Old Onions has raised a critical question about who we are – whether we are authentically ourselves or whether we are, indeed, clones. The Church characterizes individualism as something which promotes selfishness – the Bishop is on record on this – but ignores the teachings of Jesus who enjoins us to lose our ‘clonishness’ to find our true selves and thereby discover all the wonder and potential within ourselves. So yes, isn’t it time we stopped thinking and mouthing other people’s thoughts?

But – is the idea of “levels” of citizenship a way of saying there are good and bad citizens?. Is a conscientous objector a ‘bad’ citizen? And what of someone who cocks a snook at government on BU? Is there such a thing as a ‘good’ and a ‘bad’ Anglican?

@ Hamilton Hill

Thankyou for contributing to the fund of human knowledge and understanding. I wish more people would wake up.

now here is price in canada at Costco and the price at price smart.
the Canadian product is better to start with and these stores pay about half or less than they ell them for.
so who gouging?
Why the Big Price Difference??????????????? – The funniest videos clips are here

Welcome ….to Hater’s corner…..

@ Anybody
Who was that Combermere Master who used to say ” Go get sum goats heads and fish heads …you ass-head…?

Haters…. learn to keep the fly traps closed, engaged the brain before the boca…..LOL

How could she offer any rational insights to Barbados political arena when she cannot differentiate between legal citizenry and a philosophical approach to a citizen per civics?…..crash n burn ..ouch !

Mr. Garcia sadly has found himself with his knickers twisted. He broke our laws… One’s rights in any country is deemed by the law..and challenge by the likes of Peter Ross..( unsuccessful majority times)…..Mr. Garcia is a legal citizen of Cuba , not Bajan as such, and normally, he would be repatriated back to their state, and continue under their laws. But the reality is they do not want him….He is therefore at the mercies of a foreign govt laws, which as Percy Ross would inform, breaks new ground…as a human being.. Citizen Cain…”all men should have equal rights to freedom”…

A modern day good book on citizens rights….Plato’s Dreams Realized..

Soviet sources-Alexander V. Avakov was sentenced to hard labor in a KGB camp. After serving his sentence, he emigrated to the United States with his family in 1981. Avakov soon found himself subject to the shadowy invasion of FBI surveillance, for no apparent reason; was it for the letters he wrote to friends back home? In his book, Avakov examines the evolution of electronic surveillance as well as the extent of modern “total surveillance,” with a consideration of the impact of electronic surveillance on citizen rights, and the philosophical basis for the connection between rights and privacy. “Without privacy, there is no autonomy of person; without autonomy of person, there is no freedom.” Yet the United States government employs several legal mechanisms which hinge on innovative uses of electronic surveillance to evade the safeguards that are the pride of America. Such techniques include the use of friendly countries’ intelligence services and the Echelon program to avoid the ticklish problem of obtaining warrants. With the “war on terror” and new legislation such as the USA Patriot Act, the US government has been expanding the use of searches without warrants (such as wiretaps and other forms of surveillance) to gather information that technically is supposed to be barred from presentation in criminal court as evidence. The resultant weakening of the exclusionary rule and due process in general violate the Constitution and make a mockery of it………..good stuff..

@ David
As a brilliant lawyer yourself (?)… you should know, it is not what we feel….By antecedence to a country’s laws, we must abide by them sometimes even giving up our beliefs of what is right…we can only but protest privately or publicly…. No cut and dry at all …but ‘our new ground’…. a setting of precedence is also very much in play here…as well as an elections upcoming.

@ Old Onions

As I’ve said, I think the springboard for this post – individualism or clonism – is actually one of the most important things I’ve seen raised on BU and I’m grateful to you for that.

But I have to tell you – Garcia is NOT a “legal citizen of Cuba”. If he were there wouldn’t be a problem. Garcia is Cuban born, yes, but his family were deprived of their citizenship when they migrated to the US and stayed there.

No Ross, again you are not in a courthouse but a class in civics…..there lies the crux of Plato’s argument…..How can the state deprive a citizen of what is his by birth? Plato’s questions the right of state…to deprive its citizens whom established ‘the animal’ from his rights by birth , the state was established…to protect ..feed and garner the citizen..not to oust him Ross….do your homework sonny ..

Ross
Go to the back of the class…..while I deal with your insolence…..I will need to draw on my resources…you see as you did…not all is on Google …the novice’s (like you) first choice …but caution when I do find my essays from books of ole …I will beat the black off you dilettante bold…. now tarry a while…you insolent chile.

Up first for the bloggers with a few dollars….Essays offered by Univ.of Notre Dame du lac on behalf of Preview of Politics….while I am physically searching for my essays…you can dabble into..adequately discomposing Ross the dilettante..
snip….
Plato’s “Crito” articulates the problem of political obligation by clarifying the paradoxical relation between Socratic philosophy and citizenship embodied in the relationship between Socrates and Crito. Scholars obscure the dialogue either by taking the arguments Socrates gives to the laws of Athens as his own reasons for obeying the law rather than as agents of Crito’s edification or by severing Socrates from the laws while misunderstanding Crito’s significance to political obligation. Socrates bolsters Crito’s commitment to civic virtue and the rule of law while revealing their parameters and the self-sufficiency of Socratic philosophy by implicitly raising the issue of voluntary injustice. The tension between Socratic philosophy and citizenship shows the need to view Socrates’ defense of citizenship in the light of his defense of philosophy. …..

Not worth my time Ross….I teach and write not research for you….we shall soon see who praters.

@ ross
Seems like “a fart present is a cow endeared…” What ails you lad? Never mind it is good riddance…