people lose”. Sometimes, the only victors are the politicians and their lackeys. The victory of the Democratic Labour Party is a victory for Prime Minister Freundel Stuart. The jury will be out for sometime as to whether it was a victory for the people.

This election clearly demonstrated that the fed-up level, with both the Barbados Labour Party and the Democratic Labour party is rising; the electorate, caught between a rock and a hard place, decided that the money offered “to be put back in their pockets’ by the Barbados Labour Party, was not enough to convince them that they should bring the Bees back into office. They worried about the transport being privatized and pensioners having to pay bus fares; they worried about the Sanitation Services being privatized and having to pay for garbage removal. A people under the heavy yoke of a recession, that is not going away, are very circumspect. So, Stuart went out there and reminded them about schools that the Democratic Labour Party built and told the voters that while money in their pockets is good, their character and understanding the value of a vote is more important. A less colourful but more effective message in the end.

On the other hand Owen Arthur did his best to convince the voters that he could revitalize the economy. Unfortunately for Arthur, he depended on a non-candidate, economist Clyde Mascoll, to be his real messenger. I have posited many times that Mascoll, his scholarship notwithstanding, is a political liability and that his credibility as a politician is a real issue. Having Mascoll headline platforms was a political blunder of monumental promotions, taking into consideration that Mia Mottley seemed to have been pushed aside. In all fairness to Arthur he tried but he was also leading very new candidates some of whom were selected during Mottley’s tenure as opposition leader.

In the final analysis, when stripped of all the talk about Wickham’s polls and the CLICO debacle, this election was basically free of any serious discourse. The failure of Arthur and Stuart to have a public debate was a grave and deliberate insult to the electorate. That showed that they were not taking the populace very seriously. We were subjected to some of the vilest and most embarrassing nonsense ever heard on political platforms from both parties. We learnt that the thirty candidates had not grasped anything about the new world economic order brought on by the crippling recession. We were treated to nothing more than entertainment. The parties, rather than seriously engage each other, opted for presentation and no content.

It was not a violent campaign and many will honestly conclude that the close margin was a victory for the people. I respectfully submit that thinking citizens are still waiting on a real debate about how to carry Barbados forward. The only thing that the close outcome proved is that the BLP/DLP is very close in every respect. I was told by one of our most influential politicians that the House of assembly is a “club”. And that is why I contend that we have a sophisticated one party state. Why not use this numerical closeness to form a government of national reconstruction?

However, unlike the election mentioned at the beginning, there were no acts of violence and while the wearing of yellow and red is starting to bother some; I opine that if we cannot put on a tee shirt of our party’s choice, we are really in a bad place. Quite frankly I prefer the tee shirts to the violence on my ears emanating from mouths quite unfamiliar with public speaking and equally unfamiliar with the real issues. From that point a view it was indeed an election that people lose.

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  2. @Yardbroom

    Agree with your point about the contrasting Manifestos which BU observed in our analysis. The BLP Manifesto scared many Barbadians. Does it mean our people are maturing?

    On Mascoll the fact that he crossed over so soon after holding the opposition position still does not rest easy with many.

    @Observing(…)

    There is talk that Mia people canvassed for DLP candidates on the ground. Perhaps we will hear more of it in the days to come.


  3. I totally would not accept Tennyson Joseph to blatantly say on VOB Brass Tacks today that Barbadians are politically immature.

    Everyone can come here and insult our intelligence because their objectives are not met.
    I will from today switch my radio to 94.7 from 92.9 something I never did.
    VOB continues to invite antigovernment people who are bias in their comments.
    George Belle and Tennyson Joseph. Are they no neutral political commentators in Barbados.


  4. Hear Peter Wickham accusing Mathew Farley of creating mischief when probed on the short comings of his bold predictions.Perhaps most would have been less inclined to question Peter’s credibility,were it not for his love of mischief especially in relation to the PM….Why do we need to hear from the same panelists everytime.Is this just another way of shaping public opinion?Or these are the only people with any smarts in the country.


  5. @Clone

    Remember the same Joseph and Norman Girvan had some very uncomplimentary things to say about the late David Thompson and his sloth conducting the affairs when chairman of Caricom. Five years later nothing has happen but have you heard from them? Toss in Rickey Sigh as well.


  6. If you were listening to brasstacks today you know why I refer to Malcomb Gibbs-Tait as a Pond Dog.


  7. Hamilton Hill wrote “Or these are the only people with any smarts in the country.”

    A lot of Bajans in public life have an exaggerated sense of their intelligence and importance. nuff said.


  8. @ Hants

    You are right. We give too much undeserved credit to academics and lawyers.


  9. @ David
    Quote: “Agreed with your point about the contrasting Manifestos which Bu observed in our analysis The BLP manifesto scared many Barbadians. Does it mean our people are maturing?
    – – – – –
    The BLP’s Manifesto was a penultimate large throw of the dice. It was supposed to be one of their knock-out punches but the electorate saw it as an act of sesperation.

    One aspect with regard to maturity was the alleged buying of votes. It must be nipped in the bud as it could cause very serious unrest. In that people would always think that politicians are thieves as their Parliamentary salaries cannot support such largesse, they must then be corrupt or are being corrupted by others. This would first be in certain areas where people are less well off and are easy prey but violence once started is not easy to contain.

    Some in the media who speak of the Barbados electorate being political immature often use those words to justify a position, they being always right. . it smacks of intellectual arrogance.


  10. “Desperation”


  11. The buying of votes should be made a criminal offence, subject to imprisonment on conviction. The candidate that would benefit should also be banned from holding public office for a minimum of five years.
    It is no good talking about it and doing nothing.
    By the way, why are we not hearing the voice of ethnically diverse Barbados? Do they have a view, or do they just pump money in to general elections?


  12. Like most things in life it’s all about the timing. Thompson pulled the rug from under Mascoll and he left the DLP in a tiff to accept scraps from Arthur in the form of a “junior’ Ministry. Arthur staged a coup against Mia and she has stayed and remained a power within the BLP where she is poised to take over the Leadership.

    If Mascoll had remained in the DLP he may be PM today, if not PM, Minister of Finance or some senior cabinet position.

    Timing is everything.

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    Likely Cabinet please…

    F. Stuart, PM
    R. Sealy, DPM
    A. Brathwaite, AG
    Dr. Estwick, MoF


  14. The buying of votes only demonstrates the low quality of those currently in political life. It is the very height of idiocy to pay money to a Bajan for a vote…
    ..shite man, one cannot even get Bajans to do an honest days work for an honest day’s pay (at a rate higher than most other jurisdictions) but yet these idiot political strategist come with this nonsense every election.

    it is years now that Bajans have been eating the idiots out, taking their money and bribes ….and then voting EXACTLY how they had intended in any case.

    This is the clearest indication yet of the shallow intellectual profile of our leadership pool.

    The other angle is with the police.

    SURELY this is a crime.
    It must be the EASIEST crime to detect…. a political hack APPROACHING citizens with offers of bribes in exchange for votes….
    How many cases have we seen prosecuted?

    ….this thing has been documented since the corn beef and biscuits days. Oh Well!…with the same idiot already reappointed to the post of AG, Bushie’s guess is that we are stuck with the same morons in charge of the police and army…..

    …and wunna people looking for improvements….?


  15. @ Bushie

    I am the product of a rum shop and can remember people like George Ferguson coming in and buying lots of corned beef and sardines and rum for anyone who wanted to eat and drink.
    Even then, as a little boy, I thought there was something corrupt about the system.
    A lifetime after, and 46 years after independence, the same thing is going on.
    i


  16. Mr.Wickham tells the opposition that it needs to address its leadership issues.Wait peter ma boy,you jest work out dat?or it did’nt prudent to talk dat before elections?If hypocrisy could be transformed into fossil fluid Barbados’s problems could be ended tomorrow.


  17. @Hamilton

    You have to be fair to Wickham, he has been singing the praises of Mia over Arthur for a long time now.


  18. @ardbroom
    Well put and agreed on all counts. The “politically immature” comment is an insult to Barbadians. The vote buying is a potential social bomb waiting to explode.

    Just Observing


  19. @ David..I am being fair.All that I am asking is when in the months leading up to the election did he express this concern?


  20. “………The failure of Arthur and Stuart to have a public debate was a grave and deliberate insult to the electorate………”

    Owen didnt want no debate. Nuff said.


  21. Mathew Farley’s voice pisses my off. I think that there is a catagory for the likes of him and Rosemary Alleyne … can’ put my finger on it, but one is sure, they are both not designed for public consumption. Maybe when one is constipated from one end one is forced to seek an alternative channel of releasing … but the condition in both cases seems chronic …!


  22. Kevin
    “Owen didnt want no debate. Nuff said.” No not enough was said. I personally cared nothing of Owen’s debating skills, he was a virtual no show in Parliament. What would have been the expose was Stuart’s ability to handle the one on one environment … that is where the insult came


  23. the frustration level at which david BU is performing have reached an all time high and has affected his ability to stay unbaised , nothing wrong with him having an opinion favouring one side or other .However there seems to be on slaught of negativism heaped on the DLP contributors by David BU since the election in his terminolgy he calls “gloating:
    i can only summarise this as 1.his part in predicting a poll on BU which was not flawed but the result was the same as WICKHAM since he genuinely believe in the wickham method of polling but was not able to see the intent of poll. Sometimes we make mistakes which we regret and in this instance it would be one of such for BU David.


  24. I am s saddened to hear the name of the opposition leader associated in the supply of funds to young men in silversands and particularly in sinckler’s constituency. Why would he stoop so low that his name can be assocaited with votes for money.. Is this the ype of person that ruled Barbados for fourteen years? Would he stop at noting to secure power? Is this the type of behaviour that he exhibited while he once ruled Barbados as if it was hi fiefdon.. Mia is not squeaky clean either, as her name was assocaited with vote buying. I have no reason to doubt what was told to me. My sister witnessed it first hand in one instance, and some of my friends who I can trust and who were very disturbed as this nasty bhaviour conimed what i had heard. Some policeman saw what was heppening.

    No wonder how the youth get so. When I can hear that the drug lords were involved in the distribution of funds and drugs for votes in the Deeacon area where the machinery of the blp was evident. And guess what? We are heading in the direction of Jamaica, lord have mercy on us..


  25. @ George Brathwaite
    Wait a minute George….. You trying to mash up Bushie’s reputation? You trying to prove the Bushman WRONG?

    The common denominator among UWI academics is their thin skins and limited small-island intellect. When challenged, they generally run off with their tails between their legs – unlike REAL ACADEMICS who are willing to stand their ground and argue their positions with the logic and facts that would have framed the position in the first place.

    Your ‘correct’ response to the bushman’s recent attack therefore was to pretend that you did not see the post….or just run away from BU – like Wickham and Robinson.

    …..instead you sound like a man ready for a fight and ready to pelt some licks in Bushie’s backside….. 🙂 LOL.. like the new fake Frundy.

    BTW, what do you mean by ‘Now that elections are over, we should look at national development”? should that not have been the focus of the debate BEFORE elections? or were you looking at Party development then…?

  26. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Nobody was vilified more than me on this blog for supporting the Democratic Labour Party.

    I warned all and sundry that it was dangerous to count your chickens before they were hatched.

    Quite a lot of people especially the Blog owner were salivating at the prospect of a DLP defeat. However out in the field the views of the electorate were different from the haters. In going house to house we were able to put our fingers firmly on the pulse of the people. The results which we got back showed us that we would loose some seats but not the government. The vicious onslaught from the Media(notableexception, TheBarbados Advocate) and the blogs(notableexception,AC,i,Sargent) also convince us that we could not depend on them for any kind of assistance, they were bought, lock, stock, and barrel by the Barbados Labour Party. The decision was taken to rally all DLP supporters as we are aware that they are more DLP supporters than BLP supporters. The only way that there would be a BLP victory was if the DLP supporters either stayed away from the polls or voted in worrying numbers for the BLP. We could not allow that to happen. Hence each constituency started to mobalise the DLP troops from a point in 2012. Then they were the meetings held in the school halls which proved to be a resounding sucess, energising our people no end. Everyone was reminded what it ment to be a Democratic Labour Party memeber or supporter. The stratagy worked masterfully! All of us were made battle ready. The independent voter who gave us the vote would be icing on the cake. By the time stupid Wickham came out with his jaundised polls we were able to make mock sport of them, because we knew different. As the old Bajans always say give a man enough rope and he will hang himself and that is what happen to Stupid Wickham.

    Thats all for now

    I might fill you in with more details as we go along.

    THE RACE IS NOT FOR THE SWIFT, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ENDURE.
    WE DEMS HAVE A LOT OF ENDURANCE!!

    DEMS NOW, DEMS AGAIN.


  27. @AC

    I have witnessed his intolerance as well, but he might still be suffering from shock as he wanted his prediction to be true, but he must recognized that there are inteligent peopl in Barbados who have discerning mind, and did not fall for the crp that was promoted by the non DLP bloggers, but I am sure that u and I would forgive them, as they were not blessed with the skills to analyse the situation from an international prespective.

    @Pompasetting Pearlie where you is?LOL. Wait I missed onions, prodical, miller, dimani that young upstart who I know personally, i tell he father tell he not to use he real name.

  28. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “I have just read the newspapers, read my twitters account, my Facebook…. and still no indication of who is Leader of the Opposition. Now this is an opposition who was anxious about Estimates since before January, they went on and on about a ‘constitutional crisis’ if the General Elections were not called by mid-January.

    Ok, they got their elections, they lost. The Constitution of Barbados calls for a Leader of the Opposition; this is our 3rd day without one. Meanwhile the PM and the Att Gen have been sworn in. Where has the BLP’s concern for constitutionality evaporated to?

    Why do you think there is no opposition leader yet? And who do you think should be picked?”

    Raquel Gilkes
    (from Facebook)


  29. @Baffy

    BU will wait until the PM announces his Cabinet to be fair regarding the critique of the CIB.

    @Bush Tea

    Where did that last comment come from…lol.

    @the commenter who has asked that BU predicts the Cabinet, our days of predicting are over especially if the enigmatic Stuart is involved 🙂


  30. David

    If the Hon Lime Lite becomes Min of Cult again I gun blow my top ‘bou hey …!

    Stuart might overlook the obvious choice for Min of Fin (Estwick) and appoint himself … after all he has Won the Confidence of the People … 🙂


  31. @Baffy

    Here is a comment from Richard Drayton you may enjoy:

    Richard Drayton

    Barbados elections yesterday — the party which committed itself to maintaining public control of water, broadcasting, sanitation and transport, and a large public work force, defeated the party which promised privatisation, neo-liberal ‘reform’ and making workers into shareholders (those of course, who did not lose their jobs in the process of ‘reform’). Close thing though- 16 seats to 14 (which may go up after recount to 17-13), but with many seats won by 100 votes or so. I hope the Democratic Labour Party now starts to govern with the kind of energy which it showed in campaigning, and tries to address the national crisis and reach out to citizens as a whole. Freundel Stuart, the PM, for two years prior to the election refused to say anything of substance about policy questions, and even in the election there was scarcely any strategic vision shared. Tell Stuart: you now have your own mandate, and it is time to lead.But you have to love how well Barbados functions. Where else in the world would the motorcades of two opposing political parties collide at a crossroads and begin to dance with each other as if it is carnival? No stones or bottles thrown, no Jamaican gunshots, just a little friendly pelvic thrusting.
     



  32. Attempting to buy votes has always been a part of electioneering.

    When politicians and their canvassers were buying rum,corned beef and biscuits in a rum shop….That was Attempted vote buying.

    When a politician give appliances to people who asked…..That is Attempted vote buying.

    When Politicians and or their associates hand cash to the yutes who asked….That is Attempted vote buying.

    And if anyone thinks that people in Barbados are voting based on any of the above and that it affects the outcome of elections they are really stupid.

    The typical Bajan take the money, “eat them out” and vote however they intended.


  33. We need our legal eagles to answer this? come in.

    Is it illegal for a Politician to say to a potential voter.

    “I will give you this $200 if you vote for me.”

    is it illegal for a person to say to a politician “I will vote for you but I need a Stove.” and the politician buys that person a stove.


  34. Hants

    The law specifically makes mention of the items corn beef and biscuits as the set limit of acceptable practice…. Uh hmm

    David

    Richard Drayton obviously understands that there is no real difference between the two Parties … or does he …? At he understands the meaning of the word “Party” in the true sense, since the people in the motorcades did …! 🙂


  35. @ ac, yarbroom, ttp
    The “politically immature” comment is an insult to Barbadians.
    ———————————————————————-
    Isnt Tennyson Joseph from one of the low islands the leaders of which Barrow described as bandits. These are islands where scandals like Prime Ministers living with underage girls and being accused of rape are common. Not only that the same Prime Ministers are returned to office time after time to repeat their despicable misdeeds. Does Tennyson Joseph describe his banana and mango backwater island as having a politically immature populace? Ignorant Joseph also predicted a loss for the DLP. Tennyson Joeseph better haul he %@#&&*&#.

    David BU is cruel vex and intolerant to posters like me because in Wickham like fashion he haughtlily predicted a 22 to 8 loss for the DLP now he wants to ban me becuase I said Fruendel won against all odds. He is also up in arms because I said Suckoo was beaten by a no name candidate. Fact is like most Barbadians I never heard of the guy until it was announced he was running against Suckoo. I dont live in St. George South neither does the majority of Bajans.

    Fruendel and the DLP made me super proud to be a Bajan on Thursday


  36. @Carson

    so u aint even remeber that i am a dlp blogger and was cussed by milller,onions,scott, miller the nuke, just asking and maligned by others. Any how i forgive u.


  37. @fearless

    Again by your last comment you demonstrate that you are liar. You were warned because of your use of multiple monikers.


  38. Is not paying companies and individuals by government contracts and jobs for helping get voters to vote for the party the same as buying votes? Why only look at the so call Block people? One is instant the other is later payment. it is amazing how we look at things….


  39. If the BLP supporters trust Mr. Arthur as a politician, then they should realize that maybe Arthur has his reasons for refusing to endorse Mia Mottley for BLP leadership. Arthur worked with this woman for 14 years and while she is a good talker and orator, Arthur probably has seen a personality that would not be in the best interest of Barbados if given too much power. That really is the only conclusion one could draw as to why he has gone out of his way to shun her since Jan 2008.He probably knows some things about her that many of us do not.


  40. @!

    Nice strategy how the DLP has started at this stage to push the anti-MAM talk, very nice indeed.


  41. David
    There must be something wrong that Owen Arthur at this late hour would not nominate Mia Mottley for Opposition leader if he is stepping down.
    Only last week he said that she is an intelligent woman and he has work for her to do.
    Was he as usual telling lies?
    You mean they would have won with this dramatized false unity.
    Mia Mottley like she also is a sucker for punishment to become Barbados first female Prime Minister


  42. @David
    Never been anti Mia- in fact she has at times been helpful. She helped the DLP to defeat the “co-leader” Mascoll in the 2008 election with her work on the ground.However, the money game could not save the lousy Arthur Holder in 2013. But Mia has shown that she is willing to try to take out members of her own party if they are perceived as potential rivals.
    When she was removed as opposition leader she said that we all need to work together more often (you remember the speeches). In such a close parliament, she will have all the opportunity to display the sincerity of the bipartsan speeches by actions taken.
    The loudest voice of objection to Mia Mottley over the last 5 years has been the member from St. Peter, Owen Arthur who has never really tried to hide his dislike of Mottley to those around him.


  43. @david 4:18
    The next election campaign begins! Lol

    @roverP and Hants
    Since we’ve dissected and reassembled the “patronage for assumed vote” argument, should we come to a conclusion that all “sin” is wrong? Or a better question may be, where and how do we draw the line?

    Just Observing


  44. On a lighter note, anyone know the whereabouts of OOB? Is he in hiding? Tell him don’t be afraid to show his face in public we are all Bajans even if we support different Politicians. OOB you might as well come out and face AC music.


  45. The best poster for the election period was the one with the photo of Arthur on one side,Mottley on the other, and the words of Bob Marley at the bottom” MAN TO MAN IS so unjust.”


  46. HA HA HA


  47. No one party can boost of victory in this elections, Yes, the DLP has a two seat majority,the it would be intersted to know with all the votes totalled, which party gained the most vote overall. Rhis was a good elections for either party to lose, since whichever party wins MUST settle the Clico, issue, plus find the money to pay Al Barrack. he cannot be held back a future five years or the money will be around $ 100 million. Also, civil servants MUST get a raise-of-pay during thenext term in office.For the NEW government, it means not just


  48. The tendency among the political cognoscenti has been to blame Arthur for toppling Mia, but that is not quite accurate. The Parliamentary group approached Arthur and asked him to take on the task for the sake of the Party as they were dissatisfied with certain aspects of her leadership.

    This is no political spin, that is fact from the horse’s mouth or as close to the front end of the horse as one can get.


  49. Well Owen Arthur’s 2013 slogan was “let the BLP put money in your pockets”

    Well lo and behold on page 26A of the Sunday Sun of 24 February,2013, Cynthia Forde is clearly demonstrating that she was not entertaining Owen’s message. Owen lost the election but Cynthia made sure she had her money in her pocket to shop at the same store Owen criticised !

    The FRACTURE in the BLP……..continues !!


  50. cont:
    wait for the global recession at abait, but must find ways to offset the recession.Failing to do this would see some disquiet withing the civil service, plus vast layoffs in the privare sector. All this mrans both parties matured enough to come together wih ideas to kickstart this econmy or we are in for some VERY HARD times. This is where the maturity of our 46 years of independence must be shown.

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