Now we got talking weeds pon BU! what next?

@ Simple Simon

You are a very smart woman from a long line of strong clever women. i don,t see the analogy. What Jesus did, if he did it, was right according to Jewish law of the time. I am not religious, but was told that the buying and selling of offerings (sacrifices) were usually done OUTSIDE the temple. These usurers actually did it inside (if you believe what is written in the Bible). Now, how does that compare to what Gail did? Maybe she should have thrown Broomes out the school hall? What makes you think Mary raised Jesus? Where does it say so in the Bible? From what I understand, he was brought up in Soloman,s Temple by the HIGH Priests and was practically a “wild boy”. Did he not go off to India at 12 to study the Buddha?

@ Amused | January 2, 2013 at 3:02 PM |

Your submission says it all.

I think we have a very serious problem on our hands as far as the leadership of State is concerned. We have the classic case of the lucky version of “Peter Principle” at work here. A man accidentally promoted above his level of incompetence and in the process pulled up (by a fudged legal bootstrap) his pal to the same level of not knowing his elbow from his arse. A man more suited to a first year Law class room that in charge of an inert justice system riddled with incompetence and perennial controversy.

If the idiots running the country can fathom the size of the damage done to this country’s image in the UK its main tourism source market they would bow their heads in shame and resign before being fired by the electorate.
Do we still have High Commissioner to the UK? What has been done to control the damage being done to our once admired and respected little country?

All that can be asked for is some divine intervention to put Bim back on the road of sanity. But unfortunately we might have to wait until our admired friend is at her perihelion to her political star in 18 lunar months to fulfil a date with destiny as Father Time takes its toll on her nemesis and erodes the one remaining stumbling block to her place in history.

Caswell, miller or Amused,
Maybe you all can help folks like me who only know a little of the law.

If by law, the House dissolves itself on February 12, who then is in charge of this country? The CJ or the GG??

If this means that there are no longer Members of Parliament, they having served 60 months, does this not mean that there will not be a PM?

How then can this administration stay on until May as their supporters are touting on BU?

I would really like to know! Please!

Black people seemed doomed to remain slaves
It seems that the slaves cannot win against the system
Victimization is a reality and if the slaves seem to be winning on one hand , they are victimized on the other.

Prodigal; May I add one question to your list above, since I know nothing about Law;

If the estimates are laid, fully debated and passed through all its stages this month, well before February 12th when the House is dissolved. Can Government business involving monies go on between that date and the end of May when it appears that Gollop is suggesting that FS can go up to, to have the Elections? also would the estimates take full cognizance of serious emergency and contingency situations that require the full works from a non-existent house

These appear to be uncharted waters so I suspect FS is just having fun with the BLP people calling for elections and will call the elections before feb 12th. But then who knows what will spring from the asymetrically thinking brain of FS?

If he does decide to use the 90 day constitutional allowance I suspect that many others besides the BLP people will read much more into it than a smart lawyer thumbing his nose at the Opposition party and may be quite unhappy giving rise to unwonted consequences (for FS that is).

Who is the current high commissioner to the UK?

@Checkit-Out

It was Tony Arthur last time we heard.

On 2 January 2013 21:52, Barbados Underground

David,
I wondered the same thing when I was listening. Is this the plan to rush it through to achieve FS’ agenda?
If I was advising the Opposition, I would advise them to boycott Parliament and not be a part of Fumble’s “stubborn-ness”.

Why is FS so afraid to call elections? He is like a man a woman no longer wants and how ever much she tells him she’s finished, he wont leave. FS, the people dont want you any more, leave the place!

well said, Checkit-out!

we will call elections within the time allowed. No prodical, miler et al can dictate when they will be called.

From the time thompson passed away, there was this clamour for elctions and a lot of pundits have been diappointed. wait untilt the gentleman call elcetions and then we will have an opportunity to vote,until them keep dreaming and hoping.

man the PM must be laughing at “the voices crying in the wilderness ‘ to call the election. these people must be hell and need to get out in a hurry .LOL!

@ To The Point | January 2, 2013 at 6:56 PM |
The people of Barbados have waited for a year since the Eager Eleven wanted to dump him.
Don’t you think they can wait a few more weeks? The people got the patience of Job knowing full well Mr. so-called Integrity would not breach the Constitution with his cat and mouse charade in the children’s political playground.

There is one thing we know that he WILL NOT BE GOING PASS MARCH.
The Governor’s report for the 2012 Fourth Quarter might be tempered by the BNB sale and other fudged unemployment figures but the 2013 First Quarter results due in April 2013 (if allowed to be made public) would show that poor Cinderella lost both slippers on her way to the Winter Tourist Season ball.

@Clone

You have to admit the PM is being disingenuous when he says the DLP was given a mandate to serve for 5-years so why the rush.A Thompson led DLP was given the mandate. When Thompson died and taking the challenging economic times into consideration Stuart should have called the election to refresh the mandate.

David
I would have called the election after the death Of David Thompson so agree with you. The question is why are these people are saying that he is going to do something illegal when all he said was he is using the full five years given by the people of Barbados in a vote for the DLP in 2008

@ Clone | January 2, 2013 at 7:56 PM |

Why don’t you leave Amused out of this? Deal with the miller and the prodigal son.
You really think Bajans give a damn about Stuart’s silly games while this country heads into a perfect economic storm?
Are you saying that because Credit Union savings are up that everything is fine and dandy in Bim? What about the borrowings? Did members borrow to buy land and build houses and for other commercial ventures? That’s a better indicator of ‘confidence’ in the economy not fear of the future.
If that were the case don’t you think the credit rating agencies would have downgraded Bim? Or do you think that these people ‘have it in’ for Stuart and his administration?

Clone, please say it loud and clear on this blog that the rating agencies and IMF are unfairly criticising this government. Go ahead and play the ‘victim’s role’.

And don’t forget that Father Paul is James Paul brother. Love thy brother as thyself, ya hear. What a political Clone that would be!

Wait Clone, did you not hear the PM’s buddy Hal Gollop today? He is the one that seems to be advising the PM that he could bring estimates in January/February and then run the time out until May. I like miller am prepared to wait, if the gang of 11 could not rout him out, we the electorate can wait. Time longer than twine, David Estwick’s famous words!

All; See Barbados Today’s article below
http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2013/01/02/backlash-3/
It is clear that the transferees are not happy campers and it looks like significant Industrial action could happen by next week.

Observing; the opening act is apparently scheduled to take place tomorrow evening starring Mary Redman.

I understand that there are 3 transferees (reportedly 3 of them) to HC. If this is indeed so I suspect Barbados can look out for further action from that quarter, including from aggrieved parents.

I really can’t understand how FS could have known of the details of these transfers and allowed them to take place. Perhaps he didn’t, which would also speak volumes.

Anyone knows how many of the AX transferees Foundation benefited from?

David; Even though not being one of that group, I expected a certain degree of confusion coming out of the inquiry, etc. and said so on BU early. However, I am nevertheless totally flummoxed by the level of forseeable unforced errors made in the implementation of what should have been a simple and quite reasonable solution of transfers of the principal and some of the teachers.

What was reportedly happening over the past few days was clearly likely to happen given the depth and widespread reach of the transfers throughout so many schools at this time in the School year. These are record breaking deep disruptions that needed not have happened if the process was managed properly. That is why when the news first broke I wondered if this was a strategic plan for embarrasing FS by some people in the MOE or in his own ministry? The methodology of implementation of the transfers was too patently flawed from the first reports and as information comes in it gets worse and worse.

This thing isn’t going to be pretty unless some Obama like brain gets to work fast and use every trick in the book of diplomacy to head the expected actions off. Unfortunately that is not likely.

David; Were you able to access the BT page? I tried just now and it had disappeared. Anyhow, for anyone interested, I had copied it, so the original is below.

BSTU: school dispute not yet resolved
by Roy R. Morris and Donna Sealy
Government’s solution to the Alexandra School’s problems has rekindled the contention and controversy it intended to resolve.
This evening after a meeting with education officials was “terminated”, President of the Barbados Secondary Teachers’ Union, Mary Redman, said she planned to speak out tomorrow about the shifting of 18 Alexandra teachers at the start of the new school term on Monday.
She told Barbados TODAY that the transfer of the teachers from the tension-plagued Speightstown, St. Peter school at this juncture in the academic year was “disruptive”, “horrendous” and showed that “no real thought has gone into these unprecedented transfers”.
“The scale and magnitude of this problem is horrendous and when I have the chance to quantify tonight I will make it known to the public of Barbados tomorrow the extent to which this action will be disruptive to hundreds, if not thousands of students, most especially those fifth form and CAPE (Sixth Form) students,” Redman said.
She also said that she did not foresee the union would have found itself in this position at the start of another year.
“I thought that finally common sense would have prevailed, There was a commission of enquiry held, the recommendations were clear and one would have thought that the actions that had to be taken by the appropriate public officers would have been taken, and taken in the way that … this was not expected because it is not in keeping with anything that would have been sane or rational,” she noted.
The trade union leader was speaking to Barbados TODAY after a meeting with the Acting Permanent Secretary, Sarah Brathwaite, Chief Education Officer Laurie King, Deputy Chief Education Officer (Schools) Karen Best and other officers, was “terminated”.
‘PS objects’
“We [BSTU delegation] attempted to have a meeting with the PS that was scheduled for this evening at 5. She however, objected to the presence of our legal counsel [Hal Gollop], who was there to provide counsel and advice and she has stated she refuses to meet with us under those circumstances.
“Certainly we have the right to avail ourselves of legal counsel and to appear at any meeting with legal counsel. There’s no organisation, institution, department in Barbados that can determine a union’s delegation and therefore we had the legal right to do.
“We have since attempted to deliver a letter explaining that we have no objection, we certainly cannot, to the ministry having a legal representative at the meeting this evening, that we would like to continue the meeting but we are going to continue the meeting with our counsel present and they have the right to do the same. They have not taken our letter,” she stated.
Redman said she was told the “PS was about to start a second meeting and therefore the officer did not take the letter in to [her]“.
Tensions mount
That meeting followed “a very emotional” one that started around 2 p.m. with their Alexandra School members and other teachers at the Hugh Springer Auditorium at Barbados Workers’ Union headquarters.
Among those attending were Amaida Greaves, Leslie Lett, Gail Streat-Jules, Debra Springer-Bryan, all heads of department, who have received letters indicating they were being transferred to other schools.
They were also among the BSTU’s delegation at the 5 p.m. meeting.
Redman had earlier said that meeting was an “information-gathering exercise” and was “to equip ourselves with the kind of data and general information that we will need to have meetings with officials in the Ministry of Education and other places as the need arises, to bring a speedy resolution to this development”.
Tonight, about that meeting she said, the “vast majority” of people who attended were teaching for more than 20 years at their schools. She added that many of them were involved in a number of extra curricular activities from which they are being transferred inclusive of literary and debating societies, art exhibitions, and coaching which would be disrupted as a result.
Barbados TODAY has also learnt that Industrial Arts teacher at Princess Margaret Secondary School Ronald Jordan, who publicly on Friday complained bitterly about being shifted to Alexandra as he was not part of the “Alexandra problem” and called for action to be taken against the top officials in the Ministry of Education, was summoned to a meeting at the ministry with Chief Education Officer Laurie King.
He attended the meeting alone.
Members of BAPPSS’ Executive Committee, headed by President Vere Parris, also met with ministry officials this morning at their Constitution Road offices.
And it was after 11 a.m. today that Principal Jeff Broomes, wearing a blue polo shirt and a pair of blue jeans, went to the Ministry of Education to collect his letter of transfer but left after about 30 minutes without it.
He returned later, accompanied by General Secretary of the National Union of Public Workers, Dennis Clarke, about 1:15 p.m.
Barbados TODAY understands that he met briefly with Brathwaite, King and Best.
Clarke later told Barbados TODAY that now that Broomes had received the letter, he would comment later.
“We now have to sit down and analyse it and take it from there. We will then pass it to the lawyers …,” he said.
President of the Barbados Union of Teachers Pedro Shepherd, Vice-President Richmark Cave, General Secretary Herbert Gittens and Stewards’ Secretary Andrea Puckering, were the union’s delegation who met with ministry officials about 6 p.m.
Thirty minutes later, they emerged and Shepherd told this newspaper that “we discussed the transfers to and from Alexandra School”.
“We represented the interest of the BUT members who would have written to [us] asking for representation and we were satisfied our concerns will be addressed. We will simply await the outcome of any further discussion between the BUT and the Ministry of Education,” Shepherd said.
He added they were representing a number of teachers in the transfers and noted that seven members had written to them.
Meanwhile, Queen’s Counsel Vernon Smith, noted they were even more satisfied, given their continued research, that Broomes had an exceptionally strong case, but reiterated his earlier position to Barbados TODAY that they would act responsibly, giving the two unions that represent Broomes the opportunity to deal with the “industrial or trade dispute” which has arisen because of the principal’s transfer.
Contact, he said, would be made with the chief personnel officer and the chief education officer seeking urgent meetings, so it can be pointed out to them where they have gone wrong.
“If it is necessary we will seek the assistance of the court in pointing out to them where they have gone wrong,” Smith said. donnasealy@barbadostoday.bb

Well, I think this has been the longest drawn out battle for an election ever. One thing is certain, I think the BLP supporters are tired now so maybe Freundel has a good strategy. Maybe he will call election May 12-13 (90 days after February 12).

One thing the women cant say about Freundel is that he does cum too soon, they may say he takes too long to cum.

@Check it out

Go read the constitution of Barbados, from section 89.

@Ac

Miller, Enuff, scout, prodical, old onions et al aint got constipation, i think they got stricture now. Hey haw, hey haw. Lord have mercy, they aint know that we aint got those old records nuh more,

@Amused

the barbadian people will decide which party will carry the stick dont be too hasty. Didnt the BLP know all along that the cop was like that. Did u remember how he was appointed ahead of bertie, or have u forgotten. Just only asking on this occasion.

@ To the Point
Why do you wish Mr Gollop to ” Keep Quiet ” ? You obviously do not know that Administrative Law is one of his specialties ; he has the reputation throughout the Caribbean as a top Public Lawyer .