I don.t. even know why i even engaging with you BLP yard flows in this matter. Man wunna leader character leaks like a siev and at this ninth hour wunna all up in STJOHN cemetry trying to raise the dead. Ignurunt pack PITY wunna.

Hi Watching and Waiting,
There is some merit in what you say but I will not NOW go into the lane of what should or should not have been, the votes have not been counted. . . that is for tomorrow night.

I believe that Freundel Stuart was the DLP’s greatest asset, I can almost hear a chuckle from some. He is not from the mould which others have sprung, those who have got us in the situation we are in. There will never be fundamental change in Barbados because the planks are in place for some to walk as we have always walked, because those with money want it so.

In five years there will be a different set but the same game will be played. We complain in the interval between the five years as is evident on BU ( Barbados Underground) and other places.

We are educated but we see only the superficial about the price of chicken in the shops. . . . the bigger picture always eludes us. Slowly Barbados is being changed and the majority are not part of the haves group.

@Miller

Please note your buddy TT signed off on the cheque. Is he still Chairman of the EGFL?

@Yardbroom

If stuart had shown the same energy post-E11 for all of his stewardship who would be on a solid footing. He allowed the perception of being slow to react to tag him and we know what they say about perception. Note that it is his perceived personality which is the more important politically. It MUST be managed if you want to win elections.

@David
“there is the political dimension which HAS to be managed. It is too late now.”

Talk ya talk David.

@alvin
“the CLICO issue is not a Government issue”

Seriously?

Just Observing

Owen Arthur alike David Thompson took CLICO money. Owen just took a lot less than David Thompson. Owen alike David Thompson stepped down in CLICO mud.

Speaking at a political meeting at the corner of Deacons Road, Owen Arthur said “the island had been humiliated by the recent S&P downgrade.” We have been reduced to junk status and someone has to be held responsible for it. He Arthur said also that the S&P downgrade report must be taken seriously, but what about Violet Beckles? That old woman has been humiliated by massive land theft and fraud perpetrated by corrupt lawyers and high authorities in Barbados. This must be taken seriously. This must be taken seriously. Someone has to be held accountable.

Both political parties are tainted with mess. The BLP mess mountains though are more immense and embarrassing. This is not debateable. Owen Arthur and the BLP gave birth to AL Barrack. Three (3) S&P downgrades, massive land theft, those deaths at Arch Cot, Britton Hill, etc. all occurred during the BLP government with Arthur at the helm. Wait! Here is more, more BLP embarrassment: the $75,000 campaign cheque and that damn Nigerian Water heater project and The VECO Corporation, can’t omit The VECO Corporation. Really, VECO is the height of delight. Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and Dale Marshall awarded VECO a government contract without tender. VECO built the prison at Dodds in St. Philip but had no record of building prisons and the prison project, low and behold extended millions over budget. They (Arthur, Mottley and Marshall) maybe now are slapping each other in the face like the goofy Three Stooges.

All of the above stated does not endorse and or bless the DLP. Thompson of the DLP was not honest but certainly wasn’t fearful. Thompson unlike Stuart did not fear the Violet Beckles case. Violet Beckles must be taken seriously. All those involved and must be accountable: Sir Richard L. Cheltenham, QC , Samantha Cummings, Mark Cummings, Mia Mottley, etc; these people must be persecuted and convicted.

http://news.yahoo.com/jesse-jackson-jr-wife-plead-guilty-fraud-014931236.html

Congressman, Jessie Jackson Jr. and wife in the United States is currently being persecuted and convicted on charges of fraud. Barbados is too far behind, must somehow catch up. Owen Arthur in Barbados is not only a free man but racing for a fifth term as prime minister. LOL He, Arthur and the BLP train wrecked Barbados and accountable for massive land theft. Violet Beckles inherted vast amounts of land from Beatrice Henry; all was taken WITHOUT COMPENSATION of any kind.

Barbados at moment is chiaotic. It’s just a mess. The S&P and Moody’s says so. There are lots of theft there. The United Nations says so. There is additionally increased crime that has fallen upon tourist and civilian barbadians. Terry Schwarzfeld and Colin Peter were tourist, just tourist but murdered there [Barbados]. Dr. James Bridges and wife Oldga were tourist, just tourist but were stabbed there [Barbados]. Diane Davies and Rachel Turner were tourist, just tourist but were brutally raped there [Barbados].

No government is perfect and no country utopia, but damn Barbados is off the hook and a piece of work. Barbados offers tourists and its own civilians more disadvantages than advantages. There is no such thing as eminent domain. Barbados lawyers and government took from Violet Beckles a huge amount of land that she owned but WITHOUT COMPENSATION. They did this because they could. It’s a wonderful life in Barbados. Corrupt lawyers and politicians are not persecuted or convicted. Barbados at moment is chiaotic. It’s just a mess. Prime Minister Stuart made public sixteen points why David Thompson should not be prime Minister. Clyde Mascoll’s reply to Owen Arthur’s 2004 budget was also made public.

“Mr Speaker, as I sat yesterday listening to the Right Honourable Member for St Peter, once again I became convinced that the Right Honourable Prime Minister does not have any clue as to where he wants to take this country Barbados. The Right Honourable Prime Minister has no clear vision of the kind of Barbados that he wants to leave when he exists the political stage . . . . The Right Honourable Member for St Peter does not speak from a deeply-held philosophical position. His positions and policies reek of political opportunism and pragmatism. His blunderings and meanderings have been masked by excellent public relations machinery.

“Mr Speaker, in addition to that magnitude of borrowed funds, this Minister, the Right Honourable Prime Minister, had an additional $900 million more in taxes in one fiscal year, than the last Democratic Labour Party Finance Minister.

Mr Speaker, that would have given the Minister, the Right Honourable Prime Minister, $3.5 billion more at his disposal, than the Democratic Labour Party would have had in 1994. Sir, the national debt is not just an amorphous figure that we conjure up. It is money that our children and grandchildren would have to repay . . . .

“Mr Speaker, the thing about it is that this Prime Minister is a catastrophic failure, when you look at the fact he had more resources than any other Prime Minister in the history of Barbados. The Prime Minister has, in fact, not made good use of the resources available to him and when you look at the social state in Barbados, the decline in the ability to get housing, the decline in the health care delivery, the educational system, the transportation system, you have only to conclude that this Government has wasted the resources of this administration.”

@ David
I am of the opinion we should judge issues by EVIDENCE. Prime Minister Stuart is the leader of the DLP only him speaks in the position as leader of the party.

Firstly, the West Terrace speech, Prime minister Stuart was not mentioned and there was no inference that he would or should have known at the time of what is allealleged to have taken place. There is sound reasoning for taking that view. Some who were mentioned subsequently said certain matters were unknown to them. If they did not know, it is reasonable to suppose that Prime Minister Stuart also did not know.

As I have said before Prime Minister Stuart said that the first time he entered Prime Minister Thompson’s Office was when he became Prime Minister. . . he was not a part of any inner circle.

We then come to association, are we to say that a person whom he knows in other areas should not continue to be his friend and supported as such even if he has no EVIDENCE that that person is engaged in or has engaged in ALLEGED wrong-doing.

You know I have said repeatedly here that his INTEGRITY sets him apart, even after this disclosure it is still UNBLEMISHED.

@Hamilton

The Clico ‘bomb’ just serves to confirm what many Barbadians perceive about the DLP Parris Clico Thompson love connection.

@Yardbroom

Surely you are aware that in this scenario Stuart’s name does not have to be mentioned. Note that his picture appears in the BLP ad posted by David (not BU) and by association in imagery and by his past actions and words he is perceived to be in the thick of it. Remember, it is all about perception.

@David | February 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM |

“Miller: Please note your buddy TT signed off on the cheque. Is he still Chairman of the EGFL?”

TT is a big up in the DLP. He has real dirt on both top DLP & BLP politicians who benefited from the CLICO Ponzi scheme.
He is also the unofficial trustee of the ‘Families First’ Account. Don’t be surprised if he is not the personal “black” accountant to many of the DLP political hierarchy and certainly of Mara Thompson and Leroy Parris.

Do you see now how politically well-heeled and protected TT is? A man of many personal financial tentacles spread throughout the political underground and who is still able to continue to leech the CLICO policyholders by sucking out and distributing the creamy premiums continuously flowing from the breasts of these foolish financial virgins expecting a political knight in shining financial armour to come along and take them out of their greedy financial misery.
We shall see what future TT has should the BLP take control of this dying CLICO cash cow ready to receive a last bullet to the head.

BTW, unlike Freundel, the miller will not be so disingenuously duplicitous as to stretch out a leprous hand to TT and traitorously refer to him as “a friend” but to be true in heart and character and call him a bold criminal of an underground accountant with whom the miller will never show amity of express association- either professionally or socially- but only enmity in his continued verbal affray with a boldfaced crook and liar of tremendous talent serving the son of the Devil of Money called Duprey instead of Pacioli.

The whole of BDS knows that Parris and Thompson shared ownership and occupancy of a house in Martin’s Bay right? Regardless of whatever else they shared, it would not be a stretch to say they were as close as family. Why would any Bajan expect justice to betray that CLICO/DLP friendship?

Nicola, your comment is the reason why this little place is the way it is. Please consider the facts carefully a blind man on a wooden horse trodding backwards can see that some conniving act went down. Truth be told someone must pay to many are suffering.
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Yardbroom, regarding your comment on Fumble and his ‘high horse’ attitude to ignoring the mess around him for fear of becoming soiled, I would remind you of this quote: “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.”

As far as reasonable men are concerned, the greater the power to intervene on the behalf of good, the greater the responsibility to do so.

There are three types of people in this world; those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what the Hell just happened. Fumble will retire from politics tomorrow night still wondering what the Hell he was supposed to do to run this country and will probably go to his grave never realising the opportunities he wasted.

Hi it ac again. wait the BLP think that this so-called time bomd going make barbadians forget all the saquandermania and the corruption by the BLP in one day. Now wuinna really! really! belive that bajns got short memory. by tommorow wunna will find out.

@Old Onion Bag. Liz is a classy pit bull in truth, she mash up a whole community group for a seat she lost. Now that is class.

BUT LOOKA HOW DEZ SOON DEAD SICK DEMS (by tommorow)….FIGHTING HARD to STRAIGHTEN DIZ CLICO MESS…..WID ALL KINDA HALF BAKED REASONING…GENTLEMEN nLADIES…AT THIS STAGE ITS ALL OVA…..DEMS DUN DEAD…….LIZ KILL OF PORNVILLE and OWEN BOMB …..DROPPED AND DUN UM….LOL

Whither the Pegasus video?

I am extremely happy that the Grenada election has gone in the direction that it has.On the assumption that CADRES employs a universal methodology,once and for all the question of Peter Wickham’s integrity will one way or another be put to rest.He called it there so despite his words on brasstacks yesterday,{i mean those little outs i thought i heard}he needs to get it on the nose here in Barbados.

@ Frustrated businessman | February 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM |
“ the greater the power to intervene on the behalf of good, the greater the responsibility to do so.”

Noblesse Oblige!
Or to use a more biblical understanding: “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.”

A moral principle of the higher order which, unfortunately, Freundel does not have the intellectual or spiritual intestinal fortitude to understand far less apply.

Utterances to a public audience known for its superficial understanding of language have been the manifestations of a man clearly unequipped with the niceties or nuances of political diplomacy.

Now how is the man in the street expected to interpret his esoteric outbursts of imagery?
How should ordinary hardworking struggling people- looking for a taste of inspiration and direction from their leader- view uncalled for demeaning derogatory putdown condescending foot-in-the-mouth diseased manifestations such as:-
Awakening a sleeping giant; fighting the beast of Ephesus; better to be a lying, sorry living, dog instead of a dead lion whose tail should not be pulled; sucking on the breast of a government (which is fed from our taxes) until sore; going back to cane fields where there are no canes; relying on drug barons and loan sharks for financial assistance.

Freundel is a misfit in more ways than one and the sooner he rides off into the sunset after basking in his short day in the leadership Sun the better for his own good and the image of this country for being saddled with one of the biggest fools and political liabilities in Christendom Barbados.

Hi Frustrated businessman February 20, 2013 @ 1:46PM
Quote: “Yardbroom, regarding your comment on Fumble [ I surmise you mean Mr. Freundel Stuart the Prime Minister of Barbados] and his “high horse” attitude to ignoring the mess around him for fear of becoming soiled, I would remind you of this quote: “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.”
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Perhaps and I say perhaps, your idea of a “high Horse attitude” is a reluctance onFreundel Stuart’s part to “Play Ball” as you or some expect as has been done in the past. That by some could be seen as ARROGANCE. Who does he think he is? The answer could be he is not like the others who are always expected to be easily bought. . . I can see your frustration.

Hi millertheanunnaki, February 20, 2013 @ 2:04PM
Quote: ” Even if that man is a self confessed- liar without open contriteness he still remains a person of integrity?
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You again return to the issue of the Prime Minister not telling a schoolboy the date of the election. You are flogging a dead horse no one mentions that at the political meetings it is without substance. The parent who tells a young boy Father Christman will bring his Christman present tell a lie of sorts – it is not a capital offence- there are lies and lies. Some deprive the barbados taxpayers of millions of dollars over the years – they never tell lies of course – they have just taken it, however the election is here.

@Tony Hoyos.
Your choice and justaposition of words is interesting. Are you implying that the payment of the 3.3 million dollars is what cause CLICO to become broke? Interesting. How many millions of dollars is Owen Arthur Promising to “fix” fix CLICO :just the Brabadian EFPA instrument holders/ Or is he suggesting that those holding Life Inurance policies will
be be paid out, even if those policies have not yet matured? Can you clarify this seeming incongruity? It’s alright to try to confuse those who would not think and fool the masses who are taken in by music and colours; and some of whom cannot even vote. .

The Miller is flogging lots of dead horses. I honestly can do without the partisans. The only new interesting thing here is that there is an artificial invoice from an attorney who claims to know nothing about it. About this I would like to hear more. I generally agree with Yardbroom about Freundel and Amused always has insightful input. I wish we could have more intelligent debate on these things and less name calling and partisanship.

@Knight of the Long Knives

Do you want to define “flogging a dead horse”? Is it fair for you to cherrypick what you believe is important? The invoice and cheque together makes a case and we should all continue to ask questions until we get the answers that make sense.

@ David I am not speaking about that issue at all. I want answers on that the whole transaction seems very suspicious now that I have learnt about the invoice and the other attorney. I am speaking about the whole “Cammie Tudor/Freundel is secretly gay” trash that everyone keeps ignoring and he keeps bringing into every discussion. I would like to see rigourous anti corruption legislation. I believe most prospective politicians are interested not because of public service but because they can become overnight millionaires and nothing is being done to arrest this situation.

@David:
I’m back. I always do my research. I went back to the Deloitte & Touche report because there was something that I remembered from my previous reading of the report, but was not sure about. On page 11 of the report there is a paragraph under the heading: Restrictions on use. which states:
“This report and any related analyses or other materials produced or provided by Deloitte &Touche LLP have been prepared solely to assist the Judicial Manager and are not intended for circulation or publication to, or use by, any other party. Neither this report nor the information it contains are to be reproduced, in whole or in part, or used for any other purpose without our prior written permission, in each specific instance.”
Did OSA and the BLP get prior written permission to publicly display the contents of the report, as used in the political meeting?
It would be interesting to find out.